THE TRUTH: Goku Vs Superman | Who Would Win?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
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today, we’re going to be ending the age-old to be between the two strongest. The man of steel Superman versus the hope of the universe Son Goku taking both of the absolute best, who would come out on top? who wins Son Goku Vs Superman
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"Because Someone As Strong As You Should Know When You're Completely Out Classed" Gave Me Chills 🔥
Exactly I said got damn Goku.😂
@@JakeRider-wc6ke you do realize that Superman wins right lol there dragon ball fanboys who can accept reality lol
Watch dragon ball heroes then come back@@randomreactionstv2721
@@randomreactionstv2721 aight, but Goku solos fiction
@@flowclown9179 kid go to sleep😂😂😂😂😂 Lois lane can beat goku😂😂😂😂😂
“The Symbol of Hope and the Hope of the Universe” gave me chills
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Epic!
As a wise person once said "A symbol means nothing without it being backed up by something"
Earth's Angel
I commented this many times on this channel, why didn't you understood then, why didn't u saw my comment?
Mfs don't watch the show
"Someone as strong as you, should know when you're completely outclassed" DAMN
DAMN, THATS SUCH A RAW LINE BRO!!!!!! That’s like totally an epic gamer move haha! In all realistic Superman would curb stomp goku
@@williammckenzie6865Goku destroys the sun What will superman do??It's an honest question can you answer it...Or he instant transmissions Superman to a planet full of kriptonyte..That's it..Goku has no weaknesses Superman does...
@@SmoKeSome357 in justice league issue 23 from 2018 Superman went decades without sunlight and still managed to leap several galaxies. Superman is pure HIM energy and goku dosent fight like that
@@SmoKeSome357 in justice league issue 23 from 2018 Superman went decades without sunlight and still managed to leap several galaxies. Superman is pure HIM energy and goku dosent fight like that
@@williammckenzie6865let's be honest here if it's ANIME GOKU then yeah Superman wins BUT if it's DBS Goku or Manga Goku then they will probably clap superman ngl
Superman is a gansta untill someone pulls out a shiny green rock
Superman has consistently shown to power through Kryptonite
@@burglarbagginz1464nah Batman can say otherwise
@@AlvarxpC.A.S > Superman base
@@Alvarxp Batman has plot armor
@Alvarxp batman can say whatever he wants still don't make a difference
The Warrior who can break any Limit
vs
The Saviour who has no Limits
Umm so both are goku?
That’s a redundant statement
@@tega588bro failed in his classes
Badass
@tega5The one who break any limits is Goku and the one who have no limits is Superman.88
i love this debate so much, i dont care who wins, watching people argue who wins is pretty amusing.
It WOULD be if most arguments weren't one smart person with a actual logical argument vs a person who doesn't do research, says stupid things that make no sense, and get toxic because someone debunked their opinion on who was stronger.
@ItsFred614 i am disappointed, Goku solos bruh
@@motivational_poet okay WAR THEN
@@eua4808 ok 😐
@@legendarytronic7774 That literally just happened to me 💀
This was a beautifully done video. I'm nearly 50, so Superman was around first and I'll always be a fan but Goku is my favorite and this video puts an exclamation point on the fact. Thank you!
goku low class saiyan warrior hope of universe became a angel and even gods respect dude
Still cant beat whis or his god of distraction cant beat grand priest @karoliskanapickas9492
@@user-zy1lz9kn6p the presence is the god of distraction, Beerus is the god of destruction lil bro😂
This is actual insanity the fact that he has Superman at like 6d and because of how he puts goku at boundless lvl which is crazy
Ikr like DC is only 6d? I'm wondering where he has marvel at🙏
@@ugospotty678 IDK, May Be Like Street Level? Cuz If That's The Case Then Great, That Would Be Awesome With Him Sharing His Totally Unbiased, 100% Legit Perspective.
@@mrsketchysketch680 Facts😂
@@mrsketchysketch680You just can't accept that DC is 6D
@@jeeetkr Because It's Wrong, You DBZ Fans Will Not Read The Comics Whatsoever and Speak bullshit, You Believe Everything That they Say On The Internet, Then You're the Idiot.
The man with the strength beyond the gods vs the man with the form the gods cannot reach gave me chills🔥🔥
Kakarot vs Kal El❤️🔥❤️🔥
@@tentaplayz3691interesting enough, their alien names start with a “K”
Kakarot and Kal-El
@@marcusbrown8036 well yhh dragon ball was inspired by the superman comics
@@mosheikh5208 Akira Toriyama has never stated goku is partially Based off of superman. Goku was based off of a character named sun wukong, who was a monkey who had many abilities/powers in a story called journey to the west...
@marcusbrown8036 Yes, sung wu kong the monkey king. i know that, but the storyline was also in a way heavily influenced by the supermans story. His origins him landing on earth so on so forth
You explain the most debatable, and most complicated argument in just 17 minutes. And to make it better, my childhood idol still remains on top... because that's what he is. A character who brings hope to the Dragon Ball Universe and a smile to our face.
Superman is still stronger 💀
Bro is either in denial or didn't watch the video 💀
@miftahuljannat3050 coping I seen you everywhere, lmao stay coping
@@lantzcranfordlook at your fucken pfp 💀 i am not even gonna say anything 😂
@@zainismail6346oh I did watch it and they still lowballed super 🙄 just so their boyfriend goku could win.
The dc cosmology is not 6D 💀
Fr shit got debunk easily
Haha
Bro he styl went with the high ball and superman styl got completely dog walked
@@zeacon1054DC 5d is above all geometric dimensions
So knowing that, what do you think 6d is? 😂
@@notori-di5etYeah, no. He wasn’t. He already made a counter to their debunks on his Discord. And they ran away like bitches. 🤣
There are no words to describe how badly DC cosmology get downplayed here, Goku is Starfire victim. These Goku fanboys have gone too far.
Divine is gonna be mad if he watched Death Battles take on this fight
he did
this is his response to it
That's probably why he made that video lol
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You should be mad at yourself for taking death battle serious
To be fair they used dragon ball a holy he’s using cc golu
Yt needs to give this man a raise for his editing and voice alone
“Kal-El vs Kakarot, Son Goku vs Superman” now that was a line 🔥
🤓☝️
@@Thatguy_Jes You alright in the head?
Death Battle is crying in the corner knowing that he didn't research DBZ enough to make a video about Superman vs Goku 💀💀
Death battle or this guy
@@The_waffle_houses_final_host death battle ofc they high bole superman
Like they didn't say that The world Forger was severely weakened
I don't really think a team that makes animations for fun really gives a damn that people disagree with their results, they have been doing this shit for well over a decade.
They're well used to this by now
@@joeda900 ofc they do 😑😑 it affects there reputation kinda like now a lot of ppl are making video that points out the biased on each video they make
Most of this video exposing
Death battle mistakes get so many views and each video uploaded the death battle reputation gets lower and lower
@@dragonkinganime4681 And yet, people still watches their shit and gets million of views casually.
Bias as they are, at least they're not as bias as that video 💀
The collab I been waiting for.
Drip_Sauce and official divine and Kazi.
I was so confused, but I get it now, he's not adding all versions into one instead he is looking at the feats of all different versions and adding to the main version because essentially main Superman should be able to do those feats even though he is a different version compared to them, it's like it's told from a different non cannon story, but if that Superman could do it without any amps then main Superman should be able to do it as well.
For Goku what he did was add all the feats of CC Goku into the mainline version because if CC Goku can do it then essentially the mainline can as well, this is true, because CC Goku had no amps entering dbsh, there was no strength difference he is essentially as strong as mainline Goku (CC Goku was mainline Goku added into a non cannon story) and even though the battles we're different he still ended up at the same point as mainline Goku with no extra amps or additional forms.
This is as well why, Movie abilities were added and that stuff, you can see now why it makes sense, the movie varients are no different from the original they are just added in a non cannon story and the feats they show essentially means the mainline can do the same.
And no, this obviously doesn't include things such as the universal blue feat because that was done with an amp from the universal tree, and that would also explain why Xeno Goku wasn't the one compared because that varient has SSJ4 and any technique or feat accomplished by that SSJ4 varient wouldn't count because mainline Goku doesn't have SSJ4.
For Superman, this would cancel out CAS Superman and Prime 1 million Superman, before their amps that gave them their names.
Again, the mindset, here is; since CC Goku can do this the mainline Goku should be able to as well, same for Superman since All Star Superman was able to lift 200 q-tons that would mean the mainline can do it as well.
I disagree
@@tomspeed6026did you watch the video
@gamesover660the "_the video" has already been debunked the fuck out of so stfu
Yes and it's bad. Superman destroys Goku. @@gamesover6601
@@camzyyyyyyu autistic or ur brain is slow watch it in 0.75 if u don't understand anything
Man Hats off to you, just respect and respect and endless respect for your work. The efforts that you put to your video and to make every video with getting all the info that it rightfully needs and dictating plus explaining about the whole topic and the video editing level, i just loved it, Your every video gives chills, and have that greatness and epicness that it deserves. Your Channel name defines the divinity of your content. Just Amazinggg and insaane.🔥🔥🔥♥
All the collabs in this make this way too good. they kept the correct narrator at the correct moment making this way too good
Such an awesome video! Defiantly got me convinced! Would you ever consider doing a Xeno Goku vs. Cosmic Armor Superman video as well? I figure since we saw those alternate fights in the death battle that you'd be one of the best to cover it!
Xeno. Goku. Definitely 💯. Bets. Sopar man. 🤓😎😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes I want to see this vid
Xeno scales relative to CC and CC is infinite layers into boundless vs CAS who midballs to 6D(with debunk) and 1 Layer into Boundless(without debunk) so Xeno violates in base.
@@k1eraaimingsorry to break it to you bud, the debunk is pathetic to say the least,base super man claps xeno goku
@@voidgod-ht8teare you fr
I can always tell when someone who doesn't read DC is talking about DC.this is a prime example
its nothint compared to goku lmao. combined.😂😂😂😂
@@ultimaz1565Goku is literally fodder to DC. Goku is a human from DC victims.
@@amuru5483 Lol u havent watch the video yet ?? superman is fodder without sun LOL
@@ultimaz1565goku is fodder without ki LOL
You dumbo, Goku is Universal+ in anime confirmed in ToP. @@ultimaz1565
The fact that y’all put the DC cosmology as low as 6-D and at most 3 layers into Outerversal and argue semantics and words looking for any point to downplay DC and Superman, then just go out and say the Otherworld and Dragon Ball’s cosmology is Outerversal off of some Daizenshu statements that aren’t even talking about spatial dimensions or even dimensionality in a strength or power sense is actually ridiculous 💀
they are morons.
Bro look at his profile pic …. What were you expecting
stay mad goku negs
@@user-po9fy5qo7k eh most people know Superman wins. No need to be mad about the fact some people can’t think, I just feel pity
He already wanked goku to hyperversal against saitama
Broo the editor fuckin SNAPPED on the Goku parts
HERE BEFORE 1 MILL
Hey Divine can you make a video on ben 10 pls? He is so underrated. Anyway fire vid as always
yes sir
Looking forward to the possibility of him covering Ben. Wonder which version or versions!
@@officialdivine..
But I do have 1 problem , correct me if I'm wrong though
but correlation does not mean equal to causation. Super dragon ball heroes characters is not the same as the game right? Even though they have a connection, that doesn't mean they are the same character as the cause.
even the statements for the game, it doesn't mean it's the same for the promotional anime.
Am I wrong? Pls let me know
@@officialdivine..Yo maybe u can do a Alien X vs manga Goku if u didnt yet?
@@Bab_DaChimp Alien X kills Manga Goku I'm sorry isn't no Way Manga Goku wins that just like he wouldn't here..
I’ve never seen someone so confident and wrong at the same time😂, he literally lies about the entire world forger stuff😂
All I hear is crying bc u ain't got nothing to back it up
So you're proud that strongest version of goku won agiants a normal superman? @@zeacon1054
@@zeacon1054true😂
Your YT channel is actually so goated brother.
" The bar to reach for anime " that line is🔥🔥🔥
Ikr
This dude is the most biased powerscaler I have ever seen. Read Quora answers, the most unbiased scaling is present there.
@@vn9574Been on there, no one there knows how to powerscale. I mean they're the same ones that think that saitama is stronger than goku
Drip isn’t debunking the cosmology, he’s picking and choosing which benefits his agenda (for some reason). There are more statements that go against that but it’s not my video and I already know this is a dragon ball channel so I’m not surprised. If you really gotta pick and choose how another cosmology works to make your character get a win then I’ll never believe Goku would stand a chance. It’s as ridiculous when I hear people say Goku ain’t even universal because he never actually destroyed a universe.
He barely talks about the inconsistencies on db multiverse xd
What about the part where xeno goku lost to mui goku from the manga??? Which that means he is not strong as ultra instint goku??? No, they just nerfed him so hard but he does not mentioned that. See how that inconsistent.
CC goku vs Xeno goku?
Ui cc goku always been stronger then ssj4 xeno goku. When xeno goku saw cc goku become a ultra instinct he literally said "so strong". what there is inconsistent?. Watch the damn show.@@kyordannydelvalle523
@@kyordannydelvalle523 Bro did not hear him talk at all.
@@kyordannydelvalle523He makes some arguments for his scaling but drip sucks at scaling other verses
Cant believe batman still beat him💀💀
He actually never did
He made "how strong is superman" and "how strong is cc goku" in 1 video great work divine and kazi 😊
Drip just destroyed all the Superman fanboys saying he Superman can beat goku
Edit: I may or may not have started a war in the reply section
He can't. And I'm a Goku fanboy
He can’t 💀 Superman will destroy goku 😂
Bro didn't watch the vid
@@miftahuljannat3050 Did you see the video ? Xeno Goku destroy any version of Superman 😂
@@hillrob4595 I don’t need to 😂 look at this mans pfp. Thats all you need to know. He is a goku fan boy so ofcource he is gonna be baised.
Omds I was waiting for this. It just opens my eyes to how strong cc goku is. He literally at this point doesn't even need potential he outscales potential itself.
😂😂😂😂😂 nice joke. Please make more jokes like this. You removed my depression
I just love divine’s voice…. It just sounds way too good for some reason.
All the DC fan girls showing your video love Divine 😅 Goku has been goated for years
My foot he need yo used non canon goku without non canon goku is an insect thsi vedio is so wrong in millions ways
Hoku fied by a laser beam a stupid will think goku stood a chance .that guy low ball superman and overate goku without proper research
Well this is gonna go well..
regardless of the winner XD
Edit: Collab with Drip? well damn, if yall want some fun with SSJ5 goku, ill Collab XD
Ong
This dc scaling is fucking OUTRAGEOUS and is severely lowball😭
Garlic isn’t even in the manga and hyperspace gates are 4d. Other space has time and space. Not only due to the structure of the cosmos but also having gravity and causality. Not to mention that goku who has a physical form, is moving without space, which isn’t the problem but that would mean that he’s unbounded bull such concepts yet he and vegeta can’t overcome guldo time abilities, there are many showing of goku himself still being bound by temporality so it makes no sense, but even if u don’t agree with that, cipher db, a well known db translator gave us the translation for otherworld. It’s transcends dimensions not perceivable by the human realm which makes it 5d. It don’t say it transcends the concept of dimensionality. Also things like distance can be measured so that only adds to the argument.
いわゆる "地獄 "の領域を含む幽界は、空間と時間の概念を超越している、 (The astral world, including the so-called "hell" realm, transcends the concepts of space and time, )
something looks off about that kanji of urs saying it transcends the concept of space 🤔
Now even if u accept some of the bullshit and get goku to base outer, anyone with any knowledge on dc comics knows that dc isn’t 6d. I mean I’m not even gonna start on that cause it’s just crazy, i understand like a character but completely atomizing a character cause u want goku to win is wild. The author that wrote that line saying Superman isnt affected by distance, space etc said he means that in a literal sense as Superman imbodies the concept of hope that goes against evil. DC has lower realms stated 10d so how tf is the realm of imagination 5d? It's literally realms beyond all concepts except imagination to the point where lobo had tom bring the concept of death to this realm
And almost every argument used for Superman outer and speed calcs came be used for goku is was utterly biased
3 Words *Read The Comics*
Imagine calling an dimension thats not even the highiest dimension in the cosmology outerversal 🤡
DC is 11D or even Higher its a fact of life..
@@Coldskin1 what dimension did I even call outer??????
@@VegetaManners that makes no sense. A realm where the challenger exist is 10d and it’s not even close to being one of the highest realms. And a single universe is infinite dimensional btw
why is official divine so cool liek every upload its a ridiculous amont of hype and i cant wait to see his channel blow up
We all still love them both 🎉🎉🎉
Bro did not have to do Saitama dirty like that 🤣😭
No I think he did the saitama fan boys who to this day think he even comes close to beating Goku needed to be humbled.
@@legendarytronic7774 yea fr
@@legendarytronic7774 Other way around
@@Brosie_Osie😭😭😭
@legendarytronic7774 I mean if saitama has the chance he can beat goku
Saitama grew to multi galaxy Or /Universal with a grain of salt in a matter of minutes against a weaker opponent.
So if he fights someone like goku his power would rise rapidly and he could surpass him
Just like broly
But if he gets blitzed and doesn't have time to grow he's dead gets negged by base goku from battle of gods
I mean the thought robot (cosmic armor Superman) has similarly boundless scaling, while certain statements of the size of the dc universe can be discredited when various gods/cosmic entities make statements on it that should probably be taken as fact, and all else being irrelevant there’s milk man Superman who despite being kinda silly in name is actually in the boundless tier as well with him being so powerful the only authority he answers to is the will of the author.
Because they are beyond boundless
Exactly I found it crazy that they went to not even cannon material with goku and only stuck with mainline Superman. Cosmic armor and 1 million Superman honestly defeats goku
@@Shin-71 arale scaling is based in toon force and can’t be used to scale other characters, plus even if you do that it is easily dismissed as an outlier given he struggles against characters far weaker then that.
Mainline/super goku (especially manga) vs mainline Superman, goku loses.
If you want to start bringing in non cannon material then Superman wins via cosmic armor/milk man/superboy prime (the last one having arguably boundless scaling with retcon punches and all that but I don’t personally advocate for that for him
Alrhough cosmic armour superman scales to 3 layers into outerversal witth irrelevant speed while goku is boundless
Nah the overvoid id outerversal not boundless.
Know thats best evidence i need thx bro your videos are the best ❤
Scale the cameraman
Also W vid the production is insane
Actually, after this video went up someone eminently debunked it. And instead of making any points against the video they decided to get there fans to dislike bomb the video.
That ending line was TOUGH. 💪💀
Superman gave divine all reasons to disrespect saitama
Huh? What does that has to do anything with saitama?
In the video he took a shot at Saitama when he was scaling Superman
@@miftahuljannat3050Goku solos Saitama and Superman
Dude , are you sure that you watched the video? Damn Ur annoying@@miftahuljannat3050
@@motivational_poet Goku is not even close to superman level
L vid personally plus debunked.
@@MCAnimationofficialI can't believe people actually think death battle is biased when there are channels like this that exist
Goku's strongest version vs Superman
Well I need another video 😅 with that guy not included
Divine 😮
W video y'all clearly a lot of research was put into this it was worth the wait 100%, the scaling, music and editing was soo freakin good, goku really has come a long way. now i wonder how about a Cosmic Armor vs Vegito\Gogeta
it's truly a divine day when he uploads ❤
Absolute Masterpiece🔥🔥🔥This is zenith content right here guys all in under 17mins.
well said bro real factz
Another thing to add to Drip's debunk is that Superman didn't even lift the book of Infinite Pages. It was Ultra-Man. The book was already floating in mid-air before Superman and Shazam touched it to absorb the knowledge, which blew them back.
Nice
No bro read that chapter. The book is always in floating. They( Superman and shazam ) lifted it and started reading and before reaching the end shazam was knocked by lightning and became child billy. Afterwards ultraman read it. And if ultraman can do it superman can too after all superman > Ultraman
@@theternalawliterally superman literally fodderized ultra man like a child.
@@theternalawexactly bro these people don’t pay attention at all
Doesn't matter anyway superman lifted a tesseract with infinite space inside, the other dude is making big assumptions with no proof but we'll see what he has to say
Some of the best editing ever. I hope this is your only job! Your content requires more effort than 99.99% of channels
This is not hard 😭 everything he uses are not him making the only good thing he makes are the transitions and the voice
@@Icekaiser dam. I cant show love. It is good content
@@FunNHonesty fr
“The man with a strength beyond the gods, vs the man with the strength that the gods cannot reach” Gotta be the rawest line I ever heard.
You win my heart man... Subscribing to the channel!! 🔥
the goat has settled the debate
Whoever Drip sauce is, was speaking out of his butt cheeks, if DC comics lore on multiverses makes zero sence who's to say Dragon Ball lore on multiverses makes any SENSE!? To Debunk official statements from DC means we can also debunk official statements from Dragon Ball as senseless, clearly he's an anime fanboy, as I'll be referred to a DC comics fanboy... Drip needs to spend some time with DC comics Grant Morrison & he'll get a better perspective Instead of thumb sucking what he'd like to call "FACTS"
Overall Goku being pierced by a simple ray gun while off guard, REALLY hurts in the long run, with Superman only exceptional beings like Doomsday can hurt whether off guard or on guard, i think this video was biased, but it is an anime channel.
They don't have that much self awareness.
they are goku fans bruh... superman easily claps goku
When Saitama sneezed an blew up Jupiter, Garou said that Saitama was still holding back.
Bro looks like you dont understand what this guy said
Sorry buddy but cc goku isn't boundless,not even close
Boundless means limitless power and it is the highest tier,there is nothing above boundless
Your telling me that cc goku is boundless?
Don't lie to yourself you really don't believe cc goku is omnipotent,omnipresent and omniscient
He is at max layers into outerversal with irrelevant speed making him still stronger than superman but he ain't freakin boundless 💀
You do know that saying any character is boundless, outerversal, or has irrelevant speed is completely fan-made with fan-made definitions for fan-made tiers, right? You even prove how pointless boundless is by saying it's just omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. Why do you need boundless if you can just say that? BTW, by that definition, no character is above boundless and no character is boundless as omnipotent is a paradox that no conceivable character can be. I know this wasn't your point, but I can't stand people using the vs battle wiki BS fanfiction tiers.
@ndvct6087 True
But their are characters who are actually boundless like one above all,one below all and the presence
I would say more but i ain't sure these three are truly boundless
Saying that cc goku is boundless is like saying he's on the same level as these three which is stupid as hell 💀
@@HeinousBG Even those characters are not truly omnipotent. Ask any omnipotent character to create a rock they can't lift. They either can't do it meaning they're not omnipotent or they can do it and made themselves no longer omnipotent. This is why it's a paradox and impossible for any character to be omnipotent by human understanding and I say human understanding because all of these characters are created by humans and human logic.
@ndvct6087 hmm...makes sense thanks bud 👍
Official Divine ready to tell the truth.
LET'S GOOO THE GOAT HIMSELF DIVINE HAS UPLOADED ANOTHER W VID BUT IT'S ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST COMPLICATED DEBATES TO HAVE EVER EXISTED!? FIRE 🔥
Grant Morrison reveals that Jack Kirby was a fan of Carl Jung's works and his book *Memories, Dreams, Reflections* and based the New gods on Jungian Archetypes. That’s what Jack Kirby wanted the New gods to based on, Grant Morrison wanted them to be based on Platonic Archetypes. Now, DC confirmed everything’s canon and the New gods are both Jungian and Platonic Archetypes, because they can be both.
I mean I like the conclusion, but realistically both of these characters are so busted you can basically pick who you want to win. Either way like to see my man goku getting some love!
"top that saitama" goes hard af
WHY ARE YALL DOING GOKU VS SAITAMA,THIS IS NOT 2021
He didnt have to do em like that😂
@@SaitamaBeatsGokuVerse🤣,
Proof??
@@SaitamaBeatsGokuVerse
What exactly are you smoking? 🚬
@@SaitamaBeatsGokuVerse now if i asked you to prove that ur gunna have a tough time 💀
@@officialdivine..nah it’s easy to prove with official scans proving saitama has infinite strength
Hey OFFICIAL DIVINE, funny thing is, in 2/3 of Goku vs Superman death battle videos they intentionally throw superman in the sun to supercharge his strength and stamina at the last moment. How can you expect to beat a difficult opponent when you have almost 0 stamina and your opponent just goes and refills himself?
By stoping them on the spot.
And I have a question for you how can he refill if he's dead already.🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠
Don't mind these comments, Goku wouldn't finish a fight early. Lmao.
Was thinking if Goku just destroys the sun. I mean we know very well he can. And after defeating a weakened superman he can just wish the sun back with dragon balls.
If we’re counting cc goku, we’re counting CAS too. CAS destroys cc goku.
honestly for me OfficialDivine carried 2023
When you said the word "who" literally gave me chills 🔥🔥🔥
@Death Battle Used dragon ball heros and acted like Normal Superman could beat CC Goku. W retaliation.
This video is sick best scaler on UA-cam keep up the good work👍
It was horrible bro the death battle sum up superman
@@greenspeedser keep yourself safe
This guy always lowballs the character that isn’t dragon ball lol
I got chills this whole video. Yall nailed it. I have a request, can u make a video on how strong is alucard from hellsing? Plz!.
1:15 "Superman's sneez is so powerful that it can rip apart solar systems" bro offended Saitama 💀💀
i cannot applaud you guys any harder, this is your magnum opus. 👏👏👏
Goku vs Superman be like: 🤓🙄🤡
Goku and Superman be like: ☕ 🍷🗿
Edit: You don't have to read all this...I just finished the video and 2 things I want to say, 1: A video on Archie Sonic would be needed at this point (for the Goku vs Sonic debates) and 2: I liked it until Heroes was brought up so now...I got to Rant:
You gon tell me that an alternate Goku from a Dragon Ball series that's Non-canon (With This DC Debunk) is stronger than every version of Superman combined, (Milk Man at full potential included), The Presence, The Darkest Knight, Dr.Manhattan, Lucifer Morningstar, the OVERVOID itself, UNKINDESS RAVEN, THE UNWRITEN LEVIANTHAN (I don't know T.U.L. is related to DC but it gon get thrown in there anyway) along with the whole verse...in BASE. I don't know if all the characters I mentioned are Canon (Like Unkindness Raven), but if not then well that's gonna lead to a point later on in my rant. And also, I'm getting the idea that Dragon ball's cosmology from SUPER (Not including Heroes) is already bigger than DC (Which just sounds like cancer, so I hope that's not what is being said here...)
Based off of this, BASE Goku can solo DC and Marvel (If Marvel's cosmology is similar DC's) which means characters like Astral-Regulator Thanos (Who isn't Canon but that doesn't matter in this Debate obviously) God of Stories Loki, Pre-Retcon Beyonder (Who got retconned but still), the One Above All, and so forth right?
This Version of Goku in BASE is stronger than every version of Sun Wukong (Nirvana Amped Wukong from Mythology included)
My point is...this video should've stuck to the Canon Source material for both Characters, cause it seems like to me that most if not all of Superman's feats (Including the character himself) are Canon while the feats for Goku in the later half of the video come from a series that's Non-Canon and not only that, but is an Alternate Version of said Goku, and you see here's my problem...
That's not fair and dishonest [plus in my opinion that's cheating] Why couldn't this video be Canon Superman vs Canon Goku (Manga Goku, you know...the one that got No-Diffed by BLACK Frieza). That would have been better because from a writing standpoint, the very concept of Dragon Ball Heroes is just bad (Which is why the fans want the actual CANON Story to be animated instead. The writers of DC could make the cosmology so big that it could rival SCP, Even WOD if they wanted but you see that's not the point, and it doesn't add any substance to the stories they write, plus it just messes stuff up and the whole thing would have to get retconned anyway. This is why Superman be admitting he is not stronger than this person or that person cause he ain't written to be most powerful thing in existence, he is written to be the symbol of hope, the good that triumphs over evil type of thing (Goku carries this type of energy to, but not nearly as much).
This is how CAS "Defeated" Mandrakk. Even though it seemed like Mandrakk got imprisoned, and CAS straight up died, he wrote on his grave "To be continued" Implying that Superman's story WILL continue and it did. This is why Mandrakk was defeated and was never mentioned again in any serious manner, he was a threat to Superman's story, and the Story of Superman will ALWAYS continue.
CAS represented the very concept of Superman himself and what he represents not only in the story, but also represents to the people who read it. That's how he could "Hear" Lois's heartbeat and "Feel" the reader breathing and flipping the pages, and why he tried to "Reach out" to the reader which led to one of the Coldest Comic Book Panels of ALL TIME. STUFF IS DEEP
EVERYONE and EVERYTHING was RELYING on Superman (A.K.A CAS) in that moment. DC itself revolves around Superman's story in a way, with out superman there is no DC.
Dragon Ball Heroes is written with characters and events that looked like they have been ripped from some fanfiction I don't know about, with corny stuff that is so ludicrous I can't even take the show seriously (which is the reason why it ain't canon in the first place, the very Concept of the Heroes itself is just mid for some, and BAD for others)
CC Goku being as strong as he is "Does 👏Not 👏Make 👏Sense👏". The actual narrative that unfolds, especially with the fact the characters are like some Yu-gi-oh trading cards or something (which is the only reason why he is getting scaled to being some metafictional being) is pure brain rot and is just so stupid to me that I can't take any feats from CC Goku seriously cause narratively speaking "He 👏Shouldn't 👏Be 👏That 👏Strong👏".
Keeping in mind that Stan Lee Quote, CC Goku feats and accomplishments don't have any weight to them, and thus are not satisfying because everything gets blown out of proportion so much to the point that I might as well be in a fever dream, it breaks my immersion. Cause it seems like Goku went from 0 to infinity with no effort evolved and no real meaningful stakes to have, plus the whole situation doesn't have any emotion, or weight attached to it. If Goku is boundless...there is no point in continuing the story, but the story will continue because the writers have written themselves into a HOLE and need stronger and stronger villians. This is very much true for the manga because Goku has become so strong that people need to wish to be the strongest now, it's dumb.
CC Goku loses the satisfaction of what he supposed to stand for, while Superman doesn't
All of this is to say that disregarding the manga and bringing in feats from a series that's not canon is a low blow and cheap cause non-canon material doesn't care about being consistent and reasonable most of the time. So of course Goku gon be this strong cause the writers don't care about being consistent with original source material and don't even realize that people are gonna to get crazy and going to start scaling stuff and try to apply math when the stuff wasn't even written with that in mind in the first place.
So in conclusion...Goku ain't beating Superman in any serious scenario because from a writing standpoint, Superman is hope itself and the story itself relies on him succeeding sometimes.
And that's my opinion, people can call me retarded and say the video is Fax, but I'm not taking heroes seriously because I do not care about it's story or characters because it never gave me a reason to, if CC Goku is that strong...then what's the point?
Superman represents concepts far beyond Goku and is a complex character in that regard with achievements you can feel good about, Conon Goku is similar but CC Goku is not, CC Goku doesn't not have any meaningful reason to be that strong while Superman does.
And if you like a particular character more cause they're simply "Stronger", then you are missing out.
I like Superman more because of what he represents and that's why he wins, couldn't care less about what anyone else thinks...😒
Both Saitama's Victims. Lol.
@@KiraYBAofc a wild braindead midtamatard
@@KiraYBAwatch his video on Goku vs saitama
@@KiraYBA We both know that's far from true ☠️
@@KiraYBA superman by himself solos
Epic W
Wow this the most ill-researched downplay I’ve ever seen of Superman, and I’ve seen AnimationRewind’s crap. Neither you or Drip know anything about Kal-El.
tough good to see another video divine!
A truly good day when divine uploads
As soon as I heard drip, I knew some bias was cooking
Great Video :D
Drip played more of a semantics game and his argument is tantamount to saying it's nonsensical for Goku to have ran the infinite path in heaven because completing an infinite track is inherently impossible.
Effectively every argument he had against Superman is equally if not even more so applicable to Goku due to how much contradictory/redundant feats the ever increasing power-creep ontroduced.
I will say though with the advent of Heroes, Goku likely does come out on top in most fights.
"Completing an infinite track is inherently impossible" that's false it's conceivable therefor it's logically possible lmao Logically possible things can occur within fiction ur first point doesnt really amount to much and 2ndly yeah because dc tards are presupposing the connotation of which the characters are claiming and even then the claims have nothing external validating them such as batmans archetype claim so it really doesnt entail a truth value
Goku caps at 4D,CC Goku at 6D, they lose either way
"Completing an infinite track is inherently impossible" that's false it's conceivable therefor it's logically possible lmao Logically possible things can occur within fiction ur first point doesnt really amount to much and 2ndly yeah because dc tards are presupposing the connotation of which the characters are claiming and even then the claims have nothing external validating them such as batmans archetype claim so it really doesnt entail a truth value
"Completing an infinite track is inherently impossible" that's false it's conceivable therefor it's logically possible lmao Logically possible things can occur within fiction ur first point doesnt really amount to much and 2ndly yeah because dc tards are presupposing the connotation of which the characters are claiming and even then the claims have nothing external validating them such as batmans archetype claim so it really doesnt entail a truth value
@@srnova9486shut the fuck up nova, we slammed you multiple times on this
When they first announced round 3 I knew goku was going to lose, but then i heard they were using heroes and I was like “Superman gonna die” then they proceeded to not use a single heroes feat while giving superman all of his new and overestimated feats.
Thanks for finally giving it the real answer
Yeah they use heroes goku but never ever mentioned his feats Lol and they use some superman overestimate feats 😂😂😂
so true
Yeah that's true death battle hyped us by saying they gonna include heroes feats but in the end it was just anime goku and did not even show us TUI
Shows you didn't pay attention to the analysis. Also they low balled Superman as well just to make it less of a slaughter.
They literally put heroes goku and superman one million prime 😂😂u didn't watch the fight did u?
*Argue semantics with DC*
*Proceeds to take every statement every in Dragon Ball to the most hyperliteral it can get*
🥺 "But that's not cannon!"
😕 "What version of your Superman is cannon?"
Infinite frontiers which made past mainline continuities canon (except sbp, prime 1 mil, cas and else world's stuff etc)
@@soupahsanic6790 I don't know what any of that is, but it sounds complicated and cool.
@@zombathinlostleghackercat5233 based statement 🗿
@@zombathinlostleghackercat5233 Ye The Canonicity can very from most Superman Versions but technically they can be all considered canon thanks to the fact DC is Infinite..
Yet another banger released by the goat of power scaling that even has other goats of power scaling
They just give Superman every power to ever be had and just say it’s cause of the sun 😭
It actually is tho from what Ik is if u remove the yellow sun then he has no powers like his race thats y they never survived krypton’s destruction. If there was a yellow sun near krypton then every kryptonian should’ve survived
We can literally see that superman crossed the universe in a second and sun dipped superman obliterates goku
Nah your videos get me so hyped
My boy divine at it again major W, also much appreciated for the follow on tiktok
Hell yeah just what I've been waiting for.
I love your video's.
This video was only made to cash in on the disappointed Goku fans after Death Battle was over.
Look man I’m a Goku fan and all but ain’t no way he beating the guy who flew past infinity, tanked omega beams and punch a man so hard they felt it in different dimensions 💀
You didn't watch the video did you? 😂
Yes, and I stand by my point that you are delusional if you think my boy Goku is beating Superman
@YourNemesis361 I know there's versions where Goku will lose, but I'm not dillusional enough to say that there isn't a version of Superman that Goku can't beat. The ones who are dillusional are the ones who believes this. I'm also only talking about Canon Goku here.
Of course, Goku solos all other versions of supes easily no doubt, but the main one not so much…
@YourNemesis361 the main one that I only consider is the original, created by Siegel and Shuster. But to each their own. No one will truly win in this battle of characters.
Love the vid! Great job as always, but I gotta be honest with you Divine, some bias was shown, even allowing Comp Supes all his 'incorrectly' scaled feats you scale him at 3 layers outversal, but in the cosmic armor supes, he alone scaled 4 layers. Though I guess you could say it's debatable to allow him in comp? Deathbattles had included it and it seems only fair to include all feats on both sides if we're talking about the absolute peak of both characters, as comp usually does. I also think introducing a downscaled interpretation of the DC universe wasa bit odd, but definitely looking forward to Drips video on it! Most other video and scalers i've seen support a stronger verse in scaling, but i always enjoy interpretations and scalings!
No disrespect to any of y'all or even arguing any of the feats. Obviously if CC Goku is boundless, like you said anything outside of a reliable boundless feat is pointless.
Once again great video man and no disrespect! I have 0 clue the work and time it takes to gather and scale feats. As often as I browse feat and scaling forms I find your definitely one of the best and most reliable scalers ive seen and the videos are always fire. Also maybe a fun idea to look into that I've seen very little scalers mention or use: Strange Visitor Superman. Idk if that'd change the argument at all in anyway he's just a cool conceptual very powerful supes thats often overlooked!
Cosmic Armor is a different type of battle as it isn't really Superman. Its a Thought Robot controlled by a fused essence of Superman and Ultraman. Essentially its a fusion of 3 concepts and its makes that match unfair.
I love goku and I favor him above all else, and I totally agree; there was bias shown.
u say it should be fair when yet divine gave superman every benefit of the doubt, and deathbattle did not include feats on both sides, they took comp goku and butchered him, didnt even go into detail of xeno goku's feats, and didnt even talk about cc goku much at all who scales above xeno goku. Goku has been downplayed for too long, bro back in z against frieza it was stated he was a threat to the universe and goku put him down which means goku has been universal since dbz. comp superman is powerful, but not more powerful than comp goku
@@supersaiyan23130I understand that, this video was in response to DBs video because Divine thought their scaling was poor, but regardless I'm not trying to change the outcome of this argument. Just pointing out a clear bias Imo. It defeats the purpose of trying to present an unbiased opinion/evidence/scaling when you're simply biased towards the side that most people aren't biased towards.
@@bartold7080and I get that, which is why I mentioned myself that it can be debated whether it is or isn't unfair, but if we're talking peaks of both characters, it seems only fair, as even in current DC it has made all previous iterations canon. More over, the other Supermen that were used were still Supermen.. variations of the OG Supes. Id think that's still comp. I mean CC Goku is xenoverse and Heroes which is completely separated from canon DB but we're still including his feats because we'll.. it's comp
That ending went crazy 😂 bro once again your editing skill really pulls me into the video 💯 Superman fan boys crying😂
didnt know the title of the video should’ve been superman vs cc goku
The Camaraman: "Pfft, cute."
Okay so I have something to talk about. I’ve been working on writing my own manga for about a year now. I’ve got my start, my middle, and my ending. It’s just me working on it so basically all of these ideas are my own. My MC’s name is “Sebastian Maude” (pronounced Mawd). He has blood manipulation and can create weapons from coagulated blood, barriers, projectiles, as well as, being able to manipulate blood to the very atom and being able to create a fog that when inhaled can shut down someone’s body within seconds. He can only do this after injuring himself to manifest his abilities first. He can also ingest blood from other animals and take on some of their attributes. Like a crab claw, a bird beak, or an elephant’s trunk. He can enhance his body through amplifying his blood flow like Gear 2 Luffy but to even higher extremes. He can also use his soul’s Radiance to force his will into reality. Manipulating probability and reality itself to bend to his will. This isn’t even his most powerful stage yet. By the end of the series he encounters a town of mysterious beings known as “The Camorans” (Cuh- More- Ins). The beings are the observers of infinity, even being able to watch and record the real world through their eyes. These people were beyond comprehension, but they display themselves as humans with cameras for heads. Sebastian Slaughters all of them and leaves only the audience to view him, as he is unaware of their presence. He breaks this realm above all and lands in an a mysterious orchard of massive trees. Each one with a name plate of some kind. He goes by and reads some of these plates. “DC, Marvel, Dragon Ball, Black Clover, Demon Slayer, Berserk, The Call of Cthulhu”. He had no idea what these trees were but he looked back and saw the one he’d sprouted from was withering away. He passes through to the edge of the tree line and sees a man in his chair watching TV. The man turns off the TV and stands up, then turns around. His head wasn’t normal. It was replaced by a book of some kind. He walks over to Sebastian and puts his hand on his shoulder. A vision begins. This Starless Void they were in was the origin of all. However, this Book man predated even this realm. He announces himself as, “THE AUTHOR”. He explains that his face is in ordinary in function. Every tree within this orchard was once a page in his head. He wrote each one as another little story in his head. Then one day he tore a page out and it flew away. It sprouted into a tree of infinite branches and realms further than the eye could see. THE AUTHOR repeated this until he had a whole slew of different trees. Some were small and some were incomprehensibly large. He came to give each one a name upon the plates he created. Predating Fiction and even the real world itself, THE AUTHOR has sat waiting to have someone else to take his place. He wipes the realm clean as the trees all disappear, and even the very realm around them vanishes. THE AUTHOR wanted to see to it that his successor was worthy, and deciding so he removes his own head from his shoulders as it lands in Sebastian’s hands as he feels a new surge of understanding rush over him. He turns back and returns the realm and the trees to their original form. He then turns to the audience and reaches a hand out. Absorbing them in the process. He splits himself in 2 and says, “Well, you wouldn’t want any spoilers. Right?” And kills the audience and begins to write the rest of Fiction itself as he sees fit.
But I wouldn’t know who to scale that properly… I’m not asking for a full video on it but I’d like some general advice on where he would stand against people like Goku, or Saitama for example.
Ok
Making a story purely to power scale it would immediately fail
@@tadrosse3786 I didn’t mean it like that. I didn’t make him conquer Fiction just to be strong. I just kind of arrived at the ending. That’s literally the final chapter and not even the most likely dozens before it. Judging something off such small information is just a bad way of viewing something. And yes I didn’t give you much, but that’s literally the last part of the entire series. And it’s not like it’s going to come out soon. Since it’s just me working on it it’ll be probably over a decade or two at a minimum.
So what’s the story itself like? Cause it sounds like a commentary on fiction itself and the audience. I wish you success on it. If the story is fun and good, people will definitely come to it.
6d DC, is wild downplay.
Yeah it might be wild, but he ended up going with the highball version of Superman's feats. And Superman still lost, cause CC Goku is 10-11D at base
@@yessir7315 Still nothing in comparison to Superman there's a reason why Superman holds back 90% of the time.
@VegetaManners That didn't happen with World Forger tho. He gave everything he had there with multiple amps ontop of tht. Meanwhile CC Goku did the same feat in his base, at his weakest. CC Goku defeated Fu, a being that transcends the charisma world that even view Beats world as FICTION. Universal Blue CC Goku is boundless as he is not bound to any abstract concepts. CC Goku has conceptual manipulation and a hundred other hax that makes him ridiculous. Super Dragon Ball Heroes has one of the worst plot in anime history but the characters there are just ridiculously broken.
@@yessir7315 Once again if he's *"Boundless"* why didn't he just beat his Opponents Instantly? Also if he is *"Boundless"* in your Eyes explain the Requirements of *"Boundless"* so I can see if you understand them?. Also that's in his own Continuity but that doesn't stretch to others what Dragon Ball perceives as infinite is not what DC perceives. (Example: *"What's 5D in DB isn't 5D in DC."* )
(He isn't *"Boundless"* we don't even grant *"Omnipotent"* Characters *"Boundless"* that's a Tier even beyond The Strongest in Fiction only a Rare Few are in that Tier most of them are Marvel, DC, Mythos, Religion, Cartoons, Oddities, Games and Crazy Fanfics.)
@@yessir7315 Once again the Feat Superman did was heavily Downplayed in this Video as World Forger was behind the Creation of the Multiverse with other Beings of immense you do realize that Creating a Verse of Multi Complex Abstracts is greater then Destroying right? not only is it pathetic that he thinks that's Superman's Top Feat its illogical as we actually have Much Stronger ones like High Fathers Staff pulled out the Source Wall or the Fact Superman was so Powerful he broke through Infinity itself or the Fact Hope is said to Rival Creation itself and Beyond.
seeing a challenger's deep of misnfo making fun of goku and his race and saying bs like "suer man wins" and people wanking superman so much
this is refreshing
for once
you are the only person who says his facts right and shows who really wins
tell me
who wins
a rat (superman) or a lion? (goku) yeah.......
A lion beats a rat, but rats will outlive lions, and Superman wins. Pretty much all power scalers get their facts wrong. This is just your confirmation bias.
@@ndvct6087 a small tiny animal that a human can kill in the tons out lives one of the most dangerous hunters in the wild T_T'
sure superman fanboy.. sure....
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 Rats are some of the most resilient and intelligent creatures in the world numbering in the billions. Lions are endangered and on the verge of extinction. Yeah, rats are going to outlive lions. Apparently "Superman fanboy" means being more intelligent and using better logic than Goku fanboys. Yeah that seems to be the case most times.
Please, do a " How strong is CC Goku " Video, your editing skills are awesome. I'd love to see that!