The Number 5 Bus from Woolton to Liverpool City Centre. A look at John Lennons lyrics and the places he remembers. The Beatles song In My Life off the Rubber Soul Album.
Those are places I also remember Jeff...I too was born in Sefton General Hospital...way back in 1949, I lived with my mum in her eldest sisters house on Liffey Street...so I do remember bus rides to Penny Lane, and Wavertree road shops, and into Liverpool many times before Mum and me "emigrated" to a flat in Kirkby when I was 7 in 1956 to start a new chapter "IN MY LIFE"...thanks for sparking the memories Jeff...I always enjoy your videos...👍🏻
Hi Jeff, that was a nice memory. I became a bus conductor in 1965 when I turned 18yrs. Worked at Penny Lane bus depot for 12 months before leaving Liverpool to travel in Norway for a couple of years. When I returned to Liverpool late in 1967 I went back to Penny Lane bus depot as a conductor then later as a driver. The no. 5 was my favourite rout to work on. probably the nicest rout at the depot. A different time back then. Love your videos.
Great journey from my childhood. I remember the starting point at Hunts Cross Avenue and Rosefield Rd. In fact I can remember the nursery where the flowers grew at Rose field before the housing. At the end of Manor Road was my red telephone box which was my teenage communication center now removed but not forgotten. Jeff very nice, thanks for the memories.
Hi Jeff.... Very poignant video for me this one as my favourite Beatles tune is "In my life". Coincidentally, you pass en route my old places of work.... The Sydney Jones Library and the Harold Cohen Medical Library which I worked as a Librarian in for 28 years before my retirement on ill health Grounds in December 2023. Truly they are both places in my life that I'll remember! 😊 Thanks for another interesting and informative video 👍🏼 Simon D.
Brilliant video Jeff - very nostalgic for me. Even though so much has changed since I lived off Smithdown Road, and though I've lived away from Liverpool since for nearly 40 years, enough of it remains. Our house, on Fallowfield Road, backed onto the bus sheds you talked about. We too moved from there in 1960. My Grandparents lived on Woolton Road near to the woods (still there) on the corner of Woolton Road and Wood View Road. This, I think, was on the No. 73 route. I was also fascinated by Liverpool buses. My favourite bus ride was the No. 80 which went from Speke down Brodie Avenue, onto Rose Lane and then Allerton Road, Smithdown Road, Ullet Road ..etc and then into 'Town'. Great memories and best wishes.
@@johnburns4017Prescot-Whiston-Huyton Village-Bowering Park-Rocket -Childwall Fiveways-Abbey Cinema-onto Picton Road and got off right outside the college building (Technical Institute) about 200 metres before Wellington Road and Rathbone Road. I've not been back since but I don't imagine much has changed.
Thank you for sharing this very nice bus ride. I’ll have to pay you for the fare the next time my wife and I visit the area. I’m watching from Huntsville, Alabama in the USA.😊
Hi Jeff, l still like to go on the upstairs on the front seats and remember the old buses where you would stand holding a pole with no doors on how crazy is that no health and safety then,and a inspector always seem to get on,l still got somewhere a old bus ticket with a man on it do you remember the old tickets machines great video 👍
Yeah, I remember the ticket machines, fascinating as a kid. Health and Safety hadn't been invented then. People used to get off the back while the bus was doing about 10 mph 😆
Hahaha...yeah me and me mate would run like greyhounds to catch the 19a on the East lancs Road from Kirkby to get to Goodison Park back in the 60's...grab the bar and just about get on!...great memories Jeff...thanks..👍🏻
Jeff, As always a very good video bringing back many memories. Hunts Cross Avenue has never changed, with the exception of the speed humps. Always been bumpy. I have not been to Woolton for many years. The coach and horses was never my local although I knew Tommy Rattigan, the manager well. My local was the English Rose.
At 19.56 - on loan John Lennon ‘peace statue’ (Artist Laura Lian). Recently vandalised - rumours that Paul McCarthy was seen in the area have been denied by his agents.
Wow, that a great video and brings back so many memories. I was happy to leave in 1964 when it didn't look like there was much of a future there. However, the heart keeps pulling me back and I can see how so many things have stayed the same and yet so many things have changed. So interesting to see the "road not taken" and think of what might have been. Always grateful for your videos. Thanks for posting this.
I think we all do that, make a decision and then wonder what would have happened if we had followed a different path. Pleased you like the videos, comments like this make me feel they're worth making.
Amazing slice of my youth. Born in sefton general as my house was only over the road at 41 tunstall street. smithdown road. Moved to Halewood and my go to Buses to town were the 78 and 72. Great video man.
What a lovely nostalgic journey Jeff. I lived in Patmos Street Everton until 1955 then moving to Speke twi homes I loved dearly. So I remember the 50s buses very well às in those days not many people owned cars. My dad worked on the trams when my brother and I were small before he went to work in Clarence Dock power station. We went into town with mum and sometimes gran as well shopping and getting off at Lewis's just as you did. We also went into town with mum and dad to the big cinemas. Dad took us to the Tatler abd News Theatre often to see the cartoons with q tub of ice cream and a bag of fudge before getting the 82c or the 500 home to Speke. But I also remember sometimes catching the no 5 in Upper Parliament Street after school at my secondary school the girls institute in Blackburn Place to go into town with my friends to get a bag of sweets from St John's Market or on 2 occasions we went to Lewis's where they were promoting Lumar Yo yo's and showing us how to use them. We all went back next day to buy one eàch. I also caught no 5 bus to grans house for tea now and again where my mum nd brother would meet me to take us home later on. My mum lived in Wavertree as a child so probably got the no 4 and 5 buses too. She took us to the Mystery one day as children to show us where she too played as a child. Such happy memories. Thank you Jeff.
Wavertree road had lots of shops in the sixties , and a ten pin too . My auntie didn't bother going any further into town unless a Department store was necessary .
The white building on the corner was built by a housing association to match the rest of the block in 83/84 I reckon. Took ages. Heseltine crumbs from the Tory breadboard. Probably all private now. 😢
Wonderful video. Thanks! Is this Yank's memory correct from the early '80s that you would catch the Number 12 bus from Tithebarn St. to Fazakerley and Walton?
I liked your video very much just to be able to see the changes that's happening, I hope you know you took the route of the murder mile once you got past Smithdown General, hard to believe the area has a bad history as well has some famous people. You lived in Holmes St, and a champion boxer lived at the bottom in Longfellow St who everyone knew by name. You had the Cameo murder on Webster Rd and the Cranborne Rd murder both opposite the cemetary , towards the Boundry you had the Yamworth St murder not to mention others. The roads everywhere are now shameful and speed bumps didn't help the situation, Menlove Av used to be a smooth road, my wife used it to get speed up when she did her advanced driving course with Victor Horsman the rally driver. Good job you got suspension lol
@ 26.12. Sefton General - was Smithdown Road Workhouse, a place of unspeakable suffering. ASDA now stands on the site, and was, until the 2010s, using DWP ‘workfare’ employees (forced labour really) some things never change. (Sorry for making so many comments.)
Excellent video ,very informative and entertaining.However I have to take issue with the final part of the journey. I lived off Brownlow Hill in the seventies and attended SFX college in Woolton. Of a morning I used to get the number 78 bus in Brownlow Hill and get off at the bus stop near Black Wood on Woolton road. However if I happened to miss the 78 bus I used to run along Clarence street to catch the Number 5 bus coming up Mount Pleasant and alight the bus on Menlove Avenue then walk up Beaconsfield road. I seem to also remember that the number 4 Woolton bus went up London Road.
Maybe it changed in the 70's. The route out was different in the 60s. The 5 would turn around Blacklers and up to Lime Street. I'm sure it went up Browlow Hill in those days. But it's memory and it fades a bit. The 4 went up London Road, Wavertree Road and turned towards Penny Lane at The Abbey then down Menlove.
While not a fan of Mrs. Thatcher (ok, I hated her) have to agree with her on her proclamation that ‘any man using public transport after the age of 30, is a failure’ - haven’t used buses in 40 years, horrible things, no wonder that the drivers now sit behind bullet-proof cages. Great video, Jeff (PS - should your title not read ‘There are ‘places’ I remember’, not ‘paces’?).
Thanks, I'll amend the title... a senior moment. Strange now that they want cars off the road and make us use buses. Going to need a lot more buses soon.
I've never heard myself until I started making these videos. I moved away in the 1980's and lived in different countries for a while. Depends if I say Duck, Chicken or Batteries in a sentence 🤔
@@Jeff1photo He sounds like a scouser to me . Jeff ,I used to live in Myrtle House when I was a kid in the 1970's , I think Crown St was nearby. Used to go to St Saviour's school, is the school still there ?
Those are places I also remember Jeff...I too was born in Sefton General Hospital...way back in 1949, I lived with my mum in her eldest sisters house on Liffey Street...so I do remember bus rides to Penny Lane, and Wavertree road shops, and into Liverpool many times before Mum and me "emigrated" to a flat in Kirkby when I was 7 in 1956 to start a new chapter "IN MY LIFE"...thanks for sparking the memories Jeff...I always enjoy your videos...👍🏻
I was a driver on the 4-5 from 1954 till 1986 when deregulation came in
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Hi Jeff, that was a nice memory. I became a bus conductor in 1965 when I turned 18yrs. Worked at Penny Lane bus depot for 12 months before leaving Liverpool to travel in Norway for a couple of years. When I returned to Liverpool late in 1967 I went back to Penny Lane bus depot as a conductor then later as a driver. The no. 5 was my favourite rout to work on. probably the nicest rout at the depot. A different time back then. Love your videos.
Thanks very much, great memories 😊
Great journey from my childhood. I remember the starting point at Hunts Cross Avenue and Rosefield Rd. In fact I can remember the nursery where the flowers grew at Rose field before the housing. At the end of Manor Road was my red telephone box which was my teenage communication center now removed but not forgotten. Jeff very nice, thanks for the memories.
I've just remembered the grief the inspector would get if he worked at night. All the Blakey impressions.
That was probably me 😅
Possibly the Old Dutch cafe in Smithdown Road the sails of windmill can still be seen above shop front. Lhside outward to city before the Mystery.
Hi Jeff.... Very poignant video for me this one as my favourite Beatles tune is "In my life".
Coincidentally, you pass en route my old places of work.... The Sydney Jones Library and the Harold Cohen Medical Library which I worked as a Librarian in for 28 years before my retirement on ill health Grounds in December 2023. Truly they are both places in my life that I'll remember! 😊
Thanks for another interesting and informative video 👍🏼 Simon D.
Wow!
Brilliant video Jeff - very nostalgic for me. Even though so much has changed since I lived off Smithdown Road, and though I've lived away from Liverpool since for nearly 40 years, enough of it remains.
Our house, on Fallowfield Road, backed onto the bus sheds you talked about. We too moved from there in 1960. My Grandparents lived on Woolton Road near to the woods (still there) on the corner of Woolton Road and Wood View Road. This, I think, was on the No. 73 route.
I was also fascinated by Liverpool buses. My favourite bus ride was the No. 80 which went from Speke down Brodie Avenue, onto Rose Lane and then Allerton Road, Smithdown Road, Ullet Road ..etc and then into 'Town'. Great memories and best wishes.
Thanks very much, pleased you enjoyed it. Yes the 73 would have passed there as you say.
I used to get the Crosville H8 from Prescot to Picton Road every Thursday during my apprenticeship in the early seventies. Wow, the memories 👍
That was the limited stop bus, I called it the fast bus into town, and they was comfy inside
What route?
@@johnburns4017Prescot-Whiston-Huyton Village-Bowering Park-Rocket -Childwall Fiveways-Abbey Cinema-onto Picton Road and got off right outside the college building (Technical Institute) about 200 metres before Wellington Road and Rathbone Road. I've not been back since but I don't imagine much has changed.
@@NormanLongYes, much like MPTE 510 from Prescot into the city centre which was known as the express! 😂
The 500 from Kirby to Speke was the same, The slowest I would say was the 60 from Aigburth to the Strand@@steddie4514
Thank you for sharing this very nice bus ride. I’ll have to pay you for the fare the next time my wife and I visit the area. I’m watching from Huntsville, Alabama in the USA.😊
I have you ticket ready 😊
Ticket to Ride!
Brilliant Jeff as always loved that
Thank you 😊
Hi Jeff, l still like to go on the upstairs on the front seats and remember the old buses where you would stand holding a pole with no doors on how crazy is that no health and safety then,and a inspector always seem to get on,l still got somewhere a old bus ticket with a man on it do you remember the old tickets machines great video 👍
Yeah, I remember the ticket machines, fascinating as a kid. Health and Safety hadn't been invented then. People used to get off the back while the bus was doing about 10 mph 😆
Hahaha...yeah me and me mate would run like greyhounds to catch the 19a on the East lancs Road from Kirkby to get to Goodison Park back in the 60's...grab the bar and just about get on!...great memories Jeff...thanks..👍🏻
Jeff, As always a very good video bringing back many memories. Hunts Cross Avenue has never changed, with the exception of the speed humps. Always been bumpy. I have not been to Woolton for many years. The coach and horses was never my local although I knew Tommy Rattigan, the manager well. My local was the English Rose.
Thanks very much, those speed bumps are a killer.
At 19.56 - on loan John Lennon ‘peace statue’ (Artist Laura Lian). Recently vandalised - rumours that Paul McCarthy was seen in the area have been denied by his agents.
Did a video on the Statue too 😆 McCartneys not got a statue of his own he's jealous 😉
Billy wouldn't know his way around without a tour guide.
Wow, that a great video and brings back so many memories. I was happy to leave in 1964 when it didn't look like there was much of a future there. However, the heart keeps pulling me back and I can see how so many things have stayed the same and yet so many things have changed. So interesting to see the "road not taken" and think of what might have been. Always grateful for your videos. Thanks for posting this.
I think we all do that, make a decision and then wonder what would have happened if we had followed a different path.
Pleased you like the videos, comments like this make me feel they're worth making.
Same here. Left in 85. Still feel more than nostalgia.
Amazing slice of my youth. Born in sefton general as my house was only over the road at 41 tunstall street. smithdown road. Moved to Halewood and my go to Buses to town were the 78 and 72. Great video man.
78 was a good trip, I'd get that to school in Gateacre sometimes and home again.
Remember the 72.......through Hunts Cross......past Camp Hill...on to Menlove.....
What a lovely nostalgic journey Jeff. I lived in Patmos Street Everton until 1955 then moving to Speke twi homes I loved dearly. So I remember the 50s buses very well às in those days not many people owned cars. My dad worked on the trams when my brother and I were small before he went to work in Clarence Dock power station. We went into town with mum and sometimes gran as well shopping and getting off at Lewis's just as you did. We also went into town with mum and dad to the big cinemas. Dad took us to the Tatler abd News Theatre often to see the cartoons with q tub of ice cream and a bag of fudge before getting the 82c or the 500 home to Speke. But I also remember sometimes catching the no 5 in Upper Parliament Street after school at my secondary school the girls institute in Blackburn Place to go into town with my friends to get a bag of sweets from St John's Market or on 2 occasions we went to Lewis's where they were promoting Lumar Yo yo's and showing us how to use them. We all went back next day to buy one eàch. I also caught no 5 bus to grans house for tea now and again where my mum nd brother would meet me to take us home later on. My mum lived in Wavertree as a child so probably got the no 4 and 5 buses too. She took us to the Mystery one day as children to show us where she too played as a child. Such happy memories. Thank you Jeff.
Thank you, pleased you enjoyed it. I used to got to the Tatler too sometimes with my Dad on a Saturday morning. Cartoons and Pathe News films.
Happy days. The Tatler was a treat with my Aunty Audrey. Ended up as a porno cinema in 80s
Wavertree road had lots of shops in the sixties , and a ten pin too . My auntie didn't bother going any further into town unless a Department store was necessary .
It did, it was a great shopping area.
The white building on the corner was built by a housing association to match the rest of the block in 83/84 I reckon. Took ages. Heseltine crumbs from the Tory breadboard. Probably all private now. 😢
Wonderful video. Thanks! Is this Yank's memory correct from the early '80s that you would catch the Number 12 bus from Tithebarn St. to Fazakerley and Walton?
Can't help with that one, sorry. Maybe someone will.
I liked your video very much just to be able to see the changes that's happening, I hope you know you took the route of the murder mile once you got past Smithdown General, hard to believe the area has a bad history as well has some famous people.
You lived in Holmes St, and a champion boxer lived at the bottom in Longfellow St who everyone knew by name. You had the Cameo murder on Webster Rd and the Cranborne Rd murder both opposite the cemetary , towards the Boundry you had the Yamworth St murder not to mention others.
The roads everywhere are now shameful and speed bumps didn't help the situation, Menlove Av used to be a smooth road, my wife used it to get speed up when she did her advanced driving course with Victor Horsman the rally driver.
Good job you got suspension lol
Non of these murders were anything to do with me, officer. I was somewhere else at the time.
Suspension? It's firm. I think that's the term used.
@ 26.12. Sefton General - was Smithdown Road Workhouse, a place of unspeakable suffering. ASDA now stands on the site, and was, until the 2010s, using DWP ‘workfare’ employees (forced labour really) some things never change.
(Sorry for making so many comments.)
I did a video on it. I mentioned the workhouse. I didn't know about what Asda did, but Asda is a crap company anyway, best avoided.
Excellent video ,very informative and entertaining.However I have to take issue with the final part of the journey.
I lived off Brownlow Hill in the seventies and attended SFX college in Woolton.
Of a morning I used to get the number 78 bus in Brownlow Hill and get off at the bus stop near Black Wood on Woolton road.
However if I happened to miss the 78 bus I used to run along Clarence street to catch the Number 5 bus coming up Mount Pleasant and alight the bus on Menlove Avenue then walk up Beaconsfield road.
I seem to also remember that the number 4 Woolton bus went up London Road.
The 5 came up Mt pleasant outwards in the 70s, but can't remember if it went in that way. Lord how it's all changed though. The 4 used London Rd, yes.
I was in SFX 1971-1976.
@@strawberryfields1149It certainly did come back into town coming back down Mount Pleasant. Used this route loads of times to and from school
@thaiduncan1 Was there between 1973-1978,Great days,didn't think so at the time though 😂
Maybe it changed in the 70's. The route out was different in the 60s. The 5 would turn around Blacklers and up to Lime Street. I'm sure it went up Browlow Hill in those days. But it's memory and it fades a bit.
The 4 went up London Road, Wavertree Road and turned towards Penny Lane at The Abbey then down Menlove.
I remember the 4 and 5 leaving from the Victoria statue, then later Paradise st bus station. The 72 would have been the Pier Head, also 73,78,80, 86?
I know the 73 and 78 were at the Pier Head. Don't know about the others.
The number 5 did not go down Brownlow Hill but went up and down Mount Pleasant great video though
I remember it going down Brownlow Hill is this a false memory? There's a few who say the same as you.
@@Jeff1photo Mount Pleasant Jeff
They still use those 1960s busses in Mumbai India.
Awesome, they were brilliant.
So the terminus for the 4&5 was at the top (coming up from Mackets) of Rosefield Rd??
Yes in the 60's
Hello Jeff, do you remember the Lancashire United and Ribble buses that used to terminate at Lime Street?
Yes I do. Got on one to Blackpool once. Took hours!
It was Skelhorn St I think. They used the older buses, ex MPTE I suppose. Took forever you're right. Crossville green. Ribble were Claret.
Skelhorn Street bus station now student flats. Ribble and Lancashire United buses I think. Both red, or claret 🤔
@@Jeff1photo Bus nerds
I know, sad innit 😆
Wrong bus inspectors was 2000
Thanks, I knew there would be something wrong.
While not a fan of Mrs. Thatcher (ok, I hated her) have to agree with her on her proclamation that ‘any man using public transport after the age of 30, is a failure’ - haven’t used buses in 40 years, horrible things, no wonder that the drivers now sit behind bullet-proof cages.
Great video, Jeff (PS - should your title not read ‘There are ‘places’ I remember’, not ‘paces’?).
Thanks, I'll amend the title... a senior moment. Strange now that they want cars off the road and make us use buses. Going to need a lot more buses soon.
How is it you do not have a Liverpool accent?
I've never heard myself until I started making these videos. I moved away in the 1980's and lived in different countries for a while. Depends if I say Duck, Chicken or Batteries in a sentence 🤔
Sounds like everyone I grew up with. 🤔
@@Jeff1photo He sounds like a scouser to me . Jeff ,I used to live in Myrtle House when I was a kid in the 1970's , I think Crown St was nearby. Used to go to St Saviour's school, is the school still there ?
Hi, no it's gone. I think it was demolished in the late 80's early 90's