Had the 2017 access cab with utility package. It was super convenient to be able to open those little back doors and get whatever tools and gear you needed. No doors seems like it’s going to be annoying.
That was my exact thought. When I heard the concept of it being entirely for storage I thought "that's cool." And when I found out there are no doors and that seriously kills the utility.
I 100% agree I had a 2017 SR5 access cab and sure it was small but perfect for utility the fact the back door doesnt open I think will not go well for toyota
My daily driver is a 1985 Xtracab. You are correct. The space is nice but getting stuff in and out is a hassle. (I know mine is smaller than this) The fold flat passenger seat on the ‘24 will help, but you will have to walk around the truck to do it.
The XtraCab is kind of a miss for me. I really like that they're offering the extra space and 2-doors, and rear seats are useless to me, but there's no easy access now because of the lack of clamshells like with the Access Cab. My first truck was an extended cab with the clamshell doors. I rarely put people in the back, but I regularly would swing the rear doors out to toss in my stuff. For my work and lifestyle, it was literally the perfect cab configuration. Also, I wish they'd give us bench seats as an option. I'm tired of car buyers influencing interior designs. Benches are best, particularly for trucks... Way more comfort and versatility with bench seating.
Also you can't get the hybrid drivetrain in the Xtra cab, the better suspension, or the larger screen. Those are all reserved for the passenger car trim with the 2 foot long bed.
For the garage sales brother. For the 1 guy tgat needs a camper im the bed so save in hotel bills in the long run. Their base model gets close but i think toyota can do better
What a major design FAIL! That looked like such a pain in the ass reaching over the seat to access the storage in the rear. Hopefully they bring back the suicide doors because that is my favorite model. I was seriously considering upgrading from my gen 2 to the new 2024 access cab but I don't think I could live with that. I use the back for nicer gear that I don't want in the bed like tools, my bow/archery gear, hunting optics, nicer camping gear, or anything I want protected in the cab. Lifting a tool box, cooler, or gear totes over that seat would drive me crazy.
they should call it the "Inaccess Cab". thats ridiculous, look at the guy reaching on his tippy toes to access that storage area. I own a 2022 Access cab utility package with no rear seats and frequently open the rear doors to stow gear behind the seats. This looks very inconvenient. And not being able to pass crash standards sounds like a major cop out. How come ford can still do it?
@@NorthPaddle that was my thought too after reading Tim’s response. Unless it’s going away in 2024, but without the suicide doors, it’s going to be a pain to get stuff in and out.
The Xtracab is not well designed IMO especially for a Toyota. You can clearly see in the video how hard it is to get things in and out of the storage area with no clamshell door. I understand the crashability issues. Here's an idea though; how about a regular cab with 3 piece bench seat and a 7 foot box!!! Now that would be functional work truck ...
@@JLeeChron I'm holding off as well. If the new Canyon/Colorado came in extended cab I would have purchased one already. Taco 2 door extra cab TRD off road 4x4 6spd would be my choice.
Its a downer that there is no doors that open on the extended cab version. Uhg. I don't know where to go with this. I might have to wait for the ranger to come out with the new supercab I guess. I hope the actual version will have doors on the Tacoma. This truck looks awesome but if that area is to put your things then I want a door to access my stuff rather than having that headache of lifting it over the seats. Yuck. Come on Toyota.
Have the 2012 4 banger prerunner, the back seats are pretty much useless but I do daily the truck. This new 2024 prerunner is too good and really perfect for me. Daily driver, prerunner, two seater and turbocharged! I definitely want to get my hands on one!
This is exactly what I need in a truck. A long bed . I don’t care about the extra big back seat. I learn my lesson . My wife and kids never sit in it and they only in the SUV when we going anywhere.
For me, the PreRunner ExtraCab will be the way to go. I'd prefer side access doors, but it's not a deal-breaker, and the same for the lack of a manual trans for this model (an 8-speed auto actually sounds nice, compared to my current '01 4Runner's 4-speed).
I wondef what the beds ckmfortable weighr rating is. Is it strong enough for a bed style camper and a trailer with a dirtbike on it, 4 wheeler or something like that idk. I cant afford it tho
I find it absolutely hilarious that a third of the comments on these truck videos mention wanting a manual transmission but in reality the take rate of a manual is less than 2%. They must all be in the comment section 😂
like it was said this is a a pre production model "the only one that exists". Hopefully they will change the rear doors. The big guy had a heck of a time reaching for that seat handle, and as for the "functional area", a cooler a toolbox good luck getting that past that seat. Removing the rear seats was a great idea ,but its far from perfect. Ask anyone with a extended cab small pickup the one thing people want is a flat area to put day to day items ie: groceries, trip to the hardware store, ect. and keep it from sliding all over the place on plastic with the first turn. (But I'm sure toyota will offer a rubber mat to fix that problem they created $$$$). Great idea for a pickup, different from what we have been given a choice as of late. with any hope the reviewers and public will let Toyota know what they like and what they don't . Just give us the rear doors for the love of God. Its like were going back to the 1990's .
I doubt they go back and re-engineer it with doors in the next 4 months, but I totally agree with you. I have an Access Cab on order now and I'm kind of glad I didn't wait for this. I like it, and I don't like it. It's something they can improve on in the next few years on refreshes, but only if this style is popular enough that they don't kill off the XtraCab entirely. I think it's likely it'll end up being used for camping and for work truck use. As a daily driver I'd love it, but getting groceries and stuff in and out of that back storage looks like a BITCH
@@demoncleaner80 Yeah, I am very glad I bought my ‘23 Access Cab when I did. Those doors are essential. I had to have mine in the body shop for a week, and idiot co-worker backed into it in the back lot and damaged the bed, so I’ve been driving a TRD Off-road Double Cab, really made me appreciate my Access Cab that much more.
@@martin4749 I actually ended up getting a 2023 TRD Sport Double Cab -- that SR5 Access Cab kept getting delayed, and after 6 weeks I was tired of waiting. There's pros and cons to both for sure. But I've been pretty happy with this one. My only complaint is every now and then I'm like "What the F is this transmission doing?!" But I'm gonna deal with it because I only have like 5k left until it's paid off! :D
@@Pickuptrucktalk ua-cam.com/video/-AAtEwU8dho/v-deo.html mazda came out with this just last year i also remember you saying chevy could not sell regular cabs any more yet 3 years latter they sell regular cabs
That swing down panel 4:40 could have been a cool rear bench seat for occasional passengers. Don’t like the deletion of the suicide doors. The old jumps seats didn’t take up a lot of room either. Should have left them in IMO.
I can’t imagine any brand using jump seats. Those things were sketchy as hell back in the day and safety regulations are much tougher than they were back then.
@@Pickuptrucktalk jump seats are what are in the Access Cab Tacoma right now. They aren’t meant to be comfortable. They are there for special occasions and emergencies.
I've never liked Toyota for whatever reason but at least Toyota understands that long beds and manual transmissions are what makes a truck A TRUCK! At least for many people like tradesmen, overlanders and delivery companies.
If it had manual automatic and hybrid versions you would get quite a variety. I worry they say the electric motor infront if the trans if its going to be hard on the trans but i also think a camper setup would be nice so the immense torque of the hybrid seems useful.
Thanks for the review, but not many people are looking for a 2WD Tocaoma. Maybe parts delivery or food. The Taco is ment for off reading and 2WD might be good for desert running, but how many of us have the opportunity. TRD Pro in the next vid please.
Wow - Toyota is offering a 2 door, 2 wheel drive work truck that hopefully will sell well in the sunbelt states. It's a good looking truck. The rear locker is nice touch Bring your own recovery boards.
Yep. I live in Alaska where 2wd is about as useful as a left handed monkey wrench. I’m hoping for a 4wd version in SR5. (Hopefully with the TRD off road package)
I'm not sure I understand prioritizing rear locker over 4wd? I mean there are certainly use cases where only 2wd is needed but if a requirement is off-road it seems 4wd comes first, then rear locker, then front locker.
This was almost the perfect 2 wheel drive mid size truck. I love everything about it including the really well thought out rear compartment behind the seats. But doing away with the access doors really turns it into a real pain to use, especially with the increased ride height of the PreRunner. Because in order to get back there you are going to have to rest your chest on the hard plastic of the folded seat to be able to reach or provide the leverage needed to place or retrieve objects back there. Toyota say's they did it for safety? I don't think the average Tacoma buyer cares that much about the little bit of added safety that provides compared to the inconvenience price we have to pay for the loss of access. Welding the tailgate shut too would add greatly to the rigidity and "safety" of the truck. But who would want that. What a shame.
I wanted a single cab with no back doors at all so in a way its darn close man so it is nice to have a spot for your jacks and tools im the back so to me it doesnt need to be an easy place to get into.
Without the suicide doors, this is a good place for hard mounting fridge units, compressors, aux batteries, etc. Locked, dry, weight centralized, easy(ish) to access for maintenance. The doors would be nice, but some proper mounting plates and I could probably fill the back.
wow! I really like all the storage and how the front passenger seat works. I wonder if they can add some of this storage into some of the other trims. love the storage in the rear wall. Them air dams have to go.
You're talking about a bench seat, which I wish they'd offer as well. Bench seats are more versatile and way more comfortable, perfect for manspreading on long drives.
@@ALMX5DP The front seat is as wide as the 4 door's rear seat, which is 3 wide. There shouldn't be an issue with making the front 3 wide. Also, mid-size trucks are larger than the first generation compact trucks in America. Those first compact trucks had 3 wide bench seats. For example: the Toyota Stout was 3 wide seating.
The storage area looks nice but it also looks like a total pain in the butt to get into. He's constantly fighting with and reaching over the passenger chair. If one were to bungie something onto the back of the chair, it would be even more difficult to access the back interior of the truck. It's pointless without the suicide doors. Speaking as an FJ owner, I'll take suicide doors for access any day over this setup.
I think they failed with the xtracab prerunner. It should have been an access cab with the storage options as reaching over the seat all the time to reach something in the back is a PITA especially a child seat as I have an extended cab nissan hardbody. Hell there is even a video of the chief engineer having trouble to reach something in the back. Also the rear suspension was a mistake with the leaf springs being under the axel as that limits the lift options and will probably only be used to lower the truck like what other people did with the Nissan hardbody RWD. The prerunner with be terrible for off roading. They can say that they moved to xtracab for crash tests, but I bet it is to save cost and the MSRP will still be more expensive than previous years for the prerunner. Also they should have left the push start as an option. If I ever do get a 4th gen I will probably get a crew cab and delete the back seats to get what I wanted out of the prerunner.
Nice to see a truck that's more work oriented and not a soccer mom urban grocery getter. Anyone willing to venture a guess on the price? I say $45,000 for a 4x4 model for starters.
@@NorthPaddle Those dealers will lose allocation. The economy is going into the toilet so you will be able to get these a little under MSRP, maybe even a little over dealer cost.
If you need a higher payload/towing capacity 2wd is the way to go. 2wd with a rear locker fits the bill for desert trails out here in the Southwest, which is what it’s meant for.
How did the engineers present that access door delete idea with a straight face. Maybe if the front seat folded and flipped up to give more room to the back but just looking at the guy struggling to get to the back was enough for me. They could have met half way and delete one side and leave one access door making it a 3 door design. Now that ford and gmc/chevy killed the supercab off, and this design is blundered, it makes the nissan frontier a pretty good option.
It’s probably cheaper to manufacture. Also I had a friend with a 2001 tundra access cab. When I closed the door it just didn’t feel right. It felt “mushy” is the best way I can explain it.
it seems more and more they are doing away with extended cab...being in a wheelchair, its one of the few vehicles i can use to easily put my chair behind me....hope the trend does not continue
I wouldn't touch an extra cab, but I guess it's perfectly fine as a fleet truck as you can at least slide your seat back. Might make a little better sense being a hybrid also.
Toyota should offer a rear seat delete with the option to have these storage lockers instead on all Tacoma models.Most people never use those back seats anyway, just wasted space.
Tim, Jill - Tacoma v. Canyon v. Ranger? Give us a vehicle comparison now that you've had a chance to touch all three. Overall design? Build quality? Interior space, comfort, and functionality? Capabilities?
This 2-door is the ultimate selfish Bro vehicle. No kids maybe a GF on occasion but plenty of gear. Looks great though. The 4-door and overall the re-design looks ok-ish except for the lower air-dam which looks 100% like an afterthought for better fuel economy numbers. Final prices and availability are key. Above a certain price might as well get a Tundra unless you just want a smaller toy vehicle.
I think the airdam was intentionally an afterthought. Appeases the EPA but also is kind to consumers who can easily remove and have the same look as TRD models.
Bruh I can’t believe they got rid of the doors. I have a first gen extra cab and drive a 3rd gen for work. The back door is a game changer
Toyota seem a bit internslly conflicted on the back situation
Yep, that's a back breaker. No sale for me.
Had the 2017 access cab with utility package. It was super convenient to be able to open those little back doors and get whatever tools and gear you needed. No doors seems like it’s going to be annoying.
Yeah, cant wait for some real world reviews. Looks cool without the doors but the little doors were indeed very convenient.
That was my exact thought. When I heard the concept of it being entirely for storage I thought "that's cool." And when I found out there are no doors and that seriously kills the utility.
I 100% agree I had a 2017 SR5 access cab and sure it was small but perfect for utility the fact the back door doesnt open I think will not go well for toyota
My daily driver is a 1985 Xtracab. You are correct. The space is nice but getting stuff in and out is a hassle. (I know mine is smaller than this)
The fold flat passenger seat on the ‘24 will help, but you will have to walk around the truck to do it.
The fact that those doors don’t open will be bad for sales. No one’s gonna buy that.
No doors no deal
Exactly
No suicide door is a miss.
I wish it came with a manual and rear doors opened. I'd put a deposit down on it right now
He said you can out a cooler in the back. Sheeesh must be hard to get in and out
The XtraCab is kind of a miss for me. I really like that they're offering the extra space and 2-doors, and rear seats are useless to me, but there's no easy access now because of the lack of clamshells like with the Access Cab. My first truck was an extended cab with the clamshell doors. I rarely put people in the back, but I regularly would swing the rear doors out to toss in my stuff. For my work and lifestyle, it was literally the perfect cab configuration.
Also, I wish they'd give us bench seats as an option. I'm tired of car buyers influencing interior designs. Benches are best, particularly for trucks... Way more comfort and versatility with bench seating.
Also you can't get the hybrid drivetrain in the Xtra cab, the better suspension, or the larger screen. Those are all reserved for the passenger car trim with the 2 foot long bed.
@@cavedog1279 You can get a 6 foot bed on the Trailhunter.....
Bench seat with column shift.
@@TonkaFire2019 got this in my 23 Titan its the only one that offers it I believe
I do like a good bench but that makes changing your backrest harder. But its also easier to reappolster a bench set
I’ve been wanting a reg cab Tacoma to commute to work I’ll take this
Same!
Same. And I (like most people, tbh) do not need 4wd. I'd rather have the extra bed length than 2 more doors (full size or otherwise).
For the garage sales brother. For the 1 guy tgat needs a camper im the bed so save in hotel bills in the long run. Their base model gets close but i think toyota can do better
No opening rear doors? What genius decided that? You guys dropped the ball on this one. 3rd gens just went up in price 😂
Hello nissan frontier.
What a major design FAIL! That looked like such a pain in the ass reaching over the seat to access the storage in the rear. Hopefully they bring back the suicide doors because that is my favorite model. I was seriously considering upgrading from my gen 2 to the new 2024 access cab but I don't think I could live with that.
I use the back for nicer gear that I don't want in the bed like tools, my bow/archery gear, hunting optics, nicer camping gear, or anything I want protected in the cab. Lifting a tool box, cooler, or gear totes over that seat would drive me crazy.
Suicide doors needed!! Way too difficult to get back there
Sucks you can’t get the 6 spd in this truck, looks great tho
Agreed
they should call it the "Inaccess Cab". thats ridiculous, look at the guy reaching on his tippy toes to access that storage area. I own a 2022 Access cab utility package with no rear seats and frequently open the rear doors to stow gear behind the seats. This looks very inconvenient. And not being able to pass crash standards sounds like a major cop out. How come ford can still do it?
Ford doesn’t do it on the midsize.
And Nissan with the Frontier.
Thanks to the government for killing the rear entry doors. That really sucks the wind out of that model in my opinion.
How is it the Nissan King Cab still has them? Sounds like a Toyota excuse
@@NorthPaddle that was my thought too after reading Tim’s response. Unless it’s going away in 2024, but without the suicide doors, it’s going to be a pain to get stuff in and out.
This would be my new truck if it had 4WD and access doors 😔
should have kept opening doors
The Xtracab is not well designed IMO especially for a Toyota. You can clearly see in the video how hard it is to get things in and out of the storage area with no clamshell door. I understand the crashability issues. Here's an idea though; how about a regular cab with 3 piece bench seat and a 7 foot box!!! Now that would be functional work truck ...
Sold! If it comes in 4x4 Xtra cab.
And in manual. Please make it happen Toyota!
@@doubledown8229
Thats what i would go for… was holding off buying 23 to see if its coming available
@@JLeeChron I'm holding off as well. If the new Canyon/Colorado came in extended cab I would have purchased one already. Taco 2 door extra cab TRD off road 4x4 6spd would be my choice.
Its a downer that there is no doors that open on the extended cab version. Uhg. I don't know where to go with this. I might have to wait for the ranger to come out with the new supercab I guess. I hope the actual version will have doors on the Tacoma. This truck looks awesome but if that area is to put your things then I want a door to access my stuff rather than having that headache of lifting it over the seats. Yuck. Come on Toyota.
Nissan still has the Frontier King Cab with access doors
Go with a 23 before they discontinue them.
we want the suicide door back to get in the extra cab access. its easy access! wtf!
Crash and safety test regulations say nope.
@@Pickuptrucktalk last year 23 model taco have it, why not! Jeep wrangler you can take off doors and roof!
@@RobustArid379 regulations keep getting harder. Toyota is a conservative company as well. Just what it is.
I was thinking good lock and I would leave AR -15. Nice to lock shot gun up after duck hunting but not quite home yet.
Crash rating
Ok Toyota push the back of the cab forward and fill in the space with bed length to make a proper regular cab long bed.
Can't. Single cab light duty trucks are not CARB compliant.
Physically cant do that anymore.
Have the 2012 4 banger prerunner, the back seats are pretty much useless but I do daily the truck. This new 2024 prerunner is too good and really perfect for me. Daily driver, prerunner, two seater and turbocharged! I definitely want to get my hands on one!
Makes me appreciate 2nd gen access cab
This is exactly what I need in a truck. A long bed . I don’t care about the extra big back seat. I learn my lesson . My wife and kids never sit in it and they only in the SUV when we going anywhere.
For me, the PreRunner ExtraCab will be the way to go. I'd prefer side access doors, but it's not a deal-breaker, and the same for the lack of a manual trans for this model (an 8-speed auto actually sounds nice, compared to my current '01 4Runner's 4-speed).
I wondef what the beds ckmfortable weighr rating is. Is it strong enough for a bed style camper and a trailer with a dirtbike on it, 4 wheeler or something like that idk. I cant afford it tho
I find it absolutely hilarious that a third of the comments on these truck videos mention wanting a manual transmission but in reality the take rate of a manual is less than 2%. They must all be in the comment section 😂
Everybody wants a manual until they walk into the dealership
like it was said this is a a pre production model "the only one that exists". Hopefully they will change the rear doors. The big guy had a heck of a time reaching for that seat handle, and as for the "functional area", a cooler a toolbox good luck getting that past that seat. Removing the rear seats was a great idea ,but its far from perfect. Ask anyone with a extended cab small pickup the one thing people want is a flat area to put day to day items ie: groceries, trip to the hardware store, ect. and keep it from sliding all over the place on plastic with the first turn. (But I'm sure toyota will offer a rubber mat to fix that problem they created $$$$). Great idea for a pickup, different from what we have been given a choice as of late. with any hope the reviewers and public will let Toyota know what they like and what they don't . Just give us the rear doors for the love of God. Its like were going back to the 1990's .
I doubt they go back and re-engineer it with doors in the next 4 months, but I totally agree with you. I have an Access Cab on order now and I'm kind of glad I didn't wait for this. I like it, and I don't like it.
It's something they can improve on in the next few years on refreshes, but only if this style is popular enough that they don't kill off the XtraCab entirely.
I think it's likely it'll end up being used for camping and for work truck use.
As a daily driver I'd love it, but getting groceries and stuff in and out of that back storage looks like a BITCH
@@demoncleaner80 Yeah, I am very glad I bought my ‘23 Access Cab when I did. Those doors are essential. I had to have mine in the body shop for a week, and idiot co-worker backed into it in the back lot and damaged the bed, so I’ve been driving a TRD Off-road Double Cab, really made me appreciate my Access Cab that much more.
@@demoncleaner80 They can't sell what they don't build. There are three built. This one, a red SR5, and a white SR. lol
@@martin4749 I actually ended up getting a 2023 TRD Sport Double Cab -- that SR5 Access Cab kept getting delayed, and after 6 weeks I was tired of waiting. There's pros and cons to both for sure. But I've been pretty happy with this one. My only complaint is every now and then I'm like "What the F is this transmission doing?!" But I'm gonna deal with it because I only have like 5k left until it's paid off! :D
No rear opening doors on the extra cab? Is it the 80s again?
Crash and safety rules said nope on suicide doors.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I don’t believe it when he said that.
@@Pickuptrucktalk doesn't ford f 150 have suicide doors, this is cost cutting.
@@jeffforbes70 f-150 is apples and oranges comparison. The larger footprint changed everything from safety and crash testing.
@@Pickuptrucktalk ua-cam.com/video/-AAtEwU8dho/v-deo.html
mazda came out with this just last year
i also remember you saying chevy could not sell regular cabs any more yet 3 years latter they sell regular cabs
That swing down panel 4:40 could have been a cool rear bench seat for occasional passengers. Don’t like the deletion of the suicide doors. The old jumps seats didn’t take up a lot of room either. Should have left them in IMO.
I can’t imagine any brand using jump seats. Those things were sketchy as hell back in the day and safety regulations are much tougher than they were back then.
@@Pickuptrucktalk jump seats are what are in the Access Cab Tacoma right now. They aren’t meant to be comfortable. They are there for special occasions and emergencies.
@@callofdutyguy9 Ah, I was thinking the 1990s Ranger. So, Toyota killed those seats and went with storage instead. That’s their decision.
I've never liked Toyota for whatever reason but at least Toyota understands that long beds and manual transmissions are what makes a truck A TRUCK! At least for many people like tradesmen, overlanders and delivery companies.
I suppose but there's a reason the other OEMs don't have them. They don't sell very many so most people don't think that's what makes a truck.
I would love to see a single cab PreRunner short bed configuration.
If it had manual automatic and hybrid versions you would get quite a variety. I worry they say the electric motor infront if the trans if its going to be hard on the trans but i also think a camper setup would be nice so the immense torque of the hybrid seems useful.
I love it man, wish Nissan would do the same. Jump seats are kind of pointless, let that space be for work/storage.
No jump seats is a dealbreaker.
Wow, almost wish I had a genuine excuse to get rid of my 2015 Prerunner and get the the 24 one. Thing looks sweet
Thanks for the review, but not many people are looking for a 2WD Tocaoma. Maybe parts delivery or food. The Taco is ment for off reading and 2WD might be good for desert running, but how many of us have the opportunity. TRD Pro in the next vid please.
I agree if it was a 4wd it would have been a home run for the real toyota people
Screwed up the utility package AND have to pay a higher price tag. Great job
Wow - Toyota is offering a 2 door, 2 wheel drive work truck that hopefully will sell well in the sunbelt states. It's a good looking truck. The rear locker is nice touch Bring your own recovery boards.
Yep. I live in Alaska where 2wd is about as useful as a left handed monkey wrench.
I’m hoping for a 4wd version in SR5. (Hopefully with the TRD off road package)
GIVE ME THE DOORS!
They should've built this one with 4wd and a manual transmission
They did with 4wd. Not a PreRunner. That’s never been the point of this truck.
@Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk 4wd with this cab configuration , a manual transmission and a rear locker? Just like the 1st gen
I'm not sure I understand prioritizing rear locker over 4wd? I mean there are certainly use cases where only 2wd is needed but if a requirement is off-road it seems 4wd comes first, then rear locker, then front locker.
PreRunner is about speed and the 4x4 adds more weight.
Prerunner has always been rwd. If you want 4wd buy a TRD off-road.
Are they even going to be offering a TRD Off Road in 2024?
I only saw the Limited, TRD Pro, Trail Hunter, and the base model.
@@garrettyamada9821 they have TRD off-road and TRD sport. Tons of options.
@@Pickuptrucktalk, thanks for the info.
Wonder if there is room behind the panel to hang an AR-15? 😁
Only wish is that the rear window rolls fully down like the 4dr tundra
This was almost the perfect 2 wheel drive mid size truck. I love everything about it including the really well thought out rear compartment behind the seats. But doing away with the access doors really turns it into a real pain to use, especially with the increased ride height of the PreRunner. Because in order to get back there you are going to have to rest your chest on the hard plastic of the folded seat to be able to reach or provide the leverage needed to place or retrieve objects back there. Toyota say's they did it for safety? I don't think the average Tacoma buyer cares that much about the little bit of added safety that provides compared to the inconvenience price we have to pay for the loss of access. Welding the tailgate shut too would add greatly to the rigidity and "safety" of the truck. But who would want that. What a shame.
I wanted a single cab with no back doors at all so in a way its darn close man so it is nice to have a spot for your jacks and tools im the back so to me it doesnt need to be an easy place to get into.
@@censored4christ162 Perfect! I'm glad it works for somebody. 👍
Without the suicide doors, this is a good place for hard mounting fridge units, compressors, aux batteries, etc. Locked, dry, weight centralized, easy(ish) to access for maintenance. The doors would be nice, but some proper mounting plates and I could probably fill the back.
The prerunner would be cool to build a 4x4 with a solid axle in front. Nate I hope you do this !
Love the colour n the wheels
Tim, this thing looks great! It makes me excited for the SR5 4WD extracab.
Lol seriously you're gonna get one...with an extra cab?
Why do the NEW Tundra and Tacoma both have the exhaust exit on the driver (left side)?? Isn't that weird??
wow! I really like all the storage and how the front passenger seat works. I wonder if they can add some of this storage into some of the other trims. love the storage in the rear wall. Them air dams have to go.
So I’ll have to fold down my seats to get gear out :(
Get the four door then
@@Hernsama already have one lol. These trucks are too damn small for my needs.
@@TonkaFire2019 agreed
This truck really should have 3 wide seating to fit a child or a dog.
I really don’t think a modern midsize is big enough, at least in terms of occupant safety for that.
only if it has a column shifter, buddy
You're talking about a bench seat, which I wish they'd offer as well. Bench seats are more versatile and way more comfortable, perfect for manspreading on long drives.
@@ALMX5DP The front seat is as wide as the 4 door's rear seat, which is 3 wide. There shouldn't be an issue with making the front 3 wide.
Also, mid-size trucks are larger than the first generation compact trucks in America. Those first compact trucks had 3 wide bench seats. For example: the Toyota Stout was 3 wide seating.
Get an SUV if seating is your priority. I want a longer bed.
The “ engineer” couldn’t even reach the rear compartment without that rear door. I’m good I’ll hold onto my 19
I'd take a extracab with 4wd and be good in that color with arb bumpers on it front and rear
The storage area looks nice but it also looks like a total pain in the butt to get into. He's constantly fighting with and reaching over the passenger chair. If one were to bungie something onto the back of the chair, it would be even more difficult to access the back interior of the truck. It's pointless without the suicide doors. Speaking as an FJ owner, I'll take suicide doors for access any day over this setup.
Yep! Just sold my 2007 FJ after 15 years :( Now that was a fun car!! Love my 2021 Acesss Cab Tacoma.
I can remember when the prerunner first came out many moons ago (1998,25 yrs ago), I was interested in it back than.
I like how you can see the TFL team in the back at the beginning of the video
I think they failed with the xtracab prerunner. It should have been an access cab with the storage options as reaching over the seat all the time to reach something in the back is a PITA especially a child seat as I have an extended cab nissan hardbody. Hell there is even a video of the chief engineer having trouble to reach something in the back. Also the rear suspension was a mistake with the leaf springs being under the axel as that limits the lift options and will probably only be used to lower the truck like what other people did with the Nissan hardbody RWD. The prerunner with be terrible for off roading. They can say that they moved to xtracab for crash tests, but I bet it is to save cost and the MSRP will still be more expensive than previous years for the prerunner. Also they should have left the push start as an option. If I ever do get a 4th gen I will probably get a crew cab and delete the back seats to get what I wanted out of the prerunner.
@2:09 , that first spot you grab above the exhaust is for the jack port. Not really a hook.
Nice to see a truck that's more work oriented and not a soccer mom urban grocery getter. Anyone willing to venture a guess on the price? I say $45,000 for a 4x4 model for starters.
PreRunner - $29.999
SR5 - $34,999
TRD Sport/Pro/Off-Road - $40,000 - $50,000
Trailhunter - $60,000
My dealer will tack on 10k to whatever MSRP is. 🤬
@@NorthPaddle Those dealers will lose allocation. The economy is going into the toilet so you will be able to get these a little under MSRP, maybe even a little over dealer cost.
@@doubledown8229 Pre-Runner will be more expensive than SR5. The Pro, with the fancy seats and all that? $60K
I'll admit it
I'm not a big Toyota FAN
They might have something here, I'd watch to see in the next 2-3 years, see how the public likes it?
I guess taco engineers still can’t figure out to put a driver grab handle in it😢
Love the 2 door! But I would never buy a 2wd anything.
Exactly.
Its a truck.
Agreed
Biggest turn off in any vehicle
If you need a higher payload/towing capacity 2wd is the way to go. 2wd with a rear locker fits the bill for desert trails out here in the Southwest, which is what it’s meant for.
@@vr4787 Exactly. My ‘23 SR is my daily driver and does 8 bales of hay every two weeks. I needed that extra capacity.
I don't like that this truck's rear doors don't open.
You had your one shot with the engineer right there and didn't say a word about the lack of rear doors?
I did ask him. He said it was a crash safety test concern. Why do you assume I didn’t?
Why not just add the doors like Nissan Frontier? I feel like this is going to be a huge inconvenience for real world users.
Thank you for reviewing the 6’ bed/2 dr model…
When one watches coverage of new vehicles enough to see Nathan and Andre of TFL in the background, lol.
We were just joking about this with the other channels there.
I found them too. At the 5:30 mark off to the left.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Well Tim, you are also visible in their video. I'd tell Andre you need a Cameo billing in the credits....
Perfect, don’t be 35k…..
Yeah, not interested in Xtra Cab if no rear suicide doors.
We need this in 4x4
You get it just not PreRunner since that’s obviously not the point of this truck.
I would like this as 4x4, mainly to get at more reasonable price.
@@Pickuptrucktalk
Currently and as long as Tacomas have been available… always a 2 door w/ 4x4 has been available.
How did the engineers present that access door delete idea with a straight face. Maybe if the front seat folded and flipped up to give more room to the back but just looking at the guy struggling to get to the back was enough for me. They could have met half way and delete one side and leave one access door making it a 3 door design. Now that ford and gmc/chevy killed the supercab off, and this design is blundered, it makes the nissan frontier a pretty good option.
Are all extracabs prerunner? Can you get the 2 door in 4wd?
Yes SR and SR5 come in XtraCab with 4wd.
Can we get that in 4-wheel drive?
All great except for the lack of opening doors to the rear cargo area. A deal breaker for many I imagine.
I am ordering for sure great video
No open de back door?😮😮😮
Can a 4x8 sheet fit between fender wells ? Does it have Brake Controller like rest of the trims?
No awd?
Toyota, what's wrong with you ?
Cargo bed specs?
1 year after this they will par it down toa couple configurations .The 600 orders for the oddball setups will tell them all they need to know
They probably stopped the access cab in favor of rigidity. Crew cab will be the most popular
And sales. Access cabs just don't sell like crew cabs.
It’s probably cheaper to manufacture. Also I had a friend with a 2001 tundra access cab. When I closed the door it just didn’t feel right. It felt “mushy” is the best way I can explain it.
@@Pickuptrucktalk so what if they don’t sell the same? They still sell all the ones they make. I see Access Cabs everywhere.
@@dillonh321 Toyota has time and money to think of something better than just deleting the door.
Do they offer any version in a 4x4 xtracab in a manual?
Not in a manual. 4x4 though.
it seems more and more they are doing away with extended cab...being in a wheelchair, its one of the few vehicles i can use to easily put my chair behind me....hope the trend does not continue
Would be nice if the passenger seat could fold up out of the way for easier access.
Like the ridgeline which I thought was really great even for unibody its 1 thing I hated about colorado
@@davefornit6235 Ridgeline’s front seat can fold up more than what this Tacoma shows?
Looks like you can fit a 4x8?
Correct.
I wouldn't touch an extra cab, but I guess it's perfectly fine as a fleet truck as you can at least slide your seat back. Might make a little better sense being a hybrid also.
can u get the extra cab in four wheel drive?
PLEASE TOYOTA,, DON'T GO WOKE DON'T DO IT...
What do you mean? Like Ford?
@@doubledown8229 Exactly
What is woke about this
@@joepierson3859 like FORD
Toyota should offer a rear seat delete with the option to have these storage lockers instead on all Tacoma models.Most people never use those back seats anyway, just wasted space.
Goose Gear is out there for anyone who wants to do that. It just takes money.
I love the fact that the front passenger seat folds flat forward. This should be in all trucks.
All 2 and 3 gen access cabs had it.
Waiting for stout
Huh. You are the first person I’ve seen comment about the Stout. I’m curious what they are going to do with that.
Tim, Jill - Tacoma v. Canyon v. Ranger? Give us a vehicle comparison now that you've had a chance to touch all three. Overall design? Build quality? Interior space, comfort, and functionality? Capabilities?
I look forward to that after they get to drive them all.
This 2-door is the ultimate selfish Bro vehicle. No kids maybe a GF on occasion but plenty of gear. Looks great though. The 4-door and overall the re-design looks ok-ish except for the lower air-dam which looks 100% like an afterthought for better fuel economy numbers. Final prices and availability are key. Above a certain price might as well get a Tundra unless you just want a smaller toy vehicle.
I think the airdam was intentionally an afterthought. Appeases the EPA but also is kind to consumers who can easily remove and have the same look as TRD models.
@@ALMX5DP Yeah. It looks horrendous but it was mentioned in another video that it is very easy to remove. Good thing.
I don't like the jack-up rear of the pre runner
Will this have 4x4 option??
Yes, just not in the PreRunner trim. That's not the point of that truck.
Toyota screwed up with this one and should have made it a 4wd option for the real truck toyota enthusiast not just fan boys! Profits!
Pre runners are not 4wd…. This is just the pre runner package. They will still offer a 4x4 Tacoma
Gone Fishing truck
Weren't you just in Hawaii? Ha!
This is the overland expo. Surprised how fast these events pass and go
@@arhamkhakwani5851 I know. These guys and gals are working hard on the Tacoma debut.
Even in the demonstration you can see how dumb of a decision is to not being able to open doors
Really sucks the only choice is a turbo 4-cyl, something I'll NEVER buy.