Henry Rollins & Pantera Members On Kurt Cobain (From April 1994)
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2020
- In this video i talk about the comments Henry Rollins, Phil Anselmo and Vinnie Paul made and the tributes they gave to Kurt Cobain as a frontman and singer. I comment on the pressures Cobain felt and ultimately the talent he had that was sadly lost.
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Phil has such a balance between hardcore and a caring realist
*r@cist
@@backuprecords4334 Yeah Probaly
@@BCMoney1995 Definitely. Known n@zi.
@@backuprecords4334you gonna cry about it?
@@backuprecords4334known loudmouth. i wouldnt call him a nazi.
Kurt wanted to be a rockstar. His diaries are filled with passages about wanting to become rich and famous. The problem with Kurt wasn't that he wanted to escape fame. He thought fame would make him feel normal, and it didn't.
Correct. I hate that so many people still repeat that whole he didn't want to be famous shit.
So uncanny that his life was parallel and similar to the protagonist in the book “Perfume” by Patrick Süskind which was one of his favorite books. He also had a song called “scentless apprentice” inspired by the book.
Well really, another thing is that he thought he'd just be a rockstar, but he didn't see the shitty business side of it, you know, like how he hated nevermind being so produced, geffen refused to let Nirvana pursue their music outlets on in utero opting for it to be all overproduced like nevermind was, just a whole slu of shit, Kurt couldn't stand the media and the constant intrusion on his life, he didn't know that came with being famous and rich, and it took a toll on him, including all the inner family struggles, heroin, the baby, all the bullshit Kurt and Courtney dealt with, and Kurt knew it would end their suffering if he ended his own, and he did, and he was right, now Courtney lives like, out in the UK, and Francis is wherever doing her own thing, Kurt is In peace, forever 27 years old, as everyone else grew older, and wiser with age, and Kurt became the distant past, as unfortunate as it is
@@Jdoom13 yeah, he wanted the rockstar image, just not all the intrusive annoying media and record company bullshit that came with it
Careful what you wish for.
Lost a parent to suicide, appreciate Anselmo's take here.
sorry for ur loss
Sorry to hear that, hope you’re staying strong.
Im really sorry to hear that. I hope you have found peace or you are at least on your way to finding peace. I wish you nothing but the best.
I'm so sorry, sweetie♡ Depression is a serious illness. Wish i could give you a big hug, ease your pain. Peace & love to you.
Man....... Im so sorry sweetheart ❤️
Stay strong x
Henry and Phil would have been a good fight if it ever happened lol
I told the same thing to a friend once while we were talking about potential famous good fights lol. That was my choice. He said Anselmo would win cuz he's crazy, and I told him that Idk that Rollins too and that he's always pissed.
I think Phil would have way too much respect for Henry to fight him. I'd say Henry was Phils primary influence.
Anselmo really likes to box.......rollins is just the image haha
Rollins would of got his ass kicked
Here comes the endless thread of trolls and fanboy rhetoric that see art and everything else as a sport, and that swear that everything they like is best in every sense and that are unaware of how absurd that is... Have fun with that.
Anselmo and Vince. Warming to see.
Sure is bro
Why is that warming to see in 1994?
Its 2020. Vince has passed away. I'm sure you know of the discord between them both. It never got fixed either. So yeah, reminds of the good old days.
@@trashedbodomguy because he blamed Phil for Dimes getting shot
@@odessawadford3663 phil said many things to the press
I thought the narrator was actually henry.
I did too initially for some reason.
No doubt
It totally makes sense that Rollins would talk about himself like that in third person tho 😅
Sounds like Lars Ulrich
Phil Anselmo: the classic voice of compassion and empathy, everybody.
Huh? I thought he was REALLY empathetic with what he said there 🤔
and Casualy wearing Nazi Symbols
@@revan2883 when you realize 2 different groups can use the same symbol
GUUUIOTE POWWAAA! 🤚
@@billrobertjoe If you mean Hindus, theirs was reversed.
Ok, the narrator sounds eerily similar to 1994 Henry Rollins. I thought it was Rollins narrating for a sec.
He sounds like Ty Notts when he's not High
Ye wtf
Tought he had created a chanel bruh
That would be awesome thou
I think he sounds like danial stern from his narrorator days on the wonder years
No
I thought it was Rollins!
rip kurt rip vinnie and DIME
Kurt was a very sensitive guy. I think it's a huge part of his artistry and charisma. I think Rollins was on point, media exposition is brutal. Sum that with drug addiction, pressure from the record label and a disruptive relationship with Courtney Love, voilà, you're on the edge of suicide. He could have been saved, but he would need a LOT of support and just couldn't be left alone. I'm still sad from his passing. He deserved to be happy.
And alcohol
Alcohol n drugs is all needed to destroy anybody
I red that he was in constant pain because of him playing the wrong kind of guitars for years (he was left handed). It somehow messed with his spine but he was treated wrongly because that pain felt like stomach ache, so he went to the wrong doctors. And that contributed to his drug addiction.
And see thats why I have no trouble accepting that he committed suicide. Dont get me wrong, its sad and disturbing but its not unbelievable.
@@Puschit1 no he had a legit stomach condition that they had trouble treating for a long time. But he had even stated in interviews before he died that they had it under control and he felt great. Being a left handed guitarist had nothing to do with it. You can take a standard right handed guitar turn it upside down and restring it top to bottom and it's the same....ask Jimi Hendrix.....
I’ll never for get being 16 and seeing this on the news..the only rockstar apart from Cornell where I remember exactly where I was at that moment and that awful sinking feeling in my gut..absolute heartbreaking for a lot of fans..all my friends at school the next day were devastated..someone wrote RIP Kurt on their shoes in my history class ..my best friend was inconsolable..others were fighting back tears. I’d never experienced anything like it and to date I haven’t again. Bloody awful loss. RIP.
As for Pantera... Far Beyond driven when it was released on March 22, 1994, Far Beyond Driven became nothing short of a validation for headbangers. It roared to No. 1 on the Billboard 200(yes for all music out at the time) and earned a gold certification for 500,000 units sold in the U.S. within two months of its release.
Exactly!!!!...I remember well buying far beyond driven then I played that album ridiculously over & over for week's straight just couldn't get enough of it as it was a masterful gem with all the technicalities in each song with how tight the members were as a unit alongside there incredible musicianship made PanterA become as popular & successful touring act as they became a major driving force til a bit past 96 when Phillip began having his "serious personal issues" start surfacing ultimately affecting his performances on stage, the strained relationship with band mates, the growing distancing of himself from that band, unfortunately was the beginning of the end for this great band.
They flew the flag for metal in the 90's back when Grunge and Alt Rock dominated the airways.
I was floored. At this time I was a huge fan of Nirvana. I still am.
I was a huge fan of grunge in general at the time but do I remember saying to myself when I heard he tried to off himself in rehab that he wouldn't stop and prepared for the inevitable news. You could tell his tank was just about empty
@@jetsmancan or Courtney spiked his drink in rome-failed, then succeeded in april
@@organizedmessoffical3838 you realize courtney is the one who called medical personnel that saved his life .. I'd think if she wanted to off him she wouldnt do that. He was a depressed drug addict with tons of weight on his shoulders .. the conspiracies just make you look foolish
@@organizedmessoffical3838 No...
Such a talent. So missed. RIP Kurt. I'll never forget that day you left.
I cried for days.
I hate hearing the myth that he never wanted to be famous. Yeah, that's the image he tried to put forward, but he did a lot to get himself there. Maybe once he realized what it meant he regretted it? But do people really think things would've turned out any better for him if he weren't famous? Have you ever known a young 20 something addicted to smack? How's that usually end?
Your 100% correct! Everything he did when he was young was ABOUT getting signed to a label and getting famous...its even written in his journals. I think he just got more than he ever bargained for when it actually happened for them, and the other factors in his life led him down a dark path. That much is true whether one questions how he passed away or not.
@@Colosus23 There's Pixies level famous and then there's John Lennon level famous. I think the first was more what he was aspiring to.
Thank you yes he did wanna be famous he would call MTV and complain that his videos weren’t being shown enough.
He wanted too be know but it blew up big difference he didn't like the spot light he was shy and lonely sure making a few thousands but when ur worth hundreds of millions in a few days it's insane it's something he did not plan too happen
I think Kurt actually did want to become a successful musican. That was his dream and he put all of his efforts into music only. His close friends and family said he was quite lazy as a person and lacked any motivation to get a regular 9 to 5 job, I believe his mom kicked him out of the house for that reason. So I do believe he wanted to become a famous musician. I just don't think he liked the reality of being a celebrity. He seemed like a down to earth humble guy. He was too real for fake Hollywood, not to mention he hooked up with Courtney Love. He was too genuine and innocent for satanic Hollywood in my opinion. R.I.P to the Legend Kurt Cobain😚✊
Old school. I lost my virginity literally moments before the mtv news announcements by Kurt loader that Cobain was dead. We were like “is this real?”
Fucking with MTV on; man, those days are over.
How can you loose your virginity unliterally?
@@ilfbforever7292
He didn't say "literally lost my virginity" he said "literally MOMENTS before" there is quite a big difference between the two, gotta work on your reading comprehension skills.
@@madcapglass1454 Ah ok,
That would be my english ( reading) skills you mean I gotta work on. , I had english just for 3 yrs back then in school
So, defending himher right away so nice, you are the 2nd party on that incident I assume? 😚
The fu-
Kurt literally said that he'd rather return to playing shows to 20 people.
Anselmo and Vince are like Jay and Silent Bob
Rollins Band & Pantera should have done a tour together back in 1994
I always thought same
Two totally different crowds.
The sad part is that Vinnie and Phil were so close!!!! Drugs ruin everyone, and that’s what happened to Phil!!! Don’t hate on him, just thank god he’s still here!!!
I respectfully disagree don't get me wrong I don't do drugs, (aside from weed), But clearly in fact most of our best music ever came from musicians on drugs ....
Drugs kill a lot of people but they don't kill everyone so many musicians made it through.....
Soory but evtl. Dome Situation bring you too drugs. Drugs destroy nothing, people change and destroy.
Phil claims he got hooked on heroin because of its pain reducing properties...especially when he started having significant back problems
You cannot just go and blame drugs for this. Pantera was one of the BIGGEST live bands of the 90s. They toured relentlessly all around the world for a decade. They were also exposed to most of the same shit that drove Kurt to kill himself. I mean you just heard don't judge the guy, you don't know what he went through, and still blame drugs as the only reason for Pantera's demise.
@@hectorjcm800 no that’s not what I’m saying at all. Drugs were the reason dime was killed cuz if Phil wasn’t high he wouldn’t have said to hurt dime. Vin would still be here too if he had been healthier!!!!
Beautiful speeches from both makes me tear up and proud at the same time especially with Phil and Vinnie being that Pantera is my favorite band of all time ♥️, also Support your brother ya know I LOVE IT!!!!
Every new Nirvana fan that starts wondering about Kurt’s death should listen to what Rollins and Anselmo said here. So thank you guys from far long Chile 🇨🇱 for such heartfelt and empathetic words 24 years later 🙏🏻
Lotta compassion from both musicians here. And people think people in heavy music don't have sensitivity and understanding. They respect that people go through different things.
Philip H. Anselmo from Pantera speeks the truth about the success not just Pantera, but Nirvana the sucess of Nirvana's multi platinum Nevermind album and the next record did good, but it was not like Nevermind and Kurt had seek to a depression and took his own life leaving behind his widow Courtney & his daughter. Their music, & their legacy will always live on forever.
that clip at the end where Kurt responds "no". Chefs Kiss
Thanks for another interesting video
For someone who didn't want to be famous Cobain put a lot of effort into becoming so. It didn't just happen. He had a drive, and tried his hardest to become a well known musician. I think it just didn't end up being like he imagined.
Yeah, I’ve heard throughout several documentaries and people who knew him said that he actually wanted to be a famous musician, a so-called “rock star”.
Well, he became one, it just didn’t end up being what he was expecting, I suppose.
@@jarodvalverde I think he would have been fine had he avoided heroin. That was the real downfall.
@@stinkywizzleteats420 well, that’s actually true, but I honestly believe he would’ve been waaay better if he didn’t meet Courtney Love.
I believe Kurt had a death wish. Ian Curtis was similar.
Well know musician od Not beeung a mainstream bitch. Now He is known and not a bitch. He dont make sellout and and and
Kurt you are not forgotten 🎸😋
We, I miss you. Wish you were still around..... What the future could have been.
Sadly Krist was the one who suffered the most hell..... They we're buddies long before Nirvana..... Krist hang in there as you have been doing all these years.
He always said it was too much going from a zero too a legend over night he didn't know what too do hell imagine being 19 or so and then just being worth millions coming from living under a bridge or couch surfing a few days back i couldn't imagine he was a soft sensitive man and thats what we fans love he was grunge didnt didn't give a shit but cared so much. He's the reason i got into music bass and drums I heard dumb at like 10 or 11 and it changed me forever i wish i seen him once being only 3 when he died ill never get too see a real grunge show i would like too thank him you brought music into my heart seeing how raw it can be.
Respect to Phil said it best
Hey mr Dudeman! I love your content! What font did you use for the phrase "Nirvana changed everything"?
Thank you!
Can you imagine kurt being here while twitter, ig and facebook dominate us all?
Nope
He would probably hate social media...for good reason😋
I feel like he would've been like a nicer, smarter Fantano type. Dude had excellent music taste and I'm sure would've loved to just share that with everyone
@@nasirsharaf6299 I like Kurt and I like fantano but I don’t thing he would be like Fantano at all
He'd be looking for the nearest shotgun
Funny asking Henry Rollins his thoughts on Kobain, because Black Flag was one of Kobain's influences.
Cobain even
What about all the discrepancies about his death being the shot gun in wrong position and the discharched cart on the wrong side of the body and two different hand writings on the death note.
Kurt was murdered. Handwriting template found in Courtney loves bag couple days after kurts death, shotgun shell found opposite side of action (to hurts left not the right), the fact that he has copious amounts of heroin in his system (enough to kill an elephant), caps put on needles after used and packed away (why would you do that when your killing yourself, and also how he manage to do all that place his favourite objects around him and boot up?), the fact there was a pre nuptial agreement and Courtney wouldn't have got anything if he divorced her, the fact Courtney was rumoured to have been having an affair, and if that's not enough listen to what there nanny said about the nature of there conversations week's before his death. Also kurts credit cards were being used the same day Seattle police said he would have most likely died. Then automatically stop being used hours before the announcement of his death on media. Lots to think about evidence wise
Yet it wasn't enough to charge anyone. It's certainly enough to sell some books and documentaries and create conspiracy theories.
God give it a rest people
Kurt was a left using a righty shotgun, so that fact has already been debunked, other than that I respectfully disagree, I side with the forensic evidince
Watching his last interviews
.. No way he wanted to die. He was only moments away from his contract ending he would be free...
@@ecosuite2014 A very good friend of mine called to tell me about her new job and how great things were going for her. She had planned to visit the day she ended her life. I think sometimes people choose to do it when things are going very well and they're feeling better because they don't want to feel bad again. It's a theory. Seems to coincide with my friends choice.
I remember arriving at school that day and there were kids grouping together and some were crying, the area i lived in couldnt receive mtv so i was completely clueless about what had happened, as the regular news didnt pick up on it.
It was really weird and already back then at 14 years old I kinda sensed this point in time was somehow the end of an era.
Well said by all parties.✌️🌹
I remember watching this😞
That’s not true. Kurt wanted to be on mtv and wanted his music to reach as many ppl as possible. He told his mother he’d be on mtv one day. He didn’t realize all the pressure and everything that came
with it as well as his personal life. That was the problem.
Yeah or he didn't kill himself and his trashy ass girlfriend did......there is more evidence leaning towards her being a killer than Kurt being a suicide victim.
@ Anth 007 I think you’re right. I’ve heard it said several times that when Nirvana were meeting with the DGC record executives Kurt sat back and didn’t say a word and pretty much let Kris do all the talking and then he suddenly piped up and said, “we want to be the biggest fucking band in the world!” I don’t think he had any idea what kind of pressure the fame would bring. It’s just another example of the many contradictions in Kurts life. He’s kind of an enigma and is fascinating to me.
@@justin1978 he is but even Kris has eluded to him not killing himself. And with the evidence against Courtney I believe he was going to drop her and she didn't like that. She was an out of control trashy human too. Obviously it's all just talk but I believe it. Kurt may have been a certain way to fans but in his mind he was in control. I've watched every possible documentary on him and I still feel he was killed.
@@jvon3885 nobody who was close to Kurt or knew him personally believed that Courtney tried to kill him. The biggest source is the documentary soaked in bleach and it is pure trash. The first time I saw it, I admit it had me questioning, but at some point in life, ‘most’ everybody grows up and you learn to recognize what is genuine and can smell bullshit a mile a way. Soaked in bleach is covered in bull shit. I can see right through it. If you do enough research from credible sources and stop reading the garbage on the Internet, you too will see it for what it is. Kurt killed himself. Accept it.
@@justin1978 lol that's what Courtney would say to me if she was you and trying to deflect her selfishness. Wake up man this was before the internet my guy. I don't care what you believe and no im not going to sit here and just accept that narrative. It was the perfect murder end of debate.
I love Henry. He's a great guy, very intelligent.
I agree with the misfits guy
I so miss MTV News. Loved they chose Ellefson Bass riff to use for News. Because even TODAY PEACE SELLS BUT WHOS BUYING 🤘🎸
?
They used the opening to stone temple pilots meat plow from purple. I honestly don't remember any bass riffs on MTv news.
@@Trentstone121 then you must not be old enough. Here is a History lesson then. In 2006, VH1 ranked "Peace Sells" at No. 11 on its list of the "40 Greatest Metal Songs" of all time. The opening bassline was also used as the theme for MTV News, but Mustaine has repeatedly claimed he never received any royalties for MTV's usage of the song.
@@BATMAN7666 I'm thinking of the intro music. The weird swishing sound.
I still don't remember any bass lines used in the show, I'm a 90's kid so maybe this predates what I'd remember. Either way, that's really interesting! Thanks for the explanation!
@@Trentstone121 you are welcome .Just sorry I can't find a video to show you but all I get swising version as well. It was 80's they did this and part of 90s. I was lucky to be there when MTV launched in 81. I was only 6 but still remember staying up to watch. Now eh no more music videos just alot of reality TV. But an 80s icon dies I get back what I use to remember for just one day.
@@BATMAN7666 it went something like "Mtv News. You hear it(pause for the bass line)First!"
If irc?
My 14th birthday, April 7th, 1994. I remember being devastated hearing about his death.
I remember a lot of people at the time would say "well he shouldn't have become a rock star if he doesn't want to be famous"
The error with that thinking is in assuming people only get famous if they want to. When you have what Kurt had, you get thrust into it, and it happens so fast i don't think you can stop it. Kurt was plugged in to the collective consciousness, or subconsciousness I should say. I was 14 yrs old when I heard Nivana for the first time. It was just before SLTS was released as a single. It was mindblowing. The 80's scene had run its course and everything had become one big cliche, a parody of itself. It was like we were waiting for our era, we were waiting for someone to come along and set the stage for our teenage years, ou time, and Kurt came along and everything changed.
KC DID want fame;/recognition. He just failed to comprehend what it would entail and how he would (or wouldn't) cope with it.
Yo Dudeman you should make a video about the the cigarette Burn Kurt self inflicted himsel when shooting the Heart Shaped Box video
What about it? Just the fact he burnt his skin?
@@MsCristyful yeah but the reason why he done it was totally Kurt's sense of humour, from what I've heard Courtney was telling him that he had to look a certain way cos it was for the HSB vid and he got annoyed and burnt his head. If u watch close his hair hardly moves on close ups, I think they pasted it to his head lol
@@paulmcduff1930 I get what you mean but... pasted his hair on??? Cmon what am I an idiot?
@@MsCristyful I'm sorry that's just what I have heard or read , I know they never ran out and bought paste but what they did was try to cover the burn with his hair , probably used gel or cream.
@@paulmcduff1930 tons of hairspray you can see in the video one chunk of hair stays fairly centred on his forehead
Henry Rollins was on point with both of his takes. Although I do think that Kurt had the desire to become famous, the pressures of being famous can get to you. Sure he was rich and famous. But like all celebrity it’s not all that it’s cracked up to be.
Phil is so on point regarding the judgmental comments from people. You don’t know the pressure the kinds of pressure they’re under.
It’s maddening that there is so little regard for people like Kurt, even in death.
If I had a magic lamp but was only granted one wish it wouldn’t be money or personal happiness it would be to bring back Kurt Cobain....we miss you Kurt!
miss those days a lot.
Kurt would have loved to step back and make his odd but fascinating paintings and sculptures, which probably would have ended up in museums. Regardless, it would have been a lucrative second career if he desired. I would have love to see a collaboration between Cobain and Johnny Cash. Who knows?
These two or three people that spoke on this very humble intelligent people love all of their pants
Kurt got exactly what he wanted, it was no accident that he ended up a pop star, it was his dream
Well I think wanting to a a famous musician was his dream. He was beyond that, Kurt was an icon up there with the Beatles, that is a whole different level of “star” and pressure that not many want and or can understand.
Great take on both Kurt by Phil and Henry. Do you guys think that Phil was struggling with his heroin addiction by this point?? I know it got reaaaaally bad for him in the 90s and early 00s with dope. He has a great interview with in a college were he talks in detailed about his addcition (sounded a lot like mine back then).
Phil didn't pick up the needle till trendkill
This period is Painkillers,Booze and weed. Didnt get dark till he went back to New Orleans. 👌
@@floridianthrasher5426 right after far beyond driven was released*
I was 20 yrs old and that was a big one
Well said by Rollins
Wish Pantera never split - We may still have Dimebag
Pantera and nirvana had the same lead singer problem - heroin. It destroyed both bands
And Vinnie
@@ayearandahalf4112 Yeah, but both bands best music was written and recorded while high as shit on heroine. I do wish they would just stick with weed instead of going to excess, but really a touring band spends most of their time on the bus or at pre and post show parties. Boredom, money and access is a dangerous combination for sure.
I have been a massive fan and studied Kurt my entire life just about. One thing people seem to get wrong is that Kurt hated fame or shied away from it. Kurt sought fame from the very beginning. From 1987 to 1993 Kurt was infatuated with being famous and you can look to the man himself for the evidence. The moments that seem to corroborate this anti-fame mentality is just Kurt's instability, moodiness or the fact that he was just as conflicted as all of us. Now, the realities of the fame that he did capture was most definitely more than he could have imagined and ultimately handle. The only thing that rivals the shock of his death is the fact that he planned out his entire life (including many seemingly impossible tasks) and pulled it off.
Kurt wanted to be a rock star. I don't think he wanted to be the most famous person on earth. Had he been able to pull off what Buckethead has, I think it may, have turned out differently. Bucket is known worldwide. Yet he can walk down any street anywhere and absolutely no one would recognize him. Nobody.
Had Kurt been able to maintain that, I think things would've been different. But without going in a mask 24/7 like Buckethead, theres really no other way. Buckethead has maintained it because of his social anxieties. That's a special case. Not sure just anyone could wear a mask as much as he does.
You tagged everyone except henry rollins
Rest in Peace, Kurt & Vinnie.
We have lost Soo many good musicians it's so very sad. Stop taking all the good ones- Dimebag & Vinnie, Kurt, Jim Morrison, Randy Rhodes, Cliff Burton, Jeff Hannmann..... The list goes on & on...smh
Rock & Roll will forever live. Rock in Peace.
People DIE.. When you live hard, you dont live as long. It is what it is, and its gonna continue to happen. Life goes on.. At least they left their art behind and they live on through it
@@vaughnmild4467 😁
Sometimes I think the sweetest guys take it the hardest in the farthest, maybe it's the sweetest guys that kill themselves?
Maybe, i mean, I’m usually sweet and kind. Sometimes I worry that someday I might end up doing the same thing
@@meep9231 that wouldn't be sweet would it
@@ayearandahalf4112 no it wouldn’t
@1:18 what jacket is Kurt wearing? Where can I find it? And shirt too maybe
I was a middle school when Kirk cobain died and I remember people crying and some kids being suicidal Literally wanting to die with him it was crazy. The 90s early 2000s was an awesome time to be alive.
I second that.
Kurt*
Miss you heaps Kurt…
Im a diehard Nirvana fan. And this interview is shocking to hear.
Henry’s neck be thiccc
Not as big as corpsegrinder.
LAds, Kurt wanted the fame, it was mixed with massive drug use and it ruined him. Non of us could handle the massive and quick change that hit him. But alot of it was wanted
Jon "can u spare a cigarette" Cummins (of the Doughboys) at 5:42 ?
Well, everybody didn't love 'em back when this happened, and before... Nowadays everybody acts like they were Nirvana's biggest fan, and there weren't a TON of us... But TRUE fans do still come along everyday...
What are you talking about Nirvana was huge before he died. It was as if other bands of the era weren't even on the same level as Nirvana. Nirvana was the biggest band in the world at the time before Kurt died.
if you want to hear an amazing musical yet angry fantastic album..every song is good..check out Rollins Band Lifetime
I watched all of his interviews, the ones just before his death. He finally got his gastric problems under control and he seemed to be well adjusted to the mania. I still think foul play was afoot. How do you blow your brains out with the dose that was in his system?
He was murdered, no doubt. All signs point to Courtney.
Why don't you just let it go and let the guy rest in peace? You guys just want a piece of a dead person.
He had been a heavy user for some time at that point, so he would've built up quite a tolerance.
The real question would be, "How does one kill themselves with the barrel of a shotgun pointed at their head if they can't even reach the trigger by their own fingers alone, whether they're standing up, sitting up, or in Kurt's case, lying down?" Also, the kick in the gun after it's fired would've sent it flying AWAY from him, like, literally across the room, instead of lying on his chest, because of the power behind it.
People love conspiracies. How about brilliant artist with bipolar and drug dependence/abuse commits suicide? Much cleaner explanation that doesn’t involve a litany of assumptions and interpretations.
thanks for this...if you haven't see it yet 'soaked in bleach' documentary go ahead thank me later...still missing those times
Yes its shiite
Totally tragic and yes KC was an artist through and through but don’t get it twisted - he courted and wanted the fame (then couldn’t cope with it). Fame and success rarely if ever comes by accident
You don't know what you're talking about....did you know him personally?
@@ash80510 I don't think you needed to know Kurt personally to recognize how a rockstar lifestyle caught up with him. Even in interviews it's hard to decide whether he was legitimately happy or not. We will never know what actually happened to him but we do know he's gone. But he'll never be forgotten, RIP Kurt
Still listening to Nirvana
Phil going backwards with the fractions 😂😂
Phil hit the nail here
I remember that day like it was yesterday, my bday is just days before, I was initially shocked and then so angry at him, even though I was crying. I can honestly say he is the only 'celebrity' death besides Chris Cornell's that put me through all the stages of grief; shock, denial, anger, sadness, bargaining, and finally acceptance. I think I am still bargaining about Cornell. Also I don't believe either killed themselves. Their widows are so damned shady, look at their actions, come on now...at least Love is a hype, Vicky is a true bitch on heels........ughh.
I was 16 when Kurt was murdered.in my late 30s when Cornell passed/murdered?
Still feel the pain of both losses
Rip kurt&chris
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My musical Heroes from the 70's & 80's Had no problem W/fame,fortune and all the "other perks"
Which ones are you referring to?
They also weren't murdered.
@Todd Wilson - I think you'll find quite a lot did..... Never heard of Jim Morrison, Elvis, Hendrix, John Bonham, Keith Moon, Janis Joplin, Karen Carpenter, Ian Curtis (later) or maybe the prevalence of smack amongst the old school jazz scene?
@@chesspunk489 Some were. John Lennon? Marvin Gaye?
I was 13 when kurt died. It was a huge blow.
The alternative community comes together.
Hank, articulate as always
LOL at first i thought that was henry rollins voice..🤣🤣
Kurt said his dream job would have been as a music critic for some magazine. Kurts wife Courtney said his big plan was only to make enough money to allow him to be a junky for the rest of his life. I think she said the number he had in mind was like 3 million. The one thing Kurt said that always stuck with me is when he said he hated everyone because everybody is so phony. A critic to the end.
3 million, oh boy was he an imbecile
They bought their home in a Seattle for 7 million.
Yea Kurt's income increased greatly around that time because he got 75% of the publishing royalties and the other 25% was to be split between Krist & Dave. He basically cut them out of their fair share of the bands profits his wife's idea of course it marked the beginning of the end for the band.
Great footage, real musicians stick together!!.
Nirvana members at diff times were well aware they wanted success. Success and world dominance are two diff things but
“Nevermind” is Butch Vig’s best record.
Still so incredible with all it’s over production
@@Jayinbloom it’s not overly produced it sounds good but overproduction is like pop music it’s still got grit
We never know anyone's life. At the end of the day musician's are only human too .
Being married to Courtney Love sure as hell didn't help things.
Narrator: Renery Hollins
"Henry Rawlins"
It might have been a case of too much fame, too soon, but Kurt was actively courting it. As was reported in the classic, "I Want My Mtv" oral history, Kurt had a habit of wanting his cake and eating it too. He'd complain about all the media attention, then use his manager to call and complain to Mtv whenever one of Nirvana's videos wasn't getting as much push as Kurt wanted.
Don't get me wrong, it's horrible he ended up trapped between his two desires, and ended up leaving his daughter behind in order to escape the prison he (helped) create.
Was this Henry Rollins while filming Heat?
The timing would have been close as Heat was released a year later.
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I was there
im so glad kurt didnt have to see this age of facebook,instagram and twitter ect.
He would despise what we’ve become...social media is cancer
Kurt worked hard to become famous it didn't happen over night like your video posting. Years of touring and music preceded nirvanas big break
Into the mainstream. Kurt was unstable his bipolar issues and a toxic relationship with Courtney and the rest is history.
It literally happened overnight. Yes, he did work hard for years, but they didn't gain traction until they signed with Geffen and Nevermind came out. They went from small clubs to packed arenas and massive festivals within the span of a couple weeks, and they've said as much in many interviews. "Overnight sensation" doesn't mean a band just started and became famous, it means the vast majority of their fans discovered them suddenly, and Nirvana is a prime example of that.
@@madhatter8508 you are absolutely wrong. The term over night success doesn't apply to real bands only fake ones created by record labels. Hard work is what it took.
Ask any band that made it big. Most of them have stories of the early days travelling from city to city in a shitty van, breaking down all the time, eating crackers, being broke. They wanted the masses to hear their music that they believed in so much. They knew it took hard work and persistence and kept at it.
@@spikeybug1 exactly.
There's no escape! Back in the 90s the tabloids we're always after Nirvana Micheal Jackson and Princess Dianna. And it wasn't the shot gun blast that ended his life.
No escape from all the hell he went through
Vince & Phil, 1 shirt blurred, 1 is not...?👍
what color is kurt cubains eyes? but really RIP kurt
@4:25 What is that drink Kurt is holding ?
Covonia bronchial balsam extra strong cough medicine...
what's the riff at the end of your videos?
Oh, just a riff from one of my songs, full song here ua-cam.com/video/fh_IM6Zu3iE/v-deo.html
Very cool riff dudeman, congrats!