Full chaotic ending of San Diego State vs. Creighton
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2023
- San Diego State's Elite Eight showdown with Creighton was as tense as can be, with the Aztecs coming out ahead 57-56. Watch the full ending from the game here.
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Any time you see the defender in a bad position with the shooter already in the air and started his shooting motion and the jersey is clearly tugged, especially on the shooting hand side, you've gotta call the foul
Too much of a foul to ignore
Held Creighton to 23 points second half. Wow!
This is the March Madness I've always dreamed of.
Agree, this was a phenomenal tournament for the forgotten, the teams who were told they can't, the teams that were doubted, the teams who were looking in from the outside. I wish every tournament was like this. They say it's bad overall for TV ratings, but it makes for spectacular basketball either way, especially since these teams aren't this great every year.
03/27/23
Yes, except for all the ruined brackets!
Bama fan.... happy to see SDSU do this! Clearly tougher than us and deserving. Would love to see them win it all
Yeah, and y’all’s arrogant fan base always thinks your good😂
@@freeballin5753I think the response to a congratulations isn’t “douchery”.🙄
This March madness is the greatest bracket buster in history.
Nope. I still have 100%
@@ace2585 no you dont
@@multimidnight13 yes he does
It’s true I’ve seen it
It’s true I’ve seen it
Tough way to lose but he definitely tried to get away with a hip check and got caught.
Yep it’s timing. It is put in. Not to punish the offense. I coached youth basketball for 15 years I went to the clinics with professional, NBA, referees and college referees also and they teach the same thing. Timing is everything they cannot t do the hip check. I totally agree with you.
The day after and I did cry. Complaining about refs is about as useful as Eagle's fan on the Super Bowl call. And I'm a Nebraska fan!
True. He got beat and tried to get away with it. If he didn't use his hand, maybe he gets away with it.
Even with the hand i didn't see a foul there the offensive player went down which was likely a factor.
@@michaelkenny7652 What?! He clearly palmed the guy’s iliac crest and applied downward pressure. 😂
Thank you for fixing the “commercial break” thing. Appreciate what you guys do
I’m a zags fan I’m so stoked for sdsu!!
They're putting on for the Mountain West fr!
Love to those on Montezuma Mesa (et al) from FL. I'm particularly happy for "Uncle" Ted. Four decades as the Aztecs announcer. He's seen (and called) it all.
He tried to get away with one putting his hand on the guy's hip. He clearly put some weight on his hip and tried to throw him off. He just didn't get away with it.
Ticky tack soft foul
even rotated his hand to give a good push
The ball was already out of his hand before the contact and the push didn’t affect the shot. You let that go to OT.
@@jumpingbombangels2856 obviously you have never played
@@Gboogie22 11:44 clearly there’s contact while he’s shooting.
that is an obvious foul and the refs actually saw it for once.
Neutrally speaking, it was.
The problem was they were letting contact go all game til the end. Consistency is the most important part of reffing and they failed on that count.
Putting on for the Mountain West!! Thank you SDSU for this run.
A foul is a foul.
It was obvious that there were two different standards the refs used on teams. Maybe a West Coast Bias and/or Anti Midwest Bias. In fact, Nembhard was swiped on a clear foul earlier that wasn't called
@@southsider3542 Cut the inferiority complex. This game was well officiated all around. No double standard at all. If anything I detected commentary bias toward Creighton because they've been more successful in the tourney of late, but officiating was neutral to a T.
@@southsider3542 westcoast bias? Trammell beat his defender. why else put your hand on the shooter other than to affect his shot. Ref was in the perfect angle to see the clear foul. No hand, no foul can be called. its that simple
This is another year where SDSU won 30+ games in a season. I believe it was the 4th time. They were due to make the Final Four. The other thing is SDSU plays the toughest non-conference schedule yearly for Mountain West teams. In 19-20, SDSU was the last undefeated team to lose a game, starting out the season winning 26 straight before a home loss to UNLV. The other loss that season was to Utah State in the Mountain West Championship game. Then, Covid shut down that NCAA tournament.
What an unbelievable win for San Diego State and their powerhouse program. It’s about time the nation realizes how good the Aztecs really are with their great coaches. Congrats Coach Dutcher!
SDSU has been slept on for so many years. From the years with Coach Fisher to now Coach Dutcher. The players here are mostly from SoCal with vast amount of State championships and playoff experiences. They know how to compete and win
It was clearly a foul with the push in the back 💯
Absolutely, the grab turned him
As he shot.
Pure madness...
remember Aztecs always take your heart ,nothing has changed for 1000 years!
Respect for the history joke my man
EVERYTHING pointed to San Diego State. Ball tipped off of the Creighton Kid. The inbounder for Creighton was on the line when he heaved it in, and possession arrow was in SD State's direction. Congrats SD State! I like in ya grill defense from the Trammell kid. He reminds me of a combo of Robert Pack and Corey Beck!
They even started the clock late on the throw im sdsu won clearly but hats off to creighton for battling till the end go Aztecs!
I know very little about NCAA, more familiar with NBA but congrats SDSU
This gonna be a great year to be a San Diegan
#LFGSD 🏀⚾️
Congratulations, Aztecs! Feel sorry for Creighton. Great game.
right call at the end.
Way to go SDSU!!! I have lived in and around sound San Diego for the last 3 decades and even before I moved here I noticed with pro football especially, but have come to realize it doesn't matter the sport, college or pro, the announcers are always obviously favoring whoever the San Diego team is playing, as was the case today. If you're not a SD fan maybe you don't even notice. The only times I have heard it addressed is by a few of the pro football announcers giving Phil Simms a hard time because he never hid his hatred for San Diego.
Ain't that the TRUTH!!!
Good on you for noticing. Hate the Haters - they are all eating crow now. Go Aztecs!
Sometimes
I'm just happy they stopped calling us San Diego...since that's our little sister snobs at that tiny school on a hill
gotta love the pre/post game announcers too putting down SDSU throughout every single march madness game they’ve played since the first round. Every pre game commentary was about how they will get destroyed and they were rooting for the “underdog” (the other team). And when they faced Alabama, all of them were rooting for the flat out popular team this time and were saying how SDSU will get completely demolished by bama. Flat out hypocritical. In this games pregame program, they said AGAIN that SDSU defense will have nothing on creightion and all but one was rooting for SDSU to have a fighting chance. THEN when we beat them fair and square, in the postgame show all of them just whined on THEIR WHOLE SEGMENT on this game about that foul call and how it was “unfair” (props go especially to charles barkley for basically admitting he hates SDSU based on his attitude) and gave zero AND I MEAN ZERO credit/coverage to SDSU for winning the game and instead actually went over Creighton for a minute. Mind you not one second was spent on SDSU about the very game they won. I get their logic on the call because it did decide the game, BUT GUESS WHAT? The shot that was purposely messed up by the defender pushing the offender down mid air that would have gone in (the offender would have also most likely at least gotten a closer miss if he was truly unaffected by the defender since it was a relatively easy shot) ALSO WOULD HAVE DECIDED THE GAME. Even assuming it wasn’t a foul, a play messed up that would have been game changing deserves a game changing foul. Say SDSU looses right now at this moment i’m already completely satisfied since we got to prove these announcers so wrong and bring their biases against san diego, for some unknown reason you also seem to notice, out of the shadows for all to see.
@@leekato2722 are you talking about USD?
Go Aztecs
LETS GO SAN DIEGO
As a Tar Heel fan I love this outcome.
Nembhard definitely fouled him. The thing you have to look at is that Nembhard originally had a good defensive position then Trammell raced around him like he'll do to you because he's so cat-quick. So then watch as Nembhard loses ground on him and Trammell goes flying by, now Nembhard is in catch-up mode and Trammell quickly goes up for the shot, Nembhard is left with no choice but to use the hand to force Trammell off-balance. He clearly forced him off-balance but did it as discretely as possible. BUT HE GOT CAUGHT. I mean, he got beat, and tried to foul without being caught, but failed..... It's one of the best calls I've seen at the end of a game in a long, long time. It affected the shot, the ref didn't have to call it but SHOULD have called it.
Thats is dumb and doesn’t fit with reality. If that’s a foul then every play is a foul.
@@godlikemonolith - he forced him to the ground off-balance. Did you see the ball even come close to being made? it barely even hit the front of the rim....you think that's normal Trammell ? LOL 🤣🤣😆😂😂
It was a foul, but I wouldn't have called it. The reason for not calling ticky-tack fouls at the end (which this one was) is because it's a terrible way to decide a game after numerous fouls were missed earlier (or called that shouldn't have been). The old-school method of only calling legit fouls at the end is the way to play (ie getting clobbered).
@@nottelling4828 exactly, you never make that call to decide a game, never, let it go to OT.
@@nottelling4828touching someone already falling down isn’t a foul. It was BS. I am an neutral as far as fans go. Refs wanted to make a name for themselves. This isn’t about ‘let them play’ as it wasn’t even a let them play foul. It was a ‘i got money on this game foul’. Or just sheer incompetence.
It was a foul. He clearly pushed him down low. That definitely effects your shot. He got beat and he put a hand on the guy to try and make up for it.
It was dumb to put a hand on his hip to even give the ref a chance to call it but I still think it was a soft call and I had money on SDSU btw.
absolutely, refs will swallow the whistle most times there, but that was a foul... you have to call it
It was a bad call. Sorry. You guys do not have a sound understanding here.
It's quite clear that the refs had two different standards for both teams. Don't know if it's because of a West Coast bias or Anti-Midwest bias, but San Diego State were doing way worse things than this (Including a swipe that injured Nembhard's wrist that should have been a foul).
I think NCAA desperately needed and wanted a West Coast team in the Final this year
@@mkwy8782 you obviously have never played competitive basketball
i'm a life long san diegan, and i gotta say this is fantastic.
I was listening to the final minutes of this game on the radio yesterday while driving to work. This game will be talked about for years to come.
Great game,I was coming back from los cabos and met some other SD fans it was just Great Go Aztecas.
I am so happy to see SDSU finally get there due. They have good teams for many years and exciting too.
Had the defensive player not pushed off at the end, he might have gotten away with it. The pushoff mandated the foul call. You can’t knock someone down while he’s shooting mid-air.
Creighton...amazing job! My team got bounced in the first round. You had a great season, SD St as well!
SDSU let’s go!!
Great call imo at end of regu
As an Alabama fan, I do think that was a foul.
Bro stepped over the line on the inbounds
Glad someone mentioned this. Thx. Plus the inbounds down court last touched a Creighton player. Aztecs had em either way.
@@williamthorstad8848 Neither mattered. They checked the time with a stopwatch and the time apparently ran out before the ball hit the floor.
The foul was actually not controversial. It was a foul. Plain as day. The controversy is actually the celebration that was robbed from SDSU when the refs decided to review the last play and call the game at the table.
I was in the band. Crazy ending!
Creighton needed the British official from the 1972 Olympic Basketball competition to step in and give them 2 more chances...
No you didn't go there 😄😄😄😄
I am neither an SDSU or a Creighton fan, but that was clearly a foul and a very good, gutsy call made under extreme pressure. From the front view, the shooter was moving directly toward the basket in the air. The defender then grabs the shooter's jersey, pulling it back, and then pushes the shooter sideways on his hip. You can see that when the shooter is initially in the air, he is moving forward toward the basket, but his trajectory is changed MID AIR so that when the shooter lands, his momentum has now magically shifted from a forward to a sideways movement, and the shooter then falls to his side. An object stays in motion until it encounters an opposing force. Physics dictates that the defender had to have had sufficient contact with the shooter to change the shooter's trajectory in mid air. That much contact could easily effect the shooter's shot, not only by nudging it to the left side somewhat, but also by reducing the forward momentum that the ball would have if the shooter was allowed to continue moving forward. Though it is not absolute 'proof' of a foul, the shot fell short and slightly to the left side of the rim, which is the side to which the defender pushed the shooter. In slow motion, with multiple angles, and with simple analysis, this was clearly a foul. It is a tough call for Creighton, but an accurate one. Regardless of which team won this game, this tournament has been a wonderfully pleasant change from the usual big name schools dominating. This is another good example of why the college football playoffs should be expanded at least to 16 teams (but maybe even to 32 teams) :) .
As an arkansas fan.. it will be a miracle if any team left beats uconn. We were good. They played unreal so far in March
As an arkansas fan, I agree
Seems like it. I want to see a rematch of San Diego State and UCONN. Remember the Kawaii Leonard SDSU team that could have beat the Kemba Walker team that year if not for the Kemba flop. Anyway, a rematch is in order, but a different result!
Sure it didn’t have anything to do with the great big SDSU legend only scoring 12 points on 5-12 shooting. Walker had 36 I think that had more too do with them losing then some flop. 🤣🤣. SDSU beats up on trash all year mountain west is pure garbage. I’d love to see them in an actual real conference where you don’t get to pad your record on the likes of byu, cal state Fullerton, UC Irvine, Air Force, Boise state, Wyoming San Jose state. The list of trash sdsu plays is endless
Miami isn’t Arkansas and I’m an Ohio St fan 😂
@Djvid Morgan this is Miamis first final 4.. where have they been? Arkansas been back to back elite 8s then sweet 16 the past 3 years
Congratulations
This tournament has definitely been one of the most exciting and memorable tournaments in recent memory. Seems to me the higher seeds in the last couple years don’t have the advantage they always seem to have.
😊😊
For the first time watching this and all the replays of the foul on Trammell, I saw that the Creighton player, as Trammell released the shot, hooked Trammell at the ankle with his ankle. That's why Trammell fell, and that, even if the hand on the hip wasn't definitive (I think it was), made it an absolutely clear-cut foul.
Great game!!
U got me last year, I got u this year, so we r all even. Good!
SD!!
Definitely a good call on the foul.
Clock at 1.2 started late.
Heartbreaking way to lose!
Now we need whoever between San Diego State and Florida Atlantic that can beat UConn to win.
DAYGO!!!!
So Nembhard can get hacked on his arm that clearly injures him, no call, but a light bump is called. They are both fouls, but that is what people are upset about. Inconsistency.
Over 😭 time 😜 rematch was so close 🎤 to becoming a reality 🥪 and much needed 🤠
Gene Steratore, is that a joke? They couldn't find a basketball ref to do this gig?
He was a college basketball ref in addition to an NFL ref.
@@TonyXLXL - OK, but why then when the foul occurred did he initially call a '10 yard penalty' on Creighton?
I would have argued it was Arop who last touched the ball, meaning Creighton would have 0.3 seconds to try and score at the end.
I timed it with a stopwatch several times. I always had more than 1.2 secs from when the ball was touched until it landed out of bounds. Refs called it right ending the game.
The refs were right ending the game the clock started late and idk what ur seeing but on all the replays it clearly went out on the creighton player last
THE GUY ACTUALLY LOST HIS BALANCE GRABBING AT THE SHOOTER'S WAIST. EASY CALL IT WAS.
The last foul was not necessary
It is San Diego State University taking on Florida Atlantic after the 5th seeded Aztecs won the South Region on a freethrow by Darion Trammel to squeak out a 57-56 victory over the Bluejays from Creighton University. It was chaotic this ending be.
Whyd u even type this
Thank you for this information
@@DavidV619 You too. Keep it safe.
#SDSU
#GOAZTECS
#FINALFOUR
100% touched last by Creighton and 0.2 sec left, so just going by this clip I assume the clock started a little late after being touched first, but super close to call
The clock started late, they went back and retimed it and concluded it was at least 1.2 seconds from touch to out of bounds
As Ryan said, I used a stopwatch to check it for myself and got 1.21 or 1.22 seconds, so that would mean it is over - because yes, on the replays they showed you can tell the clock didn't start right away. Typically it doesn't - it is very difficult to do so because of reflex timing.
At 15:29 his foot is on the line.
I usually look for hair, jersey or head movement to help defining that call, it was a push! The inbound must be overlooked, it will not impact the result of the play! Pickle call on the last play. . .but it seems right!
This is why so many people get turned off by high level sports. The last 3 minutes take 20 minutes with all the fouls, time outs, reviews, etc.
Total foul in 2 parts. 1: holding the hip to prevent the shooters natural ascent and 2: extending the arm downward preventing the shooter from landing naturally. That was a foul from here to eternity.
It takes over 10 minutes of this video to play the last 6.7 seconds LOL
So there was some basketball played in Louisville this season.
Fr bro
Yeah and y’all didn’t make it
@@00ModernDayGypsy y'all? That's not me. I'm definitely not a Louisville fan.
SDSU should have inbounded the ball with 0.2 seconds left on the clock. I know there was nothing Creighton could have done with that, but that would have been the technically correct way to end the game.
The clock didn’t start correctly on thing when the ball was first touched. That’s why they got a stop watch out and deemed the time had actually expired
There were missed calls against both teams earlier in the game. A ref should not be the deciding factor at the end of a game. Let the teams decide by continuing play in OT. This is an unwritten rule in sports.
This was a ref game not Creighton vs San Diego St game from the start! FACTS
Refs ruined this tournament
SDSU representing MW
I know some people didn't like the call on Nembhard, but it did look like he tried to impede Trammell when he got beat on the pull up attempt. If Ryan got ahead of him and went vertical on the shot attempt, he would have gotten away with it but he reached in on his hip (trying to throw the shot off) which is a foul.
Yes, it was barely a foul but during the game they were NOT calling much worse fouls so the reason they should NOT have called the foul is that they did not call light fouls the entire game. Still, it was a foul and refereeing a game like that is very difficult and there will be calls of this nature.
From a neutral fan: How could that NOT be a foul? I’m just glad it wasn’t missed.
my dvr cut off right at the end
You never make that call to decide a game. You let it go to OT. Was it a foul? Not in this game, it hadn't been called. But was it a foul? Could've been called, but you don't do it. If he had swung to block and hit his arm, ok, or his head, ok, knocked him to the floor with full body contact, ok. But not a hand check that decides the game with 1.2.
San Diego has gotten more than their share of “ calls” in both their games this weekend !!!!!
LOL at any controversy, that clearly was a foul...
the game was over the moment he threw the ball. foot on line is a turnover bro.
Not a supporter of either team but it was clearly a foul and one that did involve hindering a player who was heading towards a potential winning basket or creating a rebound for one . Good for the ref for respecting the integrity of the game, the teams and the fans. It is to be noted that the Aztecs are the only team in the Final Four that were actually ranked in the Top 25 in the Preseason poll. UCON looks pretty impressive and I do respect Dan Hurley but it would be awfully nice to see one of the other 3 teams be the winner of the tournament .
The Creighton player had his hand hooked around the shooter’s waist when he went up for the shot… which altered his trajectory and caused the shot to go off line. Nothing wrong with that call.
If the roles were reversed, the Creighton fans would say the SDSU player fouled the shooter.
Made 1 of 2 free throws (almost gave me a heart attack when he missed the first one), and there was only 1.2 seconds left, which was enough to throw the ball all the way down to the other side of the court, and when the two players went up to catch the ball, it went off the Creighton’s player’s fingertips and out of bounds. Game over! Congratulations to SDSU Aztecs 🎉
S D S U A Z T E C S F I G H T F I G H T F I G H T ! ! !
Is it me or does this have the feeling like the ghost of Tim Donaghy was on the court?????
for yalls saying at end it should be 0.3. 1. clock started late so technically by the time it was out of bounds it should be .01 or game over. 3. you need 0.4 sec to actually be able to in bound and have player tip was over anyways if it was 0.3 or 0.2 anyways so refs just called it since for #1 reasoning and #3 reasoniong.
nope
Wrong, you can lob it near the rim for a touch a shot with .2 left... You're thinking of a catch and shoot.
I feel bad for Creighton to lose like that
Glad San Diego won, but that officiating at the end was terrible.
Clearly an offensive foul! He used his right hip to create a hyper gravity black hole, drawing the defenders left hand in to the weightless void. The call should have been reviewd by NASA, MIT and Steven Hawkins.....and ultimately reversed!
AND SPACE X ELON MUSK !!!
SDSU AZTECS !!!!
Creighton called their final timeout at the worst time and they could not advance the ball.
NCAA you don't advance the ball on a TO, only NBA.
Call or no call, it's a 50/50. Most refs would agree not to decide the game and I'd like to think on review they determine a no-call. Obviously, it didn't work out that way.
What I'd really like to know is why they never awarded possession to either team, or play out the remaining tenths of a second. I wouldn't want to have reffed this game and have my name associated with it for years to come.
The countdown from the 1.2s did not start upon touching the ball. Time actually ran out if this had started on time.
@Markovisch ok, didn't see that.
Great call. He pulled him back and caused him to prolly miss
@@dayspring3459 Agree 100%.
50/50? Such an obvious foul. Have to call it. And the Aztecs and every team has had those calls not go their way. #FINAL FOUR AZTECS
Now you can add Miami in the Final Four.
YEAH!!!!!
You just cannot guard a guy that close on the game's final shot. Nembhard was just too aggressive and should've backed off.
Actually, the ref didn't have to explain anything! Everytime the defender touches the body of the shooter, it is a foul. That is the rule!!!
Yeah bad call by the ref. At that point you don’t make that call. Was it. Yeah probably. But man was it weak. Congrats tho to both teams. Great game and 2 very fundamentally sound teams I’ve seen in a while. March brings the experienced teams to the top.
The Madness continues!!
Grats ref your a hero.
Is this a rivalry now?
Only if they meet each other in invitationals and NCAA tourneys after this.
All these people feeling sorry for the blue jays,
Just be happy the better team won today!
SDSU BABY!!!…
2:27 traveling no?
Yup the cry babies from Creighton were getting all the ticky tak fouls in the 1st quarter thanks to the refs but then they got tired in the 2nd half and had to foul and play dirty to stay in the game. Fitting way for this to end. The Creighton player was beat and beat bad by Trammel on the way to an easy basket and the Creighton player pushes and pulls down on him from the back and these cry babies from Omaha think it was no foul or a non-call LOL
The refs should have let it go to OT. Shameful.