How Valve turned FAILURE into SUCCESS

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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    Valve tried to usher in an era of Linux gaming in the past, and it did not work. Not even a little. Getting devs to support a new operating system with a very very small user base was an impossible task. I’m glad that Valve tried, but they failed spectacularly the first time around.
    Fast forward a few years, and Valve has figured it out. Essentially Rather than getting the devs to commit to Linux they turned to Proton. That’s it success right? Windows games running on Linux! It’s amazing that Valve was able to make that work. The Devs said, No, and Valve said “fine I’ll do it myself”.
    But that’s just step one. Now Valve has to push developers to make their games run on fairly limited hardware.
    Some devs have seen the light and have been targeting the steam deck probably because they saw how popular handheld gaming is with the Switch and if they can do a little bit of extra work, it might benefit their customers in a big way.
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  • @NerdNest
    @NerdNest  11 місяців тому +19

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    • @bigsmoothkaj
      @bigsmoothkaj 11 місяців тому

      Recently came across your channel and love the content. In the market for a gaming handheld so all related videos have been amazing. Quick question: do you have a simple explanation video like this one that explains the whole anti-cheat blocker that prevents Steam Deck users from playing games like COD or FIFA? It’s the only barrier standing in my way from choosing a Deck over an Ally or even the upcoming Go. But I don’t quite understand the issue. Thanks.

    • @SpartX7
      @SpartX7 11 місяців тому

      If a game like starfield have a preset for handhelds that would be great. But it will still be a 125GB download that you might wanna play with a resolution of 720p or 1080p at best. The bigger challenge is to cut the game size down. That is something the community isn't gonna help much with.

  • @GXShade
    @GXShade 11 місяців тому +868

    Just remember, we need to thank wine developers as well. Without wine, Proton probably would not have existed.

    • @AndrewJacksonSE
      @AndrewJacksonSE 11 місяців тому +54

      I was under the impression that Valve is co-developing Proton with Codeweavers. They were the developers of crossover, which was a commercial version of wine (which I used many many years ago to run office and various windows only tools on linux when I was student)

    • @dzibanart8521
      @dzibanart8521 11 місяців тому +9

      ​@@AndrewJacksonSEindeed.

    • @Roruoni
      @Roruoni 11 місяців тому +43

      I think Joshua Ashton's project DXVK which showed rapid development and great promise is what actually made Valve take interest in Wine and Proton as a project that they could push forward on. They paired it with the pressure-vessel project they were looking at developing to solve Linux runtime woes with it's bubblewrap containers

    • @AndrewJacksonSE
      @AndrewJacksonSE 11 місяців тому +11

      @@Roruoni interesting - I haven’t dug that deep. Certainly Proton now is an impressive piece of work and has gone far further with Valve dollars than it would have! It has convinced me I could manage to move back to Linux as my regular desktop OS at home.

    • @rev0lu7ion
      @rev0lu7ion 11 місяців тому +26

      Yeah there's no way proton could exist without wine. That was decades of work on a massively difficult task.

  • @derram0k
    @derram0k 11 місяців тому +230

    Valve never stopped with Linux support. The Deck is more of a continuation of pushing for that "Linux age of gaming" than a second run at it.

    • @baraka629
      @baraka629 10 місяців тому +15

      Yep, Steam Machine, SteamOS, Big Picture Mode and the Steam Deck are just all on the same development continuum.

    • @TremereTT
      @TremereTT 10 місяців тому +5

      valve joined forces with Linux to answer the trend of walled garden operating systems like, ios, macos x, chromeOS, android (defakto). And Microsoft wanting to jump on that train , spawned fear in Gabe steam might one day get replaced by the microsoft store....
      It's a strategy to mightygate the power of OS makers , by becoming a OS maker...well a linux distribution maker...and a supporter of a compatibility layer

    • @technite5360
      @technite5360 9 місяців тому

      Of course, they supported it, it's free OS, it's good for their business (no licence and good dev environment, and answer to microsoft tentacles, look xbox pass, and Mstore). But GNU/linux is already "gaming" since most smartphone use it, no, you're talking about distros on desktop and Valve use their own based on Arch. There was already a gaming community but an indie one, using wine for exemple and most of the time, the problem of gaming not developing, was the fault of the Devs OR.... NVIDIA

    • @Elkarlo77
      @Elkarlo77 9 місяців тому

      Personally i realy hope it. I am Microsoft PC Gamer since 1991. Microsoft account in Windows 11 is realy bad for PC Gaming. Linux Gaming is not good unless you get proton running. I will try on an old Haswell SteamOS again. And i got another PC to swap over. The biggest Archievement of Microsoft was the compatibility mode on Win 10. You could an old Win95 game and it runs. On Windows 11 as well. The Rumors about Win12 home are disheartening and may kill Epic Store, Valve Store and PC Gaming on the long run. SteamOS maybe the saviour: Lightweight Linux Desktop for the boring stuff and some surfing and SteamOS for gaming. And i think that Valve won't stop the SteamOS support. Even if Win 12 home won't come in with blocked sideload, win13 home may. And at this moment load of PC gamers will be searching an easy to install OS. Microsoft can't block it on the Enterprise or Pro Versions but Home maybe be crippled as hell.

    • @REXae86
      @REXae86 6 місяців тому

      Linux age of gaming isn’t happening 😂

  • @MatGeeZ
    @MatGeeZ 11 місяців тому +157

    When the first person uddered the question "will it run doom?", valve took it personally

    • @mu11668B
      @mu11668B 9 місяців тому +3

      Gabe said in one of their documentaries that he himself ported Doom onto Windows. I bet they not only took it personally, but ought to also nail it.

  • @Dollique
    @Dollique 11 місяців тому +81

    These are exactly the reasons why I decided to go for the Steam Deck rather than a potentially more powerful handheld device like the ROG Ally. The software support Valve is doing is crazy.

    • @WhatWillYouFind
      @WhatWillYouFind 9 місяців тому +6

      OLED Deck is punch for punch a knockout. I would never gamble a handful of benjamins on ASUS or anyone else when Steam will "just work."

    • @Slateproc
      @Slateproc 9 місяців тому +6

      It's not just the insane backend support, but it's also that the ally just has too much horsepower for what it's trying to do

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 4 місяці тому

      @WhatWillYouFind yeah I remember at launch how much of my steam library was incompatible at launch and it increased vastly over the years. Then consoles wanna charge you for everything (sony), delist a lot, underperform (nintendo) and go digital only (especially xbox).

  • @Rokabur
    @Rokabur 10 місяців тому +26

    This is one of the reasons Valve earns that 30% sales cut. It can not be easy or cheap not only developing Proton but going out of their way to patch games that otherwise might not run at all.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 10 місяців тому +5

      It is still a little aggressive. But Valve is definitely the last case where I will complain about 30%. Once Apple, Microsoft, Sony and everybody else stops taking 30%, valve is next, but they do so much good work for what they take.

    • @wibs0n68
      @wibs0n68 9 місяців тому +4

      People forgot that 30% is the Industry standard since forever

    • @kirbyjoe7484
      @kirbyjoe7484 8 місяців тому

      @@wibs0n68 It's 25% these days.

    • @wibs0n68
      @wibs0n68 8 місяців тому +1

      @@kirbyjoe7484 there are no stores that have 25% cut afaik

    • @reiniermoreno1653
      @reiniermoreno1653 7 місяців тому

      30% is the standard in this market, also valve have discount for sales numbers, once the game reach a million of copies sold the percentage drop to 15%

  • @Kansamos_
    @Kansamos_ 11 місяців тому +14

    I think your point with the “Great on Deck” store page is very on point. I only got my steam deck ~1 month ago, and I’ve already seen, and purchased, two games I would have probably never seen, or bought, if it wasn’t for that specfic store. And I love both of them, such smooth experiences on deck that work flawlessly.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 місяців тому +5

      What games are they?

    • @Kansamos_
      @Kansamos_ 11 місяців тому +6

      @@NerdNestCocoon and Planet of Lana! Currently loving both of them.

  • @RaulChis
    @RaulChis 11 місяців тому +270

    Long live the Steam Deck!

    • @Leopardeye
      @Leopardeye 11 місяців тому +5

      Huzzah!😁😁😁

  • @DVCBear
    @DVCBear 11 місяців тому +62

    Just ordered a Steam deck, was going to wait until Black Friday but pulled the trigger. Looking forward to getting back into gaming after a 12 year break. This is great. I can keep my Mac and use the steam deck for windows games. And nobody knows I got a new PC.😊

    • @aidanmagill6769
      @aidanmagill6769 10 місяців тому +25

      Man, I hope you waited...

    • @derrorer
      @derrorer 10 місяців тому +21

      This didn't age well...

    • @DVCBear
      @DVCBear 10 місяців тому +30

      Sorry to report :) I own an LCD, and have and OLED on the way. I enjoyed it that much!! Will gift my LCD version away.

    • @NoSmoke1
      @NoSmoke1 10 місяців тому +32

      @@DVCBear the neutral ending

    • @mrkeeny
      @mrkeeny 10 місяців тому

      Same here, 15 years cessation -apart from playing civ on iPad

  • @sentinel7122
    @sentinel7122 11 місяців тому +52

    Just bought mine during the last sale, and it really did come to the "rescue" for me lol. Following a major injury/surgery, I've been unable to sit at my desk (in addition to losing my outdoors hobbies) due to pain for nearly a year. I don't play most of my "big" games on it, but I've been making way more time to play Indies and some older titles laying down comfortably! Love this thing.

    • @ImUrZaddy
      @ImUrZaddy 11 місяців тому +5

      Play your “big” games through streaming my man!

    • @turdferguson3091
      @turdferguson3091 11 місяців тому

      play your big games on it. ive been playing through cp2077 and it runs beautifully. esp with fsr on.

    • @XBASS247
      @XBASS247 11 місяців тому +1

      Just play big games on it you will and you be fine
      matter fact some play better because of the control and get use to track pads add gyro and your a top shooter

    • @werpu12
      @werpu12 10 місяців тому

      Heh.. same here, i had a disc prolapse and while i was in rehab valve announced the steam deck which was heavens sent, because I could barely sit, it has been my main gaming device ever since! I almost never turn on my gaming pc anymore!

  • @ramongrady3166
    @ramongrady3166 11 місяців тому +70

    Had my deck for about 6 months & I absolutely love it!!!

    • @smolltaco5667
      @smolltaco5667 10 місяців тому

      Im thinking about getting an oled, dunno if i should get the expensive one though

    • @combopybrosharkfrenforhire6420
      @combopybrosharkfrenforhire6420 10 місяців тому

      I think the cheaper option is probably better for not spending too much but the other oled model is probably worth as much as it’s selling for

  • @blackyraypatrick9041
    @blackyraypatrick9041 10 місяців тому +5

    For explanations of shader cache i really like the example of an grenade explosion. The way the explosion will look, the smoke and fire animation will be precalculated the moment you throw your first grenade. You often see the first explosion cause a microstutter in many games. After you threw your first grenade the animation will be saved in a cache so that all the other grenades can explode smoothly...

  • @BillNyeTheBountyGuy
    @BillNyeTheBountyGuy 10 місяців тому +3

    It's so refreshing to see a company stick to a product to make it successful. Every Valve product has been leading up to this basically. Steam Machines, Steam controller, Steam Big Picture, etc.

  • @reethardio6432
    @reethardio6432 11 місяців тому +13

    just bought a steamdeck yesterday so i can play my games even when my rheumatoid arthritis is flairing up. cant wait till it gets here. your content and fan the deck convinced me to get it

  • @deathtenk
    @deathtenk 10 місяців тому +4

    thank you for accurately describing Proton. So many people say it's an emulator when that just isn't true. it doesn't emulate any hardware, it's a lightweight translation layer it just translates DX and OpenGL calls to vulkan calls.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  10 місяців тому +1

      I think most understand that it isn't actually emulation, but that's the EASIEST way to describe it to someone that knows NOTHING about this stuff.

    • @deathtenk
      @deathtenk 10 місяців тому +2

      @@NerdNest well for people who actually know nothing about this stuff they just see a box that plays games. going over the nuances of how it all runs would be a waste of time already. I'd rather simplify things and be somewhat accurate then try to describe them and be misleading or wrong.

  • @mcdonald8240
    @mcdonald8240 11 місяців тому +6

    Steam deck is such a groundbreaking device with all the passion Valve and developers put in to get games running

  • @trollerbladdering
    @trollerbladdering 11 місяців тому +22

    I'm only 48 seconds into this video and the production quality was so impressive I had to stop and hit the sub button and type this out.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 місяців тому +3

      Thank you!

  • @Voughtrazer
    @Voughtrazer 10 місяців тому +6

    Valve deserves its success and I wholeheartedly hope they thrive.

  • @Thee_Dr_Evil
    @Thee_Dr_Evil 11 місяців тому +12

    Proton is great, but Glorious Eggroll has been huge in bringing fixes much sooner due to the lack of "required" testing that Valve has to deal with. I've enjoyed being able to play a large part of my library on Fedora without any major issues. However until we get to a point where the devs will allow Proton to support anti cheat, we're going to be stifled.

    • @YakultLitro
      @YakultLitro 11 місяців тому +4

      the power of opensource.. if the main dev is so busy updating their code. community is there to the rescue. something microsoft will never understand.

    • @AbsurdAsparagus
      @AbsurdAsparagus 10 місяців тому

      @@YakultLitro Microsoft does understand it, they just are greedy and want sole ownership of everything. one day we are gonna learn that these company are just parasites that scam people out of their hard work for the greed of ownership. you receive $50 bucks for every $5000 of profit you bring to the company. Microsoft wants to keep that going. its why they don't want to engage with open source.

    • @nasimfaheemalquadir
      @nasimfaheemalquadir 9 місяців тому

      Gloriolus Eggroll has their own Linux distro called Nobara OS he also works at Red Hat which im not going to comment on but umm yeah.

    • @Bunuffin
      @Bunuffin 9 місяців тому

      GE is a redhat dev, he is truly a great dev... He makes it so easy for noobs to get into linux gaming with Nobara, i daily drive it and it's a breeze

    • @YakultLitro
      @YakultLitro 9 місяців тому

      @@Bunuffin is Nobara also dev friendly? like installing all dev tools for daily work.

  • @LukeDupin
    @LukeDupin 10 місяців тому +2

    I've been a full time Linux daily driver since 2001. I love valve and will support them to the end.

  • @emymainor4985
    @emymainor4985 11 місяців тому +4

    I found this channel @NerdNest this year when I received my Steam Deck back in January this year, and I love all of your content! That aside, Steam Deck is my most played gaming device this year, its awesome!

  • @MmntechCa
    @MmntechCa 9 місяців тому +2

    The Windows Store has always been at the root of Valve's Linux strategy. When Microsoft originally launched it as part of Windows 8, both Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney (Epic) expressed concerns that Windows would go the walled garden route, as Apple had done with iOS. Valve started working on building up Linux as an alternative, while Epic started work on a new store (EGS) that would be attractive to publishers. Of course Valve's contributions to Linux have drastically improved the OS to the point where it's probably 95% there as a Windows replacement for gaming. Anti-cheat in many online multiplayer titles is really the last barrier. EGS meanwhile is failing because it did nothing to incentivize consumers using it.

  • @iamarawn
    @iamarawn 11 місяців тому +2

    I just got back from vacation. In the evening, i was playing using the steam deck with headphones and a dualsense controller. So amazing

  • @BrittleScarMusic
    @BrittleScarMusic 11 місяців тому +3

    I have to admit, I love my steamdeck. After my gaming PC died a sudden death this became my 'gaming pc' and I play more indi games, rarely any massive shooter games (I might ahve one). So runs the games I want perfectly.

  • @WIImotionmasher
    @WIImotionmasher 10 місяців тому

    First video of yours I've seen (that I remember). I really like your chill and forgiving approach to speaking and writting. You bring up people might think 30FPS is not good enough to play on, but you dont say they're yelling about it or angry. You just say "some people might say, I don't want to play it at 30 fps".
    That kind of level-headed presentation is really appreciated. Thank you.
    I'm subscribed now.

  • @imyth4475
    @imyth4475 11 місяців тому +8

    Was looking at getting a steam deck. Great video, thanks for your take!

  • @TheDaidai05
    @TheDaidai05 11 місяців тому +9

    I love steam deck and I want valve to know in the future when they make steam deck 2, 3, 4… I’ll buy it

    • @somethingelse401
      @somethingelse401 11 місяців тому +7

      You mean the two and four? Everyone knows that valve is terrified of the number 3

    • @lindsysdf7308
      @lindsysdf7308 11 місяців тому +1

      @@somethingelse401lol

    • @misterperson7070
      @misterperson7070 10 місяців тому +1

      Yea me too. I’m not sacrificing my fps sorry. I’m so sure valve can do 60+ fps on 1080p it’s just a matter of time. Props to everyone supporting the first generation though

    • @TheDaidai05
      @TheDaidai05 10 місяців тому +1

      Lol I was kinda capping. I just got my steam deck like 1-2 months ago and now the oled is coming out. A little to early for me to go buy an upgrade

    • @TheDaidai05
      @TheDaidai05 10 місяців тому +1

      @@misterperson7070 Understandable. When it comes to what I actually play on steam deck, I don't even bother much with the newer more demanding titles. Like yeah its cool I can play elden ring on a handheld, but when your battery is gonna die in like 2 hours or less I'd rather just play it on my pc.
      All the games in my backlog from yesteryears like batman arkham knight, ps2 and gamecube emulation, and turn based rpgs is what I actually play on my steam deck that makes it worth it to me.
      Really its the perfect companion device, but if was my only gaming device I would not be so happy with it

  • @carlthewinner
    @carlthewinner 11 місяців тому +23

    I ❤ Steam Deck. :)

  • @ZaberfangX
    @ZaberfangX 11 місяців тому +4

    I think even if some dev don't believe the steam deck, is good to target getting their game to work then work out what needs to be change to have good controller playable layout that looks good and run well on a small screen. So everything they learn can work well on the switch fixing it on the deck first less work in the long run with feels and controller layout, even how the game looks on small screen.

  • @gulapula
    @gulapula 10 місяців тому

    Wine is the humblest software Ive ever seen. Wine serves a pivotal role in so many Mac and Linux ports, and yet still has an old webpage straight out of the late 2000s.

  • @Rocksteady72a
    @Rocksteady72a 9 місяців тому

    Between my Portal & Steam Deck, it really feels like a new generation rather than the middle of a continuing generation.

  • @justinp9170
    @justinp9170 11 місяців тому +2

    It's clear to me that Valve is looking at the long game this time around for Steam OS. And if they keep pushing like this, I can see devs slowly making early development choices for the benefit of making sure a game can also run well on Linux (like choosing Vulkan API over DirectX). And eventually Valve will have to do less and less emergency patching for games to work on Steam Deck. Then Valve can move on to the next phase... reallocating the resources used for patching into launching Steam OS onto desktop.
    I'd love a PC with an OS that puts gaming first, and still flexible enough to get productive work done when needed. 95% of the time I'm firing up Steam, Discord and/or opening the browser. Only a few times I have to work on a spreadsheet or typing a document.

    • @santosic
      @santosic 11 місяців тому

      a gaming-focused OS would actually be pretty interesting on PC, I'd definitely dabble in that, especially since it'd give me an alternative to Windows that can still play the games I want to play. And if it's still an actual desktop where I can work on the occasional document and the occasional photo edit here and there, that'd be even better. I hope that becomes a thing someday.

  • @kaboomsihal1164
    @kaboomsihal1164 11 місяців тому

    9:50 lmfao "This is another example of... shit of the exact opposite of what I was saying lemme pivot real quick"

  • @saurabhojha3708
    @saurabhojha3708 10 місяців тому +1

    General gaming in linux via proton is pretty great, the only change I want is for steam to have the option come with the option of overriding the respective game launchers and play directly (even if it is offline)

    • @AdityaWaghmare
      @AdityaWaghmare 10 місяців тому

      That will never happen as publishers will simply pull their game out from Steam.

  • @carlosmelendez8317
    @carlosmelendez8317 11 місяців тому +6

    The Steam Deck is amazing! Not perfect but amazing.

  • @nibelungvalesti
    @nibelungvalesti 9 місяців тому

    One thing to keep in mind is that most devs didn't have to do anything. Proton layer took care of it.

  • @YakultLitro
    @YakultLitro 11 місяців тому +1

    19:30 so lenovo took the failed design of SD and made it themselves LOL. you can see the design on the right side wall..

  • @f00fightrs
    @f00fightrs 11 місяців тому +2

    Off topic, but can you tell us your camera/lens combo for your vids? I watch all your vids and all I’m thinking is how crystal clear and sharp you look with the buttery smooth bokeh in the background. You’ve nailed the perfect combo for your vids/podcast. Anyway, really love your content in addition to the group podcast sessions.

    • @NerdNest
      @NerdNest  11 місяців тому

      It’s linked in the gear section of my description.

  • @microcolonel
    @microcolonel 10 місяців тому

    People are mentioning wine and DXVK being part of the success, but another nerdy detail that was important to this story:
    because the Linux kernel does not have stable ABIs for drivers between versions, it is extremely impractical for device vendors to publish proprietary kernel drivers for Linux.
    Through this and a variety of other conditions, it made business sense for AMD to publish adequate documentation to implement drivers, and eventually to publish their kernel drivers as source code and upstream them. They also put significant resources into Mesa with the Radeon and RadeonSI OpenGL drivers. When Vulkan came out, heroic Mesa contributors produced RADV and AMD published AMDVLK...
    ...and because of all of this open source access and the efforts of motivated developers later supported by Codeweavers, Red Hat, and Valve, this AMD/Mesa Linux gaming platform really came together, and enabled the Steam Deck.
    Valve is now supporting work across the whole stack, from the kernel to Mesa to platform libraries like SDL and Wine/Proton, and this access to the whole platform is crucial to their ability to make any of this work.

  • @vilian9185
    @vilian9185 9 місяців тому +1

    Valve fixed the starfield in the linux direct on the vulkan driver

  • @wyvern681
    @wyvern681 11 місяців тому +1

    Been watching your channel since the steamdeck was announced. Your videos have really been enjoyable the quality of them has really improved lately just wanted to congratulate you on such great work kudos!!

  • @rorychivers8769
    @rorychivers8769 10 місяців тому

    I find it very strange that steam has gone from "get this piece of shit steam off my machine" to "get this piece of shit windows off my machine and replace it with steam"

  • @Azaurus1
    @Azaurus1 8 місяців тому

    Also reaching the ps4, xbox one benchmark graphics wise is important the current and future games that like that benchmark form handhelds/budget pcs.

  • @jasper265
    @jasper265 11 місяців тому

    Pronunciation for the founder of Larian Studios's name: Sven Vink-e, Sven basically as you pronounced it, the V like in vet, ink as you would pronounce that word and the final e like the e in batter

  • @casualjay909
    @casualjay909 11 місяців тому

    1:19 homie got to let it go 😭

  • @xMRxLAMAx
    @xMRxLAMAx 10 місяців тому

    I’ve been very excited about Valve’s efforts to get away from the desk and chair(big picture mode), to get away from mouse and keyboard(steam controller), to get away from playing games on windows(steamos), it sure is something seeing their efforts that people said were failures come together into what the steam deck is and have it be so successful.
    I just put windows on my steam deck.

  • @buhbuh305
    @buhbuh305 8 місяців тому

    elden ring really put it into perspective with how much work they put into improving their os when i first tried it on steam deck id get 40-50 fps usually around 40 with lows to 30 fps. when i play now its a constant 60 fps now whenever i have a spare 30 minutes i add an extra 15 deaths to mohg

  • @valentds
    @valentds 10 місяців тому

    valve: we failed... successfully

  • @Gubers
    @Gubers 10 місяців тому +1

    Mark my words. Steam Machine will be back. Now that so many people are sold on the Steam Deck and more devs are tuning their games for the SteamOS, I think both devs and PC gamers would be far more likely to try a console-like Steam machine. Just think a Steamdeck with a desktop gaming GPU. I bet a ton of people would buy it. And if they did as well with it as the Steam deck then they might just start taking over the market, eventually having games made just for it or at least for Linux.

  • @InitialDL84
    @InitialDL84 11 місяців тому +2

    I love my Steam Deck to play all the indie games and older AA/AAA titles. I feeel like its the most perfect for indie games. Ill play the more newer/graphics heavy stuff on my PS5.

  • @TheFrantic5
    @TheFrantic5 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm having fun trying to get dumb stuff to run on the deck, but it's too easy. The other day I got nostalgic and installed DevilutionX and threw in a rip of my original Diablo 1 CD, and it just works, and has built-in gamepad controls.

  • @YakultLitro
    @YakultLitro 11 місяців тому

    on 12:43 but Todd Howard of bethesda said we just need to upgrade our hardware to 4090gtx lol

  • @cqllel5186
    @cqllel5186 10 місяців тому

    Rules #1
    Handheld systems are the only exception for pre-built machines

  • @raycasta10
    @raycasta10 11 місяців тому +1

    I think rn the devs r not underestimating the power of the steam deck. Definitely the proton files helped, i rmbr when i booted up madden for the first time, it was so stuttery. Then suddenly a few weeks after, the game runs smoooth.

  • @Lando43
    @Lando43 11 місяців тому +1

    Lies of P plays like butter on the steam deck. All high Settings and I get 45+ fps. a lot of the times i get a stable 50-60

  • @tamertamertamer4874
    @tamertamertamer4874 10 місяців тому

    11:13
    Me: doesn’t own any handheld pc but I do have a Nintendo switch

  • @DarkSiege2
    @DarkSiege2 9 місяців тому

    That Wow Steam deck mod looks sick. I need that.

  • @MGsubbie
    @MGsubbie 10 місяців тому

    8:00 This requires some context though. Bloodborne came out at a time where 30fps was pretty much the standard for the vast majority of console games. While Redfall came out over 2 years into the current generation of consoles, at which point 60fps had become the standard.
    I will say that I want 60fps for all my games. Even turn-based strategy, as those involve a lot of camera panning, which looks really chuggy at 30.

  • @pbnbro
    @pbnbro 11 місяців тому

    I'm a fairly new PC gamer..I knew very little but bought a decent prebuilt recommended by a buddy that pointed me in the right direction. Most my life it's been Playstations. So spec talk and anything super involved is still pretty new and very foreign. I've had steam deck since launch and it's been awesome but equally confusing since I was still trying to figure out Windows..so Linux felt like an even taller order! But came here to say I have a much firmer grasp on what the hell a lot of things are now with Steamdeck because of this video! Thanks man! Subscribed! Keep it up!

    • @DowneyMax
      @DowneyMax 11 місяців тому +1

      proud of you dude, hope you'll figure most things out

  • @GarydeBrown
    @GarydeBrown 9 місяців тому

    The PS Portal hate is fascinating af to me. I have the Oled SD, the ROG Ally and the portal and I *love* the Portal. All these “substitute solutions” do not come close matching the Portal experience at all. If you hate the Portal it’s because your internet sucks or you don’t know how to properly set it up. After the latest software update, it performs even better than at launch.

  • @RabbitConfirmed
    @RabbitConfirmed 9 місяців тому

    Valve could be in charge of this world, and I wouldn't mind.

  • @espiya5557
    @espiya5557 11 місяців тому +1

    If ever Microsoft starts to make their store good, Epic Store will be in trouble. They either become like EA that becomes a third-party launcher for Microsoft Store or ride with Valve for Linux support.

  • @xenos_n.
    @xenos_n. 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm almost 40 and I still say "program" a lot instead of "app" too 💀

  • @Teisharocz
    @Teisharocz 10 місяців тому

    All I want to do is play 7dtd, lol! Not perfect on SD, but I'm getting there. Building is hard!

  • @mechanicalmonk2020
    @mechanicalmonk2020 11 місяців тому

    Pierre Loup is staring into our souls in that video

  • @MasterPJ86
    @MasterPJ86 10 місяців тому

    In the last couple of years Valve has done more for the gamers, the consumers, the hardware and software under Linux environment than anybody else in the last 2 decades. They are a true blessing for the gaming and Linux World.

  • @zipkitty
    @zipkitty 9 місяців тому

    The only mistake that Valve made with the Deck is targeting AAA players with their ads. I know why they did it, they wanted it to be a success. This is the ideal system for emulating older games, playing smaller games and playing with other people on the go with a couple of controllers.

  • @krux02
    @krux02 11 місяців тому

    Dark Souls and Daemon's Souls on release both had locked 30fps. Those games are rather slow paced games and 30 FPS works totally fine. 60 FPS is nicer, but not critical. Those games work on memorizing attack patterns, not on fast response times. Maybe that is why they are so popular, you don't need to be a super human to beat them.

  • @thepatriotsfan7127
    @thepatriotsfan7127 5 місяців тому

    I remember when everyone shat on Valve when they unveiled Artifact back in 2017
    Oh how the turntables

  • @MrValgard
    @MrValgard 10 місяців тому

    is it hard for optimalisation of game to do 2-3 diffrent api calls? why devs can't make win and linux call at same time to make 'universal' build

  • @Carewolf
    @Carewolf 10 місяців тому

    The original Dark Soul itself ran at 30fps. So it isn't that big of a problem. It is infact the origin of the genre.

  • @thebepis712
    @thebepis712 10 місяців тому

    your mic audio is so crisp

  • @MattBooth
    @MattBooth 10 місяців тому

    Steam Machines didn't technically fail, they never took off to start with.

  • @wiipronhi
    @wiipronhi 10 місяців тому

    14:18 " Value has no responsibility to fix Proton when a developer patches a game"
    Excuse me?
    Value is absolutely responsible for making sure that Proton works with games that get patched/updated. It's not the developers responsibility to ensure compatibility with a system that is supposed to directly translate their games to Linux/Steamdeck. If the developer has released a game for Linux directly it's on them but not when using Proton as that isn't something developed by the dev nor something the dev has really opted into thier game using in the first place (in most instances, with the exception being those who have Steamdeck settings profiles).

  • @Bumble-d1e
    @Bumble-d1e 10 місяців тому

    What the heck your content is way to good for that sub count you deserve a milli

  • @paul1979uk2000
    @paul1979uk2000 10 місяців тому

    I think what would be a game changer for the Steam Deck is default profiles for games, so that all you have to do, is run the game and the controls, resolution, visual settings and all that is automatically set.
    This shouldn't be that difficult to do, if Valve were to do it, all they would need to do as you install the game is replace the default config file with one for the Steam Deck that sets the game up to work the best for the hardware, for the gamer, it would feel very close to like playing on a console without having to set anything up.
    It doesn't have to be Valve that does it, the community could do it like we see with the Steam Controller and how the community creates profiles for games, in this case, Valve could pick one of the better ones that works well for the hardware, the developers of the game themselves could do this, it would require very little time to do it, in a sense, all they have to do is set the game up like how PC gamers would normally do but in their case, they would need to test it that it's hitting a specific performance profile, so it runs well.
    Valve could even go further than that, we could have like we see on consoles with a 60fps performance mode or 30fps visual mode, in the case of the Steam Deck, there's also 40fps and even battery saver mode for gamers that want that.
    The potential is massive here for Valve, especially if they appeal to console gamers or even PC gamers that just want to switch on and play without messing about with game settings and drivers and honestly, I'm surprised this hasn't been pushed hard by Valve, especially with the community driven option as I suspect that would pull in a lot more gamers that want to get into PC gaming but don't want the mess that comes with it, Valve are already half way there with the Deck, auto profiling on games would be a game changer.
    With all that said, I suspect as the Deck becomes more popular, probably with the Deck 2 assuming it's a success, more developers will probably do profiles for games that target the hardware, but for now, there's a lot Valve and the community can do already, especially for older games which might not get that kind of support and as I said above, it's just a matter of changing the default config file with settings that work better for the Deck hardware.

  • @studio_beasty
    @studio_beasty 10 місяців тому

    The hardware just got better

  • @mechanicalmonk2020
    @mechanicalmonk2020 11 місяців тому

    DS1, launched at 30fps on all platforms.
    DS2 launched at 30fps on consoles.
    Pretty much every From souls game except for Elden Ring launched at 30 on all the console targets

  • @krux02
    @krux02 11 місяців тому

    regarting 21:43 : no not an Ad on youtube, an ad on steam deck itself for a game. If they buy that and it doesn't work that would be the real frustration. Regarding vale stopping proton. Right now it doesn't seem like it is going to happen, but Microsoft has plans to buy Valve. They don't want to be bought, but it might happen. And then Steam-OS will become variant of windows.

  • @ngsch
    @ngsch 10 місяців тому

    I just wanna see the same thing with Apple computers. Macs (and iPads) running Apple Silicon are such capable machines with big potential for games. It's just a problem of the really expensive porting process that pushes most devs away

  • @WhatWillYouFind
    @WhatWillYouFind 9 місяців тому

    Steam OS wasn't a failure, it was a necessary investment toward what became the Steam Deck. Valve has LONG TERM plans for the longevity of the platform, as opposed to most other companies who only seek the quarterly sales goals. Valve has remained the market leader for over a decade in part because they have tried new things and on the face of it failed, but like with anything you can't learn without failing.

  • @jootersblaccat
    @jootersblaccat 10 місяців тому

    Bloodborne running at 30 fps is one of the most complained about things in the souls fanbase... which says a lot when that is one of the only complaints the fans have about the series

  • @turntprophet7960
    @turntprophet7960 10 місяців тому

    How Gabe Newell regained his neck.

  • @ronaldomanzoli3964
    @ronaldomanzoli3964 11 місяців тому

    I'm playing Elden ring right now on deck with a 30fps cap to help with battery life and as long as frametime is "flat" i can play and dodge and parry at will with no problem.
    30fps is fine if frametime is consistent.

  • @smokers1231000
    @smokers1231000 11 місяців тому

    It is more important that Valve should be looking into errors and bugs for the Steam Deck, owners have been plagued by it in real life. One big problem is suddenly disconnecting from wifi, i don't want to solve that by changing my router settings(not a sure fix as well), I have done that and my wifi turns offline that I have to reset my router to default just to restore my connection, and the infinite "Verifiying" when restarting, the most effective fix for this is to reset the Deck in safe mode which means wiping out your entire ssd which is a real problem. I know Valve has many improvement on every update but it seems these these "minor" problems has not been fix.
    I think you should make a video about these too to point out these problems because in all honesty owning a Steam Deck is not all about bells and whistles, there are real problems. My SD card has been corrupted many times too and no my SD card is not fake because It should not even store large files in the first place if fake. I'm starting to give up on this great machine, but still hope it will be fix soon.

  • @AntonioCunningham
    @AntonioCunningham 11 місяців тому

    I *love* Steam OS compatability, I don't like how unstable the Stable OS is.

  • @HearMeLearn
    @HearMeLearn 11 місяців тому

    I don't like the argument that it's not a console. If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, acts like a duck, it's probably a duck. It's just also a pc. Is the ps2 not a console? Because that can run Linux too technically. Idk why people are so scared to call it what it is: a console. For clarification, a device like Aya neo would not count as a console because it doesn't have it own custom OS, it doesn't have a first party game store pre installed, it's just a gaming laptop in handheld form. The steam deck is a console with a pc mode.

  • @MuffinTheCat
    @MuffinTheCat 10 місяців тому

    I'm personally saving up to use a legion go to replace my deck, I use gamepass, and the only reason I'd not switch to legion go is if gamepass somehow gets on steam

  • @vilpertzon
    @vilpertzon 10 місяців тому

    Can somebody explain me how Shaders work in Windows? From my understanding Windows does not download any shader caches.

  • @millabasset1710
    @millabasset1710 10 місяців тому

    I open Steam to see all of the games for sale
    I can't believe my luck, payment transaction failed

  • @calebrasak6941
    @calebrasak6941 9 місяців тому

    Love my steam deck and LOVE the move to more simple well thought out hardware. I still have my full size desktop with a 3090 but I prefer to game on my steam deck. The Deck just makes me want to play games I wouldnt normally play. My desktop is basically just for FPS games at this point. I do hope Valve offers a better docked desktop experience with the next gen deck. I really hope to see an EGPU docked option (maybe using occulink). If I could get rid of my desktop system I would happily if Valve could figure this out.

  • @blubblurb
    @blubblurb 10 місяців тому

    I hope one day, Valve will do steam machines again. I would buy it instantly. But for know a custom built PC with something like Chimera OS will do its task.

  • @ramstab
    @ramstab 11 місяців тому

    Hypercharge is literally microvolts with only co op

  • @Seb00lean
    @Seb00lean 11 місяців тому

    Everybody who has a slight interest in the deck or handheld pc gaming should watch this video!

  • @alcar32sharif
    @alcar32sharif 10 місяців тому

    Proton is magic.

  • @Dkm337
    @Dkm337 11 місяців тому

    30 should not be the target if possible. 40 is. the best way to enjoy most games.

  • @jimbryant2157
    @jimbryant2157 11 місяців тому

    I am more a 'player' than a 'tweaker,' so I locked my FPS at 40 and have had very few issues playing what I want on my Deck (Wreckfest, Yakusa: Like a Dragon, Monster Hunter Rise, Stray, DOS2, and of course, Vampire Survivors - nothing very 'high end,' but exactly what I got the Deck to do/play). I do appreciate the 'tweakers' (LOVE ProtonDB), but just not me thing.

  • @te0nani
    @te0nani 10 місяців тому

    Valve ist doing a tremendous Job with proton and paying a lot of good devs who are working out the bugs and kinks, but we have to acknowledge that proton exists because of wine and a few developers, ho made dxvk and vkd3d. They made it possible, Valve saw the opportunity and backed it up. And all that was only possible on top of vulkan.

  • @anderssorenson9998
    @anderssorenson9998 10 місяців тому

    Meanwhile Sony and Nintendo are continuously bricking consoles with their updates

  • @provis83
    @provis83 11 місяців тому

    You give Valve credit for fixing other peoples games but that's not whats really going on. They are usually modifying proton so that it interprets correctly. This is only needing fix because its running on proton in most cases. It's in their best interest to do so since this is the platform they've chosen to move forward with.