the parts where you hear Uncle singing are even sadder when you know that the original actor died partway through making the game and that all the campfire songs Uncle sings are the original deceased actor’s performance capture
@@kjsenn the original voice actor for Uncle for RDR2, John O'Creah, died due to medical complications. the uncle we hear in pretty much all of rdr2 is the re-cast voice actor, James McBride. O'Creah's lines were all replaced with Mcbride's except for his singing
@@saltygoop3832 javier would have always sided with Dutch. Throughout the game he seems more reasonable than other gang members, but he is one of the most loyal to Dutch, and he follows him blindely
The Crow I remember when I heard Javier playing Oh my darling Clementine on his guitar, I was kind of shocked because I remembered Louis playing the exact same song, I thought the song was making a comeback
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The singing memories are the saddest because Arthur would sing along and I always found that unexpected and endearing about him.
@Gilbert Smith when I saw this party after Jack got back I instantly knew that this would be the last time were the gang could pretend to be carefree in the world. I had to record that part
@Gilbert Smith The party after getting Sean back might be my favorite moment in the game. Such a wholesome moment. It made Horsehoe Overlook a bittersweet location for me, more so than the rest.
Arthur said the money in Blackwater would come with a noose. And because John went after Micah and took that money the pinkertons found him. Arthur was right.
It's fascinating! It's like they've planned it from the beginning they knew that RDR2 is gonna be the back story of RDR1 and Arthur was written in the story from the beginning the cuz like you said Arthur told john that the money in Blackwater is a no go he warned him but he went for it and the pinkertons grabbed his ass
Rockstar games make the best stories they know how to keep us busy even after we beat the campaign and RDR2 is gonna keep going and more Easter eggs will rise and shine in the next few years. But they really can't handle online gaming I mean they usually tend to mess up big time when it comes to online gaming
Revenge is a luxury we cant afford...think about it. Dutch tried to keep stealing from the Braithwaites for revenge for his dad and Jack got kidnapped and Sean got killed and Dutch went after Bronte and got Hosea killed and Lenny killed and they got stuck in guarma. John went after Micah, got Edgar Ross back on him.
Fallen at the hands of Dutch and Micah the lives they lost was Dutch’s fault he let Micah damn everybody Molly didn’t talk Not Grimshaw but the rat we all know who the snake is and it’s only one man responsible Micah bell I’m glad you get to avenge Arthur’s Death in the end of the epilogue
Something similar happened to me! lmao I went to shady bell to hear the voices and ended up fighting against a whole gang of outlaws who were there trying to kill me
That's the tragedy of the whole story isn't it? After all his family and his caregivers went through to give him a better life, he still ended up falling into the life of an outlaw.
And then knowing you died basically not very long after this in game universe just sets a tone you don't find in gaming really. Only games I can think of is GTA sa, GTA V and Iv. Spider-Man PS4
Shows how much Rockstar thought things through, they knew some players would get nostalgic and would return to old camp sites to reminisce some old memories of the gang, so they included this for those players who do.
@@Capu57 for me it only happened when i went to horseshow no where else. so i think it is just random if it happens or not or maybe only certain times of day i have no clue but it is a real thing in the game
I visited Clemen's Point, and heard the echoes of Arthur, Hosea and Dutch all singing together on their fishing trip. That was the last real happy memory they shared.
At the time, John hardly knew his ass from his elbow and had ZERO self confidence. The only reason he expressed anger in the first place is because Authur, Dutch and Hosea unanimously took it upon themselves to move on the Braithwaites, because THEY had taken better care of Jack than John ever did (John had questioned whether Jack was even his). RDR2's Epilogue/RDR1 is when Abigail sees John become a man and a father that could raise Jack, hence the praise she gives him THEN. Abigail may have been a whore, but she wasn't stupid.
At the time, seeing that in the mission, I always feel my heart get heavy when I see john stumble back after realizing that he isn't wanted. He is my favourite out of Arthur and him, just because his character is in turmoil, and he never really gets his honour... and I sort of relate to him.
If you are a father the epic shit you do often goes unnoticed until the kids grow up and live life a little then realize...awh shit dad did that all the time. Any good wife knows you know she knows what's up and she lets you know in other ways😉
The Easter eggs in this game are fucking insane Tbh, I haven’t even thought of revisiting the camp sites.... they’d make me too sad remembering the good times
alejandro espinoza and then you would also remember all the times they got shot and ambushed. Or when the o driscolls put Kieran on a horse and made it shamble into camp...
Im honestly surprised that nobody even really cared about seans death. They pretty much only talk about it with dutch saying i dont want to think about that. Arthur is the only one who cares. Seans death hit me like a train, it literally came out of nowhere, i loved him. And obviously lenny too, but you kinda knew with how many times arthur told him he was a good man and would outlive the gang
Sean’s death was the start of everything falling apart. Sean and Lenny’s death were the most annoying deaths because there was no glory Sean just got shot out of nowhere Lenny just got shot once and fell over,didn’t even get to say any last words,neither did Sean I was really starting to warm up to both of them especially Sean Lenny was my favourite character at that point
@@asmriely7967 i agree 100 percent, this game is too well done, literally felt like my long time friend died when it happened. Like jesus lenny and i were getting drunk in a bar so long ago look where we are now
Because Sean was an annoying, shit-talking piece of garbage and a pathetic little bully? Screw him. Now, Lenny is a whole different case entirely and his death shook me truly. He was a great young man.
What happened seriously I couldn't keep my head Intact, the charming visionary and strong leader (who massacred braitwaites for a child of the gang) turned to this ,, I just simply blame Micah that virus
one of my biggest points i always make in recent the last of us 2 discussions. People seem to really forget how basic the message that last of us 2 is conveying really is and how other games were able to make the same point, in shorter time and much more effectively. Yet people still claim the last of us 2 is the masterpiece of this generation lmao.
The idea that revenge is bad in the last of us 2 is stupid because within the same game there is a revenge story that works out just fine (Abby killing Joel) but Ellie doesn’t kill Ellie for that reason. It works in rdr2 because it’s said that revenge is bad, and when John gets revenge it ends with him dying
@@Chitenho1 they just want to shoot pixels, dominate other people and get y little power kick. In case you didn't notice that's how most shooter games work ^^
Part of me almost cries when I think about the pain that John had to go through And then I realize it’s just a video game but I wonder how the developers could put so much emotion into a video game I’ve never felt this way about another video game
Arthur Morgan, despite being a fictional character in a videogame, was the first character to actually make me cry when he passed on. And I’m a 25 year old male, who’s never once gotten this emotional over a video game character. Damn you rockstar 😭
Arthur's the Best Protagonist In Rockstar History. Edit: How tf did this get so popular lmfao Edit 2: Why are people mad over an opinion wtf, anyways merry Christmas
The camp songs hit me the hardest. There's just something so depressing thinking of a time when the gang was a happy family, completely naive of the tragedy that's about to happen.
This game made me miss Arthur enough to start a new game again. That doesn't happen to me a lot. I usually restart a game because of new game plus' if they have them or just to play it differently than last time but with rdr2 it actually made me miss a character. Rockstar really nailed it with this one.
Same bro I restarted the game and I’m stuck in chapter 4 right before the bank robbery but I’m not doing any missions until I feel it’s a good time not trying to loose hosea and Lenny
Hey all I'm on the final chapter. Chapter 6 very close of the ending game. I really love the character of Arthur Morgan. And I would like to re play once again.
As John I always go to Rhodes after I finish doing ranch work just to visit Pearson and buy like one item and look at the picture he hangs on the wall that shows the old gang edit: it’s been 11 months and i sounded so depressed edit: I’m still depressed
If you keep going back a few times he says he will write to you at your ranch, nothing ever showed up for me but neither did Tilly's letter and I know that's a real thing so.. 🤷♂️
Going back to these places is already depressing, thinking about all the good times. Hearing the ghosts of the past including a lot of the dead characters only makes it worse...
Gotta love how this games touches nostalgia. At 4:45 i can feel what marston is feeling and for a game to be able to do that is absolutely incredible. One of the best games i have ever played in my life.
Strauss was seriously underrated, I understand why he was kicked out but he was tortured to death by Pinkertons but still didn’t talk, he was loyal even after he was kicked out
If you think about it what could he told the Pinkertons? The gang was already gone by the time they took him. He didnt know the wherebout of Dutch,John etc. I doubt he know the money location
@@kingf6766 I think they were still in Beaver Hollow when they captured him.. I mean why else would they interrogate him if the gang had already disbanded
@@Stormertheboy They might asked him about the money location. I doubt Strauss know anything about the money. He got what he deserved. If they caught him during Beaver Hollow he probably got no use for them anyway. They already got Micah as an informant
Look Arthur, we get more money, we get a boat, and put an ocean between us and the Pinkertons. I say we go to Tahiti and become mango farmers for the rest of our lives, trust me on this one.
This genuinely brought tears to my eyes. I know John keeps pretty much everything about the gang and his encounters with everyone to himself, but to get to hear some of the things he heard as he walked by the members...
So i restarted the game as soon as i completely finished it, and omg it's really painful playing without the gang. And it always hurts getting to the mission where Sean dies that's when the game gets depressing
Hearing the voices of his old gang just makes me realize how emotionally screwed John and Arthur were as friends and all the things John went through he just misses his family his gang
Whether its ghost voices or what John Marston could be thinking, his memories or the voices of his former gang members. Its really haunting. Its pretty much like that with anyone in real life, revisiting old places you once use to hang out with old former friends or family, knowing they're gone, passed away or living another life elsewhere.
You can interact with John and Abigail in camp after the second to last dialouge in the video. John then says something like "Take this guy for example". Arthur then says "Come on Abigail, you know a man can't change". Then Abigail roasts Arthur and goes "Some men can change, Arthur. But others just stay dumb forever"
Dr Avraham Rozenzweig It’s always worth another Play-through especially just helping people out with Arthur. I guess it just feels better because even in the end you know Arthur means well. I just wanna see what they do with the story. I know everyone is already gone and we know everyone’s faith but, it’d be nice to dig in the past for Arthur. Such a relatable yet amazing character.
When I completed the game for the first time I randomly decided to go to all the camp sites without any knowledge of this and I honestly shed* a few tears. This is one of those games that I wish I could relive the way it made me feel during the first playthrough. This game definitely is in my top three, lots of memories.
The saddest part of the entire game to me is how the gang was so close and happy at the beginning. the further you get in the game, the sadder and more torn apart the gang becomes. They start as a family singing “i’ve got a girl in valentine” laughing and having fun in horseshoe overlook despite all they've been through. To see how hostile some members of the gang became and to watch everyone lose their happiness and trust in one another was so depressing. So to me, the voices are more of a remnant on how happy the gang was at one point and how Dutch really split apart his so called “family”.
I’m so glad I naturally stumbled upon this in my save. I Respawned at horse shoe and didn’t realize where I was at first. Then I started hearing voices. I looked around and realized John was hearing this in his head. It was so emotional. Thank you rockstar for making the perfect sequel to one of my favorite games
It’d be perfect if they’d actually put a few people on fixing some of the bugs that are still there since launch 4 years ago. But it’s damn near close.
He did have a much harder life I think. Poor fella, I'd been mean as hell to if I'd been through all that. John's was heartbreaking for me because he went through hell just to get his family back and it was snatched away from him along with his life. His on and wife both witnesses the horrific death or body I should say....witch then I can only assume damned his son jack as well when he was filled with rage over his father and mother, who I assumed may have suffered hardships from John's passing. Abigail died at a young age as well. John was robbed of wat mattered to him most, his family lived in sadness and hard times afterwards, and his son was damned like him as well.
It’s sad that John is now alone and in red dead redemption John dies and now jack marston is the only member of Dutch’s gang and still lives with the outlaw life Edit: I’m sorry I’ve started ww3
This is the "Red depression" I loved this game, and I have visited a few camps and actually hearing the voices is heartbreaking. I cried everytime, especially with the faint happy singing
These break my heart so much 💔. I remember hearing them after my first playthrough and I teared up because of all the wonderful memories I had in those camps.
I think it's less that he "hears" voices, but that the memories are VERY vivid. They're moments before everything completed went awry. Word for word, the feeling and tone, he recalls the celebrations and tragedies because of how important that time in his life was.
0:33 Is no one going to talk about the deer that is Arthur’s spirit animal and then when you go to the camp you can hear Arthur’s voice? Could be coincidence
I see Eagles too (in non-traditional spawn locations when regarding Arthur) I know that the Buck is his spirit animal but with the Eagle spawning at his grave who knows?
0:28 this is really emotional as it shows the "good times" of the gang where everyone stuck together and did not betray each other, just partying and singing together. Some of these voices are from Abigail saying they must get Jack back or that John should treat Abigail and Jack better. John definetly still regrets and is ashamed of not being a better father to Jack and significant other to Abigail.
Cheng Teoh Funny enough, I agree. It’s just sad to think that he has all these fond memories with the people closest to him and now that’s really all he has of them.
It's pretty normal to hear the voices of dead people you love the most, some of which left you to die after years of being like brothers to you. That kind of trauma stays with you forever until you die. Me myself have experienced that. It is definetely not a good feeling. Doesn't let me sleep.
@The Best Moviess My grandparents died 3 years ago. When I see their home, I can feel and hear how my grandfather is speaking to me. I loved my grandparents and wish, that god give them hopefully more time to live but that‘s how life works. We have to look forward but we should not forget the past and our loved ones.
Golden Mooshroom I did kill them I did not sleep but I get out and come back there and I hear it but in horseshoe overlook clements point and beaver hollow I go back and I dont hear them
Lmao I remember I got so pissed off I killed every single one and piled all the bodies together outside the house and just threw alot of dynamite in the pile, was definitely worth it
John walks into old camp, goat runs into John
Arthur's voice: OUT OF THE DAMN WAY!!!
Christopher Buckley this needed to happen
The goat is disturbing the peace.
Timestamp pls
Lmao thanks for laugh, needed it after watching this sad video
@@randomizer368 it happened at 6:25
Uncle has lumbago, Arthur has TB, Dutch has a GODDAMN PLAN,
and John has schizophrenia
And micah has issues on his brain
Edit:Jesus fucking christ more than 500 likes?! Thanks fellas
And bill has nothing for a brain
John definitely has PTSD.
He’s definitely a psychopath
So if it's the case for John then I have it too
John: *leaves the campsite*
Arthur’s voice: “ok I’ll catch you later then”
Lol
much deserved like
John: "Cya around......... brother..."
TBH that will be a nice touch
:")
This is proof that john loved his old life and hasn't forgotten any part of it.
True.
*LUMBAGO*
I got lumbago
And dutch has a plan
And Micah is still a fucking rat
the parts where you hear Uncle singing are even sadder when you know that the original actor died partway through making the game and that all the campfire songs Uncle sings are the original deceased actor’s performance capture
wtf
Wot
@@kjsenn the original voice actor for Uncle for RDR2, John O'Creah, died due to medical complications. the uncle we hear in pretty much all of rdr2 is the re-cast voice actor, James McBride. O'Creah's lines were all replaced with Mcbride's except for his singing
Zorex O’Creahs Run
Wow that brings a whole new meaning now
Zorex so lumbago isn’t just a meme anymore?
Hearing John and Arthur speak to each other as disembodied voices after the events of the whole game is a lot to take in.
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Yep
Facts this game hit me in the feels like an anime
Yes omg im so sad
I had no idea, this was even in the game. DAMN this game is legendary
The sad thing is that all of the characters that died before arthur (Sean, lenny, hosea, Kieran) would have all sided with arthur.
Javier would have to but was put into peer pressure because of all the people Micah and Dutch had
@@saltygoop3832 javier would have always sided with Dutch. Throughout the game he seems more reasonable than other gang members, but he is one of the most loyal to Dutch, and he follows him blindely
Han Solo I know but in the final scene Javier has a hard time trying to pick wich side to side on
dont forget about susan who did side with him and got shot for it
And during the standoff Javier didnt point his gun to John and Arthur, the actor said he couldnt imagine Javier pointing his gun to his 'brothers'
John: Hears Arthur’s Voice
Arthur:You want some jelly beans?
Yes
I’d love jelly beans if it meant facing Arthur again.
@@uncleleo6706 ok fine, i think i left them at copperhead landing
@GAMING CHAMP hey there mister!
@@spoon5255 okay, thanks, mate. Also, good to see you again, mister Morgan.
And if u walk into valentine saloon u hear "LENNAY!!"
That mission was awesome !
MFrosty :( I miss them man
Sunrise suprise me too... Me too :(
LENNAYYYY MAH BOAH
Lnnye
Shame we didn't hear a ghostly "Okay, i'll catch ya later then!"
@Stripey Arse NECKLACE!?
@Stripey Arse Cowpoke.
John Fortnite Kennedy THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!!!
wait......wrong game.
Ok I'll catch ya later then
-Arthur Morgan 1899
"What's for dinner? Dysentery again?"
The most depressing are the songs, those are the moments everyone got to be happy and themselves --- together as a family.
The Crow I remember when I heard Javier playing Oh my darling Clementine on his guitar, I was kind of shocked because I remembered Louis playing the exact same song, I thought the song was making a comeback
The singing memories are the saddest because Arthur would sing along and I always found that unexpected and endearing about him.
Ah, memories.
Its sad hearing the old voices of the gang singing together.
Yeah, that's the saddest part.
someone create a mod where you hear arthur’s voice saying: “I got jellybeans, you like jellybeans?”
that would be awesome
ua-cam.com/video/BMa7-Cz7oMw/v-deo.html someone basically made one
@@Marsha_11 hahaha
@@oneseagullflock Fuck you! 😂🖕
@@cankancan9661 😉
Red dead depression an endless heartbreak
Mamamoo can use me as their thrones love the username
Jeez oh man damn right
This entire game is a fucking tragedy. Also rdr1.
Welcome to that time era Of industrialization that pushed out gunslinger or real americans
I didint cry at the end
Found it quite depressing considering all the good times that were had in some of the old camp sites.
Frfr, this game lowkey sad
Rah B high key sad as fuck bro, ending was emotional
@Gilbert Smith when I saw this party after Jack got back I instantly knew that this would be the last time were the gang could pretend to be carefree in the world. I had to record that part
@Gilbert Smith The party after getting Sean back might be my favorite moment in the game. Such a wholesome moment. It made Horsehoe Overlook a bittersweet location for me, more so than the rest.
wait this is legit?!
Arthur said the money in Blackwater would come with a noose. And because John went after Micah and took that money the pinkertons found him. Arthur was right.
It's fascinating!
It's like they've planned it from the beginning they knew that RDR2 is gonna be the back story of RDR1 and Arthur was written in the story from the beginning the cuz like you said Arthur told john that the money in Blackwater is a no go he warned him but he went for it and the pinkertons grabbed his ass
Rockstar games make the best stories they know how to keep us busy even after we beat the campaign and RDR2 is gonna keep going and more Easter eggs will rise and shine in the next few years.
But they really can't handle online gaming I mean they usually tend to mess up big time when it comes to online gaming
it's because the first rdr story, easy for rockstar makes a story that connected to rdr 1.
Joseph Hansen Arthur seemed very intuitive
Revenge is a luxury we cant afford...think about it. Dutch tried to keep stealing from the Braithwaites for revenge for his dad and Jack got kidnapped and Sean got killed and Dutch went after Bronte and got Hosea killed and Lenny killed and they got stuck in guarma. John went after Micah, got Edgar Ross back on him.
The saddest part about this is that John watched a father figure, countless friends, and a near brother all die.
And then the way Dutch and John die, it's all tragic!
@Accident Lol I just don’t understand, Arthur could have easily escaped with John. Escaped from pinkertons and Micah.
@@Coopdog0108 He would have died anyway due to tuberculosis and also he was distracting the pinkertons from John
@@Coopdog0108 he was basically dead from his TB anyway so there was no point
Fallen at the hands of Dutch and Micah the lives they lost was Dutch’s fault he let Micah damn everybody Molly didn’t talk Not Grimshaw but the rat we all know who the snake is and it’s only one man responsible Micah bell I’m glad you get to avenge Arthur’s Death in the end of the epilogue
i went to Beaver Hollow hoping to hear those voices
Instead ended up killing a bunch of cannibals in those caves
After to clear Beaver Hollow, you can hear voices - ua-cam.com/video/p5JgY5bEAKk/v-deo.html
Something similar happened to me! lmao I went to shady bell to hear the voices and ended up fighting against a whole gang of outlaws who were there trying to kill me
BRUH! That happened to me aswell i was so pissed
LoL it happens to me
Yahoo Wierdo The same thing happened to me, but right afterwards, I slept in the house and as I was walking out, I heard the voices.
Yet he hears nothing when visiting Arthur’s grave
That is a bit odd.
Finish the game to 100%
John will speak to arthur
It would mean a lot to me..
He wasn't there in the first place he left because Arthur told him to leave and to not risk his life.
Usl Aura et Angel God If you reach 100% completion and then visit Arthur’s grave, John will speak fo Arthur. It’s truly worth doing
"that poor kid. We chose this life. He didn't."
Ironic.
As in 1914, Jack guns down Edgar Ross. Effectively choosing this life.
Greatest Ever nah it was just a hit and run he became a author
That's the tragedy of the whole story isn't it? After all his family and his caregivers went through to give him a better life, he still ended up falling into the life of an outlaw.
@@mafscoolas8754 he became a author
No, he was forced into that life by Ross when he killed his father.
I ride around and stuff not really he could have took the wise words of his uncle vengeance is an idiots game
RDR Advice: Never get attached to the main character.
That's almost impossible to do honestly
@DaCheeseChungler That just a theory.
@@robertiacob2615 but that theory is the most accurate one of all
@@robertiacob2615 A GAME THEORY
too hard to do.
"We're more ghosts now than people..." -Arthur Morgan
Icelandic Sand One of my favorite quotes.
good to see you joker
@@ultraskee8649 Croc old boy! is that you?
At least say the fucking lines properly...
Niki Tr cry a river
John: *goes to the bar in valentine
Arthur's voice: *FOUND YA LENNY*
*Lenny mah boy*
ynnel?!
@@nehatrashiti2137 lneny?!
LeNnEhY
been lookin all over for you lenny!
"Hey Mister!" -Arthur Morgan, 1899
*OUTTA THE DAMN WAY*
"Sure"
“Ynnel” - Arthur Morgan, 1899
Eazyy gurlll
- arthur morgan
“Okay, i’ll catch you later then!”
-Arthur Morgan, 1899
It’s kinda depressing hearing the voices and seeing the abandoned camps, knowing you’re kind of the only one left.
And then knowing you died basically not very long after this in game universe just sets a tone you don't find in gaming really. Only games I can think of is GTA sa, GTA V and Iv. Spider-Man PS4
Pearson, Uncle, Sadie, Charles, Abigail, Trelawney, Jack: 😐
"kind of" @@Kira-pv4xq
@@Kira-pv4xq mary beth, tilly
@@Kira-pv4xqUncle and Abigail died tho
I wish i could hear Gavins voice
For just one time
He died but some words he was trampled
GAAAAAVIIIIIN
what the hell are you doing here!?
Gavin ain't here, you hear me!?
GAVVVVVVINNNNN
Gavin's Friend hahahahahahah
Just like scars. When you touch it, you remember where you got it.
That memory never goes away.
xXSilentAgent47Xx being half eaten by wolves
omfg I see you everywhere FUCK OFF!
Damn
Danky McSeal same!
xXSilentAgent47Xx acne scars
Shows how much Rockstar thought things through, they knew some players would get nostalgic and would return to old camp sites to reminisce some old memories of the gang, so they included this for those players who do.
I thought this was an edit. I went to the old camps and didn’t hear anything(or noticed) But now I’ll try it again
@Joel "Guess we're just about done old friend"
Wait is this real? I assume this video was just dubbed. I will have to go visit same former camps to check.
@@Capu57 for me it only happened when i went to horseshow no where else. so i think it is just random if it happens or not or maybe only certain times of day i have no clue but it is a real thing in the game
@@Capu57 it's real thing, i got it when i visit beaver hollow after i killed murfrees, i hear "Get the hell out of here and be a goddamn man!"
I visited Clemen's Point, and heard the echoes of Arthur, Hosea and Dutch all singing together on their fishing trip. That was the last real happy memory they shared.
Thats kind of strange considering john wasnt present for that.
@@monkeyskitz Perhaps he was there, creeping somewhere near the shoreline and listening in on them :P
you know damn well that didnt happen bruh
Hearing from John's perspective, Abigail praising only Dutch and Arthur for getting Jack back rather than including John hurts my soul.
Gabriel Bowden because Jack his son. He should thank them too.
At the time, John hardly knew his ass from his elbow and had ZERO self confidence. The only reason he expressed anger in the first place is because Authur, Dutch and Hosea unanimously took it upon themselves to move on the Braithwaites, because THEY had taken better care of Jack than John ever did (John had questioned whether Jack was even his). RDR2's Epilogue/RDR1 is when Abigail sees John become a man and a father that could raise Jack, hence the praise she gives him THEN. Abigail may have been a whore, but she wasn't stupid.
At the time, seeing that in the mission, I always feel my heart get heavy when I see john stumble back after realizing that he isn't wanted.
He is my favourite out of Arthur and him, just because his character is in turmoil, and he never really gets his honour... and I sort of relate to him.
She thanks John later during the party, I think after Javier sings that song.
If you are a father the epic shit you do often goes unnoticed until the kids grow up and live life a little then realize...awh shit dad did that all the time. Any good wife knows you know she knows what's up and she lets you know in other ways😉
The Easter eggs in this game are fucking insane
Tbh, I haven’t even thought of revisiting the camp sites.... they’d make me too sad remembering the good times
alejandro espinoza and then you would also remember all the times they got shot and ambushed. Or when the o driscolls put Kieran on a horse and made it shamble into camp...
I agree but this not a easter egg
Im honestly surprised that nobody even really cared about seans death. They pretty much only talk about it with dutch saying i dont want to think about that. Arthur is the only one who cares. Seans death hit me like a train, it literally came out of nowhere, i loved him. And obviously lenny too, but you kinda knew with how many times arthur told him he was a good man and would outlive the gang
Sean’s death was the start of everything falling apart.
Sean and Lenny’s death were the most annoying deaths because there was no glory
Sean just got shot out of nowhere
Lenny just got shot once and fell over,didn’t even get to say any last words,neither did Sean
I was really starting to warm up to both of them especially Sean
Lenny was my favourite character at that point
@@asmriely7967 i agree 100 percent, this game is too well done, literally felt like my long time friend died when it happened. Like jesus lenny and i were getting drunk in a bar so long ago look where we are now
I personally was so happy. Sean irritated the fuck out of me. Hosea and Lenny were brutal.
@@TRIIGGAVELLI but getting irritated by him was what made me like him, its just like arthur wrote in his journal, hes like an annoying little brother
Because Sean was an annoying, shit-talking piece of garbage and a pathetic little bully? Screw him. Now, Lenny is a whole different case entirely and his death shook me truly. He was a great young man.
In another dimension, these people lived as honest hard working members of society, as friends with calm, simple lives...
In another dimension where the black water heist wasn’t botched these people would have been living their separate life and have their own family
And mangos
@@spoonkey in TAHITI
Sad asf 😪 it's crazy to think at one point in time a gang similar to dutches gang met a similar fate....
Except Micah.
Walking into the old campsites really makes me feel lonely and it’s almost creepy
Same
Same
Same
Fr
Same
That money in Blackwater is cursed
Artemis Arrow hi
Cursed by strange man with tall hat, maybe.
Moneh
Tainted water. Tainted money. At least, that’s how the name “Blackwater” always struck me.
yep, sometimes it's just best to let sleeping dogs sleep.
“I just don’t want anymore folks to die, Dutch”
What happened seriously I couldn't keep my head Intact, the charming visionary and strong leader (who massacred braitwaites for a child of the gang) turned to this ,, I just simply blame Micah that virus
I am convinced that Micah is responsible for the Corona Virus
Sundowner you are here ?
“Mission failed Micah died” I don’t see the problem
RIP Hosea, the wisdom of the family, unjustly taken
“Who let the simpleton outta the asylum?”
-Arthur Morgan, 1899
"My god, I've seen mushrooms with bigger brains."
Nibba Man “you god damned maggot!”
@@Nibbenji2077 "You don't Look tough"
@@ndnironboy "I'd apologize, but don't feel like."
My favorite insult from Mr. Morgan
I heard Hosea once in the snowy area campsite, I thought I was tripping.
@Veer Pal I forgot what he said exactly , just some wise words as always
Hosea 😣😔😔
That name if fuckin awesome.... even tho we suck right now
Stop stealing my name
Oh wait it's too different
@@corirbd eh
John hears Uncle speaking and can only make out one silent word.
L U M B A G O
it's a slow and painful death brother
Somehow I knew you would say that.
GET UP
wait. uncle dies?
@@Mikee.. in rdr1 yeah
My favorite quote is
“ Revenge is a fool’s game “
- Arthur Morgan
one of my biggest points i always make in recent the last of us 2 discussions. People seem to really forget how basic the message that last of us 2 is conveying really is and how other games were able to make the same point, in shorter time and much more effectively. Yet people still claim the last of us 2 is the masterpiece of this generation lmao.
Mosherkopter We just wanted a good game not a stupid revenge game
The idea that revenge is bad in the last of us 2 is stupid because within the same game there is a revenge story that works out just fine (Abby killing Joel) but Ellie doesn’t kill Ellie for that reason. It works in rdr2 because it’s said that revenge is bad, and when John gets revenge it ends with him dying
And yet people always want revenge in red dead online
@@Chitenho1 they just want to shoot pixels, dominate other people and get y little power kick. In case you didn't notice that's how most shooter games work ^^
Part of me almost cries when I think about the pain that John had to go through And then I realize it’s just a video game but I wonder how the developers could put so much emotion into a video game I’ve never felt this way about another video game
Arthur Morgan, despite being a fictional character in a videogame, was the first character to actually make me cry when he passed on. And I’m a 25 year old male, who’s never once gotten this emotional over a video game character. Damn you rockstar 😭
xxthehuskycaboosexx The Last of Us has some pretty emotional moments too in my opinion. If you haven’t played it you should try it out.
DAMN US BOTH!
Rockstar should erect a memorial stone so Arthur Morgan will be the first and only video game character to have a grave in the real world
**loads save file with healthy Arthur**
Uncle’s terminal lumbago makes me cry every time, just imagine what he could do without it.
Arthur's the Best Protagonist In Rockstar History.
Edit: How tf did this get so popular lmfao
Edit 2: Why are people mad over an opinion wtf, anyways merry Christmas
i fully agree
Wait he is the best protagonist in the world not just in rockstar
Memer r us Yeet don’t get o ahead of yourself
Memer r us Yeet thats too far lmao, other gamers might get angry at you
Nah that’s just my opinion
The deeper and deeper I get into the game the more and more I hate Dutch and Micah.
Have you beat it already?
Not Dutch, I like Dutch
But Micah, honestly fuck him
You know, I don't hate Dutch, I pity him. He started off with a good cause but lost his way and his mind. Power fucks some people over.
Dutch dies in rdr1 sooo
@@prestongarvey4139 Hi Preston I'm your only friend I even romanced you in one of my playthroughs
The camp songs hit me the hardest. There's just something so depressing thinking of a time when the gang was a happy family, completely naive of the tragedy that's about to happen.
This game made me miss Arthur enough to start a new game again. That doesn't happen to me a lot. I usually restart a game because of new game plus' if they have them or just to play it differently than last time but with rdr2 it actually made me miss a character. Rockstar really nailed it with this one.
I felt depressingly lonely without the rest of the gang while playing as John, so I restarted the game as well
TrexAintaChicken bro same
SAME
Same bro I restarted the game and I’m stuck in chapter 4 right before the bank robbery but I’m not doing any missions until I feel it’s a good time not trying to loose hosea and Lenny
Hey all I'm on the final chapter. Chapter 6 very close of the ending game. I really love the character of Arthur Morgan. And I would like to re play once again.
It was scary as hell
No More than water
John Marston I’m mean you went
You have to be scary
Did you hear me screaming at douche van der linde?
Hi john
As John I always go to Rhodes after I finish doing ranch work just to visit Pearson and buy like one item and look at the picture he hangs on the wall that shows the old gang
edit: it’s been 11 months and i sounded so depressed
edit: I’m still depressed
Damn, never noticed the picture. I'll have to go back there.
Me too my friend
Is pearson in rhodes where i never notice that?
@@rdamzuid1406 He runs the general store in Rhodes post-Arthur
If you keep going back a few times he says he will write to you at your ranch, nothing ever showed up for me but neither did Tilly's letter and I know that's a real thing so.. 🤷♂️
Man I felt real empty while going through the epilogue, I love John man but Arthur was just a real G.
I agree
2:49 “Go on... go be with your family.” 💔
Why tf am I crying rn
That got me.😔💔
😞😞😭
I'm not crying, your crying!
Kneeco 3:00 😭
I want a dlc about the gang before the Blackwater massacre
Dyln_Gaming i want rdr3 to be that and the formation of the gang
Dyln_Gaming I want to see the Calander boys and jenny , so much talk in the first couple of chapters I want to see them
Where you play as the one shot man.
That massacre, was on 1906 the end of the band was on 1899 so it's imposible to mx this shit up
@@thewilli566 the massacre was 1899
They're all in the great campfire beyond now.
I'm still curious about where Karen ended up and if Gavin's friend eventually finds Gavin or not.
@@ChengTeoh Gavin's friend become crazy on the post game, still walking around
@@ChengTeoh Karen is still alive supposedly
@@ChengTeoh Karen is dead supposedly. The letter that Tilly sent to Beecher's Hope says that Karen died of drinking too much
Sorry for bad english
@@ChengTeoh Gavins friend with time traveling with the princess.
Going back to these places is already depressing, thinking about all the good times. Hearing the ghosts of the past including a lot of the dead characters only makes it worse...
*dont be two people at once* okay John Marston... or should I say Jim Milton
Both.
@@ripvanwinkle8053 You look a lot like Jim Milton and that damn fool Marston.
@@ripvanwinkle8053 That's what John says. Told me I was his brother
Oh hey Winkle, How yah been?
@@celetone6263 I still can't understand why we don't appear in the same cinematic.
What I hear at the end.
Arthur- "What, you see yourself as a shepard now?"
John-"Maybe."
That’s what’s said and it’s dialogue from the mission where Arthur and John go cattle rustling
Can you believe it He never was Ranching and now he ie
"I hear voices in my head
They council me
They understand
They talk to me"
Astaroth The Dark Human JOHN MARSTON OUTTA NOWHERE.
@@thelocustgod9098 LOL
RKOOOOOOOOOO
The Randy Orton theme😂😂😂
@@thelocustgod9098 watch out WATCHOUT WATCHOUT!!!!!!!!
"it's good to see you arthur morgan"
*Crying intensifies*
Didn't expect this to be emotional caught me off guard
And to this day legends speak of a old man sleeping next to a tree and if you speak to him all he says is "lumbago" then goes back to sleep
YES! That's absolutely what was missing ... the dismembered voice of Uncle complaining about his lumbago.
@@ChengTeoh yes and that and sometimes you would hear snoring in the middle of the night that would have been funny to add in the game
"I'm real sick John. Lumbago. It's a slow and painful death my brother." - Uncle
lUmBaGo
Cheng Teoh well, we got this but he wasn’t disembodied
"We're more ghosts than people."
Gotta love how this games touches nostalgia. At 4:45 i can feel what marston is feeling and for a game to be able to do that is absolutely incredible. One of the best games i have ever played in my life.
I can’t lie I’ve replied this game more times than any other video game ever that has been released this game has a special place in my heart 😢🙏🏽
@@alexistecca408 *Replayed*
Imagine if you could see john getting teary-eyed as you turn the camera
That would've been better tbh, and i can slightly guarantee some players might tear up a bit as well
Honestly I dont think John experiences most emotions anymore. After all the shit he had been through
@@yep8109 that might be true as well mr. Van der linde
@@yep8109 Arthur has been thru that same shit
@@ericbelander2319 Pain
The dislike was probably micah
Micah ain’t shit
Don't worry, Dutch has a plan.
@@XxSEETH3RxX dutch is a enemy to so they both had a freaking plan and one more big score for the bank
@@Draz_Games 🅱UCK MICAH
That little rat.
Strauss was seriously underrated, I understand why he was kicked out but he was tortured to death by Pinkertons but still didn’t talk, he was loyal even after he was kicked out
People mostly hate him cause he unintentionally gave Arthur TB
And the debting missions most likely just really upset people
When he tells Arthur "I was your friend!"
That hurt.
If you think about it what could he told the Pinkertons? The gang was already gone by the time they took him. He didnt know the wherebout of Dutch,John etc. I doubt he know the money location
@@kingf6766 I think they were still in Beaver Hollow when they captured him.. I mean why else would they interrogate him if the gang had already disbanded
@@Stormertheboy They might asked him about the money location. I doubt Strauss know anything about the money. He got what he deserved. If they caught him during Beaver Hollow he probably got no use for them anyway. They already got Micah as an informant
This kind of feels like that moment in GTAV where Micheal hears voices when he comes back to North Yankton?
Quite possible, I thought about that the moment the first voices popped up. :)
Anyone who dislikes is a damn O’Driscol
Godamn O'Driscols
Or a Pinkerton
They both an
idiot
Or a rat
Those GODDAYMME OO DRISCOLS
Look Arthur, we get more money, we get a boat, and put an ocean between us and the Pinkertons. I say we go to Tahiti and become mango farmers for the rest of our lives, trust me on this one.
Dutch Van Der Linde and then what the next dutch Tahiti? timbuktu?
You always have a plan dutch
No money we glitch the game and get 99999999999$ and donate it all dutch says “ we need more money to go to TaHiTi
Dutch, Micah, he’s a rat Dutch, he’s playing you for a fool.
LuMbAgO
*Saint Denis Flashbacks: gunshots, pinkertons everywhere, horses galloping*
*john gets arrested* ah those times
Don't man, don't. That one actually hit me like a Vietnam flashback.
LENNNNNNNY!!
Vietnam flashbacks:*
U sure those r flashbacks because that’s what I hear every time I go there
This genuinely brought tears to my eyes. I know John keeps pretty much everything about the gang and his encounters with everyone to himself, but to get to hear some of the things he heard as he walked by the members...
So i restarted the game as soon as i completely finished it, and omg it's really painful playing without the gang. And it always hurts getting to the mission where Sean dies that's when the game gets depressing
how did you restart the game??
I’m playing through again right now, and I’ve got the Bill mission in Rhodes, and I’m doing everything else but go there lol
Same I restarted to
thats when everybody started to die
Yea..
Hearing the voices of his old gang just makes me realize how emotionally screwed John and Arthur were as friends and all the things John went through he just misses his family his gang
I think I would feel sadder if I heard sean, or Hosea, and Lenny.
Leneeeeehhhh!
You hear Sean in the first camp singing Oh Molly. You hear Hosea up in the grizzly mountains and Lenny in Shady Belle talking to Arthur
What about Kieran 😣
@Kassafrass, so you got to hear the voices then. Wonderful. :D
@@ChengTeoh No, unfortunately. I watched my friend do it in his game. Not in my game yet
Whether its ghost voices or what John Marston could be thinking, his memories or the voices of his former gang members. Its really haunting. Its pretty much like that with anyone in real life, revisiting old places you once use to hang out with old former friends or family, knowing they're gone, passed away or living another life elsewhere.
You can interact with John and Abigail in camp after the second to last dialouge in the video. John then says something like "Take this guy for example". Arthur then says "Come on Abigail, you know a man can't change". Then Abigail roasts Arthur and goes "Some men can change, Arthur. But others just stay dumb forever"
She roasted john not me
@@syv4192 😂😂😂
"Go with your family" GODDAMNIT WHY!!! I am crying damn it
void tamaki That was what got me too... Arthur deserved better.
Lol
This makes me so sad hearing this. 😦
Dr Avraham Rozenzweig
It’s always worth another Play-through especially just helping people out with Arthur. I guess it just feels better because even in the end you know Arthur means well.
I just wanna see what they do with the story. I know everyone is already gone and we know everyone’s faith but, it’d be nice to dig in the past for Arthur. Such a relatable yet amazing character.
When I completed the game for the first time I randomly decided to go to all the camp sites without any knowledge of this and I honestly shed* a few tears. This is one of those games that I wish I could relive the way it made me feel during the first playthrough. This game definitely is in my top three, lots of memories.
I think the worst things to hear at those places are:
PLAN
MONEY
LOYALTY
lol, oh poor Dutch. btw, are you enjoying the game?
@@ChengTeoh absolutely love it
@@ChengTeoh that gae so game even better than enjoying it it's amazing
No i'tw th witness sound effect on John's head
Tahiti
Go to Tahiti to clear your mind
We need a damn plan
*Ends up in Guarma*
GrandJediMaster7860 goddamn it
Anakin Skywalker I have a goddamn *_P L A N_*
@@DarthVader-sp8fe With or without a plan we do not grant you the rank of master.
Damn, that's effective as hell. You really feel like John in that moment. Reminiscing on the past.
The saddest part of the entire game to me is how the gang was so close and happy at the beginning. the further you get in the game, the sadder and more torn apart the gang becomes. They start as a family singing “i’ve got a girl in valentine” laughing and having fun in horseshoe overlook despite all they've been through. To see how hostile some members of the gang became and to watch everyone lose their happiness and trust in one another was so depressing. So to me, the voices are more of a remnant on how happy the gang was at one point and how Dutch really split apart his so called “family”.
I’m so glad I naturally stumbled upon this in my save. I Respawned at horse shoe and didn’t realize where I was at first. Then I started hearing voices. I looked around and realized John was hearing this in his head. It was so emotional. Thank you rockstar for making the perfect sequel to one of my favorite games
most times the best moments in gaming comes along when you least expect it. :)
@@ChengTeoh words of wisdom
It’s a prequel
The same thing happened to me when I heard the voices but then i got of out the tent and realized I was at the campsite
It’d be perfect if they’d actually put a few people on fixing some of the bugs that are still there since launch 4 years ago. But it’s damn near close.
When I heard Arthur voice I nearly shed a tear shit was so sad how he went
Question is which way did he die for you at least?
It was bad but John's was worse in my opinion
I feel bad for Arthur, lost his wife and son, gets betrayed, and dies in his mid 30’s..
He did have a much harder life I think. Poor fella, I'd been mean as hell to if I'd been through all that. John's was heartbreaking for me because he went through hell just to get his family back and it was snatched away from him along with his life. His on and wife both witnesses the horrific death or body I should say....witch then I can only assume damned his son jack as well when he was filled with rage over his father and mother, who I assumed may have suffered hardships from John's passing. Abigail died at a young age as well. John was robbed of wat mattered to him most, his family lived in sadness and hard times afterwards, and his son was damned like him as well.
Same
"Face me to the west so I can watch the setting sun and remember all the fine times we had that way..."
#ArthurMorgan
Shit i have wet eyes reading your comment
@@jerrywasaracecardriver8893 I have never cried for a human as much as I cried for Arthur Morgan... the best man I've ever known...
😔
it was the sunrise
@@voicelessglottalfricative6567 way to ruin it 😂
You should get an achievement called “Reminisce” for revisiting all of the campsites as John after completing the game
It’s sad that John is now alone and in red dead redemption John dies and now jack marston is the only member of Dutch’s gang and still lives with the outlaw life
Edit: I’m sorry I’ve started ww3
OSHUN GAMING wouldn’t abagail also be a member?
@GHOSTRIDER4991 is her name really mary beth gaskill? kinda cool
Bill and charles were still alive and mary beth idiot
@@damicow mary beth is the one whi got shot by that miss grimmshaw right?
@@claudy8857 its Moly o shea i guess
Hearing Sean's voice though-
When
@@Luigimansion-kq7bb 3:34
This is the "Red depression"
I loved this game, and I have visited a few camps and actually hearing the voices is heartbreaking. I cried everytime, especially with the faint happy singing
red dead depression 2
These break my heart so much 💔. I remember hearing them after my first playthrough and I teared up because of all the wonderful memories I had in those camps.
I miss Reverend and Uncle's singing
ditto
One night when I was friskey
Reverend have never singed in the entire game
Оленька Данкова
He did, it scared me as hell because he singing near Arthur’s camp when it was morning, he was so loud.
@@mrmelons8404 over some potent wiskey
I think it's less that he "hears" voices, but that the memories are VERY vivid. They're moments before everything completed went awry. Word for word, the feeling and tone, he recalls the celebrations and tragedies because of how important that time in his life was.
People are dumb.. Theyve done the exact same thing in movies for decades
“We ain’t both gonna make it” 🥺😢
I’ve pushed all I can
"You're my brother"
Yeah And Ain't Make it Pinkertons Kill John And Micah Kill Arthur
:(
I think I've pushed all I can.
4:21
John- "We chose this life! He didn't."
Arthur- "Ion know, I think this life chose us."
I like how there’s 5 different “Dutch Van Der Lindes” in the comments.
Good bye brother.
:(
Err-thurr no plz fren! i cry ebrytyme
Pearson: *Looking At Old Gang Photo*
Arthur :(
Sadie Adler Arthur misses you a lot ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
0:33 Is no one going to talk about the deer that is Arthur’s spirit animal and then when you go to the camp you can hear Arthur’s voice? Could be coincidence
that's an interesting thought. it is entirely possible that Arthur's spirit animal will appear before the past voices triggers.
I see Eagles too (in non-traditional spawn locations when regarding Arthur) I know that the Buck is his spirit animal but with the Eagle spawning at his grave who knows?
You could really find deers at that area because it's very common obviously.
@@c00mgoblin The eagle are reicarnation of Eeagle Flies soul
@@undeadjohnmarston4661 Nah I doubt it's a reincarnation it's probably supposed to be a reference. RDR isn't exactly spiritual
0:28 this is really emotional as it shows the "good times" of the gang where everyone stuck together and did not betray each other, just partying and singing together.
Some of these voices are from Abigail saying they must get Jack back or that John should treat Abigail and Jack better. John definetly still regrets and is ashamed of not being a better father to Jack and significant other to Abigail.
Can I just say. This is sad as hell.
Yes, sad and creepy. I'm hoping it's just voices he's hearing in is head and not actual disembodied voices in nature. XD
Cheng Teoh Funny enough, I agree. It’s just sad to think that he has all these fond memories with the people closest to him and now that’s really all he has of them.
It's pretty normal to hear the voices of dead people you love the most, some of which left you to die after years of being like brothers to you. That kind of trauma stays with you forever until you die. Me myself have experienced that. It is definetely not a good feeling. Doesn't let me sleep.
You're alright boah
Edit:been waiting to say that
Btw im sorry if you lost someone
Boah: same here.
my best friend commited suicide, i still hear his voice.
Hey man. I feel u. Please take care
@The Best Moviess My grandparents died 3 years ago. When I see their home, I can feel and hear how my grandfather is speaking to me.
I loved my grandparents and wish, that god give them hopefully more time to live but that‘s how life works.
We have to look forward but we should not forget the past and our loved ones.
1:56 I can’t hear voices in this camp because the damn lemoyne raiders are always there
adrian montoya what you need to do is kill them all and sleep at a portable camp for a day, go back and you should be able. Hear sometimes.
Golden Mooshroom I did kill them I did not sleep but I get out and come back there and I hear it but in horseshoe overlook clements point and beaver hollow I go back and I dont hear them
They are rare to get
Lmao I remember I got so pissed off I killed every single one and piled all the bodies together outside the house and just threw alot of dynamite in the pile, was definitely worth it
Fucking Shady Belle lmao.
5:40
Arthur: what? You see yourself as a shepherd now?
John: maybe. come on
It's from the last mission of chaptor2
Uhm ackshually its the second last 🤓