THE TRUTH: Goku Vs Saitama | Who Would Win?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 21 гру 2024
- Wassup guys it’s Divine
Today we’re going to be diving into the age old matchup, the debate of the strongest, who would win between son Goku from dragon ball, and Saitama from one punch man? Is the fight closer than any of us could’ve predicted? Or does the fight end in one punch?
My social media
・officialdivinee on tiktok
・ ...
Tags: #anime #animes #manga #mangas #dbz #dbs #db #onepiece #naruto #bleach #baki #goku #onepunchman #scaling #officialdivine #youtube #shorts #youtubeshorts #vs #comics #comic #marvel #dc #marvelcomics #dccomics #F #viral #blowthisup #viral #viralvideo #blowthisup #gaming #videogames #kratos #asura #sunwukong #doomslayer #fiction #doom #doometernal #spiderman #batman #officialdivine #bloodwarning
・Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
No intended copyright infringement this is all educational
"The unstoppable force wasn't unstoppable to begin with.... It just hasn't met Goku yet." 🔥🔥
That was 🔥🔥🔥 fr
strawman, strawman, strawman!!!
I got chills like crazy🤯
Saitama beats goku obv, the only thing is he is meant to be just an op character... goku isn't, he trained
No cap when he said "he just hasn't met goku yet" had me out here like Gawd damn
no matter who you think wins can we agree this guy's editing is 10/10
(Lol didn't think a random comment like this would do so well)
No cap
True
To make it more worse for saitama
Bro wasn’t versing manga goku
These debates are weird one of these characters has been around for 40 years while the other has been around for 11 of course there will be a huge gap in between the two seemingly limitless characters. It’s only been recently that we have seen saitama grow in strength since the beginning of the manga where as goku is constantly growing and being pushed to greater heights.
@@CapeTownCobra that logic makes no sense lol the misfits of demon academy is 6 years old and anos is already stronger than goku and saitama combined
The part when the gods stood up in admiration for Goku always gives me chills bro
Me too :D
Meh
Still beerus negs goku
@@zaedzain390 for now
But later, its gonna change
Meanwhile Piccole destroying planets at power level 238 at the start of dbz 💀 how can you even compare saitama to Goku.
Dbz powerscalong is built different
Goku: grows hair to get stronger
Saitama: loses hair to get stronger
But he doesn’t lose hair to get stronger since he doesn’t got any to lose
@Soccer4life2 ssj 3 explains it
@@WhiteBigKing I said Saitama not goku💀 u good bro?
@@Soccer4life2dayam that was wild
The ungodly wit behind this comment is insane
" The only way to match Saitama's Power, Is To Match Saitama's Power " Damn thats a badass line dude
Everything he said was badass ngl
@@MinhMinh-ho5up lol true
@@voi_editz yay my guy
@@Sigmaturtlevibin same pfp lol we bros
“The only way to fix your capitalization, is to fix your capitalization.” Nah bro who said that?
You are very underated tbh i dont even have words to express the quality you have put in these kinds of vids
Fs just found this video and boy was it amazing. Very detailed
@@kingofheroes1746facts no printer lol
Ngl. I zoned out and thought you were rapping anime lore over the beat 😂 really good video 👍👍
I am officially a fan. This is your 3rd video I've watched. Not many content creators hold up to your narration, explanation, and editing. Awesome work bro!
I also like his goated content
“The match up between a man with the power of a God vs the mortal with a form that gods cannot reach.” Answered this whole debate.
lmao i dunno who watched full vid.....
bro i mad the reply based on what he said, i also watched the vid, and i know goku is another lvl, but he makes point so as a joke i said who watched the full video??? @EthanTheFnFCharter
Exactly dude you got it😂
True
saitama is mortal. He was a basic human. goku born with predisposal saiyen things. God in one punch man and in db don't mean the same
"It just hasn't met Goku yet"
I shouldn't be smiling that much holy shit
I got chills, this video literally made stand up and sit down
Well goku die a lot of times while saitama is undefeated the outcome of fights is clear saitama win
Yea died against opponents who could destroy galaxies or even the universe, saitama hasn’t fought anyone with universal strength so goku still wins.
@@azxykook2379😂😂😂
@@flamingnacho6845 you know saitama is opposite of goku, Goku need to power up just to defeat his enemy while in saitama his opponent is the one need to power up jus to defeat him I feel bad for goku though
2:41 sounded like he was rapping
Lol true
so true
Lol true
Fr😂😂
Fr😂😂😂😂
I like how both characters use hair to determine how powerful they are.
No
Bro you had no reason to go this hard with edits and the voice is chilling. Got yourself a sub
This dudes endings quotes are stronger than goku at this point
10:00 “His will not to die allows him to tap into something..Well” That was so fire
GT Collab finna hit harder
@@officialdivine.. finna take longer than the Xeno goku
@@officialdivine..Here is my scale son Goku
Strength:Buu is low multiversal to multiversal because dragon ball universe has 4d dimension and Buu was going destroy it stated by Goku and it doesn't matter how long it would take but Goku literally stated that he could destroy it and including makai world which is 5d so overall they are low multiversal to high muilversal.then in dbs Goku was going destroy the whole universe 7 macrocosm which contains 4d sized dimensions and makai world which is 5d sized dimension which makes dbs Goku low complex multiversal or 6d.then Goku gets even stronger through dragon ball absorbing that into his base ssjg power and learns powers.when Goku fights Goku black he rips a whole space and time which a 7d feat or complex multiversal feat because time and space is dimension higher than universe 7 macrocosm.when Goku fights Jiren who surpassed infinite zamasu that covered all the universe and multiverse and travels into the past as well puts him in 8d in power or higher.jiren easily surpassed that and shock infinite sized dimension that was stated to bigger than every macrocosm in the multiverse because multiple god of destruction fought in there they weren't even breaking or barely shaking the dimension but Jiren came in showed his power shock whole dimension without trying making him 8d to 9d and Goku does same thing in ui and then transformed into mui and completely surpassed him and overwhelmed him easily putting him 10d or high 9d,high complex to low hyperversal.jiren then transformed and kept up with Goku and somewhat overpowered him but overall.dbs at top at full power is high complex to low hyperversal.9 to 10.broly and gogeta breaking reality is relevant to Goku and jiren.dbs Goku in the manga is busted because the Enemys that they fight are busted Goku fights Moro who easily surpassed Jiren and broly who are high complex multiversal to low hyperversal making Moro low hyperversal to hyperversal,then granola surpassed him making him hyperversal to high hyperversal.gas surpassed him making him high hyperversal because he is no where near low outer and Goku in tui is stronger than granola but somewhat near gas so overall Goku in the anime in strength is high complex to low hyperversal.manga Goku is hyperversal to high hyperversal.
Speed:Goku is hella fast in dbz he traveled heaven in matter of days and heaven is infinite sized dimension which makes Goku have infinite speed and Goku gets even faster in dbs when he clashes with Beerus,elder kai stated that is would destroy macrocosm within a instant making him have infinite to imeasurable speed but he gets faster able to fight hit that has similar speed to him and making time around shift a way we're get fractions of second to hit Goku when can't then Goku had adapt to get faster then he does overwhelms him just speed and strength making have immeasurable speed.
Durability:same as strength
Iq: having iq 76 he is pretty dumb of obvious things like marriage and etc.
Battle iq: having excellent biq because he fights gods and other beings with millions of experience in fighting and outsmarts them in fighting
Experience:around 50 something and started fight around 7-8 years old
Skill:very skilled martial artist
Abilities and haxs:flight,ki Abilities like shooting energy attacks, energy barries, sensing people presents, energy enhancements, energy manipulation, teleportation, adaptability, transformations, telekinesis, telepathy, spiritual attacks like spirit bomb with attacks the evil in ones heart and etc because of the manga adding abilities I can't list all of them
Stamina:peak athletic human because he can fight hours on end but has sleep,eat, drink at max maybe a day of fight straight on with no food,water,sleep or Break
Endurance:can take hella pain taking on characters beat the living shit him like Frieza when they first met,Jiren,Moro,hit,and etc putting him life or death conditions but kept fighting especially Moro and gas.
Overall anime Goku scale
Strength: complex multiversal to low hyperversal
Speed: infinite to imeasurable speed
Durability: complex multiversal to low hyperversal
Iq and biq: already explained above
Abilities and haxs: already explained above
Endurance and stamina: explained above
Manga Goku:
Strength:low hyperversal to hyper
Speed: immeasurable to irrelevant speed
Durability: low hyperversal to hyperversal
Iq and biq: already explained above
Abilities and haxs: already explained above and there way more abilities and haxs in the manga but to many go over or we have way too much words for explaining
Endurance and stamina: already explained above
Goku is pretty busted
@@officialdivine.. Because you've already displayed that you won't research canon and prefer to headcanon, that you won't listen to anything I type, nor debate me.
I will keep it short and to the point.
To summarize how much you headcanon and downplayed Saitama in this video:
"However Boros is different, yada yada".
Meanwhile the entire contents of the encounter between them: Saitama casually negs.
Boros last words from anime: You lie. You had strength to spare. I NEVER STOOD A CHANCE. IT WASN'T EVEN A BATTLE.
Boros last words from manga: You liar. You were still holding back. As if you didn't bare your fangs at all, during this whole battle...Fufu...Prophecies can't be trusted at all. You are way too strong.
As such it's clear as day that Saitama could have one shot him, at any given point and time that he wanted. Just like he done and shown he could have done with ALL his opponents, no exclusions. With canon proofs all over the place.
Saitama IS LITERALLY not even figuratively(that you use for Goku or whomever) both immovable object/invulnerable and unstoppable force/nothing can stop him or even hinder him. Meanwhile Goku is absolute inconsistent fodder that even Awakened Garou 1st form would speed blitz according to canon given speedfeats/timestamps from both OPM and DBS ToP Goku vs Hit.
DBS chapter 81: Goku(not even in base form- he is transformed) struggles and sweats to avoid and not get hit/hurt from mere parts of buildings and a train thrown at him from Gas. He struggles to get up on the train's roof.
Meanwhile other characters hype up and consider impressive the fact that Gas with his telekinesis/magic was able to lift a train, stating : "Gas can send super huge things flying now? Love it!". Like bruh...If lifting a train is considered impressive feat and if the size of a train is also considered an impressive size and as "super huge", then Tatsumaki or Psychorochi(whom easily lifted earth's crust of continental or multi continental size) from OPM solos or is high challenge for Goku and Elder Centipede among other monsters is far beyond what's considered impressive size and "super huge".
You: "GoKu iMmOvAbLe oBjEcT" , yeah sure...That's why he struggles and gets hurt all the time from all sorts of fodder things. That's why he loses and dies. That why he needs tons of help from friends, family, ex foes ect ect~ all day, every day.
For example with Gas right there, he had Vegeta's, Granola's and few other characters help and he still struggled hardcore. What an "imMovAbLe beast" amIrite??? LOL
Saitama had a vs against Tatsumaki recently, which looked overall much more impressive than Goku vs Gas and Saitama was narrated as "effortlessly unharmed".
@@Reno hold on you wanna debate? that’s the only thing i read. we can run it on cord
finally someone who explains well why goku beats saitama, W video and editing
" Ending a fight in 0 punches. "
kicks:
Nah, but the mechanics of this type of punch is super interesting. Give me a second to explain
You know what. It’s very simple to explain. Saitama launches a punch outside of any preconceived notion of reality within a realm that after the point of rewinding, is no longer accessible. Even in consideration with time travel, this “tube” as I’ll call it, has very specific parameters to be met in order for it to be accessible, and because the events in order to access it have either been passed or removed, it is no longer accessible. As such, the “tube” collapses, removing itself from reality, meaning anything that happened within the “tube” is also removed from reality, including the initiation of the 0 punch. This means it’s an inescapable and unavoidable punch, as it’s instant within our notions of reality. While we the viewers might be able to create a timeline based on the recorded events, this is like a 4d character having access to time as though it were a spacial dimension, witch would implicate a whole mess of stuff.
So while we can determine a cause and affect, that’s a result from an external view of the world. Internally, this moment would have no initiation
"because the unstoppable force was not unstoppable to begin with, it hasn't met Goku yet" this line is the perfect way to describe the power Goku possesses.
Opm manga had not yet ended Saitama had the potential to surprass goku
@@Ratedsuperstar4497 neither has the db manga ended yet so what's yah point
@laxaria7872 how bout we debate why you think this
@@virtuoftheTaoist but Saitama had more potential than goku he just do some basic exercise and look at him
@@Ratedsuperstar4497 it took Goku 45 minutes to learn a technique that took the gods millions of years to learn yet they still fail
bruh why is this a debate. Saitama is strong in his own world just like Levi is strong in his own world. Goku in the babidi saga was able to travel 33,314 times faster than the speed of light and this is without instant transmission.
It’s a debate coz some retards can’t accept the fact that goku solos so it’s gonna be ongoing
Who tf calls the buu saga "babidi saga"
@@BananaSlayer666 prob before buu got awoken
@@BananaSlayer666 LOL
babidi saga is crazy
The fact that this guy didn't even mention manga Goku proves that Goku is way more powerful too.
They had to give Saitama manga and goku still solos in the cell ark
I have only watched OPM’s two seasons and have never watched DBZ. I always thought that Saitama could beat Goku with ease but after this guy explained everything in this ONE video. I’m amazed.
You deserve more recognition especially for your editing! I have now realised Goku can beat Saitama easily.
Someone's got light
omg finally someone mentally stable
Why?
@@rohemasgg are you asking why for why I haven’t watched DBZ or are you asking it for why I thought that Saitama could beat Goku some time ago?
@@thelivelysam3271 exactly, why
This is the first time there's been a full review of both of them, usually there's only half a review of 1 of the characters, now I understand that I've been wrong for a long time now
You a real one
W Reflecting
2 goats under 1 comment.
You have a logical brain that is not afraid to deny the fact that a character is more stronger than the other, most fans are extremely biased and would refuse to believe that their character could possibly get solo'd, great respect to you for not being such an in denial fan and would admit they were in the wrong!!
Same
„A move that not even the One Punch Man can do“ is a really really cool sentence.
(One Punch Man makes this move)
Im actually stunned by the dick sucking levels over bad fanfiction writing LOL
13:32That line was cold af🥶🥶😅
We got a funny guy here
We got a meat rider here. Saitama negs goku EZ
@@alexcruz-gt3uo actually
@@alexcruz-gt3uobro did not watch the video
@@alexcruz-gt3uo
X FUCKING D who is a meat rider here you don't wach video don't you he shows you low and hight ends for sitama and he do the same think for goku
The manga editor solos both of them with 1 finger while being in 3rd dimension and being a mortal. Can't beat that.
🤓
🤓
not with 1 finger bro
🤓
lamest comment I ever read so far
Your voice and the way you put your sentences together is just masterclass. Keeps me hooked on the whole video.
Right?! I was just about to comment this after realising 8 minutes have somehow passed by.
Right
Great now that you straight up said that Goku can scale to outer, most people won't be quick to deny it like in the previous video. Even though it should have been obvious that he scaled to Outer from the previous video. But downplayers never want to give up
Search up itachi vs goku, it’s actually stupid
@@SAWWYYY I just looked it up, and sadly your turns out that you're right, it is stupid
@@gamerforever300 wait it has been debunked???
@@lightmohamed5700 No it hasn't
@@SAWWYYY goku>>
I don't really care who's stronger •_• Thier both still GOATS
It's their btw 😅
Finally someone who doesn't like wars :)
@@IkerGalvan-pg5eg thx bro my auto correct did that like wtf😭💀😅
@@KavishMahajan-s7t FAX
I have no enemies.
the only correct answer
*I'm a saitama fan bcuz i want it to beat goku* 🤡
*I'm a saitama fan bcuz i love the manga* 🗿
Facts technically he already can
@@jasonholmes7127 Did ya even watch the vid?
@@jasonholmes7127 yap yap
@@ilikecheesecakes23is multi Galaxy bruh Goku in true Ultra Instinct is High complex multiversal this is not cap bro
@@DaddyNanu saitama canNOT beat goku bro
By far the best breakdown for this pointless matchup, you earned yourself a subscriber.
It's not a POINTLESS match up, they are both two of the most powerful cannon characters in fiction.
@@sherkan-games1609 dude saitama isn't close to the strongest characters as he has finite strength, the characters that are listed teh strongest should be those with complex multiversal strength+ and saitama is far far lower
@@Game0saur_how about we just don’t argue about it at all because most of the OPM universe has even been revealed yet so we really have no clue how far Saitama can really go. Why can’t the fanbases just get along and respect both characters equally.
@@MrMafia400 we do its just that some characters scale lower than others, it has nothing to do with how much we like a character
@@Game0saur_ well right now, Saitama would scale lower, mainly because we have no clue how far he can go with his strength. Goku on the other hand has been around for literal decades and much of his power has been revealed already.
Crazy how he mentioned Saitama from the Manga but Goku from "only" the anime.
It would be more of a dogwalk to see post Granolah Goku VS Saitama
Weren't they fighting at faster then instantaneous movement at one point aswell 😂🔥🔥🔥
up until the tournament of power the anime is more cannon than the manga also most of gokus feats are the anime not the manga
@@animoments8969 That's not quite true. Goku still has his feats in the Manga. Otherwise all this wouldn't be cannon. Like the Time Skip thing and the fist clash with beerus etc.
@@SpeedWeed0073 i said MOST not all his feats are the anime. thers only one feat which is in the manga and not the anime( up uuntil the tournament of power)
@@animoments8969 Give me an example
His EDITING Is Just UNBELIEVEABLE
Bro This Man not only sounds better but explains and shows evidence better than DEATH BATTLE
Death battle is biased asl
My ass its baised statements not the actual one. He took a lot of time baising on goku rather than proving.
@@maverickrens7832💀💀💀
@@gambianinstituteofsciencea253fr
@@maverickrens7832 he’s not biased he’s just reasonable Goku is infinitely stronger
"The Unstoppable Force was never unstoppable to begin with, it just hasn't met Goku yet." 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️
The serious fart had me dead☠️
Yo divine thanks for the vid,it helped me with an argument with some guy who keeps saying saitama has instant speed and that he’s 5th dimensional thanks for the help! Also your vids are peak
The instant speed thing is obviously just blatantly fan wank. However, the 5d thing is a fun thing to bring up. Being higher dimensional doesn't mean you have higher attack potency. It just means you have the possibility of higher destructive capacity (since you can effect things in those other dimensions, instead of being limited to the 3 normal dimensions.). So, even though in the recent manga, you can absolutely make the argument that Empty Void, and Saitama are 5th dimensional (though those arguments aren't as solid as OPM fans would want you to believe.), EV doesn't actually have any feats that are even hitting planet level. He can be as high dimensional as he wants, but without attack potency feats, all that does is give him more versatility in the directions he can move in.
That being said, even if we made that poor assumption that Saitama was 5d in existence, AP and durability, it wouldn't really matter in this context. 5d is a joke in Dragon Ball cosmological scaling, and considering that characters are capable of casually wiping out the macrocosm, their AP and durability are well beyond those levels as well. At the end of the day, the whole Empty Void feat is just the next thing that happened, and OPM fans are going to claim that "this is the feat that proves that Saitama is the most powerful" regardless of what the feat is. Its literally been happening since the series started, and it will continue until the series ends.
“he just hasn’t met goku yet” that was so fire
@Fattyfish7Goku slams
Gooku>@Retarded577
@Retarded577goku would obliterate him in seconds you’re tripping 😂
@@red-rum9303Alien vs human
@@Droxy-eq1fs u mean alien?☠️
im lost in this guys editing , never mind the versus bro earned my respect for the editing and the content
bro is 101% right but ive a doubt every other guy ive seen has stated the garou , monsterized garou fighting platinum S and making those lines is stated to be few times the speed of light like 4 times at max but divine said it to be 200x and i dont agree with that the rest bro is cookin
Lol i totally agree with you, whenever i try to explain it to those saitama fans they just say "but you can't use SSG in base" btw this is a manga spoiler but Goku learned how to use ultra instinct in base
yeah and he absolutely does have god in base 😭
Yeah he did learn how to master ultra instinct into base. This means that his base power already is beyond gods.
@@fw_rhetorical uh no....he still gets destroyed by most g.o.ds and he literally is still weakee thsn gas and freiza💀
@@thepremise4942 plot keeps making these god dang gods get stronger and stronger to keep up with Goku when we all know that Goku should be on their level by now. TUI Goku>Jiren>G.O.D, it should be like that, but instead the author wants to keep making the G.O.D’s as strong as possible. Tired of it.
@@fw_rhetorical except jiren was only stated to be stronger than HIS G.O.D
Not all g.o.ds are gonna be at the same lvl and goku isn't surpass beings with billions of years of training because he mastered a technique lol
Plot doesn't change that(except for beerus)
fire video the amount of effort put into this video is amazing. outcome was beautiful keep making more videos like this
The background theme is so legendary
Fax
@@eliasplayz799 🔥 🔥🔥💯
Do you know the name?
The most highly debated fight in all of anime yet it is so one sided! Goatku slams this Multi Galaxy MFTL+ Fodder with No difficulty needed 💀
😭
The glazing is crazy ain't he get put in a pack by hit with one punch and he not even planet level 😂😂😂😂
@@kudakintay bro…ur trolling
Saitama ain’t even multi galaxy, that’s just a high-ball. Goku slams 0 difficulty needed.
@@fw_rhetorical using the DC scaling its multi Galaxy. When every power scaler saw the feat when that chapter dropped people debated of it being multi Solar (since it didn’t destroy the stars instead more so pushed them) and multi galaxy if the Serious Punch square 2 destroyed all the galaxies and stars within that circle. AKA Multi Galaxy.
Goku: goes ssj3
Saitma: "dies of jealously"
lol real
😂
😂
i dont think saitama sould be jealous. he would be happy someone is more powerful that him
@@junaidonpc9574I think he meant that saitama would be jealous because goku has more hair than him
bro i just love reading comments when there is a video like this. seeimg people argue
The fact that this is still up for debate is funny to me. Months ago I saw Master Media talk about this. Dude was just like, "Oh, so basically Saitama does this feat, Saitama does that feat and we don't need to talk about Goku 'cuz I'm a massive Saitama fan. Saitama wins, end of the story" and his take on this whole "debate" sums up what most One Punch Man fans think regarding this subject.
Mastar is a washed up bald guy that wished he was really saitama
Mastar media is an actual fraud who steals art and credit all the time, his takes don't mean shit outside of his child fanbase.
These debates are weird one of these characters has been around for 40 years while the other has been around for 11 of course there will be a huge gap in between the two seemingly limitless characters. It’s only been recently that we have seen saitama grow in strength since the beginning of the manga where as goku is constantly growing and being pushed to greater heights.
@@CapeTownCobra I agree. Your arguement makes sense. It's just the same when people compare Goku to Superman.
this is a debate because in db there are too many contradictions. in the manga, the moro tome... the last one released... we see that Vegeta doesn't travel at the speed of light he says he'll be on the spot on another part of earth in 5 seconds.... We see Goku fighting Krillin in god form... against Android 17... there are so many contradictions in dragon ball it's just ridiculous.... The fact that people use the argument of the destruction of the universe because of the clash of points between Beerus and Goku seems just as idiotic to me... The universe wasn't going to be destroyed because they had unmeasurable strength... it was going to be destroyed because it was Beerus who shocked the points. Beerus is the god of destruction... There are lots of techniques that were explained and this guy didn't mention them... hit's toki tobashi doesn't work against characters with a power level higher than his... when you see that goku gets hurt by a stone thrown by Krillin... Do you really think Goku is that invincible?
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
I love this channel sm man
🤝
No one makes it sound better than dis guy 🗣️🔥
I get goosebumps watching divines vid
Sick edits and amazing video You should scale xeno goku next lol
I’m gonna do a video on him soon
i always thought it was common sense that saitama looses to goku. idk who tf thought otherwise 💀
The fans that say, "Uhm he destroyed Jupiter with a sneeze so hes stronger than everyone" like you could have really nice art work of a planet getting destroyed by Saitama then theres Goku shaking a universe and yet people go for the Saitama scene since it looks so much more appealing so they in their delusional mindset say Saitama solo's Goku
@@highgaming6444 they say he's equal to Beerus cause he sneezed on Jupiter and I'm like bro Frieza could do that...
King Vegeta literally wipes away 3 planets by waving a arm, and that mf gets folded by Pre-Saiyan Saga Vegeta☠️☠️☠️
@@Chris_HT ikr, it has been said that kid vegeta is much stronger than his father ever was.
@@achi7381 first form frieza literally shits on stars for a living, they even call Frieza a universal threat☠️☠️☠️
Can’t even change the title or the thumbnail cuz it’s too good. When I see Divine upload, I click.
W
I’m sorry to say this but I think bros wrong. If Goku has punches so strong that he can break/ break through dimensions, wouldn’t the earth and everything around him get destroyed almost instantly. There are to many red flags to say that Goku would win. Besides that nice video man, the editing was fire🔥
No, everything around him wouldn't get destroyed, because DB characters use ki to control and focus the force of their attacks. That is literally the reason why one second Goku and Beerus were nearly destroying the macrocosm with their punches, and the next everything was completely fine. Its because Goku grew accustomed to his new power enough to control the force, instead of releasing the energy in shockwaves.
Also, there are too many red flags to say that Goku would win? Literally all the evidence points to Goku winning. The only "red flags" are logical fallacies, head canon, or inconsistent standards.
Empty void did a dimensional attack and it didn't destroy the earth at all
Finally, someone who doesn't under scale one's feat while over scaling other's feat. I have seen alot of arguments in this topic where one side doesn't even try to listen and full on goes with their own logic
I found a dude said op x toriko x DB is canon then using to prove goku is only at best luffy lvl lol🤦♂️🤦♂️
He under scaled goku a bit bc he didnt mention the manga but i see why, wasnt necessary
Garou is enough to solos db
Cry DB Meat Munchers
Goatama solos Midku
@@ninjagamereditzz77mfs still be chattin after all this 💀
@@ninjagamereditzz77 Both saitama and Garou get bodied by krillin
The point with Saitama is that he’s literally fated to plot, the hole gag being no matter how strong his opponent he’ll just win in supposedly one punch. Goku would literally be the perfect victim. Perfectly hyped up and demonstrates unbelievable feats that surpasses Saitama himself. But the nature of the show just makes that irrelevant. The winner of the fight just goes to whoever the writer decides lmao
Do I Know You? From Somewhere Else...............
E
In a VS battle, you go based off of feats, and only feats. So, goku wins.
But if he’s not strong enough to compare to goku he can’t surpass his power fast enough before dying.
If we are going based on narratives then super man destroys fiction and beyond
100%
Insane video dude keep it up!
i feel like some ppl don’t realize saitama is a gag character. he’s meant to be stronger than all and even then, the creator of goku said saitama is stronger than
And there are people who don't realize that, not only is Saitama not a gag character (he is a parody), but even if he were, it wouldn't actually matter. Genre doesn't dictate power, feats do, and Goku's feats absolutely dwarf Saitama's. Also, no, Toriyama never said that Saitama is stronger. Toriyama was one of those people who didn't care about power scaling and vs community stuff.
@@ikeillue8385”genre doesn’t dictate power” then why does the entire idea of toon force exist? The guy at the end just says how there are finite points of the scale as if it won’t rapidly increase from where it’s at if he ever fought goku. It’s already done it with almost all of the opm characters. And idk if the video was fake or not i just seen it on tiktok like 2 months ago i can show u if u want but i wouldn’t know how to.
@@ikeillue8385also let me mention that because saitama is a gag character the scale doesn’t even have to make sense so it doesn’t even matter. The whole idea of saitamas character is dumb i mean come on “100 pushups 100 sit-ups 100 squats” and u gain godlike abilities bro i can do that easily. but that’s what makes it entertaining, He would just beat goku like 20 minutes into the fight maybe less.
@@jaeger0x It exists because its a lable given to reality warping abilities that are done specifically for comedy. But again, genre doesn't dictate power. Even within the confines of "toonforce" there is a massive spectrum of power.
His power would rapidly increase, but it wouldn't increase any different fighting Goku as it would any other point in Saitama's life (post limit removal.). The power of the opponent has nothing to do with Saitama's rate of growth.
Again, Saitama isn't a gag character, but even if he was it doesn't make a difference. It also doesn't make a difference how he got to the level of power he is at. Gag or not, Saitama is currently sitting at low multi solar system levels of power, while Goku has been sitting at a low ball of low multi universal levels of power, in base form, by the end of the first arc of Super. This fight would last exactly as long as Goku wants it to last, and not an instant longer. And if Goku decides to go lethal, Saitama wouldn't even comprehend the attack before turning into a red mist.
@@ikeillue8385
It’s pretty obvious saitama is a gag character i mean really bruh “one punch man” and anytime he fights he never takes it seriously not just because of his immense power but because the whole anime is supposed to be stupid like that.
Dude one of his feat is super farting. And i mentioned his way of gaining power because it’s stupid which is why im saying all of what im saying rn. his whole character is meant to be stupidly powerful over anyone. The name “one punch man” isn’t just for show. But i feel like it really goes down to what type of universe their in. cause it’s obvious his power is supposed to go beyond his opponents. I mean idk tho cause i ain’t some big big anime fan im just speaking off what i know So my whole argument could be debunked easily.
Bro, you simplify HEATED DEBATES so much. You deserve more! 100/100 editing.
Lmao he did not. He, just a gokutard. Getting views from goku lovers and ppl who love his editing
I think you meant to say 100/10 editing, because 100/100 is equivalent to 10/10
Goku is a mind blowing character which exists in the fictional world.
Meh, overrated
😭Man gives me existencial problems
@@sauce8148If goku's character is overrated then I can only imagine how the character of a bald man with crazy strenght and one shotting wall level fodders could be
@@sauce8148 Yupp..agreed overatted.
@@ImTheOne_WhoAsked they're both overrated
Great analysis of the feats each posses. Im thankful that there are still people smart enough to know how to power scale.
Yeah
I understand how goku is complex multi+ but what about outerversal I need some context and also imagine if he used manga goku that would be over kill
There is no scale to begin with. Saitama's power is limitless. He's a gag character made so strong that, at full power, could destroy the very idea of existence. Nothing would exist. It's really futile to try to measure a power that's immeasurable.
Garou is enough to solos db
Cry DB Meat Munchers
Goatama solos Midku
lol this guy raging hard cuz' his fav baldy cant even solo DBZ Goku@@ninjagamereditzz77
"It just hasn't met Goku yet"
BRO, my whole body shivered with that quote
Underrated
Collapsing star: roaring cannon sounds so dope 😯
It got punched
Keep it up bro, you'll get the views you deserve.
🤝
Yeah
You know this mama boutta cook when he says “well” 🔥 🔥
Very good video nice edits and good background for both characters. Keep it up bro
Thank you, I will
Damn bro the word play is top notch👌👌
You've done a perfect job on this video.
I like how you explained both Son Goku and Saitama.
It truly helped to have a better understanding of them.
Keep up the good work :D
Goatama solos cry
@@ninjagamereditzz77😂😂
@@ninjagamereditzz77Did you not watch the video?
@@bababooeyxbh190 I DID BLUD
AND YES SAITAMA DOES INDEED SOLO
@@ninjagamereditzz77if you did then how did you come to that conclusion..
best edit and best iconic voice good job bro
You did it yet again Divine, you keep proving the biased ones wrong, can’t wait for the Gt collab with Kazi, keep up your effort ❤️🙏🏾
THANK YOU now someone actually put it into perspective everyone can get the delusion of saitama being stronger then goku out of their heads
The greatest debate ever in all of anime possibly even in all of TV Shows aswell but when you put all the facts into 1 vid there is a clear answer
He missed a bunch of facts from One Punch Man, I don't know if it was intentional but he missed quite a few feats that put his verdict into question.
Goku is that arnser
What facts did he miss? Ive always known goku negs the whole verse in base form so i skipped the video
@@PlayNudge thought*
@@Amethyst.Keep in mind that is manga saitama + strongest feat, yet Goku cell saga is more than enough 💀
Ngl this is the calmest ive seen comments on a video like this, normally you got your average fan boy saying either “goku solos” or “saitama solos”
Hell yeah brother. A masterpiece.
Saitama has no limiter, meaning that their is literally no limit to his strength. The stronger the person he fights, the stronger he will get. Unfortunately, there probably isn’t any character in the OPM series that can push saitama to a lvl that rivals goku, so we will probably never get to see feats that can prove how strong he can possibly be.
That is true, Saitama has no limit, and has no limit to his strength. That same concept is true of basically every single Shonen character ever created. Saitama is not special at all for having no limits. In fact, he is literally the norm.
You are blatantly wrong on one point though. The strength of his opponent has absolutely nothing to do with Saitama's growth. Saitama is always in a state of growth, and the only thing in the series that has ever changed that rate of growth, has been the surge of emotion he got from Genos' death. Thats it. Saying that Saitama grows based on the power of his opponent is straight up head canon.
Thank u
Goku has been shown to train and evolve during intense battles. If the opponent's power grows in real-time, Goku might use the battle itself as a training ground, rapidly unlocking new transformations or techniques.
No guys dont get the 2 confused just because he dont have a limiter doesnt mean his power is endless,a limiter can limit you from a particular power level it doesn't mean his power is endless
@@NemesisBlue24 Fr. Even if saitama has no limiter, he still has a limit to his strength unless he fight more to increase his strength.
I know its straight forward, but Saitama vs Goku would eventually be a tie since they grow rapidly fast. Because the more both of their manga between OPM and DBS, the more strength they gain, so there's no end to it.
Goku solos has been a joke in the community. for years, but at this point, its kind of just true
Nah they were serious when they said he solos
It's a joke but fax
This is the most chill and correct debate out there. Good video👍
Bro, you're a legend... You hit the nail on the head way too many times 😅😅😂❤
Bro makes the coolest lines ever and his editing is fire
This is why the mc’s have to stay in there own vers goku is too strong i still cant believe that saitama would lose but hearing all that changes my opinion🤯
W mans not like the other brain dead saitama fans
Faxs
@@MaitoFelix saitama has infinte potential, so he could eventually beat goku, and how tf is goku so strong, im shocked
@@MaitoFelix Human vs Mortal
@@Thatonegamedudegoku is just him, and besides both goku and saitama have infinite potential, so when saitama goes up a few, so did goku, meaning saitama will never catch up
Yeah this debate is gonna go on till the end of time💀
So true
You have no idea how much satisfaction this brings me.
You were right when you said "I could have ended this video when I got to Cell" 💀
The funny thing is you didn't even get into the Moro and Granola arc where Goku can now use UI in his base and other transformations. At this point Goku no longer needs to transform to defeat Saitama 💯
yeah no need to enter the manga 😭
everybody knows if goku doesn't fuse with vegeta then broly and moro wins. if goku didn't get a power transfer from his friends then ssj god goku wouldn't have been able to go toe-to-toe with beerus. goku and vegeta almost always double team major opponents. and, goku almost routinely gets a ki transfer or a power transfer during a big fight. in other words. goku has to cheat in order to win. finally, everybody knows that saiyans can't breathe in space and saitama and cosmic garou can.
Stop making excuses
Fitness
@@rajeshagrawal9991 hey! don't blame me. toriyama was the one who said that goku can't breathe/survive in space. and, he's the person who let's goku cheat and double team opponents.
Just hearing Goku's power giving me chills
Fr
Chi chi solos Goku so chi chi is multiversal?? Trust trust
@@911PilotIdkRandomName 🤓
@@911PilotIdkRandomName By that logic Goku is wall level
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi2878 lol bro, that a joke 😂
Finally😭 someone gave me the
Answer ive been looking for
Everything been building up to this video
😈
@@officialdivine.. I was revisiting this video just for fun, and when I checked the comments not only I forgot that I commented, I didn't know you reply 😭
Man I am loving your videos! Completely agree with the conclusion of this one
I'd honestly argue that it would depend. If Goku gets to use all his forms, then he easily stomps Saitama, but there's a chance Saitama would kill him before he even decides to go Blue.
This is one of the funniest 11 minites of my life, how did you keep that up
You think this as a joke ain't no way
@@cixrittkI don't think it's a joke, doesn't change the fact it's completely hilarious
@@seraphir4662what is completely hilarius
W youtuber you deserve more attention getting every single detail to make it as fair and not putting hate on the one that looses W youtuber
Me as an saitama fan confirms that i love Saitama but goku gives me goosebumps when i heard his feats saitama still is my favourite but this fight is an absolute W for Goku
W saitama fan
@Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire bro showed no proof and cant even back up his claims so L, take your leave sir
@Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire and didnt you see his video, are you an idiot, or do you have Alzheimer's
@Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire bros only proof is himself saying bull shit like that, how unfortunate.
@Sir_Pumpington_Of_DumpenshireProof: trust
2:40 bro should begin a rapping carrier 😂😂
It dosen’t matter who wins. They are both entertaining and we should not be fighting over who wins
Fr both are enjoyable characters i love both but goku is still stronger
holy shit this was absolutely PEAKKKK
Bro brought a new meaning to “Can he beat Goku tho.”
It would be out of this world, if the animators from One punch man, and the animators from Dragon Ball Z collab, and they create the battle between Saitaima vs Goku, now that would really decide it, and it would be insanely awesome
You know they would end in being friends in and official or something like that
Goku just built different 🥶🙏🏿
meanwhile saitama gonna face the builder
@@Shadow_Ghost_F the builder is goku
@@yolindaoliphant2044ngl saitama solos imo
@@hinokamikagura998he got proof yet you still think that
@@hinokamikagura998 ur opinion is true tho
🫡.. That's all.. Words can't express how impressed I am. Great job soldier.. You did your fellow Goku fans proud😭
I'm one of those Saitama fanboys but jeez, this was such a good video
Fantastic video felt a little biased based on only feats and conciliation rather than how the fight would go down😅 feats alone goku stands above all but logic speaks the opposite
@@beebebeebe8531-_- and with one sentence this is over. When did saitama EVER fight someone that could blow away a semi inf sized UNIVERSE with one attack. And done
@@beebebeebe8531what logic? People use feats because it’s one of the most accurate ways to measure strength in characters and being able to decide who the winner would most likely be
Garou is enough to solos db
Cry DB Meat Munchers
Goatama solos Midku
I really loved your take on the battle. It was very cool, and it taught me a lot about goku. However, your take on saitama's power I believe is that his power grows exponentially faster and faster over time, but goku's already so far ahead that goku would easily beat him if they met now. Another take that many one-punch man fans have including myself is that saitama's power grows to how much he needs to defeat his opponents which is why he is always able to one-punch his opponents. The reason he didn't kill garou in one punch is because it was Tareo's final request to stop him without killing him.
I understand your argument, but saitama also said he was no longer holding bag, this alludes that in order to keep up with garou he had to at the very least use most of his power. Also, he is shown getting stronger and stronger, that means that he needs to improve to keep up, so he's not all powerful.
Saitama get's stronger as he fights, but he is fighting someone that is infinitely more powerful than him on a dimensional level, that also improves and gets stronger as he fights with multiple transformations and multipliers, more techniques and hax, battle knowledge and capabilities the list goes on. So it's literally impossible for him to win. At least at his current level
@@More_Hallstarwell so far we haven’t seen a fight with saitama fighting a much more powerful figure. It’s either saitama being defeated, or him growing power, so basically the fight is based off that factor. Goku right now is much stronger and has stronger feats then saitama, but if saitama can grow in power from the fight then he will win. Because realistically the plot for the fight will end up with goku gaining a new form, but saitama growing much stronger. So practically it could end up either way, aka draw 6:05
@@mrwafflez1046 I completely disagree because saiyans also get exponentially stronger as they fight. In the TOP alone goku got thousands of times stronger. This is why I think saitama can't win, even if goku stalls the fight to make him get as strong as him, they'll both just keep fighting and getting stronger forever, untill one of them gives up or gets tired.
But if goku isn't playing around and seriously flicks saitama in his base form, his body is going to evaporate.
YEAH SAY IT MAN
@@More_Hallstarhe had been Je hand making him handicapped
Its kinda funny how I already know your reasoning on why goku slams saitama. Btw we need to get a video on why batman slams every street tier
bet
Dude ikr, imagine comparing Ayanokoji strength to a damn superhuman who dedicated his entire life to becoming the strongest or also known as Batman!
Personally just think it’s based on how they start. If Goku starts all out then he wins but if it’s like most fights then Saitama would simply match the strength development
The problem is, Saitama has never shown the capability of growing to the extent he would need to in order to , not only close the monumental gap between them, but to outpace Goku's own absurd growth. The short version is, Saitama's growth looks incredibly impressive because its faster than his peers, while Goku's growth doesn't look super impressive because its relative to his peers. However, when you look at the actual magnitude of growth, Goku's is absolutely nuts.
@@ikeillue8385 I'd disagree, we have only seen Goku grow millions of times stronger, and it isn't instant, while Saitama's growth was instant when his power got stimulated, and the graph (a logarithmic scale) grows x32 for each level, and since he grew about 14 levels, that equates to about 10 sextillion times growth, instantly. Now say that his multi galaxy feat was multiplied by 10 sextillion, and Goku somehow matched that, that would simply stimulate even higher growth, causing it to be impossible for him to lose.
@@Amethyst. I went into detail in the other post as to why all of this is either wrong, doesn't matter, or both, so I won't go over it again, with one exception. You are implying here that Goku matching Saitama's power would stimulate higher growth. That is blatantly wrong. The power of his opponent has nothing to do with his growth. The manga blatantly spells out what causes his growth, and the power of his opponent plays 0 part in it.