Doctor Who 3x11 REACTION!! "Utopia"
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2018
- Eric Shane Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 3 episode 11 of Doctor Who Utopia
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Eric: "They Brought back a Villain from the past." ... Nooooo .. the brought back THE Villain from the Past! ... xD
The Master is Moriarty to The Doctor’s Sherlock
It's even more complicated than that. They're like soulmates that love and hate each other. That last season should have made that clear. The Master finally got past who he/she was, accepted trying to be good, and ended up sabotaging him/herself, even then. The Master is The Doctor's greatest friend and most dangerous enemy.
Eric putting it all together makes me so happy.
And then there is Season 4 with children vs children....
Totally agreed! My heart was pumping so fast throughout all of this! Also... I'm sorry, what do you mean by: 'Children vs children'
For their Blind Wave's benefit. A tantalizing hint that does not give spoilers. If only Eric could do a Season 4 putting it together. Oh yea, spoilers is another tantalizing hint in itself for future storylines....
Uh... Okay. I guess I'll find out! :)
@@carealoo744 The Children of Time (the companions) vs Davros and the Daleks
The Master is the Doctor's oldest friend and greatest enemy. He has encountered every incarnation since the Third Doctor, and was even the main antagonist in the 1996 movie. He's probably the Doctor's only intellectual equal in the universe at this point.
Yeah, forgot he never met Eccleston. And I really don't think there is anyone that can match the Doctor intellectually (apart from the Master). The combination of natural intelligence, creativity, problem-solving abilities, and millennia of experience is just unmatched.
Doesn't initiative count as intelligence though? There are lots of things that go into making a person truly intelligent. The Doctor has managed to use his mind to defeat all of his enemies (well, most of the time). There are even theories (in-universe) that the third founder of Time-Lord society, the Other, alongside Rassilon and Omega, was actually the Doctor from the future (possibly his last incarnation), or the Doctor is the "reincarnation" of the Other.
"Being able to use the things around you to your advantage quickly" Being able to pull stuff like that off effectively counts as intelligence in my books
DextroDNA: Every incarnation (on screen) except for Eccleston (at this point in the show). He met 1 and 2 in The Five Doctors and 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 in their respective eras. THE biggest recurring villain, along with the daleks and the cybermen.
I didn’t Like The Master In The 1996 Movie That And making The Doctor Half Human is my main problem with that Episode I did like Paul McGann Tho
"Ah... Now I can say I was provoked!" God damn this version of the Master was menacing. I wish he'd stuck around for a few more episodes.
I think that Derek Jacobi is in a couple of audio stories, but I can't remember if it's as Yana or as the Master
He is as the "War Master" during the Time War.
That doesn’t make sense The Master Regenerated as a child and grew up as a human for 60+ years he was only The Master for 5 minutes I haven’t listened to the Audio yet do they touch Upon that ?
Yes. He runs away from the Time War, turns himself into a child while using the Chameleon Arch and sends his TARDIS back to Gallifrey.
Big Finish have done a whole boxset
When Eric was talking about The Face of Boe here 14:40, I was almost certain he was about to figure out something... thank God he didn't - can't wait to see his reaction to Episode 13 now :)
*SPOILERS*
+Alex Hodgkinson
Yeah I agree it would be quite hard to work it out before you find out, but that doesn't detract from it - I think it works well. I know RTD didn't always intend for The Face of Boe to be Jack but there is a reason he 'chucked it into the script'. Jack can't die, it didn't seem too illogical a plot point, living for a million years probably would turn you into a massive face.
Headless Monks... Just saying. I think it is still interesting. Don't try too hard to find logic in Dr Who :P
Aaron playing a dangerous game by throwing in "Well we had Jack mention that the Doctor's not the only one with Time Travel"
Alex Hodgkinson: Jack has had children. If he evolves into a massive head, then it makes sense for his children to be massive heads as well. But they aren't immortal, so eventually they all die, leaving only Jack (the original member of the new species that he evolved into). Being the last of his kind could easily just mean that all of his children and grandchildren, etc. have died.
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idisagree since logically the Face of Boe knew that the master was alive and there was only a few people that saw the master come back and only one of them could have lived as long as the Face of Boe.
Eric: "Could that be like a prison for timelords?"
- Sharp intake of breath-
He was talking about The master being a human, not about Utopia
Prison for time lords
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Do you mean the Pandorica? Or Missies cold turkey cube?
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Well there was Shada
@@AzguardMike those we're built specifically to contain the doctor in the master a prison for time Lords in general would be shada I say years later
So upset they never could get jack riding the tardis in the intro. I read it was something he wanted or something, but I guess not enough time, heh.
Yeah, they were planning on it but something about not enough time or something.
The Doctor runs so much that he might as well be an Olympic sprinter.
He kinda was in one episode!
funny fact he did light the Olympic fire =)
I think Tennant did run with the torch at one point...
That’s why Tennant wears converse with his suit
SylenDraws he said in the next episode, he run away and never stopped
#votesaxon
Saxon has a nice satellite program. He has my vote.
I voted Missy.
I agree MadHatter, the detail is very sharp to. lol
Tap Tap Tap Tap, Tap Tap Tap, Tap Tap Tap Tap.....
I'd rather not.
"Things die, it's just what they do, every minute of every day on every world, every galaxy, something dies. Crying over it is spitting into the wind" - Derek Jacobi as The Master in The Heavenly Paradigm
Zak Rosenfeld: LOVE The War Master box set. Jacobi NEEDED to come back, so I'm glad we got some full stories with him.
Some Random Guy And i really hope we get even more of him, they intentionally left gaps between the stories in the boxset so they could do more with him :). I know he's set to appear in "Gallifrey: Time War" and the next Kate Stewart UNIT boxset, but i hope we get a second War Master set
I love how Aaron keeps tapping a certain drum beat throughout this episode especially at 8:37 and during several parts of the full length reaction. Also #VoteSaxon
Wow, you're right. I didn't even notice. That's pretty funny.
Flavius_BelisariusXII ㅕ
I was looking specifically for this, he starts as soon as the master does at 2:10. He's already been turned!!
They are going to freak when they find out what the Face of Bo really is.
There *is* actually an in-universe explanation for Gwen looking the same as Gwyneth, which basically boils down to "her traits were passed down through her bloodline and amplified by the presence of the Time Vortex", or something like that.
to be fair, it sorta a spoiler since it talk about later
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That was Derek Jacobi, a pretty famous actor...or so I thought. Anthony Ainley (the Master you saw in The Five Doctors) lost his battle with cancer back in 2004.
Man, this and the Bad Wolf thing reminds me of how much better RTD was with series arcs than Moffat was.
StormWolf „Better series arcs“
Season 1: A word repeated
Season 2: A word repeated
Season 3: A good story arc
Season 4: Rose appears somewhere
What makes the running scene funnier is that, according to the Doctor Who Confidential episode for this episode, John Barrowman and David Tennant were actively trying to out run one another, while poor Freema *was just trying to keep up with either of them!*
Well Eric, since Bad Wolf's power on Jack seem to also fix whatever killed him I think that if he died of starvation he would gain a little bit of energy upon revival.
It's not like if he dies of a gunshot he has to come back, then immediately die again from the destroyed organs and bloodloss and keeps repeating it until it happens enough times for the wound to close.
he dies then is forced back to life. I dont think he could physically die from hunger though. Otherwise the radiation should of vaporised him instantly then he would reform and evaporate again.
"Children of Earth" shows just how FAR his regenerative properties can go, when pushed...
They haven’t met Captain “Spike” on Torchwood yet. I think that’s a bit worse than just dying from starvation a few times.
"what does the drums have to do with the Master?" heeheeheehee
Absolutely nothing! They are a nothing that Russell The Davies added to give nothing to the character, for the sake of nothing!
HERE COME THE DRUMS!!!
A rhythm of four
The heartbeat of a time Lord.
Baby, baby, baby
You are my Voodoo Child, my Voodoo Child
This was such an action-packed episode. I remember losing my shit during that last 10 mins or so. Can't wait for the next two!
It's also confirmed that Tosh in Torchwood was the doctor that appeared in the Aliens of London episode
which is funny enough explain in a later torchwood episode, explains how she could be a doctor there and not in torchwood.
They said that in the video...
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The Master hasn't actually aged, that segment with being found on a beach was actually a part of his fabricated background.
No. He was a child. The War Master audio box set explains how the Derek Jacobi incarnation fled the Time War, used the Chameleon Arch to turn himself into a human child, and sent his TARDIS back to Gallifrey. The story was written in conjunction with RTD who said the War Master had been found as a child.
Oh, alright. I haven't listened to them yet, but from him appearing on the cover as his Professor Yana incarnation, I assumed his chameleon arch implanted those memories as part of his background. My mistake.
You
Are
Not
Alone
i am here to stay......and though were far awayyyyy, i am here to saaaaaay. You are not alone *not alone*
What a fantastic episode! Derek Jacobi is fantastic as YANA but that turn into The Master was one of the best TV moments in history! Phenomenal all round! This makes me kinda think that maybe series 3 isn't as bad as people say it is, since we have some of the best episodes of the show so far at this point in series 3! Love Eric's reaction to The Master/Old Creep
EDITRON GAMING CHANNEL Who says series 3 is bad? Like every series it has it's fair share of detractors but overall it's one of the more praised series of Doctor Who from what I've seen. I know it's in my top 3 Doctor Who series along with series 4 and 5.
MrAzmatMahmood it's is a pretty dividing storyline alot fans think it's great and alot hate it especially towards the end of David tenants run
A lot of people don't feel like this series holds up as well as the others. Episodes 4-7 ain't good but there are a lot of amazing episodes in series 3 so I think I'd put it up there personally.
The sky's are made of diamonds is one of my favorite doctor who quotes
The crew is all up in Doctor Who lore... tears of pride haha
Ana just need sontarans, zygons and davros and then I think that's everything from the classics, everything else being New who
The Master is way more important than just one episode in the old who!
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He's now responsible for 4 of the Doctor's regenerations
KKEntertainment 4th Doctor, 7th Doctor, ...?
4th, 7th, 10th and 12th.
Ionut nah Tenth sacrificed himself for Wilf and 12th was forced to regenerate by mondasian cybermen
3rd, 4th, 6th (in an audio play), 8th (now that is confirmed he is cannon), possibly the war doctor, 10th, and yes 12th.
Now we start the amazing 3 part finale. I remember watching these for the first time and how much I love them. You got some good content to react to
HERE. COME. THE DRUMS.
#votesaxon
"Oooh now i can say... I was provoked!" i wish Derek Jacobi stayed The Master throughout RTD'S run, he is absolutely phenomenal, especially in "The War Master"
Alex Hodgkinson Yup, in World Enough And Time and The Doctor Falls he finally felt like The Master
Bael Bard not cannibal, he's not human, and his victims weren't Gallifreyans
I liked the Savage Master. It was a way to flesh out the character. He doesn't always have to be what he was. Characters grow. They learn. Missy is proof of that.
Eric will throw that shirt away so fast after Maze of the Dead XD
That which holds the image of an angel is itself an angel
The Doctor looked at Captain Jack on the screen and thought “STAY IN YOUR OWN SHOW”
Oh and if you didn’t realise, this follows right after end of days
The “You Are Not Alone” twist is my favorite in Doctor Who.
"Is that the same actor? I don't think it is" That's just a huge complement to Derek Jacobi's acting skills!
In those 5 minutes Derek Jacobi became my second favourite master
Bobdog7who reviews he recantly reprised his role in a audio drama called the war master (fully voice acted) which is actually set during the time war and its fucking amazing.
joshua powell I know I can't wait to get it
I should get it today actually
I can already see people commenting saying "finish Torchwood series 2 before the end of Doctor Who series 4" THEY KNOW!!!! You don't need to keep telling them.
"The Doctor can absorb radiation specifically..." Uh...yeah, sure...
TehJim just don't absorb too much
...IRONY!
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO BLIND WAVE: DOCTOR WHO SEASON 4: EPISODE 12 RUINS THE TORCHWOOD SERIES 2 FINALE, SO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN REACTING AND MAKE SURE YOU FINISH TORCHWOOD SERIES 2 BEFORE DOCTOR WHO SEASON 4: EPISODE 12. Cheers.
Good. Well I thought anyway after commenting that that because there's a Doctor Who Christmas special, but not a Torchwood one, it should line up perfectly anyway.
I get chills everytime I watch the part where Yana pulls out the fob watch... ugh 😍 and I really hope you watch Genesis of the Daleks as the classic episode before Series 4.
Jake C I think they are doing The McGann movie which after watching The Five Doctors isn’t the best episode. So far their introduction to Classic Who hasn’t been The Best Episodes
I can't think of a Good User Name Oh... :/ I hope they change their minds 😂
Jake C I sent them Tomb Of The Cybermen, The Brian Of Morbius, Spearhead From Space, The Power Of The Daleks, The Ark In Space And Claws Of Axos through a couple of Mailbags I’m not asking for a reaction I just want them to watch these during their spare time so they get a better understanding of Classic Who
Now the need to watch genesis of the Daleks before season 4 finale
anyone smell that ham cooking... yup John Simm is here. Love that guy.
I love how Eric gets so excited about the return of the Master.
I was looking forward to this reaction all week.
Nice!! I'm so glad you guys were able to work out the reactions to Torchwood and Doctor Who.
So glad you guys got here. This and the next two are up there as my fav story in NewWho. Having Jack back, the Master, all the lore it opens up. Just so cool.
I like how the logo is the Doctor Who logo but in colour of Torchwood's logo.
This reaction was great! I love this episode. The hype and Torchwood crossing over with the main show. The build up to the Master revelation is brilliant! :D
Been waiting for this since you started watching this show!
I've been excited for this video all day. Their reactions didn't disappoint.
I was so pumped for you guys to see this episode because of the ending. I only wish you all could react to the last two episodes and upload them both this week.
I was originally planning to wait for all 3 episodes to be released so I could watch them together.
But I just saw this on my homepage, and I _knew_ I couldn't wait on this... ^-^
There are many actors who have appeared on Who or its spinoffs in more than one character. Peter Capaldi, the 12th Doctor, also played John Frobisher on Torchwood, and a Roman in an upcoming episode; that same upcoming Roman episode also features Karen Gillan, who the following season became a companion; which also happened with Frema, who plays Martha, who, before becoming a companion in series three, first appeared in the finale of series two as a different character. It’s a semi-frequent occurrence where they will cast an actor with one intention and then decide to bring them back for another.
I've been waiting for this one, probably my favourite episode of the entire show
Oh I love this so much, I cannot wait for some of the later episodes. But its going to take sooooo long, :3 But, it is kinda fun to
rewatch the doctor with you guys. So no complaints, just impatience
i love that, when watching reactions to series, youtube always recommends the video after the one im on. skipped blink entirely!
Story Time! I was introduced to Classis Who almost immediately after I became a new Who fan when I was a kid and that included a couple of stories with the Master so when I watched this I remember running around the living room cheering while my dad, whose been a fan since the 1st Doctor, was just stunned.
The first Master story was 'The Terror of the Autons' from the early seventies-a Third Doctor/Jon Pertwee story, worth a watch though it's the sequal to his first, regeneration story, 'Spearhead from Space'.
I've been looking forward to this one for weeks
With regards to the Doctor meeting the Face of Boe in his personal future. Remember what the Face of Boe says in season 2. "We shall meet again, Doctor, but for the third time, the last time." The Face of Boe only ever met the Doctor three time in his life, on Platform One, in the Hospital on New Earth, and in the underground passages of New New York, where he dies.
it was me who told yous about toshiko being in doctor who and thanks for reading my comment :) and in torchwood they messed up the tardis did land in torchwood building cause one min jack was their and the next he was gone, and he did not use the front door cause owen and the rest of them came in the front door, and did not see jack, i just watched ep 1 of season 2 ep 1 of torchwood, yous are just one ep behind me :) and yous guys are awesome thank you for doing this :)
For those of you who'd like some backstory on The Master, spoilers below.
Believe it or not, he and The Doctor used to be best friends. They grew up together in the Gallifreyen countryside and even attended school together. They had a third friend called The Rani, together making a sort of science fiction pseudo Harry/Ron/Hermione thing. Unfortunately The Master's moral compass and sanity eroded over time leading to the man we see today, and as for The Rani? She was a specialist in biology and loved experimenting...whether the participant was willing or not, if you catch my drift. She appeared sometimes in OldWho as an antagonist, although I don't think it ever said what happened to her during the Time War.
Michelle Gomez should have played The Rani not the Master.
Oh my god I agree so hard. I couldn't stand Missy because she *spoilers* completely fucked The Masters redemption arc *spoilers*. It would have worked so much better if she was The Rani but apparently Moffat didn't want to "bring in a character the newer audience would have no connection to".
'Moffat didn't want to "bring in a character the newer audience would have no connection to".'
By Moffat's logic, one should never bring in new characters to a show.
Pretty much the entire Moffat run felt more like a fanfic than an actual TV show.
Don't get me started on Riversong. I loved her in the Library episode but what they did with her completely destroyed any mystery she could have had. I would have much preferred it just turned out she was one of his future companions or something.
Completely disagree with everything you said.
Welcome to the Party!. The Master is MY favorite villian. He has been around since Doctor #3. Non-spoiler tidbit to give you an idea how studly he is. Normally Time Lords can have 13 lives and then die forever. When he first showed up he was already on his last life and has lied, killed, cheated and bargained time and again to get new regenerations. That's why he was "nice" to the 5 Doctors, to get a whole new set of regenerations from the Time Lords. And oh yea, #votesaxon
_"The Professor"_ was what Ace called the 7th Doctor. Ace was a rebellious teen and companion to the 7th Doctor, played by Silvester McCoy. You may know him as the wizard Radagast The Brown in The Hobbit. The 7th was the last of the original Who, when it was cancelled in 1989. He appeared briefly in the 1996 movie as well. And, his digital likeness was used in an episode of the 11th Doctor -- long story. ;-]
THE MASTER IS HERE! Cant wait for the next two parter, its in the list of my top 10
Not gonna lie... I hate this finale.
The original Master was played by Roger Delgado. Jon Pertwee called him the bravest mane he'd ever known. He died stupidly: when on holiday he'd got a taxi back to his hotel, the driver was drunk and took the car off a cliff. What a waste.
I was waiting for 3x12 came out before I watch this one... FINALLY
14:40 the panic in Aaron's eyes
'Suppose the Face of Bo could time travel' *Gasps
"I am usually referred to as the Master"
The Master's first words (as played by Roger Delgado), Terror of the Autons, 1971.
I think this is my favourite of your Doctor Who reactions! :)
Great 3-part series finale. Martha goes through some s--- and kicks some serious ass. Can't wait for the next reaction episode!
YEEEEEESSSSSSSS SO EXITED FOR THESE 3 EPISODES
HERE COME THE DRUMS!
the next few episodes are some of the best
I can't explain how excited I am for this episode
One of the best episodes of Nu-Who IMO. Based Derek Jacobi!
I know you guys said you won’t be doing all mini episodes but can I recommend the one that comes at the end of this series. The episode is called “time crash” and it comes between “last of the time lords” and “voyage of the damned”. I think it would be especially good for you guys given the episodes you have watched. As with the last mini episode you watched it was released for children in need which is an annual telethon here in the uk.
Hey guys. Great vid and reaction. The Mailbag after this coming one, I'm gonna send you something. I haven't forgotten you!
I've been watching these videos and just... you can REALLY tell that Eric is into Doctor Who. Shane and Aaron have seen it before, so they don't react as much, but do contribute to conversation. And then Shane doesn't really react or say much at all. But then Eric is always exclaiming stuff and yelling and getting excited.
Maybe this is how they always are, and I just haven't seen enough of their stuff to realise...
Just wait till Missy.. 😂😂😂
omfg not that cringe fest..
i love how when everything went haywire, Jacks imiditate reaction was to comfort Chantho, like "dont worry my precious little blue angel, i'll protect you"
The path of the master from the Time War to Utopia is narrated in the War Master audio dramas :)
Fun fact The Master made his first appearance In Jon Pertwee story Terror of the Autons 1971 played by Roger Delgado
My heart's pumping so fast!
loved that reaction doh "THE PROFESSOR!!"..hahaha.. The Master ( Anthony Ainley) gave me nightmares!!
I love how Jack plays full badass on Torchwood, then here he's just happy being the guy holding the doctor's coat.
It was a nice touch putting Jack on top of the Tardis. You can picture at 1:21 the Tardis is thinking "get it off get it off get it off!!" and running to the end of the universe like she's on fire. The guy is literally a living time-paradox.
That Tardis notepad Aaron has, what a tease...
Ace called the Doctor, Professor.
I hope you guys watch an adventure in space and time when it comes to it. Also The night of the doctor. Also Time Crash ... When it comes to it
The master!!! Such a great iconic character for Doctor Who?
If I remember right, Gwen and the girl in old Cardiff are related in-universe. But I could be wrong.
You guys always cheer me up :-) xo
The lost car analogy works better if you think of getting of a train at a random station in the middle of nowhere out of mobile signal range... then realising their isn't another train this month.
don’t you hear the drumming guys?
Actor Derek Jacobi has since returned to the role he played in this episode in the Doctor Who audio adventures, therefore the "Found with the fob watch as a child" is a false memory.
Have you listened to the very end of the set?
I remember seeing this episode for the first time when it aired on BBC.. it was a mind fuck
I've been waiting so long for this...
You get your masters and then your doctorate so maybe that’s why Eric thought the professor.
I know it's way late, but I'm re-watching this episode and Aaron said that *The Master* lived as a human ever since he was a little kid. But I'm pretty sure that wasn't what happened. I believe that's just the story that the _Chameleon Circuit_ gave to him.
Oh, and even though these came later, Big Finish released specials on *The War Master* with _Sir Derek Jacobi._ so even though it was after the fact, it confirms that being found with the watch when he was a child was simply part of the backstory given to him.