Rule book in 2001: "It was unquestionably not a fumble" "When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body". That's as clear as it gets. It was a bad rule, but the call was correct. This is further validated by the fact that the Patriots were on the other side of a fumble overturned by the tuck rule earlier that same year.
@@bearsportsnews Cool story bro, did you hear that Brady is a QB, not a referee? Or that people can be wrong, or troll/lie? Or that written language has limited possible interpretations and the game of football is governed by written rules that can be reviewed for whether they were properly followed or not? For something like this, rule book >>>>> Tom Brady. And the rule book couldn't have been more clear. I know evidence often doesn't stop the internet from doing its thing, but this was settled ages ago for everyone who actually listens rather than just believing whatever is desired.
I was with my dad watching this. His mom had just passed away. He was in a bad place. This game got his mind off all of it. It was a good day for football
Raider Soto hey man i know it was a fumble, you know it was a fumble, but the NFL as we all know are idiots but the magic that Tom Brady has made happen makes me okay with the call, weather or not your a pats fan you have to admit the Brady Belichick era has been fun to watch.
@@timbrady1176 Actually it was a bad call it did not even fit the rule. Brady had two hands on the ball and it was not going forward it was being pulled in. No longer a tuck under the rules. Refs hate the Raiders then and now.
@@siddemayo4319 I prefer to watch the game now a days from the comfort of my couch with the heater on….I also played in snow games and frigid temps during high school lol. As a tight end, once you start moving and Workin those muscles non stop you warm up a lot and don’t even notice it…you’re halfway numb anyways 😂
Still not a pass. He wasn't throwing the ball. His arm was moving forward but it wasn't a throw, the ball would have been released before he was hit otherwise. And obviously it would be a fumble under today's rules, they literally created the Tuck Rule to prevent this kind of horrible call from happening again.
the only people that think that wasn't a fumble..... Patriot fans. Even Pats players on that team thought that was a fumble. Oh well, was a hell of a game.
Basically, as the rule existed, if a quarterback stepped back in the pocket and immediately made a pump fake, it wasn’t possible for him to fumble. No matter what.
It’s a fumble but unless u watch it in slow mo it looks like an attempted pass at regular speed. I can understand why the refs ruled it that way, but when u watch on replay it’s obviously a fumble
Ya I'm a pats fan and this was a good rule to get rid of. To this day I still don't understand why it was a rule in the first place... But I'm happy it is cuz we won the Super Bowl
This was the first NFL game I attended. I was 11. A few things I’ll never forget about that night I attended this game with my Dad and brother. My brother was a Raider fan. We saw one other Raider fan that night in the parking lot on the way into the game We were at about the 30-20ish yardline in the bleachers. There was a guy in the end zone in shorts with a leaf blower blowing snow all game. I thought he was a madman for wearing shorts and he was in that end zone for the entire game The second Chuck came around the edge and sacked Brady, the crowd knew immediately. Fans were pouring out of the stadium. My first glimpse of what it meant to be a “Pats fan.” And this was before the Dynasty. This was almost 20 years ago and it sucks I can’t remember it all, but that was a hell of a game and I had the time of my life. Playoff football in the snow. Being able to see Gannon, CWood, Beikert, Jano, Brady, etc., was amazing. Also that stadium was a dump The next and only other playoff game I went to was the 2004 divisional Titans vs Pats game. It was -10 or so with the wind chill. I’d never been colder in my entire life. After the game I was sick for a month. My dads friend and I both got frostbite, he lost his big toe. I was luckier than him but I’d never been sicker. Fun times though, but seems lime the nfl just isn’t what it used to be back then. It just felt much more authentic and raw. Go Vikes
Good story and you nailed it..I was thinking the same thing re so much more authentic and raw back then...and the field goals !!!! Miss the days at the end of a game kicking to win or go to OT with the freezing Temps not to mention the wind..it ain't the same
@@RonaldWashington1 If you look at the video, you can see that he's already touch the football with his non-throwing hand. Should have been an easy call; fumble.
The kick to tie the game at the end of regulation, taking the stakes, the weather, and everything else into account, was in my opinion the greatest field goal I have ever seen. I know Vinatieri won multiple Super Bowls as well, but that kick in that weather was the best kick of his career. You literally could not even see the ball going through the uprights because it was snowing so hard.
@@chriswalls5831 yeah cause the referre said Brady didn't fumble and it clearly was and that was supposed to be raiders win but wasn't due to refs making a bad call
@@chinito3161 Nfl makes bad calls all the time. It just happens that Brady made the best out of the bad calls. To this day terrible calls are made, but we don't notice as many impactful ones because most the time they don't change anything.
+Gabriel Fontenele No it's not. His arm was moving forward, but then it stopped and it wasn't moving meaning it should have been a fumble. He wasn't throwing, he faked and then tucked it back in. And Patriots fans act like they have a huge dynasty and never get help.
Tuck rule was a bad rule.....and Brady arm stopped.....then he was hit.....he was not in the act of throwing the ball....the call was BAD...period.....anyone who disagrees with the facts is a liar
@@jaimemedina1361 I'd say Tucker is the best kicker of all time, but Vinatieri is still the GOAT if that makes sense. Tucker is statistically better in every way, but multiple Super Bowl winning kicks is hard to beat.
To people whining about the patriots cheating: This had nothing to do with the patriots, it was a ref call. The tuck rule was not "created" for the patriots, it was actually called against them earlier in the season. Keep trying though.
I came to the comments as a raider fan to complain about how his arm was not in motion when the ball came out but, this is the most legit thing said throughout all of the comments.
You just cannot overturn this call to a "tuck rule" it was clearly a fumble and on top of it all to get the play wrong after reviewing it is just insane!
Yeah cause by common sense standards it was a fumble but NOT THE RULE back then. That's the problem. A lot of teams got away with that call years before this. It was a stupid rule
@@shaneclark3605 No, it was a fumble even by the rule back then. "When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble." Brady had brought the ball completely back to his body and even had both hands on it a split-second before Woodson hit him.
@@michaelwhipple7605 To me, it looks like the second it came back towards his body he got hit thus interrupting the act to fully tuck it back to his body. But it's so close I can see arguments both ways.
The game that started it all is when Drew Bledsoe got hit going to the sidelines and broke a bunch of ribs … a play I witnessed as a young dude …. Tom Brady came in …. The rest is history … including drew Bledsoe’s career
Just think about this: If the game ends with Brady fumbling the ball to the Raiders and the Patriots season ends because of it, Tom Brady will most likely not have been the Patriots starting quarterback in the following season. Drew Bledsoe was healthy and was a proven player for a decade, and I doubt that Belichick would have continued to start the 24-year-old back-up QB that essentially lost the playoff game for them the previous year. In many respects, this call by the officials both made and saved Tom Brady's career.
Bledsoe would not still be playing today, and Brady is. But hey, I will sign on to Tom Brady not winning 6 with the Pats--more Super Bowls to go around to other teams.
@@brownsfan3290 key words are that the tuck rule was called 4 times in the history of the rule lmao. It’s a nonsensical rule, you can say whatever you want, it was nonsensical it was so amazingly clear that Brady was pump faking anyway. When the person who benefitted from the call, admits the call was wrong, there is no reason to argue
@@Chris-2 you’re admitting it was used before that game. It was literally a rule in the rule book, I don’t care if you think it’s a bad rule, you can’t blame the refs for getting the call right. They can’t just rule based off how they think the rules should be
This game and the Titans/Bills game with the "forward" lateral (Music City Miracle) are both over 20 years old now and people still talk about them till this day. Football is crazy af and I love it.
Thank you sir.... I remember watching this game live and when the fumble happened, I'm like, there's no way in hell that gets overturned by replay and of course, the rest is history.
Let’s be real. It wasn’t a fumble as per the ruck rule because the ball was not completely against his body. That rule was very stupid but as per the rule it wasn’t a fumble.
@@zerma6yeah the rule was very unintuitive. Nobody knew it existed basically until this play. I guess there was a couple other plays earlier in the year but they were much a lower stakes so nobody cared. I was stunned when they reversed it but so it goes
This one bad call totally changed history. Raiders would have played in back to back Super Bowls and Drew Bledsoe would have remained the Patriots starting quarterback. Tom Brady would have been a career backup that no one had ever heard of.
Then you're not as old as I am. The heartbreaks go back to the '60s. Now it's easy, I can root for the Raiders to lose every week because the left Oakland AGAIN.
***** Read the rule you putz. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble. What happened? Brady started forward movement, saw he was about to get hit, began to tuck it. The only way it could have been a fumble is if he had either completed a tuck, or not begun forward movement. The right call was made.
***** BS rule or not, the right call was made. So criticize the rule, not the call as you did in your original comment. They didn't get rid of it the following year, they got rid of it in 2013, after being enforced twice more after Pats/Raiders.
+Blake You know what no one talks about? ,,if you watch the replays at the 2:24 of the video ,you will see Brady gets wacked in the side of the head before the ball is knocked out,,according to the rule book this is roughing the passer,,, No one ever picks up on this becasue they are too absorbed with watching Brady tuck,,,,
Tuck Rule was 2 years old at this time, and was applied to a call against NE during a 2001 regular-season game against the Jets. What appeared to be a forced fumble on Vinny Testaverde was ruled as an incomplete pass, with the tuck rule quoted. NE lost that game 10-7. The so-called Tuck Rule Game had nothing to do with creating the rule.
Charles in charge you change the game in college playing both sides of the field and won A Heisman 🏆 out of it AND you change the rules of the NFL AND almost got a Super Bowl out of it much love thanks 4 A Great show
NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.[1], Forward motion had stopped but BRady hadn't tucked the ball in yet therefore its not a fumble
His arm was going forward, but he held up(no motion/no tuck)=fumble. The greatest robbery in sports history, making rules as they went. The NFL(National Fix League).
I know these people just dont understand the tuck rule back then. It was after a QB expressed a forward pass then last the ball it would be considered incomplete. Stupid rule but that was the rule and the right call during that time. Theyve since changed it and rightfully so but I think all the fans that felt the Pat's should of lost just want to make up the rules
@@shaneclark3605 That's a bs call. You get hit ball comes lose thats a fumble no matter what way you slice it. Once he brought the ball back down and didn't attempt to throw thats a clear as day fumble.
@@josevillanueva1524 I agree. I never said it wasnt a BS call. However, those werent the rules back then. They changed it since. It was the right call but stupid rule
That was the play that turned me from a hardcore nfl fan to a casual nfl fan. And the bogus calls have only gotten worse over the years. Can take it or leave it now.
Snow and heavy rain games are a big reason why football is the greatest sport known to mankind. Aside from the chess level of intellect involved, the fact that no weather can stop beast of men from going out their to take each other’s heads off for the sake of running a ball across a line is just so awesome. The way weather plays a part in the games difficulty and changes how you have to play is so freakin awesome! While other sports like golf or racing deal with wind and weather to use to their advantage or disadvantage, it’s truly only football where it impacts the game so much yet you don’t have no excuses or choice but to continue to play the game anyways. I remember I went to a Padres game once and the tiniest bit of sprinkle delayed the game for four damn hours smh if baseball played in any weather condition it would still be americas greatest past time but football has over taken that position long ago and for foot reason
This one play made me lose interest in the NFL. How could that not be a fumble? I had no interest in watching a league where the refs make up rules to help the Patriots win.
My dad was a Raider fan, but he had to work during that game. I already knew what happened when he got home, & it was hard to listen to him yell at the tv while he was watching the taping of the game. He knew that was a fumble, & he took that anger to his grave.
How many of those Super Bowls were the result of cheating, and I'm not even talking Deflate Gate because who cares, but everything else you cheating cheaters. You could probably even beat the Houston Astros.
Do you think this is the only call that was blatantly wrong that helped a team win a playoff game? Lookup the Bert Emanuel catch. It literally stopped the Bucs from going to the superbowl.
Fun fact , if this play happened today it wouldn’t have been a fumble , it would have been roughing the passer since it was a clean smack to the helmet
It’s amazing how many ppl think this was a fumble when by letter of the rule at time the call was made correctly. Coleman, the official, even said he only called it a fumble so they could review it.
@@IWantToBelieve1 my father died in a car accident, he was electrocuted during a rain storm in may 2014 Connecticut you can look it up. But he’s not wrong, as a patriots fan, this was the beginning.
This was the start of the patriots 'dynasty'. If they would have lost this game and the Raiders win the Superbowl we would be talking about the start of a Raiders dynasty. Worst call in modern sports history.
David Hogg The tuck rule did apply, you need to watch the video starting from 1:08 to the end. The patriots clearly got the football back, so it could not have been a fumble. If it was a fumble, it would have been ruled a fumble and Oakland would have gotten the ball.
Daniel You should watch the video from 1:14 to 1:20. That should clear up your misunderstanding of the play. You can disagree with the call, but you're ignoring reality if you do that.
My dad is a raiders fan and he still talks about this game. I wasn’t even born when this game happened but apparently he was so mad he broke the tv remote.
I just come to watch highlights, and before you reply, yes I know I'm a "bandwagon" fan, and yes 18-1 and of course I know, I'm part of a shitty fan base
Refs: "It was not a fumble"
Brady: "Might have been a fumble"
keep it on the low
Rule book in 2001: "It was unquestionably not a fumble"
"When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body". That's as clear as it gets.
It was a bad rule, but the call was correct. This is further validated by the fact that the Patriots were on the other side of a fumble overturned by the tuck rule earlier that same year.
@@redsoxu571 cool story bro, did you hear tom brady admitted it was a fumble?
@@bearsportsnews Cool story bro, did you hear that Brady is a QB, not a referee? Or that people can be wrong, or troll/lie? Or that written language has limited possible interpretations and the game of football is governed by written rules that can be reviewed for whether they were properly followed or not?
For something like this, rule book >>>>> Tom Brady. And the rule book couldn't have been more clear. I know evidence often doesn't stop the internet from doing its thing, but this was settled ages ago for everyone who actually listens rather than just believing whatever is desired.
@@bearsportsnews by 2001 rules it was not a fumble and everybody knew it. You know it too. There is no point trying to argue anythinv.
This is one of the rare times a single play completely changes the trajectory of two franchises.
Changed the trajectory of my life. I stopped watching and getting anything nfl after this call.
@@sonictitan1I don't blame you. I was not into football back then but I've heard about this infamous call for a long time now.
The Raiders did make the Superbowl the year after this though. And I really don't think they would've beaten the Rams.
Rams and saints no call comes to mind
Crazy WHAT IF they had cut brady after this game if it was ruled a fumble
I wish it snowed like this more often in today's NFL. especially playoff football
Well blame global warming lol
@@VictorGomez-eg6jb very true.. and people choose to ignore that issue too.
@@NickBauersfeld tell everyone you’re a moron
@@NickBauersfeld He was joking
It does they just shovel the field
I was 10 years old when this happened. Still remember it like yesterday. Still a true raider fan to date
I’m a Chiefs fan but that was a fumble. You guys should have won
I was with my dad watching this. His mom had just passed away. He was in a bad place. This game got his mind off all of it. It was a good day for football
My cousin was 12. He bawled his eyes and will never get over this play.
My dad still cries because of it
man thats a shame, your team moved to las vegas, i cant believe what it must feel like for your team to be moved
Lol even Tom Brady knew it was a fumble
I would simply like to say...
SCREW THAT RATBIRDS!!!!! had to do that
***** says the biased pats fan gtfo like I said even brady knew it was a fumble
Raider Soto hey man i know it was a fumble, you know it was a fumble, but the NFL as we all know are idiots but the magic that Tom Brady has made happen makes me okay with the call, weather or not your a pats fan you have to admit the Brady Belichick era has been fun to watch.
wyoming belichick a great coach... but does get tiresome seeing same franchise win sometimes.
As a Pats fan, I can understand that.
One of the best games I've ever watched ruined by a horrendous call.
horrendous rule, not call lol
The only argument is about the rule, not if it was or was not a fumble.
Super Bowl 57 has entered the chat.
@@timbrady1176 Actually it was a bad call it did not even fit the rule. Brady had two hands on the ball and it was not going forward it was being pulled in. No longer a tuck under the rules. Refs hate the Raiders then and now.
@@IWantToBelieve1 Incorrect but since you want to believe that go ahead.
I wish more games were played in this weather this looks amazing. Also that was definitely a forced fumble. Brady was clearly pump faking.
Yeah amazing for you to watch from your heated living room
@@siddemayo4319 I prefer to watch the game now a days from the comfort of my couch with the heater on….I also played in snow games and frigid temps during high school lol. As a tight end, once you start moving and Workin those muscles non stop you warm up a lot and don’t even notice it…you’re halfway numb anyways 😂
@@philiptucker7590 extra pain tho
Last game ever at Foxborough Stadium.
@@siddemayo4319 lmao right
Clearly a fumble, he was faking a pass then turned back to his throwing position, no way in hell that's a pass.
Thank goodness some random dude hiding behind a historical figure on Google+ thinks so.
Still not a pass. He wasn't throwing the ball. His arm was moving forward but it wasn't a throw, the ball would have been released before he was hit otherwise. And obviously it would be a fumble under today's rules, they literally created the Tuck Rule to prevent this kind of horrible call from happening again.
cmillertime7 - I think you misunderstand the rule.
in 01, it was th correct call. today...not so much
guys, obviously its a fumble, our great communist leader thinks it is so it has to be
It’s been 18 years and it still hurts as much as it did that day. 😢
Get over it
@@joem13yearsago73 who's your team?
@@joem13yearsago73get over the open southern border that will make you a minority soon.
@@Crunch_Buttsteakhe’s prob a chiefs bandwagon who started watching the nfl yesterday
@@mexicann123 yeah probably
the only people that think that wasn't a fumble..... Patriot fans. Even Pats players on that team thought that was a fumble. Oh well, was a hell of a game.
I'm a pats fan and it definitely was a fumble, but bad calls happen all the time - part of the game
Kevin S
yup, not complaining just pointing it out.
If it wasn't for the tuck rule, that would have been a fumble. Its a good thing that its gone.
michael preller Giants fan here. Because of the tuck rule it's not a fumble. Stupid rule but that's the rule.
Broncos fan and it was correct for its its time until the tuck rule was abolished
Basically, as the rule existed, if a quarterback stepped back in the pocket and immediately made a pump fake, it wasn’t possible for him to fumble. No matter what.
... But that rule is stupid that's a fumble
Correct basically a pass attempt unless he successfully pump fake the drop the ball should be a fumble.
@@folkdemgrave773 welp too bad rules are rules
@@folkdemgrave773 You contradicted yourself
It’s a fumble but unless u watch it in slow mo it looks like an attempted pass at regular speed. I can understand why the refs ruled it that way, but when u watch on replay it’s obviously a fumble
The Raiders were robbed, and this is coming from a Chiefs fan.
I agree
Ya I'm a pats fan and this was a good rule to get rid of. To this day I still don't understand why it was a rule in the first place... But I'm happy it is cuz we won the Super Bowl
Wookie Cookie It hurts.
Saying this on behalf of the Raider Nation.
+Wookie Cookie that's two times you guys have stole the Superbowl because of the AFC game
ImDeluxeSP33some raiders will make the playoffs this year
As a Patriots fan I admit that was a fumble.
colbjay99 I don’t watch much football but is the play everyone complaining about is 1:07?
KidTrigger...yes.
colbjay99 finally a rational Pats fan
I think the fact that he pump faked it is why. If he committed it'd be understandable.
Vincent Martinez he has 2 hands on the ball when he gets hit and it’s right about at his waist hard to throw from there
He was in the process of throwing the ball. . .TO HIS OTHER HAND!!
This was the first NFL game I attended. I was 11. A few things I’ll never forget about that night
I attended this game with my Dad and brother. My brother was a Raider fan. We saw one other Raider fan that night in the parking lot on the way into the game
We were at about the 30-20ish yardline in the bleachers. There was a guy in the end zone in shorts with a leaf blower blowing snow all game. I thought he was a madman for wearing shorts and he was in that end zone for the entire game
The second Chuck came around the edge and sacked Brady, the crowd knew immediately. Fans were pouring out of the stadium. My first glimpse of what it meant to be a “Pats fan.” And this was before the Dynasty.
This was almost 20 years ago and it sucks I can’t remember it all, but that was a hell of a game and I had the time of my life. Playoff football in the snow. Being able to see Gannon, CWood, Beikert, Jano, Brady, etc., was amazing. Also that stadium was a dump
The next and only other playoff game I went to was the 2004 divisional Titans vs Pats game. It was -10 or so with the wind chill. I’d never been colder in my entire life. After the game I was sick for a month. My dads friend and I both got frostbite, he lost his big toe. I was luckier than him but I’d never been sicker. Fun times though, but seems lime the nfl just isn’t what it used to be back then. It just felt much more authentic and raw. Go Vikes
Good story and you nailed it..I was thinking the same thing re so much more authentic and raw back then...and the field goals !!!! Miss the days at the end of a game kicking to win or go to OT with the freezing Temps not to mention the wind..it ain't the same
16 years later and it’s still a fumble
Yup and Tom just admitted it was today too 🤣
Lost in the actual ‘tuck’, was one of the greatest kicks in the history of the NFL. Vinatieri’s FG to send it to OT was brilliant.
As a Patriots fan, Tom Brady's arm was going forward
@@RonaldWashington1 100%
@@RonaldWashington1 If you look at the video, you can see that he's already touch the football with his non-throwing hand. Should have been an easy call; fumble.
@@costoncheatham7025 I understand, but since I'm a Patriots fan, he was throwing in my opinion
@@RonaldWashington1 LOL
The kick to tie the game at the end of regulation, taking the stakes, the weather, and everything else into account, was in my opinion the greatest field goal I have ever seen. I know Vinatieri won multiple Super Bowls as well, but that kick in that weather was the best kick of his career. You literally could not even see the ball going through the uprights because it was snowing so hard.
People forgot the kick he made in snow raiders had chance Patriots beat them
@@chriswalls5831 yeah cause the referre said Brady didn't fumble and it clearly was and that was supposed to be raiders win but wasn't due to refs making a bad call
@@chinito3161 Nfl makes bad calls all the time. It just happens that Brady made the best out of the bad calls. To this day terrible calls are made, but we don't notice as many impactful ones because most the time they don't change anything.
Bros meatriding the patriots
Have instant replay and still can't get it right.
they did not want to get it right.....their beloved Patriots lost and they needed to help them
the tuck rule was an actual rule. I think it was a stupid rule but still a rule and it was the right call
+Gabriel Fontenele No it's not. His arm was moving forward, but then it stopped and it wasn't moving meaning it should have been a fumble. He wasn't throwing, he faked and then tucked it back in. And Patriots fans act like they have a huge dynasty and never get help.
+Gabriel Fontenele it looked more like a fumble.
Michaelangelo It was a fumble because he went to fake it and then he stopped and put it near his side where it wasn't moving for a little bit of time.
All my life I thought this was the AFC championship game.
So did i!!
Same!!
at one point I thought it was the Super Bowl
@@hugom8341 They can’t play in da super bowl foo🤣🤣
Mandela effect
Tuck rule was a bad rule.....and Brady arm stopped.....then he was hit.....he was not in the act of throwing the ball....the call was BAD...period.....anyone who disagrees with the facts is a liar
+Frank Columbo Frank that was a fumble....
+Tar heels 215 And a cheater
+Tar heels 215 I kind of think Tom Brady did that on purpose
+Da Ga And a 3x Super bowl MVP
Delta x Ranger He only got to the super-bowls because they cheated
Should have been a fumble, Raiders should have won. Not even a fan of them either.
You should go back and time and tell them it was because your constant bitching isn't gonna do shit.
It was a rule. Deal with it.
FTWD fan look like we found a pat fan.
9/11 is the reason why they made the patriots win
Siniestro Elite how?
1:34 guy slipping and falling lol
Crazy that both Vinatieri and Janikowski are still great kickers in the league 15+ years later
21 years later and Brady is still Quarterbacking
Justin Tucker the 🐐 now
@@jaimemedina1361 I'd say Tucker is the best kicker of all time, but Vinatieri is still the GOAT if that makes sense. Tucker is statistically better in every way, but multiple Super Bowl winning kicks is hard to beat.
Not hard kicking a ball it’s not like kickers are getting drugged test on the regular either 🤔
To people whining about the patriots cheating: This had nothing to do with the patriots, it was a ref call. The tuck rule was not "created" for the patriots, it was actually called against them earlier in the season.
Keep trying though.
I came to the comments as a raider fan to complain about how his arm was not in motion when the ball came out but, this is the most legit thing said throughout all of the comments.
Smack a patiort dak dak dak bin laden il die 4
You just cannot overturn this call to a "tuck rule" it was clearly a fumble and on top of it all to get the play wrong after reviewing it is just insane!
He pumped the ball, then tried to pull it down, Brady even said he thought the game was over
Yeah cause by common sense standards it was a fumble but NOT THE RULE back then. That's the problem. A lot of teams got away with that call years before this. It was a stupid rule
@@shaneclark3605 No, it was a fumble even by the rule back then. "When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble." Brady had brought the ball completely back to his body and even had both hands on it a split-second before Woodson hit him.
@@michaelwhipple7605 To me, it looks like the second it came back towards his body he got hit thus interrupting the act to fully tuck it back to his body. But it's so close I can see arguments both ways.
@@michaelwhipple7605 Brady was bringing the ball in, get some glasses 😂
Almost every important call on the field went the Patriots way. I can think of at least 2 Suberbowls that the Patriots should never have played in...
Same as this TB vs GB game the NFL LOVES TOM
@@AROUNDDAWAY must be nice for TB to get a PI call to go to the SB but the Saints couldn’t get that same call against the Rams.
@@AROUNDDAWAY cry about it
Right on!!!!!!!!
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Watched that play live I was devastated, NFL history changed forever on that play
The game that started it all.
Who could have predicted what was to come for the next 22 years?
The refs
The game that started it all is when Drew Bledsoe got hit going to the sidelines and broke a bunch of ribs … a play I witnessed as a young dude …. Tom Brady came in …. The rest is history … including drew Bledsoe’s career
@@christianguzman92 the refs & all the cheating that was going on with the patsies. And that's just the times they were caught!
Refs, spying, illegal formations, illegal pick plays, deflated footballs, and a case of kraft being a human trafficker being thrown out.
Just think about this: If the game ends with Brady fumbling the ball to the Raiders and the Patriots season ends because of it, Tom Brady will most likely not have been the Patriots starting quarterback in the following season. Drew Bledsoe was healthy and was a proven player for a decade, and I doubt that Belichick would have continued to start the 24-year-old back-up QB that essentially lost the playoff game for them the previous year. In many respects, this call by the officials both made and saved Tom Brady's career.
Bledsoe would not still be playing today, and Brady is.
But hey, I will sign on to Tom Brady not winning 6 with the Pats--more Super Bowls to go around to other teams.
0:27 Gannon makes a sick dodge on the blitz to complete the pass. Dude was underrated.
Rich “The Cannon” Gannon was insane in the west coast offense. Time brown and jerry rice helps too 😂😂
Me as a raiders fan watching this after tom brady admitted it was fumble...
Tom Brady ain’t a ref, by rule that was an incomplete pass at the time. Cope.
@@brownsfan3290 he was clearly pump faking, who cares if he’ a ref, they make mistakes all the time lmao… it’s not even a rule anymore
@@Chris-2 key word is anymore. At the time, red made the right call
@@brownsfan3290 key words are that the tuck rule was called 4 times in the history of the rule lmao. It’s a nonsensical rule, you can say whatever you want, it was nonsensical it was so amazingly clear that Brady was pump faking anyway. When the person who benefitted from the call, admits the call was wrong, there is no reason to argue
@@Chris-2 you’re admitting it was used before that game. It was literally a rule in the rule book, I don’t care if you think it’s a bad rule, you can’t blame the refs for getting the call right. They can’t just rule based off how they think the rules should be
This game and the Titans/Bills game with the "forward" lateral (Music City Miracle) are both over 20 years old now and people still talk about them till this day. Football is crazy af and I love it.
and 30 years ago was the Buffalo 35-3 comeback on the Oilers. that was nuts.
This was the game that robbed me of my innocence, and turned me from being a hard core NFL fan into a very casual fan.
Uhhhh......cool??
Sounds like you were never a hardcore fan
@@bmla88 Sounds like your reading comprehension skills are really lacking.
Thank you for sharing because this was the beginning of the boycott for me
@@denzellcoleman925 yet here you are 😅😂
who’s here after tom brady admitted it was a fumble
Me
Let’s be reeeeaaaaal honest, If that was the raiders QB? It would’ve been a fumble
No man it was just a stupid rule it hurt the patriots in week 2, it was just a shitty rule and I’m glad it’s gone
Nobody knew who Brady was in 2001 dawg😂😂😂😅
As a patriots fan, that was 100% a fumble
Thank you sir.... I remember watching this game live and when the fumble happened, I'm like, there's no way in hell that gets overturned by replay and of course, the rest is history.
Let’s be real. It wasn’t a fumble as per the ruck rule because the ball was not completely against his body.
That rule was very stupid but as per the rule it wasn’t a fumble.
@@zerma6stop
@@zerma6yeah the rule was very unintuitive. Nobody knew it existed basically until this play. I guess there was a couple other plays earlier in the year but they were much a lower stakes so nobody cared. I was stunned when they reversed it but so it goes
Patriots lost on the tuck rule earlier in the season @@michaelcorcoran8768
Man this looked like an exciting game to watch, I wish it snowed this much more frequently during games
Musicrecords10 global warming
@@Rubsters52 No it's not cause of that lol A lot of stadiums have heat pumped under the field to keep it warm enough for snow not to stick.
Often snowy games end up being terrible tho
How many " Tuck Rule" calls have been made after this game?
They changed the rule dummy Ofcourse they aren’t called
@@RCdetails203 They didn't change it until 2013
This one bad call totally changed history. Raiders would have played in back to back Super Bowls and Drew Bledsoe would have remained the Patriots starting quarterback. Tom Brady would have been a career backup that no one had ever heard of.
This still hurts watching this. My first of many heartbreaks as a raiders fan. This game was stolen from them
im sure my logo is another bad memory for you.
Then you're not as old as I am. The heartbreaks go back to the '60s. Now it's easy, I can root for the Raiders to lose every week because the left Oakland AGAIN.
Brady retired now you have to deal with frog mahommes
I know a lot of Raiders fans are still bitter about this but they still had a chance to win the game and blew it in the end.
dallasfanb I'm a cards fan and just saying ,had the raiders been the ones that lost the ball magically the pats would be given the ball
PHX Master You don't know that because that never happened. Thats just your opinion.
dallasfanb Actually. You should know it. The NFL loves Tom Brady.
PHX Master And how do you know that for sure?
Oh yea they love him when they suspended him for no reason. Try me
My dad is a Raiders fan and still hella mad at this
It would have been a fumble and game over for Pats if the tuck rule never existed
Same lol still talks about it on holidays
Cuddie, I was 5 years old when this happened and I'm still hella mad about it.
Ref said his "arm was going forward" as if he was throwing the ball. Lol! Woooooooooow smh...
This call was probably the worst/bad call in NFL history, hands down. Raiders totally mugged from victory.
Hate the rule all you want, it was correctly enforced.
+schlacko Shut up schlacko, you schlack in common sense and you schlack in football knowledge, you dirty slack
*****
Read the rule you putz.
When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.
What happened? Brady started forward movement, saw he was about to get hit, began to tuck it. The only way it could have been a fumble is if he had either completed a tuck, or not begun forward movement.
The right call was made.
+schlacko Its a BS rule and thats why the league got rid of it the following year.
***** BS rule or not, the right call was made. So criticize the rule, not the call as you did in your original comment.
They didn't get rid of it the following year, they got rid of it in 2013, after being enforced twice more after Pats/Raiders.
as a lifelong raiders fan this single game makes my blood boil for many reasons
It was a fumble but in today’s rules, it’d be cancelled out by hands to the face 😂
Play that made Tom Bradys career
Justin James saved Tom Bradys career.
Brady is the best qb eva! A lot of sodium in this thread...
he had a lot more success after this.
Yeah, and the other 3 Superbowl rings.
lou Albino team success
That Vinitieri kick was insane. The original camera angle you couldn't see where the ball went.
He misses raiders win that was greatest fg kick in history even Madden said
So you’re telling me the “GOAT” dynasty started and is built on bad calls. How surprising.
Bad calls and spygate.
It wasnt the pats fault tho
haha
You can see Brady's reaction after the play. He knew it was a fumble.
Even Pats fans know this was a fumble. Raiders got robbed
it's a fumble but by rule book it's not, this is coming from a pats fan
+Blake You know what no one talks about? ,,if you watch the replays at the 2:24 of the video ,you will see Brady gets wacked in the side of the head before the ball is knocked out,,according to the rule book this is roughing the passer,,, No one ever picks up on this becasue they are too absorbed with watching Brady tuck,,,,
Brady clearly was tucking the ball quit crying
+stedun77 that rule didn't apply at that time idiot
duh,,ya it did dipshit!
the raiders were robbed
Fc gang Records Of course they were robbed we have more beef with the refs than any team.
TheOrangePicker what about the Cardinals ,I'm hoping the raiders win it all since the cards won't sadly
Fc gang Records no they weren't,it's a rule that was enforced. Besides,the patriots became a dynasty.
Fc gang Records And the play didn't win the game,they blew it in overtime.
The Raiders would have kneed it and won.
Tuck Rule was 2 years old at this time, and was applied to a call against NE during a 2001 regular-season game against the Jets. What appeared to be a forced fumble on Vinny Testaverde was ruled as an incomplete pass, with the tuck rule quoted. NE lost that game 10-7. The so-called Tuck Rule Game had nothing to do with creating the rule.
Damn , if that's true, Good reporting mate
So they can say see we used it before and it was against them, in a game they were winning when it didn't make a difference.
The Rigs of All Rigs, that started the Patriots run. Still *smh*
It was a fair call for the rules of the time.
@@maddenmobilerookies6202 true that
Incoming everyone!!! Here comes I Ain't Got No Worries!!!!
Charles in charge you change the game in college playing both sides of the field and won A Heisman 🏆 out of it AND you change the rules of the NFL AND almost got a Super Bowl out of it much love thanks 4 A Great show
17 years later still a fumble both hands on the ball which is on his hip I’d love to see him throw a pass that way
What a great career, but hard to believe that was considered an incomplete pass!
NFL Rule 3, Section 22, Article 2, Note 2. When [an offensive] player is holding the ball to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his arm starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body. Also, if the player has tucked the ball into his body and then loses possession, it is a fumble.[1],
Forward motion had stopped but BRady hadn't tucked the ball in yet therefore its not a fumble
I loved playing snow games in madden, I can't believe this doesn't happen anymore.
I REALLY hate the Raiders, but that call was bullshit.
Let me rephrase that, I really 'dislike' the Raiders
+RodneyWayne11 good man
+RodneyWayne11 I agree I dislike the Raiders too but that was a f*** up call
+RodneyWayne11 It was a bad call. I just don't see why many people hate Brady for this. It was a bad call. Not Brady's fault.
Why do you dislike the raiders
It should’ve been the Raiders and Steelers in the AFC Championship that year
His arm was going forward, but he held up(no motion/no tuck)=fumble. The greatest robbery in sports history, making rules as they went. The NFL(National Fix League).
Mark Garduno
That call was made couple of times
that very year...one of them against the Pats that led to a loss.
I know these people just dont understand the tuck rule back then. It was after a QB expressed a forward pass then last the ball it would be considered incomplete. Stupid rule but that was the rule and the right call during that time. Theyve since changed it and rightfully so but I think all the fans that felt the Pat's should of lost just want to make up the rules
@@shaneclark3605 That's a bs call. You get hit ball comes lose thats a fumble no matter what way you slice it. Once he brought the ball back down and didn't attempt to throw thats a clear as day fumble.
@@josevillanueva1524 I agree. I never said it wasnt a BS call. However, those werent the rules back then. They changed it since. It was the right call but stupid rule
That was the play that turned me from a hardcore nfl fan to a casual nfl fan. And the bogus calls have only gotten worse over the years. Can take it or leave it now.
look at the calls now 😭 even worse
Good riddance
The calls now are even worse
UPDATE: your here from worldstar multiple years later after Tom Brady just posted a tik tok stating that “might’ve” been a fumble😃
Snow and heavy rain games are a big reason why football is the greatest sport known to mankind. Aside from the chess level of intellect involved, the fact that no weather can stop beast of men from going out their to take each other’s heads off for the sake of running a ball across a line is just so awesome. The way weather plays a part in the games difficulty and changes how you have to play is so freakin awesome! While other sports like golf or racing deal with wind and weather to use to their advantage or disadvantage, it’s truly only football where it impacts the game so much yet you don’t have no excuses or choice but to continue to play the game anyways. I remember I went to a Padres game once and the tiniest bit of sprinkle delayed the game for four damn hours smh if baseball played in any weather condition it would still be americas greatest past time but football has over taken that position long ago and for foot reason
Yeah this comment is at least 10-12 years too late.....
Not quite true, there was a college game that got rained out. Okay maybe "rain" is a euphemism, it was a tornado, but still.
This one play made me lose interest in the NFL. How could that not be a fumble? I had no interest in watching a league where the refs make up rules to help the Patriots win.
The tuck rule literally existed before this moment lmao it wasn't made up. Tuck rule existed at that time. Therefore its not a fumble.
I'm telling u Raiders are going to playoffs this year and we're gon rematch this game, in the snow, against the Patriots and we're gon win this time!
FunkeyProductsPlaystation I hope so
FunkeyProductsPlaystation i love both of the teams sooooo😂
FunkeyProductsPlaystation Patriots going To destroy The Raiders.
Austin Madore we'll manage
South Side Comptown Aye shut up you disgrace you from Compton, you gotta rep Raiders dummy
My dad was a Raider fan, but he had to work during that game. I already knew what happened when he got home, & it was hard to listen to him yell at the tv while he was watching the taping of the game. He knew that was a fumble, & he took that anger to his grave.
Still a win after those years :)
Cry more after nine superbowls and six wins!♡
6 wins my ass
How many of those Super Bowls were the result of cheating, and I'm not even talking Deflate Gate because who cares, but everything else you cheating cheaters. You could probably even beat the Houston Astros.
Worst call in the history of the NFL....
Do you think this is the only call that was blatantly wrong that helped a team win a playoff game? Lookup the Bert Emanuel catch. It literally stopped the Bucs from going to the superbowl.
Look up the Saints-Rams no call in the 2018 NFC Championship
Man the feeling of watching a heavy snowfall game when there is also heavy snowfall at your place was unmatched
The incomplete pass call that should have been a fumble was the worst call on nfl history
Fun fact , if this play happened today it wouldn’t have been a fumble , it would have been roughing the passer since it was a clean smack to the helmet
that's possible, but it's also possible that Woodson (knowing that the new rule existed) would have tackled below the head - who knows, really?
The Tuck rule was the immaculate reception only 30 years later.
Those coming from JB TikTok, the "it might have been a fumble" moment starts at 1:07
Who here after Tom Brady TikTok saying it was a fumble?
It’s amazing how many ppl think this was a fumble when by letter of the rule at time the call was made correctly. Coleman, the official, even said he only called it a fumble so they could review it.
I was 3 years old when this happened. Dad called it the Tom Brady rule, the rule goes as follows; what ever Tom Brady does yes
Tell your dad to stop whining
@@IWantToBelieve1 my father died in a car accident, he was electrocuted during a rain storm in may 2014 Connecticut you can look it up. But he’s not wrong, as a patriots fan, this was the beginning.
Still the rule today, as when Nick Bosa is called for roughing the passer because he sacked Tom Brady. Watch the play, tell me that's roughing.
Who’s here after Brady said it might’ve been a fumble‼️🤣
"You see soccer fans, that is Football!! More action in that video than 4 World Cups combined.".
He finally admitted it was a fumble 😂😂
He thought about passing and then brought the ball back down to his body, got hit, FUMBLE!!!!!!!!
Gruden still rocking the visor no matter what
And ppl say the NFL could never be fixed😂😂😂
the tuck rule was a rule years before hand, nice try buddy
Anyone else here from the tiktok Tom Brady posted saying this was a fumble? 😭
I don't blame brady for this play he did what you would want your QB to do and he just knows the rules of the NFL this is coming from a Jets fan Btw
Niners fan here. Hate the Raiders with a passion, but they were robbed.
I respect you for being honest 👊
@@BeeLeeBeats its because of battle of the bay but no more (sad face)
Don't bother complaining. The Patriots won and the rest is history. What happened happened. Complaining ain't gonna change shit.
UA-cam Commenter funny Pats fans still complaining about the Super Bowl must be a double standard or something
...ese fue balon suelto... sin lugar a dudas!!!
This was the start of the patriots 'dynasty'. If they would have lost this game and the Raiders win the Superbowl we would be talking about the start of a Raiders dynasty. Worst call in modern sports history.
Wow the favorable ref'ing goes all the way back to the beginning!
POV: Tom Brady said this was a fumble on tiktok.
Charles Woodson just tweeted now he misses a FG in the snow lol
Tuck rule didn't apply. The arm wasn't going forward; he was moving the ball towards his body like he was going to run with it.
Been saying that for years. Th debate went on for years and years whether or nro was a fair rule but almost nobody said that in this case didnt apply.
David Hogg
The tuck rule did apply, you need to watch the video starting from 1:08 to the end. The patriots clearly got the football back, so it could not have been a fumble. If it was a fumble, it would have been ruled a fumble and Oakland would have gotten the ball.
Daniel
You should watch the video from 1:14 to 1:20. That should clear up your misunderstanding of the play. You can disagree with the call, but you're ignoring reality if you do that.
One of the most clutch kicks in NFL history: 45-yarder in a blizzard. If you miss, you lose the game. Vinatieri the GOAT
Whose here because of the saints no call?
My dad is a raiders fan and he still talks about this game. I wasn’t even born when this game happened but apparently he was so mad he broke the tv remote.
His anger is justified
The game that changed the nfl for the next 20 years
Here come Patriot bandwagoners to talk about how great their team is and how they've never cheated and complain about "butthurt people"...
I just come to watch highlights, and before you reply, yes I know I'm a "bandwagon" fan, and yes 18-1 and of course I know, I'm part of a shitty fan base