Not angry, just frustrated that you obviously don't know the definitions of the words you use (eg. "choice"), and thus you demonstrate that when you use them you don't know what you're talking about.
How is it that myself, raised by two atheist parents and being an alcoholic, living on the streets for years started to pray one morning and was literally struck sober. A peace that "is" beyond all understanding fell upon me that literally felt like...I can't explain it, and remained for 3 day's, all i could do was sit, and be still, i was bathed in it, and never had the compulsion to drink again...pure grace, i don't care what anyone say's...i know what i know through direct experience, and that "is" truth
I had the same thing happen to me. Except the presence of God stayed with me for 3 months. I was an atheist too. I had nothing to do with my belief in God and my faith in Jesus. God saved me, I contributed nothing.
@@wantlearning Maybe say born of Adam? and Satan's influence reigns in the reprobate sons of Adam, for their destruction. For those in Christ, his influence is limited and works for their good.
I showed this one to my students today. They cracked up about the kid who went crazy and crashed into a telephone pole. This is one of my favorites of yours!
it is a psycholigal trick ... I once read an article that you are more likely to agree to his content when you first agreed to him to an other topic. So of course you agree that you shouldn´t sell drugs to kids, and know your mind is more likely to agree to his content on calvinism, which itself is highly controversial and proven not to be biblical.
Calvin did not do away with free will. He holds that humans are free to do as they choose while God is still sovereign over all. It's seemingly contradictory, but Scripture affirms both, and so does Calvin. A simple reading of his section on Providence in his Institutes will clear this up for you. He does NOT eliminate a human's ability to make choices.
Razvan Stoian only the actions completely don't MATTER! A damned human being, created by God that way, who lives a good and holy life is damned. And an elect just WON'T mess up because God programmed him to be good. That is a farce of a doctrine.
You're right it is, that is why Calvinists do not believe that. Everyone is a sinner without exception. And the only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ, it has nothing to do with personal works.
+Jonathan Kotyk And, that is a sad and hopeless way to preach "salvation." Why would Jesus offer, "The words of eternal life" to those he CREATED to be DAMNED! I am passionate about this because it is offensive to me. Every human is called to Christ, period. An "elect" is a human devise to separate followers from their Brothers and Sisters in Christ. The "Good News" can save everyone; why is that debatable?
That Guy The sacrifice Jesus made is capable of saving everyone, but it will ONLY save those who are called to repentance. No one comes to Jesus unless it is the will of the Father. The scripture is clear, God chooses some and not others, why this is is unknown and it is a hard thing for some, to acknowledge that God is sovereign over all creation, but His word says we are all sinners and that no one searches for God, not one. S He must come find us. Faith is a gift from God, it does not come from us. Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[b] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. 19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory Ephesians 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
"The scripture is clear, God chooses some and not others" that is ABSURD. That doctrine violates the spirit and the intent of the Gospels. We do not worship AN EVIL AND CAPRICIOUS GOD! I am simply disgusted, sorry.
I love your examples. I have been around a lot of people who try to connect with young people, but they are just so awkward and sheltered, that they just came off as extremely cheesy. Like it would physically hurt listening to them try to connect, and you would find yourself messageing your temples, trying to make the migraine stop. You have more humor in you message, and I think that is where the connection is made. Good job man.
I'm studying for my CSET. These videos are extremely helpful. I wish more history teachers posted videos about history. thanks for taking the time to post!
frank dunleavy Hmm I do not think you worded your statement correctly, because if a person does something like "eat dinner" even if they were predestined, they are still, in fact, eating dinner, does not matter if they are doing it autonomously or predestined, they are still performing that act either. It is not that they "wouldn't" be doing it.
frank dunleavy You point out exactly why the original quote is stupid, because it misses a key word in it's phrasing "presently", no duh "presently" you are not believing, that is as enlightening as stating the sky is blue.
frank dunleavy Oh and also, ALL actions are predetermined, regardless if they are made by man or God, just God simply "existing" means that every action is going to come about at exactly the moment they come about "without possibility of deviation" because God sees all actions, past, present and future, all at once. Both views are fatalistic, only difference is once view is a man centered fate, and the other is a God centered fate.
If you happen to be living in an isolated island where a community lives and is fairly literate, and for the first time and have read the new testament; would you be able to deduce/extract TULIPS and calvinistic theology from it? Or would you be a believer and see Jesus, devoid of any calvinistic ways of seeing theology?
Don't need to read it. My God-given brain tells me the Calvinist god is so evil that it just can't be true. I guess the mere fact that I am disgusted by Calvinism means I'm not of the elect, right?
Do you believe God is omni-prescient? In other words, does God know all things beforehand? Or, do you believe that God knows only _some_ things beforehand? Or, do you believe that God is ignorant of all things, or any thing, beforehand?
"...good reasons to believe _both_ views..."? But aren't 'both views' contradictory to one another? How can you hold to both views when they contradict? Are you saying that it's okay to believe in contradictions? Just wondering.
I loved the video!!! Very good energy, funny and I loved that you explained everything that was needed to get a better understanding of the next topic.....Great Job!
According to Calvinism, was the crowd who shouted 'Hosanna' the Elect? Why or why not? [ Mt 21:9, 15; Mk 11:9-10 and Jhn 12:13}. Obviously, I have my own position but I am curious to know what the Calvinist has to say.
You are an excellent teacher and did a fantastic job of summarizing Calvinism. I was once a staunch Calvinist, although rejected Limited Atonement. I still reject it. Also, I am not identifying myself as a Calvinist anymore. I think the subject is so deep that I just consider myself a bible student who tries to understand the subject.
Thank you! I'm glad you appreciate what I was trying to do here - just teach without endorsing or condemning Calvinist doctrine. Nearly every video on UA-cam about Calvinism is persuasive rather than informative. Having been on both sides, you can appreciate this more than most.
Your god made all those in hell go there out of His joy to damn them.Calvinism god who judged those he himself made sin and he himself forced to sin.He Himself refuse to save . . No point in even having a bible or witnessing to anyone, because all those saved were already saved before they were born . No point in anyone pointing out false teaching because no one cannot be unelected . Illogical Calvinism
B Hog: Since you rejected Calvinism, how do you deal with Romans 9:15, 21; John 6:37-40 and John 10:27-29? I've watched a lot of debates and have yet to see an Arminian refute these passages clearly or consistently.
20july1944 Again, as with your other question, I don't ask God why He created some for salvation and some for destruction. As a side note, your logically fallacious appeals to emotion to try to discredit the clear teachings of scripture are futile. The scriptures are clear that God is the potter and we are the clay, and some are made for "honorable use" and some for "common use" (Romans 9:20-22). God is the one who decides who is to be saved and who is to be damned. In the end, we will all be judged by our works (Revelation 20:11-14). If we do not have the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ imputed to us, we will be cast to hell. If we have faith in Him, His righteousness is imputed to us, His righteous deeds become our righteous deeds, and our sins become His sins, and we attain heaven. That's it. I don't ask God why some go to hell and some don't. He is in charge. We are like grasshoppers compared to the awesome might and glory of God (Isaiah 40:22).
Sorry you're not making heaven. The reason being overly clever in a social media way. Social media was not created by GOD. Therefore playing clickbait and looking for likes in anti calvinism. I am law.
No one here criticizing Calvin really understands Reformed theology. They criticize what they think Calvinism is without really understanding it and it's basis in the bible. You'll notice that people who typically abhor Calvinism usually (not always) refrain from using scripture to bolster their arguments, but instead use appeals to emotion and straw-man arguments (logical fallacies). They start with man and work their way up to God, instead of reading the scriptures and starting with God and how He deals with mankind and our rebellious nature. All mankind are sinners (Romans 3:9-12, 3:23) and cannot please God (Romans 8:7-8). Those who have not been saved are in sin and are sinful by nature; in fact, they love sin so much that they are *completely dead in sin* (Ephesians 2:1). It is completely *fair* and *just* for God to destroy all of us for our own sins (Rom. 2:6-9). However, those who are saved no longer live according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit (Romans 8:4). Only God can raise people from spiritual death to spiritual life through Jesus Christ (Romans 5:18). Remember, *we cannot please God* until God raises us to spiritual life (Romans 8:7-8). It is God who chooses to bring to life, not us. How can we, puny humans, complain against the Lord of the Universe, who He chooses to save? (Rom. 9:15, 21). No man can come unto Christ except the Father draws us, and it is they who the Father chooses who will believe in Christ and will be lifted up at the last day (John 6:37-40). Read John 6:37-39, 10:27-29, Romans (especially chapters 3 - 9), Galatians, and Ephesians. There's Calvinist theology all throughout these books. It's only the natural man who says "but the Calvinist God is evil!" without actually reading these passages and believing them. Until you believe that man is naturally **dead in sin** because of the fall and *only God* can bring them to life, you won't understand Calvinism and you'll continue to make straw mans and use manmade philosophies to support your own morality as opposed to God's. *Nowhere* does it say in the Bible that man's free will is *more powerful than God's*. That's the whole point of Romans chapters 8-9. God bless and good luck to everyone. Hope these passages help.
The clay can be a vase. A bowl, picture for water or a pot. Did God give hands to rebell against him? The clay is what the potter makes. God has not made that rebellious clay. Rebels are who become rebellious. So was that the purpose for which God made man? Does a father make a son for his son to rebell? Jesus Xhrist may have taught rebellion '(Mather 10 he came not to bring peace but a sword. To turn son against father and daughter against mother)' but he was nailed to a cross. The clay may be fired.
Then fire away, if it be your god's will. Fun fact: when he said 'let there be Light' it was an act of invitation. Time is the tool whereby space is utilized, and Light moves through space in time. Light is in the atmosphere. Light made us a promise. Light will make good on it.
I can't believe I only found your videos this late in the school year!! thank you for uploading them! they're very informative and I love the way you explain everything. :)
katelyn ramirez , by your expression I guess you must be a Calvinist. Do me a favour to comment according to your calvinism theory for the following verses of the bible; (Rom 4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Before you start I want to state some of the calvinist's principle that is only the elect can be saved as Christ only died for their sins (limited atonement). Now on rom4:5b ".....that justified the ungodly.....". by applying calvinism theory the ungodly must be the elect as only the elect can be saved then what about the non-elect? the non-elect must be classified as the godly because there are only two classes of believers. It is explicitly clear that your doctrine of calvinism is flawed by the above comparison. Another verse for your comments; . (Luk 19:10) For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. Luk19:10b; " come to seek and to save which was lost" according to your theory on salvation only the elect can be saved. Thus the lost must be only the elect. So the non-elect is not lost. How ludicrous it sounds, isn't it? Appreciate your comments please.thank you.
katelyn ramirez, don't be deceived by the teaching of calvin as it is not biblical. for example , on pedestination calvinism says "God predestinated some to be saved and other to be destroyed". Please refer to these only 4 verses in the whole bible about God's predestination and to verify Calvin's doctrine on predestinaton; (Eph 1:5) Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (Eph 1:11) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (Rom 8:29) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. (Rom 8:30) Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Please read the above the only 4 verses on God's predestination found in the bible and compare it with the teaching of Calvinism on predestination. Does any of the verses says "God predestined some to be saved and other to be destroyed"? . You still don't believe me and here are the facts: Calvin most definitely did believe in double predestination. This is what he wrote and taught: "The predestination by which God adopts some to the hope of life, and adjudges others to eternal death, no man who would be thought pious ventures simply to deny….By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death". (This is a copy from Calvin Institutes of the Christian Religion Chapter 3.21.5). Do read for yourself what Calvin really taught and you decides for yourself and don't simply listened to their sweet talks as I have proved it to you biblically. Your comments please. Thanks
@@93556108 Soteriology eh. Looked it up means Salvation. "Apple Pie in the sky that's what Jesus promises when you die". With the pious cocking there Nuclear bombs both Biden and Putin for WW3 with the callapse of Holy Capitalism and human rights. Mind you that is true Global warming the Capies love to end their Gobbledegook speeches with! Off we all go to the "Big rock candy mountain"!
My favorite part. "STEVEN RUNS INTO A TELEPHONE POLE AND BAM! HE'S DEAD!!!" Just the conclusion of that story made me laugh a lot. Awesome videos, thank you. I've been watching a lot of them and it makes things more clearer to understand because I cannot retain info fast in my a.p euro class like my other classmates. Thank you so much :)
Hey Tom. Great videos. Is it fair to say that with irresistible grace, one will turn back from their sin and serve God completely? Or does irresistible grace mean that one can still remain in sin and be saved? I often wonder how one could feel this type of awesome grace and remain a thief or a robber.
I really enjoyed this video, I was able to further grasp the concept of Calvinism based on your specific examples and modern examples. The idea of reformed theology as well as systematic theology was completely new to me and this video helped me understand what it entailed and how it played into Calvin's views.
I am a calvinist and my senior pastor taught me that there are several things that cause life to happen: Your enviroment, The laws of nature, Your Free Will, ect. And, God is not the main cause. So dont blame God for everything.
An expanding and (roughly) chronological list of Tom Richey videos (with a few others mixed in) Unit 0 ua-cam.com/video/5PMdpW4ATvI/v-deo.html, The Franks ua-cam.com/video/0b76jyFUcU8/v-deo.html, feudalism ua-cam.com/video/dBwqeO6LAu4/v-deo.html, chivalry Unit 1: Renaissance and Exploration ua-cam.com/video/DcCojSiNAqc/v-deo.html, Renaissance and exploration (AP European History: Unit 1) ua-cam.com/video/tIcmPM0zwQQ/v-deo.html, Italian renaissance ua-cam.com/video/nWNZh913458/v-deo.html, Northern renaissance ua-cam.com/video/6-kqN_SniXc/v-deo.html, Humanism, Free Will, and the All Nighter ua-cam.com/video/pdbuYbxMy8A/v-deo.html, Petrach (not a Richey video) ua-cam.com/video/WSsRxMRUqvI/v-deo.html, Headbanger Humanism (August Burns Red and the Renaissance) ua-cam.com/video/-EDxoHp4fJ0/v-deo.html, Renaissance Art ua-cam.com/video/nlLQOUnOrZU/v-deo.html, Machiavelli ua-cam.com/video/TAGEus5FcrU/v-deo.html, The Book of the Courtier (Castiglione's Guide for the Renaissance Man) ua-cam.com/video/1d1xGj0cx9A/v-deo.html, The Courtly Lady of the Renaissance (Book of the Courtier: Part 2) ua-cam.com/video/Dh-hLauV_nM/v-deo.html, The Sack of Rome in 1527 (not a Richey video) ua-cam.com/video/J1kZNKmtl4k/v-deo.html, Mannerism (Late Renaissance Art) Unit 2: Age of Reformation ua-cam.com/video/Z4RNYQscm0w/v-deo.html, Causes of the Reformation ua-cam.com/video/5UQTSNL_688/v-deo.html, What is Purgatory? (Catholic Doctrines) ua-cam.com/video/a2irHpvLr7I/v-deo.html, Martin Luther's Reformation (live lecture) ua-cam.com/video/bY9lSNfOWZY/v-deo.html, Martin Luther's Doctrines (Reformation Theology) ua-cam.com/video/KZARuVXiH8k/v-deo.html, Calvinism (Introduction to John Calvin's Reformed Theology) apstudents.collegeboard.org/courses/ap-european-history, AP European History units
CHAPTER IX. Of Free Will. I. God hath endued the will of man with that natural liberty, that is neither forced, nor by any absolute necessity of nature determined to good or evil. II. Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom and power to will and to do that which is good and well-pleasing to God; but yet mutably, so that he might fall from it. III. Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation; so as a natural man, being altogether averse from that good, and dead in sin, is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereunto. IV. When God converts a sinner and translates him into the state of grace, he freeth him from his natural bondage under sin, and, by his grace alone, enables him freely to will and to do that which is spiritually good; yet so as that, by reason of his remaining corruption, he doth not perfectly, nor only, will that which is good, but doth also will that which is evil. V. The will of man is made perfectly and immutable free to good alone, in the state of glory only. THE WESTMINSTER CONFESSION OF FAITH (1646)
David, nothing that you said makes any sense. People love to throw around straw-man arguments, calling people Jesuits, and using non-sequiturs to "prove" their arguments. Roman Catholicism has nothing to do with Calvinism; Roman Catholics are works salvation, whereas Calvinists believe only God can save us from death and sin (see my post earlier). Hoping and praying you come to a knowledge of the truth.
Well, since you are asking a loaded question, all I have to say is that I do not desire anyone to suffer eternal hellfire. But Jesus declared that those who do not believe Him would suffer such torment. What I "feel" about the issue is inconsequential. It's like asking "how does it make you feel that 2+2=4?" Feelings have nothing to do with it. Truth is truth. The gospel makes no difference about how I "feel". God declares truth and we must accept it. We must accept God's decree and trust in Him. According to our incredibly limited human minds, some things may seem atrocious. But I trust in the completely holy, loving, good God that He knows what He is doing with His creation. It isn't up to us, as His creations, to shake our fist at God and demand He do anything (Romans 9:20-21). He is the potter and we are the clay; He can do whatever He would like with His creation as He sees fit (Ephesians 1).
Daric: No, what you *feel* about the issue shows me your ethics, how you follow Jesus's 2nd great commandment. Jesus told you to love and forgive even your enemies, and it turns out that you do -- you "do not desire anyone to suffer eternal hellfire." Given that, you (and I) are *far more loving than Jesus,* Who not merely *hates* them *unforgivingly* enough to punish them in hell forever, but *hated* them so much even before they existed that He *made* them for that horrible purpose. Thus, you and I are more loving and forgiving and thus "Christlike" than Christ, which is passing strange!
Thanks so much I study philosophy and religion and never knew that aspect about Free Will brilliant synopsis about capturing the iconoclasm of this highly unique group .
I will never lay the blame for men rejecting God on God himself. Name one that God does not desire to see in his kingdom. You cannot, because he desires us all. We do in fact have a responsibility toward God. And a man with a responsibility is a man who is able to respond. If we are able to respond to the Gospel, then we are accountable.
Correct- he is God! And because he is God I believe He is big enough to allow us our free will to respond to the calling or o reject Him - I can not believe that He bothered to create a world full of pre-programmed robots. Why would He allow Jesus to suffer the cross if He had already decided who would come and who would not? Why is the bible full of warnings against being deceived - if it isn't a possibility because we are predestined?
I agree that All things work together wor together for the good of His people- where I have a problem with this line of teaching is in the belief that He has hand picked who shall be saved- I believe the passage referring to predestination refers to the fact that He is God and therefore He knows who will and will not accept His open invitation to ALL mankind rather than the idea that He has before hand chosen some to be saved and some to be damned. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.
So you are a believer in predestination in the sense that there are people here on earth that are just damned due to no fault of their own. That is to say, that these people can not be saved by hearing the call, because God has excluded them? Now, these people are also not included when in John 3:16 For God so loved the WORLD that he gave His only begotten Son, that WHOsoever believes on Him shall have everlasting life.... You do not believe that scripture to mean that any and all people have the open invitation to believe on God and His gift of salvation through Jesus? This is what I do not understand. I believe God knows all, sees all, is above all, is the only God - and He is all wise etc. Yet, He is loving, longsuffering, kind, forgiving and He meant what He said- He will forgive anyone that believes and repents. The idea that he is God and therefore already knows who those people that will "choose" to accept or deny Him - makes sense to me. That they can NOT choose and are preprogrammed to either serve Him or deny Him is a concept I can not accept. This is where I can not agree with this line of thinking. But I know others that do, and I call them my brother and sisters. However I just do not agree with this doctrine. It doesn't mean I question anyones love for God or relationship with Him.
yes you see- you just said they are condemned already- and yet it did not mean the whole world. If it didnt include them- then they had no chance or choice to repent- that is what you are saying? but you don't want to be pinned down to saying it. And on this I vehemently disagree. Yes man is nasty, ugly, sin filled, prideful etc etc and trust me I can grasp it. I have been saved for 38 yrs and I have at least a very general understanding of the gospel and its message but where you and I differ is that I believe that He sent His son to extend His love and forgiveness to ANY and all that will come. And while I understand that he calls us and draws us and that it is not by works, nor by own deeds- but it is the gift of God- I believe it is a gift He offers to ALL mankind.
As I said - You believe that the unbelievers are predestined to not believe- I believe it is a choice they make- to shun Him and His gift of Salvation- and that those of us that do hear the call and repent are saved by His grace but we chose to follow Him. Yes He chose us as He chose Israel- but just as Israel has many that have rejected Him- so do we have the choice. Choose ye this day Whom you shall serve.
Found this after Michael Pollan mentioned calvinists in his book "The Botany of Desire". Listening to the audio book through the Pub. Lib. Syst. He's writing about Tulips in Holland (a calvinist nation in 1634-37 when the tulip apparently caused some trouble to their economy.
Holland was not a “Calvinist” nation. Many craftsman in The Netherlands were Protestant. Upon gaining freedom from Spanish control, the Netherlands became a destination for Protestants and Jews throughout Europe.
Lance Watson, since you proclaimed this presentation was excellent then I supposed you must have some knowledge on Calvinism. Thus tell me Calvin's notion of double-predestination, is it biblical? thanks
Lance Watson, this is a heretical doctrine and why are you recommending subscription from others. Calvinism taught this doctrine as stated below and do you think it is biblical? The facts are: Calvin most definitely did believe in double predestination. This is what he wrote and taught: "The predestination by which God adopts some to the hope of life, and adjudges others to eternal death, no man who would be thought pious ventures simply to deny….By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death" (An extract from Institutes of the Christian Religion Chapter 3.21.5) Please read for yourself and would our loving God will engaged in such an evil act on man made in His own image as suggested by Calvin? I let you be the judge. Thanks.
Calvin didn't do away with free will. He taught that man's will is bound by sin and is a slave of sin, and because of this, they cannot do anything right
Shawn Durham, seems like a devout Calvinist. Please share with me whether Calvin's doctrine of double-predestination, is it according to the predestination as taught in the Bible. Thanks
@@nicolethomps.n I don't find your statement's notion in the bible. Please elaborate further what message you tried to convey or quote to me the bible verses so that I could give you a more accurate comment.
@@nicolethomps.n You falsely assume as taught by vain human philosophy that fallen human creatures are good, when the Bible says the direct opposite. Prior to God's work of regeneration, all humanity are followers of Satan and continually live by the desires of the flesh. Ephesians 2 2 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air(Satan), the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body[a] and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. "when we give our lives to Christ our spirit then becomes one with the Holy Spirit and we have His strength to overcome sin." So, you expect to be rewarded with salvation because you do good. How very pelagian!
@@93556108 Your comments appear to have the subtext "Go ahead and try, you simple soul, and I will quickly 'refute' for you what you say". You may as well go ahead and write " 'Please' give me research and documentation so that I could just go ahead and reject everything you'll say like I've already made up my mind to do anyway. " If you are _really_ interested in Calvinist exegesis, then you could do worse than reading a few pages from Calvin or other Calvinist authors. If you haven't done so, then you should do so since you seem ready to debate the point, and it's silly to debate the point without the required learning. If you _have_ already done so, then maybe _you_ could say what it is that you find disagreeable in your research into Calvinist exegesis. So "please share with me", by all means
@@nietzschesghost8529 I am a Christian and the bible is the sole authority for my faith and practice. I am not interested in Calvinists exegesis as I don't agree to Calvin's doctrines (TULIP) which is unbiblical. For example Calvin taught double-predestination and its concepts are no where found in the bible.
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So why would a God punish you for something you had no control over? Calvinism makes no sense, punishing a person for not worshipping a God they were predestined not to do anyway, the Calvinist God seems like a sick sociopath in my opinion
+Nicky Bennett I think it was a response to the world, where your life was determined by the family where you was born. If your parents are peasants - you are stuck with it, social mobility is minimal. And if you are not from the nobles - better to get used to the fact that your life is in someone`s hands and you have no control over it.
A Calvinist would respond by saying that God can do whatever he pleases in order to accomplish his purpose or to glorify his name. Yes, it's pretty disgusting. I'm actually very fascinated by Calvinists. Somehow, they can maintain this belief in a truly despicable god and still profess love for him. I always wonder what they really think in the depths of their subconscious.
The Protestant god is a merciless psychopath, torturing people mercilessly for crimes they are completely arbitrary, and NO, even in Protestantism/Catholicism you have NO CHOICE in whether or not you are tortured by a psychopathic god.
The Masked One read a FUCKING book why don't you go to a fucking sermon on the topic Don't start acting like you know what free will and moral accountability even is to people of reformed faith
Simple! Their salvation rests in their misinterpretation of Gods choice in eternity past, so Christ is then reduced to a mere token corollary for accomplishing it later-on in time (he gets the both the credit for the good, and more diabolically, the blame for all the evil). A question you may also want to ask: Why would God endlessly plead with ALL men throughout scripture to turn and accept His provision if already it was fait accompli? Use a few brain cells Calvinists! Are you presenting God as schizophrenic?
Good information. My name is Calvin and I've always wanted to know about Calvinism. I can see how it could be effective, and hated. The total power of God has to take a back seat to the ego of man in many circles. Once it is understood that God operates on levels beyond our comprehension, it is easy to see how our limited thinking produces the emotional "not fair" feelings.
Calvin Rodrigues, since you have some knowledge on Calvinism, is the teaching of Calvin on double-predestination biblical. Does God predestinated some to eternal life and other to be destroyed. Thanks
Calvinism is a self-defeating, incoherent, slippery doctrine that has privily made its way into the church. Its proponents are men of renown (at least in Christendom) who are revered as being champions and heralds of truth when, in reality, they are nothing more than closet devil worshipers. They are peddling a poisonous doctrine that is almost as subtle as the devil himself, and they take pride in their administration of this poison to the sheep. I am astonished at how almost every well-known and respected “Pastor,” especially on social media, is a Calvinist. You wouldn’t know this by taking a cursory look at their sermons\talks, because a lot of times they use carefully crafted rhetoric to disguise their position. In fact, it almost seems as though these men intentionally hide their Calvinistic inclinations until after they’ve lured you in with bits of the truth, and then they beguile you with their obtuse wordsmithing. Even so, it doesn’t take a trained eye to easily spot where their Calvinistic doctrine bleeds through to their messages.
@@peralopenaify I am a non-Calvinist and I too believed Calvinism is a heretical doctrine. Why did you directed this message of yours to me? are you presuming me to be a devout Calvinist?
@@mynameisgladiator1933 If so, then all are going to hell, since it isn't a false gospel. (Do you know what the gospel is. Jesus, born of a virgin, died on the cross, rose again on the third day so we might be saved. How does Calvinism not teach this?) Calvinism just says that God saves us, we do not save ourselves. Christ's death makes it possible for us to be reconciled to God...by God.
@@ralphjansen3563 Do you know what the gospel is. Typical arrogant little fool you are. Typical calvinist. Worthless in all your deeds. And you don't know what calvinist teaches. The Perseverance in TULIP means you must work for your salvation or you are lost. Please do not reply. I do not wish to talk to arrogant fools like you.
Doesn't that mean though that God is unjust and evil in Calvinism? After all he punishes people for something they had no choice over, and that he made them do? He kinda is like a police officer that plants false evidence on suspects...
+jerome96114 Actually, calvinists say that God just leaves the sinners to "suffer the consequences of their own acts". So basically, everyone is a sinner, but God choose a select few to be "the elect" while condemning others for: 1 - Being sinners. 2 - Not listening to the gospel, even though they couldn't obey the gospel because only the elect can do it. So yeah, it's still kinda stupid but a little less stupid.
Well the idea of being "just" or "unjust" has to originate from God. We wouldn't be able to judge God as good or evil or just/unjust because in order to properly judge someone there has to be something (like the law) that's above them. Imagine if you judged someone today as a criminal for doing something that was in some other country illegal 400 years ago. To say God is unjust is to elevate your own judgement above the infinite creator.
+NotRegret it just baffles me how God created a MAJORITY of humanity for the sole purpose of torturing them in hell for all of eternity, and that they never had a choice. God would have created them for the sole purpose of torturing them. I just don’t think I can worship a god who would do
Red Pill, maybe similar to what you are saying is something I'll admit I've struggled with in the past is the question of why would God create people who live in the jungles of Africa or the Amazon that have only heard a passing whisper of the gospel at best or those apparent millions and millions who have never heard the gospel at all? I know I can't be the only one this a tough question for.
Do modern Presbyterians believe all of Calvin's most important doctrines as you have described them? Or have these sorts of Christians and other intellectual and spiritual heirs to Calvin softened and liberalized Calvinism's harshest parts?
Calvin didn't "start from scratch". He was Augustinian to the core -- same as the RCC. He even had a penchant for killing heretics. Calvin was a true son of the Harlot, more so than *any* of the other Reformers.
Wow! That was the poorest presentation of Calvinism i have ever heard. Before God chooses anyone they are not free either. We are all tainted by our sinful nature. That sinful nature would Never turn to God. Our Wills are slanted against God. Without God intervening no one would turn to Him. Those that turn to God do so only after God has made it possible for them to do so . After God does a work in us, then, for the first time, we are free to choose Him, and do so freely. In that way it can be said that we chose God and that He chose us. Of course He chose us first and then we choose Him after our sinful nature is bypassed enough for us to then come to our senses. Is is fair that God should choose some and not others? It is not fair but not in the way you may think. Fairness would dictate that ALL be lost and none saved. That would be fair and just! But God out of His mercy saves some, which is His prerogative and right! Who can argue with God? Mr. Richey, I disagree with your characterization of Calvinism. It would have been intellectually honest to present Calvin respectfully and honestly, then you could have given the reasons for your disagreement. But your presentation was not true Calvinism. And it shows that you do not really understand Calvinism. I am ok with someone disagree with Calvinism, but you built up a straw man and then took it down. Lord knows there is enough to argue about when dealing with Calvinism without resorting to what you did. Still all the best to you and God Bless.
The more I listen to and deeply think about Calvin's reformist theology, the more repulsed I feel. These reformists think they have God's favour and blessing regardless of how they behave. Let me also add that they generally make the worst examples of Christ followers. Why care about and love others if you are not sure 'they are elected?' My answer is continually follow Christ's commandments and develop a close relationship with God. Let the fruit of the Spirit work in your life and be guided by the fullness of the Holy Spirit.
John 6:63: "63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." John 1:12-13: "12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." It's the will of God what make us saved see Ephesians 1,4-12. Amen
Joshua came to save sinners, not saints. Wealthy churchgoers condemn because their father is the devil; and he is the accuser of the brotherhood. The churches preach nothing but lies, trying to put the true Believers under the Law, if that were possible. The GOOD NEWS OF GRACE is irresistible. I, too, had no interest in God; but one day a person preached to me. I called her every curse word in the book; however, one week later God revealed himself to me in my living room. I did not see him; but he spoke to me, I could hear his voice. I got saved on the spot, just him and me. Once a person is saved, there is nothing they can do to screw it up. Contrary to what false christian RELIGIONS preach, our salvation is not based on behavior or works. Christians teach that whether we are saved or not depends on our day to day behavior. That is a lie from the devil. Not surprising, they are never sure about their salvation. The Bible states "Nothing can separate us from the love of God." Christian people, being followers of the devil, get really upset when you say things like that. The truth is that anyone who has not had a personal experience with God has not been chosen. Such people are always searching for proof of their salvation; but they never find it. The Bible says "they were weighed in the balance, and found wanting."
Excellent video! I completely agree with this UA-camr… Great information with the comedic flare… I subscribed to this channel today it I will share it with my Christian friends.
I have been a part of a missionary organization that started as none denominational but is changing to be more Calvinist. Even Moody Bible Institute claims to be mostly Calvinist. It's so sad to me that this belief is taking over American missions.
Dahlia the reader it was actually not really in-depth he didn’t really explain the truth of each system of the theology but rather made them sound bad and demonized them
Tom. Will you distinguish between predestination and dual predestination. All christian denominations accept that god is omniscient omnipotent and omnipresent but most teach that although god knows how one chooses he does not force that choice. Calvin never recognized god wanted us to love him. By the way Luther also had a little law experience.
Dang, alot of people in the comment section want to have their cake and eat it to. They want a Sovereign God and free will, it is one or the other people, at least logically.
+YuGiOhDuelChannel Lucifer was a holy angel the anointed cherub that covers.He was created perfect .But he sinned.Because pride took his heart at the moment he exalted his will.
Ty for this. ❣️ #PreciousPuritans being a Calvinist or an Armenian are both non-essentials of what it means to be a Christian. Historically Christianity has had few core beliefs and excessive non core beliefs. We've made it harder than it ever was and have fought pushed people away from JESUS and divided over these non essentials for far too long. See the Scholar Dr. Leighton Flowers / #RuslanKD
As a Calvinist I thoroughly enjoyed the video. But I wouldn’t say it’s entirely accurate to say he wanted to completely start from scratch, he still kept many of the traditions of the Catholic church and believed they were important except for things like the pope of course, just that they were not essential to the Christian faith.
When my driver screaming my name and I started coming out of being knocked out, he told me I needed to get out of the vehicle as the insurgents were shooting at us. I told him no, let me die, it hurts too much. He grabbed me, pulled me off of our truck and guided me to a Stryker as we ran(was still blind at the time. The man saved life in Iraq in 2004. Did he iristably save my wife or what?
I always wondered why all the popular theological debaters champion Christianity were Calvinists. I guess that just confirmed what I already knew, they are insane.
Astounding ignorance. Baptism is a sign of a covenantal relationship. It saves no one nor does it wash any soul clean. ("This is not as a washing of filth from the flesh") Only faith in Christ saves and that comes by hearing and agreeing that it is true. Now go back to your Jack Chick booklets and leave the serious stuff to people who can actually read a bible in context.
Sooo...there is nothing you can do to "loose salvation" because if you are "elected"? Then why the removal of icons, dressing with simple attires, and such. Isn't all of that "doing something"? Clarify that for me, because it looks contradictory.
He explained what Calvinist believe but not Why, using Biblical Scripture. "The five Points of Calvinism" is the best small book I've read that really explains our relationship to God.
You heard about 4 points Calvinist ???? Some people lost the 'L', because of John 3:16 basically, then if you lose more or all 5 points...you are becoming arminian...like Dr Michael Brown...if you go further you will becoming Catholic......study the Scripture my friend, remember Calvinism built by man, John Calvin, search for the Church built by Christ. Gbu
Jean Calvin was bit of a hypocrite. He loved bawdy talk and wine and under him executions in Geneva soared. The idea of double predestination is also mind boggling that only a few ( which is pre determined ) select can be saved. Surely that is against Christs teaching that all can be saved.
Calvinism: There is no good news in Calvinism you're either born to go to hell or born to go to Heaven, you have no choice in the matter. That makes it a false unhappy doctrine.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! The test is tomorrow, I'm freaking out, and this was one of the things I just could not remember. Also, your videos are probably going to be one of the main things that helps me do well on the test, so thank you for all the hard work you do to help us learn all of this!!!
Tom Ritchey must have Scottish background possibly Calvinist. Presbyterian Scotland loved Education and hammering the Children with a leather strap when I grew up in Scotland. Even had a sadist teacher called Ritchie!
I wholeheartedly believe in predestination. Calvinist do believe in free will however it’s just defined by your nature which I think alot of people don’t understand. God is the creator and destroyer of everything so yes predestination fits into that category.
We are a lot of people. We have the choice to reject God like the Angels did. God is a God of Love and Saintity he would not opress his creation, nor can he force anyone to love him, because otherwise it would not be real love.
It’s absurd and utterly unhelpful to start the discussion without a biblical theological framework. In other words, you start the discussion by presenting the “God decides who goes to hell” proposition right at the start instead of giving us the biblical comfext, which is this: Adam rebelled against God in the garden, and instead of immediately executing judgment against Adam, God showed Adam mercy by allowing him and his line to continue on. Nothing makes sense without that context.
I don't understand why they believe that God created so many people to be sinful without the ability to repent. Doesn't that go against all the parts of the Bible where people are called to repent?
Why you should care about Calvinism. It’s doctrines are not Biblical 1)Calvinism = Men are unable to choose God *** Christianity = “Choose you this day whom ye will serve” Joshua 24:15 2) Calvinism = Salvation by lottery *** Christianity = For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26 3) Calvinism = Christ died for the elect *** Christianity = “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.” John 1:29 4) Calvinism = You are a puppet with no free will *** Christianity = “ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.” Acts 7:51 5) Calvinism = Once Saved, Always Saved *** Christianity = “that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith” 1 Timothy 4:1 Of course, Calvinists have excuses for every one of these points. They will twist Scripture in many ways to justify their unBiblical theology. Calvinism has crept into mainstream Christianity in many ways, most notably in point number 5, taking away any responsibility from the Christian to keep the faith which is the only condition in the promise of Salvation. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 But why should anyone care? “For I am the LORD, I change not;” Malachi 3:6 Changing the nature of God in such a fundamental way means you are no longer worshiping the God of the Bible. This fact has eternal consequences. Do not be deceived by those who post the likes of Pink, Sproul, and others. Study the Bible, Look to Christ, not to Calvin.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm very new to all of this. How did Calvin reconcile the absolute sovereignty of God and humans lacking free will with his endorsement of democratic forms of government? They seem pretty antithetical to each other.
Mankind is broken...physically mentally and spiritually...this is why we need salvation...fixed...repaired...restored. Only God can do this. Don't matter how broken. We are all broken to what degree only God knows. If God gives salvation to all mankind it sounds like He wants us saved (salvation) more than we do. And leaves not one will be lost!
Gets angry at me for not being a Calvinist, as if I had a choice.
LOL but at least some part of Calvinism is accepted by most Protestant gooups
Calvinism = false gospel (works added) = eternity in hell
Haha! Perfect.
Not angry, just frustrated that you obviously don't know the definitions of the words you use (eg. "choice"), and thus you demonstrate that when you use them you don't know what you're talking about.
@Ephesians 2:8-9 you speak truth brother, bulletproof comment!
I didn't know that Matt Damon was an amateur historian!
RadarAshwood I was thinking the same! Mr. Richey looks a lot like Matt Damon... In a good way!
The resemblance never occurred to me but now Matt Damon is all I see!
RadarAshwood discount Matt Damon
solidsnake58 x ex
RadarAshwood I think he's a professional.
How is it that myself, raised by two atheist parents and being an alcoholic, living on the streets for years started to pray one morning and was literally struck sober. A peace that "is" beyond all understanding fell upon me that literally felt like...I can't explain it, and remained for 3 day's, all i could do was sit, and be still, i was bathed in it, and never had the compulsion to drink again...pure grace, i don't care what anyone say's...i know what i know through direct experience, and that "is" truth
Unconditional election. Amen.
I had the same thing happen to me. Except the presence of God stayed with me for 3 months. I was an atheist too. I had nothing to do with my belief in God and my faith in Jesus. God saved me, I contributed nothing.
I believe in predestination born of God predestined and Born of satan don't belong to God. That's my understanding.
@@wantlearning Maybe say born of Adam? and Satan's influence reigns in the reprobate sons of Adam, for their destruction. For those in Christ, his influence is limited and works for their good.
But it’s not Calvinism.
I showed this one to my students today. They cracked up about the kid who went crazy and crashed into a telephone pole. This is one of my favorites of yours!
Mr beast give me money
Bro it’s really him
mr beast
Don't sell drugs to children, was just about to make this mistake. Thanks so much Tom Richey!
yeah same. almost accidantally turend a kid to crack addict
You know a history lesson is gonna be good when at the beginning you have to say "never sell drugs to children"
Giorno approves
Poptarts 995, So does it mean it's okay to sell drugs to adults?
52RGD Yes it is always okay to sell drugs to adults
@@poptarts9956, But why is it prohibited in many countries?
it is a psycholigal trick ... I once read an article that you are more likely to agree to his content when you first agreed to him to an other topic. So of course you agree that you shouldn´t sell drugs to kids, and know your mind is more likely to agree to his content on calvinism, which itself is highly controversial and proven not to be biblical.
I'm from Brazil and I'm not here for learning Calvinism but for learning English. :) (I'm Calvinist here in my city in Rio de Janeiro state).
I'm in Brazil too trying to learn Portuguese, so I had the idea to translate The New testament from English to Portuguese
Studying for my AP Euro test right now, and my mom walked in and looked at what i was watching and whispered: "Calvinists are nutty."
Hello Samantha, how are you doing today??
Lmfao ..... U must have a scotch Irish mother..... They have that sarcasm .. ironic tho lol
Calvin did not do away with free will. He holds that humans are free to do as they choose while God is still sovereign over all. It's seemingly contradictory, but Scripture affirms both, and so does Calvin. A simple reading of his section on Providence in his Institutes will clear this up for you. He does NOT eliminate a human's ability to make choices.
Razvan Stoian only the actions completely don't MATTER! A damned human being, created by God that way, who lives a good and holy life is damned. And an elect just WON'T mess up because God programmed him to be good. That is a farce of a doctrine.
You're right it is, that is why Calvinists do not believe that. Everyone is a sinner without exception. And the only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ, it has nothing to do with personal works.
+Jonathan Kotyk And, that is a sad and hopeless way to preach "salvation." Why would Jesus offer, "The words of eternal life" to those he CREATED to be DAMNED! I am passionate about this because it is offensive to me. Every human is called to Christ, period. An "elect" is a human devise to separate followers from their Brothers and Sisters in Christ. The "Good News" can save everyone; why is that debatable?
That Guy The sacrifice Jesus made is capable of saving everyone, but it will ONLY save those who are called to repentance. No one comes to Jesus unless it is the will of the Father. The scripture is clear, God chooses some and not others, why this is is unknown and it is a hard thing for some, to acknowledge that God is sovereign over all creation, but His word says we are all sinners and that no one searches for God, not one. S He must come find us.
Faith is a gift from God, it does not come from us.
Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[b] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory
Ephesians 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
"The scripture is clear, God chooses some and not others" that is ABSURD. That doctrine violates the spirit and the intent of the Gospels. We do not worship AN EVIL AND CAPRICIOUS GOD! I am simply disgusted, sorry.
I love your examples. I have been around a lot of people who try to connect with young people, but they are just so awkward and sheltered, that they just came off as extremely cheesy. Like it would physically hurt listening to them try to connect, and you would find yourself messageing your temples, trying to make the migraine stop. You have more humor in you message, and I think that is where the connection is made. Good job man.
I'm studying for my CSET. These videos are extremely helpful. I wish more history teachers posted videos about history. thanks for taking the time to post!
I found this quote, had to reshare it. "I would believe in the doctrine of election, but God did not predestine me to believe in predestination."
+Pierre LaFontaine What a stupid quote, unless it is from God Himself. How the in world could anyone know what God has predestined or not predestined.
+YuGiOhDuelChannel Reform doctrine is from the devil. Burn the institutes of the Christian religion and follow the Lord Jesus Christ .
frank dunleavy Hmm I do not think you worded your statement correctly, because if a person does something like "eat dinner" even if they were predestined, they are still, in fact, eating dinner, does not matter if they are doing it autonomously or predestined, they are still performing that act either. It is not that they "wouldn't" be doing it.
frank dunleavy You point out exactly why the original quote is stupid, because it misses a key word in it's phrasing "presently", no duh "presently" you are not believing, that is as enlightening as stating the sky is blue.
frank dunleavy Oh and also, ALL actions are predetermined, regardless if they are made by man or God, just God simply "existing" means that every action is going to come about at exactly the moment they come about "without possibility of deviation" because God sees all actions, past, present and future, all at once. Both views are fatalistic, only difference is once view is a man centered fate, and the other is a God centered fate.
God: "All your souls are belong to me."
Thank you God for using Giga to pass this message onto me. I, hereby, accept it and embrace it. Let his will be done.
@@ivanberdichevsky5679 Creepy...
Indeed
This is a quick video describing confusion with calvinism and a big issue today
ua-cam.com/video/2D271ofrGao/v-deo.html
“Nothing personal.....” “just business”.... I know God’s not a mob boss.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_boss
If you happen to be living in an isolated island where a community lives and is fairly literate, and for the first time and have read the new testament; would you be able to deduce/extract TULIPS and calvinistic theology from it? Or would you be a believer and see Jesus, devoid of any calvinistic ways of seeing theology?
Tom I showed this to my 4th grade class and my kids ran out screaming. I’m demanding a complete apology.
He can't help himself
Reading all the anti-Calvinism comments is funny, I doubt even one of them has read Institutes of the Christian Religion or any of Calvin's writings.
Don't need to read it. My God-given brain tells me the Calvinist god is so evil that it just can't be true. I guess the mere fact that I am disgusted by Calvinism means I'm not of the elect, right?
Do you believe God is omni-prescient?
In other words, does God know all things beforehand?
Or, do you believe that God knows only _some_ things beforehand?
Or, do you believe that God is ignorant of all things, or any thing, beforehand?
I'm not married to either and think that there are good reasons to believe both views.
Junto I How can you condemn Calvinism if you don't even know what it is or what it teaches?
"...good reasons to believe _both_ views..."?
But aren't 'both views' contradictory to one another?
How can you hold to both views when they contradict?
Are you saying that it's okay to believe in contradictions?
Just wondering.
I loved the video!!! Very good energy, funny and I loved that you explained everything that was needed to get a better understanding of the next topic.....Great Job!
There are a lot of things that I think are biased in this introduction. What sources are you using?
According to Calvinism, was the crowd who shouted 'Hosanna' the Elect? Why or why not? [ Mt 21:9, 15; Mk 11:9-10 and Jhn 12:13}. Obviously, I have my own position but I am curious to know what the Calvinist has to say.
You are an excellent teacher and did a fantastic job of summarizing Calvinism. I was once a staunch Calvinist, although rejected Limited Atonement. I still reject it. Also, I am not identifying myself as a Calvinist anymore. I think the subject is so deep that I just consider myself a bible student who tries to understand the subject.
Thank you! I'm glad you appreciate what I was trying to do here - just teach without endorsing or condemning Calvinist doctrine. Nearly every video on UA-cam about Calvinism is persuasive rather than informative. Having been on both sides, you can appreciate this more than most.
Your god made all those in hell go there out of His joy to damn them.Calvinism god who judged those he himself made sin and he himself forced to sin.He Himself refuse to save . . No point in even having a bible or witnessing to anyone, because all those saved were already saved before they were born . No point in anyone pointing out false teaching because no one cannot be unelected . Illogical Calvinism
B Hog: Since you rejected Calvinism, how do you deal with Romans 9:15, 21; John 6:37-40 and John 10:27-29? I've watched a lot of debates and have yet to see an Arminian refute these passages clearly or consistently.
Daric:
Why does Jesus make the nonelect, in your theology?
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Again, as with your other question, I don't ask God why He created some for salvation and some for destruction. As a side note, your logically fallacious appeals to emotion to try to discredit the clear teachings of scripture are futile.
The scriptures are clear that God is the potter and we are the clay, and some are made for "honorable use" and some for "common use" (Romans 9:20-22). God is the one who decides who is to be saved and who is to be damned.
In the end, we will all be judged by our works (Revelation 20:11-14). If we do not have the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ imputed to us, we will be cast to hell. If we have faith in Him, His righteousness is imputed to us, His righteous deeds become our righteous deeds, and our sins become His sins, and we attain heaven. That's it.
I don't ask God why some go to hell and some don't. He is in charge. We are like grasshoppers compared to the awesome might and glory of God (Isaiah 40:22).
Fun AND educational. You should be a.. Oh, nevermind.
Sorry you're not making heaven. The reason being overly clever in a social media way. Social media was not created by GOD. Therefore playing clickbait and looking for likes in anti calvinism. I am law.
@@calvincrane imagine being so sore about someone making a joke that you sentence them to hell
No one here criticizing Calvin really understands Reformed theology. They criticize what they think Calvinism is without really understanding it and it's basis in the bible. You'll notice that people who typically abhor Calvinism usually (not always) refrain from using scripture to bolster their arguments, but instead use appeals to emotion and straw-man arguments (logical fallacies). They start with man and work their way up to God, instead of reading the scriptures and starting with God and how He deals with mankind and our rebellious nature.
All mankind are sinners (Romans 3:9-12, 3:23) and cannot please God (Romans 8:7-8). Those who have not been saved are in sin and are sinful by nature; in fact, they love sin so much that they are *completely dead in sin* (Ephesians 2:1). It is completely *fair* and *just* for God to destroy all of us for our own sins (Rom. 2:6-9).
However, those who are saved no longer live according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit (Romans 8:4). Only God can raise people from spiritual death to spiritual life through Jesus Christ (Romans 5:18). Remember, *we cannot please God* until God raises us to spiritual life (Romans 8:7-8). It is God who chooses to bring to life, not us. How can we, puny humans, complain against the Lord of the Universe, who He chooses to save? (Rom. 9:15, 21). No man can come unto Christ except the Father draws us, and it is they who the Father chooses who will believe in Christ and will be lifted up at the last day (John 6:37-40).
Read John 6:37-39, 10:27-29, Romans (especially chapters 3 - 9), Galatians, and Ephesians. There's Calvinist theology all throughout these books.
It's only the natural man who says "but the Calvinist God is evil!" without actually reading these passages and believing them. Until you believe that man is naturally **dead in sin** because of the fall and *only God* can bring them to life, you won't understand Calvinism and you'll continue to make straw mans and use manmade philosophies to support your own morality as opposed to God's.
*Nowhere* does it say in the Bible that man's free will is *more powerful than God's*. That's the whole point of Romans chapters 8-9.
God bless and good luck to everyone. Hope these passages help.
Good luck with what? Being 'chosen' for the Salvation Lottery?
Your rebellious nature! You want to face God and tell him you are rebellious?
If the potter made the clay rebellious, what else can the clay be? We are what we are.
The clay can be a vase. A bowl, picture for water or a pot. Did God give hands to rebell against him? The clay is what the potter makes. God has not made that rebellious clay. Rebels are who become rebellious. So was that the purpose for which God made man? Does a father make a son for his son to rebell? Jesus Xhrist may have taught rebellion '(Mather 10 he came not to bring peace but a sword. To turn son against father and daughter against mother)' but he was nailed to a cross.
The clay may be fired.
Then fire away, if it be your god's will.
Fun fact: when he said 'let there be Light' it was an act of invitation. Time is the tool whereby space is utilized, and Light moves through space in time. Light is in the atmosphere. Light made us a promise. Light will make good on it.
God can and will do all that pleases Him. For his glory and for our joy.
I can't believe I only found your videos this late in the school year!! thank you for uploading them! they're very informative and I love the way you explain everything. :)
katelyn ramirez , by your expression I guess you must be a Calvinist. Do me a favour to comment according to your calvinism theory for the following verses of the bible;
(Rom 4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Before you start I want to state some of the calvinist's principle that is only the elect can be saved as Christ only died for their sins (limited atonement). Now on rom4:5b ".....that justified the ungodly.....". by applying calvinism theory the ungodly must be the elect as only the elect can be saved then what about the non-elect? the non-elect must be classified as the godly because there are only two classes of believers. It is explicitly clear that your doctrine of calvinism is flawed by the above comparison.
Another verse for your comments; . (Luk 19:10) For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Luk19:10b; " come to seek and to save which was lost" according to your theory on salvation only the elect can be saved. Thus the lost must be only the elect. So the non-elect is not lost. How ludicrous it sounds, isn't it?
Appreciate your comments please.thank you.
katelyn ramirez, don't be deceived by the teaching of calvin as it is not biblical. for example , on pedestination calvinism says "God predestinated some to be saved and other to be destroyed".
Please refer to these only 4 verses in the whole bible about God's predestination and to verify Calvin's doctrine on predestinaton;
(Eph 1:5) Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
(Eph 1:11) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
(Rom 8:29) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
(Rom 8:30) Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Please read the above the only 4 verses on God's predestination found in the bible and compare it with the teaching of Calvinism on predestination. Does any of the verses says "God predestined some to be saved and other to be destroyed"? .
You still don't believe me and here are the facts: Calvin most definitely did believe in double predestination. This is what he wrote and taught:
"The predestination by which God adopts some to the hope of life, and adjudges others to eternal death, no man who would be thought pious ventures simply to deny….By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death". (This is a copy from Calvin Institutes of the Christian Religion Chapter 3.21.5).
Do read for yourself what Calvin really taught and you decides for yourself and don't simply listened to their sweet talks as I have proved it to you biblically. Your comments please. Thanks
@@93556108 Hence the Bourgeoisie were pre destined to be able to rip of the masses who are not favoured by big G! Good letter!
@@mikefay5698 I don't believe in God predestinates individuals in relation to soteriology.
@@93556108 Soteriology eh. Looked it up means Salvation. "Apple Pie in the sky that's what Jesus promises when you die". With the pious cocking there Nuclear bombs both Biden and Putin for WW3 with the callapse of Holy Capitalism and human rights. Mind you that is true Global warming the Capies love to end their Gobbledegook speeches with! Off we all go to the "Big rock candy mountain"!
Love this guy! Lively, funny, energetic, informative and educational! Two thumbs up!
My favorite part. "STEVEN RUNS INTO A TELEPHONE POLE AND BAM! HE'S DEAD!!!" Just the conclusion of that story made me laugh a lot. Awesome videos, thank you. I've been watching a lot of them and it makes things more clearer to understand because I cannot retain info fast in my a.p euro class like my other classmates. Thank you so much :)
***** Glad I can help and entertain you at the same time! Steven and I had a lot of fun making this video.
Thanks. This is the clearest, simplest explanation I have heard of Calvanism.
Hey Tom. Great videos. Is it fair to say that with irresistible grace, one will turn back from their sin and serve God completely? Or does irresistible grace mean that one can still remain in sin and be saved? I often wonder how one could feel this type of awesome grace and remain a thief or a robber.
I really enjoyed this video, I was able to further grasp the concept of Calvinism based on your specific examples and modern examples. The idea of reformed theology as well as systematic theology was completely new to me and this video helped me understand what it entailed and how it played into Calvin's views.
You have to be careful. He doesn't have a clear understanding of the teaching and teaching it
Dude...you've been "nerding out" since the day you were born.
Ok
So according to the Calvinists I can blame god for everything that happens to me including the things that are my fault.
I am a calvinist and my senior pastor taught me that there are several things that cause life to happen: Your enviroment, The laws of nature, Your Free Will, ect. And, God is not the main cause. So dont blame God for everything.
Calvinism is anything but reformed.
It does the work of iniquity.
An expanding and (roughly) chronological list of Tom Richey videos (with a few others mixed in)
Unit 0
ua-cam.com/video/5PMdpW4ATvI/v-deo.html, The Franks
ua-cam.com/video/0b76jyFUcU8/v-deo.html, feudalism
ua-cam.com/video/dBwqeO6LAu4/v-deo.html, chivalry
Unit 1: Renaissance and Exploration
ua-cam.com/video/DcCojSiNAqc/v-deo.html, Renaissance and exploration (AP European History: Unit 1)
ua-cam.com/video/tIcmPM0zwQQ/v-deo.html, Italian renaissance
ua-cam.com/video/nWNZh913458/v-deo.html, Northern renaissance
ua-cam.com/video/6-kqN_SniXc/v-deo.html, Humanism, Free Will, and the All Nighter
ua-cam.com/video/pdbuYbxMy8A/v-deo.html, Petrach (not a Richey video)
ua-cam.com/video/WSsRxMRUqvI/v-deo.html, Headbanger Humanism (August Burns Red and the Renaissance)
ua-cam.com/video/-EDxoHp4fJ0/v-deo.html, Renaissance Art
ua-cam.com/video/nlLQOUnOrZU/v-deo.html, Machiavelli
ua-cam.com/video/TAGEus5FcrU/v-deo.html, The Book of the Courtier (Castiglione's Guide for the Renaissance Man)
ua-cam.com/video/1d1xGj0cx9A/v-deo.html, The Courtly Lady of the Renaissance (Book of the Courtier: Part 2)
ua-cam.com/video/Dh-hLauV_nM/v-deo.html, The Sack of Rome in 1527 (not a Richey video)
ua-cam.com/video/J1kZNKmtl4k/v-deo.html, Mannerism (Late Renaissance Art)
Unit 2: Age of Reformation
ua-cam.com/video/Z4RNYQscm0w/v-deo.html, Causes of the Reformation
ua-cam.com/video/5UQTSNL_688/v-deo.html, What is Purgatory? (Catholic Doctrines)
ua-cam.com/video/a2irHpvLr7I/v-deo.html, Martin Luther's Reformation (live lecture)
ua-cam.com/video/bY9lSNfOWZY/v-deo.html, Martin Luther's Doctrines (Reformation Theology)
ua-cam.com/video/KZARuVXiH8k/v-deo.html, Calvinism (Introduction to John Calvin's Reformed Theology)
apstudents.collegeboard.org/courses/ap-european-history, AP European History units
Absolutely loved the Borg impression!!!!!
Thank you for explaining Calvinism in an easily digestible manner. Do you have any videos on absolutism in early modern Europe?
+Hassan E. Yeah like A TON of 'em! Just search for Absolutism European History or something and you can't miss them.
CHAPTER IX.
Of Free Will.
I. God hath endued the will of man with that natural liberty, that is neither forced, nor by any absolute necessity of nature determined to good or evil.
II. Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom and power to will and to do that which is good and well-pleasing to God; but yet mutably, so that he might fall from it.
III. Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation; so as a natural man, being altogether averse from that good, and dead in sin, is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereunto.
IV. When God converts a sinner and translates him into the state of grace, he freeth him from his natural bondage under sin, and, by his grace alone, enables him freely to will and to do that which is spiritually good; yet so as that, by reason of his remaining corruption, he doth not perfectly, nor only, will that which is good, but doth also will that which is evil.
V. The will of man is made perfectly and immutable free to good alone, in the state of glory only.
THE WESTMINSTER
CONFESSION OF FAITH
(1646)
David, nothing that you said makes any sense. People love to throw around straw-man arguments, calling people Jesuits, and using non-sequiturs to "prove" their arguments. Roman Catholicism has nothing to do with Calvinism; Roman Catholics are works salvation, whereas Calvinists believe only God can save us from death and sin (see my post earlier). Hoping and praying you come to a knowledge of the truth.
Daric:
How do you feel about the eternal suffering of the nonelect?
Well, since you are asking a loaded question, all I have to say is that I do not desire anyone to suffer eternal hellfire. But Jesus declared that those who do not believe Him would suffer such torment. What I "feel" about the issue is inconsequential. It's like asking "how does it make you feel that 2+2=4?" Feelings have nothing to do with it. Truth is truth.
The gospel makes no difference about how I "feel". God declares truth and we must accept it. We must accept God's decree and trust in Him. According to our incredibly limited human minds, some things may seem atrocious. But I trust in the completely holy, loving, good God that He knows what He is doing with His creation. It isn't up to us, as His creations, to shake our fist at God and demand He do anything (Romans 9:20-21). He is the potter and we are the clay; He can do whatever He would like with His creation as He sees fit (Ephesians 1).
Daric:
No, what you *feel* about the issue shows me your ethics, how you follow Jesus's 2nd great commandment.
Jesus told you to love and forgive even your enemies, and it turns out that you do -- you "do not desire anyone to suffer eternal hellfire."
Given that, you (and I) are *far more loving than Jesus,* Who not merely *hates* them *unforgivingly* enough to punish them in hell forever, but *hated* them so much even before they existed that He *made* them for that horrible purpose.
Thus, you and I are more loving and forgiving and thus "Christlike" than Christ, which is passing strange!
Emilio:
How do you feel about the eternal suffering of the nonelect?
Thanks so much I study philosophy and religion and never knew that aspect about Free Will brilliant synopsis about capturing the iconoclasm of this highly unique group .
Do you teach your class with the same rhetoric? At what kind of institution do you teach?
I'm an atheist, but in my theological research, I find Calvinism to be the most logically consistent and sensible to reconcile the omniscience of God.
I will never lay the blame for men rejecting God on God himself. Name one that God does not desire to see in his kingdom. You cannot, because he desires us all. We do in fact have a responsibility toward God. And a man with a responsibility is a man who is able to respond. If we are able to respond to the Gospel, then we are accountable.
Correct- he is God! And because he is God I believe He is big enough to allow us our free will to respond to the calling or o reject Him - I can not believe that He bothered to create a world full of pre-programmed robots. Why would He allow Jesus to suffer the cross if He had already decided who would come and who would not? Why is the bible full of warnings against being deceived - if it isn't a possibility because we are predestined?
I agree that All things work together wor together for the good of His people- where I have a problem with this line of teaching is in the belief that He has hand picked who shall be saved- I believe the passage referring to predestination refers to the fact that He is God and therefore He knows who will and will not accept His open invitation to ALL mankind rather than the idea that He has before hand chosen some to be saved and some to be damned. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.
So you are a believer in predestination in the sense that there are people here on earth that are just damned due to no fault of their own. That is to say, that these people can not be saved by hearing the call, because God has excluded them? Now, these people are also not included when in John 3:16 For God so loved the WORLD that he gave His only begotten Son, that WHOsoever believes on Him shall have everlasting life.... You do not believe that scripture to mean that any and all people have the open invitation to believe on God and His gift of salvation through Jesus? This is what I do not understand. I believe God knows all, sees all, is above all, is the only God - and He is all wise etc. Yet, He is loving, longsuffering, kind, forgiving and He meant what He said- He will forgive anyone that believes and repents. The idea that he is God and therefore already knows who those people that will "choose" to accept or deny Him - makes sense to me. That they can NOT choose and are preprogrammed to either serve Him or deny Him is a concept I can not accept. This is where I can not agree with this line of thinking. But I know others that do, and I call them my brother and sisters. However I just do not agree with this doctrine. It doesn't mean I question anyones love for God or relationship with Him.
yes you see- you just said they are condemned already- and yet it did not mean the whole world. If it didnt include them- then they had no chance or choice to repent- that is what you are saying? but you don't want to be pinned down to saying it. And on this I vehemently disagree. Yes man is nasty, ugly, sin filled, prideful etc etc and trust me I can grasp it. I have been saved for 38 yrs and I have at least a very general understanding of the gospel and its message but where you and I differ is that I believe that He sent His son to extend His love and forgiveness to ANY and all that will come. And while I understand that he calls us and draws us and that it is not by works, nor by own deeds- but it is the gift of God- I believe it is a gift He offers to ALL mankind.
As I said - You believe that the unbelievers are predestined to not believe- I believe it is a choice they make- to shun Him and His gift of Salvation- and that those of us that do hear the call and repent are saved by His grace but we chose to follow Him. Yes He chose us as He chose Israel- but just as Israel has many that have rejected Him- so do we have the choice. Choose ye this day Whom you shall serve.
You do better at explaining than my religion text book. I was actually so confused by what the heck Calvinism was.
Love how we didn’t know Steve was there until he just sliiiiiides into frame. 😂
Found this after Michael Pollan mentioned calvinists in his book "The Botany of Desire". Listening to the audio book through the Pub. Lib. Syst.
He's writing about Tulips in Holland (a calvinist nation in 1634-37 when the tulip apparently caused some trouble to their economy.
Holland was not a “Calvinist” nation. Many craftsman in The Netherlands were Protestant. Upon gaining freedom from Spanish control, the Netherlands became a destination for Protestants and Jews throughout Europe.
I haven't laughed studying for a long time
This was an excellent presentation. Subscribed.
+Lance Watson Glad to hear it!
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Lance Watson, since you proclaimed this presentation was excellent then I supposed you must have some knowledge on Calvinism. Thus tell me Calvin's notion of double-predestination, is it biblical? thanks
Lance Watson, this is a heretical doctrine and why are you recommending subscription from others. Calvinism taught this doctrine as stated below and do you think it is biblical?
The facts are: Calvin most definitely did believe in double predestination. This is what he wrote and taught:
"The predestination by which God adopts some to the hope of life, and adjudges others to eternal death, no man who would be thought pious ventures simply to deny….By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death"
(An extract from Institutes of the Christian Religion Chapter 3.21.5)
Please read for yourself and would our loving God will engaged in such an evil act on man made in His own image as suggested by Calvin? I let you be the judge. Thanks.
Calvin didn't do away with free will. He taught that man's will is bound by sin and is a slave of sin, and because of this, they cannot do anything right
Shawn Durham, seems like a devout Calvinist. Please share with me whether Calvin's doctrine of double-predestination, is it according to the predestination as taught in the Bible. Thanks
@@nicolethomps.n I don't find your statement's notion in the bible. Please elaborate further what message you tried to convey or quote to me the bible verses so that I could give you a more accurate comment.
@@nicolethomps.n You falsely assume as taught by vain human philosophy that fallen human creatures are good, when the Bible says the direct opposite.
Prior to God's work of regeneration, all humanity are followers of Satan and continually live by the desires of the flesh.
Ephesians 2
2 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air(Satan), the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body[a] and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.
"when we give our lives to Christ our spirit then becomes one with the Holy Spirit and we have His strength to overcome sin."
So, you expect to be rewarded with salvation because you do good.
How very pelagian!
@@93556108 Your comments appear to have the subtext "Go ahead and try, you simple soul, and I will quickly 'refute' for you what you say". You may as well go ahead and write " 'Please' give me research and documentation so that I could just go ahead and reject everything you'll say like I've already made up my mind to do anyway. " If you are _really_ interested in Calvinist exegesis, then you could do worse than reading a few pages from Calvin or other Calvinist authors. If you haven't done so, then you should do so since you seem ready to debate the point, and it's silly to debate the point without the required learning. If you _have_ already done so, then maybe _you_ could say what it is that you find disagreeable in your research into Calvinist exegesis. So "please share with me", by all means
@@nietzschesghost8529 I am a Christian and the bible is the sole authority for my faith and practice. I am not interested in Calvinists exegesis as I don't agree to Calvin's doctrines (TULIP) which is unbiblical. For example Calvin taught double-predestination and its concepts are no where found in the bible.
This is one of my majors in church history. John calvin. Thanks alot I appreciate your help. God bless you sir.
You can check out what John Calvin believes from his magnum opus Systematic Theology book for free, his audiobook on the Institutes of the Christian Religion Vol 1 can be found on UA-cam for free here: ua-cam.com/video/uYJ_x1DhfN4/v-deo.htmlsi=9QwfKlz93LTvZ_z4
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So why would a God punish you for something you had no control over? Calvinism makes no sense, punishing a person for not worshipping a God they were predestined not to do anyway, the Calvinist God seems like a sick sociopath in my opinion
+Nicky Bennett
I think it was a response to the world, where your life was determined by the family where you was born. If your parents are peasants - you are stuck with it, social mobility is minimal. And if you are not from the nobles - better to get used to the fact that your life is in someone`s hands and you have no control over it.
A Calvinist would respond by saying that God can do whatever he pleases in order to accomplish his purpose or to glorify his name. Yes, it's pretty disgusting. I'm actually very fascinated by Calvinists. Somehow, they can maintain this belief in a truly despicable god and still profess love for him. I always wonder what they really think in the depths of their subconscious.
Your criticism of Calvanism is a criticism of ALL Christianity.
The Protestant god is a merciless psychopath, torturing people mercilessly for crimes they are completely arbitrary, and NO, even in Protestantism/Catholicism you have NO CHOICE in whether or not you are tortured by a psychopathic god.
The Masked One read a FUCKING book why don't you
go to a fucking sermon on the topic
Don't start acting like you know what free will and moral accountability even is to people of reformed faith
Calvin's "logic" fails at the Resurrection. If believers are predestined, then why did Jesus come and suffer?
Simple! Their salvation rests in their misinterpretation of Gods choice in eternity past, so Christ is then reduced to a mere token corollary for accomplishing it later-on in time (he gets the both the credit for the good, and more diabolically, the blame for all the evil).
A question you may also want to ask: Why would God endlessly plead with ALL men throughout scripture to turn and accept His provision if already it was fait accompli? Use a few brain cells Calvinists! Are you presenting God as schizophrenic?
Clearly you do not know the Scriptures or you would know. Hears a hint...propitiation.
@@YerPope Do you really not see the circular reasoning there?
@@kelvyquayo Explain!
@@kwpctek9190 "Are you presenting God as schizophrenic?"
No, you do, as well as presenting a god that is not truly sovereign nor omniscient.
Don't drink the poison - Beyond The Fundamentals just released a 1-hour video *There is NO GOSPEL In Calvinism*
Beyond the fundamentals is an awesome channel! Kevin does a great job destroying Calvinism
Good job...
No judgement of the doctrine, just the facts...
God didn’t choose you because you were a good person. You were a good person because God chose you.
Good information. My name is Calvin and I've always wanted to know about Calvinism.
I can see how it could be effective, and hated. The total power of God has to take a back seat to the ego of man in many circles. Once it is understood that God operates on levels beyond our comprehension, it is easy to see how our limited thinking produces the emotional "not fair" feelings.
Calvin Rodrigues, since you have some knowledge on Calvinism, is the teaching of Calvin on double-predestination biblical. Does God predestinated some to eternal life and other to be destroyed. Thanks
Calvinism is a self-defeating, incoherent, slippery doctrine that has privily made its way into the church. Its proponents are men of renown (at least in Christendom) who are revered as being champions and heralds of truth when, in reality, they are nothing more than closet devil worshipers. They are peddling a poisonous doctrine that is almost as subtle as the devil himself, and they take pride in their administration of this poison to the sheep. I am astonished at how almost every well-known and respected “Pastor,” especially on social media, is a Calvinist. You wouldn’t know this by taking a cursory look at their sermons\talks, because a lot of times they use carefully crafted rhetoric to disguise their position. In fact, it almost seems as though these men intentionally hide their Calvinistic inclinations until after they’ve lured you in with bits of the truth, and then they beguile you with their obtuse wordsmithing. Even so, it doesn’t take a trained eye to easily spot where their Calvinistic doctrine bleeds through to their messages.
@@peralopenaify I am a non-Calvinist and I too believed Calvinism is a heretical doctrine. Why did you directed this message of yours to me? are you presuming me to be a devout Calvinist?
Daniel Lopez, did you get my message? thanks
Not to you,to Calvin Rodríguez
I am a Christian, but I most definitely do not agree with Calvin
Why?
probably because its false
That's good because Calvinism is a false gospel. No one is saved by it.
@@mynameisgladiator1933 If so, then all are going to hell, since it isn't a false gospel. (Do you know what the gospel is. Jesus, born of a virgin, died on the cross, rose again on the third day so we might be saved. How does Calvinism not teach this?) Calvinism just says that God saves us, we do not save ourselves. Christ's death makes it possible for us to be reconciled to God...by God.
@@ralphjansen3563 Do you know what the gospel is. Typical arrogant little fool you are. Typical calvinist. Worthless in all your deeds. And you don't know what calvinist teaches. The Perseverance in TULIP means you must work for your salvation or you are lost.
Please do not reply. I do not wish to talk to arrogant fools like you.
Doesn't that mean though that God is unjust and evil in Calvinism?
After all he punishes people for something they had no choice over, and that he made them do?
He kinda is like a police officer that plants false evidence on suspects...
+jerome96114 Actually, calvinists say that God just leaves the sinners to "suffer the consequences of their own acts". So basically, everyone is a sinner, but God choose a select few to be "the elect" while condemning others for:
1 - Being sinners.
2 - Not listening to the gospel, even though they couldn't obey the gospel because only the elect can do it.
So yeah, it's still kinda stupid but a little less stupid.
Well the idea of being "just" or "unjust" has to originate from God. We wouldn't be able to judge God as good or evil or just/unjust because in order to properly judge someone there has to be something (like the law) that's above them. Imagine if you judged someone today as a criminal for doing something that was in some other country illegal 400 years ago. To say God is unjust is to elevate your own judgement above the infinite creator.
Why did Calvin kill Michael Servatus? I am hurt to hear that. Rev22:15 precludes Calvin from going into heaven.
“Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?” (Roman 9.21)
The funniest part was there's nothing in his cup.
Calvin was the spiritual heir of Caiaphas---consumed by spiritual pride, and hatred of God and man.
He would have pressured Pilate to crucify Jesus!
So Calvinism basically says "the game was rigged": depression, nihilism.
+NotRegret it just baffles me how God created a MAJORITY of humanity for the sole purpose of torturing them in hell for all of eternity, and that they never had a choice. God would have created them for the sole purpose of torturing them. I just don’t think I can worship a god who would do
You forgot despair
Red Pill, maybe similar to what you are saying is something I'll admit I've struggled with in the past is the question of why would God create people who live in the jungles of Africa or the Amazon that have only heard a passing whisper of the gospel at best or those apparent millions and millions who have never heard the gospel at all? I know I can't be the only one this a tough question for.
Ya its idealism. The church has always been trying to twist platos teachings.
This isn't Tom Richey, it's Tom Ripley, as in the Talented Mr Ripley.
Do modern Presbyterians believe all of Calvin's most important doctrines as you have described them? Or have these sorts of Christians and other intellectual and spiritual heirs to Calvin softened and liberalized Calvinism's harshest parts?
Calvin didn't "start from scratch". He was Augustinian to the core -- same as the RCC. He even had a penchant for killing heretics. Calvin was a true son of the Harlot, more so than *any* of the other Reformers.
Wow! That was the poorest presentation of Calvinism i have ever heard. Before God chooses anyone they are not free either. We are all tainted by our sinful nature. That sinful nature would Never turn to God. Our Wills are slanted against God. Without God intervening no one would turn to Him. Those that turn to God do so only after God has made it possible for them to do so . After God does a work in us, then, for the first time, we are free to choose Him, and do so freely. In that way it can be said that we chose God and that He chose us. Of course He chose us first and then we choose Him after our sinful nature is bypassed enough for us to then come to our senses. Is is fair that God should choose some and not others? It is not fair but not in the way you may think. Fairness would dictate that ALL be lost and none saved. That would be fair and just! But God out of His mercy saves some, which is His prerogative and right! Who can argue with God? Mr. Richey, I disagree with your characterization of Calvinism. It would have been intellectually honest to present Calvin respectfully and honestly, then you could have given the reasons for your disagreement. But your presentation was not true Calvinism. And it shows that you do not really understand Calvinism. I am ok with someone disagree with Calvinism, but you built up a straw man and then took it down. Lord knows there is enough to argue about when dealing with Calvinism without resorting to what you did. Still all the best to you and God Bless.
I was thinking thinking the same thing.
having read through this video and watched this comment i don't really see the discrepancy between what he says and what you're saying
A+ (and humorous) :) Well done!
Love your channel. You are excellent at breaking challenging concepts down. Thanks!
exactly the information I was looking for. Super interesting too!
3:55 LOOL I loved that!
The more I listen to and deeply think about Calvin's reformist theology, the more repulsed I feel. These reformists think they have God's favour and blessing regardless of how they behave. Let me also add that they generally make the worst examples of Christ followers. Why care about and love others if you are not sure 'they are elected?' My answer is continually follow Christ's commandments and develop a close relationship with God. Let the fruit of the Spirit work in your life and be guided by the fullness of the Holy Spirit.
Being unsure of the elect is thus in direct contradiction to Christ's message of Love and spreading the Gospel
Not a Calvinist but holy moly you’ve given a horrible misrepresentation of their beliefs.
John 6:63: "63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
John 1:12-13: "12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
It's the will of God what make us saved see Ephesians 1,4-12.
Amen
I agree I was scooped out of heroin addiction by god and I was into Satanism I wasn't even into god but he scooped me out, I had no choice.
Joshua came to save sinners, not saints. Wealthy churchgoers condemn because their father is the devil; and he is the accuser of the brotherhood. The churches preach nothing but lies, trying to put the true Believers under the Law, if that were possible.
The GOOD NEWS OF GRACE is irresistible. I, too, had no interest in God; but one day a person preached to me. I called her every curse word in the book; however, one week later God revealed himself to me in my living room. I did not see him; but he spoke to me, I could hear his voice. I got saved on the spot, just him and me.
Once a person is saved, there is nothing they can do to screw it up. Contrary to what false christian RELIGIONS preach, our salvation is not based on behavior or works. Christians teach that whether we are saved or not depends on our day to day behavior. That is a lie from the devil. Not surprising, they are never sure about their salvation. The Bible states "Nothing can separate us from the love of God." Christian people, being followers of the devil, get really upset when you say things like that.
The truth is that anyone who has not had a personal experience with God has not been chosen. Such people are always searching for proof of their salvation; but they never find it. The Bible says "they were weighed in the balance, and found wanting."
Hmmm, the poor folks that have no choice. Tough luck I guess.
Jason Hart how do you know it wasn’t the devil telling you lies?
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your lecture is good.But throw away that mug before next class.
I have been a part of a missionary organization that started as none denominational but is changing to be more Calvinist.
Even Moody Bible Institute claims to be mostly Calvinist. It's so sad to me that this belief is taking over American missions.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moody_Bible_Institute
Thank you for such an in-depth explanation 😊
Dahlia the reader it was actually not really in-depth he didn’t really explain the truth of each system of the theology but rather made them sound bad and demonized them
Calvinism and Anabaptism are the most interesting types of protestant theology if you ask me!
Tom. Will you distinguish between predestination and dual predestination. All christian denominations accept that god is omniscient omnipotent and omnipresent but most teach that although god knows how one chooses he does not force that choice. Calvin never recognized god wanted us to love him. By the way Luther also had a little law experience.
Good to know!
*Calvinism is pure garbage.*
Dang, alot of people in the comment section want to have their cake and eat it to. They want a Sovereign God and free will, it is one or the other people, at least logically.
+YuGiOhDuelChannel What about Lucifer .....?
Timothy Gill What about him? Is Lucifer like a gotcha question for people who believe God is Sovereign in all things?
+YuGiOhDuelChannel Lucifer was a holy angel the anointed cherub that covers.He was created perfect .But he sinned.Because pride took his heart at the moment he exalted his will.
Timothy Gill I am still not seeing you point? Are you making an argument that God is not Sovereign?
+YuGiOhDuelChannel God created Lucifer perfect. You are not a calvinist are you.?
Ty for this. ❣️ #PreciousPuritans being a Calvinist or an Armenian are both non-essentials of what it means to be a Christian. Historically Christianity has had few core beliefs and excessive non core beliefs. We've made it harder than it ever was and have fought pushed people away from JESUS and divided over these non essentials for far too long. See the Scholar Dr. Leighton Flowers / #RuslanKD
Seen Flowers wilt in debate with James White.
Are you unaware of the 5 articles of Dord and how this touches on salvation?
As a Calvinist I thoroughly enjoyed the video. But I wouldn’t say it’s entirely accurate to say he wanted to completely start from scratch, he still kept many of the traditions of the Catholic church and believed they were important except for things like the pope of course, just that they were not essential to the Christian faith.
When my driver screaming my name and I started coming out of being knocked out, he told me I needed to get out of the vehicle as the insurgents were shooting at us. I told him no, let me die, it hurts too much. He grabbed me, pulled me off of our truck and guided me to a Stryker as we ran(was still blind at the time. The man saved life in Iraq in 2004. Did he iristably save my wife or what?
The Westboro Baptist Church are Calvinists, as is Paul Washer.
absolutely 100% false. Westboro is incredibly arminian. As is most racist churches in the south.
Do not pass go! Do not collect salvation. 😂 (that cracked me up)
I always wondered why all the popular theological debaters champion Christianity were Calvinists.
I guess that just confirmed what I already knew, they are insane.
It certainly attracts a particular personality type.
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It does. If I were a Christian, I think Calvinism has the most biblical sound of the doctrines I studied.
Astounding ignorance. Baptism is a sign of a covenantal relationship. It saves no one nor does it wash any soul clean. ("This is not as a washing of filth from the flesh") Only faith in Christ saves and that comes by hearing and agreeing that it is true.
Now go back to your Jack Chick booklets and leave the serious stuff to people who can actually read a bible in context.
Are you talking to me about Jack Chick? It's hard to tell who you are referencing? I'm not a Christian.
Yet you're so fascinated with Christianity to the point you seek out youtube videos and engage in conversations about something you don't believe in.
Sooo...there is nothing you can do to "loose salvation" because if you are "elected"? Then why the removal of icons, dressing with simple attires, and such. Isn't all of that "doing something"? Clarify that for me, because it looks contradictory.
He explained what Calvinist believe but not Why, using Biblical Scripture. "The five Points of Calvinism" is the best small book I've read that really explains our relationship to God.
You heard about 4 points Calvinist ???? Some people lost the 'L', because of John 3:16 basically, then if you lose more or all 5 points...you are becoming arminian...like Dr Michael Brown...if you go further you will becoming Catholic......study the Scripture my friend, remember Calvinism built by man, John Calvin, search for the Church built by Christ. Gbu
@@anthonytan7134 Sorry but I don't understand what part of my comment you are addressing. What is the point of your comment?
Sorry, but I just want to point out how TULIP doesn't hold water. Gbu
Jean Calvin was bit of a hypocrite. He loved bawdy talk and wine and under him executions in Geneva soared. The idea of double predestination is also mind boggling that only a few ( which is pre determined ) select can be saved. Surely that is against Christs teaching that all can be saved.
Anthony London Except He did not teach that everyone can be saved....
Anthony London, I am not aware that Jean Calvin also teaches Calvinism. Please clarify. thanks.
Calvinism:
There is no good news in Calvinism you're either born to go to hell or born to go to Heaven, you have no choice in the matter. That makes it a false unhappy doctrine.
It is the teachings of God contaminated with the ideas of men. Well one man at least.
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Okay, this really had some great information and was pretty funny. Theology students must have a sense of humor or our heads explode! Thanks!
Tom Ritchey must have Scottish background possibly Calvinist. Presbyterian Scotland loved Education and hammering the Children with a leather strap when I grew up in Scotland. Even had a sadist teacher called Ritchie!
I wholeheartedly believe in predestination. Calvinist do believe in free will however it’s just defined by your nature which I think alot of people don’t understand. God is the creator and destroyer of everything so yes predestination fits into that category.
We are a lot of people. We have the choice to reject God like the Angels did. God is a God of Love and Saintity he would not opress his creation, nor can he force anyone to love him, because otherwise it would not be real love.
Aren't we supposed to read Paul's epistles rather than Calvin??
It’s absurd and utterly unhelpful to start the discussion without a biblical theological framework. In other words, you start the discussion by presenting the “God decides who goes to hell” proposition right at the start instead of giving us the biblical comfext, which is this: Adam rebelled against God in the garden, and instead of immediately executing judgment against Adam, God showed Adam mercy by allowing him and his line to continue on. Nothing makes sense without that context.
I don't understand why they believe that God created so many people to be sinful without the ability to repent. Doesn't that go against all the parts of the Bible where people are called to repent?
Why you should care about Calvinism.
It’s doctrines are not Biblical
1)Calvinism = Men are unable to choose God *** Christianity = “Choose you this day whom ye will serve” Joshua 24:15
2) Calvinism = Salvation by lottery *** Christianity = For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26
3) Calvinism = Christ died for the elect *** Christianity = “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.” John 1:29
4) Calvinism = You are a puppet with no free will *** Christianity = “ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.” Acts 7:51
5) Calvinism = Once Saved, Always Saved *** Christianity = “that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith” 1 Timothy 4:1
Of course, Calvinists have excuses for every one of these points. They will twist Scripture in many ways to justify their unBiblical theology. Calvinism has crept into mainstream Christianity in many ways, most notably in point number 5, taking away any responsibility from the Christian to keep the faith which is the only condition in the promise of Salvation. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16
But why should anyone care? “For I am the LORD, I change not;” Malachi 3:6 Changing the nature of God in such a fundamental way means you are no longer worshiping the God of the Bible. This fact has eternal consequences. Do not be deceived by those who post the likes of Pink, Sproul, and others. Study the Bible, Look to Christ, not to Calvin.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm very new to all of this. How did Calvin reconcile the absolute sovereignty of God and humans lacking free will with his endorsement of democratic forms of government? They seem pretty antithetical to each other.
Mankind is broken...physically mentally and spiritually...this is why we need salvation...fixed...repaired...restored. Only God can do this. Don't matter how broken. We are all broken to what degree only God knows. If God gives salvation to all mankind it sounds like He wants us saved (salvation) more than we do. And leaves not one will be lost!