Question of the Day 💡Do you think the Canon M50 is Dead? Let us know! **** Check out my video comparing the Canon M50 Mark I vs Mark II HERE ➡ ua-cam.com/video/NCcbDidcwJE/v-deo.html
@@LittleMountainLife A better comparison is the newer Canon m50ii which has live-streaming option with clean HDMI out, and can be hooked up as a webcam. Although the Sony ZV-E10 does seem to have a bit better video quality from oversampling, the m50ii still does alright, and the m50ii outperforms the ZV-E10 a bit for stabilization outdoors for run and gun video capture with electronic stabilization turned on. That said, for just an in studio you tube camera the Sony ZV-E10 would have a bit better video image quality. The Canon m50ii in my opinion are still relevant for 2022 and at a good price, and matched up with a Sigma 16mm M mount for wide angle and good lighting is a good option for HD1080 video, (unless you prefer 4K full screen, not everyone is doing 4K on You Tube, but some are though).
I do agree with most of your comments but for me the ability to use the aperture is better than my phone and I’m trying to get a very basic camera that has all the basics. Also the film course that I’m taking has taught me that the m50 can be used for all the plans I have. So even with this video to consider, I’m still going to save for the m50.
*1st time won't agree with you .. i have an iphone, a Canon M50 and a Sony A7S3 .. the Canon M50 produces far better results then an iphone if used with a good lens and maual setting .. don't shoot auto .. see how good it is if you shoot in manual with a canon m50. the iphone sharpness is digital and very artificial looking .. and this is coming from some1 who has made 100 videos on youtube shooting with an iPhone*
If it worked last year, it works now - if you have one already. Don't let yourself become a gear snob and let that get in the way of making your art. Too many people let the technical nuances get in the way. Just do it. I have a stock m50, and my buddy has a Sony A7 with a crazy telescopic lens... I have a cheap ring light that hums when I turn it too bright and a $75 RGB LED diffuse light. He has a full set of Astera Titan LED tubes x8 ($8500). But guess who is actually making content? Not digging at my friend. He's an awesome talented dude and he's working on an album right now that is really impressive, but he could be so much further along if he didn't aim for an impossible standard. It's always better to start and then course correct than to try and plan everything. The field is constantly shifting and changing. Just take a stab at it and don't look back.
@@amj.composer well shit. You've reminded me again. I spent 5 hours last night recording take after take of the bridge of one song. That's crazy. I need to call it good, get it uploaded and move onto something I'm more comfortable with. 👍 Perfectionism is where good content dies. I need it tattooed on my brain.
FYI...No camera is "future proof." The relevant question is how long a particular camera will allow you to do what you want to do before it becomes limiting.
Ironically working around the limits of an old or new camera can be half the fun IMO From an old Polaroid Impluse AF and a Canon Rebel Ti 35mm camera to a Rebel T6 DSLR or the EOS M200 that I just got and plan to get Full-spectrum modified to act as a fun secondary camera, it's not about how "good" the camera is, it's about how much you can enjoy using it, I've seen people take amazing shots with 10mp point and shoot cameras from the thrift store, which is probably not a bad place to start before going all in on a camera, just make sure you know if it's a digital or film camera as film is tricky to get developed these days with fewer and fewer places to go
usually future proof in tech is talking about 5-7 years in most cases, of course nothing if future proof if you are looking longer than that, PC's, game consoles, cameras, it will all get outdated eventually.
I completely respect what you are saying regarding the iPhone, but just take a look at how many additional pieces of equipment you needed attached to the phone to make it useable. You've got the phone holder, the clip-on lens, and the mini tripod, (which admittedly you might still need anyway). Personally I'd rather just carry the camera.
I’ve done both IPhone 12pro, and have the ZV1 also and I still prefer the colors and look of my M50 MK2 for my studio camera for UA-cam. Just nice colors, way way better with low light.
I almost bought this camera 4 months ago, but I decided to get the a6600. I shot with it for a month and decided starting 2022 I will go Full Frame and traded it in to get the A7riii. With that being said I still shoot with my rebel t5 and I have to say I am still impressed with the photos it takes. So the M50 being better than the rebel t5 can be a great entry level option for beginners. Edit: Smart Phones have come a long way but the M50 paired with a really good lens will still blow it away. Smartphones still have lack luster bokeh because the software is doing it and oversharpness which causes your picture to look bleached.
The M50 still has a bigger sensor. When compared on a big screen I'd bet you can see a difference, and that the M50 is sharper and clearer. On a phone screen you can tune things like the saturation and sharpness to make it look sharper than an unprocessed image until you zoom in.
@@mikeb6927 Pixelation depends on the sensor megapixels as well as its low light handling capabilities and dynamic range. If the shot is properly exposed, then pixelation related to low light and dynamic range is less of an issue. Then when you're talking about sharpness that depends on the lens resolving power, field flatness, and how well the subject was in focus during the shot, as well as how much movement was in the camera during the exposure. Stabilizing the camera and increasing the shutter speed reduces motion blur. Using higher quality lenses that have better aberration correction, and primes which have fewer lens elements, or lower the f-stop will improve sharpness.
I was born with one hand, and show others how I workout with my one arm, drive exotic cars as well as daily Vlog and having a lightweight camera for my hand that autofocuses efficiently with an everlasting battery life is so crucial and important for me which is why the Sony A7III series is one of my favorite brands out there.
Im using m50 till now, and just realize how great this camera. Been using for 2 years i finally knew how to use it. Since sigma f.1/4 came out. And also crop for 4K is Useful too since i have no 30mm.
I started by creating many of my early UA-cam videos with my iPhone XR using Filmic Pro. I could say their quality was generally much better than my M50 until I finally learned how to work my M50 settings. Certainly cell phone advances can make for many positive improvements that would reduce the need for an M50. However, I think the M50 is far from being dead in the water and that’s because of its versatility and high quality photos/videos it produces. I would encourage those looking for a great value camera just beginning on UA-cam to get the Canon M50 Mk II. But I’m a long way from being done with my M50. Even if I acquired an iPhone 13 Pro.
@@Cherishthamoment I’m not a camera expert and struggled for a while because I didn’t understand ISO, shutter speed and frame rate. Also, I needed to get these right so my autofocus would work for a better video quality, and not be grainy as some of my earlier videos are. Tech Gear Talk helped me with autofocus and camera settings. Then I also found a video that taught me about ISO, frame rate and shutter speed and things changed from there. I shoot 24 frames per second/50 frame rate. I made adjustments to shutter speed and ISO at times even with the autofocus to get the video quality I want. It’s taken me two years to get this far- still have a ways to go so the work goes on. Hope that helps.
@@Cherishthamoment In looking back, one of the best UA-cam channels I found for M50 settings is titled, Tech Gear Talk. When I set up mine, I did it from watching his channel. This is the shorter version of what I wrote in my previous reply.
I love throw back vids to classic gear...I own the Lumix G9, Sony A7 3, and the M50 and I swear it might not be the fanciest out of the three but it is by far the easiest to use, more compact, beautiful colors, and has thee best user interface...so if you came to the comments to see other peoples opinions on if you should by it....just do it🤣
@@i890ola You probably asked this before knowing they were all out of stock. That was my journey, too, if so. The Canon's just dropped again at B&H but you have to buy it with the lens Omar shows in this video. And it's white if that doesn't bother you.
What is that lens that you have attached to it? Why do you just not use the stock lenses on the iphone? Also are you shooting with the native iphone video or app or something else?
Being real smart phones don’t compare to the Canon M50 I can tell right away when I’m watching content if it’s off an iPhone or not. I mean they look decent but quality wise regular cameras win easily. I mean I just got monetized(on my actual account, this is my personal account) and I been running with the M50 for over a year
They tell me I'm getting a new iPhone so I can make videos now on cause they can't afford to hire me then they say wow your videos look better than mine., Yeah because it's not the camera it's the skill
Bought m50 m2 it works well. very cost effective. Was shooting on my k20 pro earlier this is a good upgrade. Have to say camera is just a piece of equipment no matter how hight-tech just make content.
I have used Arri and Blackmagic during my college years. But, I don’t have the money to buy/ rent them. I got this camera when it was new and I have been loving it. It works. All cameras have their pros and cons, people will always judge you for your camera and if not that then your skills or your work. It’s a never-ending cycle. Let your work speak for yourself!
I shoot all of my videos on my iPhone 13 Pro Max, and all of my prior videos on my iPhone 11! My channel videos do quite well without a dedicated camera set-up! Originally the plan was I’d shoot my videos on my 11, and then save up for the Cannon M50. But when I upgraded my phone, I realized that at least for now, I’m just fine! Great video guys, keep ‘em coming!
I just purchased the m50 for my channel about a month ago and I love it. When I started youtube, first I used my phone, then I used a gopro and now I use the m50(my first nice camera). I don't think it's a bad buy given the features and it's ease of use for beginners.
And handling, focal length choice, aperture control, goofy AI fake bokeh, etc all suck on phones. These “content creators” seem to think their one dumb application of talking head UA-cam videos is the most important thing in the world. “Relevant?” 🤣💀Cringe
Edit: this is for the people who consider the camera to be dead. I think we shouldn't consider cameras "dead". Not even call it out dated yet. It's still a modern camera with great quality especially for it's price. And yes new cameras have been released with a better censor and autofocus. But can you afford them, or do you really need it? As long as you don't want to print on a 100x50 meter canvas there is nothing to worry about... People are picking up analoge camera's again. Prices went up on average 500-600% in the second hand market in the past 2-3 years. And are still rising rapidly because of demand. 15 years ago the where called dead as well. You don't need the newest, best, most expensive stuff that's available. Just keep it simple, if it works like you want it to, buy one and have fun with it! Even if it's a Nikon 😝
@@CharlonClarke It's a massive reason because of the time saving. You obviously know how hard it is to create content around normal life commitments. Having to process colour grading is hours I can save and spend with my family. Also all those extra hours of grind wear away at your confidence in doing UA-cam being worth it. Save as much time as you can!
I do have the Canon M50 and enjoy shooting with it! However being a beginning content creator I have found that creating videos on my smartphone has become easier to create content faster! Now I'm enjoying leveling up my accessories for both!
Agreed - over the holidays, I’ve been experimenting with my iPhone 12 and shooting videos with Filmic Pro, which is $15 on the app store in Canada. Incredible. Shallow depth of field is there. It’s always nice thinking about buying a full-blown DSLR but…why spend the cash when your iphone and a good app can do so much? I can mirror my iphone to my TV and use that as my viewfinder(!), and then connect good audio through the lightning to aux output to a Rode Video Micro - BUT I’m thinking of using the same TRRS cable to connect to my Zoom H4N, plugging in a boom mic, and bingo/bango/bongo. I always remind myself of the ALVS acronym I learned on Think Media - Audio first. That’s why I’m investing in a boom mic to upgrade my audio…but all that said - the point of buying a DSLR for talking head videos is not as necessary, if at all as I once thought.
This hurt to watch but I’m so glad you made this. I just got the M50 in October and love it for live-streaming and vlog style videos. And I got it for $400 with the kit lens on Canon refurbished
Glad I found this @ThinkMediaTV..Have owned the M50 mk1 for 3 years. Lots of comments on how it's still great (which it is) for many folks. I'm a musician first and foremost with perhaps some OCD that needs to create "quick" high quality video content (music production instruction, guitar demos, etc) that cannot futz around with manual settings, inconsistent focus/placement. The iPhone 13 is fantastic for photos and video content with immediate results for review/upload to iCloud..Besides you'll still want additional accessories for improved audio capabilities any way you look at it (full blown camera or iPhone) Agreed! the iPhone has caught up (shooting in 4K without much limitation/love Cinematic mode) which has been a compelling alternative! my M50 is on the block for sale.
I started off using my Android phone. It gave a great video. But it couldn't give the blurry background effect that I liked. So, I invested in the Canon M50 M2. I am not at all disappointed with my purchase. Excellent quality recording.
I still love my M50. Since I already have it with all the gear, I’ll continue to use but if I was in the market today for something, there’s definitely other options out there that give you a better bang for your buck.
Funny. I came across this video after just having sold my Sony a7ii. I sold it for the same reason you just brought up, our phones are now close to out performing a lot of cameras on the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm still looking for a camera to solely shoot photography here and there, but I'm finding myself use my phone for more creative content creation like video and recently even photography. Great video!
I love my M50. I've been upgrading my gear over the past 2 years and it's still my main work horse. I'll definitely be upgrading to 2nd camera in the coming years
The answer is to get a phone with a great camera AND an m50 with the viltrox speed booster and the nifty fifty and the canon 22mm f2 and keep your eyes open for a deal on both a decent zoom lens and a decent wide angle lens. If you are patient, you can find great deals and owning the speed booster makes it way better. I love that adapter. That extra light really adds to its value. I really digressed, but owning a mirrorless camera or any Interchangeable lens camera MUST be considered beyond just being able to shoot video and photos at the most affordable price. Having said all that, a good camera in a phone can definitely do the job.
Bought an M50 returned it to get a ZV1 (for the superior focus tracking, I thought). Ended up going back and buying the M50 again. Cost me $100 more. The price had gone up $100. But am happy with it.
It's more important to upload in 2.7k or 4k, for example after the original footage was upscaled, rather than the need to record in 4k, because this allows also small UA-camrs to get the vp9 codec, which makes a big difference
Great video! I have a M50 and been thinking of an upgrade it to next step due the videoquality while shooting drift events etc. but dont know where to go. Many use a Sony a7iii and maybe thats where I need to go next. Might keep the M50 as vlog camera still.
I always loved the thought & idea of vlogging with a vividly white camera that offers Something uniquely different to the vlogging scene with its features.
I gotta call BS on this video. The M50 is still a better tool for content creation than a smartphone. I wouldn't worry about 4K and "future proofing" for a few reasons. You need a good computer that can handle editing 4K footage before you even think about shooting in 4K. Also, it's really easy to sell a camera on the used market once you've outgrown it. It's not like you'll be stuck with it forever. I outgrew my SL2 in 6 months, sold it for $500, and put that cash toward a 90D. And even though I can shoot in 4K now I still prefer a 1080p workflow. Smaller files, easy to edit, and quicker to export/upload. Most people watch UA-cam on their phones which have 1080p screens and they probably leave the quality set to auto so they're really only watching in 480p or 720p. 4K is not that important. I do paid client work and no one has ever requested a 4K output. So to sum this up, I'd definitely recommend buying an M50 for content creation over just using your phone. The Canon DSLR/mirrorless "look" is more pleasing than Apple's iPhone "look", even if the iPhone is sharper.
Not to mention how disappointing those tiny sensors are when there is less light. I agree with the 4K point too. But in daylight, if you're starting out on creating videos, phone's are okay to begin with and can be a platform for learning video creation.
@@ravinchandra Agreed. I just don't think it's fair to say that smartphones outperform DSLR/mirrorless cameras. But if a phone is all you have then use it.
Looking for advice on choosing the best wide angle, low light, AF lens for my Canon M50. Which one of these is the best choice or is there another you would choose for the M50 within a $250 - $400 range? Also, would the VILTROX EF-EOS M2 Auto Focus Lens Adapter 0.71x Reducer Speed Booster work well with these lenses? My #1 choice "right now" Tokina Wide 11-16mm f2.8 Rokinon 10mm f2.8 Ultra Wide Angle Canon 10-18mm f2.8 Sigma 16mm f-1.4 A solid lens but not sure it's the best for real estate Rokinon 16M-C 16mm f/2.0 Aspherical Wide Angle Rokinon never made the 12mm f2.0 AF for the Canon, so that's out unfortunately! Thanks!
If I wanted to add on a lens to my iPhone 13 to make it look more like an canon what add on lens would you recommend? Is there a video that shows how to rig your iPhone the way you do in this video?? Or do I just need to to use an app like Protake to adjust the settings??
I recently sold my M50 and all the M Mount lenses I had in favor of the Panasonic G85. I like the fact that the Micro Four Thirds system offers a greater variety of lens choices. The G85 has 4K capability although there is a slight crop (not near as much as the M50). The only thing I miss about my M50 is the dual pixel autofocus. For not that much difference in price, the G85 blows the M50 out of the water IMO
Looking to get the GX8 or GX9 as a secondary camera. I have the M6 Mark II and a few EFM and EFS lens, so I'll probably stay, but those lumix gx series are neat and portable! Not to mention the M43 lens selection; Would love one for my construction work.
I still use my M50 and love it for talking head videos. it's permanently set up in my studio, but I did switch to the EOS R for vlogging and everything else. As I already have the M50, I wouldn't be in a hurry to drop it altogether, but agree, there are better options out there now👍
As someone who just bought a Samsung S21, and owns a Canon m50 mark ii, the camera functions on my S21 are simply amazing. You're right with asking yourself before, "What am I going to do with it?". You can also get lenses to go with your phone now that aren't going to break the bank as well as a microphone. Just always do your research before buying, the S21 doesn't have a microphone jack, so you either get a usb-c to 3.5mm adapter or get a Bluetooth microphone, that I didn't realize until I had the phone, but it's a simple fix!
Although phones are great camera devices, here are some things to consider - phones are still phones. What happens when a call comes in while recording? - the camera on the back is usually enter quality than front facing. W/o the screen facing you, how can you monitor the frame? - with iPhones, you’re gonna need dongles/adapters-lightning to… IMO I’d just keep it separated. But like you said, just make content 👍🏼
I have the canon m50 I barely used anymore. I use my Sony a6100 more cause it looks better more of the time (for streaming and sit down videos) and I end up using iPhone 13 pro max for vlogs cause it’s easy to pull out
The only thing where my current cellphone beats my Canon is HDR. The phone captures the screen of my MPC with good contrast without exposure compensation so the unit and background are still properly exposed. It would be great to get the same results with the Canon.
Sorry phone cams are not my thing. I would pick a Canon m50ii over a phone any day. Ease of use with SD cards, with interchangeable lenses make it more practical to me, not to mention cost. Right now on Amazon some great deals on the Canon m50ii. I am thinking of trading up my m6 to the m50ii so I can get the streaming function and also use it as a webcam. Also already have the Sigma 16mm in M mount you guys previously recommended. This camera is also good for a stabilized outdoor camera. But I can see that many people like using their phone cams and you have indeed shown this works well, if you have a top phone model like iphone 13 with adapted lens. Both work in my mind. People, pick your flavour!! and make videos.
Thanks for the video! Obviously subjective, however I find having the ability to work with ext. sound, transferring video files and locking in all your settings with the M50 is MUCH more convenient than shooting with your iPhone. BUT I look at the iPhone as another video option and use them both, as I use my DJI mini 2 and Hero 8. For me, I just won't shoot 10 min. of 4k on my iPhone and expect to have a pleasant time getting that file off my phone. Cheers!
I use my iPhone 12 more lately, I also have a Sony a6600, and I use to carry around almost 18 lbs of camera gear. I was a Canon user for many years, but I also used Nikon and Pentax and enjoyed them all.
I have a M50 for 2 years now ans still loving it although I use it for sit down videos. Mostly I use my dji and sony fdrx3000 for vlogging outside as I can plqce it anywhere without looking bulgy and eyed by someone and snatched it away. I just seldom use my phone as I want each to have their specific purpose like communication, one for underwater, one for vlogging, one for photography. 😊
I really dislike these photo professional who seem to try their best to downtalk the M50 camera and compare it to cell phones. Maybe there is some justification for videos but for photography it is total BS. The ergonomics of cell phones is just crappy.
Rumor has it Canon is coming out with the M50 Mark III in Q4 of 2022 which will address all the issues of the M50 Mark II such as (1) unlimited video recording, (2) dual pixel autofocus on 4K, (3) Remove the crop factor in 4K, (4) 120fps in 1080p. Hopefully the rumors are true
Look I have a M50 and although I love it, you are probably getting this camera as your first camera to try things out and although it’s great that your getting used to it, I 100000% agree that if your starting out and are honestly a little nervous to make videos or walk around with a camera then a phone is a great way to start because it’s a phone, it’s something every one has and is more easier to pull out and record to shoot. This video was probably perfect to the tea. Phones are so good nowadays that if you really want to create great photos or videos your best bet is to save money and invest in to a top camera. And while your doing that you can get used to pulling out your phone to take photos or video and creating in general because the hardest part about a camera in my opinion is pulling it out or creating videos with it. Honest I love think media because they help so much with camera information and info about UA-cam so throw them a follow. And if you liked what I said check out my Channel and let me know what you think, maybe even throw me a follow. Think media if you see this throw me a follow please 😅😂 you guys are great
Seeing as I just popped for the Canon M50 in April of this year, I’m actually THRILLED to hear your answer. Team M50, especially since I’m trying to hold off on upgrading my iPhone 8Plus until the 14 comes out. What are the deets on that mobile vlogging setup at 4:17 though?
I bought my canon m50 in December 2021 and i still love it, it’s in great condition, i will get the new iphone that will come out this year just so i can have two great vlogging items for my new channel . So it’s still an amazing camera
Camera that is more future proof and can go a long way?.. I lost it there. What exactly do you mean bro and which cameras do you recommend for photography and video. A lot of info out there. Any help on the right choice to make?
I think the M50 is still a good entry level camera but definitely agree with others that it’s going to be left by others that can shoot in 4k with no crop and good autofocus!! Definitely has its limitations I’ve found when making youtube vids
I just recently got an M50 with a 15-45 mm kit lens, I find it very limiting since I want to take portrait and architectural photography, I don't know whether to get ef lenses and an adapter or just get a different camera?
@@TheAgandaur I think the Canon SL3 is a great alternative, especially with it's native use of EF lenses, a lot of the same features and a large swath if lenses to choose from. At full retail price for the M50mkii your getting closed to a refurb RP which is a full frame camera and is an amazing value for the budget. And of course the Sony zv-e10 is a great body for the price and just by looking at its feature set it's pretty clear it's made to be a competitor to the M50MKII.
Question of the Day 💡Do you think the Canon M50 is Dead? Let us know! **** Check out my video comparing the Canon M50 Mark I vs Mark II HERE ➡ ua-cam.com/video/NCcbDidcwJE/v-deo.html
it's dead, and the Sony ZV-E10 its the better option for a bit more cash.
@@LittleMountainLife A better comparison is the newer Canon m50ii which has live-streaming option with clean HDMI out, and can be hooked up as a webcam. Although the Sony ZV-E10 does seem to have a bit better video quality from oversampling, the m50ii still does alright, and the m50ii outperforms the ZV-E10 a bit for stabilization outdoors for run and gun video capture with electronic stabilization turned on. That said, for just an in studio you tube camera the Sony ZV-E10 would have a bit better video image quality.
The Canon m50ii in my opinion are still relevant for 2022 and at a good price, and matched up with a Sigma 16mm M mount for wide angle and good lighting is a good option for HD1080 video, (unless you prefer 4K full screen, not everyone is doing 4K on You Tube, but some are though).
I do agree with most of your comments but for me the ability to use the aperture is better than my phone and I’m trying to get a very basic camera that has all the basics. Also the film course that I’m taking has taught me that the m50 can be used for all the plans I have. So even with this video to consider, I’m still going to save for the m50.
Still great Camera but Sony ZV-1 and Sony ZV E10 have taken over
*1st time won't agree with you .. i have an iphone, a Canon M50 and a Sony A7S3 .. the Canon M50 produces far better results then an iphone if used with a good lens and maual setting .. don't shoot auto .. see how good it is if you shoot in manual with a canon m50. the iphone sharpness is digital and very artificial looking .. and this is coming from some1 who has made 100 videos on youtube shooting with an iPhone*
If it worked last year, it works now - if you have one already. Don't let yourself become a gear snob and let that get in the way of making your art. Too many people let the technical nuances get in the way. Just do it.
I have a stock m50, and my buddy has a Sony A7 with a crazy telescopic lens... I have a cheap ring light that hums when I turn it too bright and a $75 RGB LED diffuse light. He has a full set of Astera Titan LED tubes x8 ($8500). But guess who is actually making content?
Not digging at my friend. He's an awesome talented dude and he's working on an album right now that is really impressive, but he could be so much further along if he didn't aim for an impossible standard. It's always better to start and then course correct than to try and plan everything. The field is constantly shifting and changing. Just take a stab at it and don't look back.
Thank you! Your comment is a reminder for those who get caught in the vicious cycle of comparisons for cameras.
Thanks, this actually inspired me. Perfectionism and having standards that are too high is stupid. MAKE CONTENT. MAKE MORE.
@@amj.composer well shit. You've reminded me again. I spent 5 hours last night recording take after take of the bridge of one song. That's crazy. I need to call it good, get it uploaded and move onto something I'm more comfortable with. 👍
Perfectionism is where good content dies. I need it tattooed on my brain.
YES!! THAT.
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FYI...No camera is "future proof." The relevant question is how long a particular camera will allow you to do what you want to do before it becomes limiting.
Exactly I used to have a Canon T5 I and if it wasn’t stolen then I would still be using it because it was a great camera.
Ironically working around the limits of an old or new camera can be half the fun IMO
From an old Polaroid Impluse AF and a Canon Rebel Ti 35mm camera to a Rebel T6 DSLR or the EOS M200 that I just got and plan to get Full-spectrum modified to act as a fun secondary camera, it's not about how "good" the camera is, it's about how much you can enjoy using it, I've seen people take amazing shots with 10mp point and shoot cameras from the thrift store, which is probably not a bad place to start before going all in on a camera, just make sure you know if it's a digital or film camera as film is tricky to get developed these days with fewer and fewer places to go
@@purrfectnails2473 damn bro that must suck
usually future proof in tech is talking about 5-7 years in most cases, of course nothing if future proof if you are looking longer than that, PC's, game consoles, cameras, it will all get outdated eventually.
I completely respect what you are saying regarding the iPhone, but just take a look at how many additional pieces of equipment you needed attached to the phone to make it useable. You've got the phone holder, the clip-on lens, and the mini tripod, (which admittedly you might still need anyway). Personally I'd rather just carry the camera.
The m50 is not the best but its better than the iPhone.
Bought mine in Oct.2019 and still love it, very powerful little camera.
agree! I use it for videos and it still blows me away with the new tips and tricks that I find out
I’ve done both IPhone 12pro, and have the ZV1 also and I still prefer the colors and look of my M50 MK2 for my studio camera for UA-cam. Just nice colors, way way better with low light.
absolutely
I almost bought this camera 4 months ago, but I decided to get the a6600. I shot with it for a month and decided starting 2022 I will go Full Frame and traded it in to get the A7riii. With that being said I still shoot with my rebel t5 and I have to say I am still impressed with the photos it takes. So the M50 being better than the rebel t5 can be a great entry level option for beginners.
Edit: Smart Phones have come a long way but the M50 paired with a really good lens will still blow it away. Smartphones still have lack luster bokeh because the software is doing it and oversharpness which causes your picture to look bleached.
The M50 still has a bigger sensor. When compared on a big screen I'd bet you can see a difference, and that the M50 is sharper and clearer. On a phone screen you can tune things like the saturation and sharpness to make it look sharper than an unprocessed image until you zoom in.
So when you blow up a phone image for printing you'll see the pixelation alot more then with a dslr upon editing?
@@mikeb6927 Pixelation depends on the sensor megapixels as well as its low light handling capabilities and dynamic range. If the shot is properly exposed, then pixelation related to low light and dynamic range is less of an issue.
Then when you're talking about sharpness that depends on the lens resolving power, field flatness, and how well the subject was in focus during the shot, as well as how much movement was in the camera during the exposure. Stabilizing the camera and increasing the shutter speed reduces motion blur. Using higher quality lenses that have better aberration correction, and primes which have fewer lens elements, or lower the f-stop will improve sharpness.
Don’t even bother with this dude in the video, he obviously knows nothing about cameras lmao
I was born with one hand, and show others how I workout with my one arm, drive exotic cars as well as daily Vlog and having a lightweight camera for my hand that autofocuses efficiently with an everlasting battery life is so crucial and important for me which is why the Sony A7III series is one of my favorite brands out there.
Im using m50 till now, and just realize how great this camera. Been using for 2 years i finally knew how to use it. Since sigma f.1/4 came out. And also crop for 4K is Useful too since i have no 30mm.
Still making vids with my Canon M50! It's been a great way to get started with UA-cam and learn everything along the way.
I started by creating many of my early UA-cam videos with my iPhone XR using Filmic Pro. I could say their quality was generally much better than my M50 until I finally learned how to work my M50 settings. Certainly cell phone advances can make for many positive improvements that would reduce the need for an M50. However, I think the M50 is far from being dead in the water and that’s because of its versatility and high quality photos/videos it produces. I would encourage those looking for a great value camera just beginning on UA-cam to get the Canon M50 Mk II. But I’m a long way from being done with my M50. Even if I acquired an iPhone 13 Pro.
Do you recommend a video on the m50 settings?
@@Cherishthamoment I’m not a camera expert and struggled for a while because I didn’t understand ISO, shutter speed and frame rate. Also, I needed to get these right so my autofocus would work for a better video quality, and not be grainy as some of my earlier videos are. Tech Gear Talk helped me with autofocus and camera settings. Then I also found a video that taught me about ISO, frame rate and shutter speed and things changed from there. I shoot 24 frames per second/50 frame rate. I made adjustments to shutter speed and ISO at times even with the autofocus to get the video quality I want. It’s taken me two years to get this far- still have a ways to go so the work goes on. Hope that helps.
@@Cherishthamoment In looking back, one of the best UA-cam channels I found for M50 settings is titled, Tech Gear Talk. When I set up mine, I did it from watching his channel. This is the shorter version of what I wrote in my previous reply.
I love throw back vids to classic gear...I own the Lumix G9, Sony A7 3, and the M50 and I swear it might not be the fanciest out of the three but it is by far the easiest to use, more compact, beautiful colors, and has thee best user interface...so if you came to the comments to see other peoples opinions on if you should by it....just do it🤣
Lumix G9 hopefully it wont taken as a gun if i ask for it at the store
@@filhanislamictv8712 🤣🤣
Which is the best camera to start shooting videos in my room for UA-cam? Canon M50 markii or Sony Zv-E10 ?
@@i890ola Can't go wrong with either. The Sony is the latest so it will offer more features.
@@i890ola You probably asked this before knowing they were all out of stock. That was my journey, too, if so. The Canon's just dropped again at B&H but you have to buy it with the lens Omar shows in this video. And it's white if that doesn't bother you.
What is that lens that you have attached to it? Why do you just not use the stock lenses on the iphone? Also are you shooting with the native iphone video or app or something else?
And still!!! Can’t beat this camera no matter what! Still a beast
Being real smart phones don’t compare to the Canon M50 I can tell right away when I’m watching content if it’s off an iPhone or not. I mean they look decent but quality wise regular cameras win easily. I mean I just got monetized(on my actual account, this is my personal account) and I been running with the M50 for over a year
I still get compliments about how film like my Canon 70D looks compared to the from footage from the latest iphones that my clients have
They tell me I'm getting a new iPhone so I can make videos now on cause they can't afford to hire me then they say wow your videos look better than mine.,
Yeah because it's not the camera it's the skill
At the end of the day it not the camera it's the content!!! Dream big guys!!! Go for gold!
Bought m50 m2 it works well. very cost effective. Was shooting on my k20 pro earlier this is a good upgrade. Have to say camera is just a piece of equipment no matter how hight-tech just make content.
I have used Arri and Blackmagic during my college years. But, I don’t have the money to buy/ rent them. I got this camera when it was new and I have been loving it. It works. All cameras have their pros and cons, people will always judge you for your camera and if not that then your skills or your work. It’s a never-ending cycle. Let your work speak for yourself!
My M50 was just listening this conversation and say to me:
I can hold more 3 years.
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I shoot all of my videos on my iPhone 13 Pro Max, and all of my prior videos on my iPhone 11! My channel videos do quite well without a dedicated camera set-up!
Originally the plan was I’d shoot my videos on my 11, and then save up for the Cannon M50. But when I upgraded my phone, I realized that at least for now, I’m just fine!
Great video guys, keep ‘em coming!
m50 for the win! its still a great camera, its not about the best gear it about how you use YOUR gear.
wise words! but your youtube name says it all...
I just purchased the m50 for my channel about a month ago and I love it. When I started youtube, first I used my phone, then I used a gopro and now I use the m50(my first nice camera). I don't think it's a bad buy given the features and it's ease of use for beginners.
Unfortunately phones perform terribly in low light
whoa whoa, don't come in here making sense lol
And handling, focal length choice, aperture control, goofy AI fake bokeh, etc all suck on phones. These “content creators” seem to think their one dumb application of talking head UA-cam videos is the most important thing in the world. “Relevant?” 🤣💀Cringe
Not too mention the sensor is different.
Also…an iPhone 13 min costs $629. Might as well just get the camera
4:15 "I found the iPhone to be a lil bit more simpler" .. proceeds to bring out iphone with 43 million gadgets
Edit: this is for the people who consider the camera to be dead.
I think we shouldn't consider cameras "dead". Not even call it out dated yet. It's still a modern camera with great quality especially for it's price. And yes new cameras have been released with a better censor and autofocus. But can you afford them, or do you really need it? As long as you don't want to print on a 100x50 meter canvas there is nothing to worry about... People are picking up analoge camera's again. Prices went up on average 500-600% in the second hand market in the past 2-3 years. And are still rising rapidly because of demand. 15 years ago the where called dead as well. You don't need the newest, best, most expensive stuff that's available. Just keep it simple, if it works like you want it to, buy one and have fun with it! Even if it's a Nikon 😝
If you already have an M50 like myself it makes sense to buy another because colour grading ends up being a hassle in the edit
thanks for that tip! would you say that's the only reason to get another one?
@@CharlonClarke It's a massive reason because of the time saving. You obviously know how hard it is to create content around normal life commitments. Having to process colour grading is hours I can save and spend with my family. Also all those extra hours of grind wear away at your confidence in doing UA-cam being worth it. Save as much time as you can!
@@rickysguitar thank you for that!
I do have the Canon M50 and enjoy shooting with it! However being a beginning content creator I have found that creating videos on my smartphone has become easier to create content faster! Now I'm enjoying leveling up my accessories for both!
I bought the canon m50 few months ago but still believe I make a great decision as a beginner in photography!
Agreed - over the holidays, I’ve been experimenting with my iPhone 12 and shooting videos with Filmic Pro, which is $15 on the app store in Canada. Incredible. Shallow depth of field is there. It’s always nice thinking about buying a full-blown DSLR but…why spend the cash when your iphone and a good app can do so much? I can mirror my iphone to my TV and use that as my viewfinder(!), and then connect good audio through the lightning to aux output to a Rode Video Micro - BUT I’m thinking of using the same TRRS cable to connect to my Zoom H4N, plugging in a boom mic, and bingo/bango/bongo. I always remind myself of the ALVS acronym I learned on Think Media - Audio first. That’s why I’m investing in a boom mic to upgrade my audio…but all that said - the point of buying a DSLR for talking head videos is not as necessary, if at all as I once thought.
Right now I can buy the Canon M50 but saving some money for the Sony Alpha A6400 because I want a great future proof camera
This hurt to watch but I’m so glad you made this. I just got the M50 in October and love it for live-streaming and vlog style videos. And I got it for $400 with the kit lens on Canon refurbished
400?! nice! I got mine at full price a couple months back. I can't wait to live stream also!
@@CharlonClarke it’s great for livestreaming. I use it with the Canon utility and it runs perfect.
@@JustLarry315 canon utility? Thanks! I'll check it out, I definitely wanted to do that very soon
The M50 is what I've been using for the past 18 months and use for my UA-cam channel.
I just bought it because of you guys! Making great vids though anyway for me
Glad I found this @ThinkMediaTV..Have owned the M50 mk1 for 3 years. Lots of comments on how it's still great (which it is) for many folks. I'm a musician first and foremost with perhaps some OCD that needs to create "quick" high quality video content (music production instruction, guitar demos, etc) that cannot futz around with manual settings, inconsistent focus/placement. The iPhone 13 is fantastic for photos and video content with immediate results for review/upload to iCloud..Besides you'll still want additional accessories for improved audio capabilities any way you look at it (full blown camera or iPhone) Agreed! the iPhone has caught up (shooting in 4K without much limitation/love Cinematic mode) which has been a compelling alternative! my M50 is on the block for sale.
am sorry to say that but the m50 video quality looks way better than my samsung A10s video quality😂
lol @ non tv Samsungs
Been using an M50 for about a year now and its amazing still to this day. Covers all my needs.
I am happy to hear this 😊…. I have one too and I’m still learning so it’s fine for me…
Yeah I bought the mk2 just for my desk setup, but I definitely used my IPhone 12 for vlogging when I do it, much lighter setup.
what camera was this video taken on? tell me please?
I started off using my Android phone. It gave a great video. But it couldn't give the blurry background effect that I liked. So, I invested in the Canon M50 M2. I am not at all disappointed with my purchase. Excellent quality recording.
I still love my M50. Since I already have it with all the gear, I’ll continue to use but if I was in the market today for something, there’s definitely other options out there that give you a better bang for your buck.
Can u list some?
Like what?
“Using my iPhone is simpler than a full blow camera” but your iPhone looks like this 4:24 lmao
Funny. I came across this video after just having sold my Sony a7ii. I sold it for the same reason you just brought up, our phones are now close to out performing a lot of cameras on the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm still looking for a camera to solely shoot photography here and there, but I'm finding myself use my phone for more creative content creation like video and recently even photography. Great video!
I love my M50. I've been upgrading my gear over the past 2 years and it's still my main work horse. I'll definitely be upgrading to 2nd camera in the coming years
I love mines too!
I’m a beginner and it works just fine for me.
The answer is to get a phone with a great camera AND an m50 with the viltrox speed booster and the nifty fifty and the canon 22mm f2 and keep your eyes open for a deal on both a decent zoom lens and a decent wide angle lens. If you are patient, you can find great deals and owning the speed booster makes it way better. I love that adapter. That extra light really adds to its value. I really digressed, but owning a mirrorless camera or any Interchangeable lens camera MUST be considered beyond just being able to shoot video and photos at the most affordable price. Having said all that, a good camera in a phone can definitely do the job.
But, its a problem buying a canon m50 mII a refurbished?
no, I wouldn't say it is
Bought an M50 returned it to get a ZV1 (for the superior focus tracking, I thought). Ended up going back and buying the M50 again. Cost me $100 more. The price had gone up $100. But am happy with it.
What was wrong with the focus tracking? Was it not working?
@@MicheleAdjoa The focus-tracking on the sony was fine. I found IO preferred the interface for the M50. Even if it lacked a little in the tracking.
What was the cool light you were using?
Think's B-Roll is just amazing. So smooth...
It's more important to upload in 2.7k or 4k, for example after the original footage was upscaled, rather than the need to record in 4k, because this allows also small UA-camrs to get the vp9 codec, which makes a big difference
💯% this. vp9 codec is the way to go, even if footage is only 1080p. Huge difference in quality on YT playback.
Great video! I have a M50 and been thinking of an upgrade it to next step due the videoquality while shooting drift events etc. but dont know where to go. Many use a Sony a7iii and maybe thats where I need to go next. Might keep the M50 as vlog camera still.
I always loved the thought & idea of vlogging with a vividly white camera that offers Something uniquely different to the vlogging scene with its features.
I gotta call BS on this video. The M50 is still a better tool for content creation than a smartphone. I wouldn't worry about 4K and "future proofing" for a few reasons. You need a good computer that can handle editing 4K footage before you even think about shooting in 4K. Also, it's really easy to sell a camera on the used market once you've outgrown it. It's not like you'll be stuck with it forever. I outgrew my SL2 in 6 months, sold it for $500, and put that cash toward a 90D. And even though I can shoot in 4K now I still prefer a 1080p workflow. Smaller files, easy to edit, and quicker to export/upload. Most people watch UA-cam on their phones which have 1080p screens and they probably leave the quality set to auto so they're really only watching in 480p or 720p. 4K is not that important. I do paid client work and no one has ever requested a 4K output. So to sum this up, I'd definitely recommend buying an M50 for content creation over just using your phone. The Canon DSLR/mirrorless "look" is more pleasing than Apple's iPhone "look", even if the iPhone is sharper.
Not to mention how disappointing those tiny sensors are when there is less light. I agree with the 4K point too.
But in daylight, if you're starting out on creating videos, phone's are okay to begin with and can be a platform for learning video creation.
@@ravinchandra Agreed. I just don't think it's fair to say that smartphones outperform DSLR/mirrorless cameras. But if a phone is all you have then use it.
Looking for advice on choosing the best wide angle, low light, AF lens for my Canon M50.
Which one of these is the best choice or is there another you would choose for the M50 within a $250 - $400 range?
Also, would the VILTROX EF-EOS M2 Auto Focus Lens Adapter 0.71x Reducer Speed Booster work well with these lenses?
My #1 choice "right now"
Tokina Wide 11-16mm f2.8
Rokinon 10mm f2.8 Ultra Wide Angle
Canon 10-18mm f2.8
Sigma 16mm f-1.4 A solid lens but not sure it's the best for real estate
Rokinon 16M-C 16mm f/2.0 Aspherical Wide Angle
Rokinon never made the 12mm f2.0 AF for the Canon, so that's out unfortunately!
Thanks!
If I wanted to add on a lens to my iPhone 13 to make it look more like an canon what add on lens would you recommend? Is there a video that shows how to rig your iPhone the way you do in this video?? Or do I just need to to use an app like Protake to adjust the settings??
If I already have a 13 pro max , with a Dji OM 5, can I still buy this M50 Mark II for photos ?
My M50 served me well but I recently upgraded to a Sony A74 and I’m so glad I did.
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*I still Keep My ZV-1 because it's a compact camera that fits in my pocket and with the wireless Mics can too fit in your pocket*
You make a Lotta good points to get rid of my M 50
I recently sold my M50 and all the M Mount lenses I had in favor of the Panasonic G85. I like the fact that the Micro Four Thirds system offers a greater variety of lens choices. The G85 has 4K capability although there is a slight crop (not near as much as the M50). The only thing I miss about my M50 is the dual pixel autofocus. For not that much difference in price, the G85 blows the M50 out of the water IMO
Looking to get the GX8 or GX9 as a secondary camera. I have the M6 Mark II and a few EFM and EFS lens, so I'll probably stay, but those lumix gx series are neat and portable!
Not to mention the M43 lens selection; Would love one for my construction work.
For a smaller sensor?? Why?
I get your point, but I enjoy using a camera, changing lenses, post editing... That kind of stuff
I still use my M50 and love it for talking head videos. it's permanently set up in my studio, but I did switch to the EOS R for vlogging and everything else. As I already have the M50, I wouldn't be in a hurry to drop it altogether, but agree, there are better options out there now👍
Not dead for me... I love mine. Using it as a Webcam for my wealth Engineering podcast
As someone who just bought a Samsung S21, and owns a Canon m50 mark ii, the camera functions on my S21 are simply amazing. You're right with asking yourself before, "What am I going to do with it?". You can also get lenses to go with your phone now that aren't going to break the bank as well as a microphone. Just always do your research before buying, the S21 doesn't have a microphone jack, so you either get a usb-c to 3.5mm adapter or get a Bluetooth microphone, that I didn't realize until I had the phone, but it's a simple fix!
Yea but still nothing beats the feel of and actual camera
Although phones are great camera devices, here are some things to consider
- phones are still phones. What happens when a call comes in while recording?
- the camera on the back is usually enter quality than front facing. W/o the screen facing you, how can you monitor the frame?
- with iPhones, you’re gonna need dongles/adapters-lightning to…
IMO I’d just keep it separated. But like you said, just make content 👍🏼
I have the canon m50 I barely used anymore. I use my Sony a6100 more cause it looks better more of the time (for streaming and sit down videos) and I end up using iPhone 13 pro max for vlogs cause it’s easy to pull out
Bought mine in April, somewhat knowing this. Kinda sad, but I have it and an M2 with the 22mm and the 18-55mm lens. Got all of this for $700
Fire deal - keep crushing with it
if your phone if flipped around backwards, how can you tell if you're in the frame? is that some sort of mirror on top?
The only thing where my current cellphone beats my Canon is HDR. The phone captures the screen of my MPC with good contrast without exposure compensation so the unit and background are still properly exposed. It would be great to get the same results with the Canon.
Looking at your iPhone @ 4:25 in this video would it be fair to say you're not just using your iPhone?
Thank you for the phone comparison, that's so interesting
Sorry phone cams are not my thing. I would pick a Canon m50ii over a phone any day. Ease of use with SD cards, with interchangeable lenses make it more practical to me, not to mention cost. Right now on Amazon some great deals on the Canon m50ii. I am thinking of trading up my m6 to the m50ii so I can get the streaming function and also use it as a webcam. Also already have the Sigma 16mm in M mount you guys previously recommended. This camera is also good for a stabilized outdoor camera. But I can see that many people like using their phone cams and you have indeed shown this works well, if you have a top phone model like iphone 13 with adapted lens. Both work in my mind. People, pick your flavour!! and make videos.
Thanks for the video! Obviously subjective, however I find having the ability to work with ext. sound, transferring video files and locking in all your settings with the M50 is MUCH more convenient than shooting with your iPhone. BUT I look at the iPhone as another video option and use them both, as I use my DJI mini 2 and Hero 8. For me, I just won't shoot 10 min. of 4k on my iPhone and expect to have a pleasant time getting that file off my phone. Cheers!
I use my iPhone 12 more lately, I also have a Sony a6600, and I use to carry around almost 18 lbs of camera gear.
I was a Canon user for many years, but I also used Nikon and Pentax and enjoyed them all.
I have a M50 for 2 years now ans still loving it although I use it for sit down videos. Mostly I use my dji and sony fdrx3000 for vlogging outside as I can plqce it anywhere without looking bulgy and eyed by someone and snatched it away. I just seldom use my phone as I want each to have their specific purpose like communication, one for underwater, one for vlogging, one for photography. 😊
I really dislike these photo professional who seem to try their best to downtalk the M50 camera and compare it to cell phones. Maybe there is some justification for videos but for photography it is total BS. The ergonomics of cell phones is just crappy.
Rumor has it Canon is coming out with the M50 Mark III in Q4 of 2022 which will address all the issues of the M50 Mark II such as (1) unlimited video recording, (2) dual pixel autofocus on 4K, (3) Remove the crop factor in 4K, (4) 120fps in 1080p. Hopefully the rumors are true
Still a very good camera in 2022
Thanks for the info. I have the M50 but I also bought the iPhone 13 Pro Max a few weeks later LOL
Look I have a M50 and although I love it, you are probably getting this camera as your first camera to try things out and although it’s great that your getting used to it, I 100000% agree that if your starting out and are honestly a little nervous to make videos or walk around with a camera then a phone is a great way to start because it’s a phone, it’s something every one has and is more easier to pull out and record to shoot.
This video was probably perfect to the tea. Phones are so good nowadays that if you really want to create great photos or videos your best bet is to save money and invest in to a top camera. And while your doing that you can get used to pulling out your phone to take photos or video and creating in general because the hardest part about a camera in my opinion is pulling it out or creating videos with it.
Honest I love think media because they help so much with camera information and info about UA-cam so throw them a follow.
And if you liked what I said check out my Channel and let me know what you think, maybe even throw me a follow.
Think media if you see this throw me a follow please 😅😂 you guys are great
Me: Just got the M50 w/ 2 lens kit for $1000+, which is 1/3 what my vehicle cost.
Also me: Watches video saying it’s dead.
Great.
The best camera for the job is the one you have. Don't get sucked into the latest and greatest.
Always interesting..
Hoping for peace and a happy new year.
Greetings to all the viewers.
Seeing as I just popped for the Canon M50 in April of this year, I’m actually THRILLED to hear your answer. Team M50, especially since I’m trying to hold off on upgrading my iPhone 8Plus until the 14 comes out. What are the deets on that mobile vlogging setup at 4:17 though?
I bought my canon m50 in December 2021 and i still love it, it’s in great condition, i will get the new iphone that will come out this year just so i can have two great vlogging items for my new channel . So it’s still an amazing camera
Do you have the m50 or the m50 mark II? Doesn’t the 2nd one have better features than the first?
@@MicheleAdjoa I have the m50
Ohh okay I was just looking them up. They don’t sell that ig because there’s only the 2nd one so I’ll wait.
Now its nearly 2022 I got to throw the M50 in the dustin bin and get an iphone. 😂😆😆
Camera that is more future proof and can go a long way?.. I lost it there. What exactly do you mean bro and which cameras do you recommend for photography and video. A lot of info out there. Any help on the right choice to make?
Bro, you gave Heart attacks at intro saying NO for 2022 for Cannon M50 🤣🤣.
I think the M50 is still a good entry level camera but definitely agree with others that it’s going to be left by others that can shoot in 4k with no crop and good autofocus!! Definitely has its limitations I’ve found when making youtube vids
how did you put a mirror on your vlogging setup? 4:22
I love the form factor of the M 50. I’m thinking of getting the RP.
I love my M50. I use it for my videos at home, but I vlog with my Note 9. :)
Does it have a clean HDMI out and option for auto shutdown deactivation, all for live streaming function?
Although it's not the best camera, I'm also a beginner. As long as it has good quality
I just recently got an M50 with a 15-45 mm kit lens, I find it very limiting since I want to take portrait and architectural photography, I don't know whether to get ef lenses and an adapter or just get a different camera?
Love my Canon m50
The tripod you had for your phone with monitor to be able to see myself, where can I find that?
Where can I buy the xenvo lens? I live in singapore, do they ship here?
i love my M50, definitely if you already have it its totally worth it, but there are SO many newer options out there...
What would you say is a great alternative for the same price?
@@TheAgandaur I think the Canon SL3 is a great alternative, especially with it's native use of EF lenses, a lot of the same features and a large swath if lenses to choose from. At full retail price for the M50mkii your getting closed to a refurb RP which is a full frame camera and is an amazing value for the budget. And of course the Sony zv-e10 is a great body for the price and just by looking at its feature set it's pretty clear it's made to be a competitor to the M50MKII.