How to make your own Sandboard!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- In this DIY tute, I show you how to build your own sandboard, a snowboard for sand dunes! This includes fundamental skills like bending plywood @2:04 (if you cant be bothered to laminate your own) and applying formica to timber! @4:17
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Wooo 10000 views! Thanks guys! Good to see people are interested in getting out on the dunes!
I bought the bindings and footpads for this board from Venomous Sandboards over in the US, however on another board I have used ones from Ocean Culture in SA and they have worked well.
On my latest board I have bolted on some kids snowboard bindings (so they don't need a boot) that I picked up for $50 brand new, haven't tested these yet on dunes but they feel pretty solid and are quite cost effective. Rigidity and heel hold is very important!
Originally, I was getting formica off a friend who was a carpenter/cabinetmaker, as I couldn't find it in any bunnings stores. Now I get it off Bills Boards, which is a plywood supply store. Ive seen it also on ebay, search also for the brand name Laminex. It can be difficult to source, but I assure you it is the best all round base material and adds strength to your board.
One of my dreams is to be build a sandboard wish me good luck!
Update: I just finished making my first own sandboard my dream came true!😱
It's been 6 months and I made it
Congrats man!! cheers for that, i think i will try too
@@luciosegovia9490 thanks man good luck notice me!
I haven't tried it on water, I imagine it would work (I have wakeboarded on stranger objects haha) but you would need to waterproof it with a layer of resin or lacquer on the top surfaces. Thanks for the compliments!
One 12mm thick sheet of ply, if you were going to use thinner sheets I would glue them already in the correct shape using a mould/press
Thanks for watching!
I'm actually based in Australia, I have heard there are some great dunes in Oregon though! Much more vegetated than most of the ones here so way more natural lips to hit! With good paint skills you should be able to make some really cool looking boards,just remember that the paint will soak in very quickly into untreated timber,so if you want to make some nice graphics you probably should treat your top deck with varnish, resin or similar before painting.
Good luck and let me know how it goes!
I am totally making one right now!!!!!!!
How was the results?
Hi there, you can use any type of plywood you want, however I would recommend that you use structural ply as a minimum to make the board as strong as possible. Marine ply is good for this application as it is more resistant to the bends creeping down over time.
Hope that helps!
P.S. I'd hardly worry about your English, seems fine to me! :)
The length of a short-ish board is 1.2-1.3m, with a width of about 0.2m at the waist at 0.25m at the tip, although these numbers change dramatically depending on the riding style and purpose of the board. In softer sand, longer and wider boards work better, for long dunes a longer but narrower board with thicker timber is better for high speed riding. My boards have varied between 1m and 1.6m, and I have made skis almost 2m long. 12mm ply is my general board material, but you can vary that.
Also, the less angle is in each bend, the less drag the board has and the faster it goes, so if you have a tip rise of say 40mm on a board with 3 bends it will be faster than a board with a tip rise of 40mm and one bend
hmm having never tested it on the snow I cant give you a definite answer, however I am certain it will work on snow, just not quite as well as a snowboard. The flex of a full size one is very similar and with snowboard bindings on the handling is very similar. The base would be the main difference, as formica does not retain wax well, however it is much smoother than P-TEX so it probably will work. Also not having steel edges may mean you want to keep it in powder and off ice!
Hope that helps!
Snowboard bindings give a lot more control, so are what I am using on my latest board. I didn't want to wear boots as they are annoying to walk through sand in, so I used kids bindings and just strapped in wearing shoes (I have a size 13-14US foot) Both bindings and straps will give you control, it just is a question of
A)Whats your riding style - surfing/snowboarding/skating
B)How easy do you want your hiking/strapping in process to be
I think given you already have a snowboard, use bindings
Contact adhesive is used to join the two, the yellow bucket is filled with water and is a plastic bucket. The board itself is plywood.
Thanks! I remember first sandboarding as a teen in California around 1978. We must have been among the first to try it. As a recently retired engineer, I decided to try it again and purchased a sandboard. I am very disappointed with what I got. Even on very steep dunes, it hardly moves, even when waxed. I will definitely try building my own.
To cut the formica, get a sharp knife and put a few scores in the soft side, then you can usually bend it and it will crack clean. For final trimming I usually use a jigsaw with a fine blade. My plywood is 12mm (roughly 1/2inch) spruce or pine, haven't tried birch, I assume it will be a bit harder to get the bend right as its a stiffer and less creep prone timber, so maybe let it soak and bend a bit longer. Should give a good board when done I would think.
Let me know how it goes!
Yeah!!! Very cool!! I'm about to hit the Dunes down in Monata de Oro State Park here in Los Osos, CA. I use a old first Gen Sim snowboard. This would be a great alternative. I also didn't realize they had bindings for sand boards as well. Time to go shopping and building!! Thanks!
Hi,
If its fairly short (around 140ish) it should make an excellent sandboard, mainly on sand you want a shorter board then you have on snow as its a bit harder to carve. Just remember that adding formica to the base will make the board a bit stiffer, although shouldn't be a problem on a kids board.
I used straps on this board as they are very quick and easy to get in and out of, I actually used this board to walk/board the length of stockton beach (around 24km through dunes)
Cont. below
For the tip curve I used some simple screw clamps (seen around the 3:00 mark), you should be able to find these at any hardware store, and they will come in handy for quite a few things. If you don't want to buy clamps, you can hang weights off the end of the tip and this should achieve a similar effect. For example, when I put rocker in my boards, I do it by placing the tips of the boards on two tables and putting a heavy weight like a car battery in the centre, then leaving it for a few days.
sand is mainly quartz which is a piezoelectric material(a material that generates electricity from pressure or vibration) I wonder if there was a way to exploit that so that the board would throw off sparks during the ride, that would look so cool particularly at twilight.
As a base material or a board material? Havent tried it, but in my experience with perspex and sandboard bases, perspex will be too soft, as it will wear quickly and slow you down. As a board material, it will not be strong enough unless it is really thick = heavy. If you cant get formica, sand the bottom of your timber with fine sandpaper, then lightly how wax it as you would a snowboard, this will generally work decently well, and is faster than non-broken-in formica.
Hope that helps!
Hmmm I get mine either from my local cabinet maker or a plywood supply store near my house, not sure where to look in Germany, maybe on ebay you might find something? It took me a while to source it at first, you may just have to ask around until you get a lead...
Thanks for watching!
Hi there,
I had this problem a lot when I started developing my bending process, there are a few techniques that you can use to improve the bend:
1. Screw down the bend clamps harder, as hard as physically possible, the wood will make a few little creaks but will not break
2, Make sure the board is clamped down properly on the end which is not free. If this end is bending up even a little it can cause a much weaker bend.
See next comment for a continuation
Te quedo increíble y explicaste excelente,muchas gracias amigo ,desde México
Hi there,
I have a router, but prefer to use the jigsaw as I feel more comfortable with the directional stability offered by the blade when performing long, sweeping cuts. With a fine tooth blade, the finish from both is very similar.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Rafael, couldn't work out how I was going to answer that one! My Spanish is not great.
Hi, I use 12mm marine or structural ply for all my boards, as it has reasonable flex and strength properties. For longer boards (excess of 1.6m), you will need thinker plywood (15mm should do) if you intend on taking jumps. If you don't want to jump, grind, or manual you can usually get away with thinner plywood. I have broken a 1.6m long 12mm thick board by taking a tail heavy landing off a jump, and I assure you it is not fun!
Hope that helps!
Awesome I will let you know how it goes. I did see some in a retail store so using there model and your technique. Thanks again Carolyn
Incredible channel
It's not really something I would do, I really just make boards for myself and my friends. May I suggest checking out the board manufacturers in the description, as they both make quality boards.
Thanks for watching!
I’m sorry what is the black sheet called? Trying to buy some to make my board. Thank you 😁
I actually said 120 cm, but yeah easy to see how you could have heard it as 127 m, that would be very hard to ride! =P You should easily be able to get 4 boards out of a 4'x8' sheet, you can probably squeeze 5-6 out if you do it right. Your reading is correct on the length, personally I wouldn't go less than 120cm unless you are very short, the sweet spot for a 6 foot person is around 130, go smaller for boarding between trees/shrubs and larger for open dunes.
Hope that helps!
Much Props to a woodworker in bear feet. That's laid back, yo.
A very nice looking sandboard. Though there's a better way to get the bend in the plywood. Instead of buying a single sheet of plywood, buy three separate sheets of very thin plywood (about 3 ply each.) With the first two sheets, glue them together on a flat bench with both ends raised on blocks at least 2 inches high (this will create the bend and the layers will be held together with glue.) Clamp the middle of course (just behind each block.) After the glue dries, remove the clamps and blocks and glue the third sheet on top of the other two and then replace the clamps / blocks at each end. Then cut out the shape afterwards.
I note that the bend you got from using the water method is a very slight curve and that can make the front of the board easily sink in some sandy terrain. There's also a tendency for wood to want to return to it's original shape. The bends on my sandboard are much higher (from glueing different sheets together) and are also permanent as well. It's more work involved (glueing sheets of ply together) but worth it in the long run. By the way, I recommend some kind of epoxy resin for the glue (very strong stuff.)
Thanks for the great video! I helped boost your numbers since I had to watch it about 25 times to build my board.
* On the big warm dunes here in Nevada the wax runs out before the dune does. Any suggestions here? I was thinking of ironing in a very hard base wax and then rubbing speed wax over the top, but perhaps the sand takes off any wax quickly.
You need to make us 3 of these for our trip to White Sands in the spring!
Hi, I get my formica from a local plywood supplier in a 0.8m x 1.8m (31in x 71in) sheet, 24in wide is a good width for the sheet (2 boards worth), however 48in long isn't ideal as it limits your max board length to around 48in, and depending on your size/riding style you may want to go longer. Not the end of the world, but if you can find a longer sheet, I would go for that.
Thanks for watching!
Make sure the board sits flat and flush against what it is resting on at this point, then you will ensure a good bend.
3.Leave the bend for longer. If the bend is creeping back, not all the water may have escaped the wood, in this case it is most likely safer to leave the bend for 2 days rather than one, or even more it you have time.
4.Heat the bend using a hairdryer. Sometimes this works, sometimes this doesnt, so try it out and see what happens.
Hope that helps and let me know how it goes!
Nice work!
Sorry for the late reply, this must have slipped past. You can use your snowboard as is and you will have very good edge hold on hard sand, but the sharp steel edges do slow you down more than a softer timber or formica edge as they dig in more. Your bigger problem is base material - p-tex is not great on sand compared to formica. If your dunes are steep enough, a regular snowboard will work fine!
Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
Ok those are the clamps that I use for the bending process at 2:40, I would highly recommend that you go out and buy some as they are not very expensive and quite useful, however if this is not an option you can use some heavy weights to bend the board, such as a car battery. By placing the board on a block of timber and putting weights on either side, you will get a bend, but you may have to leave it for longer.
Hope that helps!
Thaks for everything since you pu that i already did my board
Hello Kyle, I know you did this video a while ago but i was just wondering the width and length of the plywood in order to build the sandboard. Cheers!
Hi, the link for the straps is the venomous boards one in the description, however after using this board I have to say I prefer the ocean culture straps as they are more rigid and responsive (link also in the description).
Thanks for watching!
nice way of bending! thanks a lot for the video!!!
You're sooo cute! I wish you lived in PA so you could come to lowes with me to get materials!
Hola Angelica, los materiales que usa son una pieza de plywood de 12 mm de grosor y 1.3 metros de largo y 0.3 m de ancho. Una pieza de formica (la parte lisa) del mismo tamaño, luego solo haces lo que esta en el video, al final spray, y adesivo. Espero te sirva.
I've got all of the materials set to build my own board this weekend, only question I have is how many mm is the curve?
Thanks man, I'll try out both sets of bindings and see how it goes, 24km?! sounds bloody awesome
Hi there, the material I put on the bottom is a laminate sheet commonly known as formica or laminex (brand names). It is often used by cabinetry makers as a facing sheet over an mdf or particle board sheet, commonly in kitchens. You will either find it at your local hardware store, or a local cabinet maker, who may be able to buy in sheets for you or sell you cheap offcuts. Just be sure that you are getting just the laminate sheet and not the attached particle board!
The reason I ask, this technique could be magic for my snowboard build plan, just making a simple plywood board, painting graphics on and then weather coating.
Yes I have bolted shoes on, you actually end up with less control than straps as good straps are far more rigid than a shoe, and when you fit them you try to make them as tight on your feet as possible. Also, shoes are difficult to attach effectively and take longer to put on when your on the dunes (as you have to re tie the laces every time to ensure good control). If you are really after the best control, get kids snowboard bindings and wear shoes that strap into those!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks! Are you using formica for your base or running a raw timber base? If you are using formica for the base ironing the wax in will not help as the formica is non-porous, however a timber base will respond to waxing it with your iron set at a fairly high temperature, just make sure you give it a very good scrape!
May I suggest a change in wax? I personally run red hot nugs from Dr Dune on hot days, and they hold to the base long enough for a few runs.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the vid mate. I made one and it works great! :D
Hi there, the materials are listed near the start of the video, however if you wanted a written list, these are the main ones; A sheet of plywood, 12mm thick, around 1.3m long and 0.3m wide, a sheet of formica of the same size, some form of sandboard bindings (find/buy/make your own), spray paint, and contact adhesive. Tools you need will be clamps, weights, a jigsaw, and a bucket to put water in. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
best way to get formica is from an old glossy countertop. they are very cheap and it's the right stuff. made a board a while back and it cracked in a heartbeat, the negative camber was way too much, should've left it flat.
As in a "How to Sandboard" video? Or a sandboard riding video clip edit?
🤙🏽 this is dope!
Sure thing, the straps I used on this particular board were from Venomous Sandboards, however I personally prefer the ones from Ocean Culture as they have sharper response at a still reasonable price. Both links are now in the description. On my latest board I run kids snowboard bindings so that I can strap in without a snowboard boot, but still get a high level of control.
Hope that helps!
Hey, amazing video! I am in the middle of making the board and I was trying to buy bindings from Venomous Boards link, but it does not let you checkout and I was not able to get through by phone either. Any suggestions for a US outlet? Thanks!
Thanks, I'll try the red hot nugs (formica base). Maybe there's a better base surface altogether? - perhaps whatever this "race base" is made from.
I'm actually looking how to get someone to make a sand board with wheels, for me. At the back of my place is miles of mudflats or salt marsh. I've always wanted to windsurf, however lack of water have to be thankful for salt marsh/mudflat. Disregard my background picture, work wise I moved. 😊
Whick type of Formica did you use? Please help
What else can u use on the bottom insted
how about the thickness of the plywood? What did you use, or what do you advice?
hello from greece!this board is good on water?i wonder if it makes good work as a kiteboard!you are making a great job in this video and it seems to easy to build a board!thank you....
Hi there, yes for this board I did do two bends, however on many other boards I have used just one and it works fine, as long as you keep the bends fairly flat. It really depends on what sand you are on and how you want to ride, if your sand is soft and deep you will want to raise the tip quite a lot, so 2 bends might be better. If your sand is hard, you can get away with one bend. If you ride with your weight back, you don't need as much bend.
Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
No entiendo nada lo que dices,pero está muy bueno el video.Ojalá supiera bien que materiales usas.Osea de qué madera específicamente hablas.
Hi Tulio, I'm not sure I quite understand your question, tell me what time in the video you are referring to and I can provide more details of what I used and what could be used instead
Thanks for watching!
Hey man can you please write me a list of all the tools and names of the tools I need to build a Sandboard please? it will very help me to make my dream come true! Please help me man! (:
do you know if anybody has just bolted shoes on as bindings? it seems like you would have a lot more control than just straps.
Awesome work here, I am in Saudi Arabia and we have a lot of sands, som i am making mine now :)
got a question, did you make the bending on two steps? because you put two lines for the bending to make it smooth.
Thanks
Does the size of the board matter your height and weight
What do you need to make it
I just can't hold myself i need to say it::: you are awesome awesome vid i am going to make it i love it easy fun and ¶uick and materialic (im sorry im from Spain i really don't know english)) i love ur vids and everything i am making that board for sureeee thank you for the videooooooooo love you and your channel so much and love the viddd love ittt D:>3
which is material to united PLYWOOD with Formica?
great video, would it be possible to use 18mm plywood for bending or is that width too big?
Where did you buy the black stuff you put on the bottom and what is it called thanks
Formica it's called
So if I was going to make this but for snow would I have to change anything. I was going to see if I could get more secure foot holds. Is there anything else that would be a good idea to change?
hi there, did u use any specific board? or just any plywood will do.. sorry for my bad english..
where did you get the base material? great vid
Yo buddy, I love your video it motivated me to try yo make one of my own. i almost got everything is just wanted to ask where did you uy your Formica and what was the size or dimension of the Formica Sheet. Ive been looking around and I found some in the HomeDepot and its size is 24in. x 48in. is that a good size. Any suggestion woould be helpful, and thanks again for the video upload.
Hi Kyle great vid. I am looking to make sand sleds for my kids and following your steps, I will be making it wider (as they will sit on it), add some handles (on the sides near where they sit) and some grip strips where there feet go. My question is if the kids are around 130cm tall how long do you think the board should be. Any other tips you have for a kids sand sled would be appreciated. Thanks
hmmm tough question, if you go wider you will need to go shorter to reduce the static drag, especially as I'm guessing your kids would be quite light... but you don't want to go too short as the length to width ratio determines stability... I feel like something in the 1100mm X 400mm might be what you are after, should still work and be wide enough to fit them, although you may want to make it taper back on the rear end for added stability. Not really sure to be honest, I haven't tried it before, although I do know that I can ride my larger boards sitting down without too much difficulty, you just end up with a bit of sand in your pant's as they are too narrow! Here's a video back in the day that I did that has some riding sitting down (my mum at 1:00, my dad doing a follow cam on me from it at 1:40):
ua-cam.com/video/9UFCnp3KBEY/v-deo.html
If I remember correctly, that board was 1.1m long and a bit over 300mm wide, but the tail snapped off it (early weak manufacturing processes) so it ended up being 800mm or so.
Hope that helps!
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Awesome I will let you know how it goes. I did see some in a retail store so using there model and your technique. Thanks again Carolyn
I wonder if a lager, sled for two would work?
Hi, I have an old kids snowboard and was wondering if sticking formica to the bottom would make it into a good sandboard? Thanks, also, why do you choose to use surfboard bindings rather than snowboard bingings? thanks
Thanks man!
Hey, I'm in Aus as well. Having trouble with the formica stuff, does Bunnings sell it ? I have a cabinet maker around the corner from my place would they have some ? Thanks, awesome video
Brock Parnell I got some off a cabinet maker not the cheapest stuff though
It's a pity you DU folks can't get Formica. Us yanks have it around every corner.
Does the board retain the rocker that you mold into the tip/tail or does it flatten back out over time?
Hey lad, did the bends both stay or did they warp over time?
Hey mate where can I buy them straps from or what’s there name cheers
What exactly is the black think you put in the board ? Sorry, I don't speak english very well, I'm belgian...
or just unscrew the wheels from a skateboard... but this is really cool
Do you have a video of how you turned your old snowboard into a sandboard? How well does that work?
Scott Coombs That was actually just a sandboard made with this same method, but using the outline shape of my snowboard. I have ridden actual snowboards as well on sand, and they don't work very well, the base isn't great and they are way too long for sand use, making it really hard to turn them. I suppose you could laminate a formica base onto an old kids sandboard though... I actually have a board the same size as this one where I put kids snowboard bindings on to make it handle better and be easier for me to get in and out of without snowboard boots, and that works great!
Thanks for watching!
so I snowboard and the edges of my snowboard are sharp. Did you sand the edges or will the flat edge work?
Kyle that is one awesome board i think im going to make it but i don't have that press thingy and i was wondering can i make it with no bendingg??!!!D:
i dont recomend to you ride whitout bindings ,,
check my chanel you will se you need the bindings to control your board
You won't get very far without a bend in the front and back of the board. With a flat board, the front will sink into the sand and you'll come to a complete stop.
Can also be used for snoboard?
And any advice as to what size bit and bolts?
hello, please tell me how many centimeters should be the height of the curve ??
Hi, did you use only 1 sheet of thick ply or glue a few thinner sheets together?
Hi, I tried curving the tip using the clamp method, but it only gave a small bend which gradually seemed to get smaller, is there any advice you could give me?
I was wondering if you are able to make a custom boards at request?