Great job on these and covering the differences, both good and bad. Thank you! I've been running my brushless evo pro in the U.S. since Dec. 27th and loving it!
Great comparisons! On the FX118 - I use the RCAWD CR18P high clearance aluminum links. They are lower profile and don't have the bulky plastic ends that the Furitek links have
They are great replacements but I wish they had rod ends on the end of the links near the axle where the shocks mount so they could be adjusted to change pinion angle on the axles.
I may have to add an Evo Pro to the collection eventually. I am very happy with my FX118, just some new rims and tires, relocated the battery to the top of the axle/servo and it is really satisfying to drive! Seems odd to have a 2 speed on a comp style rig, and the extra wide axles, those would have made more sense on the FX118, with it’s combo performance/ trail leanings. Still, they can’t be perfect for everyone! Thanks for the detailed comparisons!
Furijunk couldn't design a decent RTR to save their lives. All they can do is ESC and motors without absolutely fumbling the ball even then they're pretty horrible because there's a good chance your product will be dead on arrival or kill itself almost instantly. Once that happens, good luck with CS. Every one of their rigs is a great build list in search of better builders. You could buy $300 in parts, take a trip to the zoo and throw them into a monkey enclosure and you'll leave with a better designed rig than if you gave the same parts to furijunk.
Definitely a step in the right direction, furitek just slapped their parts into an established chassis and did nothing at all to iron out any of the platforms issues or the issues that arise from forcing your parts into a rig they weren't intended for. Hobbyplus definitely was paying attention to all of the complaints with the fx118 and killed it with this release.
I have the Evo Pro brushless & have had it out with my Fury Wagon & other popular minis & while the Fury wagon can hold its own it’s a matter of physics the Evo is just built to perform better especially a course. I just need to get a little brass in the front of mine my Meus wheels & tires just came & I’m surprised by how much they weigh definitely hefty gotta get them on ASAP 👍
Super nice video. Very informative and hits all the pertinent questions. I really love that EVO Pro. Hope to get one as my next purchase. It's so much fun watching FMS and HobbyPlus push the envelope with each new release! It'll be interesting to see what people think of that crazy new HardPark dementor, which just blows all the other RTR's away with quality and price.
thanks for the vids. I feel like we need kits now, not rtr. and i'm hoping new innovation comes and deletes all typical issues such as torque twist in the future.
@@DoubleADay that's mainly still an rtr you put together while a kit i define as a unique style chassis, links, and axles designed by engineers with proper geometry of physics. we're missing these as more companies make rtrs instead.
Yeah, it’s just got a better chassis setup. Also the wider axles and bigger tires will help but that’s because bigger always performs better (if you want a fair compare, they need to have the same track width and same length and same diameter tires.
I have both trucks too. I like the Evo pro more with the stock Links. My Furitek Fury Wagon i still have a problem with those furitek links adjusting correctly over many times. Rear shock wont compress all the way due to the rear top link to close hitting the bottom link. But i see more options to get right. Up front is ok could use another adjustment for all shocks to compress all the way down.
I want to buy the brushless evo pro with the lc80 body, that would be amazing. I'm terrible at trying to fit things that aren't made to fit together though
Mine is only probably had two or three packs to it if that and Servo already went bad on the steering which we all know you know the stock ones ain't the greatest this one is it is pretty quick pretty good
Thanks for the comparison Ken! The Evo Pro does seem pretty close to the SCX24 scale. Certainly more so than the FCX24. Always put me off that the FCX24 looked so much bigger than the SCX24. Evo looks 1/24th and the FCX24 looks like it should be 1/18th. IMO. But I'm not a big fan of such fine slicing up of the scale pie. 24th, 10/12th, 1/8th, 1/4. That's good. Certainly in the 24th neighbourhood, they just all can't seem to get together and use the same measuring tape. LOL! Hopefully HP realizes at some point, Canada is actually populated with people and there are people interested in RC. Be nice if they'd consider selling up here. ( I know, I'm always the whiny Canuck...... LOL!)
Yeah, many are very off in their scale. The issue is that they want to build a platform for a certain scale, but if you change the body, the scale can change. The FCX24 Smasher is a nearly perfect 1/24... but the fcx24 power wagon, and k5 blazer, is very much 1/18. The scx24s are almost all 1/22. The Evo Pro might be 1/22ish fi you had much smaller tires and track width. The UTB18... is 1/14th.
@@TheShopMiniRC I guess I always go by scale of the body. Window size, door size, cab/cockpit size, etc. Seems to kinda be a reliable point of reference. Tires can very greatly on 1:1 cars and trucks as can wheel base, so I don't consider them when looking at a rig. But, that just makes sense in my brain. I really like the EVO Pro. It wouldn't look out of place on a 1/24th scale course. Hopefully at some point HP will have them available at more than a couple places and zero places up here. :D
So I have the brushless version & a lot of the more popular 1:24 & 1:18 scale minis including the Fury Wagon I’d say so far the Evo is in a different class just like in the 1:10th scale has trail / comp/ and scale the Evo definitely falls into the comp category but there just isn’t a lot of competition in that class in mini form. So Hobby Plus did its homework people are buying it like crazy it’s always out of stock & when back in stock is back out the next day I got an email alert & ordered it next day all out.
@@mikecoe3254 better battery life and faster (and slower). Remember, these are crawlers, slow and smooth with good throttle control is key… they are not meant to go fast. They can, but it’s not what they are for. But, brushless will give you the “fastest” while also giving you the slowest.
It's just harder to work with Phillips. You can stick a tiny hex head driver into tiny screw head, and it holds on to stick screws in tight places and get them started. With phillps the screws falling off driver gets frustrating. Hope that helps.
Great job on these and covering the differences, both good and bad. Thank you! I've been running my brushless evo pro in the U.S. since Dec. 27th and loving it!
Glad to help!!
I had a chance to drive the Evo Pro on our Utah rocks. I have to say, it is ridiculously capable out of the box.
Its a damn good RTR for sure!
Great comparisons! On the FX118 - I use the RCAWD CR18P high clearance aluminum links. They are lower profile and don't have the bulky plastic ends that the Furitek links have
Great tip!
They are great replacements but I wish they had rod ends on the end of the links near the axle where the shocks mount so they could be adjusted to change pinion angle on the axles.
I may have to add an Evo Pro to the collection eventually. I am very happy with my FX118, just some new rims and tires, relocated the battery to the top of the axle/servo and it is really satisfying to drive!
Seems odd to have a 2 speed on a comp style rig, and the extra wide axles, those would have made more sense on the FX118, with it’s combo performance/ trail leanings. Still, they can’t be perfect for everyone! Thanks for the detailed comparisons!
You should! I agree that a true comp rig
Doesn’t want a two Speed. Would be cool to find a way to make it dig instead of 2 speed.
I'm just not that impressed with the fx118. I definitely think the Evo Pro is a step in the right direction
Furijunk couldn't design a decent RTR to save their lives. All they can do is ESC and motors without absolutely fumbling the ball even then they're pretty horrible because there's a good chance your product will be dead on arrival or kill itself almost instantly. Once that happens, good luck with CS.
Every one of their rigs is a great build list in search of better builders.
You could buy $300 in parts, take a trip to the zoo and throw them into a monkey enclosure and you'll leave with a better designed rig than if you gave the same parts to furijunk.
Furitek rigs are ass water quality.
All of their rigs are pretty terrible.
Definitely a step in the right direction, furitek just slapped their parts into an established chassis and did nothing at all to iron out any of the platforms issues or the issues that arise from forcing your parts into a rig they weren't intended for. Hobbyplus definitely was paying attention to all of the complaints with the fx118 and killed it with this release.
I have the Evo Pro brushless & have had it out with my Fury Wagon & other popular minis & while the Fury wagon can hold its own it’s a matter of physics the Evo is just built to perform better especially a course. I just need to get a little brass in the front of mine my Meus wheels & tires just came & I’m surprised by how much they weigh definitely hefty gotta get them on ASAP 👍
Great info!
Nice to see the CR18 platform comparison.
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Something Awesome.... Ha... We like the LC80 as a close runner up to the FX118 and the H+ EVO PRO
Good choice!
What LC80 are you refering?
Super nice video. Very informative and hits all the pertinent questions. I really love that EVO Pro. Hope to get one as my next purchase. It's so much fun watching FMS and HobbyPlus push the envelope with each new release! It'll be interesting to see what people think of that crazy new HardPark dementor, which just blows all the other RTR's away with quality and price.
Glad it was helpful! And thanks a ton for watching. The Hardpark is more of a “custom rig” than a traditional rtr
@@TheShopMiniRC I agree regarding the Dementor, but I think that's what makes it groundbreaking!
thanks for the vids. I feel like we need kits now, not rtr. and i'm hoping new innovation comes and deletes all typical issues such as torque twist in the future.
The Rockvan kit would definitely be what you are looking for
@@DoubleADay that's mainly still an rtr you put together while a kit i define as a unique style chassis, links, and axles designed by engineers with proper geometry of physics. we're missing these as more companies make rtrs instead.
More Kits would be a nice option. (Especially of the better rigs)
Great video!! I have the evo pro brushless with some RCAWD revolver rims. Its unstoppable!
Nice! Cool rims.
I love them both for vastly different reasons. However the Evo Pro is hands down the better performer out-of-the-box.
Yeah, it’s just got a better chassis setup. Also the wider axles and bigger tires will help but that’s because bigger always performs better (if you want a fair compare, they need to have the same track width and same length and same diameter tires.
A new perspective. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Was hoping to get the Evo Pro and put my Rock Van body on it--seems pretty doable!
Very double. It’s the same wheelbase basically. Just need the mounts to work.
I was thinking about doing the swap. But it almost seems cheaper to buy a brushed truck and swap the fury electronics over decisions decisions haha.
hahaha yeah, hard call
What about comparing the Evo to the Axial AX24. XC-1 ? I would like to see that
Very different trucks. The Evo is MUCH bigger and wider with no rear steer. The AX is smaller, more narrow and has rearsteer,
I have both trucks too. I like the Evo pro more with the stock Links. My Furitek Fury Wagon i still have a problem with those furitek links adjusting correctly over many times. Rear shock wont compress all the way due to the rear top link to close hitting the bottom link. But i see more options to get right. Up front is ok could use another adjustment for all shocks to compress all the way down.
Thanks for sharing your experience as well!
I want to buy the brushless evo pro with the lc80 body, that would be amazing. I'm terrible at trying to fit things that aren't made to fit together though
Might have a width issue with the lc80 body on the evo. (The evo shift servo is on the side slider and makes narrow bodies not fit well)
Mine is only probably had two or three packs to it if that and Servo already went bad on the steering which we all know you know the stock ones ain't the greatest this one is it is pretty quick pretty good
Man… that’s fast. We haven’t had an issue yet.
Thanks for the comparison Ken! The Evo Pro does seem pretty close to the SCX24 scale. Certainly more so than the FCX24. Always put me off that the FCX24 looked so much bigger than the SCX24. Evo looks 1/24th and the FCX24 looks like it should be 1/18th. IMO.
But I'm not a big fan of such fine slicing up of the scale pie. 24th, 10/12th, 1/8th, 1/4. That's good.
Certainly in the 24th neighbourhood, they just all can't seem to get together and use the same measuring tape. LOL!
Hopefully HP realizes at some point, Canada is actually populated with people and there are people interested in RC. Be nice if they'd consider selling up here. ( I know, I'm always the whiny Canuck...... LOL!)
Yeah, many are very off in their scale. The issue is that they want to build a platform for a certain scale, but if you change the body, the scale can change. The FCX24 Smasher is a nearly perfect 1/24... but the fcx24 power wagon, and k5 blazer, is very much 1/18. The scx24s are almost all 1/22. The Evo Pro might be 1/22ish fi you had much smaller tires and track width.
The UTB18... is 1/14th.
@@TheShopMiniRC I guess I always go by scale of the body. Window size, door size, cab/cockpit size, etc. Seems to kinda be a reliable point of reference. Tires can very greatly on 1:1 cars and trucks as can wheel base, so I don't consider them when looking at a rig. But, that just makes sense in my brain. I really like the EVO Pro. It wouldn't look out of place on a 1/24th scale course. Hopefully at some point HP will have them available at more than a couple places and zero places up here. :D
@@wingnutbert9685 agreed
Great video :). My favorite truck right now is my cayman pro V1!
Good choice!
So I have the brushless version & a lot of the more popular 1:24 & 1:18 scale minis including the Fury Wagon I’d say so far the Evo is in a different class just like in the 1:10th scale has trail / comp/ and scale the Evo definitely falls into the comp category but there just isn’t a lot of competition in that class in mini form. So Hobby Plus did its homework people are buying it like crazy it’s always out of stock & when back in stock is back out the next day I got an email alert & ordered it next day all out.
Rcmcca is trying to bring more comps to the small scale world.
The more you point out things the more i like 👍
;)
I didn't know that about the traxxas trx gears. Thank you
Of course.
Was hoping for steering angle comparison
The cr18p axles (the same on all 3, and the fx118) have the best turn radius.
@@TheShopMiniRC Oh cool, even better than the trx4m, that surprises me
Has it been realesed yet ? All im seeing is preorder online
It has. Many places have sold out.
Great video as always. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks!
You bet!
I'm curious to know if the CR-18P and the CR-18P EVO Pro share the same electronic box.
sure does!
sorry i was new in rc world
is brushless better than brushed?
i was planning to get a evo pro soon
Brushless is MUCH smoother throttle control than brushed.
@@TheShopMiniRC thank you for replying ❤️
Any other differences in terms of how it drives (speed, duration on one battery)?
@@mikecoe3254 better battery life and faster (and slower). Remember, these are crawlers, slow and smooth with good throttle control is key… they are not meant to go fast. They can, but it’s not what they are for. But, brushless will give you the “fastest” while also giving you the slowest.
Hey, I'm just getting into the hobby, and had a noob question. What's the benefit of hex screws, as compared to phillips head screws?
It's just harder to work with Phillips. You can stick a tiny hex head driver into tiny screw head, and it holds on to stick screws in tight places and get them started. With phillps the screws falling off driver gets frustrating. Hope that helps.
Yep. What Johnny said. Philips are just harder to work with and strip easier.
Fcx18 is still my #1 pick for mini crawlers. Axial is really falling behind in this department
Great choice. We love the fcx18 for sure.
Does the cr18 pro come with brushless motor? Though I saw some vids where they were brushless
there are some that comes brushless. they are over $200 and are only sold by non-US companies.
Can they be shipped to the states ?
I had to make a decision between the new Cayman sck or this. Cayman won. Maybe in a few months.
Very big price difference.
@@TheShopMiniRC do you feel the Furitek system makes it worth the added price?
I hear the evo pro and fx118 have sloppy drive lines?
Not really any more sloppy than other portal axles