Hades 2's Visual Design Spoils the Story

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  • Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
  • This video covers “Hades 2” This video will interest you if you enjoy the channels “Haelian” and “Retromation” This video covers a similar topic to The video on the channel Retromation “INCREDIBLE Sequel to the Godlike Roguelite! | Let's Try Hades II” This video also covers a similar topic to the video “Hades 2 Gameplay and First Impressions!!! | Haelian” By the channel “Haelian”
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  • @Ocean_Man205
    @Ocean_Man205 19 днів тому +52

    Nobody going to talk about how the symbol on the obols changed to an hourglass signifying that chronos is the ruler of the underworld now? Since things stayed the same in that aspect in Hades 1 throughout the entire story, I think we can expect chronos to remain in control or at least not die.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  19 днів тому +8

      That's a really interesting point!

    • @generalhorse493
      @generalhorse493 18 днів тому +10

      Still haven’t beaten the chronus boss fight yet.
      My working theory remains we as Melonie must get Chronis into a pocket dimension or time loop and re go down to kill him forever.
      Like how Sisyphus kept escaping death until he was forced to keep pushing that boulder up a hill that always rolled down before the top, thereby ensuring he could never escape death again.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  17 днів тому +3

      Could be!

  • @xio8485
    @xio8485 25 днів тому +48

    TL;DW Zagreus is Kratos, Melinoe is Sailor Moon. Love your video BTW!

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  25 днів тому +6

      Absolutely incredible analysis 🤣 Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Did_No_Wrong
    @Did_No_Wrong 17 днів тому +12

    So this is an interesting story beat, but Chronos Implies in a flashback to Hades that Zagreus was the one who rebuilt Chronos by accident because he performed the blood sacrifice rituals on his weapons with the Titans Blood essentially piecing Chronos blood back together without realizing it.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  16 днів тому +4

      That's really interesting, I haven't gotten to that part yet!

  • @hazekaze
    @hazekaze 27 днів тому +76

    I saw some of her interactions with other characters and I can feel that she lacks a sense of pride and confidence.
    Zagreus will always taunt about how he will definitely beat his opponent, regardless of the outcome, while Melinoe lacks that and is extremely humble to everyone she interacts with.
    Skelly/General Schelemeus is also put in a different position within this game, which might reflect how the character sees themselves and the others. Skelly in first game feels like a lowly crazy skeleton servant, while General Schelemeus is straight up a general. They both serve the same purpose (our punching bag) but how we, the player, perceive him is completely different in these two games.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  27 днів тому +20

      I love what you're saying and great point on Skelly. Melinoe is surrounded by generals, honestly. They're all trying to direct her to do something but...is that what she wants? She seems to have no sense of individuality, being the exact opposite of her older brother.

  • @Hisokaxchrollo
    @Hisokaxchrollo Місяць тому +38

    I didn’t expect you to use her accessories like her moon necklace for your argument, that was pretty interesting and cool

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  Місяць тому +4

      Thanks, I think it was very clever of their team! There's a lot of talent built up at Supergiant and the full release is sure to be filled with fantastic details like that.

  • @FelipeSilva-to5se
    @FelipeSilva-to5se 28 днів тому +26

    I would expand that line of thinking even towards the crafting system, where in hades 1 we have the cronstuctors of the underworld and the resources whe gather were gems, diamonds, stones, glass, jewels, gold things that were heavy, sharp, strong made to be resistent and durable just like zagreus wanted his family to become, and in hades 2 melinoe colects seeds, plants, earth and dirt, and even the stones that we collect are moonstones who are not sharp or heavy but actually have a soft and light appearence. I think that also ties to the fact that this is a game who is trying to get more in touch with feminine energy, witchcraft, sisterhood and motherhood with hecate, selene, melinoe and artemis all being this kinda of coven each representing one aspect of the moon and this shows how i think the game will makes us start with a mental seting of killing and slaying but actually we will end up making terms with it, making bonds with the enemy because you know what they say in the trailer "Time can not be stopped" but it can become your ally...

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  28 днів тому +8

      OoooooOOooOOoooohhhh! I love this! Lots of fantastic and interesting things I hadn't even considered. Thank you so much for sharing and I think you're dead on the money.

    • @EG-hy9mv
      @EG-hy9mv 22 дні тому +3

      There's a poem by Pindar that features Cronus ruling over the Isles of The Blessed

  • @CoCaptainAwesome
    @CoCaptainAwesome 28 днів тому +18

    Really interesting theory. I wonder what the post-game gameplay loop will/would be considering in Hades 1 you can still play a save file after beating the story.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  27 днів тому +4

      For real though. With time being such a large thematic element they could really take it any number of directions.

  • @belindaluna2067
    @belindaluna2067 15 днів тому +2

    Mel looks like she'll be breaking curses. She employs magic to allow her (and theoretically, her father and brother) access to the surface, and she becomes familiar with Arachne and Echo, two of the most famous cursed figures in the original mythology.
    Given that Chronos can shunt her around in time and cannot (and possibly should not) be permanently beaten, I wonder if her victory won't be in winning a fight, but undoing a curse, a spell, or a snarl of time.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  15 днів тому

      It very well could be! Curious to keep playing more and seeing where it goes!

  • @Ex.zed.
    @Ex.zed. 29 днів тому +24

    Cool mental gymnastics!

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  29 днів тому +4

      Hah! It could be! But even if it's NOT the intention of Supergiant, I think it's a powerful thought experiment to learn how we COULD build things like this intentionally in our own games 😁

    • @pulsar9537
      @pulsar9537 2 дні тому

      Zoomer brain detected 🤓

  • @xxxeviethegachagirlxxx4800
    @xxxeviethegachagirlxxx4800 24 дні тому +10

    What if in at the end of the game Melinoë won't be able to kill Chronos because that would come with major consequence? In the trailer Hades said that Chronos isn't just some mere Titan and that he is time itself. So what if instead of killing him Melinoë has strip him of his powers to either trap him again or perhaps make him reconcile with Hades, Poseidon and Zeus? There is actually a part in mythology that said Zeus freed his Father and reconciled with him leading to Chronos becoming the king of Elysium.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  24 дні тому +4

      I think it's going to be more of the latter. It would thematically echo zagreus's story of bringing together family instead of tearing it apart but from the opposite direction.

  • @darumathefactory
    @darumathefactory 13 днів тому +1

    Oh 2 is out already. I need to finish playing the 1st

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  11 днів тому

      You should, 2 is soooooo good! 1 was amazing as well. I nearly got the full ending on that one before carpal tunnel forced me to stop and then I just...lost momentum haha.

  • @maro4324
    @maro4324 Місяць тому +8

    Really great video, I think there is also something to be said about how the new character art for the Gods says something about the story too!!

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks, and I absolutely agree! It's abundantly clear that they are pouring in so much passion and attention for detail to shift the tone from Zagreus' story to Melinoe's

  • @brianyang1151
    @brianyang1151 17 днів тому +1

    What about potential weapon aspects? Zagreus ends up following in the flawed footsteps of the heroes the aspects are named after.

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  17 днів тому +1

      That's an interesting point! I've heard people talking about weapon aspects a lot on Reddit but I admit I haven't made it to that part of 2 yet. Though Nemesis sure is interesting with the stygian blade.

  • @aspenlog7484
    @aspenlog7484 28 днів тому +5

    What is bro yappin about. Love this video

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  27 днів тому +2

      Haha, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching!

  • @ToastyStudios-sb6rh
    @ToastyStudios-sb6rh Місяць тому +7

    We've found the newest MatPat!!

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  Місяць тому +1

      None can replace him, but I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @darkelectronicmusic
    @darkelectronicmusic 15 днів тому

    Found your channel on reddit. Good video

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  15 днів тому +1

      Thanks so much! I appreciate you sounding off 👏

  • @LPMaxwell
    @LPMaxwell 29 днів тому +7

    Bro has already finished the game before it came out

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  29 днів тому

      Can't wait for the full release to prove me dead wrong in really interesting ways 😂

  • @sunmazu3470
    @sunmazu3470 15 днів тому

    what's the music in the end?

    • @foxhollowgames
      @foxhollowgames  15 днів тому

      “Hades - Gates of Hell” and “Hades - On the Coast”

  • @16lycurgus
    @16lycurgus Місяць тому +3

    Great analysis! Much to learn here.

  • @Skyrimbekleyenadam
    @Skyrimbekleyenadam 27 днів тому +2

    wait melinoe isnt zagreus's sister ?!