This vlog should be part of any college course on economics. No professor could explain the laws of supply and demand more engagingly. Daz, I think you should receive an honorary doctorate for your research contributions to economics and social studies, if not a Nobel Prize!
All you hear from bar owners is that it has been hard times for the last 2 years and bemoaning how tough it has been financially.The prices they charge for a bottle of beer and lady drinks is obscene and all of the gals are hard selling it big time.So a fancy gogo bar want me to pay 120 baht for a beer and 180 for a lady drink and then wants 1500 for a barfine for which the ST rate is now 2000.I guess these bar owners have never heard the saying "you can sheer a sheep many times but skin it only once".They want the tourists back but at the same time they want to hold them upside down and shake money out of them.I just got here to Pattaya and I have been hesitant to partake in this kind of fun as I need to get myself set up for the long term.Once I have done so I doubt I will bother with gogo bars at all given the sky high prices they want to charge.Vote with your wallets guys and send them a message.
These prices sound crazy to me. I wonder how much an oil massage is now? There are many benefits, like no need to drink (big one for me as Im on a keto diet), more time efficient, more fun generally, no annoying mamasans/customers/etc.
What really pisses me off is when you buy a lady’s drink that consists of a few mouthfuls of coca cola which cost the bar owner about 3 Baht, topped up with ice in a small glass and they charge you 150 Baht for it.
Daz you're a real trooper - getting down in the trenches and taking the hits for all your loyal followers😀 Seriously mate great job as always. Good on you and thanks once again!
Daz you're a star, forcing yourself to go into all those bars & having a beer while talking to those girls just to get information just for us, top man.
Iv'e lived in Pattaya since 2003. Things strated really going downhill after the housing crash in 2008. The bars have always wanted the girls to be in the bars and not get barfined especially the gogo bars. Before 2008 I remember this trend around 2006. Before 2008 the 10 day contracts started at Diamond agogo by the owner MR T. The 1st time I saw a barfine for a model/showgirl for 1500 was at Living Dolls Showcase other gogos soon followed. The real superstars were getting 30k back then. Now they all the bars have raised the prices as Daz pointed out. I've used Thai love links twitter etc. A good video. If yu live here its not so bad you have your regulars on call.
Regarding the average looking ladies vs. model quality, I find I would rather have an average looking one who has a really good attitude (friendly, playful, seems to enjoy her job) over a top shelf girl who is just going through the motions.
I frequent Tijuana Mexico. At the Hong Kong club, the girls charge $80.00 for about 40 minutes. The room is $20.00. and you gotta tip out the room attendants about $7.00. Over time I would get a girl's phone number (WhatsApp) and get 2-3 hours for about $120.00. Now when I come down I have a list of gals that I can call because we have a relationship established. Now I only request room service at my hotel. It works great! The only bummer is they periodically ask me to send them money. I have done that in the past but I always made them work it off. Who would ever think you could have credit with a free Lancer. LOL Remember Guys. "YOU PAY THEM TO LEAVE"
This video and the Walking Street one just confirm I'll stick to beer bars, freelancers and Soi 6. Where I can still have a girl for short time 1000 - 1500 and a long time for 2000. These prices are insane. They're the same as here in Europe, which is stupid considering the cost of living. They must realise that customers will stop coming or at the very least stop barfining if they keep these prices. People don't want to pay the same as in their home country AND pay for a plane ticket / travel 11+ hours.
Yeh I've been seeing girls just as hot on Soi 6, massage places and other bars. Had no idea these places were so expensive I ve been here a week and haven't gone into a gogo yet. Will go into one just to have a look but doubt ill barfing. Thanks for the info saved me going in there.
@@genestone4951 Go to Soi 6. Much cheaper and you can usually find at least one superstar at each bar. If not, walk three steps either way to another bar and start over. LOL
Drag yourself through all bars of the soi. I wish I had a job like yours. But it was all for science. You are adding value to your vids with great info. Keep the good work.
These prices are going to put off a lot of punters, me included. There’s plenty of other lesser tourist places in Thailand where similar fun can be had for a fraction of the price
Another great video, Thanks for putting in the effort for all of your fans. Looking forward to my middle of June trip with my two brothers. Your videos are a great resource.
I have been coming to Pattaya since 2002 one thing I learnt very quickly was to only go in a go go bar for a beer quick ogle & off out! Billabong & bars like it is where u will find me call me a cheap Charlie if u want it doesn’t bother me. Massage ladies are also willing to go all the way for between 1,000 - 1,500. You can still find stunning looking girls outside of the go go bars I just don’t get the fascination some guys have with them it’s a quick way to lose at least 5,000 in a very short time, pardon the pun! I’m not a two week millionaire so I get their desperation to get laid & quick good luck to them. Great vlog as ever this is one of the stand out channels 👍👍👍
Thanks for the video .... Sure looks like Pattaya is getting very expensive .... Times are changing & perhaps other destinations will provide better value around Thai .... Maybe time to give Pattaya a miss for a while and explore other locations .
Problem is that Thailand looks like being the place with the least amount of restrictions soon. Philippines may be cheaper somewhat, but must be triple vaxxed to go there, and wear masks everywhere. That won't be changing anytime soon. Maybe Pattaya only good for regular beer bars now, nightclubs and go go s too expensive, priced themselves out of the market. It's either cheaper Philippines, and the BS over the top vaccination requirements and mask wearing, or more expensive Thailand with ( probably soon ) no restrictions.
~Colombia here I come, no BF no LD, no drink queens, The equiv 1100 baht for a ST and no shortage of really much more prettier ladies in their 20s.... For me Pattaya is going down the pan because of rampant farang inflation that is taking place there........It was nice knowing the Pattaya of old but the renewed Pattaya is def not for me and I have been experiencing it since the early 1980s
Excellent vlog and detail confirming what many have experienced re drink queens. They are getting so much now they dont even need to go with customers to earn a good wage. That would also account for the attitude of many. Ultimately it is bad news for Pattaya and the bars and ladies will out price themselves of making a living. Those BF are ridiculous and if you add the LT/ST plus lady drinks on top, it turns out to be an expensive evening for many.
I think a few of these bar owners will be in for a shock if they think the great pattaya gold rush is on the way at 43 baht to £1 record high inflation ridiculous flight prices & insurance fuel out of control . I doubt many will have a few grand to blow in pattaya .
I suspect that Koh Samui will be packed by December with all the b.s. lifted and the outdoor bars will be the best value in terms for beer n honeys. I know a Mama who runs a pub down there from Korat and she texted me about a good line up coming after the rainy season. She's always had a lot of Super stars at her place. I don't know her secret, but there are 9 bars on this one particular side road in Chewng Beach and her bar is always the most fun, best prices, best eye candy, and always the most crowded. 😀
Saw this in Las Vegas last year now things are back to normal. Now last time in Pattaya 2 years ago had multiple issues like this in Treetown and now I avoid the area. Thaifriendly is stll good. And other options are available so use them.
Was a week ago same if not worse the girls will not go home with you Thailand has become a wasted trip more or less well what I come here for anyhow.Never again.
The best and most complete video info I ever seen about very good Daz much appreciate for your work you are the best pathfinder to pleasure information..I wish you the best..
12 drinks and a restaurant visit from me I coming soon I will be glad to meet you will be my honour to have drinks with you if you find time an afternoon in july
as a freq visitor to Patts massage shops and beer bars, my bread and honey gogo's are fine every once in a while, as long as you understand the play as this video well illustrates.
Did sonething really stupid the other nite and barfined a girl from kink. Worst experience ever. A complete rip off from the very start. So over the go gos. Absolute crap, massively overpriced and terrible service.
Sorry to hear this GK from your perspective of poor value for money. It's only happy customers that return to establishments such as the one you mentioned. They are in for a well deserved wake up call once all covid restrictions have been lifted and they find that they don't have the expected customers.
When I first came to Pattaya in 2005/06 I was coming 3 times a year!! Then I married a Thai now we come occasionally,(she’s been living with me in UK since 2007)I stayed In the Nova Lodge I think soi 6??? Right next to the beach round the corner from the Hard Rock Cafe hotel. Now we always just fly upto khon kaen then to Kalasin north east Thailand to my wife’s village, love love the village life!! There’s a place in my wife’s village- Lampao Dam, amazing peaceful place I go walking all around these every morning. Also a dinasaur museum. We coming in October:)
Hey James, I always wanted to go to Issan or Khon Kaen. I know it's more of their country or village side but fo they have any beer bars or go go bars even if it's just a few? If so are the prices more expensive?
@@Thelilantjr I think their are bars in Kalasin but not like Pattaya or bkk, my wife lives in UK with me but her family village is there, such a lovely peaceful place, hardly any foreigners. I walk all around lampao dam every morning, local fishermen, lots to do There’s a dinasaur museum nearby Aswel I added a link, this is the spillway,lampao dam, love it!!! I cycle and walk all around here ua-cam.com/video/LfpgtRPzzLs/v-deo.html
Variable costs of beer and labour are only one element of costs of goods sold with regards to gross profit. It appears that rent and other expenses, unique to this sector, are also on the rise. Greed will kill the golden goose, which might actually have been the plan all along.☹️
I've been on the ground since Saturday morning, Pattaya is tidal waved with available Thai girl, 2 hour ST (my preference) 1000 baht, over night LT 2000 baht. Its an overwhelming Falang buyers market here now, long may it be so.
Great video Daz thanks for sharing.. About right from what I seen and herd as well .. It seems to me that the bar owners and the girls have forgotten why people come to Pattaya. Value for money has gone out the window.
A Wind Mill dancer was sitting beside me when she got payed. She made 50k that month. But had a few deductions so she netted 42k for the month. Lady drinks at 160 are too expensive for me.... Dam.... Back to the beer bars. And maybe the gentleman clubs.
But the go go bar owners are forgetting...the lady drinks and ST/LT normally comes hand in hand....usually those going for ST/LT will spend a couple of LDs so if the owners wanna try to discourage ST/LT, WTF would people spend in their bars in the first place? Theres always bar beers & soi 6 for customers to spend on LDs if really desperately need to drink with a lady...
luv Pattaya, but I might just visit soapy massage when needed and drink quietly alone with background music at a tiny bar when finished. Great vid man!
Don't barfine any of them, and no LDs. Let the businesses go broke and the streets will be full of the choice fruit too. This is sheer greed that cannot be justified by the conditions. Twenty years of over-building. Option Two: Lunch date.
I have heard stories from various guys that the gogos in Lk are padding the check-bins with drinks they hadn't ordered and lady drinks they hadn't agreed to. These guys won't be going back again to be ripped off
I would never pay 3000 b for ST. 1000 B in Soi 6 or at the massage parlour was what I paid per covid. And thats what I will pay next month then I return.
You will find that ST prices on Soi 6 are creeping up too, 1500 plus 500 for the room, especially around "Nightwish" bars and what nightwish do other soi 6 bars soon follow
For a Go go to be of interest to most guys it has to be at least one of these two things A interactive fun B staff of a higher average than bars etc If it’s neither it’s just a waste of time..especially if they are pushy on the LD front
As in soi 6 (soi Nightwish) Nightwish group owns maybe 20 bars there. BF is 1250bt..for a beer bar. Ridiculous.. i still go to Gogos and enjoy my time, buying some ladydrinks. But stop barfine since some years back. I'm not a Cheap Charlie..but I ain't stupid..😉 Thanks for a great video
I have new business degree college graduates coming to work for me. That do not understand nor could explain simple economics as you did as well in this great informative video.
Good info 👍. But i like only normal beer bar action. How much LD, BF, Short time and Long time, normal beer bar.... Soi Buakhao, Soi Pothole, Soi 7...??
There will be price resistance from punters. Asking and getting will be their reality check. Time to give Pattaya a big miss. Priced themselves out of market. Other places will benefit from this crazy pricing.
A great expose on potential costs om this Soi. It seems that although there are few girls and possibly fewer tourists prices vary from Soi to Soi. B1,000 BF would be about right for ST. B1,500 for L. T. (Over night) would also be about right.
Alan Whicker CBE never gave out information like this 👍 I've never been a fan of girlie bars, mainly cos they play shit music. But if you add-up the drinks, the BF, her rates, the noodles, the time and trouble, then it's cheaper/better to visit a good soapy. At least you step back out into the night all squeeky clean. 👍
I don't know about the other customers, but personally if I go to a gogo bar it's to choose and pick up a girl. The drinks are just a way to get to know each other, but if the girls refuse to sleep with the customer, I don't see the point of going to a gogo bar anymore.So no lady drinks;no more money for them. I don't know the percentage of customers who have my approach but it will be as many lost customers.
Thanks for the video. Very interesting on macro/micro economy. How do girls coordinate with each other on prices? I’m thinking they girls don’t have union. How would girls maintain good relationship with bars after supply chain crunch? Why don’t bars stop ST/LT is they don’t want girl to leave the bar? This is their bars, and can change the rule, correct? How would the price trickle up for street ladies? Very intriguing to see how this is going to play out for next a few months.
It seems there are just too many places open. Perhaps some would have been better waiting until the high season to open 🤷♂Maybe there are too many full stop?
Girls being picky! Best of luck to them but works both way. Prices climbing to european prices meaning why go to thailand in the 1st place when similar attractions are availabe for a much shorter and cheaper flight from home. Plenty of women available not all want to work in bars ago gos etc. They have wised up and are making serious money from online apps like thai friendly tinder etc.
Regards meeting bar owner… is it Steve about his Agogo opening soon as he’s mentioned BF minimums? Ps. Your content is great for knowledge on the ground and much more thorough 👍🏽 Great work Daz
Your videos (and corresponding comments) are beyond helpful). One off topic question: Are there any issues with fake beer/booze being served at any of these bars in Pattaya? Worked in China for quite a few years and the amount of fake alcohol there really made me paranoid about everything.
Poor Dazza having to go to 10 Go Go's for our benefit, I'm playing my little violin for you as I watch this. 55555. Just kidding mate as I was 1 of the guys who asked about LK metro prices. Thanks for the info. After seeing this it makes you want to go to these places buy yourself only a drink have a little perv at the skimpy dressed girls say your goodbyes and move on to the next place as a way of giving them and the owners a middle finger. You would be better off finding a very friendly massage place, get your needs satisfied and of a night just look at the eye candy while enjoying a beer or 2?
So you mentioned 3000 ST and 5000 LT for the models and about half for the regulars. What is the percentage of girls working at the bars that are models?
@@everythingPattaya Thanks for the feedback! The last time I was there was at the beginning of the pandemic (Jan-Feb 2020). Prices have sure gone up since then. I remember paying 600-800 barfine at Paradise Agogo and 2000 for ST.
Yes, Pure do a 2 for 1 in happy hour, you just pay full price, but get 2, unfortunately that happened to me with 2 sodas for 135 baht, which of course I couldn't drink.
Looks like I will be spending a lot of time on Soi 6 and in the new Treetown area this July after seeing this. I am not dealing with that nonsense on holiday and getting pissed off. I am looking forward to the new GO GO called Escape that has a system to stop all of this kind of foolishness! See you in July buddy!
Choices have already cost Thailand it's preeminent spot as a tourist destination. Now it seems like they want to lose the one thing that actually made them famous....cheap women. Lol. Onlyfans and paypal mean that the prettiest women don't need to leave their houses. I used to say Pattaya will never die but I can't see it resemling anything like it was pre pandemic.
Went to a bar around Soi Baukhao and to my surprise lady drinks were only 100B each. Not sure if that is normal for them or not. Not a big bar and not many girls but has a pool table and cheap drinks so didn't complain.
If the girls up north hear about all this money that can be made in your town, that could increase the supply of ladies in the bars. It's doubtful they are making nearly so much at their current jobs, if they have one. But then, there must be an adequate supply of customers to support them.
Sad for those who spend thousands and goes home alone after talking for hours with different girls about; what's your name, where you come from?, what name your hotel?, how long your holiday? I am not sure these high prices is good for business, but I guess nothing much to do about it, supply and demand theory. When I am out bar hopping, I do not see too many foreigners and some bars seem to have few customers, so even after Covid-19, it will not be easy to make a profit. It does not seem to scare the bar owners they have been investing a lot.
I honestly believe that bar owners believe times will return to pre Covid levels sooner than later but Pattaya as changed and probably it needed to but world prices are escalating and this will impact on the supply of tourists into Thai and then there is the question of demand at these inflated prices . I believe tourists will become very selective in terms of where they drink and what LD they buy ? ... Interesting times !
@@neils9725 Let us hope tourist come back to pre-pandemic levels. I think they say 20,000 arrivals every day to Thailand. In Pattaya I see a lot of Indian nationals, but they seem to be selective too, going mostly to places run by Indian expats. I plan to go bar hopping LK Metro tomorrow and visit the much talked about 2nd floor of Kink gogo, in this review he recommended 1st floor, so I guess I take a look there too. Tourist must have big budgets, 10,000 Baht a day with hotel, food, and party, while expats can have the same fun for half the price or less.
@@neils9725 I believe the bar owners are very blind. Just look at what is happening around the world right now. Inflation going through the roof, diesel prices off the charts expensive, salaries around 8% lower than last year. Going to be mass unemployment. Sorry but to many problems are happening on almost a daily feed.
@@dantae666 Good idea! Lot of pressure to get the tourist to spend a lot to make up for lost revenues the two last years. The girls have expenses too and often have a boyfriend who want a new motorbike. Some girls have multiple revenue streams in addition to salary and drinks.
You asked to ring the bell at the end of the video, but I have bad experiences with doing that in Thailand, lol. Yes, those girls might earn well, but most of the money usually goes to the family, unfortunately.
Really sorry you had to do this matey .the hard life you lead .makes me really jealous . hopefully I'll be there September suffering as well .thanks for the video .you take care .
I understand the barfine prices are high to cover missed opportunity for more lady drinks but that's a myth, not the way it goes in the real world. If a girl does ST, they normally come back after two hours to the bar and work until closing to collect daily commission. The higher barfine commission is under 200baht for the girl. Barfines are simply another tool for making money from each girl. Bilibong at LK Metro at the corner is a Free Lance Bar without any barfines and cheap drinks. They have 25 girls serving drinks getting a similar commission. They are making money without Barfines. You can sit with the girl for hours. Not watch her gulp a watered down drink and dance for 20 minutes. Meanwhile another lady steps in with her friend asking for more lady drinks. So, use common sense. Frequent the Free lance bars where you can sit and talk. Save a few baht and let the new tourist spend like a drunken sailor . Getting scammed at the gogo bars. In the Philippines "Barfine" includes everything. The bar takes there cut and the girl gets the balance, tips not included. A much simpler way. No need to negotiate ST or LT prices. Often it's LT by default.
LK is very good if you avoid the go go bars. The regular bars still have a lot of pretty girls who are happy to do LT, especially if you are a style of guy they genuinely like. It does not mean they "love" you though, so naive newbie beware. This is their job, even if they may genuinely like you. I m sure LT is more expensive now, used to be 2000, probably 2700 or 2800 now.
Great Vlog but hows this Grab you I know for a Fact some Bars are changing 5K baht for bar fines with another 5 K to bar Owner and they getting it and they charge 160 baht per beer and get it so the Prices I agree are Crazy and the Girls are Swapping bars like it was a Merry go Round Strange Times for Sure
Hi Daz, coming there from Nov-April this year for first visit. Could you give me advice on best area to stay in? Not a big party guy, more of a relax on beach staying in a great resort with amazing amenities type. Looking at Jomtien with the occasional visit into Pattaya city. Recommendations? Appreciated
I dont mean to be annoying but if your not a party animal (which is fine) and prefer relaxing on nice beaches with luxurious hotels etc, why come to Pattaya and not Phuket. Pattaya has one of the worst beeches in Thailand and Jomtien isnt much better. I would seriously consider Phuket or Krabi over Pattaya
The questions is also how long the gogos on WS and LK can keep going while not being busy, how many months left are we talking about. High season 22/23 will be a dealbreaker imo. If it turns out too be bad then i cant see this guys staying in buisness any longer.
Well thank you for your info. It's settled, we're not going to walking St. 160 - 170 LD Are you kidding ?. If they are charging primo prices then the talent needs to be primo too. Want to be careful because you run the risk of ppl just glossing over the places and go elsewhere.
Hi Daz very Informative & seems that we have An Idea now on the GO Go bars & Gents Clubs & as your theme is best Valuve for us poor suckers Can you show Vids on St & LT on freelancers who Dont work in Bars & where is there Favorite places to hang out & rate Quality I think the Bars are Played out & from my Experance worst service from Bar Girls who only want to get back to Bar !!!!!!!!
It's purely about physical attraction, age, size, weight, "naturals?", has children and so on. It's a flesh market. No garantuee that the "super model" will be fun to be with. Women over 30 in Thailand are considered old :>)
@@somtamsomchai4642 a lot of farangs only want the 30 to 40 gals , especially older Western men in 45 to 55 age range. Some of those MILFS in LK are hot af! I agree with you though, in Asia over 30 women are considered to be "old". I ve lived in several Asian countries.
This vlog should be part of any college course on economics. No professor could explain the laws of supply and demand more engagingly. Daz, I think you should receive an honorary doctorate for your research contributions to economics and social studies, if not a Nobel Prize!
Good one!
Ha Ha Ha thank you very much
Wow ! Their some accolades. 👏👏
That's Dr. Daz to you!
You must be low IQ,, it's only common sense for god sake 😜
All you hear from bar owners is that it has been hard times for the last 2 years and bemoaning how tough it has been financially.The prices they charge for a bottle of beer and lady drinks is obscene and all of the gals are hard selling it big time.So a fancy gogo bar want me to pay 120 baht for a beer and 180 for a lady drink and then wants 1500 for a barfine for which the ST rate is now 2000.I guess these bar owners have never heard the saying "you can sheer a sheep many times but skin it only once".They want the tourists back but at the same time they want to hold them upside down and shake money out of them.I just got here to Pattaya and I have been hesitant to partake in this kind of fun as I need to get myself set up for the long term.Once I have done so I doubt I will bother with gogo bars at all given the sky high prices they want to charge.Vote with your wallets guys and send them a message.
i only go to soapies. a lot cheaper.
These prices sound crazy to me. I wonder how much an oil massage is now? There are many benefits, like no need to drink (big one for me as Im on a keto diet), more time efficient, more fun generally, no annoying mamasans/customers/etc.
Nailed it T Amos , the Thai ladies will be eating themselves !.
@Aaron 73 yes I did 🤣🤣
What really pisses me off is when you buy a lady’s drink that consists of a few mouthfuls of coca cola which cost the bar owner about 3 Baht, topped up with ice in a small glass and they charge you 150 Baht for it.
Daz you're a real trooper - getting down in the trenches and taking the hits for all your loyal followers😀
Seriously mate great job as always. Good on you and thanks once again!
Daz you're a star, forcing yourself to go into all those bars & having a beer while talking to those girls just to get information just for us, top man.
Iv'e lived in Pattaya since 2003. Things strated really going downhill after the housing crash in 2008. The bars have always wanted the girls to be in the bars and not get barfined especially the gogo bars. Before 2008 I remember this trend around 2006. Before 2008 the 10 day contracts started at Diamond agogo by the owner MR T. The 1st time I saw a barfine for a model/showgirl for 1500 was at Living Dolls Showcase other gogos soon followed. The real superstars were getting 30k back then. Now they all the bars have raised the prices as Daz pointed out. I've used Thai love links twitter etc. A good video. If yu live here its not so bad you have your regulars on call.
Mr T, you mean BA from the A-team? He owned a bar in Pattaya? Wow, never knew. lol
@@thechrisverhoeven lol
Regarding the average looking ladies vs. model quality, I find I would rather have an average looking one who has a really good attitude (friendly, playful, seems to enjoy her job) over a top shelf girl who is just going through the motions.
A lot of that bad attitude on Walking St.
U have to go with the flow John the ones that come back and want to have a game of dominoes u don't b.f. them next time 🤣😂
I frequent Tijuana Mexico. At the Hong Kong club, the girls charge $80.00 for about 40 minutes. The room is $20.00. and you gotta tip out the room attendants about $7.00. Over time I would get a girl's phone number (WhatsApp) and get 2-3 hours for about $120.00. Now when I come down I have a list of gals that I can call because we have a relationship established. Now I only request room service at my hotel. It works great! The only bummer is they periodically ask me to send them money. I have done that in the past but I always made them work it off. Who would ever think you could have credit with a free Lancer. LOL Remember Guys. "YOU PAY THEM TO LEAVE"
This video and the Walking Street one just confirm I'll stick to beer bars, freelancers and Soi 6. Where I can still have a girl for short time 1000 - 1500 and a long time for 2000.
These prices are insane. They're the same as here in Europe, which is stupid considering the cost of living. They must realise that customers will stop coming or at the very least stop barfining if they keep these prices. People don't want to pay the same as in their home country AND pay for a plane ticket / travel 11+ hours.
Very true...
Yup. Im landing soon, and if this is really the situation, a strategy change will be implemented. The good ol days really ARE gone it seems.
Yeh I've been seeing girls just as hot on Soi 6, massage places and other bars. Had no idea these places were so expensive I ve been here a week and haven't gone into a gogo yet. Will go into one just to have a look but doubt ill barfing. Thanks for the info saved me going in there.
bang on
@@genestone4951 Go to Soi 6. Much cheaper and you can usually find at least one superstar at each bar. If not, walk three steps either way to another bar and start over. LOL
Drag yourself through all bars of the soi. I wish I had a job like yours. But it was all for science. You are adding value to your vids with great info. Keep the good work.
These prices are going to put off a lot of punters, me included.
There’s plenty of other lesser tourist places in Thailand where similar fun can be had for a fraction of the price
Where would you go?
That what I was thinking.
Seeing those prices makes me so grateful that I never took up drinking and I'm flying my lady friend over from the Philippines to meet me..
Another great video, Thanks for putting in the effort for all of your fans. Looking forward to my middle of June trip with my two brothers. Your videos are a great resource.
I have been coming to Pattaya since 2002 one thing I learnt very quickly was to only go in a go go bar for a beer quick ogle & off out! Billabong & bars like it is where u will find me call me a cheap Charlie if u want it doesn’t bother me. Massage ladies are also willing to go all the way for between 1,000 - 1,500. You can still find stunning looking girls outside of the go go bars I just don’t get the fascination some guys have with them it’s a quick way to lose at least 5,000 in a very short time, pardon the pun! I’m not a two week millionaire so I get their desperation to get laid & quick good luck to them. Great vlog as ever this is one of the stand out channels 👍👍👍
I agree. Why waste money at these stupid gogo bars? Just go to regular beer bars in LK, or Soi Buakaho etc.
Massage shops good too.
You are not a cheap charlie you are a wise man Damien
They are there because guys get carried away with all the ladies on display and will pay to get one out of there quickly. It's a big trap for newbies
@@chrispekel5709 agreed 👍
Thank you for your information it is really helpfull as havnt been for a while keep up the good work 😀😀
Thanks for the video .... Sure looks like Pattaya is getting very expensive .... Times are changing & perhaps other destinations will provide better value around Thai .... Maybe time to give Pattaya a miss for a while and explore other locations .
Problem is that Thailand looks like being the place with the least amount of restrictions soon. Philippines may be cheaper somewhat, but must be triple vaxxed to go there, and wear masks everywhere. That won't be changing anytime soon. Maybe Pattaya only good for regular beer bars now, nightclubs and go go s too expensive, priced themselves out of the market. It's either cheaper Philippines, and the BS over the top vaccination requirements and mask wearing, or more expensive Thailand with ( probably soon ) no restrictions.
Cambodia has fewer restrictions.
But we're to go..???
Cambodia and the Philippines are nonexistent. I've been in Mexico for the last 3 yrs and its expensive here... 100$-150 an hour.
@@sails3538 try Colombia
@@sails3538 Bremerhaven: ST 30 Euro. 😱😆
As always so informative,,,Looking forward to having a drink with you when I am back to Pattaya.
~Colombia here I come, no BF no LD, no drink queens, The equiv 1100 baht for a ST and no shortage of really much more prettier ladies in their 20s.... For me Pattaya is going down the pan because of rampant farang inflation that is taking place there........It was nice knowing the Pattaya of old but the renewed Pattaya is def not for me and I have been experiencing it since the early 1980s
Excellent vlog and detail confirming what many have experienced re drink queens. They are getting so much now they dont even need to go with customers to earn a good wage. That would also account for the attitude of many.
Ultimately it is bad news for Pattaya and the bars and ladies will out price themselves of making a living. Those BF are ridiculous and if you add the LT/ST plus lady drinks on top, it turns out to be an expensive evening for many.
I think a few of these bar owners will be in for a shock if they think the great pattaya gold rush is on the way at 43 baht to £1 record high inflation ridiculous flight prices & insurance fuel out of control . I doubt many will have a few grand to blow in pattaya .
I suspect that Koh Samui will be packed by December with all the b.s. lifted and the outdoor bars will be the best value in terms for beer n honeys. I know a Mama who runs a pub down there from Korat and she texted me about a good line up coming after the rainy season. She's always had a lot of Super stars at her place. I don't know her secret, but there are 9 bars on this one particular side road in Chewng Beach and her bar is always the most fun, best prices, best eye candy, and always the most crowded. 😀
Cheers Daz. I find it incredible guys would pay those sort of prices. I would rather have a five finger shuffle and a few brandys at home....
Saw this in Las Vegas last year now things are back to normal. Now last time in Pattaya 2 years ago had multiple issues like this in Treetown and now I avoid the area. Thaifriendly is stll good. And other options are available so use them.
I'd be interested to see how this compares to Bangkok prices.? Is it even worth the trip down to Pattaya.?
Was a week ago same if not worse the girls will not go home with you Thailand has become a wasted trip more or less well what I come here for anyhow.Never again.
Very good nice to no the prices since I have not been there for 2 years excellent stream thanks
BF plus ST / LT ST 3000 LT 5000 - that is the new price ... inflation ... inflation ... thank u for the video and the information
Still a ripoff. Why would you EVER pay 1000 to 1500BF. thats just insane.
So why come here? Go to Nam or the Philippines..if people pay these prices.. the good days are over
its sad and true there getting too greedy and wrecking a good place
This will trickle down to other places around Pattaya..
Exactly daylight robbery
Nam, never heard anyone talk about getting girls there? Where in Nam ?
Viet.
Thanks for the information, really helpful.
Very expensive compared to 3 years ago . Still like the place . Just have to watch the pennies a bit more . Can still have a great time. Cheers Daz
The best and most complete video info I ever seen about very good Daz much appreciate for your work
you are the best pathfinder to pleasure information..I wish you the best..
Glad it helped
12 drinks and a restaurant visit from me I coming soon I will be glad to meet you will be my honour to have drinks with you if you find time an afternoon in july
Good informative video Daz. 3 words came to mind by the end and these are greed, nails and coffins.
as a freq visitor to Patts massage shops and beer bars, my bread and honey
gogo's are fine every once in a while, as long as you understand the play as this video well illustrates.
Very informative. Thanks Much!
Did sonething really stupid the other nite and barfined a girl from kink. Worst experience ever. A complete rip off from the very start. So over the go gos. Absolute crap, massively overpriced and terrible service.
good to know.
Sorry to hear this GK from your perspective of poor value for money. It's only happy customers that return to establishments such as the one you mentioned. They are in for a well deserved wake up call once all covid restrictions have been lifted and they find that they don't have the expected customers.
That is an awful place. Went there in early 2019, just a gimmick, rude staff,
shit service.
When I first came to Pattaya in 2005/06 I was coming 3 times a year!! Then I married a Thai now we come occasionally,(she’s been living with me in UK since 2007)I stayed In the Nova Lodge I think soi 6??? Right next to the beach round the corner from the Hard Rock Cafe hotel. Now we always just fly upto khon kaen then to Kalasin north east Thailand to my wife’s village, love love the village life!! There’s a place in my wife’s village- Lampao Dam, amazing peaceful place I go walking all around these every morning. Also a dinasaur museum. We coming in October:)
Hey James,
I always wanted to go to Issan or Khon Kaen. I know it's more of their country or village side but fo they have any beer bars or go go bars even if it's just a few? If so are the prices more expensive?
@@Thelilantjr I think their are bars in Kalasin but not like Pattaya or bkk, my wife lives in UK with me but her family village is there, such a lovely peaceful place, hardly any foreigners. I walk all around lampao dam every morning, local fishermen, lots to do
There’s a dinasaur museum nearby Aswel
I added a link, this is the spillway,lampao dam, love it!!! I cycle and walk all around here
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If you want to visit there, lovely hotel not that far called RIMPAO HOTEL, swimming pool, massage,air conditioning etc. any questions just ask :)
Variable costs of beer and labour are only one element of costs of goods sold with regards to gross profit. It appears that rent and other expenses, unique to this sector, are also on the rise. Greed will kill the golden goose, which might actually have been the plan all along.☹️
Great video Daz, only downside is the length. I could easily watch one of your videos for an hour or 2
Yes, but LK is not very long LOL
@@everythingPattaya can you do this on Soi 6 then lol 😂
I've been on the ground since Saturday morning, Pattaya is tidal waved with available Thai girl, 2 hour ST (my preference) 1000 baht, over night LT 2000 baht. Its an overwhelming Falang buyers market here now, long may it be so.
If LT is still available for 2000 that's excellent.
I'm guessing you are a YOUNG MAN ?
Great video Daz thanks for sharing.. About right from what I seen and herd as well .. It seems to me that the bar owners and the girls have forgotten why people come to Pattaya. Value for money has gone out the window.
You are correct
Very good video and info👍👍 Very few Pattaya vloggers provide accurate info and opinions on this. Keep up the good work👍👍🍺
Thank you so much 🙂
@@everythingPattaya I’m booked to come in mid-July. If I bump into you, I’ll buy you a beer for all the valuable info!!
A great vidéo from LK METRO. ! Thank you very much.
A Wind Mill dancer was sitting beside me when she got payed. She made 50k that month. But had a few deductions so she netted 42k for the month.
Lady drinks at 160 are too expensive for me.... Dam.... Back to the beer bars. And maybe the gentleman clubs.
But the go go bar owners are forgetting...the lady drinks and ST/LT normally comes hand in hand....usually those going for ST/LT will spend a couple of LDs so if the owners wanna try to discourage ST/LT, WTF would people spend in their bars in the first place? Theres always bar beers & soi 6 for customers to spend on LDs if really desperately need to drink with a lady...
Real good in-depth analysis. Maybe a recruiter will have good times if he gets enough girls back into town....
luv Pattaya, but I might just visit soapy massage when needed and drink quietly alone with background music at a tiny bar when finished. Great vid man!
All the Soapies opened Today
Don't barfine any of them, and no LDs. Let the businesses go broke and the streets will be full of the choice fruit too. This is sheer greed that cannot be justified by the conditions. Twenty years of over-building. Option Two: Lunch date.
I have heard stories from various guys that the gogos in Lk are padding the check-bins with drinks they hadn't ordered and lady drinks they hadn't agreed to.
These guys won't be going back again to be ripped off
I would never pay 3000 b for ST. 1000 B in Soi 6 or at the massage parlour was what I paid per covid. And thats what I will pay next month then I return.
Only a moron would do that. 3000 is LT, and that better be for at least 15 hours.
You will find that ST prices on Soi 6 are creeping up too, 1500 plus 500 for the room, especially around "Nightwish" bars and what nightwish do other soi 6 bars soon follow
Another great informative vlog. Great work!
For a Go go to be of interest to most guys it has to be at least one of these two things
A interactive fun
B staff of a higher average than bars etc
If it’s neither it’s just a waste of time..especially if they are pushy on the LD front
As in soi 6 (soi Nightwish) Nightwish group owns maybe 20 bars there.
BF is 1250bt..for a beer bar.
Ridiculous.. i still go to Gogos and enjoy my time, buying some ladydrinks.
But stop barfine since some years back. I'm not a Cheap Charlie..but I ain't stupid..😉
Thanks for a great video
I have new business degree college graduates coming to work for me. That do not understand nor could explain simple economics as you did as well in this great informative video.
Ha Ha thank you
I think at these prices people will start to go to the Philippines, cheaper than Thailand now.
Philippines too many restrictions. If Philippines get rid of mask mandate and triple vaxxed they will get more tourists.
Try Phuket - I just returned. Cheaper and easier to find where the action is.
Good info 👍. But i like only normal beer bar action. How much LD, BF, Short time and Long time, normal beer bar.... Soi Buakhao, Soi Pothole, Soi 7...??
There will be price resistance from punters. Asking and getting will be their reality check. Time to give Pattaya a big miss. Priced themselves out of market. Other places will benefit from this crazy pricing.
true i can get a hooker better looking and cheaper online sites in australia its crazy
Exactly
where else is there? Philippines is a no go
@@lmimssoi6978 it's either Thailand, Philippines, or Cambodia. Vietnam no good for mongering. Philippines too many restrictions.
A great expose on potential costs om this Soi.
It seems that although there are few girls and possibly fewer tourists prices vary from Soi to Soi.
B1,000 BF would be about right for ST. B1,500 for L. T. (Over night) would also be about right.
Alan Whicker CBE never gave out information like this 👍
I've never been a fan of girlie bars, mainly cos they play shit music. But if you add-up the drinks, the BF, her rates, the noodles, the time and trouble, then it's cheaper/better to visit a good soapy. At least you step back out into the night all squeeky clean. 👍
I don't know about the other customers, but personally if I go to a gogo bar it's to choose and pick up a girl. The drinks are just a way to get to know each other, but if the girls refuse to sleep with the customer, I don't see the point of going to a gogo bar anymore.So no lady drinks;no more money for them.
I don't know the percentage of customers who have my approach but it will be as many lost customers.
Another great video! Looking forward to beer bar prices.
Thanks for the video. Very interesting on macro/micro economy. How do girls coordinate with each other on prices? I’m thinking they girls don’t have union. How would girls maintain good relationship with bars after supply chain crunch? Why don’t bars stop ST/LT is they don’t want girl to leave the bar? This is their bars, and can change the rule, correct? How would the price trickle up for street ladies? Very intriguing to see how this is going to play out for next a few months.
It seems there are just too many places open. Perhaps some would have been better waiting until the high season to open 🤷♂Maybe there are too many full stop?
Girls being picky! Best of luck to them but works both way. Prices climbing to european prices meaning why go to thailand in the 1st place when similar attractions are availabe for a much shorter and cheaper flight from home. Plenty of women available not all want to work in bars ago gos etc. They have wised up and are making serious money from online apps like thai friendly tinder etc.
Hi Daz ! Many thanks for the video and informations. One question, do you pay tips for the girls and services? If Yes, how much is reg?
Can do, but no more than 100 baht IMO
Regards meeting bar owner… is it Steve about his Agogo opening soon as he’s mentioned BF minimums? Ps. Your content is great for knowledge on the ground and much more thorough 👍🏽 Great work Daz
Your videos (and corresponding comments) are beyond helpful). One off topic question: Are there any issues with fake beer/booze being served at any of these bars in Pattaya? Worked in China for quite a few years and the amount of fake alcohol there really made me paranoid about everything.
Never heard of any fake beer
Very interesting well done
Poor Dazza having to go to 10 Go Go's for our benefit, I'm playing my little violin for you as I watch this. 55555. Just kidding mate as I was 1 of the guys who asked about LK metro prices. Thanks for the info. After seeing this it makes you want to go to these places buy yourself only a drink have a little perv at the skimpy dressed girls say your goodbyes and move on to the next place as a way of giving them and the owners a middle finger. You would be better off finding a very friendly massage place, get your needs satisfied and of a night just look at the eye candy while enjoying a beer or 2?
Probably a good option for those still prepared to go to Pattaya.
Thanks for current prices.
Beach road coconut bars are cheaper than the barfine, that's including the sex and bar in the room...
Bye bye go go bars.
great info mate, thanks
So you mentioned 3000 ST and 5000 LT for the models and about half for the regulars. What is the percentage of girls working at the bars that are models?
About 30%
@@everythingPattaya Thanks for the feedback! The last time I was there was at the beginning of the pandemic (Jan-Feb 2020). Prices have sure gone up since then. I remember paying 600-800 barfine at Paradise Agogo and 2000 for ST.
Daz what about the happy hours in Pure Paradise Destiny ? 2 for 1 Time bar 50 baht Leo. Billabong 60 baht Triangle 60 baht Cheap Charlie 49 baht.
Yes, Pure do a 2 for 1 in happy hour, you just pay full price, but get 2, unfortunately that happened to me with 2 sodas for 135 baht, which of course I couldn't drink.
@@everythingPattaya seems a few places are doing that. Looking forward to the new walking street type entrance to Soi pothole. Maybe in 5 years 555
I know this sounds off topic , is there a men's club that offers a cool swimming pool as opposed to the usual hot tubs in the sun ??? Cheers
Any swimming pool which is in building shadow all day is always cool.
@@everythingPattaya and ?
Super information
Looks like I will be spending a lot of time on Soi 6 and in the new Treetown area this July after seeing this. I am not dealing with that nonsense on holiday and getting pissed off. I am looking forward to the new GO GO called Escape that has a system to stop all of this kind of foolishness! See you in July buddy!
Choices have already cost Thailand it's preeminent spot as a tourist destination. Now it seems like they want to lose the one thing that actually made them famous....cheap women. Lol. Onlyfans and paypal mean that the prettiest women don't need to leave their houses. I used to say Pattaya will never die but I can't see it resemling anything like it was pre pandemic.
Nice Video. Greatings from Huai Yai 🇹🇭.
Went to a bar around Soi Baukhao and to my surprise lady drinks were only 100B each. Not sure if that is normal for them or not. Not a big bar and not many girls but has a pool table and cheap drinks so didn't complain.
If the girls up north hear about all this money that can be made in your town, that could increase the supply of ladies in the bars. It's doubtful they are making nearly so much at their current jobs, if they have one. But then, there must be an adequate supply of customers to support them.
Thanks for sharing
I am not a cheap Charlie but prices for a beer for us is ridiculous on principal I'd not go for that reason. Christ
I have to ask, what do the abbreviations PR, PR-E and PR-S on the Pin Up sign stand for?
Different levels of clothing worn, or not !
Sad for those who spend thousands and goes home alone after talking for hours with different girls about; what's your name, where you come from?, what name your hotel?, how long your holiday?
I am not sure these high prices is good for business, but I guess nothing much to do about it, supply and demand theory. When I am out bar hopping, I do not see too many foreigners and some bars seem to have few customers, so even after Covid-19, it will not be easy to make a profit. It does not seem to scare the bar owners they have been investing a lot.
I honestly believe that bar owners believe times will return to pre Covid levels sooner than later but Pattaya as changed and probably it needed to but world prices are escalating and this will impact on the supply of tourists into Thai and then there is the question of demand at these inflated prices . I believe tourists will become very selective in terms of where they drink and what LD they buy ? ... Interesting times !
@@neils9725 correct. People are getting smashed by inflation now, travellers to Pattaya will be very discerning and selective.
@@neils9725 Let us hope tourist come back to pre-pandemic levels. I think they say 20,000 arrivals every day to Thailand. In Pattaya I see a lot of Indian nationals, but they seem to be selective too, going mostly to places run by Indian expats. I plan to go bar hopping LK Metro tomorrow and visit the much talked about 2nd floor of Kink gogo, in this review he recommended 1st floor, so I guess I take a look there too. Tourist must have big budgets, 10,000 Baht a day with hotel, food, and party, while expats can have the same fun for half the price or less.
@@neils9725 I believe the bar owners are very blind. Just look at what is happening around the world right now.
Inflation going through the roof, diesel prices off the charts expensive, salaries around 8% lower than last year.
Going to be mass unemployment.
Sorry but to many problems are happening on almost a daily feed.
@@dantae666 Good idea! Lot of pressure to get the tourist to spend a lot to make up for lost revenues the two last years.
The girls have expenses too and often have a boyfriend who want a new motorbike. Some girls have multiple revenue streams in addition to salary and drinks.
You asked to ring the bell at the end of the video, but I have bad experiences with doing that in Thailand, lol. Yes, those girls might earn well, but most of the money usually goes to the family, unfortunately.
Really sorry you had to do this matey .the hard life you lead .makes me really jealous . hopefully I'll be there September suffering as well .thanks for the video .you take care .
Thanks for information,،👍
Can see why the gentleman clubs are so popular with the non tourist expats.
I understand the barfine prices are high to cover missed opportunity for more lady drinks but that's a myth, not the way it goes in the real world.
If a girl does ST, they normally come back after two hours to the bar and work until closing to collect daily commission. The higher barfine commission is under 200baht for the girl. Barfines are simply another tool for making money from each girl.
Bilibong at LK Metro at the corner is a Free Lance Bar without any barfines and cheap drinks. They have 25 girls serving drinks getting a similar commission. They are making money without Barfines. You can sit with the girl for hours. Not watch her gulp a watered down drink and dance for 20 minutes. Meanwhile another lady steps in with her friend asking for more lady drinks.
So, use common sense. Frequent the Free lance bars where you can sit and talk. Save a few baht and let the new tourist spend like a drunken sailor . Getting scammed at the gogo bars.
In the Philippines "Barfine" includes everything. The bar takes there cut and the girl gets the balance, tips not included. A much simpler way. No need to negotiate ST or LT prices. Often it's LT by default.
and how much they want LT in phils?
LK is very good if you avoid the go go bars. The regular bars still have a lot of pretty girls who are happy to do LT, especially if you are a style of guy they genuinely like. It does not mean they "love" you though, so naive newbie beware. This is their job, even if they may genuinely like you. I m sure LT is more expensive now, used to be 2000, probably 2700 or 2800 now.
@@brettchun38 2000-3000 peso
True said 👌
@@ericmepho7017 similar to baht? Would have to check.
What are the prizes from the queens club lk metro ?
Much the same as all the rest
Makes my business model of beer bars and freelancers even more sensible.
Yep beer bars and TF app on your phone.
What is BF regular 1200 B?
I understand... Thank you 👍😉😉
The 16,000 thb is base income. The girls have to sell x amount of lady drinks before they earn above.
16K is for 10 days at a WS GoGo so x3 for a month, + drink commission + many tips !!
Great Vlog but hows this Grab you I know for a Fact some Bars are changing 5K baht for bar fines with another 5 K to bar Owner and they getting it and they charge 160 baht per beer and get it so the Prices I agree are Crazy and the Girls are Swapping bars like it was a Merry go Round Strange Times for Sure
Why is there an upstairs and downstairs in Kink?
Go check it out, dancing downstairs
Playing upstairs
Hi Daz, coming there from Nov-April this year for first visit. Could you give me advice on best area to stay in? Not a big party guy, more of a relax on beach staying in a great resort with amazing amenities type. Looking at Jomtien with the occasional visit into Pattaya city. Recommendations?
Appreciated
Jomtien or Pratamnak
I dont mean to be annoying but if your not a party animal (which is fine) and prefer relaxing on nice beaches with luxurious hotels etc, why come to Pattaya and not Phuket. Pattaya has one of the worst beeches in Thailand and Jomtien isnt much better. I would seriously consider Phuket or Krabi over Pattaya
Plan on spending time on Phuket, Phi Phi Island and Chiang Mai as well. I thought Jomtiens beach was clean. No?
@@georgelucas6941 yes it is clean but if you want the best beaches in Thailand then jomtien wouldn’t come close
@@georgelucas6941 for beach and luxury hotels check out khao lak, especiila the Mariott. but no bar actions
The questions is also how long the gogos on WS and LK can keep going while not being busy, how many months left are we talking about. High season 22/23 will be a dealbreaker imo. If it turns out too be bad then i cant see this guys staying in buisness any longer.
Well thank you for your info. It's settled, we're not going to walking St. 160 - 170 LD Are you kidding ?. If they are charging primo prices then the talent needs to be primo too.
Want to be careful because you run the risk of ppl just glossing over the places and go elsewhere.
Some of these girls living in swish condos driving cars etc. Starting their own bars. No wonder. Never had it so good.
Hi Daz very Informative & seems that we have An Idea now on the GO Go bars & Gents Clubs & as your theme is best Valuve for us poor suckers Can you show Vids on St & LT on freelancers who Dont work in Bars & where is there Favorite places to hang out & rate Quality I think the Bars are Played out & from my Experance worst service from Bar Girls who only want to get back to Bar !!!!!!!!
Once the difference between "models" and "regulars"? Is it the quality?
Yes
It's purely about physical attraction, age, size, weight, "naturals?", has children and so on. It's a flesh market. No garantuee that the "super model" will be fun to be with. Women over 30 in Thailand are considered old :>)
@@somtamsomchai4642 a lot of farangs only want the 30 to 40 gals , especially older Western men in 45 to 55 age range. Some of those MILFS in LK are hot af! I agree with you though, in Asia over 30 women are considered to be "old". I ve lived in several Asian countries.