Jerry Seinfeld Is Tired of Political Correctness - Late Night with Seth Meyers
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- Seinfeld says "there's a creepy PC thing out there that really bothers me."
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Jerry Seinfeld Is Tired of Political Correctness - Late Night with Seth Meyers
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Seinfeld is one of the "cleanest" comics out there and the fact that he's hitting speech barriers is troubling. *Very* troubling.
The PC crowd was angry that day, my friends.. like an old man trying to send soup back at a deli.
Another sorros-funded troll. We know all about you people thanks to the recent veritas videos. As if Seinfeld is the only one that's raised this issue. Many prominent comics have. Luis CK even quit the internet recently.
All Marine Biologists are PC.
Its sad that Jerry Seinfeld the most careful comic around finds it impossible to do a good monologue without censoring himself over some microscopic specific detail but I guess its the times we live in. I don't even have half his attention to detail so its the noose for me :(.
Yes, isn't it amazing that a whole audience will sit there while a "comedian" uses the F-word every third word and they're in stitches, yet "gay French king" is offensive. SMH...
George Carlin famously said " As a comedian, if I'm not crossing the line, I'm not doing my job."
+Malcolm Nicoll fucking amen to that
+Malcolm Nicoll AMEN
The problem is, that there are plenty of comedians who don't insult others. I'm not saying that as a comedian you should never cross any line, I'm just saying that George Carlin's statement is easily proven false.
This exactly. People underappreciate that comedians are some of the most astute observers of popular culture, and that part of their job is to push this "line"
That quote was wrongly attributed to George, it was actually said by Carrot Top
“Political correctness is America's newest form of intolerance, and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet attempts to restrict and control people's language with strict codes and rigid rules. I'm not sure that's the way to fight discrimination. I'm not sure silencing people or forcing them to alter their speech is the best method for solving problems that go much deeper than speech.” - George Carlin
BlueHooloovoo define facism for me. thats what I thought
Mike C facism? Is that, like, when you think your face is superior to everyone else’s face?
It’s Marxism.
Ironically, Seth Meyers is big in the PC crowd.
Captain Jack Sparrow I could tell when he called Jenner a she 10 times in a row to avoid any confusion of how much of a sheep he is.
lkjhlkh1000 That's moronic.
lkjhlkh1000 He literally said "she" three times where the use of a pronoun was needed. What else did you want him to say?
He could have said "HE" if he wanted to flush his career down the toilet.
It's considered politically correct to call a man a "she" just to not be rude. And that's what the guy above was saying, that Seth Meyers is PC.
I'm a gay french king and I thought it was funny.
You do have a royal name.
That's because hetero-cis-white-male-patriarchy conditioned you to have internalized self-hate.
Ha Ha Ha you tube comment of the year.
Can you give me a grant?
Well you look more like a transgender nazi philosopher?
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
-Voltaire
+Iambic Pentameter that doesn't apply though...
+MindTheJourney Why not? The beauty of the quote is that it isn't referring to political leaders because that's obvious. PC governs what we are allowed to say and even our political views. Have a problem with uncontrolled immigration? That's racist. In favour of a policy to help reduce deficit? You're privileged and you need to check it.
+Iambic Pentameter
This is a classic mistake of quotation gone wrong.
You are perfectly allowed to make fun of other people.
No one is going to put you in jail if you do.
Just don't expect them to always like you.
Which is what Seinfield is trying to do.
+Jazzcat135
Sure you are allowed to say anything. No one jail you for what you say.
Check out what the neonazis and the white supremacists are saying all over the place. Heck, even the KKK has chapters all over the US.
That apply to other people though - they have the right to say anything too - including calling you a racist, whether you are or not. Free speech works both way dude.
Public shaming is NOT prohibition. If you are going to say unpopular things, you'd better have a thick skin. You'll need it.
hereiam2005 I assume you are from the USA were you have good freedom of speech laws. Over here in the UK it isn't quite as peachy. A few years ago the labour party tried to ban Islamophobia and lots of things are being banned in university campuses all the time.
Seth meyers belongs to the PC crowd....
Yet here you are...
Yes he does, which is why he is obnoxious. I'm glad he cried the other night when Clinton lost.
That was exactly my thought too. Jerry called Seth out for being part of the problem and Seth just started back-tracking, but we all know Seth's opinions on this stuff. He just didn't have the spine to back up his beliefs and go up against one of the great comedians, since he knew he would be chewed up and spit out by Jerry.
epicwinguyz does it trigger you?
Seinfeld is living proof making a shitload of money in the middle of your career frees you not to sell out in the future.
It's easier if you've never been that funny to begin with.
KingAlexei 777 So?
+KingAlexei and?
If i made a shitload of money it would be the end of my career.
Seinfeld didn't have much of a career after the show, which got noticeably worse after Larry David left anyway. I mean, he's funny and all, but I doubt he would be anywhere near as famous if it hadn't been for the show and especially David's writing. Everything he did afterwards was basically handed to him because of the shows popularity. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it but he's far from the sacred comedy god some people make him out to be.
You know when Jerry Seinfeld, a comedian about as spicy as a can of baked beans, is calling out political correctness, the lines have been pushed back way too far.
yep
yes
+jigyoda lol wouldn't the ones who need a safe space be the ones complaining to him about the gay french king joke? lol
There are no lines. When you people finally figure that out it will be way too late. If I were to grade this society on a curve against me personally, you all fail.
Keith Robinson dude your not a philosopher there are lines they have just been getting easier and easier to cross as time goes on
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners."
Charlton Heston
18661873 Yeah, but in the time that's ensued since Chuck died, they've gotten rid of the manners.
18661873 Okay, are you seriously suggesting that not insulting people is on par with being forced into slavery?
malcasablanca
Seriously, I don't understand a word you are trying to say.
18661873 Should I use smaller words?
malcasablanca
No, just reel in that over active mind of yours a bit. Charlton Heston was saying that political correctness employed as a means of controlling speech (as it is today) becomes a form of soft tyranny. Get it?
Jerry is so bright
he burns the bs to a crisp
Need more Jerry
no we dont. if someone made a joke about jews, he would go crazy. that person might not be employed.
The Truth LOL would something like that really offend him? It would be very hypocritical of him if that is really true.
@@antmlova1 have you ever watched his show? , there are whole shows that are Jew jokes. Remember the one about the shiksa and the rabbi?
@@antmlova1to be fair you could never make fun of Jews even back since hollywoods conception.
I love how Jerry takes over the interview. He's such a legend he can just push around Seth and the other guy.
Somethings fucked up if a clean comedian like Seinfeld feels uncomfortable saying certain jokes. He won't even go to college campuses.
I'm in college it's so PC here i don't care anyway I make politically incorrect jokes
mrsuns10 God bless you in your pursuit of political incorrectness.
Goblin GirlZappa §
SonjaSmith safe spaces for women only, my university tried to build one for men and the feminists went crazy about it
D2attemp Erin Patria Margaret Pizzey started one of the first domestic violence shelters. she found that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are equally as capable of violence as men. she was in the process of opening a shelter for men, and for this she got death threats to her and her entire family, bomb threats, pickets and boycotts, finally her dog was killed and she fled the UK. Domestic violence is 50% reciprocal, 36% perpetrated by WOMEN, 15% perpetrated by men. (CDC 2001)
Jerry Seinfeld is so completely right.
We are moving towards a very miserable future with all the PC movement.
+Misbehave
Jerry Seinfeld is so completely wrong.
People don't always get along. It's a big society. It has always been like this. You just "connect" to more people now.
If you want to know how much we used to disagree with each others, take a good look at the Civil War.
People have the right to be offended. You have the right to ignore them.
No one has the right to control the way other people think.
hereiam2005
That's exactly what the PC thought police are trying to do, and you're defending them.
Averyofthemain
Yes.
I am defending their right to be self righteous assholes.
+hereiam2005 But overzealous PC people are also self righteous assholes.
Demon Hunter
Precisely my point.
They have the right to be self righteous assholes.
Comedian who earn a living insulting people but still want people to pay for his performances does not have that right.
8 years since this video was made and it feels like it could've been made today still.
Yes, the people foaming at the mouth of Bud Light are still whining about "political correctness."
Man I hate how things have gone bad to worse, especially the video game and movie industry. Thanks sweetbabyinc and kathleen kennedy
yeah, still people claiming on a late show that their voice is being silenced because they criticize a (bad) joke
Seems like things went completely over some people's heads. Jerry isn't complaining that some people aren't laughing (something every comedian knows.) He's saying he's tired of the people that get "outraged", get in your face and tell you you're not funny, heckle you, use their platforms to denounce you (unethically abusing their power in the process)...all because you made light of something they are attached to which is a completely fair argument.
When you're on stage and you see someone not laughing you notice, but its nothing. When they stand up on a soap box and exclaim "You're NOT funny because I am morally superior and know better!" then that person becomes an asshat and tiresome after awhile.
Frankly, if a gay French king didn't make flourishing motions, I'd be disappointed.
Oui oui j'suis en d'accord hon hon hon
People on social media ruin comedy and other genres by being politically correct, then contradict themselves by being just as offensive everywhere else
It's not on the description but the other guest is David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker magazine.
Classic Seinfeld this felt like a conversation between Jerry and George in that diner booth.
Jerry Seinfeld hates PC? I thought I couldn't love him anymore.
lol
*Any more
That's the funny thing thought I think the majority of people hate PC culture, but they are too afraid to speak against it because they fear the consequences. Only a minority defends this social authoritarianism.
No kidding. By far my favorite comedian. Bill Burr might be a close second.
Being politically correct has a purpose. Hint, its in the name..
It's really important that someone like Jerry Seinfeld is speaking out against PC.
Imo Jerry's basic point is right, but I wouldn't choose him as someone who personally has the empathy to judge which jokes aren't worth saying. "Gay" was used to mean "lame" relentlessly for decades. Jerry isn't gay (nor am I). Given everything else gay people have been through, I bet you they, and e.g. some of their family members and friends, are bored with and/or tired of jokes in which "gay" describes the person who's being lame. Apparently that audience largely reacted that way. I'm not arguing that it was "wrong" to tell the joke, but if an audience wasn't into that joke, that's on him as a comedian -- and he, conveniently, is whining that it isn't.
Joseph Scott Good point, but let's be real: the audience was pissed because of the fact that he dared to poke fun at a protected class. Not because the joke was unfunny(which it was, btw).
Well it's a bunch of different people so very likely some of both of those.
***** No idea what you are trying to say.
***** no problem :)
I kinda like this. Three comedians sitting around a table, discussing comedy in a casual manner. Especially with Jerry Seinfeld in the room. That guy turns anything comical. He really needs to return to tv sitcoms
0:10 guy to right of Jerry looks just like Joe Pesci in 'Raging Bull'.
Wow! He really does.
Yes!
I thought he was Kramer after some plastic surgery.
I thought he was a reconstructed Paul Reiser
Leno talked about not doing colleges because of PC now a day. He was offered mexican food and he doesn't like it that much and he was told that that was racist... c'mon!!!!! #Sensitive
Alán Felipe Payán Denogeán To be fair. Leno is an idiot.
Titus McCarthy Chris Rock said the same about colleges.
Darji8114 Don't bother with Tit us. His illiterate responses are all very bigoted and anti intellectual.
Modest Mouseketeer Modest? Like an over ripe turd.
Grey Winters
It's a band name, dipshit. The fact that you're a Leno fan shows just how much of an intellectual you are.
I'm not gay.... Not that there's anything wrong with that.
No soup for you! one year.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, to sleep better.
That renders you a white privileged supremacist.
Of course not
Some people don't get it because they didn't watch the show.
‘I can imagine a time…’ Well no need, the time has come. He wouldn’t even try that joke now !
It’s 4:40 am and I’m LMAO with the “French gay king” 🤣😂😅😤
What'd be worse: Living in a world where nobody took themselves too seriously, or living in a world where everyone is somehow a victim, is constantly offended, and whiny?
A Mill
the second one sounds like a scary, shitty place....*defeated*
Prodigysportsman Sounds like reality.
Let's put it another way: Live in a world of rational people, or live in the Tumblrverse?
A Mill
The second one....
From orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Happening right now with idiots flipping out over a flag.
He's not as tired of it as Kramer though.
BinkieMcFartnuggets lolllllll xD
FungusMossGnosis if his bit is yelling the n-word at black people, I think his suffering is justified.
No NO Not a believer in forgiveness, eh?
What has he done to earn forgiveness?
***** But is it though? When Daniel Tosh said about a woman in the audience "Wouldn't it be funny if that girl got raped by like five guys right now? Like right now?" he got dragged through the coals for that BUT so many comedians defended him. They talked about him being a comedian and that nothing should be off limits. Tosh apologized and has now basically been forgiven. So why should Tosh be able to say about a woman in the audience that it would be sooo funny if she was gang raped but Kramer can't be forgiven for something he said like 9 years ago. Is it worse to say something racist than something sexist?
Seth seems to be the only late night host today that lets his guests continue a discussion without interrupting them incessantly to throw in some stupid joke or promotion.
Wouldn't a gay French King be a French Queen?
MoeGreensLeftEye 🤣
best line ever!
So let him eat his cake
"not that there's anything wrong with it!"
This should be a canary in the coalmine for people. When Jerry Seinfeld, of all the comedians in the world, is saying political correctness has gone too far, there must really be a problem. The modern PC is proving George Carlin to be more and more correct every day when he said the political correctness is fascism posing as manners.
Fowl Canuck Seinfeld has always been a low empathy out of touch asshole
@Jim Brodie Sounds like I triggered you
1:00 And just like that we are there. Jerry Seinfeld predicting the future.
Seth and his audience are the ones doing it 😂
Hmmm, I guess he does have a point. Sometimes with political correctness, some people will over-analyze things and judge everything in an attempt to not judge anything. I sometimes do this too.
SkitterNSnicklez praise the doge!
SkitterNSnicklez praise the doge!
SkitterNSnicklez Why do you do this? What purpose does it serve?
Exactly. The Ultimate PC Hypocrisy.
3:10 "now you!!!!" Seth meyers probably shat his pants, he knew Seinfeld was being real with his guest now he's going to let Seth have some taste of it, seth was probably pressing the emergency PC avengers button under his desk, Amy Poehler, James Corden, Wanda Sykes, and Matt Damon all summoned
All the PC avengers showed up after the show, and Jerry kicked all their asses... So they had to edit that part out!
LMAO
They turned on Damon now, because he had the audacity to say that grabbing some ass isn't as bad as violent rape. What a world...
Rocco DiMeo, i cant believe Richie took your jacket.
I like how Jerry pretty much takes over as the host lol.
Hahah he does!!
"Nobody gets carte blanche on this show"
Suuuuuuuuuure
The fact that people get offended when someone refers to someone or something as "gay" gives the actual term stigma and negativity and it makes things worse. I honesty think people who want to be politically correct all the time regarding: Feminism, racism, sexism, etc are wasting most of their energy fighting a cause with indecisive motives just to seek approval and validation from the uninformed public only to result in more negativity and stigma while devaluing and degrading the actual cause.
This is one of the most logical and well written out responses I have ever read. You couldn't hit the nail more on the head. Bravo, sir!
Ariful Karim I agreed with the point being made in the vid about being overly-PC. But your comment misses the mark. Gay people want to stop feeling "lesser" than non-gay people, and it just plain old feels good to get occasional positive reinforcement. Seinfeld's joke analogy about a "gay king" should be offensive to exactly no one - it's a funny image, and it's the kind of joke he specializes in, which is remarking, with love, not hate, about the human condition.
This is *not* the same thing as turning the word "gay" from (A:) being the pride-point it was initially intended to be by the community that more or less claimed it away from its original meaning (happy), into (B:) a substitute for "weak", "lame", "useless", or "shitty".
"OMG, he totally crashed his bike into a fire hydrant and broke his leg in 11 places. That's so gay."
And the great thing is, not only do you not care that the result of this is to usurp the positive pride-filled connotation the word was intended to signify with a connotation that is irresolutely negative, but now, you're actually blaming those who are hurt by that switch in connotation. You're blaming them! It's genius.
Seinfeld does have a point about cellphones. "people are so important, I have to have it with me."
Meanwhile they're ignoring whoever is across from them at dinner or in front of them elsewhere in RL.
"Ahhhhhh the day!" hahahaha
1:20 At that "You can also screw up" line, Jerry has a momentary Michael Richards flashback, then bounces back to reality.
when Jerry, Mr Clean, Seinfeld is calling out society on being too PC, you know your fucking society is way too PC...
he's thinking bee
+Darcie Shepherd lol
cmz8706 didn't he date an underage girl when he was around 40?
cmz8706 shoshanna lonstein. look it up.
fyoukim12 apparently she was 16/17 and he was 38/39
He's got a point man! As a black person, I don't mind racial humor if it's funny. Family Guy makes jokes about everyone all the time, and it's always funny.
***** well you're entitled to that opinion.
Tomisha Childs Hey I'm the same way. I remember this old cartoon where Bugs bunny out smarts a black hunter. Even looking back at it now I still find it funny despite being a black guy. Humor and Hate are two different things.
***** Bro don't say that, your voice matters too. XD I know you're only joking.
ThatGuy CalledPhil It's funny that you bring up that specific Bugs Bunny cartoon. It's part of what has become known as the Censored Eleven. Warner Bros. cartoons deemed politically incorrect and pulled from circulation, it includes animation landmarks like Bob Clampett's COAL BLACK AND THE SEBBIN DWARVES. I guess that it's a good thing when you can show a dumb white guy like Elmer Fudd hunting Bugs, but if you show a dumb black guy doing the exact same thing, it's a bad thing. Typical PC hypocrisy.
Jack Grattan Well, there's actually is a difference. With the "dumb black guy" thing that was part of a point that was commonly asserted to black people.
Elmer Fudd wasn't the same kind of dumb. With him it was just the simple irony of a hunter being outsmarted. Sure his personality is tad goofy but it adds his vulnerability to be tricked by Bugs.
With the Black guy he was portrayed as a sluggish, hardly gets a clue, and of course his Afro features were very pronounce in style in which it makes him look like a human but different.
Don't get me wrong, at the end of the day I find both hunters funny with a lot of creative consideration put in their episodes, but you really can't say that Elmer was as "one dimensional" as the black hunter.
It's not simply because he was dumb, it was the media "personality" he was associated with. This type of caricature represents a limited view on black people. While I won't say that none fit this description, it kinds of makes it hard others who don't fit to feel confidence in their community.
I'm not sore about it, but when you are an A student who happens to be African American you sure wouldn't want a bunch of assholes to associate this with you.
Thank God for Jerry! We need more people like him!
Brilliant conversation
I couldn't agree more with these guys. People these days are just racing to a place where everything is offensive and their opinions matter more than our freedoms and right to be human. It should be talked about more than it is because its an unhealthy place for this society to go.
Look at all these things that happen that are not that bad and yet peoples life's get destroyed over them because society has to be so politically correct all the time.
We need to change that culture fast because its tearing us all apart.
***** Not that you asked me. but, I believe it will go the way of every other form of media before it did. I.E Print, Radio,Film, Television, Internet. All these things began as a MASSIVE NEW, HUGE, amazing, impact, world changing whale of non sense. Employed by the various fringe factions of the day to "change" the world and propagandize. But, as these things are want to do. They are over saturated, over used, and become blase and impotent. Becoming nothing more than another example of lazy movement hype. At the end of the day the only thing thing that changes things is real actual people motivated and rallied around a cause. Tapping the like button on a phone doesn't actually do anything. Other than making that person feel relevant in that moment. Like most forms of media, social media, will just become another place where we go to look at naked people and to laugh at weird people.
***** it's the electric prison from which there is no escape.
It's just a fad... gonna go out of style just like Bell Bottoms did in the 70s........... u watch... mark my word.... :-)
Sorry mate, that horse has long since bolted. It's now become politicised. I'm a lifelong supporter of Socialism but am being called a fascist because I do not toe the line about what is considered funny.
@@stephenreeds3632 same.
4 or 5 years ago, someone on TW asked, "What were the Indians [their word] thinking during first Thanksgiving?"
my answer: "Ya know, if we feed them, they'll never leave."
the pile-on (by Indians) was HUGE.
my sin wasn't that it wasn't supporting Native Americans (or Indians).
my sin was making a joke. ANY joke.
my sin was that I am white ... and wasn't allowed to speak during their annual pain.
dozens of variations of: _* THEY they don't WANT or NEED "allies"*_
a few folks tried to say it was funny (bc it equates pilgrims to feral animals) but SCORES of posters piled on ... that I should shut up bc this was their moment of annual pain - NO ALLIES ALLOWED.
so yeah ... we're in a weird place.
NB: I'm a woman. I have right to vote bc of men - bc only men could vote for women to gain that right. (i.e., I still believe we all need allies)
p.s. at the time, I lived in a county that is 90% Indian. I worked in a hospital that is owned by a tribe.
i liked this whole episode. it felt loose, like they were all comfortable.
It was refreshing
PowerfulDragon It felt loose because Jerry is pretty loose. Seth on the other hand, always feels uptight and yuppyish
***** Seth is uptight. It was funny how Jerry made him cringe when Jerry mentioned the Jenner follies. Seth sounded so PC when talking about it. Maybe Seth should dump his wife (if he has one) and marry Jenner. It would be a very PC thing to do.
Chantey Mann Way to both attempt to appear to be concerned about closeted gays while simultaneously revealing you are obsessed about whether someone might be Jewish or not.
Yep, and that's what SJWs hate the most.
Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David
2 Comedy Geniuses! 😂❤
Seth Meyers "shushhing" Jerry very in conspicuously @ 3:08
Can't imagine how energetic Seinfeld must have been in his heydays. Being a comedian means you gotta perform so many times, come up with enough material that'll make people laugh, remembering your lines every time before a stand-up, then all the acting for the Seinfeld show...not just Seinfeld, other comedians too who've made millions too. Gotta respect the talent & work ethic of these people.
Most French kings were gay (old word for happy). Nothing offensive there.
What the hell are you talking about ?
Don't be a snake. If you use that meaning of the word gay, his joke doesn't work
Did Jerry call out Seth on his pc!! 😂
Yes he did. Even pointed directly at him over Jenner. Then belittled his BS excuse😂🤦🤣🤣😆😌
this was a good demonstration of the extremes of comedic talent.
Everyone is a fair target in comedy, regardless of race, political ideology, sexual identity. Anytime someone is offended, comics should push harder and hammer that subject even more.
But more importantly, the rest of society has to join in. We have to keep supporting those comics, keep making fun of everyone and everything. The people who are constantly screaming about political correctness need to be drowned out. They want control over what can be said and what can't. They need to met with firm resistance, every time.
InsideOutBH Are you saying that everyone has to join one side to silence another? Think there's a word for that.
InsideOutBH yes, stamp out their opinion on stamping out opinions!
@InsideOutBH You know I have always endorsed comedy even in the gravest of situations because comedy and laugh doesnt mean insensitivity. It means we can keep the sensitivity and emotions and still be able to laugh during hard times or any other time.
For nearly a decade I have believed that we have to learn to laugh at everything and at the same time correct our mistakes. A racial joke isnt racism until you discriminate. I make race jokes, but I dont discriminate. Any joke for that matter should take a jab at someone or something but at the same time inspire or encourage to be better. So..! But I have never seen someone put my thoughts out the way you wrote in the comment.
People who can't be made fun of are elevated above the rest of us.
Thing is, Jerry Seinfeld is in the business of expressing a viewpoint, but his business is somewhat reliant on the approval of an audience. I say somewhat because he's successful enough to be in a position to challenge the opinion of audiences. His displeasure with political correctness has to do with having to ascertain the shifting sensibilities of his audience, and being resentful of having to do the same task a beginning comedian has to do. He's flirting with claiming comedy mulligans, that he's above having to care about what his audience thinks. P.C. culture itself becomes some straw man for him to rail against, because mass opinions change. The joke doesn't connect, LIKE IT OUGHT TO. So, he takes a stand: P.C. culture has ruined the comedic field of what's in play. His success makes him an authority in the Funny, and he's flirting with using that authority to bring regressive modes of comedic targets back into favor. He once said that comedic targets should skewer the pretentious. Now, he flirts with pretentiousness. He wants to be beloved for being a jerk. Guess that's just the human condition.
Jerry Seinfeld doin the lords work
i didnt know this show had discussion like this on it. awesome
I fucking love how Jerry called Seth on his bullshit there at the end with the Caitlin Jenner thing. You can see Seth just squirming to get out of it, and can tell from Jerry's response to it that he knows how good he got him and doesn't need to push it any more. Savage without even the need to push the issue, bravo Jerry.
You should be able to joke about anything, that's why it's a joke and not a serious comment
The P.C. atmosphere permeating the west these days is frightenly Orwellian. So much "newspeak" and double-talk. The Orwellian nighmare is not just about govt surveillance and dystopia{that is one aspect of it or type of it}, but it also includes things of the same nature as political correction.
This is one of the most destructive forces against freethought and freedom of concience/beilief, free speech/opinion expression, individuality,it is a tool of comformism and authoritarianism{it in fact uses the authorities and authoritarianism to silence that which it arbitrarily and subjectively deems too 'offensive" or "out of the box"}. The fact that this Orwellian nighmare is being perpetrated on society mostly by those of then"left" and "progressives" and so on is especially iornic and frightening since those of these schools of socio-political thought tend to talk about how much they oppose Orwellian measures, attitudes, and trends. Yet they are willfully ironically, hypocritically Orwellian themselves. It also makes us more uptight as a society, where very little can be humorized without somebody taking 'offense" and and taking things too seriously, and we end up with not just authoritarian and herd enforced/coerced cesnorship{ant free-speech/etc} but also slf censorship, and everyone walks on eggshells..and we become a more miserbale society/world and eventually that will lead to us bing more easily controlled slaves of those in power.
To be fair, there have been right wing orwellian things. Both left and right play their own [arts and the right has it's own form of political correction too{that was very prominent for example after 9/11 and during the iraq war, "freedom fries" and banning songs and burning Dixie Chicks records, and so on for example}.
But TODAY, at this particular time in our recent history, the newspeak/etc orwellianism is allmost exclusively a leftist{mainly "progressivist" and very much enforced by the 3rd wave radical feminists especially}} phenonmeon. The fact that these same leftists and progressives don't see it is particuarly biazzerre and scary.
THaT's it! Now I know how to make 1984 accessible to my English class!!! Thank you!!!
Rijkaard
You need to provide an actual reasoned mature counter-argument rather than acting like a juvenile with ad hominem. Can you reason like an adult?
Rijkaard
..and..thank you for proving my point.
Will Baker Besides the spelling errors that was a really good point.
+Will Baker Very good points you made. Nineteen Eighty Four is my favorite book. Scary and quite sad to see that this is where our society is right now. How soon will we need to have secret meetings so we can express ourselves? It'll be like in Swing Kids.
Seth can't help but signal his PC bonafides at the end. "I thought that was a wonderful moment." Oh brother.
The guest besides Mr. Seinfeld is New York editor David Remnick
Google "political correctness" and the "Frankfurt School"
TheObamaFile I bet you're not a libtard. They will never understand what you are talking about and you know they won't look into what it's all about. They prefer ignorance over the truth.
TheObamaFile Google "hyperbole" and "Godwin's law"
Grey Winters Grey Winters I'm not. As far as ignorance over truth, read the comment from Mike V, above.
His comment has no relationship to what I posted whatsoever. but he just had to post it.
TheObamaFile You will find that political correctness was coined by reactionaries who were upset they couldn't openly be racist/sexist at the extreme vile levels which were acceptable prior to the 1960s. As for the Frankfurt school, you'll see it is a school of philosophy which serves as the bizarre inspirationfor a right-wing conspiracy theory.
***** You don't know what you're talking about! You haven't a clue. Typical Prog!
Ah. I miss the old days when comedians don't just expect people to like their jokes.
Well the oblivious answer to that is not to laugh or applaud, not chastise the comedian for offending you.
+astroblaster56
Freedom of speech goes both way.
+hereiam2005 who said anything about that?
+MCtrewp You people say "Overly sensitive " quite a lot do you even care of know the REAL defination of highly sensitive?
***** (of a person or a person's behavior) having or displaying a quick and delicate appreciation of others' feelings.
synonyms: tactful, careful, thoughtful, diplomatic, delicate, subtle, kid-glove; sympathetic, compassionate, understanding, intuitive, responsive, insightful.
Too bad im the only one in this comment section that knows the truth. Or only maybe 10% people know this
"Skrolling thru like a gay French King! EPIC! LOL
"But I would like to know what it was". Jerry is awesome!
Millenials are completely detached from reality.
I think we millennial are alot mire smarter then you think. The baby boomers started this PC nonsense and pushed it off on us.
I am a Millenial myself and the way I see it, it has to do with helicopter parenting. I never said millenials are dumb, just detached.
+Ryodakun I can agree with you there, millenials are very detached from reality.
+Ryodakun Judging entire groups of people like that to all be the same is a big part of the problem in general as well...
+cosmokramer1987 "a lot mire smarter then you think" You summed it up pretty well, hahaha.
"This is how far the termites have spread, and how well they have dined"
- Christopher Hitchens
I just became a Seinfeld fan.
It’s very telling that everyone is offended by the simplest things. I was often offended growing up and I survived. What is the BIG DEAL? Being offended shows how incredibly fragile your ego, and self esteem really are. It’s sad when we can’t laugh at ourselves without getting so uptight….you give the speaker so much power….
I didn't laugh at that joke because it isn't funny, not that it's offensive.
Austin Bishop he wasn't mad that they didn't laugh, he was mad that they "ooooooooed" at it like mindless pc drones.
Austin Bishop That wasn't a joke, it was a debate about a subject.
In0chi No, the gay king joke has been something he's been doing for years, and it's personally something I've never found funny. Is it offensive? Not to me, but it just isn't my kind of humor.
Austin Bishop what do you mean observation humor is what jerry does and that was observation humor. What is your "kind of humor" ?
lithium2370 Many different kinds of humor make me laugh, including observation humor, just not a fan of many of his jokes. Not all observation humor is the same.
10/10 for you making that statement Jerry
Love Seth for everything after 3:28!!!
I love how he's checking them to make sure they didn't cave in or they're going to be the next joke. He's a leader of comedy.
The first amendment trumps PC 100% of the time.
***** omg are you serious???
Love the way Jerry keeps others accountable
John Cleese once said (quoting renowned psychiatrist Robin Skynner), "When people can't control their emotions, they resort to trying to control other peoples' behavior." Cleese was talking about political correctness, and how some people would rather restrict what other people say instead of restricting how they themselves react to it. Cleese pointed out that political correctness can't coexist with comedy because, in his words, "All humor is critical."
Reading all the comments here and I'm like "There's Hope!" :)
Apologies literally do _nothing_. NEVER apologize for "offending" someone.
As someone below stated, Jerry Seinfeld is one of the cleanest comics out there. He's also one of the funniest. Sort of what comedians do.
it's like watching the Seinfeld show with Jerry's hilarious delivery: "Iiiiiiiii would like to see it!"
South Park have been tearing into Caitlyn Jenner recently, it's amazing. Buckle up Buckaroos!
In my university, we can get in trouble for saying the words "dude" and "guys". Political correctness has seriously gone too far
man, I'd love to be in your university just so I could piss off those snowflakes and get in trouble for no valid reason whatsoever.
for real? bruuuuuuuutal
"Trouble" meaning what, though? One or two people reacting with irritation?
You own a university?
Seth Myers is part of the exact group Seinfeld is complaining about.
And he called him out to his face on his own show. Fucking monster.
Me too. I actually didn't expect these sort of views from Seinfeld. I finally found something about the guy I like.
Thank you, Jerry Seinfeld for speaking out. Sheesh, we've all lost our minds.
Did you hear about the new pirate movie? It's rated ARRRRR.
I apologize to all pirates I may have offended.
Jack Grattan If they can find time between pillaging and plundering to get offended.
a clean comic a nice relief
Patrice Oneal once summarizes comedy like so:
"True comedy is half the crowd is laughing, and the other half is horrified."
Hey,have you heard about the new Mexican war move?
Yeah,it's titled: Tacolips Now!
Jerry Seinfeld says people get offended too easily, people are offended by that statement.
"gay french king"... *:D THAT'S GOLD JERRY...GOLD!*
For that New Yorker bloke to state "there is a line" is the death of that magazine.
People that get offended cant control there emotions
GnarlyBroMr
Does political correctness offend you?
It doesn't matter what offends me. To hell with pc
GnarlyBroMr
Seems like there's no need for discussion then.
GnarlyBroMr So political correctness* offends you? Now that is ironic.
*)formerly known as common courtesy before drunk barbarian mantards got internet access.
It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what.
The pc/af/sjw critics of comedy are choking youtube like smoke in a housefire.
potter j you think house fires are funny?
They always choke something, that's their way of life.
Gay French king... gotta love Seinfeld.
7 years later and things have gotten so much worse
Seinfeld pointing this out makes me love him even more.