I've been riding with an Icon Airflite for over a year and I totally disagree with all the negatives in this video. The fit is perfect, it's also a really quiet lid. And I've never seen my reflection in the visor. I do have pinlock installed so maybe that's why. But I actually find this helmet to be close to perfect.
TLDR: pull chin straps open to slip helmet on. My understanding is that this helmet fitment runs a bit smaller than most. Okay, that's easy to get. However, I have discovered, after finding it impossible to fit my head into this exact helmet, that I may have been putting my helmets on wrong, admittedly for around 9 years. I tried this method and it worked flawlessly, even with a helmet I own, I thought, a size too small, as a shelf display piece for the graphics. I pulled the chin straps outward a bit to get it on and not only did it NOT tug on my ears, the fit was freaking perfect. A helmet I couldn't get my head through the opening was now a piece of cake to put on and take off. I never thought something so simple could be overlooked for so long if I was the one doing it, but... here I am, finding out the helmet I thought couldn't even fit on my head, fit perfect. There are a few videos where some people go over the proper way to get a helmet on, here on youtube, I'd recommend those. It's just something that never crossed my mind prior to this infuriatingly small opening helmet.
I'm riding the Airflite for about 7k km now (riding it on a daily basis to/from work). - The helmet fits snug, but I dont feel any pain putting it on or off. The helmet IS loud because of the snap on stuff, where you swap the visor, thats a real flaw, but I have no problem doing 120km/h with it for longer periods (also did about 200km/h once, yay to the Autobahn). I'm riding with a RTS Red Visor (red mirrored) I have never felt the sensation to see my own reflection from the inside. Never felt any problems with drag when doing a shoulder check, but I got a windshield. - A HUGE benefit to the helmet is the gigantic field of view. - I would recommend the helmet to others. :]
I got this helmet as my first, and I absolutely love it. Put a little over 4,500 miles on my first bike this season. Got a cardo about 2,500 miles in. The only thing that I also experienced is the loudness from wind, which I do plan to mod by putting some material in the ear wells to absorb some sound. Although, I was able to find a sweet spot with my JBL earphones. Kinda gotta wiggle it on but to me that's a non-issue. Takes less than 10 seconds. Most of these issues seem to stem from fitting. I was instructed to wear it for an hour and was told that would be a pretty good indication of how it's gonna feel for the rest of the time I have it. I obviously can't tell from a video alone but I seem to have a very similar head profile as you (I'm also buzzed bald lol) but it does look like your head ear to ear is wider which I could definitely see making it rough. Wanted to note that your voice was battling the music in the 4th minute of the video. I'd suggest either automating overall levels in your video editor, or if you want to keep the songs' vibe- you can hop a DAW and sidechain it with a compressor, multiband compressor, or a reactive EQ.
love the vid. I own an icon airflite myself and i use it as a daily. I also have gone cross country (16 hour rides) and took naps with it on. normally I wear ear buds when I ride as hearing protection and so I can easily swap between my shoie rf1200. I ride a bmw rninet and looks, feel and fitment are just how I like them. it definitely is an oval shape. proprabley why its hurts you. I havent had any of the issues you had but it is nice to see what others think of this lid. keeps up the vids the editing is great.
yes they are a little more difficult putting on and taking off. Putting on now is much easier but still on the tight side with removing. A couple of bonuses with this is the snug fit I get so much less wind coming in from the bottom. Proper fit = less noise. Also when on it fits fantastic. Last helmet was easy to put on and fit properly but hit higher speeds the damn thing wanted to lift upwards. This stays put. I will put up with a little discomfort with the on/off to have a great fit that doesn't move around and feel like it is going to get sucked off my head at the higher speeds. It all comes down to getting a helmet to match your head.
I recently got mine. The black windshield doesnt have reflection problems, about the noise and wind resistance its waaay better than my old 80 dollars helmet. Now indeed it was really hard for me to take it off and painfull aswell but managed to fix that by reducing the size of the cheek foam, now it fits great. The field of vision its amazing, it was impossible to look down with my old one. The only thing i dislike is the straps even my cheap one have better, its very difficult to tie it with the helmet on.
I think the fitment issues you have are due to the fact that it is a long oval head-shape fit whereas basically all other helmets on the market are intermediate oval. Means it puts the side of your head under a lot of pressure, which you mentioned. I looked at the airflight and went instead with the scorpion exo st1400 in carbon fiber. Fitment is excellent, the inside pockets for my cardo speakers are superb, its just loud. Really loud. Cant ride without earplugs loud. Also, I notice most, if not all mirror tint visors do what you mentioned, so I wear shades, which the scorpion accommodates very well.
Gonna say anyone looking to get one should try one on. I happen to need a 2xl on their sizing. Most stores don't stock any brands helmets as big as that. So it was hard to try out. Yes, it's noisy. But if you grew up with race cars and death metal, and guns.. this isn't quite a big deal. But still, protect your ears. But I can say, I love this helmet. Everyone told me not to get it and now I've got 3, plenty of spare parts, etc. Idk what your deal is with the reflection. I will recommend, if you as a viewer try it, and it feels comfortable, go for it.
This guy is so soft lmfao 🤣 il talk from experience wearing this helmet 8 months DAILY which consists of 50 kilometers home to work and back. The helmet isn't that bad as of air noise before u reach 120 km/h after that its a bit noisy but nothing terrible as this softy states 🤣 visibility is excellent 👌 i wear a size Large and it fits perfect on my head because after daily use it "opened" up to the size of my head (which professional seller states that a helmet should be loose when u wear it after all eh?) Only downside i can find about this helmet is its weight but again, nothing terrible. I wont even talk about the "i see my reflection on the visor" shitty comment cuz its a retarded excuse. At the end of the day its a really good helmet with an affordable price and on top of that its really good looking and you'll definitely get good comments on stop lights. End of discussion
Went over to my local cycle gear weeks ago to get this particular helmet and ended up leaving with a shoei rf-1400. The icon airflite is for long oval shaped heads and it was way too tight for me, even an XL. Turns out I have an intermediate oval head and the shoei fit perfect! You were absolutely right about the helmet being too tight. I can’t say much since I didn’t buy it, but I’m glad I didn’t.
Your take on the fit is somewhat misleading...as the Airflight is not meant to fit your kind of head. You have a very round, large head and unfortunately the Airflight isn't designed for you. Its better suited for people who have longer, more oval shape heads from front to back. I have a perfect fit, no pressure, no fighting to get it on or off as you describe. My ears don't feel like they're getting ripped off. So that is the only part that i find misleading about your description of the helmet fit. You can literally see the difference when you put it next to another helmet. They're all round, while the Airflight is clearly more oval.
I've been wearing this helmet as a daily. I'm pretty sure it's up to preference but I bought this helmet for the unique design. I can agree on the sizing. I'm usually a medium-large but for this one I'm wearing a size XL and and the padding still is quite snug after breaking it in. After breaking it in, taking it off has become less painful on my ears. I use a Sena pro paired with his helmet and the sound is decent on the highway. I can definitely agree that this helmet isn't worth it for the price.
Fair enough! It may not have come across in the video, but I love the design of the helmet. It's easily the best-looking one out there in my opinion, I just wish everything else about it was equally as impressive. Icon is so close to having something groundbreaking, if only they'd correct their sizing and invest in a bit better materials and construction.
I'm no fan of Icon helmets, despite owning 2 Airframe Pros (the damn gaskets always come off). But the issue of wind noise goes hand in hand with the pros of venting heat well. When helmets get better with one, the other always suffers. Useful information to know, but can't consider that a con. Also the fit really isn't a con. Different helmets cater to different head shapes. Icons tend to fit longer heads better than they do round, which yours look to be. I know Arai isn't even remotely in the same price bracket, but fit wise it would have been better if you selected something from that range, or another brand with a similar fitting. I'll give you that with the visor though. Could be legitimate. Would have been better if you focused on tangible things like build quality (do vent covers break off easily, do rubber gaskets peel off early, etc) and weight distribution. Those would be more useful information removed from the variables of individual preferences.
The only exception to the rule I can think of for better ventilation with less noise would have to be the AGV k5 S. It's actually really quite inside but has excellent ventilation. The seal around the visor is snug enough that it keeps out a lot of the the noise and even with the visor open it's not too bad thanks to the removable padding against your ears. You can take these out to put in a comm unit so I'd imagine that would become a bit louder but I haven't tried that before. Also, it's light asf.
It's easier for me to open my mouth vent from the bottom I just push that little chin net outta the way. No reaching in thro where your eyes see out 👍👍 I really hope this help someone. It's like opening one of the modular crappy chin bar openers but your just reaching for your vent a inch or two more inside the helmet.
I've had the Icon Airflite for about 18 months, and the only issue you related that I've had is the noise. Yes, it's louder than my previous helmets, but the fit is WAY better. I've always worn earplugs when riding, so it's not a big issue, but it is noticeable. As for visor reflection, I *did* have that with the Scorpion helmet (my latest previous helmet), but not with the Icon. The only issue I've had is fogging of the visor in lower temps (like low 40's and into the 30's). I'm doing some experimenting, and may come up with a full solution soon. Too bad the Foggy Mask doesn't fit with this helmet. I noticed while watching your video that your head really doesn't have the long-oval shape that this helmet is meant to fit. That may be the root of your issue putting on/taking off the helmet. I've found it quite easy to don/doff after a couple weeks break-in, and it fits perfectly. I do, however, have a long-oval head shape.
Well.. i love mine to be honest. The airflow is great and ya it sucks to get off but i mean i spend about 30 seconds getting it on and adjusting. Noisey? I didn’t find it bad at all
You made some good valid points but the reflection happens even on my much more expensive AGV Pista & AGV K6 with iridium silver visor. For the price I think this helmet is pretty good bang for your buck, especially when your prioritizing style over function. Safety wise/fit finish it exceeds the infamous yet popular Ruroc Atlas 1,2 & 3 at a 30% the price. (Not sure how the upcoming Atlas 4.0 will be). When I'm just going to the cafe or to work I have sometimes picked this as it gets some serious positive attention with my casual gear.
This helmet is a long oval shape. I would say that you seem to have a rounder head and the helmet or no other helmet with this shape could fit your head well.
Only issue in reality is noise and it’s gone if you wear a hoodie. Also went down with it multiple times and always was safe with this helmet and never replaced it, my worst accident was at 120mph and honestly everyone was surprised how it held up. when I get back to riding I’m getting it again
Love this helmet, had mine years, nothing else looks as stylish. The sizing is an issue! Like you, ordered with correct measurements from website but it was too small. Had to get next size & that still took some breaking in. Otherwise an excellent helmet 👍
Bell’s are the only ones I’ve found that work with glasses. I do use the airflight as a daily. Occasionally I’ve seen the reflection, it’s due to the mirror visors(several others I’ve had did it too in the same conditions). The only other things I’ll agree with you on are the side drag and they are snug to get on/off. They don’t like glasses at all either. The Airform & Domain should be a better option for glasses riders. Both of my airflites are fairly quiet, the older one is a bit noisier than the newer one though. The only major issue I have is with the newer one, the cheek pads are a bit softer so the helmet will push back at high speeds even when tucked. All in all, IF your head fits in the Airflite, it’s a pretty good lid. I’ll probably try an Icon Domain at some point to not have to be restricted to contacts.
I have the same issue with my icon stealth…. I followed the size charts and it does fit snug but it’s tolerable…. Mind you I don’t have an oval head more of a round head hence the reason the snug fit but overall I’m happy with it
i have this helmet and the only con is it being loud, i don't see myself or have tight fitting issues. i am looking for a cardo for it but unsure which to buy
I had about the same experience as you with the Airflite. I bought that slick Brushed Aluminium color and damn, it looked good! Problem was it didn't fit my head and gave me constant headaches while riding in it. I never wanted to wear it, so I sold it and bought a $100 CKX RR619 that fits like a glove and its so much quieter and it's ECE rated.
Thank you. I'm a long oval head and the this is the only other helmet that Cycle Gear's filter covers up with for me, besides the ARAI Signet-X, which I had about 20 years ago and am looking at buying again. I was going to look at this icon For much less and being the only other for for my head crushing problems in most helmets but I think I'll eat the cost as being week worth it for the ARAI and this one not being with even the much lower price.
I had my heart set on one of these, but the lack of pinlock available shields at the time changed my mind. I ride almost year round up north (accept when it’s icy, snows, or gets REALLY cold) so fogging is an issue for me. The fit was good, and the graphics are killer, but being able to SEE where you’re going outweighed the looks. I walked out of the Cycle Gear with a Sedici Strada II, and love it. It fits great, is QUIET, and they had mirrored pinlock shields in stock!!! I’ll probably end up getting on of these later IF they get pinlock shields back in stock. The gloss carbon fiber Sedici is looking proper to, and my shields will interchange, so who knows!!!
I rode 30,000+ miles in my first icon air flight, I can agree with some of the things you’ve said. I am on my second icon air flight now. I have my complaints, but I stick with what I’m used to, and trust it’s a very safe option.
I've had mine for a year and i find the only thing to agree with you on is the wind noise. Other than that, i have a silver tinted visor without the reflection issue. I will say that when it comes to helmets each brand is different when it comes to fitment much like shoes. Great video though, and quite informative.
No experience with the Airflite, but I've been wearing an Icon Variant Pro for about a year. The fit was tight in the beginning but after a while it broke in nicely. I would consider buying another one when it needs to be replaced.
I have the rubatone peacekeeper in a large and I can only agree with a couple points. While the downside of it being loud with wind noise, I'm able to hear more of my surroundings better than my Shoei RF-1100. Seeing my reflection on the inside of the visor bugged me in the beginning, but aren't we all supposed to focus more on what's in the distance rather that what's directly in front of us? I've worn mine for about a year and a half but my pads haven't broken down enough for my ears to come out easily yet. I had 1" gauges when I first got it and have forgotten to take them out a couple times with my head getting stuck inside. Definitely a snug fit I'd say. Would I buy another? Probably not. I define fell for the cool factor and I still wear it all the time. It's served me well on lots of group rides with no major complaints.
Having this helmet for over a year now, I approve everything you said. I'm 6'3 and thank god i've got an oval shape head but still sometimes I get headaches probably due to the fact it presses on my cheekbones. I wear an M because L was too loose. I also hate that there's no clip mechanism.
I bought one of these 7 months ago, it is unbelievably loud, i put some tape over the side covers so they didnt act as an air scoop and it helped, its till loud regardless of if the vents are open or close, i emailed Icon and they said they've never had anyone mention how loud it was. I am really upset i bought the helmet and got the bluetooth unit to go with it, which, like you mentioned, the speakers push in my ears because the cutout isn't deep enough. I have a fair amount of icon stuff and with how the completely disregarded my issue with the helmet i will not buy anything they make ever again.
Nice video, for me, arai helmets fit really nice. My advice for anyone, new or experienced, go out and try helmets on and never skimp. Budget £500+ for a helmet I’d say, it’s your life at risk at the end of the day!
I just ordered an icon airflight helmet in the recommended size according to the circumfrance of my head which is just shy of 22 inches I would require a medium according to icons size chart . I decided to order a large just to be safe ....Well... I got the thing and you are right it was so tight It was a wonder I even got it on my head . There was no way on Gods green earth I was fitting into a medium . It was painfull to put on and I felt like I was going to pass out once it was on . So now I have to return it ! Grrrrr!! pain in my ass! Lets hope the xxl is a better fit . Anyways I spoke to an icon tech and told her my previous helmet which is made by speed and strength is an xxl . She told me they go by the same chart , but yet my 22 inch head wouldn't fit comfortably in a large much less a recommended medium according to icons size chart ,so you were right about the sizing for sure. Bad size chart measurement by icon. Buyers beware, just saying . I'm not sure about the rest of the negatives on this helmet review but I guess I'll find out in a few days . can't wait to get it .
gotta understand head shape when sizing...my head is shaped like an elephant stepped on me sideways at birth. Look up long oval in the dictionary and there's my picture! The only helmet that has fit me to date is the Aria Signet Q in larger...looking forward to trying one of these!
I definitely agree with the checking over your shoulder thing. At faster highway speeds I can barely turn my head to check next lane. New rider and only helmet I’ve used so far. Wasn’t sure if that was normal or not.
I 10,000% agree with this!! Inwore my airflite for 6 hours in hot tx weather and still never broke in...and i've been thru 3 headsets and NONE of them can be heard, especially on the phone!
Having ALL the same issues... except for the Bluetooth... my speakers are very thin... but yea, can't hear sh*t at speed. Headache, too tight... looking for slutions atm
I had same fit problems with HJC helmets. Love the style but after 30 minutes of ride , my forehead gets sore from the pressure of helmet. Tried bigger size and changed the padding with no relief. After purchasing several helmet brands, I find Shoei and Arai helmets were most comfortable for my head shape. The big forehead type lol Gotta go with a brand designed for your head and face shape.
The fit for your helmet is really up to your head. It is like that different brands make helmets for different types of heads. You have to try different ones and choose. Not recommending to buy helmet online because of that reason. Because you like the specs, and you follow the sizing guide, doesn`t mean that it will fit you nicely.
The peacemaker addresses some of these issues but a lot of people still complain about the noise and looking over your shoulders, as well as riding with the shield up acting like a parachute.
Helmets that allow airflow, are usually louder, I always wear earplugs with any helmet. mine fits great, excelent visibility . You shouldn’t speak on things that you don’t fully understand. And yes, this is my daily
I have one debating of selling it so I can get a shoei but I love the way it looks and the ventilation that’s about it everything he stated is the exact same experience I had with my icon helmet I just bought a kyt helmet gonna see if it’s an improvement or if I should just waited for the shoei
I ride with this helmet daily.. and I can't ride with my glasses.. it hurts . And head aches. And I fog up alot... when montana weather is cold... there is down sides of it but I do like it as well.. I like how tight it fits... and it doesn't move around at high speed... and I will agree you can't listen to music or GPS when at higher speeds
I think it all depends on the shape of your head and what are your priorities when buying a helmet, when i was younger mi father gives me his old helmets as he was having new ones, i had caberg, hjc, schubert and arai and for me that i use it all days to go to work and come back hime ( i live in Madrid spain ) icon helmets are the perfect step betwen having a good (safe) helmet, one of the better airflows and a cool desing and not having to pay 600€ plus for a nice and pretty helmet from brands like arai hjc ( the carnage one is nuts but over 1000 €) and some other helmets thar i definitely would chek if i was planning to get in to track
On the website it states that each helmet is designed for a specific headshape and yours does not match the shape in which that helmet was produced for.. it helps to read things guys
I have the BILT Blaze 2 jacket that I just got that is in this video. It's really cool and flows a lot of air. I have a Revit jacket too that's also pretty decent for summer
Dude did you do any research before you bought this helmet at all?? Different brands suit different head shapes and you clearly chose one that’s wrong for you 🤦♂️
Before buying one from an online vendor, I'd recommend trying them on. I'm a XXL helmet size for Bell and Simpson. Not so much Icon airflite. They run extremely small.
I completely understand your point. But i have to say i love my Helmet. I have it for 4 years now and yes, the first month i was ripping my ears of, but after that its completely fine now. Its loud, louder than others but i can always still hear my music. And im from Germany so even with 240 km/h i can hear musik and its ok. I think you got unlucky with how the helmet fits you. Its definitely not a beginner helmet, but i have to say i like it a lot. (and its my Daily helmet) PS: Englisch is not my first language, so sorry for typos.
The things is Icon is really oval helmet. If your head is round like yours - that helmet is a torture like you said. For me - it fits perfectly. Other things like reflection and loudness - I agree ;) BTW - amazing motorcycle you have. One could just sit and admire it for hours. Be safe on the road brother!
Listen if you buy this helmet the cheek pads can be downsized for a better fit. Also if you install Bluetooth speakers, you do have to spend some time on speaker placement this helps with sound and fit. I don’t have issues with wind noise and I don’t have any issues with my tint shield. I would recommend this helmet. I wear it as my everyday. I also have a scorpion and a ruroc.
To be fair, it looks like you have quite a round head shape and the Icon Airflite is supposed to be for long oval heads. That might be why you find it so uncomfortable to wear and also why you couldn't find the right size for you - it just isn't shaped for your head. That might also explain why it was so noisy for you: the better it goes you, the less noisy it is
ive had the Airflite since they launched because it was the most unique and yes everything you've complained about i have had issues with as well. Mine isnt quite as loud as your saying but definite wind noise for sure. LOL I thought I was tripping the first time i saw my eyes looking back at me from the visor. I have a second helmet for long rides to listen to music on because the designated speaker slots couldnt hold a paperclip without it digging into your ears. I still love the helmet for the looks but i find myself grabbing the other helmet more often for the comfort. Hopefully Icon will take a video like this and re-evaluate the design and fix the flaws without drastic changes to the overall design so i can keep and reuse my visors. thanks for the vid.
When I first started riding in 2006. I bought an Icon jacket and it was terrible. So now as someone coming back to motorcycles after about 10 years off I was curious if there stuff had improved. The mix of reviews leads me to believe that in fact it hasn't I'll probably end up with a Shoei RF-1400. Sad because I actually like how customizable there stuff is, and looks.
All I hear is "I chose the wrong helmet for my head shape... lets blame the helmet." Bro, this helmet, when worn by someone with the appropriate head shape for it is a great helmet. Comfortable, easy to see and look around and not too heavy.
@@omage4209 I'm not sure off the top of my head. I purchased my helmet on revzi6 and they have a head sizing chart. My 1st ever helmet I was size medium so when I purchased the icon as a medium. However, when it came in the mail it was so tight on my head I thought my eyes were going to pop out of my skull. So I returned it and got one size larger which would be the large size. I say go check out Revzilla and see what is your head size. Then go up one size for the icon helmet.
I'm a double XL on this helmet on an Excel in most all other helmets. XXL on this helmet is the most comfortable helmet I've ever worn in my life no comparison
I have to say about the fitment of this helmet is this helmet is an intermediate oval shape so if you don't have that head shape it will fit tight on your head and even if you do have this head shape it will fit snug, but you want your helmet to fit snug the number 52-55 means when you put the helmet on it is a 52 but when the helmet breaks in it is a 55 so if your head diameter is 52,53,54or 55 and you have an intermediate oval head shape you want to go with a 52-55 because once it breaks in it will be the perfect size for your head. As for how loud the helmet is pretty much if you want a helmet that has a lot of air flow it will be loud without a doubt and as for the refection of yourself in the visor, I have never notice myself in any of my visors ever. Lol
I agree, i where a Large with Bilt Helmets so I chose Large with icon. It was super tight! I got an Xl and it’s still tight. I really think Large size rider need XXL smh.
I've been riding with an Icon Airflite for over a year and I totally disagree with all the negatives in this video. The fit is perfect, it's also a really quiet lid. And I've never seen my reflection in the visor. I do have pinlock installed so maybe that's why. But I actually find this helmet to be close to perfect.
He uses glasses, do you?
That’s interesting because I just found this video after buying the helmet and I agree with every down side he has stated.
personal opinions exist
Yes I do@@PolitoLopez
indeed they do, and I'm expressing mine
@@0Thijs
TLDR: pull chin straps open to slip helmet on.
My understanding is that this helmet fitment runs a bit smaller than most. Okay, that's easy to get. However, I have discovered, after finding it impossible to fit my head into this exact helmet, that I may have been putting my helmets on wrong, admittedly for around 9 years. I tried this method and it worked flawlessly, even with a helmet I own, I thought, a size too small, as a shelf display piece for the graphics. I pulled the chin straps outward a bit to get it on and not only did it NOT tug on my ears, the fit was freaking perfect. A helmet I couldn't get my head through the opening was now a piece of cake to put on and take off. I never thought something so simple could be overlooked for so long if I was the one doing it, but... here I am, finding out the helmet I thought couldn't even fit on my head, fit perfect. There are a few videos where some people go over the proper way to get a helmet on, here on youtube, I'd recommend those. It's just something that never crossed my mind prior to this infuriatingly small opening helmet.
I'm riding the Airflite for about 7k km now (riding it on a daily basis to/from work). - The helmet fits snug, but I dont feel any pain putting it on or off. The helmet IS loud because of the snap on stuff, where you swap the visor, thats a real flaw, but I have no problem doing 120km/h with it for longer periods (also did about 200km/h once, yay to the Autobahn). I'm riding with a RTS Red Visor (red mirrored) I have never felt the sensation to see my own reflection from the inside. Never felt any problems with drag when doing a shoulder check, but I got a windshield. - A HUGE benefit to the helmet is the gigantic field of view. - I would recommend the helmet to others. :]
I got this helmet as my first, and I absolutely love it. Put a little over 4,500 miles on my first bike this season. Got a cardo about 2,500 miles in. The only thing that I also experienced is the loudness from wind, which I do plan to mod by putting some material in the ear wells to absorb some sound. Although, I was able to find a sweet spot with my JBL earphones. Kinda gotta wiggle it on but to me that's a non-issue. Takes less than 10 seconds. Most of these issues seem to stem from fitting. I was instructed to wear it for an hour and was told that would be a pretty good indication of how it's gonna feel for the rest of the time I have it. I obviously can't tell from a video alone but I seem to have a very similar head profile as you (I'm also buzzed bald lol) but it does look like your head ear to ear is wider which I could definitely see making it rough.
Wanted to note that your voice was battling the music in the 4th minute of the video. I'd suggest either automating overall levels in your video editor, or if you want to keep the songs' vibe- you can hop a DAW and sidechain it with a compressor, multiband compressor, or a reactive EQ.
use earplugs
Sound engineers unite 😂😂😂
you went above and beyond on this comment, good stuff fam
love the vid. I own an icon airflite myself and i use it as a daily. I also have gone cross country (16 hour rides) and took naps with it on. normally I wear ear buds when I ride as hearing protection and so I can easily swap between my shoie rf1200. I ride a bmw rninet and looks, feel and fitment are just how I like them. it definitely is an oval shape. proprabley why its hurts you. I havent had any of the issues you had but it is nice to see what others think of this lid. keeps up the vids the editing is great.
Same.
Which seems quiter the icon or rf1200?
@@billygreene1247 rf1200 is much quieter but icon has more airflow
I like mine. To each their own though.
yes they are a little more difficult putting on and taking off. Putting on now is much easier but still on the tight side with removing. A couple of bonuses with this is the snug fit I get so much less wind coming in from the bottom. Proper fit = less noise. Also when on it fits fantastic. Last helmet was easy to put on and fit properly but hit higher speeds the damn thing wanted to lift upwards. This stays put. I will put up with a little discomfort with the on/off to have a great fit that doesn't move around and feel like it is going to get sucked off my head at the higher speeds. It all comes down to getting a helmet to match your head.
Icon is legit
basically my guy bought a helmet too small
Twice. What a Muppet.
I recently got mine. The black windshield doesnt have reflection problems, about the noise and wind resistance its waaay better than my old 80 dollars helmet. Now indeed it was really hard for me to take it off and painfull aswell but managed to fix that by reducing the size of the cheek foam, now it fits great. The field of vision its amazing, it was impossible to look down with my old one. The only thing i dislike is the straps even my cheap one have better, its very difficult to tie it with the helmet on.
I think the fitment issues you have are due to the fact that it is a long oval head-shape fit whereas basically all other helmets on the market are intermediate oval. Means it puts the side of your head under a lot of pressure, which you mentioned. I looked at the airflight and went instead with the scorpion exo st1400 in carbon fiber. Fitment is excellent, the inside pockets for my cardo speakers are superb, its just loud. Really loud. Cant ride without earplugs loud. Also, I notice most, if not all mirror tint visors do what you mentioned, so I wear shades, which the scorpion accommodates very well.
I second that. Just because this helmet doesn't fit your headshape doesn't make it bad. It's kinda helmet fitting 101.
If it doesnt fit your head, get a different size? not that difficult...
Sounds like this guy bought the wrong size...
Gonna say anyone looking to get one should try one on. I happen to need a 2xl on their sizing. Most stores don't stock any brands helmets as big as that. So it was hard to try out.
Yes, it's noisy. But if you grew up with race cars and death metal, and guns.. this isn't quite a big deal. But still, protect your ears.
But I can say, I love this helmet. Everyone told me not to get it and now I've got 3, plenty of spare parts, etc.
Idk what your deal is with the reflection.
I will recommend, if you as a viewer try it, and it feels comfortable, go for it.
what size are you normally??
Thank you was about to rush into buy this because it looks so good, but definitely value my comfort while riding especially since I’m new
This guy is so soft lmfao 🤣 il talk from experience wearing this helmet 8 months DAILY which consists of 50 kilometers home to work and back. The helmet isn't that bad as of air noise before u reach 120 km/h after that its a bit noisy but nothing terrible as this softy states 🤣 visibility is excellent 👌 i wear a size Large and it fits perfect on my head because after daily use it "opened" up to the size of my head (which professional seller states that a helmet should be loose when u wear it after all eh?) Only downside i can find about this helmet is its weight but again, nothing terrible. I wont even talk about the "i see my reflection on the visor" shitty comment cuz its a retarded excuse. At the end of the day its a really good helmet with an affordable price and on top of that its really good looking and you'll definitely get good comments on stop lights. End of discussion
Went over to my local cycle gear weeks ago to get this particular helmet and ended up leaving with a shoei rf-1400. The icon airflite is for long oval shaped heads and it was way too tight for me, even an XL. Turns out I have an intermediate oval head and the shoei fit perfect! You were absolutely right about the helmet being too tight. I can’t say much since I didn’t buy it, but I’m glad I didn’t.
I'll tell you what, this experience made me a believer in trying things out before I buy them.
I have an icon airtight. It was my first helmet. If I could go back i would DEFINITELY get something different. Mostlikely a sadici
Your take on the fit is somewhat misleading...as the Airflight is not meant to fit your kind of head. You have a very round, large head and unfortunately the Airflight isn't designed for you. Its better suited for people who have longer, more oval shape heads from front to back. I have a perfect fit, no pressure, no fighting to get it on or off as you describe. My ears don't feel like they're getting ripped off. So that is the only part that i find misleading about your description of the helmet fit. You can literally see the difference when you put it next to another helmet. They're all round, while the Airflight is clearly more oval.
I've been wearing this helmet as a daily. I'm pretty sure it's up to preference but I bought this helmet for the unique design. I can agree on the sizing. I'm usually a medium-large but for this one I'm wearing a size XL and and the padding still is quite snug after breaking it in. After breaking it in, taking it off has become less painful on my ears. I use a Sena pro paired with his helmet and the sound is decent on the highway. I can definitely agree that this helmet isn't worth it for the price.
Fair enough! It may not have come across in the video, but I love the design of the helmet. It's easily the best-looking one out there in my opinion, I just wish everything else about it was equally as impressive. Icon is so close to having something groundbreaking, if only they'd correct their sizing and invest in a bit better materials and construction.
Price is mad cheap. Lol
Is the Helmet DOT certified
I'm no fan of Icon helmets, despite owning 2 Airframe Pros (the damn gaskets always come off). But the issue of wind noise goes hand in hand with the pros of venting heat well. When helmets get better with one, the other always suffers. Useful information to know, but can't consider that a con.
Also the fit really isn't a con. Different helmets cater to different head shapes. Icons tend to fit longer heads better than they do round, which yours look to be. I know Arai isn't even remotely in the same price bracket, but fit wise it would have been better if you selected something from that range, or another brand with a similar fitting.
I'll give you that with the visor though. Could be legitimate.
Would have been better if you focused on tangible things like build quality (do vent covers break off easily, do rubber gaskets peel off early, etc) and weight distribution. Those would be more useful information removed from the variables of individual preferences.
The only exception to the rule I can think of for better ventilation with less noise would have to be the AGV k5 S. It's actually really quite inside but has excellent ventilation. The seal around the visor is snug enough that it keeps out a lot of the the noise and even with the visor open it's not too bad thanks to the removable padding against your ears. You can take these out to put in a comm unit so I'd imagine that would become a bit louder but I haven't tried that before.
Also, it's light asf.
It's easier for me to open my mouth vent from the bottom I just push that little chin net outta the way. No reaching in thro where your eyes see out 👍👍 I really hope this help someone. It's like opening one of the modular crappy chin bar openers but your just reaching for your vent a inch or two more inside the helmet.
I've had the Icon Airflite for about 18 months, and the only issue you related that I've had is the noise. Yes, it's louder than my previous helmets, but the fit is WAY better. I've always worn earplugs when riding, so it's not a big issue, but it is noticeable. As for visor reflection, I *did* have that with the Scorpion helmet (my latest previous helmet), but not with the Icon. The only issue I've had is fogging of the visor in lower temps (like low 40's and into the 30's). I'm doing some experimenting, and may come up with a full solution soon. Too bad the Foggy Mask doesn't fit with this helmet.
I noticed while watching your video that your head really doesn't have the long-oval shape that this helmet is meant to fit. That may be the root of your issue putting on/taking off the helmet. I've found it quite easy to don/doff after a couple weeks break-in, and it fits perfectly. I do, however, have a long-oval head shape.
Well.. i love mine to be honest. The airflow is great and ya it sucks to get off but i mean i spend about 30 seconds getting it on and adjusting. Noisey? I didn’t find it bad at all
Glad to find this vid. I tried one on and felt the exact same and wear glasses too. Thanks for reviewing
You made some good valid points but the reflection happens even on my much more expensive AGV Pista & AGV K6 with iridium silver visor. For the price I think this helmet is pretty good bang for your buck, especially when your prioritizing style over function. Safety wise/fit finish it exceeds the infamous yet popular Ruroc Atlas 1,2 & 3 at a 30% the price. (Not sure how the upcoming Atlas 4.0 will be). When I'm just going to the cafe or to work I have sometimes picked this as it gets some serious positive attention with my casual gear.
if you have a $2k helmet why do you have a $300 helmet?
Thanks! I was driving on the way to pick up one and now turning around
Appreciate your honest review, thanks!
This helmet is a long oval shape. I would say that you seem to have a rounder head and the helmet or no other helmet with this shape could fit your head well.
Only issue in reality is noise and it’s gone if you wear a hoodie. Also went down with it multiple times and always was safe with this helmet and never replaced it, my worst accident was at 120mph and honestly everyone was surprised how it held up. when I get back to riding I’m getting it again
Love this helmet, had mine years, nothing else looks as stylish. The sizing is an issue! Like you, ordered with correct measurements from website but it was too small. Had to get next size & that still took some breaking in. Otherwise an excellent helmet 👍
Bell’s are the only ones I’ve found that work with glasses. I do use the airflight as a daily. Occasionally I’ve seen the reflection, it’s due to the mirror visors(several others I’ve had did it too in the same conditions). The only other things I’ll agree with you on are the side drag and they are snug to get on/off. They don’t like glasses at all either. The Airform & Domain should be a better option for glasses riders. Both of my airflites are fairly quiet, the older one is a bit noisier than the newer one though. The only major issue I have is with the newer one, the cheek pads are a bit softer so the helmet will push back at high speeds even when tucked. All in all, IF your head fits in the Airflite, it’s a pretty good lid. I’ll probably try an Icon Domain at some point to not have to be restricted to contacts.
I have the same issue with my icon stealth…. I followed the size charts and it does fit snug but it’s tolerable…. Mind you I don’t have an oval head more of a round head hence the reason the snug fit but overall I’m happy with it
i have this helmet and the only con is it being loud, i don't see myself or have tight fitting issues. i am looking for a cardo for it but unsure which to buy
I had about the same experience as you with the Airflite. I bought that slick Brushed Aluminium color and damn, it looked good!
Problem was it didn't fit my head and gave me constant headaches while riding in it. I never wanted to wear it, so I sold it and bought a $100 CKX RR619 that fits like a glove and its so much quieter and it's ECE rated.
Air flight is ece rated as well.
@@marcusbrown2640 the updated version is, yes
Is it truly a long oval shape for "long oval" head shapes. could this be why wrong fit for non long oval heads?
What a nice review! Thanks bro 😎
I got this helmet for looks. I, too, had to go a size larger. Still love it after 8 months of daily.
Thank you. I'm a long oval head and the this is the only other helmet that Cycle Gear's filter covers up with for me, besides the ARAI Signet-X, which I had about 20 years ago and am looking at buying again. I was going to look at this icon For much less and being the only other for for my head crushing problems in most helmets but I think I'll eat the cost as being week worth it for the ARAI and this one not being with even the much lower price.
what is in your opinion best to buy ?
I had my heart set on one of these, but the lack of pinlock available shields at the time changed my mind. I ride almost year round up north (accept when it’s icy, snows, or gets REALLY cold) so fogging is an issue for me. The fit was good, and the graphics are killer, but being able to SEE where you’re going outweighed the looks. I walked out of the Cycle Gear with a Sedici Strada II, and love it. It fits great, is QUIET, and they had mirrored pinlock shields in stock!!! I’ll probably end up getting on of these later IF they get pinlock shields back in stock. The gloss carbon fiber Sedici is looking proper to, and my shields will interchange, so who knows!!!
fogging is no issue at all unless you have glasses. it counts for every helmet.
I rode 30,000+ miles in my first icon air flight, I can agree with some of the things you’ve said. I am on my second icon air flight now. I have my complaints, but I stick with what I’m used to, and trust it’s a very safe option.
What shape is your head? Intermediate oval, Round?
Your face is way prettier outside of the helmet. I was cursed too bro.
What jacket is that your wearing on video? I new rider and currently riding a Biltwell Lanesplitter. They offer a gold lens
Ride : 21 Scout Bobber
Hey thanks for stopping by again lol. This jacket is the BILT Blaze 2, it's pretty nice for warmer weather.
I've had mine for a year and i find the only thing to agree with you on is the wind noise. Other than that, i have a silver tinted visor without the reflection issue. I will say that when it comes to helmets each brand is different when it comes to fitment much like shoes. Great video though, and quite informative.
No experience with the Airflite, but I've been wearing an Icon Variant Pro for about a year. The fit was tight in the beginning but after a while it broke in nicely. I would consider buying another one when it needs to be replaced.
Need an eBike full face helmet for my electric bike. Almost got this helmet until I watched your video. What do you recommend for 2023?
Thanks for the review, I was about to buy this helmet.
I'm a scooter/ebike rider looking at getting one of these. If you have recommendations for other helmets I'd like to hear them. Thanks.
It's for long oval headshapes, so it's going to fit very tight on most people's heads. Good review
I have the rubatone peacekeeper in a large and I can only agree with a couple points. While the downside of it being loud with wind noise, I'm able to hear more of my surroundings better than my Shoei RF-1100. Seeing my reflection on the inside of the visor bugged me in the beginning, but aren't we all supposed to focus more on what's in the distance rather that what's directly in front of us? I've worn mine for about a year and a half but my pads haven't broken down enough for my ears to come out easily yet. I had 1" gauges when I first got it and have forgotten to take them out a couple times with my head getting stuck inside. Definitely a snug fit I'd say. Would I buy another? Probably not. I define fell for the cool factor and I still wear it all the time. It's served me well on lots of group rides with no major complaints.
Having this helmet for over a year now, I approve everything you said. I'm 6'3 and thank god i've got an oval shape head but still sometimes I get headaches probably due to the fact it presses on my cheekbones. I wear an M because L was too loose. I also hate that there's no clip mechanism.
What’s your head measurement bro (in cm)
I bought one of these 7 months ago, it is unbelievably loud, i put some tape over the side covers so they didnt act as an air scoop and it helped, its till loud regardless of if the vents are open or close, i emailed Icon and they said they've never had anyone mention how loud it was.
I am really upset i bought the helmet and got the bluetooth unit to go with it, which, like you mentioned, the speakers push in my ears because the cutout isn't deep enough.
I have a fair amount of icon stuff and with how the completely disregarded my issue with the helmet i will not buy anything they make ever again.
whats the jacket he is wearing
Nice video, for me, arai helmets fit really nice.
My advice for anyone, new or experienced, go out and try helmets on and never skimp. Budget £500+ for a helmet I’d say, it’s your life at risk at the end of the day!
Was just looking at this exact helemt 2 weeks ago. Thanks for the info 👍
Glad I could help!
I just ordered an icon airflight helmet in the recommended size according to the circumfrance of my head which is just shy of 22 inches I would require a medium according to icons size chart . I decided to order a large just to be safe ....Well... I got the thing and you are right it was so tight It was a wonder I even got it on my head . There was no way on Gods green earth I was fitting into a medium . It was painfull to put on and I felt like I was going to pass out once it was on . So now I have to return it ! Grrrrr!! pain in my ass! Lets hope the xxl is a better fit . Anyways I spoke to an icon tech and told her my previous helmet which is made by speed and strength is an xxl . She told me they go by the same chart , but yet my 22 inch head wouldn't fit comfortably in a large much less a recommended medium according to icons size chart ,so you were right about the sizing for sure. Bad size chart measurement by icon. Buyers beware, just saying . I'm not sure about the rest of the negatives on this helmet review but I guess I'll find out in a few days . can't wait to get it .
could you do a review of the scorpion exo390 beat? would love to hear some honest user experience and drawbacks other than just praise
I can definitely do that. Keep an eye on the channel in the next weeks
gotta understand head shape when sizing...my head is shaped like an elephant stepped on me sideways at birth. Look up long oval in the dictionary and there's my picture! The only helmet that has fit me to date is the Aria Signet Q in larger...looking forward to trying one of these!
I definitely agree with the checking over your shoulder thing. At faster highway speeds I can barely turn my head to check next lane. New rider and only helmet I’ve used so far. Wasn’t sure if that was normal or not.
It’s always kind of an issue in full-face helmets, but not nearly as bad as it is with the Airflite!
it's an issue with every helmet. if you can tell the difference between two full face helmets then mad props to you and your sensitivity.
I 10,000% agree with this!! Inwore my airflite for 6 hours in hot tx weather and still never broke in...and i've been thru 3 headsets and NONE of them can be heard, especially on the phone!
Having ALL the same issues... except for the Bluetooth... my speakers are very thin... but yea, can't hear sh*t at speed. Headache, too tight... looking for slutions atm
Fitment always depends on the person they fit perfectly on me best fit
I had same fit problems with HJC helmets. Love the style but after 30 minutes of ride , my forehead gets sore from the pressure of helmet. Tried bigger size and changed the padding with no relief. After purchasing several helmet brands,
I find Shoei and Arai helmets were most comfortable for my head shape. The big forehead type lol
Gotta go with a brand designed for your head and face shape.
The fit for your helmet is really up to your head. It is like that different brands make helmets for different types of heads. You have to try different ones and choose. Not recommending to buy helmet online because of that reason. Because you like the specs, and you follow the sizing guide, doesn`t mean that it will fit you nicely.
The peacemaker addresses some of these issues but a lot of people still complain about the noise and looking over your shoulders, as well as riding with the shield up acting like a parachute.
Helmets that allow airflow, are usually louder, I always wear earplugs with any helmet. mine fits great, excelent visibility . You shouldn’t speak on things that you don’t fully understand. And yes, this is my daily
Are you serious? Earplugs at all is weak... but with a helmet lol. Poor girl. I rode 1st 6 years with no helmet. 🤦♂️
I have one debating of selling it so I can get a shoei but I love the way it looks and the ventilation that’s about it everything he stated is the exact same experience I had with my icon helmet I just bought a kyt helmet gonna see if it’s an improvement or if I should just waited for the shoei
I ride with this helmet daily.. and I can't ride with my glasses.. it hurts . And head aches. And I fog up alot... when montana weather is cold... there is down sides of it but I do like it as well.. I like how tight it fits... and it doesn't move around at high speed... and I will agree you can't listen to music or GPS when at higher speeds
I think it all depends on the shape of your head and what are your priorities when buying a helmet, when i was younger mi father gives me his old helmets as he was having new ones, i had caberg, hjc, schubert and arai and for me that i use it all days to go to work and come back hime ( i live in Madrid spain ) icon helmets are the perfect step betwen having a good (safe) helmet, one of the better airflows and a cool desing and not having to pay 600€ plus for a nice and pretty helmet from brands like arai hjc ( the carnage one is nuts but over 1000 €) and some other helmets thar i definitely would chek if i was planning to get in to track
On the website it states that each helmet is designed for a specific headshape and yours does not match the shape in which that helmet was produced for.. it helps to read things guys
Thanks, dude, valuable review
Can I ask you what jacket do you recommend for the Texas heat? I know textile but is there a brand I should trust over another?
I have the BILT Blaze 2 jacket that I just got that is in this video. It's really cool and flows a lot of air. I have a Revit jacket too that's also pretty decent for summer
Dude did you do any research before you bought this helmet at all?? Different brands suit different head shapes and you clearly chose one that’s wrong for you 🤦♂️
Bro, you read my mind, put the helmet on top of the camera. Top review
Thanks for not being that guy trying to sell this with a link.
Before buying one from an online vendor, I'd recommend trying them on. I'm a XXL helmet size for Bell and Simpson. Not so much Icon airflite. They run extremely small.
I completely understand your point. But i have to say i love my Helmet. I have it for 4 years now and yes, the first month i was ripping my ears of, but after that its completely fine now. Its loud, louder than others but i can always still hear my music. And im from Germany so even with 240 km/h i can hear musik and its ok. I think you got unlucky with how the helmet fits you. Its definitely not a beginner helmet, but i have to say i like it a lot. (and its my Daily helmet)
PS: Englisch is not my first language, so sorry for typos.
Thanks for the heads up.
The things is Icon is really oval helmet. If your head is round like yours - that helmet is a torture like you said. For me - it fits perfectly. Other things like reflection and loudness - I agree ;) BTW - amazing motorcycle you have. One could just sit and admire it for hours. Be safe on the road brother!
Thanks for the unfiltered review. I'm looking for a quiet helmet, and it appears ICON doesn't know how to make one.
I love your review tone. You should review EVERYTHING, but always hyper-negativily. You’re gonna be a millionaire you do that.
Listen if you buy this helmet the cheek pads can be downsized for a better fit. Also if you install Bluetooth speakers, you do have to spend some time on speaker placement this helps with sound and fit. I don’t have issues with wind noise and I don’t have any issues with my tint shield. I would recommend this helmet. I wear it as my everyday. I also have a scorpion and a ruroc.
To be fair, it looks like you have quite a round head shape and the Icon Airflite is supposed to be for long oval heads. That might be why you find it so uncomfortable to wear and also why you couldn't find the right size for you - it just isn't shaped for your head. That might also explain why it was so noisy for you: the better it goes you, the less noisy it is
ive had the Airflite since they launched because it was the most unique and yes everything you've complained about i have had issues with as well. Mine isnt quite as loud as your saying but definite wind noise for sure. LOL I thought I was tripping the first time i saw my eyes looking back at me from the visor. I have a second helmet for long rides to listen to music on because the designated speaker slots couldnt hold a paperclip without it digging into your ears. I still love the helmet for the looks but i find myself grabbing the other helmet more often for the comfort. Hopefully Icon will take a video like this and re-evaluate the design and fix the flaws without drastic changes to the overall design so i can keep and reuse my visors. thanks for the vid.
When I first started riding in 2006. I bought an Icon jacket and it was terrible. So now as someone coming back to motorcycles after about 10 years off I was curious if there stuff had improved. The mix of reviews leads me to believe that in fact it hasn't I'll probably end up with a Shoei RF-1400. Sad because I actually like how customizable there stuff is, and looks.
All I hear is "I chose the wrong helmet for my head shape... lets blame the helmet."
Bro, this helmet, when worn by someone with the appropriate head shape for it is a great helmet. Comfortable, easy to see and look around and not too heavy.
Hey thanks for your review
Love the bike, I bought an Icon helmet size MD. When it arrived I put it on and it was torture. I returned it and got a LG. Hopefully it will fit.
What size is you're head 58.5 cm ?
Mines 58-60cm I want to know what size I need
@@omage4209 I'm not sure off the top of my head. I purchased my helmet on revzi6 and they have a head sizing chart. My 1st ever helmet I was size medium so when I purchased the icon as a medium. However, when it came in the mail it was so tight on my head I thought my eyes were going to pop out of my skull. So I returned it and got one size larger which would be the large size. I say go check out Revzilla and see what is your head size. Then go up one size for the icon helmet.
@@Joseph-wh5ofok thank you
@@Joseph-wh5of would it be wrong to go up two head sizes ? Or should I just stick with one size up. Right now I'm looking at a xl and a XXL
Yep. This was my first helmet and mannnnnnnn it was tight as hell. Like tight tight.
Hi I like your jacket wat brand is that? En wer I can buy?
This is the Bilt Blaze 2 jacket. I got it on Revzilla, but I'm sure it's available on other sites too
I have this helmet, it’s loud , and taking it off does hurt my ear. However, it’s aesthetically pleasing and very good for summer
Thinking of getting it just for some grom stunt riding
Thanks buddy enjoy the mad bike life
Does anyone find this helmet bulky on the outside?
I'm a double XL on this helmet on an Excel in most all other helmets. XXL on this helmet is the most comfortable helmet I've ever worn in my life no comparison
Thank you, bro!
I save a lots of money ;)
I have to say about the fitment of this helmet is this helmet is an intermediate oval shape so if you don't have that head shape it will fit tight on your head and even if you do have this head shape it will fit snug, but you want your helmet to fit snug the number 52-55 means when you put the helmet on it is a 52 but when the helmet breaks in it is a 55 so if your head diameter is 52,53,54or 55 and you have an intermediate oval head shape you want to go with a 52-55 because once it breaks in it will be the perfect size for your head. As for how loud the helmet is pretty much if you want a helmet that has a lot of air flow it will be loud without a doubt and as for the refection of yourself in the visor, I have never notice myself in any of my visors ever. Lol
I agree, i where a Large with Bilt Helmets so I chose Large with icon. It was super tight! I got an Xl and it’s still tight. I really think Large size rider need XXL smh.
jacket infor?
And I thank you, sir. 💖