Duke McKenzie got it right AGAIN. Instead of forming baseless opinions almost dismissing the first fight, maybe Simon and Spencer should've listened to Duke
Duke has always been one of the best pundits in boxing, he was a great fighter and he knows boxing and doesn't have an alliance to anyone so he gives his honest opinion
They also underrate the Klitschko's era just because its not an anglo country. If you ask other people in Europe the opinions are the other way around, just look at stats, 13 years dominating the Heavyweight division continuously without pause, only comparable maybe to Joe Louis but Joe Lost fights along the way and was finished by 36 just like Ali, not like the Klitschko's who were on top until 40, and Wladimir still fit.
Fury Won the first six rounds I don’t know what people are watching the last six rounds. Maybe he won one or two rounds? It was split decision or a draw. There’s no way uskyno 10-8 rounds
Simon is an honest presenter. GAD is also a fan of Anthony Joshua. Johnny Nelson, Tony Bellew, Spencer Fearon etc are biased Anthony Joshua bootlickers and at the same time hate Fury😂
Duke seems to have a dislike for Fury though. And i think it dictates his opinion of him. For instance Fury didnt do anything he said he would. Everything before a fight is just talk and loads of fighters have won by doing things they never mentioned aswell.
@@paulos1878sorry, I'm not a Fury fan, but I thought if he came in and ragdoll Usyk, like he said 🤔, that had me worried. Stop being a fan boy. Duke is on the money.
Duke’s analysis makes sense the others clearly don’t understand the game. Let the man speak!! Usyk is the only heavyweight with real boxing IQ and technical skill, which says a lot about how poor the rest are.
Agreed, I always felt Deontay Wilder was an atrocious boxer but he had a devastating right cross. It was in Tyson Fury's interests to talk him up because it sold more tickets.
Good point. One of the things that Fury brought into the ring, that Wilder had not faced since perhaps his first half a dozen professional fights, was someone who was not scared of Wilder.
Usyk is better than fury. Don’t know why people complicate it. All the physical attributes are in fury’s favour. weight, height, reach, potentially power. But he lost twice. Reason: Usyk is a better boxer. Us brits are patriotic to the point where it becomes insufferable delusion to other nations, we must make everyone laugh. Think we need to put respect on Usyks name. The guy has battered everyone at crusierweight. Moved up became undisputed at heavyweight. And took out all our best fighters on the way. Humbled a nation. Think once everyone rewatches the fights a couple of years on we will realise that it should have been two 116-112s rather than one split and one unanimous. I challenge anyone to argue those facts
I'm Australian so I don't have a dog in this fight. That said, there's nothing wrong withsupporting a fellow countryman in a sporting contest. The issue is this.... are you an informed boxing fan, or a casual boxing fan? Take Dominic Ingle for example. He's a huge fan of Tyson Fury but even he predicted Usyk for this 2nd fight because "once somebody has your number, they usually don't give that away, and Usyk is too good to do that."
Yeah the same thing happened when he beat Joshua. Then the low blow with Dubois. It's just boring at this point. These guys are lucky they're massive otherwise they'd have all been stopped.
I'm English and so bloody glad Usyk won. Anyone with half a brain, which sadly, former boxers don't have, knows who won the fight, knows who trains and conducts himself properly. Complete joke. The UK Butterbean lost for a reason. 😂
@@hurley31 totally agree with this. If Dubois, AJ and fury are all 6”3 and 220lbs they don’t last. Dubois didn’t, AJ nearly finished in the first fight and Usyk ran out of time in the 9th round in the first first against Fury. The size of these blokes was the challenge for Usyk not their skill. And he proved size doesn’t really matter
Usyk HAS COMPLETED the full boxing game at 100% via World Gold, Olympic Gold, Muhammad Ali trophy, Undisputed Cruiserweight, Undisputed Heavyweight, Lineal, Ring Magazine, Undefeated, Pound for Pound #1, TBE, The Greatest. There’s just beauty in symmetry!
It's wasn't that bad , they watch it again and agree Usyk won They are from UK its allowed to a Fury fan Even Simon was ok in this one They will allways be bias to a UK fighter, I think that's OK I'm bias too
I find it embarrassing that a man 6 inches taller and weighing the equivalent of a small person heavier than Usyk complains on a points loss Embarrassing
Usyk beat the boxing establishment for the sake of boxing integrity, the real boxing fans and boxing history. He should be the king of England at this point. Usyk is precious. He must be protected and retire. His legacy as the GOAT is sealed.
They are British so they will be bias, dont think it's a big deal Simon can piss me of , but he was good in this one They do get mocked a lot in comments they ofc know that They are friends with Fury - not a big deal for me They even said it was 7- 5 Just have people like Duke more on
It baffles me that Simon and Spencer can't understand what a low blow Is. A low blow doesn't have to be being punched in the balls. Anything below the belly button is low. Usyk shorts were not high at all and Dubois certainly connected below the belly button. Other than the low blow controversy Usyk dominated Dubois anyway.
So true...these guys are just yappers anyway...everyone's an expert, even the boxers and they all disagree with each other...so there are NO experts only opinions...
Ah thank goodness someone talking sense. You are completely correct. This is something only casual fans assert. Why these commentators make the same dumb assertion is beyond me
At what point is someone going to mention that Oscar De La Hoya said Usyk won by 2, yet Frank Warren says ODLH said Fury won by 3!!! This was direct from Oscar STRAIGHT after the fight on UA-cam, not hearsay, unless it was AI don’t think AI could be that fast!
To clear up the weight issue, I can tell you why Tyson came in heavy, he’s actually had a problem with his feet, he couldn’t keep them out of the pantry
"The best version of Fury beats the best version of Usyk"! How many times did we hear Jordan 'trott' that line out!! Amazingly I think he still believes it!
@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.GrandmaJohnny Nelson also said Fury would win second time round I’ve never known Nelson to get a big prediction right. I’d love to know what Haye thought before the fight.
Literally just spreading blatant misinformation, I noticed that too! Most fans won't know what Turki said! Jordan seems ot have an axe to grind, probably wants to be banned by riyadh seaosn so he can cry about it & create a big headline
Fury might move pretty fast for his size but his hand speed has always been laboured cause of his size,, his, arms are long as anything obviously weigh a lot, now he's older his hand speed is even slower, his punches or flurry of punches looked absolutely pathetic, no snap of power at all, I never bought into fury being this bigger puncher with kronk, hes never been able to punch even in sparring someone who sparred both fury and usyk said usyk kits harder and had more snap so all that extra weight meant nothing... Fury admitted he didn't punch hard when he was only a couple of fights in 15 years ago... That was never gonna change punchers are born
Duke McKenzie needs to be used more as a boxing pundit. He's very knowledgeable, has great insights and tells it like it is. Also, unlike Spencer Oliver, he isn't a fan boy.
Spencer is right about what sugar hill meant before the 12th, sugar said “there is no tomorrow” (pinched from Rocky 3 by the way) which is easily interpreted to… you need this bloody round
And he went out & did the same thing, Fury looked worse in this fight. Idk why everyone is going on about he looked better, he lost more clearly than the first fight 😂 he had no moment of dominance, Usyk did his thing & wasn’t in trouble
Talksport please coach Oliver. Needs a lot of improvement. Keeps interrupting. Let others speak. Stop saying “ what I’m saying is “ - starting to find it grating.
Simon Jordan is clueless. Still won’t give Usyk full credit and taking sly digs because he was wrong yet again. Saying Usyk is “beatable”, well anyone is technically, but he wasn’t close to being beat or a unanimous decision. He doesn’t understand what he’s watching. Simon can't deal with being wrong
Beatable yes. Just not by Joshua, Fury, Wilder or anyone else currently in the heavyweight division. They're all too slow or don't have the skillset to compete. Or the cardio.
Frank talks a lot of crap. Oscar De La Hoya said after the fight he agreed with the judge's decision. Turki said he thought Usyk won by four rounds and Alex Krassyuk said they only thing they were disagreeing about was whether Usyk won by 4 or 6 rounds. So his line about "the whole of the front row" (thinking Fury won) is just a bare faced lie. The only people that had him for him were him, Arum and Hearn (i.e. people that stood to make more money out of a Fury win)
He didn't come in too big/heavy, his muscle mass wasn't there, it was fat. Without that muscle, his punches are not strong enough. He looked totally different in wilder 2, when he looked invincible. His whole upper body mass was so much greater/stronger. For me, at no time did fury think he could beat usyk. Am a huge fury fan, it was so dissapointing.
Simon is such an idiot when it comes to boxing. Your boy Fury got schooled twice Simon, just admit that other than 1 pick in the last two years, all your boxing calls have been wrong. Probably the reason you haven’t “got involved in boxing” at all, because you haven’t a clue
This idea that Fury isn't the same fighter that beat Wilder, its just an attempt to diminish Usyks legacy. Fury was just as hard to beat as he would have been in the Wilder fights. He looked worse because Usyk is a genius and makes elite fighters look terrible.
One of fury's biggest problems was someone somewhere told him he could bang for a heavyweight he dosent hit hard what made him special was being that big and being able to move and box like he could
Turki thought USYK won by 4, not Tyson. There's literally a video on dazn instagram of him saying so right after the fight and a twitter post 😒 can they not at least do their research before doing these videos.
The contradictions, bias and backflipping on this program are amazing. You were suggesting Fury was an ATG in the past, Usyk comfortably beats him twice and isn’t, Dubois quit against Usyk now Usyk has to fight him again, you wanted Usyk to prove himself against Joshua for a THIRD time.. I can’t imagine these same standards and expectations would apply to any British fighter.
"Tyson was heading that way" in terms of being the greatest of all-time but Usyk is only a generational GREAT; how does that even make any sense, given they're in the same timeframe......
To Simon, Spencer, Duke and everyone watching this video, I highly recommend you watch the UA-cam video entitled, Tyson Fury Did Not Win a Round vs Oleksandr Usyk Fight Film Study. It truly is a revelation. All the so-called experts got it so wrong! I was wrong too as I gave four rounds including the fifth round to Fury.
Of course Usyk is an all time great. What on earth are these people on about? The only thing that is stopping them from giving him his dues is that he's not British/American.
What everyone is getting wrong about weight is that even if Fury was 20 pounds lighter, he would be 35-40 pounds heavier than Usyk (assuming that was actually a ceremonial weigh in). There is pretty much no upside to a man as huge as 262 eating themselves up to 281. Net negative. 262 is already PLENTY against a 222 opponent
So much respect for how Duke handled that Itauma conversation. Great advice and good for not exposing his perceived flaws and not taking that bait. Itauma, needs managing and development. He can get more seasoned in the USA and more experience which will serve him well.
Those wilder fights took so much out of both men,neither man has been the same since,I think fury understood that,that’s why he took bum fights after.props to usyk
I love Usyk and wanted him to win and he did. But to call him the best heavyweight ever is RIDICULOUS. Larry Holmes had 75 fights and only lost 6. Foreman had EIGHTY ONE heavyweight fights and only lost 5. I reckon if Usyk had ANOTHER SIXTY HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTS he would LOSE SOME!!
Don't forget Lennox Lewis lost to Oliver Mccall & Hasim Rahman who between then lost over twenty fights drew with Holyfield who come up from cruiserweight , Usyk is fighting what's here now he hasn't got a time machine . give him some credit ffs.
@@BB49. No way Lewis is going life and death with Chisroa who had about 13 losses at the time. Styles make fight. The HW game back then, the HWs could actually box unlike the AJs and Furys. The loss to McCall was the best thing to happen to Lewis, he changed trainers and never looked back. With the greatest respect to Usyk this HW era is a joke, but he is elite level, but at the same time he is beatable, but not by these tall athletes turned boxers, many whom have no heart or boxing IQ are not up to the task, which is why Uysk will never get the credit he deserves.
Uysk is one of the all time greats. Not just a modern great. His accomplishments at cruiserweight ( his much more natural size ) beating undefeated excellent title holders in there backyard. Cleaning up at heavyweight. No cherry picking. He is a problem in any Era. If you are willing to call the likes of Terrence Crawford ( I do ) one of the all time greats. Then you have to do the same for Uysk.
One of the worst podcasts yet. The lack of respect to Usyk lives on. Fury lost twice because Usyk is superior , nothing to do with the Wilder fights. Usyk is an all time great, imagine if he was English? Jordan would call him the greatest of all time, best of any generation. Frustrating listen this one.
The main difference this time was that last time we got ‘happy new year’ in May, and this time we got ‘merry Christmas’ at the correct time. I think this MUST PROVE that the round 9 in the first fight was what caused new year to come around so quickly….
Love the show Gents. Duke is always excellent, very knowledgeable and is pretty much always proved right. Look forward to more good shows and great fights in 2025.
Fury lost on points to a GOAT and 2 x Undisputed King. Anthony Joshua got dropped 5 times and sparked out cold by a "quitter" and then ducked the rematch 😂
@@joewhite22Fury landed more punches and won more rounds against Usyk compared to Anthony Joshua. Joshua got dropped 4 times by Ruiz and quit. Ruiz had gone the distance with several journeymen
Fury got beat by a 0-0 debutant who aj sparked out fury also went life and death with a inexperienced wallin who aj sparked clean out, you always seem to leave out quite important details
@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma Still doesn't change the fact Usyk knocked Fury down and didn't with AJ. I didn't see AJ being made to look like a newborn giraffe by him.
Duke McKenzie got it right AGAIN. Instead of forming baseless opinions almost dismissing the first fight, maybe Simon and Spencer should've listened to Duke
I agree Duke got it right. AJ bootlicker Johnny Nelson said in August 2024, "Fury will not fight Usyk again. He is done. He will retire"😂
Probably because unlike Spence & Jordan, Duke doesn't have his tongue upper mssrs Joshua & Fury's respective backsides.
@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma how are you coping after your guy got beat again ?😂😂😂😂
Duke has always been one of the best pundits in boxing, he was a great fighter and he knows boxing and doesn't have an alliance to anyone so he gives his honest opinion
Totally agree
Duke Mckenzie is a class act. Why can't the other two see the obvious that Usyk provided the world with a master class.
because hyping Fury pays more
Because Tyson landed an uppercut on Usyk like....2 times so he automatically won 😂
Usyk could beat Fury 10 more times and Simon would still find it in him to underrate Usyk.
Simon's poephol ...as we would say in SA...tries so so hard to be relevant 😂
@@Ronshydrohub yes! 😂 🇿🇦
"Put it on him next time, use your size" lol
They also underrate the Klitschko's era just because its not an anglo country. If you ask other people in Europe the opinions are the other way around, just look at stats, 13 years dominating the Heavyweight division continuously without pause, only comparable maybe to Joe Louis but Joe Lost fights along the way and was finished by 36 just like Ali, not like the Klitschko's who were on top until 40, and Wladimir still fit.
Fury Won the first six rounds I don’t know what people are watching the last six rounds. Maybe he won one or two rounds? It was split decision or a draw. There’s no way uskyno 10-8 rounds
More truth tellers like Duke are needed in the mainstream and fewer fanboys like Gareth and Simon.
Simon is an honest presenter. GAD is also a fan of Anthony Joshua. Johnny Nelson, Tony Bellew, Spencer Fearon etc are biased Anthony Joshua bootlickers and at the same time hate Fury😂
Duke seems to have a dislike for Fury though. And i think it dictates his opinion of him.
For instance Fury didnt do anything he said he would.
Everything before a fight is just talk and loads of fighters have won by doing things they never mentioned aswell.
True
@@paulos1878sorry, I'm not a Fury fan, but I thought if he came in and ragdoll Usyk, like he said 🤔, that had me worried. Stop being a fan boy. Duke is on the money.
@@NolanRaizenberg exactly there's no dislike he just says it how it is.
Duke McKenzie schooled these 2 bozos as per usual
A Duke and 2 dorks.
Yep
@@joewhite22should of called the episode that😂😂
@@joewhite22that’s a quality comment 😂fairplay 🫡
Need to let Duke speak more. He has excellent insights
Totally agree
Totally agree as well
Totally totally agree also!
Spencer is a nightmare for butting in.
Duke’s analysis makes sense the others clearly don’t understand the game. Let the man speak!!
Usyk is the only heavyweight with real boxing IQ and technical skill, which says a lot about how poor the rest are.
Duke is THE best pundit around. His commentary back in the day was superb. This man needs more airtime.
And he needs t get oliver to button it for a minute and let him speak
Agreed on the Duke comment . Love his takes 🙏🏾🥊
@@patrickmurphy1803Simon Jordan doesn’t let Oliver speak u mean ,
Deontay Wilder was so bad he made Fury look better than what he actually is.
Agreed, I always felt Deontay Wilder was an atrocious boxer but he had a devastating right cross. It was in Tyson Fury's interests to talk him up because it sold more tickets.
Good point. One of the things that Fury brought into the ring, that Wilder had not faced since perhaps his first half a dozen professional fights, was someone who was not scared of Wilder.
So Usyk achieved nothing special?
@@holystone3736 wasn't saying that. I think that Usyk is an all time great. I hope he retires. He has nothing left to prove.
@@dctbass how can Usyk be an all time great if what is supposed to make him great is beating fury if fury is no good?
Usyk is better than fury. Don’t know why people complicate it.
All the physical attributes are in fury’s favour. weight, height, reach, potentially power. But he lost twice. Reason: Usyk is a better boxer.
Us brits are patriotic to the point where it becomes insufferable delusion to other nations, we must make everyone laugh.
Think we need to put respect on Usyks name. The guy has battered everyone at crusierweight. Moved up became undisputed at heavyweight. And took out all our best fighters on the way.
Humbled a nation. Think once everyone rewatches the fights a couple of years on we will realise that it should have been two 116-112s rather than one split and one unanimous.
I challenge anyone to argue those facts
I'm Australian so I don't have a dog in this fight. That said, there's nothing wrong withsupporting a fellow countryman in a sporting contest. The issue is this.... are you an informed boxing fan, or a casual boxing fan? Take Dominic Ingle for example. He's a huge fan of Tyson Fury but even he predicted Usyk for this 2nd fight because "once somebody has your number, they usually don't give that away, and Usyk is too good to do that."
Yeah the same thing happened when he beat Joshua. Then the low blow with Dubois. It's just boring at this point.
These guys are lucky they're massive otherwise they'd have all been stopped.
I'm English and so bloody glad Usyk won. Anyone with half a brain, which sadly, former boxers don't have, knows who won the fight, knows who trains and conducts himself properly. Complete joke. The UK Butterbean lost for a reason. 😂
@@hurley31 totally agree with this. If Dubois, AJ and fury are all 6”3 and 220lbs they don’t last.
Dubois didn’t, AJ nearly finished in the first fight and Usyk ran out of time in the 9th round in the first first against Fury. The size of these blokes was the challenge for Usyk not their skill. And he proved size doesn’t really matter
I scored both fights 8-4 and the first fight had a 'knockdown' so I totally agree with you.... Usyk is just better! 🥊
Usyk HAS COMPLETED the full boxing game at 100% via World Gold, Olympic Gold, Muhammad Ali trophy, Undisputed Cruiserweight, Undisputed Heavyweight, Lineal, Ring Magazine, Undefeated, Pound for Pound #1, TBE, The Greatest. There’s just beauty in symmetry!
Did you cut and paste that? Saw someone else write exactly the same comment!
@ it’s my comment scattered everywhere. If anyone has copied my comment it’s plagiarism !
Imagine if Dubois beats parker and then usyk beats Dubois again
@@JW-vk1umthe way he's being mouthing I hope so !
Parker beats Dubois and then gets best by Usyk @@JW-vk1um
Turki never said fury won he said he thought usyk won by 4 rounds
Exactly 🤦🏾♀️
The guy in the black sweater should allow the guy wearing the red xmass jersey to speak. He keeps interrupting in an irritating manner
I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂
Totally agree. I think both Simon Jordan and GAD are aware of this as well
Black sweater feels red sweater is a few more episodes away from replacing him permanently
Black sweater only shuts up when he has his head up that pdf file GAD’s backside
One voice of sanity on that panel…. It’s obvious who it is.
Duke makenzie?????? 😂😂
It's wasn't that bad , they watch it again and agree Usyk won
They are from UK its allowed to a Fury fan
Even Simon was ok in this one
They will allways be bias to a UK fighter, I think that's OK
I'm bias too
Duke was spot on in his prediction. One of the best analysts out there.
I find it embarrassing that a man 6 inches taller and weighing the equivalent of a small person heavier than Usyk complains on a points loss
Embarrassing
Very much so, ridiculous
Can't not like Duke McKenzie, been there, seen it, done it and not afraid to speak his truth, love and luck champ 🏆
Or THE truth! Not just his truth. The actual truth! 😉
Yeah Duke is great
Turki said he thought Usyk won 8 - 4. I don't know where Simon got the idea from that Turki thought Fury won.
simon is all over the place lol
I don't know where Simon Jordan gets the idea from that he is a expert in boxing
Simon Jordan knows more about boxing than millions of casuals Joshua fanboys in the UK and Nigeria😅
Simon Jordan thinks he’s an expert on any subject he discusses.
@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma
Have you considered counselling? Because if you haven’t, you really should.
@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma
U may aswell get on your knees 😂😂😂
He doesnt even take boxercise classes
Usyk beat the boxing establishment for the sake of boxing integrity, the real boxing fans and boxing history. He should be the king of England at this point.
Usyk is precious. He must be protected and retire. His legacy as the GOAT is sealed.
Usyk is the Gypsy King now
Usyk is certainly the goat of this era and in the top 20 of all time.
You gotta be English to be The King of England at the very least 😂
They should get rid of spencer oliver and replace him with duke.. night and day in terms of intelligence and speaking sense
Get rid of Simon Jordan
Agreed. Spencer Oliver is never going to win any public speaking awards. That said, in this interview he did give loads of credit to Usyk.
They are British so they will be bias, dont think it's a big deal
Simon can piss me of , but he was good in this one
They do get mocked a lot in comments they ofc know that
They are friends with Fury - not a big deal for me
They even said it was 7- 5
Just have people like Duke more on
It baffles me that Simon and Spencer can't understand what a low blow Is. A low blow doesn't have to be being punched in the balls. Anything below the belly button is low. Usyk shorts were not high at all and Dubois certainly connected below the belly button. Other than the low blow controversy Usyk dominated Dubois anyway.
So true...these guys are just yappers anyway...everyone's an expert, even the boxers and they all disagree with each other...so there are NO experts only opinions...
they are idiots. all they have to do is look at the rules .
Totally right Harry
Well everyone seems to agree Duke knows what he's talking about and he has clearly said he didn't think it was a low blow...
Ah thank goodness someone talking sense. You are completely correct. This is something only casual fans assert. Why these commentators make the same dumb assertion is beyond me
Duke McKenzie is the only one worth listening to.
Yh he was until he started saying dubois Could beat usyk now 😂
@@Kayy1234-r2hhe’s not perfect 😂🤷🏾♀️We give him a pass
At what point is someone going to mention that Oscar De La Hoya said Usyk won by 2, yet Frank Warren says ODLH said Fury won by 3!!!
This was direct from Oscar STRAIGHT after the fight on UA-cam, not hearsay, unless it was AI don’t think AI could be that fast!
Lol I know during the fight Oscar said he had Usyk 3 rounds up near the 7th round
Either he was saying different things to different people or Frank just hears what he wants to hear.
exactly i heard that on one of the socials yet frank said it lol
Oscar said fury was up by 4 going into the 7th
Duke needs his own podcast, can listen to him all day. Proper analysis 👌
To clear up the weight issue, I can tell you why Tyson came in heavy, he’s actually had a problem with his feet, he couldn’t keep them out of the pantry
Please have Duke on more, such a level headed, unbiased analyst, could listen to him all day
"The best version of Fury beats the best version of Usyk"! How many times did we hear Jordan 'trott' that line out!! Amazingly I think he still believes it!
Johnny Nelson predicted that Tony Bellew would beat Usyk. He said," Bellew is technically better than Usyk"😂
LOL@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma
😂@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma
@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.GrandmaJohnny Nelson also said Fury would win second time round I’ve never known Nelson to get a big prediction right. I’d love to know what Haye thought before the fight.
Fury hasn't actually been in shape since he fought Klitschko 9 years ago. Look how he moved in that fight vs now it's totally different
Can you let duke talk please FFS
Honestly so frustrating
Turki Alalshikh thought Usyk won by 4 rounds.
What is this clown Jordan going on about?
Literally just spreading blatant misinformation, I noticed that too! Most fans won't know what Turki said! Jordan seems ot have an axe to grind, probably wants to be banned by riyadh seaosn so he can cry about it & create a big headline
27:30 Turki didn't say he thought Fury won the fight. He literally said hethought Usyk won by 4 rounds!! Simon Jordon spreading bs
As an English man it doesn't even pain me to say I wish Usyk was British/English he is class in Multiple ways
Anthony Joshua accused Usyk of racism in February 2023😂
Me too man ! 😂USYK comment . For guy at the top comment 🎉
@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandmano he didn’t
@@LadyChann Anthony Joshua falsely accused Usyk of racism during an interview with Radio Raheem on Seconds out
Duke is brilliant and so is his Christmas jumper 🎅🏻
Can we have him on again please 🙏
Duke comes across as an absolute gentleman, obviously knows his stuff, and should be on more shows. Unlike the other two.
Again Duke McKenzie prediction correct about Usyk please keep him on the panel Three weight World Champion knows his Boxing !!
What’s crazy to me is that a man Fury’s size with all that experience under his belt and bro isn’t capable of throwing a knockout power punch
Fury might move pretty fast for his size but his hand speed has always been laboured cause of his size,, his, arms are long as anything obviously weigh a lot, now he's older his hand speed is even slower, his punches or flurry of punches looked absolutely pathetic, no snap of power at all, I never bought into fury being this bigger puncher with kronk, hes never been able to punch even in sparring someone who sparred both fury and usyk said usyk kits harder and had more snap so all that extra weight meant nothing... Fury admitted he didn't punch hard when he was only a couple of fights in 15 years ago... That was never gonna change punchers are born
Same as aj
Duke McKenzie needs to be used more as a boxing pundit. He's very knowledgeable, has great insights and tells it like it is.
Also, unlike Spencer Oliver, he isn't a fan boy.
27:31 is just factually incorrect. Turki said Usyk won by 4 rounds.
Spencer is right about what sugar hill meant before the 12th, sugar said “there is no tomorrow” (pinched from Rocky 3 by the way) which is easily interpreted to… you need this bloody round
And he went out & did the same thing, Fury looked worse in this fight.
Idk why everyone is going on about he looked better, he lost more clearly than the first fight 😂 he had no moment of dominance, Usyk did his thing & wasn’t in trouble
Talksport please coach Oliver. Needs a lot of improvement. Keeps interrupting. Let others speak. Stop saying “ what I’m saying is “ - starting to find it grating.
No more Spencer please! He won’t let Duke finish his sentence even though the question is directed at Duke
WHAT A GENTLEMAN DUKE MaCENZIE IS, A VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE MAN. LOVED LISTENING TO HIM.
Simon Jordan is clueless. Still won’t give Usyk full credit and taking sly digs because he was wrong yet again. Saying Usyk is “beatable”, well anyone is technically, but he wasn’t close to being beat or a unanimous decision. He doesn’t understand what he’s watching. Simon can't deal with being wrong
Beatable yes.
Just not by Joshua, Fury, Wilder or anyone else currently in the heavyweight division.
They're all too slow or don't have the skillset to compete.
Or the cardio.
Frank talks a lot of crap. Oscar De La Hoya said after the fight he agreed with the judge's decision. Turki said he thought Usyk won by four rounds and Alex Krassyuk said they only thing they were disagreeing about was whether Usyk won by 4 or 6 rounds. So his line about "the whole of the front row" (thinking Fury won) is just a bare faced lie. The only people that had him for him were him, Arum and Hearn (i.e. people that stood to make more money out of a Fury win)
It's kinda mad, but Usyk has changed the way I live my life. He's the honourable, stoic man we should all aspire to be.
Well done Spencer for finally having an opinion and disagreeing. You’re spot on about the scoring
If someone can just edit out Simon and Spence, I only want to listen to the real expert, Duke 🙏🏾
McKenzie talks so much sense. Why are so many excuses made for Fury? Give credit to Usyk, far and away the best heavy on the planet
Simon Jordan still waiting for the “best version” of Fury to turn up 😂😂😂
What would we all have done if Jordan never rocked up to talksport a few years ago and cast his boxing wisdom on everyone!
Simon, they didnt both THINK they won the fight...the one thinks and the other one KNOWS...catch a wake up 😂😂😂😂😂
He didn't come in too big/heavy, his muscle mass wasn't there, it was fat. Without that muscle, his punches are not strong enough. He looked totally different in wilder 2, when he looked invincible. His whole upper body mass was so much greater/stronger. For me, at no time did fury think he could beat usyk. Am a huge fury fan, it was so dissapointing.
Spencer thought Joshua was beatin Usyk in thier first fight! Can't take him seriously after that 😂😂😂
Remember when he interviewed AJ after. Bro this and bro that. Absolute clown. Gareth a nugget Davies hasn't got a clue either 😂
27:35 why is he lying here? Turki didn't say that at all
Thoet the same turki said usyk won it by 4 rounds
Turki wanted fury to win but admitted usyk beat fury and agreed with the scorecards
Duke is honest.Spence should stop butting in with the fanboy stuff .Duke in the next and future
Simon is such an idiot when it comes to boxing. Your boy Fury got schooled twice Simon, just admit that other than 1 pick in the last two years, all your boxing calls have been wrong. Probably the reason you haven’t “got involved in boxing” at all, because you haven’t a clue
Love the way Duke speaks. Understated and methodical
This idea that Fury isn't the same fighter that beat Wilder, its just an attempt to diminish Usyks legacy. Fury was just as hard to beat as he would have been in the Wilder fights. He looked worse because Usyk is a genius and makes elite fighters look terrible.
One of fury's biggest problems was someone somewhere told him he could bang for a heavyweight he dosent hit hard what made him special was being that big and being able to move and box like he could
I skip Simon and Spencer and just listened to Duke! 😂
Thank you, Duke!
Usyk won by 6 rounds. There is no way in the world that Fury won round 9 or 10
I thought that it was 115-113 Usyk on fight night, but it was much clearer for Usyk on the rewatch. The biased commentary got me.
Spencer is 100% spot on. Sugar Hill said to Tyson, "There is no tomorrow. This is it right now." How much clearer can he be? Tyson knows the drill.
Dukes Brilliant
Turki thought USYK won by 4, not Tyson. There's literally a video on dazn instagram of him saying so right after the fight and a twitter post 😒 can they not at least do their research before doing these videos.
The contradictions, bias and backflipping on this program are amazing. You were suggesting Fury was an ATG in the past, Usyk comfortably beats him twice and isn’t, Dubois quit against Usyk now Usyk has to fight him again, you wanted Usyk to prove himself against Joshua for a THIRD time.. I can’t imagine these same standards and expectations would apply to any British fighter.
"Tyson was heading that way" in terms of being the greatest of all-time but Usyk is only a generational GREAT; how
does that even make any sense, given they're in the same timeframe......
Duke called it all along. And he has an absolute beut of a Christmas jumper too! Legend!
Definitely need to let duke speak more, so much knowledge and class and speaks so much sense
Spencer Oliver needs to shut his mouth when duke is being asked a question pure narcissist
Spencer has been talking for over a month about this fight and still interrupts Duke who said all along that Usyk will win again 😳
To Simon, Spencer, Duke and everyone watching this video, I highly recommend you watch the UA-cam video entitled, Tyson Fury Did Not Win a Round vs Oleksandr Usyk Fight Film Study. It truly is a revelation. All the so-called experts got it so wrong! I was wrong too as I gave four rounds including the fifth round to Fury.
Duke is a class act. Knows his stuff and schooled the plonkers on this panel.
Of course Usyk is an all time great. What on earth are these people on about? The only thing that is stopping them from giving him his dues is that he's not British/American.
Hes only beaten bums tho
What everyone is getting wrong about weight is that even if Fury was 20 pounds lighter, he would be 35-40 pounds heavier than Usyk (assuming that was actually a ceremonial weigh in).
There is pretty much no upside to a man as huge as 262 eating themselves up to 281. Net negative. 262 is already PLENTY against a 222 opponent
Usyk clearly won !
So much respect for how Duke handled that Itauma conversation. Great advice and good for not exposing his perceived flaws and not taking that bait. Itauma, needs managing and development. He can get more seasoned in the USA and more experience which will serve him well.
Spencer Oliver belongs on road works holding a Stop/Go sign
Great show fellas, really enjoy the longer formats
It's hilarious listening to Simon trying to make excuses for Fury, Usyk is just better. Ali was just better, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and so on.
We need to hear more from Duke. He speaks so much sense.
Those wilder fights took so much out of both men,neither man has been the same since,I think fury understood that,that’s why he took bum fights after.props to usyk
I love Usyk and wanted him to win and he did. But to call him the best heavyweight ever is RIDICULOUS.
Larry Holmes had 75 fights and only lost 6. Foreman had EIGHTY ONE heavyweight fights and only lost 5.
I reckon if Usyk had ANOTHER SIXTY HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTS he would LOSE SOME!!
Don't forget Lennox Lewis lost to Oliver Mccall & Hasim Rahman who between then lost over twenty fights drew with Holyfield who come up from cruiserweight , Usyk is fighting what's here now he hasn't got a time machine . give him some credit ffs.
Not only lost to them but was knocked spark out. There is no way Uysk would lose to McCall or Rahman
@@BB49. No way Lewis is going life and death with Chisroa who had about 13 losses at the time. Styles make fight. The HW game back then, the HWs could actually box unlike the AJs and Furys. The loss to McCall was the best thing to happen to Lewis, he changed trainers and never looked back. With the greatest respect to Usyk this HW era is a joke, but he is elite level, but at the same time he is beatable, but not by these tall athletes turned boxers, many whom have no heart or boxing IQ are not up to the task, which is why Uysk will never get the credit he deserves.
Uysk is one of the all time greats. Not just a modern great.
His accomplishments at cruiserweight ( his much more natural size ) beating undefeated excellent title holders in there backyard.
Cleaning up at heavyweight.
No cherry picking.
He is a problem in any Era.
If you are willing to call the likes of Terrence Crawford ( I do ) one of the all time greats.
Then you have to do the same for Uysk.
Usyk will school Dubois again. People still don't understand the level he's on 😂
Love how Fury said he wouldn’t make many changes cus of how close the first fight was but then put on 19lbs.
in a roundabout way spencer oliver has not got a clue
Duke McKenzie’s views are so well thought out. Please keep this guy on the channel.
*A.I. judge (punch landed accuracy) I agree with 9/3 USYK win*
One of the worst podcasts yet. The lack of respect to Usyk lives on. Fury lost twice because Usyk is superior , nothing to do with the Wilder fights.
Usyk is an all time great, imagine if he was English? Jordan would call him the greatest of all time, best of any generation. Frustrating listen this one.
The main difference this time was that last time we got ‘happy new year’ in May, and this time we got ‘merry Christmas’ at the correct time. I think this MUST PROVE that the round 9 in the first fight was what caused new year to come around so quickly….
Spencer Oliver is like Norman Wisdom...😂😂
😂😂😂
Give Duke Mckenzie his own show!
Spencer finally made a few agreeable points over the others. Usyk can live in any era and Sugar Hills instructions were correct
Love the show Gents. Duke is always excellent, very knowledgeable and is pretty much always proved right. Look forward to more good shows and great fights in 2025.
Hahah how do those two not know
What a low blow is? Someone read them the definition 😂😂😂
Great to see debating!!!
Fury lost on points to a GOAT and 2 x Undisputed King. Anthony Joshua got dropped 5 times and sparked out cold by a "quitter" and then ducked the rematch 😂
Fury also got knocked down by Usyk and was on the wobbliest legs we've seen from him. Joshua wasn't.
For heaven's sake TalkSport, can you please block this guy from commenting on your channel....
@@joewhite22Fury landed more punches and won more rounds against Usyk compared to Anthony Joshua. Joshua got dropped 4 times by Ruiz and quit. Ruiz had gone the distance with several journeymen
Fury got beat by a 0-0 debutant who aj sparked out fury also went life and death with a inexperienced wallin who aj sparked clean out, you always seem to leave out quite important details
@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma Still doesn't change the fact Usyk knocked Fury down and didn't with AJ. I didn't see AJ being made to look like a newborn giraffe by him.
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