He defeated Joshua, Dubois and Fury psychologically, that’s part of the reason they couldn’t force their physical dominance. Of course skillset comes into it but mentally he made them all fragile and too scared to take the necessary risks needed to hurt and bully him to make up for their shortfall in skillset.
Get usyk in Wembley vs Dubois and I think Dubois will give him a war, not enough props given to Dubois basically fighting him in his own backyard and not in a great run, now he has some solid wins on his record and if he beats Parker in good style that's the fight for me!
@@NeilMelling-pw6ts- 😂😂, your boy Fury is a pathological liar and a fraud who's been gaslighting the public for years, most objective people who aren't naive Fury fanboys are glad the little middleweight exposed him. Enjoy.
@@TigerShark-n3phe comes across as liking Fury to me. It's called objectivity and integrity. Something the Talksport regulars all lack except Adam Catterall
@@arronchiplin1446 ‘it’s called’ right there you are having a dig yourself! Sorry but that’s not being objective or having integrity, ‘He comes across as liking fury to me’ without providing any proof for the statement you engage in my comment to stir the pot, almost child like, You know following sheep or farmers won’t help you become more intelligent, only depth in oneself will do that.. Your anti woke flavor won’t help you because it blurs your vision.. You gave so much away to your personality in 3 words! Arrogant, ignorant, right up there! Irony..
@@devanman7920 he did fight really well both times. but is just not quite as great as usyk. i think he needed to go full bum rush KO mode in the 2nd fight. nobody can outbox Usyk
Agreed ! He never really went for it in either fight !! even less so in the 2nd fight !! Usyk had his number and Fury knew it ! And he likely knew his only chance was to Bull into Usyk but he did not want to risk getting knocked out himself ! Afraid to out on his Shield !
He tried to grab and lean on Usyk like everyone said, he just couldn't do it because Usyk like Loma is very good at positioning himself in the clinch and isn't just gonna let Fury do that. He's also not good enough to outbox Usyk for any sustained stretch on the outside and the only version of Fury that *maybe* could've pulled that off was the one who fought Wlad almost a decade ago now
@@maxnimmo7809 I think he was so much faster and would feint and move his head so much more against Wlad that it'd be hard to deal with but then if you're doing that it'd only be fair to put him against a younger Usyk too seeing as Usyk's actually older than Fury, just hard to say
It's all very well but Usyk made Fury miss all night and punished him for every small mistake. Turn the sound off and watch it - if you have the patience, slow the video. Fury missed most of his shots, even one of the big uppercuts that knocked Usyk off balance landed on the gloves. Usyk is bettter. Thats it.
@andymcnab2.0 all regurgitating the same old BS “it’s gonna be like wilder second fight” . Can’t even form a solid opinion of their own. Fury is a BS artist he acts like he is ready 24/7 when the reality is he just does a bit of ticking over and just takes it seriously when he has a fight booked.
Muscle mass doesn't make a ko puncher, u either have it or u don't. Just like quittaker, good boxing skills but his power isn't good enough against the better fighters.
These pundits are full of dog 🐕 💩 . AJ rolled the dice and got KOed by DDD, look at the stick they all gave him. Fury got out boxed and couldn’t close down Usyk without getting tagged. It’s easy to criticise from inside a studio lol
Tyson lost his hunger after wilder 3, And fighting whyte, Derek and a mma guy showed us this.. Usyk showed him up, just like bugs bunny does to alma thudd!
Tell fury to stop believing his own bs then, most overrated fighter of the last decade. 4 wins over top 5 ranked opponents in 16 yrs as a pro and hes the goat 🤣🤣🤣
Usyk is the greatest of all time. Undisputed at Cruiserweight and Heavyweight. Nobody has ever given as much weight away. Usyk has stood up against fighters 50lbs heavier and never even been rocked by any opponent
@marcust123 That's Furys logic he's the one that said it and you guys are getting mad trying to defend him arguing against his own logic it's tragic 🤣👍
Usyk bamboozles world champions. He's just better than everyone at heavyweight. It's like playing chess, and you can't figure out why a certain move is being made by your opponent....thats how these guys feel when facing Usyk.
Fury had in his head he was going to smash usyk but you could clearly see he was scared to get hit. Guess that's what happens when you get pinged all around ring!
It's not that Fury was bad its just Usyk is that good. Fury can't impose his weight because Usyk would light him up if he tries to. Also lets be real Tyson hasn't beaten hardly anyone. Wilder who has no notable wins and a 60 year old Klitschko
100% agreed on both points. It's pathetic that fury needs to pretend Wilders an all time great cos without him his resume is a joke. His best opponent was an aged klitschko who absolutely underestimated fury and would imo have won the Rematch. Fury only landed 80 punches in that bout. It was an absolute stinker
Usyk is just faster than Fury. Fury tried to cheat coming in massive against Usyk coz he knows any lighter he gets stopped. But nonetheless he should have come in 20 pounds lighter and slugged it out
@@hms9891non regulation beard, shorts upto his armpits, threw backfists, elbows, had his flappy gloves trick going on. And bizzare stamina considering his frame. Fury indeed tried everything but still got schooled
@hms9891 Tbf cause of Fury we need to have a super heavyweight division, both Usyk and Wilder his biggest opponents were 60,70 pounds lighter than him, that's a huge huge gap it's really unfair towards them that's why there needs to be a new division, and Usyk still beaten him regardless it is what it is.
@@alexenache6942who would fight in that weight class though? Joyce, Fury, Zhang. That's about it. Itd lose its novelty quick. The big man vs the smaller heavyweight is a big part of the appeal. Watching Uysk beat the giant was inpressive
Absolutely deluded to think Tyson could do more than he’s done against a fighter like Usyk. Haye v Valuev size difference was much greater 🤦🏼♂️ clowns. Can’t people understand that size limits speed and movement! Fury moves godlike for his size but Usyk beats him at his own game, nobody else can hold a torch to Tyson’s in this era. Duke didn’t even know Crawford’s already moved and won a title 😂
People are naive to the fact Usyk also trains heavily in Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, and Sambo. He would wreck any of these guy in a real fight, so he’s not intimidated by a bigger man in a boxing ring.
AJ and Tyson are elite boxers. The idea of these commentators saying “go for it, attack him, put your weight on him” I think clearly they are missing the point, if it was that easy to do that to Usyk they would of done it. The point is, IT ISN’T.
@@redblacktichy7713 the klitschko 1 version possibly and this was when fury took fights more seriously when he was on the rise. For years now he just takes it seriously when he has a fight booked.
@@redblacktichy7713 Comparing Usyk to Klitschko is like comparing Appels to Oranges, other than that they are both Ukrainians the similarities stop immediately after that, usyk was always going to be faster and a better mover than fury, a guy that weights 260 or 270 is not going to move better and be more slick and skilled than an elite guy at cruiserweight, fury moved well for his size against another big guy in Klitschko who was bamboozled and a very straightforward opponent and Klitschko was past his best when he fought both fury and AJ. He was still good but definitely not in his prime anymore, also putting younger fury it is not really fair either, by that logic, we will have to put in a younger usyk in order to be fair, and even then fury did not give Klitschko his rematch and did not matte what peapol argue it is not a good look for a champion to refuse another great a rematch, what we do know is that fury and usyk fought one another and usyk won twice, if fury hade more to give it was upp to him to do that not usyk, and usyk is older than fury as well i just don't buy it, a younger fury might do better but we can argue the same for a younger usyk, no realistic version of a usyk and fury fight is going to have fury be capable of outboxing usyk for the majority of 12 rounds, usyk is objectively the better boxer of the two, having had way more amateur fights and having fought better opposition, fury is a good boxer for his size yes, but he still rely a lot on his size, and an usyk would force fury to work constantly even the Klitschko version would have to fight at a pace fury is not use to unless the Klitschko version could take control of the pace of the fight and that would requirer it to deter usyk and you do not do that by simply boxing him and trying to out jab him, that is usyk bread and butter you have to stick somthing on him and that is not how fury fought Klitschko what works for Klitschko does not work for usyk, it is way easier to look fast and slick against a big guy who is past his best compared to an all-time great cruiserweight with advanced footwork, it a completely different world of ability, and fury younger or older has always struggled against smaller guys even getting dropped by them, it just to mutch speculation to relly be grounded in anything
Duke is right. When you insult, bully and boast as much as Fury has, and you have the supreme physical advantages that he does, you have to walk the walk. Instead Usyk beat him up. Fury is great, but Usyk is superior.
"supreme physical advantages" 😂 the guy has a belly and a long guard that didn't work...twice. And he's never been a KO artist. There's lots of British journeymen who went the distance with him.
facts! to call someone a midget and a middleweight and getting beaten up being 4 stone nearly a foot taller, says it all really. fury won’t be remembered
When are people going to wake up to the fact that you can't just smash to pieces a big, tough, hard as nails, ruthless Cossack who can box to a higher level than anyone else? LOL? wake up people!
At the end of the 3rd round Usyk's coach told him "you see, he's afraid of toughness, he's afraid of a tough fight"... Team Usyk spotted Fury had bottled it in round 3.... in the corner after round 1 Usyk made a face and said "is he?" when his trainer said Fury was just testing him.... Usyk knew straight away that Fury had swallowed it 🤣
Easier said than done, as AJ and Fury both found out twice 😂 and Dubois the once, the guy is just super special, a generational fighter, the only one in this era of heavyweights.
@ what like I predicted usyk to beat fury twice, and fury to beat wilder all them times? Simon Jordan is the one who said fury can beat Joshua and usyk in the same night, there you go you absolute knuckle head, you simple fool
@@stephenxx8045 hey divvy, predicted usyk would win both fights and fury to beat wilder all them times. Funny that Simon Jordan once thought fury would beat usyk and Joshua in the same night and have energy left. DELUSIONAL!!
All this conversation about how and why fury lost... but it's nothing to do with that, it's not about fury. Usyk won because he's the best heavyweight boxer of this generation. He's vastly more experienced, way more decorated in boxing accolaids, he's always ready, always focused, always fit. There's no getting past him, the HW division is in Usyk's hands until he leaves the division or just retires.
Why can’t the majority of people just accept that Usyk is just a better boxer than Fury?!?!? Fury could barely make a dent in Usyk over 24 rounds when he has every natural advantage on his side. People just need to wake up and recognise that we are witnessing an all time great in Usyk and that he is another level to anyone else in the heavyweight division
Fury was concerned about what was coming back that's why he fought the way he did. As much as fury likes to shout about usyk not finishing him. Fury didn't want to get hit again by them punches
Tyson Fury clearly isn't good enough to "smash Usyk to pieces", Usyk is too good for Fury and AJ, he beat both of them twice convincingly, Fury performed how he did because he's not that good and never has been
What I dont understand is when people are explaining what Fury should have done different, they act like Usyk wouldnt adept to whatever that change is. While adeptability might be even one of Usyks strongest qualities.
What advantage was there putting on Extra weight and loosing you Stamina ? He had better Tactics this fight but did not have the Stamina to consistently apply it ! He was already what 3 stone heavier than Usyk ! That should have been more than enough to bully the smaller man without putting on extra weight !
Fury said he won’t leave it to the judge he will knock him out because he knew he couldn’t win on points and now wants to moan when Uysk out boxed him 🥵🥵🥵
Funny how Usyk is now one of the best ever, and Tyson Fury doesn't get his flowers. People forget Fury has already won all the belts Usyk holds, is a 2 time world heavyweight champion, former unified world heavyweight champion and the former lineal heavyweight champion. He has already achieved everything in boxing.
Yh i find it strange they all keep saying fury is overrated hes a bum his legs have gone he has pillow fists etc yet hes just had 2 very close fights with usyk the number 1 by there logic usyk is a bum aswel then
24 rounds, almost a KO and pundits still talking about what Fury didn't do instead of what Usyk done. The reason why Fury, Dubois, and Johsua couldn't use their size difference is because Usyk doesn't allow it.
Everything fury said he was going to do ,he failed he’s the bigger man like he likes to say fury got humbled twice he and got saved by the Saudi judges when he fought Francis he won’t show he’s face in boxing nomore
It’s time the boxing media put some respect on Usyk’s name. All the “great” boxing minds have been saying the same since Usyk went up to HW and fought Chisora - that fighters just need to lean on him and use their power to dominate. Yet everyone has tried that and Usyk always finds a way to win. It’s time to accept Usyk is a generational great and enjoy being in the same era as him.
Fury was affected by that 9th round hiding from the 1st fight and didn't want to roll the dice in the rematch and risk unravelling again. Therefore he settled into a tactical chess match in which he could control the damage limitation more and that's where he lost the fight.
HE LOST TO A GUY HE CALLED A AN EASY TO BEAT SMALL MIDDLEWEIGHT. TYSON FURY DESERVES EVERY RIDICULE HE GETS FROM HERE ON OUT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fury never went for it because he knew he would get stretched. Usyk has serious power. Fury felt it in the first fight. All that “Usyk is a middleweight BS” was for show. Fury knew Usyk was no joke.
The logic, is flawed. You could see Fury leaning on Usky, and pushing his weight. But Usky would vedge his arm in between them, so he couldn't gain a physical advantage. It's hard to catch Usky because he is so fast and constantly switching.
Usyk doesn't belong to that category. He's lighter and faster than everyone else. He takes hits well but lacks power Tyson was great but the problem was that Usyk kept jumping left and right and he couldn't aim at him. Usyk didn't show anything except that he's fast as a rabbit.
Ohhh so sick of this fickle crap. Everyone slated AJ for "rolling the dice" , now the same experts are saying fury should have "rolled the dice" It was highest level boxing, close and styles make fights
Duke is way of base I can’t remember the last time there was a 4 stone weight advantage and the challenger didn’t walk away with the title. Valuev vs Haye immediately comes to mind
Duke is talking absolute nonsense. WBA champ Nicola Valuev was 7 stone heavier than David Haye when they fought, yet Valuev was no where near getting a stoppage - despite the massive weight 'advantage' - and Valuev actually lost on points to Haye by a similar margin to how Fury lost to Usyk. Duke's criticism of Fury is also unfair.........Fury vs Usyk 2 was a draw for me, very close definitely.
Yes, you bum I did get knocked out three times but I also won world titles in three different weight categories I would love to know what your glittering career was like the only belt you won Was the one that keeps your trousers up Before you criticise me, take a look in the mirror when you’re sober Mr. Never was you haven’t got the guts to get into a boxing ring if you did you would’ve done it by now Talk cheap
Usky will never give his opponents the chance to knock him out,boxing fans should just accept that fury is an elite boxer.Tyson fury is an average boxer nowhere near Usky's level.
I never thought Fury was anything special. None of them are. The cream of the HW crop beat an aging Klitchko, a bomber who can’t box, and a bloke called Charles Martin. Usyk has always impressed me though.
Does Duke REALLY think Fury v AJ is 2 v 3 in the world?? Maybe a couple of years ago… AJ probably not even top 5 right now. They’ve dodged each other for far too long and missed their shot. Sure, people would still love to see the fight, but it’s not the event it could have been
Everyone thinks they know what needs to be done against Usyk. Nobody has done it. Same parroted talking points again and again.
He defeated Joshua, Dubois and Fury psychologically, that’s part of the reason they couldn’t force their physical dominance. Of course skillset comes into it but mentally he made them all fragile and too scared to take the necessary risks needed to hurt and bully him to make up for their shortfall in skillset.
Chisora did............and got robbed
His feet...
Noone can put it on him
Get usyk in Wembley vs Dubois and I think Dubois will give him a war, not enough props given to Dubois basically fighting him in his own backyard and not in a great run, now he has some solid wins on his record and if he beats Parker in good style that's the fight for me!
@@dacedrussthe Chisora fight wasn’t even close 🙄
He lost cos he's not good enough. Why does TS hate Usyk. Put some respect on his name. Ffs
That comment shows you don't actually know anything about fury or boxing
@@NeilMelling-pw6ts- 😂😂, your boy Fury is a pathological liar and a fraud who's been gaslighting the public for years, most objective people who aren't naive Fury fanboys are glad the little middleweight exposed him. Enjoy.
@@NeilMelling-pw6tshe’s not wrong though Fury lost coz he’s not good enough.
@@Kaikai349 he said fury hates usyk when they are best mates
@@NeilMelling-pw6ts Lol nah you’re actually dumb 😂 he said Talksport hate Usyk not Tyson
Duke is trolling Fury fans at this point he’s the one that picked Usyk lmao
Thats what i was thinking haha
Great analysis from Duke again. One of the few people in boxing worth listening to.
😂
@@TigerShark-n3phe comes across as liking Fury to me. It's called objectivity and integrity. Something the Talksport regulars all lack except Adam Catterall
@@arronchiplin1446 ‘it’s called’ right there you are having a dig yourself! Sorry but that’s not being objective or having integrity,
‘He comes across as liking fury to me’ without providing any proof for the statement you engage in my comment to stir the pot, almost child like,
You know following sheep or farmers won’t help you become more intelligent, only depth in oneself will do that..
Your anti woke flavor won’t help you because it blurs your vision..
You gave so much away to your personality in 3 words! Arrogant, ignorant, right up there!
Irony..
Yes im a fan of duke, had never heard of him before despite being a multi weight champion until talk sport took him on
Fury knew he couldn't win going into the rematch. He fought to survive and hoped the judges would gift him the decision
This is the answer. He was cagey and hoped it might be close and go his way
@@devanman7920 he did fight really well both times. but is just not quite as great as usyk. i think he needed to go full bum rush KO mode in the 2nd fight. nobody can outbox Usyk
Agreed ! He never really went for it in either fight !! even less so in the 2nd fight !! Usyk had his number and Fury knew it ! And he likely knew his only chance was to Bull into Usyk but he did not want to risk getting knocked out himself ! Afraid to out on his Shield !
Spot on
This 100%.
He tried to grab and lean on Usyk like everyone said, he just couldn't do it because Usyk like Loma is very good at positioning himself in the clinch and isn't just gonna let Fury do that. He's also not good enough to outbox Usyk for any sustained stretch on the outside and the only version of Fury that *maybe* could've pulled that off was the one who fought Wlad almost a decade ago now
Only worked on the Ukrainian
I agree but I don't think any version of fury beats usyk tbh
@@maxnimmo7809 Agreed Vlad was not near as good as Usyk !
@@maxnimmo7809 I think he was so much faster and would feint and move his head so much more against Wlad that it'd be hard to deal with but then if you're doing that it'd only be fair to put him against a younger Usyk too seeing as Usyk's actually older than Fury, just hard to say
More clutching at straws. All Fury fans have is could’ve should’ve would’ve!
Finally we can hear duke finish a full sentence, when Simon & Spence ain’t there lol
That's about right 😂
It's all very well but Usyk made Fury miss all night and punished him for every small mistake. Turn the sound off and watch it - if you have the patience, slow the video. Fury missed most of his shots, even one of the big uppercuts that knocked Usyk off balance landed on the gloves. Usyk is bettter. Thats it.
At last, someone who watched the same fight as me.
Did Fury win a single round?
Usyk outboxed fury it's that simple he's a true champion ❤
you can't see anything when you slow down. Look at Usyk's face. It says more than a thousand words. Tyson beat him badly
@@MrKruki Fury landed 28% of his shots = he missed most of them. It's not a proposition from Descartes 🤣🤣
Most media people didn't think for 1 second that Uysk was going to be any better than the first fight.
It was all about how Fury was going to change.
@andymcnab2.0 all regurgitating the same old BS “it’s gonna be like wilder second fight” . Can’t even form a solid opinion of their own. Fury is a BS artist he acts like he is ready 24/7 when the reality is he just does a bit of ticking over and just takes it seriously when he has a fight booked.
Turki Alalsheik is not a billionaire sheik, he is an employed man
Exactly...delusional, Fury this, Fury that. The guy is shot, simple as.
I just think there isn't enough respect given to Usyk's power. Fury felt every punch and was afraid to roll the dice.
Same as Joshua
Yar, he hurt Fury a few times
Fury was good Usyk was better
Usyk analyzed the first fight carefully and made the necessary adjustments. Fury was too arrogant to do that.
Fury doesn't have the punch power to smash anyone to pieces.his muscle mass for 20 stone man is poor
Muscle mass doesn't make a ko puncher, u either have it or u don't. Just like quittaker, good boxing skills but his power isn't good enough against the better fighters.
It helps. Love handles dont@@kingkongsson1
Duke Mackenzie is a real one. One of few people in the public that is unbiased towards Fury.
Real good commentary by Duke
Lol
These pundits are full of dog 🐕 💩 . AJ rolled the dice and got KOed by DDD, look at the stick they all gave him. Fury got out boxed and couldn’t close down Usyk without getting tagged. It’s easy to criticise from inside a studio lol
Usek don’t do loseing ! No one wants to see Daniel V usek 😂 usek stopped him with a jab 😂
Fury said he had to knock Usyk out not once did he put it on Usyk and try to dominate him he can only blame himself.
He did try. But Usyk made him miss and countered. Fury threw over 500 punches and missed 72%
Tyson lost his hunger after wilder 3,
And fighting whyte, Derek and a mma guy showed us this..
Usyk showed him up, just like bugs bunny does to alma thudd!
@@TigerShark-n3p😂
Joshua tried to smash him to pieces and could barely lay a glove on him.
@@jamesjarrett52 AJ definitely didn’t try to smash him to pieces, wow, almost irony..
Easier said than done.
and fury lies more than he tells the truth
Tell fury to stop believing his own bs then, most overrated fighter of the last decade. 4 wins over top 5 ranked opponents in 16 yrs as a pro and hes the goat 🤣🤣🤣
If Fury was good enough, maybe he would have won.
40 pounds of flab is not an advantage !
Usyk is the greatest of all time. Undisputed at Cruiserweight and Heavyweight. Nobody has ever given as much weight away. Usyk has stood up against fighters 50lbs heavier and never even been rocked by any opponent
Yet Dubois beat him
On the gear, just never been caught, often goes “missing” hard to get a test when a war is brewing and he’s volunteering
Hes only beat bums tho at hw
Calm down will there’s other divisions in boxing
@@marcust123 how many other heavyweight world champions are there for him to beat?
Fury got beat by a middleweight he was never any good
Same as AJ
AJ lost hunger after Ruiz battered him, and fury lost his after wilder 3..
They have milked fans for years, including me..!
So by your logic usyk is no good then either
@marcust123 That's Furys logic he's the one that said it and you guys are getting mad trying to defend him arguing against his own logic it's tragic 🤣👍
21.09.24 ⚰️ HUW EVANS aka OVERWEIGHT OWEN COLLINS
Usyk is a super athlete even at 37yrs old. Martin cant move and would be a punching bag..
Technically, he doesn't need to move. He's taller and has bigger arms. Usyk has to come to him
@@arronchiplin1446 "Technically, he doesn't need to move" ???????
Usyk bamboozles world champions. He's just better than everyone at heavyweight. It's like playing chess, and you can't figure out why a certain move is being made by your opponent....thats how these guys feel when facing Usyk.
He's thinking several moves ahead ♟️then its checkmate
Fury had in his head he was going to smash usyk but you could clearly see he was scared to get hit. Guess that's what happens when you get pinged all around ring!
He crushed Usyk, the only thing missing was the finishing blow.
It's not that Fury was bad its just Usyk is that good. Fury can't impose his weight because Usyk would light him up if he tries to.
Also lets be real Tyson hasn't beaten hardly anyone. Wilder who has no notable wins and a 60 year old Klitschko
100% agreed on both points. It's pathetic that fury needs to pretend Wilders an all time great cos without him his resume is a joke. His best opponent was an aged klitschko who absolutely underestimated fury and would imo have won the Rematch. Fury only landed 80 punches in that bout. It was an absolute stinker
Yay!
Yes, Usyk fought the best. Still wonder how easy Usyk was maneuvering Fury with all that weight at will. Usyk wasn't scared at any point!
Usyk is just faster than Fury. Fury tried to cheat coming in massive against Usyk coz he knows any lighter he gets stopped. But nonetheless he should have come in 20 pounds lighter and slugged it out
How is it cheating coming in bigger ya div ?
@@hms9891by cheating in the clinch
@@hms9891non regulation beard, shorts upto his armpits, threw backfists, elbows, had his flappy gloves trick going on. And bizzare stamina considering his frame. Fury indeed tried everything but still got schooled
@hms9891 Tbf cause of Fury we need to have a super heavyweight division, both Usyk and Wilder his biggest opponents were 60,70 pounds lighter than him, that's a huge huge gap it's really unfair towards them that's why there needs to be a new division, and Usyk still beaten him regardless it is what it is.
@@alexenache6942who would fight in that weight class though? Joyce, Fury, Zhang. That's about it.
Itd lose its novelty quick. The big man vs the smaller heavyweight is a big part of the appeal.
Watching Uysk beat the giant was inpressive
beaten by the middleweight, fury is a fraud
Absolutely deluded to think Tyson could do more than he’s done against a fighter like Usyk. Haye v Valuev size difference was much greater 🤦🏼♂️ clowns. Can’t people understand that size limits speed and movement! Fury moves godlike for his size but Usyk beats him at his own game, nobody else can hold a torch to Tyson’s in this era. Duke didn’t even know Crawford’s already moved and won a title 😂
People are naive to the fact Usyk also trains heavily in Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, and Sambo. He would wreck any of these guy in a real fight, so he’s not intimidated by a bigger man in a boxing ring.
He definitely does Sambo don't know about Jiu Jitsu but Sambo is very prevalent and popular in both Ukraine and Russia especially Russia.
AJ and Tyson are elite boxers. The idea of these commentators saying “go for it, attack him, put your weight on him” I think clearly they are missing the point, if it was that easy to do that to Usyk they would of done it. The point is, IT ISN’T.
Get Keir Starmer out of 10 Downjng Street right now
Stick to the topic at hand
And go back to the conservatives? Joker
@JackNulty24 Shut up
It’s a stitch up. Vote and you give authority to be ruled by a fascist regime.
For what? Farage the banker
He makes them look pedestrian... Great quote
4 stone heavier correct BUT no one can keep up with the engine of uysk its not rocket science he’s just a machine
If you come heavy, your tactics is to swipe the guy out within 4. Fury has pillow fists, whys he coming in that fat.
Well said The Duke 💪🏽😎
usyk is that good. fury did as well as usyk allowed him. no version of fury beats the ukranian.
Maybe the Klitschko 1 version
@@redblacktichy7713 the klitschko 1 version possibly and this was when fury took fights more seriously when he was on the rise. For years now he just takes it seriously when he has a fight booked.
@@redblacktichy7713 Comparing Usyk to Klitschko is like comparing Appels to Oranges, other than that they are both Ukrainians the similarities stop immediately after that, usyk was always going to be faster and a better mover than fury, a guy that weights 260 or 270 is not going to move better and be more slick and skilled than an elite guy at cruiserweight,
fury moved well for his size against another big guy in Klitschko who was bamboozled and a very straightforward opponent and Klitschko was past his best when he fought both fury and AJ. He was still good but definitely not in his prime anymore, also putting younger fury it is not really fair either,
by that logic, we will have to put in a younger usyk in order to be fair, and even then fury did not give Klitschko his rematch and did not matte what peapol argue it is not a good look for a champion to refuse another great a rematch, what we do know is that fury and usyk fought one another and usyk won twice, if fury hade more to give it was upp to him to do that not usyk, and usyk is older than fury as well i just don't buy it, a younger fury might do better but we can argue the same for a younger usyk, no realistic version of a usyk and fury fight is going to have fury be capable of outboxing usyk for the majority of 12 rounds, usyk is objectively the better boxer of the two,
having had way more amateur fights and having fought better opposition, fury is a good boxer for his size yes, but he still rely a lot on his size, and an usyk would force fury to work constantly even the Klitschko version would have to fight at a pace fury is not use to unless the Klitschko version could take control of the pace of the fight and that would requirer it to deter usyk and you do not do that by simply boxing him and trying to out jab him, that is usyk bread and butter you have to stick somthing on him and that is not how fury fought Klitschko
what works for Klitschko does not work for usyk, it is way easier to look fast and slick against a big guy who is past his best compared to an all-time great cruiserweight with advanced footwork, it a completely different world of ability, and fury younger or older has always struggled against smaller guys even getting dropped by them, it just to mutch speculation to relly be grounded in anything
@redblacktichy7713 24 year old Usyk would kill Fury
There's a Jamaican saying.....
"He doesn't mess about"
When Fury walked into the ring with his shorts hiked up to his neck it was clear Fury knew he was facing a hard struggle.
Duke is right. When you insult, bully and boast as much as Fury has, and you have the supreme physical advantages that he does, you have to walk the walk. Instead Usyk beat him up. Fury is great, but Usyk is superior.
Agreed usyk went into both fights ‘the bigger they are the harder they fall’
@@RegiyThorntonthat’s what every little person says 😂
usyk is not little
"supreme physical advantages" 😂 the guy has a belly and a long guard that didn't work...twice. And he's never been a KO artist. There's lots of British journeymen who went the distance with him.
facts! to call someone a midget and a middleweight and getting beaten up being 4 stone nearly a foot taller, says it all really. fury won’t be remembered
When are people going to wake up to the fact that you can't just smash to pieces a big, tough, hard as nails, ruthless Cossack who can box to a higher level than anyone else? LOL? wake up people!
At the end of the 3rd round Usyk's coach told him "you see, he's afraid of toughness, he's afraid of a tough fight"... Team Usyk spotted Fury had bottled it in round 3.... in the corner after round 1 Usyk made a face and said "is he?" when his trainer said Fury was just testing him.... Usyk knew straight away that Fury had swallowed it 🤣
Easier said than done, as AJ and Fury both found out twice 😂 and Dubois the once, the guy is just super special, a generational fighter, the only one in this era of heavyweights.
4 stone heavier doesn’t mean he should smashed Usyk, there’s something called technique and that’s what Usyk had even when fury was leaning on him
Joshua ko's Fury
Stop it lol aj has zero defence it would be so 1 sided
@marcust123 Another daft Fury fan. AJ is a much better fighter. Look at what he did to Ngannou. Fury lost to him,
@@DanielCordone9 your trolling you gotta be lmao did you not watch aj last fight? He got destroyed by that bum quitter dubois stop it man lol
@marcust123 lol you've got to be realistic. Joshua and Dubois both ko Fury
Duke one of the minority who keeps it real 😂 guys like Simon Jordan are simpletons with boxing predictions and knowledge
Why don't you predict mate? Let it be known and we see how good you are.
@ what like I predicted usyk to beat fury twice, and fury to beat wilder all them times? Simon Jordan is the one who said fury can beat Joshua and usyk in the same night, there you go you absolute knuckle head, you simple fool
@@stephenxx8045 hey divvy, predicted usyk would win both fights and fury to beat wilder all them times.
Funny that Simon Jordan once thought fury would beat usyk and Joshua in the same night and have energy left. DELUSIONAL!!
I think we all know Fury isn't anywhere near as good as he thinks he is. Same for Joshua. Same for Wilder. Poor division
Talk Sport are always biased against Usyk . No respect for what he’s achieved .
Usyk did get a gift. It was Fury coming in fatter than a Christmas Turkey.
Good one
All this conversation about how and why fury lost... but it's nothing to do with that, it's not about fury. Usyk won because he's the best heavyweight boxer of this generation. He's vastly more experienced, way more decorated in boxing accolaids, he's always ready, always focused, always fit. There's no getting past him, the HW division is in Usyk's hands until he leaves the division or just retires.
Fury vs Usyk is done now, but how funny would it be if Fury lost to AJ! The TalkSPORT spin on that would register on the Richter scale.
Fury can only do what he is capable of doing which is not good enough to win, you all making excuses for fury as if he is supposed to win
Why can’t the majority of people just accept that Usyk is just a better boxer than Fury?!?!? Fury could barely make a dent in Usyk over 24 rounds when he has every natural advantage on his side. People just need to wake up and recognise that we are witnessing an all time great in Usyk and that he is another level to anyone else in the heavyweight division
Pure sense spoken. All that talk about bringing a world of pain in the rematch and yet he gets in there and tries to nick a points decision.
Duke likely recognises it, but TalkSPORT really need to wake up & acknowledge how crazy good Usyk's resume is.
Hes only beaten bums at hw tho
Fury was concerned about what was coming back that's why he fought the way he did. As much as fury likes to shout about usyk not finishing him. Fury didn't want to get hit again by them punches
The Brits r so bias. Uysk isa ,legend. David beat Goliath and didn't even break a sweat the truth hurts england. Get over it .
Tyson Fury clearly isn't good enough to "smash Usyk to pieces", Usyk is too good for Fury and AJ, he beat both of them twice convincingly, Fury performed how he did because he's not that good and never has been
I donk give a sht about these so called experts on boxing they have been made to look silly time after time. Parker knocks out Daniel Dubois 👊
What I dont understand is when people are explaining what Fury should have done different, they act like Usyk wouldnt adept to whatever that change is. While adeptability might be even one of Usyks strongest qualities.
What advantage was there putting on Extra weight and loosing you Stamina ? He had better Tactics this fight but did not have the Stamina to consistently apply it ! He was already what 3 stone heavier than Usyk ! That should have been more than enough to bully the smaller man without putting on extra weight !
& the crazy thing is that Fury's correct fighting weight is just 248 lbs. Even at 262 he was a full stone overweight.
Fury said he won’t leave it to the judge he will knock him out because he knew he couldn’t win on points and now wants to moan when Uysk out boxed him 🥵🥵🥵
dukes head shape is wonky?
Usyk is that good. That's the only answer. Tyson can't beat him.
Glad Duke is getting the airtime - one of the most knowledgable experts / ex fighters out there
Usyk knocked the stuffing out of him in the first fight, he knew what was coming back at him, and he bottled it. Simple as.
Funny how Usyk is now one of the best ever, and Tyson Fury doesn't get his flowers. People forget Fury has already won all the belts Usyk holds, is a 2 time world heavyweight champion, former unified world heavyweight champion and the former lineal heavyweight champion. He has already achieved everything in boxing.
Yh i find it strange they all keep saying fury is overrated hes a bum his legs have gone he has pillow fists etc yet hes just had 2 very close fights with usyk the number 1 by there logic usyk is a bum aswel then
In other words a has been !
"theres a jamaican saying: he doesnt mess around". 🤔
24 rounds, almost a KO and pundits still talking about what Fury didn't do instead of what Usyk done. The reason why Fury, Dubois, and Johsua couldn't use their size difference is because Usyk doesn't allow it.
For a special fight they should have had 15 rounds to truly see the warrior in them
Fury just not good enough simple as!
You have to knock out Usyk twice to knock him out once. Never warmed to Fury, but there's no shame in being outboxed by an ATG.
Love how the British can’t just accept the fact Usyk is just on a different level 🤣
At no point in 24 rounds did Usyk look in trouble!
Everything fury said he was going to do ,he failed he’s the bigger man like he likes to say fury got humbled twice he and got saved by the Saudi judges when he fought Francis he won’t show he’s face in boxing nomore
Duke knows much more about boxing than most. He’s spot on 4 stone is massive and never used his advantage!
Never ever let the guy in blue shirt speak about boxing again.
Dubois is about to look awful against Parker. People don't understand how bad Joshua's was defensively. Parker is very underrated.
It’s time the boxing media put some respect on Usyk’s name. All the “great” boxing minds have been saying the same since Usyk went up to HW and fought Chisora - that fighters just need to lean on him and use their power to dominate. Yet everyone has tried that and Usyk always finds a way to win. It’s time to accept Usyk is a generational great and enjoy being in the same era as him.
Fury was affected by that 9th round hiding from the 1st fight and didn't want to roll the dice in the rematch and risk unravelling again. Therefore he settled into a tactical chess match in which he could control the damage limitation more and that's where he lost the fight.
Only thing I’d say to Duke on the weight argument, look at Haye vs Valuev.
HE LOST TO A GUY HE CALLED A AN EASY TO BEAT SMALL MIDDLEWEIGHT. TYSON FURY DESERVES EVERY RIDICULE HE GETS FROM HERE ON OUT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fury never went for it because he knew he would get stretched. Usyk has serious power. Fury felt it in the first fight. All that “Usyk is a middleweight BS” was for show. Fury knew Usyk was no joke.
The logic, is flawed. You could see Fury leaning on Usky, and pushing his weight. But Usky would vedge his arm in between them, so he couldn't gain a physical advantage. It's hard to catch Usky because he is so fast and constantly switching.
What was weight difference between Haye and Valuev
He could no smash a egg shell
Usyk doesn't belong to that category. He's lighter and faster than everyone else.
He takes hits well but lacks power
Tyson was great but the problem was that Usyk kept jumping left and right and he couldn't aim at him.
Usyk didn't show anything except that he's fast as a rabbit.
Ohhh so sick of this fickle crap.
Everyone slated AJ for "rolling the dice" , now the same experts are saying fury should have "rolled the dice"
It was highest level boxing, close and styles make fights
Usyk is the better fighter. End of discussion.
Fury and AJ aren't 2 and 3 in Britain never mind the world
Fury got battered end of story
Duke is way of base
I can’t remember the last time there was a 4 stone weight advantage and the challenger didn’t walk away with the title.
Valuev vs Haye immediately comes to mind
Duke is talking absolute nonsense. WBA champ Nicola Valuev was 7 stone heavier than David Haye when they fought, yet Valuev was no where near getting a stoppage - despite the massive weight 'advantage' - and Valuev actually lost on points to Haye by a similar margin to how Fury lost to Usyk. Duke's criticism of Fury is also unfair.........Fury vs Usyk 2 was a draw for me, very close definitely.
Duke mckenzie is a bum. Got ko'd 3 times.
Yes, you bum I did get knocked out three times but I also won world titles in three different weight categories I would love to know what your glittering career was like the only belt you won Was the one that keeps your trousers up Before you criticise me, take a look in the mirror when you’re sober Mr. Never was you haven’t got the guts to get into a boxing ring if you did you would’ve done it by now Talk cheap
Joker by name you an absolute clown and probably another GAD who licks the ass of Luke Fury and Bricktop. You either a troll or dumb!
Don't think people realise how easy joshua made that Dubois
Cudos to the special effects team on the night. They managed to use CGI to hide the strings that Usky was pulling on Fury.
Usky will never give his opponents the chance to knock him out,boxing fans should just accept that fury is an elite boxer.Tyson fury is an average boxer nowhere near Usky's level.
I never thought Fury was anything special. None of them are. The cream of the HW crop beat an aging Klitchko, a bomber who can’t box, and a bloke called Charles Martin. Usyk has always impressed me though.
Parker is better than hirgovic..
He will beat dubois easily
Does Duke REALLY think Fury v AJ is 2 v 3 in the world?? Maybe a couple of years ago… AJ probably not even top 5 right now.
They’ve dodged each other for far too long and missed their shot. Sure, people would still love to see the fight, but it’s not the event it could have been
BACOLE lost to Hunter who Usyk's beat
It's Bakole.?...shows how much of a fan you are. Can't even spell his name
@BigStuCorby yes, I'm not a fan of his
Cant believe Duke just put Fisher in the same bracket as Itauma 🤦🏻♂️😆
Spot-on Duke McKenzie.
Unlike the presenters, who are forever making arm and hand signals to each other and end up looking like complete plonkers.