Really loving all the new content! As someone that is studying sport science at university it is great to be able to see not only what is best but WHY from an anatomical and ‘nerd sh!t’ based approach
For the first exercise, if the gym doesn’t have that equipment but has a seated row machine by life fitness, will that do? New subscriber by the way. I stumbled upon your other lat video and couldn’t stop watching even though it’s late lol
With the Second Movement.. would you agree w/ Rack Pulls being as or more Beneficial?? Because that’s what they look like, those look like Stiff Leg Deads.
I would just do a Bent Over Barbell Row, and thats it 😂 its a mix of all of those moviments. One thing I ve learned: Simplicity is key for buiding muscle. Do not over complicate things, usually less is more
If it works for you, keep it up. Not my populations though: large people trying to get as large as possible. Then less movements training “everything” is less force for specific muscle groups, and more systemic fatigue.
I have a smith machine at home that's it and bench that inclines and declines and flat and weights plates I would like video workouts on just equipment please
hey coach, nice vid, for the second exercise, would the rdl be very good for back thickness since if doing the exercise in the standard sense the back is working isometrically, and isometric actions are typically not that effective for hypertrophy?
This is where the balance of “peer reviewed” evidence, and the evidence of results I’ve seen produced anecdotally is important. I would agree “typically” eccentric/concentric style training works best...except what I’ve seen with erectors. I could make the scienc-y argument that their main “function” is to stabilize/isometric contractions. But mainly I just point to the amount of tissue I’ve seen deadlift variations put on erectors. That being said, I still incorporate low back extensions often, and if huge erectors is the goal, I think programing both is the best practice.
hi from france joe. I enjoy ur content man, thanks for sharing knowledge. For back "Thickness" what about inverted row, or any other kind of rowing patern when lying on a bench or even some high row machine? Unlike bend over variation it seems there isnt any spine or hips loading on these exercise. Is there any downside that im not aware of?
I fucking love these videos. What about a rack pull vs the RDL? I have trouble keeping my lower back straight on RDLs and rack pulls help out with that.
Isn't another great thing about T-bar Rows the fact that it matches the strength profile of the movement well? Because the closer you get to that squeeze position, the less force you can produce and that's also where there is the least moment arm in a T-bar Row and in the stretched out position you can produce the most force and there is the most moment arm.
The drop-off at the top is very subtle. So, I wouldn’t quite say it “matches” your strength profile, but it is definitely better than most other free weight rows
Be sure to do a couple of lighter warm up sets to get some blood into the lower back, and possibly include isolation work for the lower back on a separate day to increase strength and endurance of the muscle.
hey coach, about an Upper/Lower split, if i start with upper lower, when if do pull ups and barbell rows, the next day in the lower when i do RDLs(its my main deadlift variation) i feel like my lats are going to explode cuz they sore af. if i reverse the order, lower then upper, when i try to do barbell rows i can’t even bend to that position properly because the lower back and hamstring soreness and fatigue from RDL the day before, how to fix this split/order problem?
Upper lower split...remove the barbell rows. The rdls and deadlifts will work the erectors Wanna keep the barbell rows in.. use a legs push pull, Off, legs split. And use a medium light heavy format for pulling. Do rdls after you squat on first leg day monday, do barbell rows on back day on wendsday, then deadlift on Friday 2nd leg day. But since you using the rdl as your main deadlift, move it to friday and use back extension on Monday
On the t bar rows you should collapse more at the bottom. Collapse, protract and internally rotate for full stretch on traps and rhombs Do this guys, thank me later. The stretch is insane.
Neither traps or rhomboids attach to the humerus. So when you internally rotate the only muscles that change length are ones that cross over the GH joint. May/may not hurt anything, but doesn’t benefit traps or rhomboids
@@HypertrophyCoach Test it. Since the scap follows the movement of your upper arm, it will tilt more when you IR the arm at the bottom possition. You can also see this if you have low enough BF. If you feel more stretch its useful for more growth.
HeyNowww I’ve tested it all my man. If it works for you, have at it. If I want to move my scapula more: protract, elevate, rotate...I do. With a fixed hand, and the minimal amount of IR you can produce doesn’t free up anymore scapula motion. At least not for me, or an other bodies I’ve worked with.
I find the excessive protection takes tension off the mid back and puts the tension temporarily in the hands, arms, rear delts and I guess stretches your lats and teres. I like an even shorter choppier movement Also you can you lose scapular control more easily if you protract too much.
Yea, might be as its individual how the internal is felt, But in theory the protraction and internal rotation of Uarm allows for the bottom angle of the scap to slide out towards the side and stretching all mid to low trap fibers more. Check it out in the mirror if your lean enough. You might have some tightness going on leading you to feel it in different muscles more, or less trap muscles and thus more sensational feelings in your more developed muscles mentioned.
lower back gets worked on everything... why do u isolate it and have the need to prioritise those lower back exercises as "back thickness"... it really isnt
The exercises shown here are also targeting the erector spinae muscles which sit beneath the superficial muscles of the rhomboids and traps and lower back, meaning that if you cause the erectors to grow, they will push out against your superficial muscles and literally increase "thickness" of the back.
loving the mini series coach! thank you for the knowledge bombs
Really loving all the new content! As someone that is studying sport science at university it is great to be able to see not only what is best but WHY from an anatomical and ‘nerd sh!t’ based approach
loved everything you said about RDLs. Easily my favorite builder of back thickness, and overall a top 3 exercise for overall size/hypertrophy imo.
Best coach on UA-cam. The long videos are great but more of these shorter ones will draw in subscribers I think
Mate love the bentover dumbell movement. The ease to position the hand is excellent. Thanks as always. Big fan from Australia!
Interesting that RDL is added for Back thickness. I do feel my lats activated when I'm holding heavy weights when I do RDLs
Love the app! keep up the good work, Coach!
Break stuff Bennett! Ill be putting these through the reps today
My grandma says this workout sucks but I’m sticking to it
Damn I just did back wish I watched this before I went to the gym 😔
For the first exercise, if the gym doesn’t have that equipment but has a seated row machine by life fitness, will that do? New subscriber by the way. I stumbled upon your other lat video and couldn’t stop watching even though it’s late lol
Yes, perfectly fine. Just want something that allows for a lot of freedom with upper arm path, and you can move your shoulder blades a lot 👍
Much needed, thanks coach
Just incredible stuff. Wish I would have found these before.
I like the feel of that gym - kind of like a fantasy home gym.
Fuck this is quality content. Such an underrated channel
Thanks Jason Kelce/Jonas Valunciunas
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gold content ! keep it coming
CS tbar row
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With the Second Movement.. would you agree w/ Rack Pulls being as or more Beneficial?? Because that’s what they look like, those look like Stiff Leg Deads.
I prefer banded rack pulls for upper traps. RDLs for erectors
Hypertrophy Coach Ok, thank you💯
I would just do a Bent Over Barbell Row, and thats it 😂 its a mix of all of those moviments. One thing I ve learned: Simplicity is key for buiding muscle. Do not over complicate things, usually less is more
If it works for you, keep it up. Not my populations though: large people trying to get as large as possible. Then less movements training “everything” is less force for specific muscle groups, and more systemic fatigue.
Any reason why cable rows wouldn't make it onto this list? Less bracing I guess but wouldn't they have a better profile and alignment?
Need waaaay more subs for all these gems you drop!! Would love to get with you for a training session one day! Could learn some things! 🙏🏾💪🏾
What a fucking boss
YOU will look frail if you keep talking about grandmas like that 🤣
"Focus on shoulderblades, wrapping around the ribcage.." Enlightenment. Subscribed.
Would you recommend doing both a lying Tbar row and a barbell row the same workout with different hand positions?
RDLs train hamstrings???? why is this being presented as a back excercise?
Awesome as always #hypertrophydad
So, after a hypertrophy phase, do you change up these three, going into a strength phase? And if so, what are your options then ?
What model is that Chest Supported T-Bar Row? Looking to pick up one of those for my home gym!
How important is contracting your scapula for a one or two second count when using heavy weight for back?
Very good tips.
Hi which Brand is the tbar
Was that a Dorian Yates 1 all out set cause I don’t think Bryce would have gotten another 10 reps
If we have no access to a chest supported row, are dumbbell rows performed on an incline bench a good substitute?
Yes, very good option still
what about the single arm dumbbell row?
I have a smith machine at home that's it and bench that inclines and declines and flat and weights plates I would like video workouts on just equipment please
hey coach, nice vid, for the second exercise, would the rdl be very good for back thickness since if doing the exercise in the standard sense the back is working isometrically, and isometric actions are typically not that effective for hypertrophy?
This is where the balance of “peer reviewed” evidence, and the evidence of results I’ve seen produced anecdotally is important. I would agree “typically” eccentric/concentric style training works best...except what I’ve seen with erectors. I could make the scienc-y argument that their main “function” is to stabilize/isometric contractions. But mainly I just point to the amount of tissue I’ve seen deadlift variations put on erectors. That being said, I still incorporate low back extensions often, and if huge erectors is the goal, I think programing both is the best practice.
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hi from france joe. I enjoy ur content man, thanks for sharing knowledge.
For back "Thickness" what about inverted row, or any other kind of rowing patern when lying on a bench or even some high row machine? Unlike bend over variation it seems there isnt any spine or hips loading on these exercise. Is there any downside that im not aware of?
Nope, those are fine options as well, especially for mid/lower traps
@@HypertrophyCoach thanks for your reply
I fucking love these videos. What about a rack pull vs the RDL? I have trouble keeping my lower back straight on RDLs and rack pulls help out with that.
Practice rdling with lighter weights and gradually get stronger
Wide pull ups ? Uper back thicknees ?
Isn't another great thing about T-bar Rows the fact that it matches the strength profile of the movement well? Because the closer you get to that squeeze position, the less force you can produce and that's also where there is the least moment arm in a T-bar Row and in the stretched out position you can produce the most force and there is the most moment arm.
The drop-off at the top is very subtle. So, I wouldn’t quite say it “matches” your strength profile, but it is definitely better than most other free weight rows
Coach, i have shoulder pain if I row with dumbells. What can I do to fix that?
Didn’t work. Anymore?
how many sets and reps?
What to do of i dont have a chest support tbar row at my gym? Can i do a machine with chest support or dumbells with chest support?
Yup!
Is the hoist tbar row good?
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Could you do a video on forearms? Like how to get Frank McGrath forearms? Anyways love the channel.
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Could rack pulls work just as good as rlds for back?
Not as much stimulus for erectors. But good for upper back/traps
How are RDLs different from still legged deadlifts?
No real difference
Hypertrophy Coach thank you!
The actual answer is that strictly speaking, for an RDL you don't pick the weight off the ground, it stays in the air constantly
top 3 width ?
Coming!
If i do Bent over row or RDLs my lower back and hips will be sore for a week... in a bad way
Be sure to do a couple of lighter warm up sets to get some blood into the lower back, and possibly include isolation work for the lower back on a separate day to increase strength and endurance of the muscle.
do smith machine row
@@MrTeacupcoffee still involves bending over and loading the lower back
@@adamcraig1468 you should tense your glutes and abs as hard as you can. If thats not enough, lighten the weight.
hey coach, about an Upper/Lower split, if i start with upper lower, when if do pull ups and barbell rows, the next day in the lower when i do RDLs(its my main deadlift variation) i feel like my lats are going to explode cuz they sore af. if i reverse the order, lower then upper, when i try to do barbell rows i can’t even bend to that position properly because the lower back and hamstring soreness and fatigue from RDL the day before, how to fix this split/order problem?
Upper lower split...remove the barbell rows. The rdls and deadlifts will work the erectors
Wanna keep the barbell rows in.. use a legs push pull, Off, legs split. And use a medium light heavy format for pulling. Do rdls after you squat on first leg day monday, do barbell rows on back day on wendsday, then deadlift on Friday 2nd leg day.
But since you using the rdl as your main deadlift, move it to friday and use back extension on Monday
@@donovanjackson7999 thank you for your most complete answer i ve got, gonna try this and in 2 weeks i may tell how it went
Aren't RDL the same as SLDL?
No,check out Alan Thrall's video on this
what about rep ranges?
The majority of the time I’d say 6-12
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On the t bar rows you should collapse more at the bottom.
Collapse, protract and internally rotate for full stretch on traps and rhombs
Do this guys, thank me later. The stretch is insane.
Neither traps or rhomboids attach to the humerus. So when you internally rotate the only muscles that change length are ones that cross over the GH joint. May/may not hurt anything, but doesn’t benefit traps or rhomboids
@@HypertrophyCoach Test it.
Since the scap follows the movement of your upper arm, it will tilt more when you IR the arm at the bottom possition.
You can also see this if you have low enough BF.
If you feel more stretch its useful for more growth.
HeyNowww I’ve tested it all my man. If it works for you, have at it. If I want to move my scapula more: protract, elevate, rotate...I do. With a fixed hand, and the minimal amount of IR you can produce doesn’t free up anymore scapula motion. At least not for me, or an other bodies I’ve worked with.
I find the excessive protection takes tension off the mid back and puts the tension temporarily in the hands, arms, rear delts and I guess stretches your lats and teres.
I like an even shorter choppier movement
Also you can you lose scapular control more easily if you protract too much.
Yea, might be as its individual how the internal is felt,
But in theory the protraction and internal rotation of Uarm allows for the bottom angle of the scap to slide out towards the side and stretching all mid to low trap fibers more. Check it out in the mirror if your lean enough.
You might have some tightness going on leading you to feel it in different muscles more, or less trap muscles and thus more sensational feelings in your more developed muscles mentioned.
I thought my erector was in my groin area.
I would add a 'conventional' deadlift at the end as a personal preference.
The second exercise is a deadlift?
@HypertrophyCoach Yes, but the conventional deadlift, perhaps with a deficit. That's a personal preference.
lower back gets worked on everything... why do u isolate it and have the need to prioritise those lower back exercises as "back thickness"... it really isnt
The exercises shown here are also targeting the erector spinae muscles which sit beneath the superficial muscles of the rhomboids and traps and lower back, meaning that if you cause the erectors to grow, they will push out against your superficial muscles and literally increase "thickness" of the back.