Very sorry for the weird voice! The cold will pass soon I'm sure Check out the wavedash guide here and enjoy orange photo filter TMM! ua-cam.com/video/u-ap5eVWPlw/v-deo.html
Hey mainman im new to the game and i think that my execution is pretty good, but i dont know jack shit about the fundamental and the neutral game... how do i improve?
As good as your waveuwavu is, I gotta say that JDCR makes yours look kinda slow. My point is that there are so many levels to movement in tekken unlike any other game.
aztekenen1 Hitbox are the controllers that have arrow keys instead of the joystick. i play stick and if for whatever reason i am using a pad, i can wavedash and electric quite consistently. it’s practice, my friend
@@ning3669 i find it a bother at times lol. doing it is not hard, but doing it long and often enough is where it becomes a massive pain. consistency is a world of *BLERGH*
aztekenen1 as a pad Mishima player who’s won several local tournaments in my scene, I’ve just recently transitioned to stick. Haven’t played online in 2 months because I’m focused on learning stick before I do that. I can tell you stick is much harder than pad to learn on, but it feels like high level execution is more consistent to me when I’ve warmed up on stick lately even compared to over 2 decades with pad vs 2 months with stock. Your wrists are going to give you more control in the end over your thumbs. So I highly recommend going over to stick if you have $200 laying around and are dedicated enough. You’ll end up dropping multi electrics in combos and wave dash cancels much less often.
I often take joy turning on subtitles on a mainman video and embrace yet another brilliant name UA-cam generator comes up with during intro. It's mayne mance we this time around.
This was super helpful! Thanks mainman! Could you do this for the pewgf? I just can’t seem to pull of the inputs. I need to see how it’s done by hand, as you’ve demonstrated for crouch dashing and ewgf here.
I feel my thumbs fatigue way sooner than the arms of a stick player. I can do a really good wavedash for 10 seconds max before my thumb slows down. So a stick, although difficult for me to learn, will unlock my full potential.
Finally got myself an arcade stick (mayflash f300). It's arriving in 2 days and I can't wait to do my electrics on that since my thumbs starts hating me.
at 9:38, ws out of crouch dash... just cd into neutral. but then at 13:25 "now we're gonna look at the most difficult, and that is into ws" which is cd, quick neutral, back. what's the distinction between the two different cancel into ws? also, would love tips on how to do ewgf into dewgf. I used to be able to do this years ago when I played tekken 5... I think you buffer the f somehow? is that right?
Hey @TMM one of your stream Lurkers here i always wanted to see a Geese guide from you with the same arcade stick camera setup would appreciate it thanks.
Would you mind demonstrating how to do a true Korean Backdash? I can do the shortcut version, but I'm not show how I should be doing a KBD with characters that have sways.
I pretty much mastered EWGF on dualshock (been practicing since ttt2), how long do you think it will take me to practice it on the stick? I've been meaning to buy stick for a long time
Depending of the way you used to play in the control, the adaption can be very easy, i recomend you doing so, find way easier to dash / defend using the stick.
I did in about two months, 6 weeks actually. I wasnt any good on pad with mishimas so i played non mishimas. But i love the character designs on jin and djin so i bought the razor panthera in Jan 2019. And its(tekken7) practically my first tekken. My first tekken was tekken 3 which i played at the arcades with Jin but not so much.
Oh sorry i was talking about everything related to wavedash so electrics, wave dash cancels and wave dash itself. I just saw that your were only asking about electric. I did it in 2 or 3 days max.
the only reason why i am considering switching to stick is the pad on the controller tend to get worn out pretty quickly with all the quarter circles and whatnot. i've never tried the stick so this will be a challenge for me. should i make a switch or just stay with the controller ?
I had a easier time doing wave dashes at player 1 than I do with player 2 using a standard keyboard. It would be cool if someone can hand demo wave dash and back dash via keyboard/hitbox.
Just got the arcade stick today, I can perfectly do wavedash on pad, but my question is one u go for df do u tap it or go fully into that angle, please someone reply to me
it's the same way you cancel wavedash into any other ws move. start the couch dash and immediately go straight to b+1,2. the timing is a little tricky cause you have to let the wavedash ride out a bit before you go to the b+1, but not for too long
Nice video MM So im a tekken newbie what does it mean if I occasionally get b2 while trying to crouch dash into ws2? I didnt even know you could do that tbh I thought you had to go into fc from the crouch dash then ws2 lol.
TMR-YazanNJR it sucks, you can’t change the lever. If you only want to customize the artwork it’s good. Also the buttons are my fav they’re mechanical buttons
Hasan Al-Dabagh the problem is that if i want to buy an arcade stick online it will cost me too much duo to customs and shipping but this one is already available in a local store arcade sticks are not really popular in my country thats why you really see a store selling one
Is the panthera evo any good? I've been reading bad reviews for it online about the razer mechanical switches and being uncapable of changing the buttons, but than again the main man is using it. In my country the panthera evo comes for cheap but i'm trying to get a stick that will last me a long time.
get Qanba Obsidian or Etokki Omni if you want a korean lever. Like you said, Panthera has alot of issues apparently. Obsidian for best price or Omni for best quality.
@@shutup11337 I know about the obsidian and would much rather get that, but from amazon to my country it's 100 usd in VAT and delivery so i have to pay 300 usd for a qanba when in us it's just 159 usd and free delivery. I can either get a mayflash f500 elite with sanwa parts for cheap off amazon or a panthera evo from my country
1 left punch, 2 right punch, 3 left kick, 4 right kick, directions are pretty straightforward and are based on how are you facing your opponent, so down 2 means combining two inputs together, the difference lies in notation though as for example d2 and d+2 seems the same but d+2 means pressing both inputs at the exact same time, while d2 means you can hold d and then press 2, best example is notation for wgf and ewgf, look it up and you will understand, damn this is a long comment
Based on Playstation buttons: 1 = Square 2 = Triangle 3 = X 4 = Circle This is universal for all consoles/PC. Much easier for people to understand across the board, it applies to all fighting games.
@@scrye113 Hexagons don't offer an advantage for Tekken. Free movement and precise control is more rewarding. Octacon would get in the way and feel notchy when playing. For example when you do ➡️⭐️⬇️↘️ it's easy to just slide the stick along the bottom to the corner rather than on a hexagon have it notch in the ⬇️ direction and then slide it uphill to the next notch. The spring, pivot feel and ball top/bat top preferences makes the difference. It's all about preference but it thing most pros use square gates and Korean sticks have circle gates i think. That said Nobi is releasing a new joystick through Seimitsu that has something between a square and a hex gate.
Alot of people can wavedash on dualshock/pad, if you practice you will discover that wavedashing on pad is actually pretty easy. I say so from my own experience playing kazuyer.
Practice like with any other controller, I'm pure shit on stick, but have been playing Tekken on pad since 98 so it has become natural. ALSO and VERY important, PS pads sadly have declined in quality, if you could get your hands on some ps1 pad or DualShock 1 things suddenly become a lot more better, trust me.
@@julianezequielpdg7347 I'm playing Tekken since circa the 2000's and only using PS Sony Dualshock and since then I got used on it I tried other devices(pad,hitbox,mixbox..) but couldn't get used to them...
Very sorry for the weird voice! The cold will pass soon I'm sure
Check out the wavedash guide here and enjoy orange photo filter TMM! ua-cam.com/video/u-ap5eVWPlw/v-deo.html
Hey mainman im new to the game and i think that my execution is pretty good, but i dont know jack shit about the fundamental and the neutral game... how do i improve?
Its ok bro
As good as your waveuwavu is, I gotta say that JDCR makes yours look kinda slow. My point is that there are so many levels to movement in tekken unlike any other game.
hope you get good soon! *cross arms* MÄÄÄSKUH!
Dude that's a freaking awesome arcade stick, looks like Mishima sign and with snakes.
4:07
Speed one (no cracking)
Speed two (cracks a little bit)
sp33d thr33 (MLG FALCETO)
i'm late but this is so funny lmao
@@zelkraps5398 you just lack sp33d
I'm even later this is still funny
@@supersaiyankrillin1237 nvm I was just too ahead of my time, thanks tho
LMAO😭😭😭
Its not a weird voice. Thats what real men sound like when they reach peak masculinity. Only mainman can get that voice.
Dont touch my kokoro pls that voice is true MASKU
@@samba4065 the kazumi chick ?
look up corpse husband on yt and see what a true voice sounds like
MASKUlinity*
@@kennecrx4373 the voice of a overrated and sad man that is losing his voice
6:00 when your back is itchy lol
TheMainManWheeze
TheMainManVoiceJeez
Mainman drops one electric: oh no
Me hits 1 electric on accident: i am god
15:24 litteraly the best part I love this man
*sees mainman show how to move like a high level mishima*
*sees he's on stick*
*cries in pad*
aztekenen1 Hitbox are the controllers that have arrow keys instead of the joystick. i play stick and if for whatever reason i am using a pad, i can wavedash and electric quite consistently. it’s practice, my friend
@@ning3669 i find it a bother at times lol. doing it is not hard, but doing it long and often enough is where it becomes a massive pain. consistency is a world of *BLERGH*
#stoppadneglect
Coming from someone who’s played every single major controller in tekken, pad isn’t any harder. It’s just you
aztekenen1 as a pad Mishima player who’s won several local tournaments in my scene, I’ve just recently transitioned to stick. Haven’t played online in 2 months because I’m focused on learning stick before I do that.
I can tell you stick is much harder than pad to learn on, but it feels like high level execution is more consistent to me when I’ve warmed up on stick lately even compared to over 2 decades with pad vs 2 months with stock. Your wrists are going to give you more control in the end over your thumbs. So I highly recommend going over to stick if you have $200 laying around and are dedicated enough. You’ll end up dropping multi electrics in combos and wave dash cancels much less often.
I got my very first arcade stick a week ago, this video is PURE GOLD. Thanks Mainman!
The same , but the video came out a bit late for me , because i learnt them already lol.
Man i love it when you compliment yourself and then laugh a bit 😂
3:10 in slow MoOOtion...
im sorry get well soon daddyswe.
TMM: remember the steps?
Me: uhh uhh uhh
Thank you for the stress test of my panthera evo
This is great, a bit of consolidation of most of the old vids. This is surely beneficial to Mishima players.
"Harder than you FFFFink..."
Lmaoo
I often take joy turning on subtitles on a mainman video and embrace yet another brilliant name UA-cam generator comes up with during intro.
It's mayne mance we this time around.
For some reason, this video actually made me like MainMan alot more...
4:12 „Speed 3🥴🥺“
I didn't know you needed a neutral before going into back for the ws2. Suddenly it makes alooot more sense for why its been so inconsistent for me.
Thanks for the hand demonstration bro.. Really helps for beginers
Speed 1 : normal voice
Speed 2 : slightly normal
Speed 3 : Yoda's voice 😂😂😂
7:45 omg no UA-cam curse!?
the moment you realize you've been doing mishima movements your entire life....
The voice crack makes this a million times better
Fr lol
We don't deserve this man, rest my guy
His voice had me dying the whole video lol
I need some advice with the wavedash:
Was it "Uh, uh, uh"?
Or was it "Ugh, ugh, ugh"?
This was super helpful! Thanks mainman! Could you do this for the pewgf? I just can’t seem to pull of the inputs. I need to see how it’s done by hand, as you’ve demonstrated for crouch dashing and ewgf here.
I feel my thumbs fatigue way sooner than the arms of a stick player. I can do a really good wavedash for 10 seconds max before my thumb slows down. So a stick, although difficult for me to learn, will unlock my full potential.
Did you get a stick?
@@kaua7561I’m 2 years in after transitioning from pad and will never go back
Get well bro ! As always thanks for the content
hope you feel better!
Thank you so much for the upload I need to up my game with this
Old vis as it is can u do a beginner to arcade stick video? And stick top preferences?
Good to see the good execution back on the left hand. So many years spent on clean inputs , no keyboard arcade stick ⚡️
MainMan shows off his Tekken hand job techniques.
simple tip for pad, kbd on p1 side will be wd on p2 side and vice versa
Finally got myself an arcade stick (mayflash f300). It's arriving in 2 days and I can't wait to do my electrics on that since my thumbs starts hating me.
He is a sick mishima player...
Get well soon dad, we love ya
Hope you feel better soon TMM
Thank you very much TMM, ur the best!!
at 9:38, ws out of crouch dash... just cd into neutral. but then at 13:25 "now we're gonna look at the most difficult, and that is into ws" which is cd, quick neutral, back.
what's the distinction between the two different cancel into ws?
also, would love tips on how to do ewgf into dewgf. I used to be able to do this years ago when I played tekken 5... I think you buffer the f somehow? is that right?
Best grip for p1 hands down!, please show us how you side step left on p1 side can feel awkward at times
When did you get the new panthera evo? Did the original panthera break or you just wanted to get the new one? And how can you compare the two?
Hope you get well soon champ! Masku
Hey @TMM one of your stream Lurkers here i always wanted to see a Geese guide from you with the same arcade stick camera setup would appreciate it thanks.
bro dropped an octave per electric
The smoother wave dash is the faster wave dash. Whenever I about it think too much, go too fast or not warm-up; my wave dash is crap.
Would you mind demonstrating how to do a true Korean Backdash? I can do the shortcut version, but I'm not show how I should be doing a KBD with characters that have sways.
Wait until people start using the Crossup lmao
Pretty bummed out. Got myself an Etokki Omni a few months back and just found out about the Crossup. Might sell my Omni tbh.
I pretty much mastered EWGF on dualshock (been practicing since ttt2), how long do you think it will take
me to practice it on the stick? I've been meaning to buy stick for a long time
Depending of the way you used to play in the control, the adaption can be very easy, i recomend you doing so, find way easier to dash / defend using the stick.
I have been mastering it on the Xbox 360 pad's analog stick on both sides it's hard to do but once you get it you can do it consistantly
Doing it since Tekken 6
I did in about two months, 6 weeks actually. I wasnt any good on pad with mishimas so i played non mishimas. But i love the character designs on jin
and djin so i bought the razor panthera in Jan 2019. And its(tekken7) practically my first tekken. My first tekken was tekken 3 which i played at the arcades with Jin but not so much.
Oh sorry i was talking about everything related to wavedash so electrics, wave dash cancels and wave dash itself. I just saw that your were only asking about electric. I did it in 2 or 3 days max.
Love u bro finally learn wavedash thanks alot bro
I think i broke my arcade stick
TheVoiveGoneSWE
Any vids on side stepping in succession quickly?
the only reason why i am considering switching to stick is the pad on the controller tend to get worn out pretty quickly with all the quarter circles and whatnot. i've never tried the stick so this will be a challenge for me.
should i make a switch or just stay with the controller ?
I always had the same thought ,here i am now using the obsidian with Korean lever now
Make a backdash tutorial
I had a easier time doing wave dashes at player 1 than I do with player 2 using a standard keyboard. It would be cool if someone can hand demo wave dash and back dash via keyboard/hitbox.
I can
ua-cam.com/video/RGcgx9YqynQ/v-deo.html this is video is old but it still has good info.
i am practising my ah ah ah. Ty mainman :)
Thank you so much coming from a bad kazuya player
Bro where do u have a vid on backdash?
do u know where i can buy this razer panthera? coz its really rare for now
Hi i want to know where you buy you’re stick or you go on amazon ?
Just got the arcade stick today, I can perfectly do wavedash on pad, but my question is one u go for df do u tap it or go fully into that angle, please someone reply to me
Do you use any mods for your stick @themainmanswe?
Hey TMM, I’m a Jin/Devil player and I was wondering if you could make a video on how to cancel a wavedash into WS 1,2 with Jin?
it's the same way you cancel wavedash into any other ws move. start the couch dash and immediately go straight to b+1,2. the timing is a little tricky cause you have to let the wavedash ride out a bit before you go to the b+1, but not for too long
Ooh I’ll try that. The timing is a little tricky but I’ll practice it. Thanks for the tip.
I would love a link to a good stick. I want to get off controller in the near future
i’ve had multiple people/friends tell me the hori rap4 is nice (although it is about $140)
Mainman what gate do you feel it better square or octagonal
mainman has the panthera evo? what happened to the OG panthera
Nice video MM
So im a tekken newbie what does it mean if I occasionally get b2 while trying to crouch dash into ws2?
I didnt even know you could do that tbh I thought you had to go into fc from the crouch dash then ws2 lol.
I can’t explain it but you have to work on your timing you have to press back and hold into 2 but don’t hold for too long try to figure out the timing
@@slimzaki242 ok I assumed it was just a timing thing so good to know. Thanks man
Alter Ace it about the timing between back and 2
When DJs leg twitches is when you input b2 for the iWS2 look at Qudans wave dash tutorial
when im doing ws2 I do F QCF F D~B2
Is this standard Sanwa JLF with square gate?
The comments really doing my man dirty cuz of his voice tho
Best choice to make a very talky video when being on the peak of sickness.
Get well soon lad ^^
pLAYER 1 IS JUST SOOOO FREAKING HARD TO LEARN
Can anyone tell me how he uses the tekken 4 health bars??
TheMainGrandpaSWE
Is Kazuyas Electric without the down input better/faster than the other electrics?
Or is it just a matter of taste?
It is faster as it’s a faster input and is what you want to use for perfect electrics
13f instead of 14f. MainMan explains it in his Electric Guide: ua-cam.com/video/DQ45XhqFgyU/v-deo.html
Is this the razer panthera evo? Is it good? Cuz I've been thinking to switch to a stick
TMR-YazanNJR it sucks, you can’t change the lever. If you only want to customize the artwork it’s good. Also the buttons are my fav they’re mechanical buttons
Hasan Al-Dabagh the problem is that if i want to buy an arcade stick online it will cost me too much duo to customs and shipping but this one is already available in a local store arcade sticks are not really popular in my country thats why you really see a store selling one
@@snorelax5271 I also got it due to a great local deal. Honestly it's a great stick unless you're wanting to use a korean lever
Is there some cool technique to do this on a keyboard?
Bryan taunt forward speed player2 hand tutorial help me! please can you make vidoe
Uh oh ah Easy wave dash.
Hope u get better mainman
Why charecters like negan and geece and nina and others blocked ? Plz some one tell me
Most impressive.
What tension does ur jlf have?
What’s up guys TheBatmanSwe here.
Is the panthera evo any good? I've been reading bad reviews for it online about the razer mechanical switches and being uncapable of changing the buttons, but than again the main man is using it. In my country the panthera evo comes for cheap but i'm trying to get a stick that will last me a long time.
get Qanba Obsidian or Etokki Omni if you want a korean lever. Like you said, Panthera has alot of issues apparently. Obsidian for best price or Omni for best quality.
@@shutup11337 I know about the obsidian and would much rather get that, but from amazon to my country it's 100 usd in VAT and delivery so i have to pay 300 usd for a qanba when in us it's just 159 usd and free delivery. I can either get a mayflash f500 elite with sanwa parts for cheap off amazon or a panthera evo from my country
@@dannskxos I like my mayflash. I did put a sanwa joystick in it after a while however.
Do you recommend I use metronome doing the crouch dash "uh uh uh"? Slow speed then gradually increase speed as you've mastered the slower tempo?
I don't get this term...
Down 2
Forward 1
What does this mean?
1 left punch, 2 right punch, 3 left kick, 4 right kick, directions are pretty straightforward and are based on how are you facing your opponent, so down 2 means combining two inputs together, the difference lies in notation though as for example d2 and d+2 seems the same but d+2 means pressing both inputs at the exact same time, while d2 means you can hold d and then press 2, best example is notation for wgf and ewgf, look it up and you will understand, damn this is a long comment
Based on Playstation buttons:
1 = Square
2 = Triangle
3 = X
4 = Circle
This is universal for all consoles/PC. Much easier for people to understand across the board, it applies to all fighting games.
is he running a hex gate or square gate on his stick?
he’s mentioned that the only thing he does is stretch the spring in his sticks so it’s stiffer, so i’m assuming he still has the default square gate
Square gate is a default, not many people go hex
ty for reply guys i just thought more ppl would go with hex for tekken
@@scrye113 Hexagons don't offer an advantage for Tekken. Free movement and precise control is more rewarding. Octacon would get in the way and feel notchy when playing.
For example when you do ➡️⭐️⬇️↘️ it's easy to just slide the stick along the bottom to the corner rather than on a hexagon have it notch in the ⬇️ direction and then slide it uphill to the next notch.
The spring, pivot feel and ball top/bat top preferences makes the difference.
It's all about preference but it thing most pros use square gates and Korean sticks have circle gates i think.
That said Nobi is releasing a new joystick through Seimitsu that has something between a square and a hex gate.
what stick is that?
Beutiful.. Im'a buy an arcade stick now, just for Tekken
Can you show this on the pad too?
Bruce Wayne u cant play mishima on pad honestly
Dont listen to that dude. I busted hella good players as a pad kazuya
Wavedash on Dualshock is nearly impossible to do
Alot of people can wavedash on dualshock/pad, if you practice you will discover that wavedashing on pad is actually pretty easy. I say so from my own experience playing kazuyer.
Practice like with any other controller, I'm pure shit on stick, but have been playing Tekken on pad since 98 so it has become natural. ALSO and VERY important, PS pads sadly have declined in quality, if you could get your hands on some ps1 pad or DualShock 1 things suddenly become a lot more better, trust me.
It is more hard on an Xbox controller but still possible
@@julianezequielpdg7347
I'm playing Tekken since circa the 2000's and only using PS Sony Dualshock and since then I got used on it
I tried other devices(pad,hitbox,mixbox..) but couldn't get used to them...
I actually find it easier on pad but I did start off pad before playing stick
I’m trying to get an Etokki
Any1 got any tips on how to do electro on a keyboard? TY
Is this arcade stick good?
Yup
what lever?
thanks for showing dashing on d-pad oh wait
Pointless
yes indeed