Why Was Dumbledore Teaching Defense Against The Dark Arts? | Harry Potter Theory
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- Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to try and answer one of the most common questions from Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald: Why is Dumbledore teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts?
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My biggest question is, when and why did Dumbledore start swapping his slick suits and fedoras (Crimes of Grindelwald), for sparkly robes?
I think it could be as simple as WW fashion variations. Sometimes they favor Muggle fashions and at other times classic styles.
At the same time he took up knitting.
Brandon Pearce same time he grew a 2foot long beard?
Maybe he changed his mind about clothing as his hair got grayer 😂
Or its like a "uniform" thing
"Who was your high school physics teacher?
"Albert Einstein, you?"
“That’s interesting. Mine was Google”
In biology I have Darwin
And I have Molière in french
(or Shakespeare in english)
“Very cool; mine is the internet.”
This is the exact scenario that J just described!
Also, really funny!!
Ah, the muggle equivalent
Maybe he is just filling in for the usual defense against the dark arts teacher like when Snape filled in for Lupin inHarry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
It explains it in the movie, when the ministry people show up interrupting his class "you will never teach defences against the dark arts again", I'd assume that went into effect immediately and he was replaced
That was my thinking, what if the usual teacher took some time off & he was only teaching defense till they came back
Maybe Merrythought went on a sabatical to get some practical experience. That could also be why McGonagall was there. She was maybe still fresh out of school or s few years out at most and they had her teach for one year while Merrythought went to get practical experience
@@bboops23 my dude McGonagall wasn’t even born yet
I like the the explanation that J comes up with
I just imagined Albus to be a substitute teacher. Like Snape was with lupin
yeah me too
THIS, easy enough to see that merrythought was ill or something so dumbledore covered classes for a week or month or whatever
Yeah
Jacques Hansen saaame
yeah
He was just feeling extra defensive
Yes
lol
gosh the pronoun game, are you talking about Dumbledore or J-carlin?
Why did I laugh?
Why Kremit?
7:59 - actually, Voldemort jinxed the job after he was turned down by Dumbledore during his second interview. Dippet didn't turn him down the first time, he just said that he was too young and that he'll give him the job in a few years. Voldemort waited a much longer time, nearly a decade (after making Horcruxes) no it was around 1955. Harry came to Hogwarts in 1991, so it's around 36 years.
You are correct.
Dumbledore took over as headmaster some time between 1965 and 1971 (revealed by Lupin, after saying he was bitten age 5 and Dumbledore became headmaster and visited him to offer him a place at Hogwarts aged 11), so it could have been just twenty DADA teachers that they'd gone through before Harry started at Hogwarts.
This was what I thought too!!!
4:37 That Hermione impression though!
Spot on right haha!
Omg 😂
IKR ! totally banged it J!
Couldn’t Dumbledore just have took the class one time because the original teacher was sick... like when Snape took over from Lupin for a day when he turned in a werewolf? I like this explanation more ... but still
well i could work that way unless when ministry directly orders dumbledore that he wouldn't be teaching defense against dark arts from then on as he refused to fight against grindelwald!
And when teaching his students one of the three things they learnt from last time was not learning for the first two, this suggests that they had more than one lesson of defence against the dark arts with Dumbledore
Isn't the way you fight a boggart like transfiguration?
@@benengle9621 no?
you fight with a spell .
the bogart changes form naturally to you're fear
the spell changes that emotion it bases it's form on from fear to comedy
@@meme0taker87 first off, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek. However, the boggart IS "transfigured" to the comedy from. But it's not the spell that destroyers it anyway, it's the laughter.
1:52 listen closely to what he says
"... which i think was just so fitting because Harry's transfiguration teacher is Prof. McGonnagal, who is head of Griffindor House" X2
I thought I was trippin
I thought I was just wrong
Probably 2 different takes, and there was just an editing mistake
I thought I accidentally rewinded 😅
Yeah I caught that. I think it was a mistake where they were overlaying the audio on the footage of McGonnagal then didn’t cut the recorded footage
Hearing you say that Quirrell taught muggle studies before dada suddenly makes his whole character make so much more sense
What about the place where Dumbledore was referred to as "head of the transfiguration department?" A department is more than one person. What if, before the war with Voldy, there were more professors for each class? Jo has said that there are fewer students now than historically. So he and Merrythought could have been concurrent. Or he could have picked up an extra class or two when the year was very full of students. No one can deny he is qualified.
Definitely a solid point. J and/or Ben have mentioned before that they've been confused by the whole "department" thing.
That would definitely make sense!
Exactly, like when there were two Divination teachers - Trelawney and Firenze
Celairiel Y E S !
I always imagine that there were more teachers but the only ones we heard of were related to Harry’s story. Like the astronomy teacher only got one line in the books
Did you know that Dumbledore could actually teach about Avada Kedavra in Transfiguration class because Avada Kedavra doesn't kill people, it turns them into corpses.
Maybe Merrythought was off sick or on vacation and Dumbledore was simply covering for him, substituting, since he was qualified.
I think he was taking over because he knew that Grindlewald was about to start a war and the students needed the best teacher possible. Even a student said he's the best professor we have. It reminds me of when Harry, Ron, and Hermoine started teaching it themselves because they knew it was necessary for them to be successful in the war against Voldemort.
Er, ..... SHE. It was Galatea Merrythought, a female. Just a bit of a nit-pick there.
Dumbledore is supposed to be this super wizard correct? He could literally substitute any class if it was required.
@@therabbits69 except divination xD Dumbledore in his entire time at Hogwarts never took a single divination class.
or maternity leave
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Does not compute.
In the time fantastic beasts takes place Voldemort is a baby. So when we see him teaching dada dumbledore hasn’t become headmaster yet and so hasn’t turned down the job to Voldemort. So when we see him maybe he did just teach defense before switching to transfiguration sometime before Tom goes to school
Voldemort didn't curse the job in 1945 did he? I was under the impression he returned years later to ask Dumbledore..
that was my thinking yea. Dumbledore wouldn't have been the one to refuse him when he was 18, as Dumbledore wasn't headmaster yet.
yeah exactly. He didnt curse the position until at least a decade later
Exactly. Dumbledore said since 'I' refused him, NOT since Armando Dippet refused him.
true
I think even first application was 10 years after Voldemort graduated as he worked at borgin and burkes first. It was another bunch of years later before Dumbledore even became headmaster so he couldn't have asked Dumbledore for position til somewhere between 65-71. So maybe only 26-30 years of curse need to even be addressed.
"Galatea Merrythought, who had been at Hogwarts for nearly 50 years"
The book never said that she taught defense of the dark arts the whole 50 years. Plenty of professors change positions.
Also, there are 7 levels of classes with extra curriculars. Dumbledore could have been teaching defense at the same time as Merrythought or been substituting for her.
Nice point.
ensabah1 also, the HP series have extremely small class sizes due to fallout from the wizarding war. Hogwarts usually has like 4?x as many students, so a "fresh-soph" teacher being different than the upper classes makes sense. You also want to learn from more than one person when tactical training is involved.
Or she took a year off. Honestly this film is so riddled with problems that dumble teaching DADA is certainly not even on the radar.
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Dumbledore could have been one of many professors to teach DADA. At that time there could have been a lot of students, as it was before any conflict that reduced the amount of wizard offspring. As most college/universities have more than one professor per subject as well as a Head of the Department, Dumbledore could have been teaching DADA with several others. As enrollment fell, so did the need for extra teachers.
I always thought that the conflict that reduced the amount of wizards happen back in the Middle Ages or something similar. If wizards were being killed off during 1900s then muggles would know
@@clementtsao5199 Voldy WAS the conflict!
It explains it in the movie, when the ministry people show up interrupting his class "you will never teach defences against the dark arts again", I'd assume that went into effect immediately and he was replaced
@@lexrue873 Wait, what? Voldy was the Muggle-Wizarding war?
@@ravenouself4181 I haven't got the slightest clue of what I meant by that.
Dumbledore was headmaster when lupin started school. It's was only because Dumbledore became headmaster that Lupin was able to go to Hogwarts.
Headmaster can't be a teacher?
WickedShadowChester well headmaster is pretty busy so I guess not
Being a busy headmaster and a teacher at the same time would be difficult unless one has a time turner!
Well actually I have a small theory that Dumbledore taught a subject while he was headmaster but in this case teaches Alchemy, its a subject that only exists if there is sufficient need for it and let's be honest Dumbledore is the perfect teacher for that as he has plenty of experience in it due to his work with Nicholas Flamel. Now as I say this subject is prob not that frequent of a class so Dumbledore would have more free time.
Time is a major factor for teaching staff at Howarts. I mean McGonagal (I know i spelt that wrong!) teaches 3 classes a week per year twice (if two houses share a lesson) equalling 30 classes er week for years 1-5 and 6 classes for years 6-7 (if all houses share a lesson) that equals 36 classes over a 5 lesson day (maybe 6 but thats pushing it) so clearly she is too busy to teach all her her classes but she is a head of house and deputy headmistress so clearly this line of busy headmasters and busy staff is no excuse lol. If she can do it Dumbledore could be teaching 3 subjects while still being headmaster lol. :)
My headmaster taught physics at my school so it’s entirely possible if a little unusual
Riddle didn't curse the position in 1946 because Dumbledore didn't refuse him; Dippet did. From my research, Riddle applied a second time in the 1960s. From then on, it was cursed.
Meaning more like 30 years of the curse before Harry arrives.
Yep. Was kinda surprised that J made that mistake...
yeah. dippet told riddle that he was too young or something to be a professor at hogwarts so he went off to work a borgins and burkes until he came back when dumbledore was headmaster and this time, he was more given into the dark side. I recon if riddle hadn't given in to the dark side, dumbledore would've given him the job and if he still refused, riddle wouldn't curse the position or at least would've had a lower chance of cursing it.
Thank you
Doesn't a curse stop after the person dies?
Not all Gryffindores are good
Peter Pettigrew *aka* Wormtail
CronoX GOD to be honest I never really believed he was a Gryffindor simply because he isn’t brave or courageous in the slightest he’s the biggest coward I’ve ever seen in all of the movies. When I eventually found out that he was Gryffindor it genuinely shocked me
PlagueDoctor981 YT if I’m not mistaken, Peter was a “hat stall” when he was being sorted. And also adding that the sorting hat does take your personal preference into account, it’s not too far-fetched to believe that Peter asked the hat for him to be placed into Gryffindor.
And not all slytherins and bad
The only house to never produce a dark wizard was Hufflepuff, so to think of only Peter is bull.
actually it has been stated by j.k rowling that the sorting hat does not put you into a house based on what qualities you value not what you posses.
There's no problem if Dumbledore was teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts cos in Crimes of Grindelwald when Travers put the cuffs on him, he was like "......And you will no longer teach D.A.D.A"
Maybe that's when he switched to Transfiguration
You know... once he was cleared of his crime he could have just gone back to teaching... because I mean that is kind of how it works...
Thank you! I came to the comments to see if anyone had said this!
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So true.
I don´t understand why is he dressed as a muggle at Hogwarts and not wearing wizard clothes, that´s weird
Doylist Reason; It's easier for Jude Law to act in such clothes.
Watsonian Reason #1: Dumbledore does have a fascination with muggle culture, though not nearly as much as Arthur Weasley. As he taught Muggle Studies, it is one of his fortes, along with his love of muggle sweets. It's not outside the realm of possibility for him to wear muggle clothes to better blend in with muggles.
Watsonian Reason #2: It was a flashback from Dumbledore's perspective, iirc (I could be wrong and that it was from Newt's)- either way, it's much easier to remember someone in their current getup than it is in their old getup years ago.
He wanted to show everyone that Lockhart wasn't the only hot DADA teacher
ok then 100% accurate
Lockhart doesn't count as a teacher. He barely counted as a competent person.
That makes perfect sense tbh
Big issue with your time line. The DADA job was jinxed after the second time Voldemort did not get the job, right before the first war, sometime in the 60’s. or 70’s. Not 1945. This was after his many years of travel. One of the selling points he made during his interview. My best guess is the interview occurred in 1970. Only 21 years until philosopher stone.
Also remember that Dumbledore became headmaster the same year Lupin started at Hogwarts. 1971 when Lily and James were 11.
Furthermore, Voldemort definitely couldn't have cursed the position by the time of the second movie considering it takes place in 1927, and he wasn't born until 1926. So he wouldn't have even known of Hogwarts or his magical abilities yet, let alone had a hatred for being turned down a position at the school. I chalk this issue up to JKR just rewriting some of the lore once again, but I wouldn't find it too crazy of an idea that he just subbed in as a teacher in certain lessons when he could or when his skills were possibly more suited to a certain lesson.
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I have always thought that especially in the latter years of Dippets tenure as headmaster, Dumbledor was already headmaster in all but title.
^this
When the lesson ended the minister told Dumbledore: Nah fam, no more DADA fer ya. Then I think then he just decided transfiguration was his.
Just one correction: Travers was not the Minister of Magic; he was Head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement in the Ministry of Magic.
2:00 somebody's got a time turner
So glad someone else noticed that...I had to go back and rewatch it thinking I misunderstood something.
yeah
I was about to ask who's in charge of editing over there! Lol, they get mistakes like this a lot more often than most UA-cam channels of their size, it's very surprising.
Lol i noticed that too
That title grammar is 10/10 would read again
ok then
ok then What?Did they change it?
I came here to comment that but they changed it after I got the notification.
What was it?
@@lolachant__8967 Why Was Dumbledore Teach Defense.......
Maybe Professor Merrythought was on vacation and Dumbledore was a substitute teacher
Dumbledore didn’t refuse him the post in 1945 that’s when dippet refused him the post it was around 1957 that he asked Dumbledore for the post meaning it had not been cursed for half a century but amazing video as always
I thought that was clear from Dumbledore's statement. Besides, even if it was from 1945, that would be irrelevant to swapping subjects in 1927.
I think he's off with this theory.
You are right that was a grammar error on my mistake but it still hasn’t been cursed for half a century
c0mpleX I looked it up it says that riddle applied to Dumbledore around 1957 but could not give an exact date as none exists but Tom riddle did not attend Hogwarts until 1938 so that means he graduated in 1945 when he applied for the role the first time then went to work at borgan and Burke’s to find the cup only later did he apply for the role a second time
Exactly though I think the curse happens around the 60s or 70s not the late 50s. During the 50s Voldy was still working a Borgin and Burkes. This is when he gets the Locket and Cup from Smith.
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Anyone thought that she was ill, and that dumbledore was a supplementary teacher?
Little problem with this theory : Minerva McGonagall. We know that her time line is already completely messed up, but it even creates another problem in this case. Even if Dumbledore only teached DADA for a couple of years he would have been teaching Transfiguration the other years. But if McGonagall was there she would have been teaching this subject meaning Dumbledore must have been teaching DADA the entire time.
If there's an entire Transfiguration Department, assuming there were more students and, therefore, teachers, this far in the past, then he could have been doubling as both a Transfiguration and DADA professor with Merrythought either teaching different class blocks or perhaps just traveling or sick, with Minerva as a (time traveling) TA or something.
@@MegaKhelditia Yeah exactly. In Harry's time theres only one teacher per subject but Harry's generation was smaller than others because of the war that preceded it. Hogwarts is clearly built for a population a lot larger than the one we see in there in the 90's. Its very reasonable to assume that the school body was many times larger in the 20's and thus required more teachers to accommodate more classes.
@@MerkhVision I agree with the fact that there are only around 280 students in Hogwarts in the 90s and that seems so little.... But the dorms haven't changed since Dumbledore's era as he accidentally turned his dorms curtains on fire in the 1890s (1895 if I'm not that mistaken)... So it should still be 5 students per dorm per house.
Raphael Mateus Martins it seems like there’d be a spell for that though, no?
Woah, I didn't get clickbaited, the title matches the video, I didn't get an ad, and you didn't promote your merch before the video started. It's almost like this is quality content or something. Wow 👍
JK Rowling:
Dumbledore: *does a backflip* ➡️ *lands*➡️ *looks at the camer* : I'm gay
JK Rowling : that's canon
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Just admit it... The only reason Dumbledor was teaching DADA was to give us the Lupin-style scene as a shortcut to form the Harry-Lupin bond between Dumbledore and Newt without taking the time to actually show it...
Also if the FB movies are prequels to the HP books (and not the HP movies) how is there a scene inspired by a HP movie? Like... The scene with the bogart actually canonically never happened like this.
It was so Newt's fear could be revealed without having to cast a random actress for Merrythought.
“Why was dumbledore teach defense against the dark arts”
Must have been Ben 😂
TRG that was the first thing I noticed when I clicked on the video!!😂😂
I noticed that, and was confused when i looked again.
On here it says why was dumbledore teachING defense agains the dark arts
addyc they edited the title after realizing that it was wrong
Lol true 😂
Comparing Dumbledore's position to that of a high school teacher is disingenuous.
It would be closer to compare him to the dean or president of a prestigious school.
You need to remember that there weren't magic schools all over the country.
Isn't Hogwarts the biggest in the world aswell?
Right. I don't know how many magic users there are exactly in the UK but I get the impression that it's not a lot, maybe 10 thousand at most. I'm sure some wizard parents are home schooling their kids but Dumbledore is basically responsible for overseeing the education of most of the UK's next generation of witches and wizards. It's an important job
Plus it’s one of the greatest standards of magical education in the world. That’s like looking at a professor at Oxford and thinking “is this professor one of the most respected minds in his/her field in the world?” Which seems... likely.
But it's still kind of crazy. Imagine if the headmaster of king's college or the like was widely seen as the most respected person in britain to the point where it was accepted that he could and even should be Prime Minister.
@@bertrandd3813 that is a fair point, all I can say to that is we must accept that culture of British wizards is different than that of British muggles. I have a feeling they hold magical ability and talent in much higher regard (and also keep in mind that Dumbledore did defeat Grindelwald too, I'm sure that also had play in the public's push for him to be minister)
Four Questions I Had While Watching / Reading Crimes of Grindelwald:
(1) why is dumbledore teaching defense instead of transfiguration?
(2) why are all of the houses in the same defense class?
(3) why is mcgonagall there?
(4) why is newt licking the ground?
Newt licking the ground seemed more real then McGonagall live before being born
I want to know: What happened to Dumbledore's beard? In the CoS flashback, he already has quite a long one.
You don't think he can grow that beard in 10 years time? I can grow my beard about an inch per month, so it's not that mysterious.
Menachem Salomon well it was about 15 years later
@@menachemsalomon Magic. He can grow a beard in probably about 30 seconds.
One additional though (and this ties into the McGonagle video as well) prior to both the Wizarding wars with GG and TMR the magical population of Great Britain was much larger. they may have had more teachers in each subject. It also explains why the castle has so many unused classrooms. Merrythought and Dumbledore might have taught at the same time. And I believe Dumbledore might have been the head of the Transfigurations department when McGonagle joined the staff. APWBD obviously had had a mastery of all types of magic.
Imagine if high school musical was in Hogwarts
I’d expect Voldemort to crash the party during a song number and curse everyone. Not very child friendly
May I remind you that 'A Very Potter Musical' is a thing?
And he also comes in singing
I have a feeling the answer (if ever answered by Rowling) would be something like Merrythought was sick (or a werewolf!), but probably just sick. And Dumbledore covered.
Honestly jk Rowling watches your vids for ideas
could have been a substitute teacher, like Snape was for Lupin.
But the person from the Ministry of Magic says Dumbledore you can no longer teach defence against the Dark Arts
Answer: Rowling changing random canon to fit in with her FB script. It's her new hobby, haven't you heard?
its not changing cannon the subject a teacher teaches can change
@@timmyg72 plus there's this magical new concept called Subbimg
Ikr?
I mean....I guess we can just skip the whole fact all along that SNAPE HIMSELF Taught how many different subjects throughout the whole series/!?!?
@@WonTonDJ Two.
"Snape's been after Quirrell's job for YEARS" I'm pretty sure that is said in the first movie at least....
The fix was easy.. they just had to change the name of the course and voldy's jinx would have gone down the basilisk hole :)
Maybe Dumbledore was substituting like snape for lupin
I think he was taking over because he knew that Grindlewald was about to start a war and the students needed the best teacher possible. Even a student said he's the best professor we have. It reminds me of when Harry, Ron, and Hermoine started teaching it themselves because they knew it was necessary for them to be successful in the war against Voldemort.
Couldn't Dumbledore simply be taking over because the DADA teacher was sick
exactly what I thought. Snape took over dada when Lupin was "ill".
Exactly what I thought. These people that keep slating the film because of this part of the film that is so easily explained.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Then there won't be a video to watch
I think he was taking over because he knew that Grindlewald was about to start a war and the students needed the best teacher possible. Even a student said he's the best professor we have. It reminds me of when Harry, Ron, and Hermoine started teaching it themselves because they knew it was necessary for them to be successful in the war against Voldemort.
I think he was taking over because he knew that Grindlewald was about to start a war and the students needed the best teacher possible. Even a student said he's the best professor we have. It reminds me of when Harry, Ron, and Hermine started teaching it themselves because they knew it was necessary for them to be successful in the war against Voldemort.
Never had any problem with it... just figured he took over a class, like snape did when lupin was "ill".
Or in the 6th book
according to the passage, unless you cut something, it never says he was teaching DaDa for the 50 years. just that he's been at Hogwarts for nearly 50 years, doesn't mean he was teaching DaDa for all that time
Agree. It seems pretty straightforward to me; don't really think it's an issue/question.
Did you finish the video before commenting? He points this out.
I just realised that Professor Merrythoughts name might be a reference to the patronus charm. One of the most important spells in Defence Against the Dark Arts, that require "merry thoughts" to cast.
Cos :
1. JK Rowling forgot her own canon
2. Changed the canon for more interesting visuals.
Sonny Liverod-Griffin I’m sick of these comments. No canon is changed
@@timmyg72 People are dumb... not surprising
@@games2507 Trump is president. Someone had to think that was a good idea...
@@timmyg72 the how was McGonagall teaching at Hogwarts before she was born
They did a video about it, but what does this comment have to do with anything.
I wish those films would be based on a book aswell... so many plotholes... kinda ruins it for me :(
Fantastic Beasts films ARE based on books. JK Rowling wrote them.
So don’t watching them
9Tailsfan Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find them is written as a textbook about magical creatures. The plot of the movies doesn’t come from that book.
You can only make a movie a certain length under 3 hours. You can fit an entire book the regulations. The books while are obviously more in depth there are plenty of things that don’t need to go in the movie.
Her books are full of plot holes as well. Even from this video taking about who the defense teacher was
J: "He's like, a bazillion years old!"
Me on the internet: "J.K Rowling said that he died at approximately 150 years!"
He died at 115
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But most importantly.
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The passage makes it clear that the curse on the DADA position was put on the job after Dumbledore refused to hire Voldemort, not Dippit in 1944.
Doesn’t that mean the cursed period is < your timeline in this video?
What year did DUMBLEDORE refuse Voldemort the job? It has to be after Dippit retired, and would be year zero for the curse on the DADA position.
Yeah you're actually spot on. Dumbledore says in HBP that Voldemort returns some 10 years later and again asks for the job, this time with Dumbledore as Headmaster instead of Dippet. That would make it closer to 1955 so that the cursed period is just 35 years.
imagine if dumbledore accepted Voldemort's application: "Professor Voldemort"
Nah.... Prof Riddle. The Riddler maybe
This might sound totally dumb but the other day I was ranting about how mcgonagalls age in crimes of Grindelwald makes no sense. And then my sister said cats have nine life’s and then I was just like 😱😱. But idk this probably doesn’t work
My fave theory is that she used her own time turner from her time at the Ministry in the 1950s to go back in time and help Dumbledore with the clusterduck surrounding Grindelwald. Dumbledore is totes manipulative enough to send one of his best friends and brightest students back in time to -manipulate- help younger him. Then she goes back to the 1950s before she attends school in the 30s and 40s, or maybe she just hides from her past self very well.
Sine time turner canon is already broken.
Well, it's similar to the Merrythought line. It's only a problem if you assume that she was at Hogwarts for 39 consecutive years. That's reasonable but for every teacher I know who spent decades at one school (a few, often fairly McGonagall-esque) I can also think of teachers who moved around... sometimes even coming back to a school after some time away.
This is the starting point of an article I found when checking the 39 years figure... I'm reading it now: www.hypable.com/when-was-mcgonagall-born-age/
Harry East yeah but she wasn’t even alive then. And rember she was at hogwarts in leta lastranges flash back so she would of been there even before the events of crimes of grinervald
@@tatianamae3724 This is the problem with assuming Pottermore is canon.
She was born in 1935. She started working at Hogwarts in 1956. Newt was far older than her.
Pretty sure Voldemort placed the jinx after the second meeting with Dumbledore.
1st meeting with dumbledore, 2nd in application
Faith Catt Right, lol. It was the second meeting though, and was with Dumbledore... that was totally intentional. :P
Some people have covered it, with Riddle being 18 in 1945. He killed his parents in 1944 if you re-read the first chapter of Goblet of Fire.
Considering I'm Homeschooled so my mother is my principle I could see her as the most respected person alive.
I mean, it changes a bit when you're the principal of the only high school in your country, and one of eleven in the world, and college doesn't exist. It's a pretty influential position.
Well if my school principal was Mr. Rogers I would be so happy.
I always love typos in your guys’ titles 😂. Pretty sure 95% of them are intentional.
Maybe MT was taking a sabbatical (pun intended) and he was filling in for the year
Exactly what I thought. That could also explain the _nearly_ part of Dumbledore's answer to Harry. If it was fifty calendar years since he started but he took a year or two off, he'd have taught there for nearly 50 years.
Another possibility is that some of the teachers could have swapped subjects occasionally, with the headmaster's approval, to keep their skills sharp and prevent boredom.
WOW!!! You really made sense on this DA facts. Thank you.
Thank you for addressing this. I have been wondering this for weeks and weeks!
Why Was Title Not English?
I am glad I am not the only one wondering what happened there ...
If your phone is set to a certain language, and there are subtitles in that language, the title is shown in said language :)
Vera it’s in English, it’s just not grammatically correct
Yeah, titles show up in Dutch for me too sometimes. It can be a bit confusing
Um, to everyone who's responded to this comment, I believe The Obvious was asking about the grammar mistake in the title of the video from earlier before it was corrected since, according to most of the comments it say 'why was Dumbledore teach defense against the dark arts'. See the problem was the use of the word 'Teach' rather then 'teaching' as it saids now.
Dumbledore could teach any clas my man... he’s been taught in all classes
I’ve been thinking about this for so long! Always love your guy’s theories!
This makes sense because by the time The Mauraders got to Hogwarts, Minerva McGonagall was their Transfiguration professor.
Everyone saying that oh he could’ve just been substituting but when they came to his office it was the fence against the dark arts office when the ministry comes in the movie
Unicorn Shadowlady *Defense Against the Dark Arks. Or DADA
That hurt me 1:52-2:00 doubles 2:00-2:08 Editing error of the year, and we're 8 days in.
I turned my head as it repeated so I skipped back to see what I missed/why it repeats so I got it 4 times in a row then missed nost of the video looking in the comments to see if something was mentioned about the deja vu moment so I now have to rewind & actually watch the video. 🤷♀️
Was it a coincidence that Lupin found a boggart in the same closet that dumbledore found one in?
Perhaps each Boggart leaves a small sign in the cabinet inviting the next one in and it has become a Boggart holiday retreat.
Couldn’t the actual teacher have just been sick that day?
RoJo UK ye true
I swear Jay knows the Harry Potter universe better than JK Rowling
Writers can get fatigue, it happens sadly
I think everyone knows the HP universe better than Rowling
I definitely do
Nope, he makes mistakes sometimes, he confuses obscuri with obscurials and like that
@@martavdz4972, and yet he still makes less than 1/100 of the mistakes Rowling makes...
Hey brother! Early :) Dumbledore...I want a sign on my door saying Dumble-door.
You could also have griffin - _door_ (I Don't know what house you're in)
Or just Slyther-in, no need to knock!
Ravenclaw could be Raven-Clock lol
Or a Raven-Clothes sign on a closet
I’ve always thought that this rule meant that a professor could only teach D.A.D.A. for one CONSECUTIVE year but a professor could teach then leave for a few years then come back and teach again
But they all either die or become cursed
Maybe there's two DADA teachers I have two maths teachers
Or more. In every subject. Otherwise Hogwarts teachers wouldn't have time to sleep.
@@tappajaav True. Seven grades, two classes(at least, assuming all students attend the same classes, which is not true), effectively (two houses having classes together), in each grade, makes for 14 classes simultaneously(the lowest possible figure). Even with the multitude of classes offered at Hogwarts: Potions, DADA, Transfiguration, Charms, Music (they have a choir, so they must have a music teacher), Arithmancy, Runes, Astronomy, Care for Magical Creatures (I don't remember the class' name in English), Clairvoyance, Herbology, HoM, Flying, Muggle studies, etc. This should be too much for any one teacher to fulfill. In one week, assuming only the core subjects for 1-5 year, a potions teacher would have to teach 10 separate classes at least, just to give the students one class a week, and that is assuming the jigsaw of 3-5th year additional classes adds up so that no grade needs to split its core classes into several different classes to fit the schedule. Ever looked into the process of organizing classes, and you'll know this is wishful thinking. That means that a potions teacher, or any other core class teacher really, needs to teach 2 classes every day, and some lessons are double to fit the government required quota of hours spent on each class for each student. Assuming that every grade has one double lesson AND one single lesson for the core classes at least, means that a single teacher would have to teach 30 lessons each week, just to cover the ideal number of classes for 1-5th year only. Assuming three and a half periods a day, two lessons each (just cuz that was the average at my school), we get a total of 7 lessons a day, for a week total of 35 lessons, meaning, assuming teachers' days begin and end at similar times to the students', they would have only 5 lessons of free time, not counting breaks that are also required by law, to plan for their 20 different classes taught in the week, and correcting tests and other required paperwork. If we assume there are enough students in years 6 and 7 to also make up two classes each, and each of those needs 3 lessons a week, we get negative 7 lessons for a single teacher to use for planning and other work in a week. There MUST be more than one teacher in the core classes. At all times.
Excellent observation however your message needs formating BADLY.
@@tappajaav I know. I just rant out all of my musings. It's April, have some love for a poor WriMo. My job this month is just to write everything, and hoping it can make sense afterwards.
If you're unsure then just press enter after every sentence. That would improve readibility of your text by massive margin.
I like to think that the boggart thing was just a coincidence to show the similar brilliantness in Lupin and Dumbledore, as teachers
With Dumbledore's mindset when he was attending Hogwarts I'm surprised that he wasn't a Slytherin. He had every trait that Slytherin's covet. Would make for a cool research/Theory video.
Wait, Voldemort didn’t attend Hogworts until 1938, and Newt attended way before that.
think J's saying that Dumbledore had experience of being a substitute DADA teacher before Voldemort cursed the position
media busy bee oh, thanks for clarifying
@@alexiswelsh5821 I had to listen a few times to work out what was meant to
Ron, Ron! Ron Weasley! DUMBLEDORE
Snape, snape, severus snape
Heeer-mione.
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*NUTS*
Voldemort Voldemort
Volde volde Voldemort
This makes perfect sense to me. The principal of my elementary school taught French a couple of years while still holding the position of principal because they couldn't find a new French teacher.
How about the teacher being indisposed and Dumbledore covering for him like Snape did for Lupin.
Is this a new feature where, if you’re early to the video you get to see the various typos in the titles? if it is, very clever. if not, less clever :)
also, what happened with the editing at 1:53? I’m just assuming it was unintentional x
Nah he just transfigured himself into the dark arts teacher
Early
I've always wondered why when the trailer came out
Yup
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Same!!
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There’s an even simpler explanation than that:
Rowling doesn’t understand what “continuity” means.
Yeah but she was almost perfect with continuity before. There were a handful of mistakes like james coming out before lilly when voldemorts and harrys wand connected but it's well known dumbledore used to teach transfiguration, i can't see it being a mistake when so many potterheads play in the movies someone would've said something.
I mean....I guess we can just skip the whole fact all along that SNAPE HIMSELF Taught how many different subjects throughout the whole series/!?!?
Potions, then DADA one day for Lupin, then more Potions, then DADA for a year, and then became Headmaster. Right? Did I miss something?
Leo Velli yeah exactly only 2 subjects plus headmaster
ha theres a mistake
1:51
I Think Just Because Dumbledore Taught Lupin The Boggert Lesson,Doesn’t Make Lupin Any Less of a Badass
AHHH I love you guys!!!! also... (was there an audio glitch or something of the like with anyone else between about 1:50 to 2:10 because I could be going crazy but I really don't know)
Ur going crazy
Does the jinx really originate from 1945? Dumbledore is the one to reject Voldemort which results in the jinx. As Dumbledore was not yet headmaster at that point, the jinx would have occurred far later.
Right he applied right after graduating, but Dippet, the headmaster at the time, felt he was too young. Then he reapplied when Dumbledore was headmaster. This was over a decade later. Dumbledore refused to because he felt Voldermort was using this position to create an army. This is when the curse was placed. I could be wrong though. I'm just going by what I remember.
Tyler White same here...but knew based on the quote used in the video the curse originates with the second application.
I always thought that lupin was surprised to find the bogit, because Dumbledore put it in the staff room. As it was in the same wardrobe. Similar to the mirror in the first book. Dumbledore made sure lupin would find it and use it in his class to then lead him to teach Harry the protronise spell
So why didn't Dumbledore teach it instead of allowing Fudge to appoint Umbridge?
because Fudge is over his head.
@@weathermangohanssj4 If I remember correctly, Fudge used a law that said if Hogwarts was unable to find a teacher, that the Ministry would appoint one for them. Why would Dumbledore not just teach it himself, especially if he'd done that before?
Dumbledore had to go collect horcruxes
Headmaster also have stuff to do. He couldn't do both
Firstly regardless of when curse came about after 2nd interview of Tom, they would perhaps switch around, maybe every few years , like someone else said, to keep up on skills, prevent boredom, to have a new mix of classes to teachers for kids choosing options etc, however once jinx was set and no one could be kept for more than a year, they cycled round the staff and no one did a full year...maybe the ministry was clocking onto this just as Harry was attending which meant that dumbledore had to hire someone new, so he hired 'back' quirrel hoping that this would not go against the jinx... After a few years of new teacher after new teacher, Fudge took a 'loose' interpretation of the rule (as he wanted inside Hogwarts and to control dumbledore) that as Hogwarts had continually failed to hire and keep a new defence teacher he was able to push Unbridgeable in