I want to address something from a comment because I think it's an important point: When I'm discussing the possibility of CC's bite, I'm ignoring the date of MCI 1985, which completely disproves the idea of Bite of '83 coming 2nd. I have reasons for this, but ultimately I probably should've left that out of the video since all it does is create confusion, especially for new people who don't know about those dates. Moving forward, I will hold to MCI 1985 unless I am specifically attempting to prove otherwise. Thank you for pointing out things I've overlooked or letting my "version of events" to supersede what is widely accepted as canon. If I'm going to theorize I ought to be more careful. ♥️
Nervous can ask you something But Unfortunately for England London Are my country region and such As our real life country it's Just a only Personal Business 👍
These region and country don't even fit with FNAF Game unfortunately I'm not interested in FNAF Games aren't Perfect Lore either As well. I know because of my descendants region alone But don't Get Me started with the Region does Have Perkins English As well. Personal Business
5:59 holy shit. Charlie in the Silver Eyes book said "we never talk about him" not verbatim but it'd make sense if Henry said in fnaf 6 "a wound first inflicted on me" would be in reference to Sammy if he wasn't able to bring himself to actually address it.
isnt “a wound first inflicted on me” meant to reflect the fact William straight up, no motive, all 3 of his children still alive, just kills charlie outside the restaurant?
If he's adopted from Henry, there's also a chance Michael just didn't know the full extent of what was going on or fell into the rumors he was hearing which fed into how he treated the crying child. Especially if his father's frustration with Henry bled onto Michael at a young age he could have unintentionally copied that but in a more child like way. Also gives more comparisons between Michael and William. A man so cruel that he Let's his jealousy and anger lead him to kill, only to continue to do so for his own wants. And a son who managed to avoid the same path the moment he accidentally killed,actually feeling guilt in a way his father never did. Maybe even wishing that he could had more time to actually be a brother to CC. Could also be a chance of in the games there not being really a Mrs.Emily(either she died or left before everything went down) So after Charlie's death there wasn't really anyone to actually take care of CC cause how Henry gets. So he got adopted into the Afton family. Maybe Michael feeling jealous, not understanding his father was messing with and experimenting with CC and thought he was getting extra attention. I always love to explore siblings and their relationships, and really even with CC being biologically an Afton there's room to say that Michael could've been Jealous or just reflecting what he seen from his father. Also, i actually do think there's a chance that William is just...a bad guy. That something in him is self centered and just likes to push and experiment and abuse things for his own betterment. Honestly him having a sob story of wanting to put his son back together does nothing for me narratively we seen him not want Elizabeth to mess with the kidnapping animatronics but there's always that chance he might've just been a "girl dad" and didn't care as much for his sons or just didn't want Elizabeth to mess with anything. I mean Henry is also seen as a kind of "girl dad" so it is possible. I mean the only canon interaction we really know of with his sons is that he might've been spying on the CC, he literally had him have his birthday party on a place he was scared of and that he sent Michael to check on Elizabeth/ baby and do all that. It's also interesting to think of similarities between Henry and William as opposing forces, representing two versions of neglecting parents. One who truly doesn't mean ill, and cares in some way. But he did fail as a father, Charlie wasn't really his fault, he couldn't control that though he could've been better attentive to her. But he does give up caring for his son(if CC is his son in this idea-), which leaves to his son being in a household he's not safe in. Even if he never died he would grow up with a father who would've continued to experiment and use him. Michael might get a chance to change, it's hard to tell how he could been effected if he didn't witness the '83 bite. But CC would've still been in a household where he wasn't truly safe or loved. Idk,i do wish there was more exploration on characters and their dynamics in some fashion. Just kind of gives a bit more life to the world and story ^^
YES about your 2nd paragraph. I can 100% see Henry getting absorbed in grief over Charlie and CC getting neglected as a consequence. That's a part of my deeper theory on Henry tbh, but I am still researching for it. I also agree with your point about William sob story thing. His character simply being driven by progress, greed, etc. is a lot more compelling to me considering how much of Fazbear Entertainment seems to be profit driven regardless of the consequences. The duality of Henry/William is soooo interesting when you, exactly as you say, examine their similarities. I could even see a world where Henry saw so much of himself in William that it scared him away from his passion of making animatronics entirely. It's clear the character feels a lot of guilt over how his actions seem to have inadvertently caused so much pain.
The “put back together” speech is a thorn in my theory side, too. If it is Afton saying it, then CC can’t be the first victim because “put back together” implies knowledge of remnant. But if we’ve been getting such a key element of the entire skeleton of the story wrong, surely there would have been more direct corrections like we were given for Charlie. I have a habit of giving Scott more credit than he deserves, though.
There have been a number of times where I've sort of thrown my hands up and said "maybe Scott just isn't a great storyteller" Like he built a great world but omg some of these pieces should not be so hard to put together.
Just throwing my random thoughts in here! I think it makes sense William saying that even without Remnant knowledge. He's in shock, he's probably a narcissist, he's in denial - maybe he doesn't even think he can but he says it to his dying kid, half a reassurance and half a refusal of the truth. Then the remnant happens and it goes literal hahaha
The Fredbear at the end is not necessarily William Fnaf world kind of implies Psychic friend Fredbear is a paranormal entity such as the puppet or Golden Freddy
tbh I could see William somehow taking in Henry's son, but again why would he kill Charlie then have her brother alive. Only if he actually kept him alive as subject for illusion experiments. And after the bite CC could've been brought back by Charlie (his "sister"). As for Henry going to jail because he's a suspect, it's pretty believable
Another thing you should check out is the lawsuits from pizza sim, some seem like a clear joke, but one literally sugests the sister location was underneath the pizza place all along, i'm just now realizing this, also a lawsuit for a child bit on their frontal lobe, these might be real lawsuits, like real relevent things obviously. Even help wanted suggested there was a lawsuit, did anybody put 2 and 2 together?
@@ShesNervous the most important ones i'm referring to are the animatronic head falling off, the frontal lobe bite, and the kid falling through the floor... i dont think i've seen a single person mention the lawsuits for some reason
This honestly makes so much sense when it comes to Mike's treatment of CC. I know siblings can have a prank relationship, but Mike's scares seem cruel and not good-spirited. Like I don't care how old a kid is, no one is putting their brother in an animatronic's mouth. But if they aren't biologically related and he latches onto that plus Mike channeling his dad, then I can see it.
I’ve thought this too!!! It just seems that Charlie and CC have so many connections. Both being bullied, the connections between fnaf 4 and fnaf 2 (why is tiny toy Chica missing her beak?), security breach with Gregory who is similar to CC and the night marionette stuff EVERYWHERE, and of course the kidnapping
Luv this vid so much (and the blooper at the end; would luv that as an ongoing gag going forward, if you feel like it)! I hadn’t really thought of the adoptee angle for CC. I never tire of seeing all the different ways families can look in beloved stories/media, so I wouldn’t mind it at all if that was the case with the aftons. I would love to know your thoughts on Michael being the CC! Also, how do you feel about modern FNAFs protagonists being these brave kids that come from atypical home/family structures-gregory being homeless, and cassie’s presumably single dad?We’re assuming no robo-kids, ofc! I kinda luv that part of recent fnaf. Historically our protagonists are unnamed younger adults with no telegraphed backstories/personalities so that turn’s been really refreshing! Nothing says drama and intrigue like fazbear ent’s constant child endangerment.
I definitely have plenty of bloopers to share 😂🤦🏻♀️ I love the new game kids which is why I'm so hoping they are not robots I'll not be like SAD if either are bots just like a little disappointed for my own sake.
I think youre correct, though I dont know how William gets crying child. The strongest evidence is the poster (followed by the Immortal and the restless). Crying child is depicted as a golden bear. Henry wears the golden bear costume. William wears Bonnie, while not on the poster directly, is obviously true. Also all the new games constantly point to mci kids being first and charlie last. More to think about.
Imo 1) William kills 5 kids (also maybe see that chika cartoon). 2) Hids in animatronics like a psycho. 3) Investigation with cops 4) Dirt mound in deepwoods
I really like the step-afton take of cc being Henry's unborn son but there just isnt enough evidence to support it in my opinion. The adoption option seems the most likely in my opinion. It also made me think of the idea that midnight motorist could be hinting at it. So basically after Charlie's death Henry becomes an unstable alcoholic, his wife also seemingly uninterested in him anymore (just something I think is true though she could just be watching tv) tells him that their son has had a tough day. Henry heads towards his room , finds it locked, starts yelling and when he checks outside he says "he went to that place again, he will be sorry when he gets back" . This could imply that his son (CC) went to Freddy's which Henry hates after his daughter's death, that's why when he says that place it feels weirdly aggresive. So basically that keeps going on and his wife either leaves or leaves him with the child( this could tie to step-afton) and Henry is deemed unable to keep the custody of the child so William adopts him or marries Henry's wife and her son is adopted into the Afton family. Now this theory is very loose 😅 and I had to look over key details such as, why the midnight motorist game is called later that night in the files implying that its the night of Charlie's death so Henry would not yet be an abusive alcoholic father, what's up with the grave in midnight motorist?, Why does Henry have the same car as William? (My only explanation for this is that either Scott loves purple cars even Jessica from the novel trilogy has one or that it's a company provided car. I remember my parents used to work at a company that provided cars to employees so that they could get to work and go home too. This is still loose evidence as William and Henry are the owners and not employees and I doubt Henry would need a company car anyway since he would be pretty well off and would be able to afford a car), why would Henry not mention CC in his monologue as you said as well. Overall many loose ends but if the theory that CC isnt William's biological son is to be believed I can't help but think that midnight motorist has some connection. Btw sorry for the long comment, also I really liked the video.
I have my own theories on this franchise, but most people think of the as insane or holding no weight. As far as CC being adopted one part of me says yes and the other says no. As an adopted kid myself I look at this from that angle. I didn't have siblings, but I had a lot of family. And while they were caring and nice to me it was an unspoken feeling of "Yes, you're part of the family, but you're not PART of the family." Insinuating that because I was not blood that I was less than to everyone else. I see Michael's behavior as I saw their unspoken behavior. That just because their father said they are brothers doesn't mean Michael believes it or feels a need to be a brother to him. Also I was raised by Boomers who had a very old fashioned view on things. Both of them had mental issues that neither of them wanted to acknowledge, but it didn't stop them from using their abusive and paranoid tactics on me growing up. This is how I see FNAF 4. It's an experiment. A psychological experiment. "Sure, everything is fine. Wait...maybe I should check one last time..." So my view is CC is either adopted or, he is the replacement for Elizabeth, a robot child like Afton tried to make and he is subjecting him to human like situations to test how human like the robot responds to everything. It would also make sense why he says he'll put him back together....again
First of all, I am sorry for the ways you felt alienated in your family. I empathize. Wanted to point out how your final interpretation is something I've actually considered before regarding CC and how he is Afton's attempt to make the "perfect" kid. If you've ever played/heard of Lily's Well, it's that same vibe. "You're broken" refers less to him being injured and more to do with him failing to survive. "You're not right, yet." Would be very tragic but certainly moving from a narrative standpoint.
I would REALLY love to spend more time looking for evidence about the stepdad angle because I do think it would add a layer of scandal and betrayal that would have forced Henry to stop associating with the Aftons altogether. MatPat has talked about Step-Afton in the past and maybe I should link that video as well, but he's focused on Michael being the step kid so the evidence doesn't apply the same way.
Honestly I'm in the same boat as you. I don’t know the big picture, but I think it's interesting to posit William isn't that kid's dad, whether he's another kidnapping victim, Sammy, or someone else entirely. It speaks to his posessive and obsessive nature. Thanks for another great video!
I've never heard these points before. Great video! The only thing is that uhh... ur crazy if u think that BV died after the MCI💀 But everything else was super educational (I especially liked the theory that Henry went on trial n Afton disposed of the bodies during that time period)
Yeah I realized after that I would have to prove v. spirit was not part of MCI /or/ that MCI didn't happen in 1985. Neither is an easy task, but I have thoughts I'm still trying to flesh out. Thank you for the comment!
All of you seem to forget that it’s only a FAN THEORY that the Crying Child is an Afton because the only 3 canon Aftons are William, Michael and Elizabeth.
The supplementary material has been pretty consistent wirh the MCI happening in 1985 and SL doubles down on CC's death happening in 1983 so Psychic Friend Fredbear isnt possessed by the Vengeful Spirit but I do think hes possessed by the Puppet, because i absolutely agree that William is just evil all the way. Even the story where hes being tortured by the Vengeful Spirit goes out of its way to make sure he isnt pitied. Afton is obsessive and egotistical, I genuinely think he killed Charlotte because she was 'getting in the way' of Henry's work by virtue of being a child. Hell Sister Location implies that Psychic Friend Fredbear is mostly William talking and so he knows that Micheal bullies CC and does nothing to stop it, given the fact CC gets locked in the maintenence closet William either did that himself or gave Micheal his keys.
Yeah that's so fair. I appreciate people pointing it out because I should've just said a previous victim of Afton. I often struggle with the 1985 date because of how confusing it is that i'm FNAF 4 there's the talk of how people go missing and the way one of the suits looks stuffed with the hair coming out. It feels so clear that something has happened previously in the timeline, but I really cannot just be out here saying things without better evidence to support it. I really appreciate this comment. It's very well written. Thank you!
I think I found the source you used for this inquiry and I just want to say, 1. Thank you x1000 2. It's so strange that UA-cam initially said I needed to reach 3k hours over 28 days. If the actual qualification is 4k hours over 1 year, I would have happily continued to work towards that goal. Either way, I'll just keep trucking along lol. I genuinely very much appreciate you commenting this though or I'd have spent so long banging my head against a wall trying to figure it out.
Dumb question but doesnt mangle existing with the crying child suggest sister location was before him getting bit, also kind of weird baby opens the face of a suit not used how it was intended to be that also happens to be on camera... to get mike arrested in william's place? Or to get william arrested at mike's expense? was sister location a set up?
Not a dumb question at ALL. I think it's fair evidence. I think the issue is WHO we play as in Sister Location SEEMS to be Michael, who would need to have gotten a bit older before Sister Location happens. It's just weird that there are still employees working there. Sister Location is a game that needs a lot more attention in my opinion.
@@ShesNervous also funtime foxy actually jump scaring us as mike, which kind of makes me think they're replicating whats seen on the monitors maybe, i only say that because he survives it somehow, baby rushing him in a springlock suit right after is weird though, kind of seemed like she was making sure he didnt die before he was in the suit, making sure his face is on camera and he is "saved". The technician points out specifically the scooper is automated, which means it has an ai, i wonder if the blob is cassidys intentions mixed with scooper would explain the weird parallel visual in security breach's "true ending" and the ruin scooper ending
Afton's family shouldn't be allowed to be British English or Perkins English unfortunately Afton family aren't Pretending as Well as my country and such As Scott cawthon said earlier with his comments
Toy's Animatronics counterpart of unwithered animatronics were created by Henry Emily Co CEO company as well as Fazbear's Fright Restaurant Belonged to the Toy's Animatronics counterpart of unwithered animatronics as well.
I want to address something from a comment because I think it's an important point:
When I'm discussing the possibility of CC's bite, I'm ignoring the date of MCI 1985, which completely disproves the idea of Bite of '83 coming 2nd.
I have reasons for this, but ultimately I probably should've left that out of the video since all it does is create confusion, especially for new people who don't know about those dates.
Moving forward, I will hold to MCI 1985 unless I am specifically attempting to prove otherwise.
Thank you for pointing out things I've overlooked or letting my "version of events" to supersede what is widely accepted as canon.
If I'm going to theorize I ought to be more careful. ♥️
Nervous can ask you something But
Unfortunately for England London Are my country region and such As our real life country it's Just a only Personal Business 👍
These region and country don't even fit with FNAF Game unfortunately I'm not interested in FNAF Games aren't Perfect Lore either As well. I know because of my descendants region alone But don't Get Me started with the Region does Have Perkins English As well. Personal Business
Just wanting to say: the SHADE you throw on Fazbear Entertainment for "blood dripping but can't find the missing victims" is excellent
5:59 holy shit. Charlie in the Silver Eyes book said "we never talk about him" not verbatim but it'd make sense if Henry said in fnaf 6 "a wound first inflicted on me" would be in reference to Sammy if he wasn't able to bring himself to actually address it.
But also I've got the belief that Clara is Henry's wife or ex wife and still Aftons mistress
isnt “a wound first inflicted on me” meant to reflect the fact William straight up, no motive, all 3 of his children still alive, just kills charlie outside the restaurant?
@@ImInYourWalls877 it probably is referring to charlie but it could be about sammy(even though I'm sure he'd be alive)
@heatheroutre I thought Sammy didn't actually exist and it was a fake kid Henry put into Charlie's fake memories?
I like Henry going to jail for negligence when Charlie dies.
I guess in books he is in solitude & grieving?
If he's adopted from Henry, there's also a chance Michael just didn't know the full extent of what was going on or fell into the rumors he was hearing which fed into how he treated the crying child. Especially if his father's frustration with Henry bled onto Michael at a young age he could have unintentionally copied that but in a more child like way. Also gives more comparisons between Michael and William. A man so cruel that he Let's his jealousy and anger lead him to kill, only to continue to do so for his own wants.
And a son who managed to avoid the same path the moment he accidentally killed,actually feeling guilt in a way his father never did. Maybe even wishing that he could had more time to actually be a brother to CC.
Could also be a chance of in the games there not being really a Mrs.Emily(either she died or left before everything went down)
So after Charlie's death there wasn't really anyone to actually take care of CC cause how Henry gets. So he got adopted into the Afton family.
Maybe Michael feeling jealous, not understanding his father was messing with and experimenting with CC and thought he was getting extra attention.
I always love to explore siblings and their relationships, and really even with CC being biologically an Afton there's room to say that Michael could've been Jealous or just reflecting what he seen from his father.
Also, i actually do think there's a chance that William is just...a bad guy. That something in him is self centered and just likes to push and experiment and abuse things for his own betterment. Honestly him having a sob story of wanting to put his son back together does nothing for me narratively we seen him not want Elizabeth to mess with the kidnapping animatronics but there's always that chance he might've just been a "girl dad" and didn't care as much for his sons or just didn't want Elizabeth to mess with anything. I mean Henry is also seen as a kind of "girl dad" so it is possible. I mean the only canon interaction we really know of with his sons is that he might've been spying on the CC, he literally had him have his birthday party on a place he was scared of and that he sent Michael to check on Elizabeth/ baby and do all that.
It's also interesting to think of similarities between Henry and William as opposing forces, representing two versions of neglecting parents. One who truly doesn't mean ill, and cares in some way. But he did fail as a father, Charlie wasn't really his fault, he couldn't control that though he could've been better attentive to her.
But he does give up caring for his son(if CC is his son in this idea-), which leaves to his son being in a household he's not safe in. Even if he never died he would grow up with a father who would've continued to experiment and use him.
Michael might get a chance to change, it's hard to tell how he could been effected if he didn't witness the '83 bite.
But CC would've still been in a household where he wasn't truly safe or loved.
Idk,i do wish there was more exploration on characters and their dynamics in some fashion. Just kind of gives a bit more life to the world and story ^^
YES about your 2nd paragraph. I can 100% see Henry getting absorbed in grief over Charlie and CC getting neglected as a consequence. That's a part of my deeper theory on Henry tbh, but I am still researching for it.
I also agree with your point about William sob story thing. His character simply being driven by progress, greed, etc. is a lot more compelling to me considering how much of Fazbear Entertainment seems to be profit driven regardless of the consequences.
The duality of Henry/William is soooo interesting when you, exactly as you say, examine their similarities. I could even see a world where Henry saw so much of himself in William that it scared him away from his passion of making animatronics entirely. It's clear the character feels a lot of guilt over how his actions seem to have inadvertently caused so much pain.
I think Henry knew the whole time, he was just as dark as Afton, if not worse
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@@ShesNervous i can't, it's cozy in here
The “put back together” speech is a thorn in my theory side, too. If it is Afton saying it, then CC can’t be the first victim because “put back together” implies knowledge of remnant. But if we’ve been getting such a key element of the entire skeleton of the story wrong, surely there would have been more direct corrections like we were given for Charlie. I have a habit of giving Scott more credit than he deserves, though.
There have been a number of times where I've sort of thrown my hands up and said "maybe Scott just isn't a great storyteller"
Like he built a great world but omg some of these pieces should not be so hard to put together.
Just throwing my random thoughts in here! I think it makes sense William saying that even without Remnant knowledge. He's in shock, he's probably a narcissist, he's in denial - maybe he doesn't even think he can but he says it to his dying kid, half a reassurance and half a refusal of the truth. Then the remnant happens and it goes literal hahaha
The Fredbear at the end is not necessarily William
Fnaf world kind of implies Psychic friend Fredbear is a paranormal entity such as the puppet or Golden Freddy
tbh I could see William somehow taking in Henry's son, but again why would he kill Charlie then have her brother alive. Only if he actually kept him alive as subject for illusion experiments. And after the bite CC could've been brought back by Charlie (his "sister").
As for Henry going to jail because he's a suspect, it's pretty believable
Another thing you should check out is the lawsuits from pizza sim, some seem like a clear joke, but one literally sugests the sister location was underneath the pizza place all along, i'm just now realizing this, also a lawsuit for a child bit on their frontal lobe, these might be real lawsuits, like real relevent things obviously. Even help wanted suggested there was a lawsuit, did anybody put 2 and 2 together?
I will make it a point to read through them. May be worth a dedicated episode!
@@ShesNervous the most important ones i'm referring to are the animatronic head falling off, the frontal lobe bite, and the kid falling through the floor... i dont think i've seen a single person mention the lawsuits for some reason
This honestly makes so much sense when it comes to Mike's treatment of CC. I know siblings can have a prank relationship, but Mike's scares seem cruel and not good-spirited. Like I don't care how old a kid is, no one is putting their brother in an animatronic's mouth. But if they aren't biologically related and he latches onto that plus Mike channeling his dad, then I can see it.
For sure, especially if he holds some resentment towards having to be responsible for CC.
I’ve thought this too!!! It just seems that Charlie and CC have so many connections. Both being bullied, the connections between fnaf 4 and fnaf 2 (why is tiny toy Chica missing her beak?), security breach with Gregory who is similar to CC and the night marionette stuff EVERYWHERE, and of course the kidnapping
I super appreciate your theories, always clarifies the parts I'm unsure about in Fnaf lore!
also, those earrings are cool af!
Hot Topic 😎😎 I love them!
The one time youtube notifications work and it's this topic. Awesome
Henry's wife marrying William does seem interesting when you consider that she has blonde hair just like Elizabeth.
Luv this vid so much (and the blooper at the end; would luv that as an ongoing gag going forward, if you feel like it)! I hadn’t really thought of the adoptee angle for CC. I never tire of seeing all the different ways families can look in beloved stories/media, so I wouldn’t mind it at all if that was the case with the aftons. I would love to know your thoughts on Michael being the CC! Also, how do you feel about modern FNAFs protagonists being these brave kids that come from atypical home/family structures-gregory being homeless, and cassie’s presumably single dad?We’re assuming no robo-kids, ofc! I kinda luv that part of recent fnaf. Historically our protagonists are unnamed younger adults with no telegraphed backstories/personalities so that turn’s been really refreshing! Nothing says drama and intrigue like fazbear ent’s constant child endangerment.
I definitely have plenty of bloopers to share 😂🤦🏻♀️
I love the new game kids which is why I'm so hoping they are not robots
I'll not be like SAD if either are bots just like a little disappointed for my own sake.
I think youre correct, though I dont know how William gets crying child.
The strongest evidence is the poster (followed by the Immortal and the restless). Crying child is depicted as a golden bear. Henry wears the golden bear costume. William wears Bonnie, while not on the poster directly, is obviously true.
Also all the new games constantly point to mci kids being first and charlie last. More to think about.
Imo
1) William kills 5 kids (also maybe see that chika cartoon).
2) Hids in animatronics like a psycho.
3) Investigation with cops
4) Dirt mound in deepwoods
ohhhh like he moved and then buried the bodies?
I really like the step-afton take of cc being Henry's unborn son but there just isnt enough evidence to support it in my opinion. The adoption option seems the most likely in my opinion. It also made me think of the idea that midnight motorist could be hinting at it. So basically after Charlie's death Henry becomes an unstable alcoholic, his wife also seemingly uninterested in him anymore (just something I think is true though she could just be watching tv) tells him that their son has had a tough day. Henry heads towards his room , finds it locked, starts yelling and when he checks outside he says "he went to that place again, he will be sorry when he gets back" . This could imply that his son (CC) went to Freddy's which Henry hates after his daughter's death, that's why when he says that place it feels weirdly aggresive. So basically that keeps going on and his wife either leaves or leaves him with the child( this could tie to step-afton) and Henry is deemed unable to keep the custody of the child so William adopts him or marries Henry's wife and her son is adopted into the Afton family. Now this theory is very loose 😅 and I had to look over key details such as, why the midnight motorist game is called later that night in the files implying that its the night of Charlie's death so Henry would not yet be an abusive alcoholic father, what's up with the grave in midnight motorist?, Why does Henry have the same car as William? (My only explanation for this is that either Scott loves purple cars even Jessica from the novel trilogy has one or that it's a company provided car. I remember my parents used to work at a company that provided cars to employees so that they could get to work and go home too. This is still loose evidence as William and Henry are the owners and not employees and I doubt Henry would need a company car anyway since he would be pretty well off and would be able to afford a car), why would Henry not mention CC in his monologue as you said as well. Overall many loose ends but if the theory that CC isnt William's biological son is to be believed I can't help but think that midnight motorist has some connection.
Btw sorry for the long comment, also I really liked the video.
I have my own theories on this franchise, but most people think of the as insane or holding no weight. As far as CC being adopted one part of me says yes and the other says no. As an adopted kid myself I look at this from that angle. I didn't have siblings, but I had a lot of family. And while they were caring and nice to me it was an unspoken feeling of "Yes, you're part of the family, but you're not PART of the family." Insinuating that because I was not blood that I was less than to everyone else.
I see Michael's behavior as I saw their unspoken behavior. That just because their father said they are brothers doesn't mean Michael believes it or feels a need to be a brother to him. Also I was raised by Boomers who had a very old fashioned view on things. Both of them had mental issues that neither of them wanted to acknowledge, but it didn't stop them from using their abusive and paranoid tactics on me growing up. This is how I see FNAF 4. It's an experiment. A psychological experiment. "Sure, everything is fine. Wait...maybe I should check one last time..."
So my view is CC is either adopted or, he is the replacement for Elizabeth, a robot child like Afton tried to make and he is subjecting him to human like situations to test how human like the robot responds to everything. It would also make sense why he says he'll put him back together....again
First of all, I am sorry for the ways you felt alienated in your family. I empathize.
Wanted to point out how your final interpretation is something I've actually considered before regarding CC and how he is Afton's attempt to make the "perfect" kid. If you've ever played/heard of Lily's Well, it's that same vibe. "You're broken" refers less to him being injured and more to do with him failing to survive. "You're not right, yet." Would be very tragic but certainly moving from a narrative standpoint.
William Afton being the step father of Crying Child or Sammy kinda fits with with what we see in The Immortal and The Reckless
Wow! This was an amazing watch, I really like the theory, you got me on board. Thanks for being consistently one of the best creators on the platform!
My problem with this is that I just don't see how it'd be relevant. CC would still end up as Afton's kid anyway.
awesome video! and a toast cameo too, we are blessed
This is now one of my new favorite theories
I'm honored! Thanks for checking it out.
the third option seems to be the most likely both in the game timeline and in the movie timeline, a very interesting idea.
I would REALLY love to spend more time looking for evidence about the stepdad angle because I do think it would add a layer of scandal and betrayal that would have forced Henry to stop associating with the Aftons altogether. MatPat has talked about Step-Afton in the past and maybe I should link that video as well, but he's focused on Michael being the step kid so the evidence doesn't apply the same way.
I like that red color on your hair it looks nice
can't wait to hear your thoughts!
Honestly I'm in the same boat as you. I don’t know the big picture, but I think it's interesting to posit William isn't that kid's dad, whether he's another kidnapping victim, Sammy, or someone else entirely. It speaks to his posessive and obsessive nature. Thanks for another great video!
Seriously, I just cannot get on board with the idea that CC was a dear, darling child to him. He treats the kid like he doesn't even exist lol.
I've never heard these points before. Great video! The only thing is that uhh... ur crazy if u think that BV died after the MCI💀 But everything else was super educational
(I especially liked the theory that Henry went on trial n Afton disposed of the bodies during that time period)
Yeah I have a pinned comment regarding the MCI portion of the video 😅
Great video! Perfect sweater too.
I'm also a fan of Not Real.
Notreal presents really unique perspectives on individual characters. ♥️♥️♥️
Discovered your videos today! . Great theories! Thank you for making this content.. (Love your hair, too!) ♡
Awesome! Such a wild theory, but I LOVE it!
Excited for this!
Love all these speculations! I'm open to cc being either, though these are all great points!
Lovely cat!
What is that rabbit clown
The mask is from Spirit Halloween and is just a random vintage-style rabbit mask. I just love rabbits and it (vaguely) reminded me of Vanny. ♥️
@@ShesNervous neat! Also terrifying!
would love to hear your thoughts on fredbear plush/vengeful spirit completely. that sounds like such a cool theory
Yeah I realized after that I would have to prove v. spirit was not part of MCI /or/ that MCI didn't happen in 1985. Neither is an easy task, but I have thoughts I'm still trying to flesh out.
Thank you for the comment!
All of you seem to forget that it’s only a FAN THEORY that the Crying Child is an Afton because the only 3 canon Aftons are William, Michael and Elizabeth.
oooh she uploaded !
I would also like to hear your thoughts about c.c being Michael
The supplementary material has been pretty consistent wirh the MCI happening in 1985 and SL doubles down on CC's death happening in 1983 so Psychic Friend Fredbear isnt possessed by the Vengeful Spirit but I do think hes possessed by the Puppet, because i absolutely agree that William is just evil all the way. Even the story where hes being tortured by the Vengeful Spirit goes out of its way to make sure he isnt pitied. Afton is obsessive and egotistical, I genuinely think he killed Charlotte because she was 'getting in the way' of Henry's work by virtue of being a child. Hell Sister Location implies that Psychic Friend Fredbear is mostly William talking and so he knows that Micheal bullies CC and does nothing to stop it, given the fact CC gets locked in the maintenence closet William either did that himself or gave Micheal his keys.
Yeah that's so fair. I appreciate people pointing it out because I should've just said a previous victim of Afton.
I often struggle with the 1985 date because of how confusing it is that i'm FNAF 4 there's the talk of how people go missing and the way one of the suits looks stuffed with the hair coming out.
It feels so clear that something has happened previously in the timeline, but I really cannot just be out here saying things without better evidence to support it.
I really appreciate this comment. It's very well written. Thank you!
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I thought michael and the crying child being one was a crack theory when it popped into my head, but then matpat said it too.
yo literally how I felt about stepdad Afton 😂
NO
Have you had 4000 watch hours in the past year?
3.1k since January. My channel wasn't active last year.
I think I found the source you used for this inquiry and I just want to say,
1. Thank you x1000
2. It's so strange that UA-cam initially said I needed to reach 3k hours over 28 days. If the actual qualification is 4k hours over 1 year, I would have happily continued to work towards that goal.
Either way, I'll just keep trucking along lol. I genuinely very much appreciate you commenting this though or I'd have spent so long banging my head against a wall trying to figure it out.
@@ShesNervous you're welcome I just love your videos so much and wanna see you thrive
Dumb question but doesnt mangle existing with the crying child suggest sister location was before him getting bit, also kind of weird baby opens the face of a suit not used how it was intended to be that also happens to be on camera... to get mike arrested in william's place? Or to get william arrested at mike's expense? was sister location a set up?
Not a dumb question at ALL. I think it's fair evidence. I think the issue is WHO we play as in Sister Location SEEMS to be Michael, who would need to have gotten a bit older before Sister Location happens.
It's just weird that there are still employees working there. Sister Location is a game that needs a lot more attention in my opinion.
@@ShesNervous also funtime foxy actually jump scaring us as mike, which kind of makes me think they're replicating whats seen on the monitors maybe, i only say that because he survives it somehow, baby rushing him in a springlock suit right after is weird though, kind of seemed like she was making sure he didnt die before he was in the suit, making sure his face is on camera and he is "saved". The technician points out specifically the scooper is automated, which means it has an ai, i wonder if the blob is cassidys intentions mixed with scooper would explain the weird parallel visual in security breach's "true ending" and the ruin scooper ending
Afton's family shouldn't be allowed to be British English or Perkins English unfortunately Afton family aren't Pretending as Well as my country and such As Scott cawthon said earlier with his comments
Toy's Animatronics counterpart of unwithered animatronics were created by Henry Emily Co CEO company as well as Fazbear's Fright Restaurant Belonged to the Toy's Animatronics counterpart of unwithered animatronics as well.
Afton family aren't Pretending either 🙄
Afton's family shouldn't be allowed to be related either As well.
Afton family aren't Pretending as our country
I'm concerns information about Toy's animatronics and such As unwithered animatronics Are created by Henry Emily Co CEO founder as well.
I wanna see your oppinion onn MikeVictim to be honest.