How to Mix Fat, Dirty Drums - Ridin' the Mix Buss
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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Episode 2 - The Dirtier the Better: UBK gives an overview of two very different ways to treat the same drum sounds that were used in two different songs, in order to maximize the emotional impact of each production.
I think the secret sauce in this video is that you're mixing in the context of an actual cool track as opposed to like every other mixing video on youtube where somehow they're mixing the most unlistenable/cheesiest rock song that should have been left in the mid '90s
Yeah, I'm with you, a lot of vids there is that whole nagging question of "wait, what is this in service of?"
100%
Yeah seriously these songs are sick. This channel is gonna be huge. Such high quality content.
fucking finally someone said that
everything in rock industry tries to sound like quagmire toilet song ffs
Man couldn’t of said it better
DUDE your channel will go so far with this quality. You kind of give the vibe that you'd be the Bob Ross of Audio tutorials. :P
I would consider it the highest possible honor to be considered the Bob Ross of Audio!
feel the same :D also when someone has no clue about producing, you know how to catch your audience :D
I definitely feel like this is a very calming and educational channel for a very bizarre year in the history of humans.
Bob ross is a weirdo though. How do you not pick up on his creepiness?
I thought the same before! It’s the combination of valuable content and his gentle appearance which makes me watching him.
it's very rare to find such interesting videos about audio production these days. Nicely done, Kush !
I agree, which is why I'm doing these. Thanks for the kind words Ricardo!
These video lessons are perfect for learning, but also for falling asleep when you have insomnia or anxiety.
Your articulation on the specific qualities your mics captured vs. what the plugins add are solid gold, my friend.
I would also add that the drummer's performance and lighter touch PAIRED WITH the stellar mic / placement / processing choices are what make this such a pleasure to listen to.
Absolutely, 1000% agreed, and I'm not just saying that because I'm the drummer :-P
I’ve only seen 2 or 3 of your videos but I can confidently say that this is my new favorite channel lol
man what a clip, always a pleasure watching someone work that actually knows the engineering on the recording, i feel like it was recorded like theres no mixing and it really shows but how the amount of processing is minimal
Ya this was just incredible...your one of the last bastions who can create music that moves u.....this is music that reaches out and says hello, sits down next to me and lights a spliff...passes it and we just both lay back and relax...man this is really something...the timbre...speechless...I got no more...
Super cool. These lessons have the vibe of a weather forecast on a rainy rainy day.
I love rainy days, which sucks for me as I live in southern California!
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos, this is great stuff! It's inspiring to watch real drums being recorded to sound and feel unique rather than seeing yet another tutorial on mixing Superior Drummer.
Greetings from the Baltics!
You're very welcome. And maybe someday these kinds of sounds will *be* in a Superior Drummer pack...
Maybe you could sell us some before then, very tasty drums :)
Fantastic Greg, sounds incredible. Loved seeing you do your thang, as opposed to just hearing you on the podcast! Also great to have you flying solo, much more chill and focused. Lovely! Heading over to the full ep 3 now!
Best asmr channel and my favourite mixing channel on youtube. Keep up the great stuff my dude, youre an inspiration.
Sweet Video! I love how you verbally explicate your thought processes.. I think just hearing another producer think out loud really adds the most amount of insight into production... especially when you emphasize or focus on the quality of the sound descriptively instead of the idea of the numbers representing the frequency range... it's all about the approach, and you've got really clean lines of seeing things there, and I think those are the avenues that can really help lead you some place special!
That's an awesome bit of feedback, thank you for the kind words!
I was always afraid of getting my drums dirty. But now I feel the urge, this sounds great!
These drums sound so thick.. love it. Thanks for the tutorial! I definitely need to find an EV RE10 or something like it.
When I worked in a studio 25 years ago, the only rule was, never, ever using the words “warm” and “punchy” in the mixing room lol. ..nice to see some things never change.
Sounds like someone had issues...
What about "it needs to 'pop' more"
Chillaxin’ right out to this track. Sweet demonstration dude. Love those drums
Pure magic. Thanks @Greg for making these "Ridin' the mix bus" series. Again, showing that with a 200$ drum kit, if you know what you're doing with the right tools you can achieve great sound. Tools are great if you can afford them all or a few ones but the person behind makes the magic happen. Again, thanks ever so much for doing this Master @UBK ;-).
Give me character and atmosphere any day over clean and pristine. Proud to be a subscriber to the Kush plug-in suite. Cheers!
We're proud to have you as a supporter, thanks Gary!!
You're always teaching me something new, Greg! Keep it coming!
Thanks man, that's the plan!
This is amazing!!! Went from Tame Impala to Radiohead with same kit setup!
Love your plugins man! 1 happy customer right here, keep up the delicious work with that sweet sweet ear candy!
Awesome! Thank you!
Absolutely gorgeous sound quality ...and just love the way you move the viewer to listen more than just watch.
A kuppa koffee and Kush - now that's a sexy sonic morning.
Right??
your video on mixing in mono has changed everything for me. you're 100% the bob ross of audio.
On top of all the skills, knowledge and expertise.......an amazing voice 👍.
Awww, shucks...
Jesus Christ man what a drum sound is that... Fuck, on point
Great sounds and awesome approach of revealing just enough to spark creativity. Thank you!
Thanks so much, that's exactly what I'm trying to do, I'm glad it's working!
This is great. If more music/engineering education would focus and observe emotional responses to the music, the world would be a better place! Love the Bazzz as well, is that also the Prophet?
Just found this channel, it is great! Most youtube tutorials talk about boring/irrelevant stuff, and the quality of the video and music is often questionable, but not here! Also, you talk about emotion and why you're doing stuff in order to achieve a certain feel etc., rather than saying something like 'I always use parallel compression on drums because it's the right thing to do', or whatever other people say haha.
Even his Logic is stylized to look like Kush plugins. haha.
#alwaysdownwithbrown
@@TheHouseofKushTV you should hit up technology connections lol
Is this logic theme available to download anywhere?
@@TheBBQify Dark Orange
im two days into binging your channel... great stuff learning tons!!! you and warren huart with produce like a pro are my instructional gurus... chill guys with tons of musical expertise... great stuff..
Love your work. Congrats
Yo Yo...I watched episode 3 first, I didn't realize 1-2 were over on this side of the internet. Anyway, my initial reaction was of one who did not get what you were doing. Now that I've actually heard in the context of the entire track, or as much of the track you have completed for the tutorial, brother I totally dig it! Love the vibe and the synth's...all of it, super cool! I just wanted to tell you that. For some reason I wasn't able to comment on the ep 3 vid so I did it here...Really, really dig what you are doing with your gear and plugins. The way you explained mix bus compression was perfect...I've been using it and knew it was benefitting what I was doing, but wasn't able to hear the articulation of it so clearly until you described what to listen for, Really great brother, Thank you..it seems so much of all of this is knowing what to listen to/for, once that comes into view its like "AH, now I can see what you are talking about"
really really good voice over quality man
This was extremely cool. THANK YOU!
Glad you dug it man!
My kinda sound - my kinda dude. Thank you fo making these videos!
Man! How good do those drums sound!!! Epic!!! Surely a sample pack!!! Haha! It is so refreshing to hear this is possible! Thanks for sharing man!
dropped like a like just for that sweet intro. wish more channels had intros like this
I need both of those tracks. VIIIIBESSS! 🥁🥁🎺🎶
Your videos melt my face with sonic goodness. Wow.
Only producer/youtube channel that I actually like the music of. I know I'll get some good tips here. Very pleasing warmth from the drums and really directionally diverse mix.
insane to me that your channel isn't bigger, these videos are crucial!
Your music is amazing love what you did with drums
Thanks, the older I get, the dirtier I like my drums!
That phase bit at the end. I thought it was going to be shite, but fair play, the best.... also Vic from F is for family?
Have recently become a big fan of both your videos and your plugins. I have a subscription to the Kush plug-in bundle and have been getting great value out of it. My question is....how are you getting the dark mode on your Logic interface that is seen in the video? Is that lpx colorizer you're using? I'd really like to get mine looking like that.
Isn't this a full series? Why do I only see two short episodes? I know on your podcast you said that episodes were $0.99. I am totally down to pay if they're still available somewhere.
Love this channel! Just commenting because today I discovered a shortcut to activate/bypass multiple plugins in LPX, prob came with the last update. If you click the ‘setting’ tab at the top of a channel strip, it now has ‘bypass all effect plugins’ as well as ‘remove all bypassed effect plugins’ as options. I’d seen this requested in the forums in the last few years and Apple has come through in the name of workflow! Although, this hasn’t made my mixes any better... (yet lol)
Cool music vibe dude. Nice studio space and tech.
Thanks man, I definitely can't complain, it's an awesome space to create music in!
Love the music, mic technique and style💣🧨💥
Even your daw colors are vibey!
awesome!!! I have sooo many questions!!! But you are inspiring me; soo much!!!! thanks!!
Ask!!
I have never before heard drums that sound this good.
I wanna see more of these videos !
Logic, the awesome DAW. Like the BOOM🐲
Well done. Love the drum sounds
Loving them synth sounds.
This shit makes me laugh out loud, sitting alone by myself sometimes. Haha You're funny K.
Is this a song I can listen to somewhere? Its in my head all day since I first saw this video, it's such a sexy groove and vibe im dying to know if theres a sound or MORE. Please kush!
It never became a song, the clips in this video were just sketches I used to show off some techniques :-)
@@TheHouseofKushTV I need this as a 2 minute loop man
Nice work, love it. How did you customize the look and color scheme of Logic? Brown plugins, etc. I can't find that option...
i can’t believe how much like a clap that snare sounds at one point
Re10 side mic on snare.... well if that ain't the shit. Between that and your tip on using the 635A for vocal overdubs you've upped my bag o' tricks considerably. Many thanks!
I'm all about that vibe brother!
@@TheHouseofKushTV I love it when you said, "You've got to find other ways to make the kick, not louder, but more horrible" in your video about mixing in mono. You speak my language. I had to re-listen to that segment a couple times.... "Did he really just say 'More horrible?'". LOL, love it! My way of thinking precisely, as a drummer/hack engineer with 50+ years of experience... I did a recording back in 1978 on a Teac 3340 where I turned up every knob in the chain (mixing board gain, faders, all eq knobs, tape deck input gain, etc.) all the way up on the drums (almost broke the VU meters on the Teac, hahahaha) and they sounded fabulous.
Lol! I think I actually said "more audible". But I have been known to use a crushing amount of distortion on a kick to make it sit down and behave, and it does NOT sound good when solo'd! 😛
@@TheHouseofKushTV Hahahaha! Well, that's what 50 years of slamming the drums will do to your ears! I'm still going with more horrible though, cuz sometimes it's true. And it can be surprising how horrrible can turn into beautiful if you mix it in just right.
awesome song
yes
damn some good shit here man! Enjoyed this very much!
i actually like a bit of boxy in my drums
You should sell a midi drum pack , great drums as usual 😉
Very cool. I wanna to capture some of this flavour 👌
Great channel
Amazing!
You're gorgeous and nice drum sounds too. Love the minimal technique and looking forward to the deep dive.
Thanks Bob! I like minimalism because I spend less time fussing with a million options, I don't do well managing a ton of details!
Greg, sounds so good! I love the vibe your getting. The drum grooves are incedible with so much feel. Is this your project and when will it be available? I would love to get a copy when done.
Thanks Jason! My main project is Sneaky Little Devil, we just dropped our first two songs and videos, check us out!
ua-cam.com/video/u2qI1dO1Mxo/v-deo.html
Amazing stuff man. Where do I get the track that starts at 4:18?
Love the tones...proper Vintage in the box...( is there external hardware I ask)...?
Is there a way i could get that first song? Kinda like it
Thanks for the vids! About to purchase the third episode. It seems like there are some bad edits in the drum comps though. You can hear them transition and sometimes pop.
Fantastic video (this, and the one on mic positioning), great drum sound and great music too, but I'd really appreciate a de-esser on your voice. It gets PAINFUL !
Also, can you tell us which skins are you using on Logic?
Thank you Federico! Is it possible you are particularly sensitive to the frequencies in my 'esses'? I've just never heard this feedback from anyone else, which doesn't mean you're wrong, it just means I'm not sure what to make of it because literally hundreds of thousands of people have listened to my voice at this point.
For me, I know I'm extra sensitive to 2.5k, so a lot of 'nasal' female voices are physically painful for me but not for other people. I'm also not a fan of 6k, it feels like icepicks sometimes!
Anyway, the Logic skin is my own, it's a very 'Kush' theme, I'm thinking of making it available to anyone who wants it because it's pretty funky!
Actually, I think you are right, I had a nasty 'feedback accident' a few hours earlier, and it turns out that even if the pain and ringing had stopped in a matter of minutes I must have been over-sensitive for the rest of the day. Now listening to the same video I find that it's all normal, thank heavens, and I feel a bit of an idiot. Scary stuff.
Having said that, jump to 4:12 where you same "same micSSS, same positionSSSS" and you'll have to admit you are playing with fire there.
A Kush skin to download would be great, I particularly like the color you have for selected channel strips on the mixer.
And then I replied from a different account. Yep.
Ha! No worries, but yes, I do push things pretty far in general, and my esses are splatty even before processing. Glad to hear your ears have recovered, oto-acoustic trauma is a very real protective phenomenon the body does and I've experienced it several times myself, once from a firecracker and once from a front-row seat in a rock concert. That one took several days to recover from, I was freaked out!
Lovely jubbly! Time to make a hot chocolate and watch the next episode! Greetings from London!
Excellent, can never be too dirty
MORE OF THESE PLEASE!!!!!! xo
Good stuff!
House of Kush - This is all in the box? No outboard processing?
Yes indeed, all ITB with 100% Kush and Sly-Fi plugins. You can hear at 1:30, I bypass all the plugins, that's a flat dry sound. I use an i/o plugin to do a virtual routing to my RME console so I can have a separate cue mix into an earbud in my right ear, and to a spdif out where I capture the audio of the mix into another computer (because I'm using my main daw for the drum demonstration, I can't record with it). These simple videos are ridiculously complicated to produce!
@@TheHouseofKushTV Awesome. It really sounds great... and yes.. it's absolutely crazy how complicated it can be to make a video that otherwise looks very simple to the viewer. I appreciate you for doing it for us. I'll be subscribing to both Kush and Sly Fi within a week. For a while I was holding out until the ilok dongle wasn't necessary. But ultimately it just makes better sense to have one, so I caved and ordered one yesterday. 👍🏻
@@jmorrisey79 Thanks for the support, glad to have you in the family!
What’s the song at 4:20? I could listen to that for hours.
Please please tell me how you recorded your voice without any ear monitoring, yet you hear what you were doing. What's the microphone for this by the way? Great content, instantly subbed :)
Mic is a vintage Studer-branded Schoeps CMC5. The setup was simple, I had the speakers playing but at an incredibly low volume, which is where I spend a lot of my time when mixing so I know how things are supposed to sound at that playback level. Mic still picked up bleed, so there's some gentle gating on the VO track to suppress that when I'm not speaking, and the VO itself is the key for ducking the audio track you hear. Nothing new or fancy, just old school techniques applied tastefully to get me where I need to go :-)
@@TheHouseofKushTV no way for both the quick reply and the information :) you perhaps meant the CMC5 ? i did not know this mic. i guess you need to have a capsule to it, so i suppose the real important thing about it would be its polar pattern. I suppose cardioid which turned away from the speakers ? perhaps from up above? if i was to publish an article on VO for youtube, i definietly going to mention you :)
Yes, CMC5, thanks for the correction! Almost always when I record my voice with a condenser, it's 15-18" away from my mouth, otherwise the bass in my voice (which is copious) gets out of hand 💪🏼
where can i listen to your music?
I did all the music for the Kush plugin demos, and my main project is www.sneakylittledevil.com :-)
Awesome!!
where is the rest of this series?
Wow!!! huge sound!!! BTW, where can I get this Kush theme for LOGIC LoL !!!
I'm going to make it available at thehouseofkush.com, if you sign up for our museletter I'll let you know when it's up!
I´ve been trying to sign for but I don´t get any confirmation mail (tried two-three emails)... Please where can I get this huge theme...
Is the theme available somewhere yet?! Fell in love the instant I saw it
Love the sound!!! Where did you get the tube traps? You can really hear them taking over the sound in the room!
Yeah, they are NOT subtle and I could not do anything on the level that I'm doing if it weren't for them. I got mine Direct from ASC but they come up on Ebay and regional Craiglists from time to time, my friends have all been converted and that's where they got them. Good luck Tim!
That second song is filthy.
Excellent!
4:54 ....whaaat a vibe
Wonderful crunch!!!You don`t use any kind of gate on snare and kick!!Is that true?
Topic Suggestion: Two Stage Serial Compression on drums. Do you use this?
FX Chain: EQ->Comp(opti)->Comp(FET/VCA)->
Opti ~10ms
FET/VCA
I'll do serial compression via busses, meaning a drum will get compressed and then fed to a bus with compression. Compression
The House of Kush Yeah I understand that 1ms is too fast. All by itself.
Break up the job of 1 compressor into 2. That’s what I’m talking about. Snare thru optical (LA2A) and then thru 1176. Neither comp does much. The opti doesn’t do anything on the peaks. It only builds body. The 1176 just shaves 0.5 to 1 dB off the peak.
By splitting the task to 2 units with different abilities, you can minimize heavy handed artifacts but keep the sweet.
Just something I use. ☮️
Ahh, got it! I totally missed the part about it being a suggestion and thought you were just asking me what I did! Yeah, serial compression is classic technique and a great suggestion for an ep, thanks!
@@audionmusic3628 @the house of kush Would you recommend serial compression on electronic drums/ samples? Considering we don't want a super compressed sound.
its like the old vynil life with modern extras
Question: That snare drum has a certain dirty quality in all your mics. It's brilliant. Sounds like a head is loose in a sly, sexy way. How do you have it tuned?
Honestly, I have no idea. My tuning approach is pretty unorthodox, I monitor live thru the headphones with the cue mix playing, then turn each lug one at a time, up and down, while gently tapping the head. This lets me tune each lug in context to hear how it affects the pitch, transient, and overtones. Each lug has a sweet spot for the kind of texture I want the song to have.
I then spend an agonizing amount of time adjusting the snares in microscopic amounts until I get the quality of brightness I want and the sustain of the buzz is in time and feels good.
Throughout that process I"m also adding and removing and repositioning small folds of gaff tape to control overtones and sustain. If I'm going for a deeper thuddy sound (like in this video) the top snare head will have a small leather wallet or similar soft hefty wad of something taped to it as well. I've also used a rolled up sock and a (clean unused) baby diaper as well. 😁
@@TheHouseofKushTV Thank you for a very thorough answer. The sock is a great idea. The diaper cracks me up.
@@TheHouseofKushTV I personally use tea towels and gf's panties to "muff" the snare.:P
@@TheHouseofKushTV YES, the baby diaper!!! Got in trouble back in the '70's for that. Also for using them to wax the car. LOL Do they still have cloth diapers?
That was genius
Beautiful!!
Greg wtf, man. Love the vibe! I'd pay top dollar for a kontakt instrument w round robins and everything of this type of drum sound. Or just a sample pack! Maybe others would too... Hint hint! Just saying! ;)
I noticed he didn't need to gate the kick or snare. Everything in phase with no issues. Greg if you see this, maybe you could comment.
I can count on one finger the number of times in the past two decades where I've used a gate on a drum in a way that you'd hear or notice, mostly because there are only a couple of gates I find useful and they're both analog, so they don't fit my workflow. Software gates always feel abrupt to me and I don't like the vibe of the transient they leave behind. BUT, I'm a huge fan of adsr/envelope shapers (transient designers and the like) and use them all the time. And I'll sometimes use a gate to do verrry gentle reduction on bleed, like 3dB or maybe 6dB if I'm feeling plucky.
Keep in mind I'm a minimal mic kinda guy, used to be 4 but lately I'm down to 3 (two overs plus a kick mic). And I play soft and mix drums very forwaard. When all of your sound is coming from so few mics, and there's a lot of nuance and detail in a forward-mixed element, things like gates can be really intrusive. I'd rather play the part a dozen times to get it all balanced right with my limbs, it needs less processing of the "fix it" variety and the groove tends to be better too. 😊
@@TheHouseofKushTV Awesome, thank you, that all makes sense. Gates may be more appropriate when you've got lots of mics on the kit and don't care about having a natural sound. It might be different with live band tracking too.
that track Lovely ❤