And even then, her "cosplays" literally border on shapeshifting. That is *_absolutely_* an Ultimate Talent. So clearly some aspects of the Danganronpa Killing Game setting are real in-universe.
@@g-coalitionbrother1729 we don’t see her feet when she does that during the trial so she could be using heels or high boots to enhance her hight… Tsumugi: “ Boot Goof’n.” [Poses]
So a few things I noticed 1. Tsumugi does lie in trial 6. She says everything was scripted, even though it is clearly not true. When Oma took over in chapter 5 and revealed the outside world, Tsumugi had to improvise and messed up by connecting v3 to hope's peak arc. Furthermore, some labs stayed locked due to their owner being dead, which could imply that they died too soon. And considering Kaede's positivity, she'd likely vote for hope in the end, so maybe she should have stayed the protag for the entire time according to Tsumugi's script. 2. Not my observation, but someone pointed out that that prologue Kaede recognized the monokubs ("If you guys are the monokubs"). 3. Prologue Rantaro is the only one to figure out they are in a killing game. 4. Tsumugi tells kaede to turn around when changing into her clothes. Her cospox could be just makeup. And when Tsumugi changes back into her own clothes, it's described vaguely. 5. In UTDP Tsumugi says she cant make a vampire butler's outfit for Celeste from nowhere but suggest that Hifumi designs a vampire butler oc so she can create that outfit. This could imply that the characters in the tapes were "ocs", so Tsumugi could cosplay them without getting cospox. 6. Despite how evil and unstable Kaito is in his tape, he was a selfless and caring person in the game. Why would team dr fulfill Shuichi's wish, but not Kaito's?
Not enough ppl point out Kaede recognizing the monokubs. I feel like that’s the strongest evidence to show that their original prologue selves are their real selves. If their memories had been modified before this point, she shouldn’t have recognized them. If she was a fan of the show who wanted to be there, she wouldn’t have been so surprised or nervous about them. I think the prologue is played straight. The monokubs forgot to do the first flashback light before waking them up and we are seeing their real selves. The killing game probably is a real tv show, but not one ppl voluntarily sign up for. They may even have the “audition tapes” made so people think the kids are there of their own free will.
@@claiternaiter446Kaito is also excited when the Monokubs tell all the students that they’ve been selected for the game, which is a very strange reaction from a person who’s been chased down by giant robots into a gym, with other equally confused high-schoolers.
@@FlynnMegaTenseiAfter Kokichi kills all motivation for the game, Tsumugi had to make a flashback light that would show them Hope's Peak to inspire them to pursue Kokichi.
To add on to point 3, Prologue Rantaro was also surprisingly calm and collected for someone who had only a few years ago at most SURVIVED THE PREVIOUS KILLING GAME where 14 high schoolers were killed. Im sorry but going through an experience like that, its on the level of escaping one of the contraptions in "Saw". Those memories should be burned into his brain and give him PTSD anytime a stuffed bear or something black and white comes into view. It might just be a plot hole but i always found it interesting how Rantaro acted in the prologue, and it made me question if he really was the "Ultimate Survivor" or if those memories were implanted by the flashback light instead. Also the "Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juveniles" was in a state of prolonged abandonment in the prologue, suggesting it might have been decades since it was last used. Maybe Team Danganronpa has multiple set locations and the last Killing Game was filmed somewhere else, but its a lot of technology and not to even suggest how much it would cost to create that "End of the world" set piece, just to fit this one location. I dunno how logistical it would be for them to have multiple set pieces, and even if they did, idk why this one was abandoned for so long. If its been decades since the last KG took place then also no way Rantaro survived the last one, and it also means the audition tapes are fake too, and backs up the fact that all the kids had to be kidnapped and brought on set in secrecy. The show is not as popular as it seems to the outside world. That would explain why the 16 high schoolers had no idea what was going on, and why they only vaguely recognize the Monokubs in name only.
the way how the characters act in the prologues (which we know is the unaltered memories) compared to the audition tapes gives away tsumugis whole "everything is fictional" thing. it's so wild how so much people just took what she said as the truth as if the entire theme of the game doesn't revolve around lies as well.
completely agree, like hello tsumugi is a PROVEN liar but so many people took her words as the truth and believed her without bothering to put the pieces together
you pointed out the contradictions to a t! tsumugi was most definitely lying in my honest opinion. she was just showing those “audition tapes” to make them feel despair most likely, she IS the mastermind after all.
One perspective that occurred to me recently was that perhaps tsmugi is just as much a victim to the flashback lights as everyone else. She was given a false narrative that she was the mastermind in all of this from the very start, when in reality she was never a volunteer to begin with, just like the rest of them.
I think Tsumugi has to be immune to the flashback lights effects, there's no other way, the meta narrative in ch.6 would stretch to infinity if even Tsumugi's memories of the outside world were a lie created by the flashback light. She's the only character who wears glasses, maybe that's the secret to block the memory erasing beam of light directed at you 😅 Just because she acts scared and frightened in the prologue, doesn't mean much, because her entire character from 1-5 is nothing but kind and considerate to the others, especially Gonta. But its all an act by a truly sadistic and cruel person, who is erasing memories and forcing them to kill each other all while smiling and making cheeky anime refrences. BTW I love Tsumugi, her level of sadism is outstanding, that's the outcome of being the most hardcore Danganronpa fangirl i guess
@Xianity-m6q Shhhh, don't ruin my silly headcanon. I also remembered Gonta wears glasses, even though his eyesight is at a molecular level. That's why I wrote it off at first. Maybe he really is the ultimate gentleman and is so smart he plays a dumb Tarzan persona to make it fair for the killers to get away with their crimes.
They definitely weren't real, their personalities were either heavily flanderized or just different from their pre-game selves, an example of this being what Kaede said when being kidnapped "It made me think about how bad humanity was" or something like that. Its shows that yes, Kaede had some type of apathy to her character, but not to the extent the audition video showed. Which leads me to believe that Tsumugi was trying her hardest to not activate her cos-pox in the auditions by passing off these fictional interpretations of the characters as real people! (it also explains why we cant hear Shuichi's name in his audition tape!)
I think the reason we can't hear Shuichi's name is because if Saihara Shuichi is a fictional character's name, then his real name would be something else. Though, I do believe the tapes are fake and Tsumugi's claims had both truth and lies mixed in.
Another thing, the tape dies Shuichi's name if his current name is fake... but in the prologue before the first flashback light, he does present himself as Shuichi Saihara
@@niquel5831And they have no reason to lie at this point since, as they say, they planned to erase that "misfire" anyway. Thus, everything seen prior to the first Flashback Light is reliable.
Some things that have struck me as odd: - The idea that they were such big fans of Danganronpa, you would think the possibility that they’d been “selected” would cross their minds. It’s a killing game, it wouldn’t be a stretch for them to think they would forgo proper methods to bring them there - Additionally considering they’d been given no implanted memories at this point, shouldn’t they have recognized Rantaro, seeing how he was supposedly a survivor of the 52nd killing game? - If the audition tapes are in fact fake (which I believe they are) then the same could be speculated about Rantaro’s video and message. I have some more points to make on that. - Now on the other hand Rantaro seemed to know what was going on. It’s possible Tsumugi used him in a similar way to how Junko used Mukuro (though I suspect Rantaro was never a willing accomplice) - On that note, one thing that still needs to be solved so to speak, is the voices on the audience that we hear through Keebo. Now this may seem like strong evidence to support Tsumugi’s claim. However, as you pointed out, Tsumugi claims her plan was a “flawless copy” presumably of Junko’s. It’s possible that she previously manipulated people into doing her bidding, like Junko did with the 77th class (side note it’s also odd to me how among other inconsistencies she and any info about Hope’s Peak seem to ignore the fact that the Jabberwock Island killing game took place inside a simulation. And on top of that the same program name is shown the virtual world this cast travels to) - On one hand it makes sense to assume Tsumugi’s cospox was a lie but on the other hand it’d be tricky to fake so swiftly. However, if she didn’t fake it then her whole story comes crashing down immediately.
Before Tsumugi cosplayed as Kaede, she asked Kaede to turn around This would let Tsumugi (who is later shown quickly changing into cosplays of people with different body types and skin colors) fake the cospox without Kaede seeing it
@@Clockwithhands829 I don't think so. When you really think about it, that claim of "cospox" is the only thing keeping the big plot twist together. They'd have no real reason to believe her if it wasn't there. So she had to have deliberately planned this, and being allergic to Kaede's close isn't really something she could've planned in advance. Plus she made Kaede look away while she was changing (but notably didn't do the same for Kaede) so she could've been applying special makeup or something
Tsumugi migth have been the most predictable mastermind ever, but it was definitely the best one, her talent made a somehow really good combination with the "it was all fake" nature of the whole Danganronpa series during chapter 6, I really whished we would’ve seen everyone’s auditions, or at least just Maki and Himiko's. Really love this video and the Teruteru one sensitive Deku!
tbh i agree tsumugi was such a unique mastermind and i really liked her (even though she pissed me off LOL) and thanks for watching 🥺 i’m glad you liked my vids!! ily ❤️
@@SensitiveDeku i think that it went like this: someone invented a virus (Similar to the meteorite virus that Kaito had) and started spreading it to the world and since it was difficult to cure someone had the idea to hibernate the whole humanity kinda like in "Prometheus" and then leave alive some scientists to figure out the cure; however the scientists in charge ALREADY had the cure since they were the ones that spread the virus in the first place and in all those years they actually spent their time eliminating every trace of everything related to Hope's Peak Academy, The Future Foundation, The Tragedy and The Togami Corporation and when they announced that they "found the cure" they used the Flashback lights to everyone related to Hope's Peak Academy to make them normal people so that they can start Team Danganronpa and their long-running business of Killing Games in the virtual world (Because they know the inhumanity of it and they want people to adore them). What do you think?
And even if her cospox was real I feel like she would have still been able to cosplay and film the tapes I mean she couldn't cosplay as kaede, but she would be able to cosplay as a fictional version of her I mean let's say tsumugi was a real person (i'll take markiplier as an example) she wouldn't be able to cosplay as mark because of her cospox, but she would most likely be able to cosplay as darkiplier, right? He's a fictional version of mark (this feels really stupid) So by that logic she wouldn't be able to cosplay as them (kaede, kaito and shuichi) but she would be able to cosplay as an evil/completely different version of them because that's not the real them (i feel like no one really cares but most people say that it's either she doesn't have cospox or the tapes are real and i feel like it could be both) Ok enough rambling, great video! even if it was short i feel like it explained it really well! :) and you have a new subscriber because you seem like a great person and creator! (ok really now, i'll stop rambling, and to anyone who's reading this have a great rest of your day! :)
*Audition Theories* of what the character migth have said Korekiyo: I want an escape of humans, especially from my sister, she’s so annoying! Angie: I don’t think there’s a god up there, I’m okay participating on this Tenko: I would like to get a boyfriend! Miu: I would love to stop being a shy and make some new friends Ryoma: I want to look like tough guy
@@SensitiveDeku I bet that either Tsumugi gave them something completely opposite from what they got or she gave them what they asked but with her "own danganronpa style". Example: Both Kaito and Kaede were okay killing someone, Tsumugi made them do so but she also changed their personalities to heroic ones, Shuichi wanted to be executed and a detective, Tsumugi gave him just the latter. I think Tsumugi analyzed all of the petitions and she gave everyone at least one of the things they asked for.
@@otakutoongamer5616 oh wow that’s honestly such a fresh way to look at things, i never even thought of that! it’s actually really interesting how their alleged “pre-game personalities” matched up with their actions during the killing game somewhat. really interesting perspective! 💙
More: Keebo:I want to look like a human even though i'm an android Kokichi:I want to be a person who is honest and hates lies Kirumi:I don't want to be a maid or a prime minister i rather be a mom Gonta:Me want to be person who hate bug and not gentleman me rather be nincompoop
There was a couple other things i wanna add: The main theme of the game is literally lies and truth. So it would make sense if they left something for us the players to figure out ourselves, even leaving clues for us to find. Secondly, when Kaede is being kidnapped, she says she was reminded of how rotten the world is. This is a strange sentence because I swear Tsumugi says the current world is a utopia where theres no war or violence. Why would Kaede say this then? Kaede also said she had a “talent”, very much implying that the flashback lights probably are unable to completely change their personality. Especially since Kaede and Shuichi acted fairly similar to how they do in the main game. Despite being a past contestant to the previous game, not a single person in the prologue recognized Rantaro. Yet they applied, and some were super fans supposedly. Yet none of then reacted to him. Rantaro, similarly, was just as confused as everyone else. So my theory is that this is in the Danganronpa world, just years after the Hopes Peak arc. And this is the 53rd actual killing game. They just kidnap random people and its shown to admirers of Junko and the remnants of despair. This could also just be an alternate universe, which is possible too. Where Danganronpa is actually fictional and it went like they had said, to the point where they actually did killing games. Just in secret. I’m a little doubtful about this one tho.
Said it all. Kodaka himself even said for peeps to go back to the start of the game if they didn't understand the ending, and Tsumugi's lines during graduation in the non killing game mode are awfully sus.
They didn't react to tsumugi either, isn't that weird? She was also in the previous game? (Idk if that's true or.confirmed canon so don't take this stuff to heart)
I have another theory like what if danganronpa was just a "fictional show" im the anime world but it actually was real this whole time. everyone watching danganronpa in the anime world thinks theyre acting but dont know that they were taken somehwere else to actually participate in the killing game, yk what i mean? but i think this theory of mine could be debunked because the participant's family members could recognize them on the tv at first glance OR they altered their physique as well to make them unrecognisable by their relatives
This was a great video, I don't see many people talk about if Tsumugi lied. Most people just believe that she told the truth. This might be super long but I've got my own theory. My theory is that all the V3 characters are ultimate students and the versions of them in the killing game are their true selves. Firstly Tsumugi makes a lot of bold claims and everyone believes her because of cospox. They come to the realisation that everything is fictional because of cospox and because of this they believe everything else Tsumugi says. But cospox is a very flimsy foundation that can easily be disproven. Kaede changes in front of Tsumugi and it then says in the dialogue that Kaede turned around when Tsumugi changed. They wouldn't have put that piece of dialogue in for no reason. Many parts of V3 are crafted to push a narrative of truth or lies such as Tsumugi lying about everyone's reactions to being put in the killing game. It also mentioned how Kaede set up the murder without explicitly telling you that she was setting up the murder, this proves that the dialogue has been carefully written especially for important moments such as the masterminds reason for everything being fictional. If Kaede turned around then Tsumugi would have enough time to cover her whole body in makeup to resemble a rash. She can instantly cosplay as anyone in seconds, this can be seen in the final trial when she perfectly takes the form and voice of other Danganronpa characters. She is clearly skilled in makeup and can apply it in seconds, she changed her skin tone to match up with other characters when she cosplayed and she seems to be carrying around makeup when she was in the final trial, so it's not a stretch to assume that she was carrying makeup and quickly faked a rash while Kaede had her back turned. It even mentions that Tsumugi knew she was going to be questioned before they went to the bathrooms. This might not be the best evidence but Tsumugi was fine with getting changed in front of Angie, Tenko and Himiko in chapter 3 so it's odd that she isn't fine with changing in front of Kaede. Everyone believed Tsumugi's cospox was real even though it only happened once and the only person who saw it is dead and is an unreliable narrator. Kaede is an unreliable narrator because she set up the murder in front of the player without the dialogue explicitly saying her motivation for murder. Therefore if cospox is fake then Tsumugi lied and she can cosplay real people. So she could have created the audition tapes by cosplaying as Kaede, Shuichi and Kaito. Once you realise that cospox is fake everything else can also be easily proven fake. In the audition tapes all of the names are blanked out, this implies that they had different names before. But Kaede and Shuichi say their names in the prologue when they supposedly had their old names. The personalities are also inconsistent, Shuichi is portrayed as a Psychopathic Danganronpa fan but in the prologue he is shown to be caring as he tried to save Kaede by directing her where to go when the exisal was chasing her. However many characters have different personalities such as Kokichi being more timid or Kirumi looking very timid in the CG. My theory is that they all erased the memories of their talents to escape from the killing game. They are in the same universe as the past two games because Tsumugi's cosplays were fake so it proves that they are in the same universe. They would have known about the tragedy and what monokumas looked like that's why they reacted in fear when they saw the monokubs because they resemble monokuma. The flashback light can give memories back, some of these memories are real and some of them are false. But there was also a machine that was on Kaedes head that can be seen in the second half of the prologue when they remember they are ultimate's. The implication is that this device was used to erase their memories of the first half of the prologue. So these could be the same devices they used to erase their memories of their talents. If the characters forgot their talents they would have forgotten all of the memories that come with their talents. This explains all of the characters personalities. If Kokichi forgot his talent then he would have forgotten all of the memories of him playing pranks on people when he was in D.I.C.E. If he forgot these memories then he would be a troublemaker. If Kirumi forgot about being a maid then she would have forgotten her formal attitude she developed because of being a maid. Tenko acts dramatic and has a low tolerance for pain in the prologue. She says she has a low tolerance for pain in the second class trial. She acts the same way both times she sees the exisals.
She screams, panics and acts dramatic. They wouldn't have done this for no reason. If they were different people then they would have used the dialogue to show how different she was before and after the flashback light instead of copying the dialogue and having the same reaction. This proves that Tenko has the same personality. Tenko had the same personality before she developed her talent. She had extreme emotions such as temper tantrums and it can be assumed that her being hyper and overdramatic are apart of those extreme emotions. Those extreme emotions got her sent to live and train at a temple where she learned Neo Aikido. So if she forgot her talent and all of the memories associated with it then she would still have the same personality traits. Kaede probably grew to love humanity by seeing everyone happy with her music. She played the piano since she was a baby, so if you take her memories of her talent away then she wouldn't like humanity because she wouldn't have seen everyone so happy at her performances. Ryoma was probably kidnapped from jail by Tsumugi. It seems hard to believe that one 18 year old girl could break into a highly guarded prison and break out a criminal without being caught but Junko was an 18 year old girl who caused the downfall of humanity so I think it's safe to assume that Tsumugi could break into a prison. Sorry for the very long comment. I could go into a lot more theories but I don't want to be a nuisance. Once again thank you for making a wonderful video.
oh no you weren’t annoying at all! this was an AMAZING analysis even better than mine!! i was struggling to find a plausible way tsumugi could have faked the cospox, and your answer not only makes logical sense but actually goes well with all the other evidence against Tsumugi’s claims that I compiled in the video! ^^ this was an amazing comment thank you for taking the time to write it! ❤️
@@greenskullix1431 Your Analysis was Amazing and has a nice thorough explanation on the game as whole Plus imo it's likely the best theory I've seen so far for V3 Btw i have a possible theory that maybe the dead v3 characters aren't completely dead similar to DR2
Another thing that also suggests Tsumugi was lying about was pregame Rantaro in Chapter one. He was so quick to oppose and questioning who’s behind this why they are there when he should’ve been understanding if what Tsumugi said is true
Also it doesn’t make sense that no one else recognized him if he was supposedly the Ultimate Survivor and the others were supposedly huge fans of Danganronpa
I think even Tsumugi being the mastermind is a lie. She just believes that she's the mastermind because of the flashback lights. But, in reality, she's just another victim being held against her will. Shuichi even points out the relief on her face after she lost, indicating that she really didn't enjoy it as much as she claimed. Keep in mind that one of the things that Shuichi caught onto was that one of the punishments that one of the surviving students would have to be facing (he said that it was the sacrifices, but I think that was a mistake on his part) is becoming the mastermind for the next killing game.
@@SensitiveDeku especially when you notice Tsumugi is just as afraid as everyone else in the Prologue. Sure it could be her acting, but if she was a member of Team Danganronpa why would she need to be there at that moment outside of keeping the player from suspecting her for not being in that scene?
@@dustyfedora She'd be mad that the monokubs aren't on script and that the Ultimate don't have their uniforms on. Especially knowing their memories were about to be replaced. I'm sure it was a active decision made to include Tsumugi in the prologue.
When memory altering flashlights are in the mix, pretty much anything the mastermind says is the truth should be taken with a boulder of salt Even Prologue Tsumugi didn’t know what was happening at that point. I think there’s a different mastermind that made her into the one for the Killing Game.
the whole ending of v3 is so so so interesting just because it can be taken in so many ways! another theory i saw was about the whole necronomicon motive in chp 3. if it was used, _how_ would have a dead character been brought back? it's so weird right? none of the motives are necessarily lies, because they do always lead to something. the card that reveals "the real world" really did work and showed a fabricated version of the world. with that in mind, how was team dangan going to go forward with the necronomicon? this is where the neo world program theory comes in. i find it difficult to believe that the entirety of japan's population would have agreed to a killing game on-air, and what i think team dangan would've done to sate the public's disagreement is the NWP (neo world program). all 16 students put in the NWP and forced to play the killing game, and when anyone would die they'd either wake up in the real world or be in a comatose state until the end of the killing game. this would it make so that bringing back any of the dead students is possible during chp 3. i dunno, it's a weird theory but the whole necronomicon thing is also a strange motive. what do you think? i thought i'd throw this out here lol
Neo World immediately came to mind when the necronomicon appeared, but there are zero evidences of anything in this game being a simulation I thought the exaggerated technology was evidence, since the Monobeasts and Monokuma's super powers were explained by DR2 being a simulation, but then Another Episode came and showed that super advanced robots can exist in real life Another theory that I think makes sense is that they would simply get someone that looks like the dead participant and give them the participant's memories. It'd a lot harder to do but it fits the rest of the story I guess they refrained from actually using the necronomicon to avoid giving an explanation, but the mere existence of it is pretty confusing since it brought no lasting effects to the plot (it wasn't even used as a motive), so it just raised unecessary questions
Another thing: looking from an writing perspective, the simulation thing would ruin the ending The characters were willing to give up their own lives to end the killing game since it is, you know, a killing game. I know about the possibility of them being forced to play the game and, yes, that's already bad, but the deaths are the main fuel behind the character's decision. If there were no consequences and everyone got to live after the game ended, what would be the purpose of ending Danganronpa?
1:44 You can see a little pink below his eyes... I dont know cause thats how it is. But dont you think She was trying as hard as possible to hide her cosplox?
A theory I have, lmao So in Tsumugi's research lab, the flooring down the back looks pretty similar to the ones we see in the audition tapes. I reckon that she had fabricated those tapes there Also adding on the the fact that she easily could've cosplayed them, as you had said in your video. Amazing analyse btw !! I totally agree with everything you said here. I also don't get how stereotyped the pg au's have gotten. Because if they were "yandere, soft, obsessed etc" why would the mastermind even bother to change their personalities anyway? What's the despair in that? Why not just use robots or something? - So yes. I agree with the fact that they weren't here by choice !
just reading from the title, i don’t think the audition tapes are real. it might be evidence to support tsumugi’s claim is true. maybe tsumugi was also part of the flashback light thing thing whatever it was too. i don’t have anything to support my idea just a little guess before the video starts lol
I HAVE AN ADDITION! The thing is, tsumugi said she can only cosplay a fictional character and if she tries to cosplay someone that is real, she'll get the cospox. She said in the last class trial that shuichi and the others are fictional. If shuichi, kaede and the others are fictional, how did she even get the cospox when she tried to cosplay kaede in the first place if kaede is "fictional"? This info is not mine, i got it from a comment in a Danganronpa video, i forgot who you are but for real, if you are the person who proposed this info, thank you so much for letting us know about this stuff ☺️
I'm pretty sure the "cospox" thing was another one of her lies. I'm not saying the allergic reaction itself was faked, but the actual cause was probably something different from "I break out in a rash if I dress up as a real person".
I'll give my two cents in a random video on the internet just because There are a lot of things that point not only to the tapes being false, but she also lying about the fact that they aren't ultimates, and maybe even about V3 being the 53rd killing game. Let's talk about the tapes first: The tapes are recorded in an extremely strange angle for audition tapes, which is consistent with the idea that she may have recorded all in her lab. Normally, in auditions like that the camera would be facing the person speaking at, more or less, the same height as their eyes. Being a reality show it could be even the case that they would prefer that you would record your own audition and send it to them, meaning it would be even more bizarre to have them all with the same backgrounds. Also, about the prologue I believe time doesn't add up in addition to the evidence you've brought up, I don't think that there was enough time to record the tapes. Them not being ultimates: that is clearly a lie. She claims everything about their talents was put into their brains and that they are ordinary people, however, there are some talents that no matter how much you stress it, doesn't make any sense. I'll begin with the ones I believe should have an argument to support that it was brainwash, but it's still strange. Shuichi's deductive skills, Angie's artworks and Miu's inventions don't add up as being the result of them receiving their talents out of nowhere, because although it may be plausible to insert information, those require specific skills that can only be met with practice and experience. But these could still have an argument for being fake, however now we enter the ones that simply don't add up in any way shape or form: Himiko's, Kirumi's and Maki's talents. I'll start with Kirumi's: There are a lot of things that a maid need to know how to do that requires dexterity, finesse and muscle memory, things she wouldn't be capable of without proper physical training, same goes for Himiko's talent, anyone who've ever dealt with magic tricks should know that the prestidigitation and dexterity required for the tricks, not only for sleight of hand, but all sorts of tricks, is also something that can only be achieved with proper physical training, but the worst is Maki. Maki is shown to be extremely fit and precise, and in more than one time she shows she's able to move wicked fast. There's absolutely no way that that is the result of a talent being implanted in her head out of the blue, if her body never did any of that before she simply wouldn't be capable of doing so, no amount of fake information would be able to do that and even if they chose a volunteer physically fit to play the ultimate assassin (which would be speculation to assume so, since we have no evidence for that), what she does is too specific to be something anyone could do even if they were physically fit. I would put Ryouma and Tenko here too, but we never saw them using their talents during the main game, so I don't think they would be a good example. But I would even go as far as to say that even Kokichi's talent and way of thinking don't add up to that narrative, but honestly, that would be hard to argue concretely. Lastly, the 53rd killing games: No way that makes sense. Every iconic reference to previous killing games always focus on the two games before this, save for a few throwaway lines from Monokuma and the Monokubs, there's absolutely no reference to no other killing games. Between them saying a random thing about a previous execution or something similar and having a entire virtual world, a pattern on the window which is Sayaka on a show, or even the iconic sword, those things aren't even close to comparable. Plus, Monokuma and the Monokubs say weird shit that makes no sense all the time, and some of those things were proven to be deliberate lies to fuck with the participants of the killing game and misdirect them on purpose. I don't think this was the 3rd killing game per se, because I do believe there's evidence that might have been others between the second game and this one, or even more than one happening at the same time in parallel with each other, but I find it hard to believe that there were 53rd of them, specifically when certain things that makes a comeback are explicitly said to be the second time they appear. You mean to tell me that in 53 installments, only in the last one they thought to replicate the execution with the space rocket of the first one. They didn't thought of it not even in the anniversaries with round numbers, like the 50th anniversary for example? Nope, I refuse to believe that a show would do that. Anyway, that last one was more like a minor one, but it has bothered me forever now. The first two were more important. Tsumugi lied about everything and her story doesn't make any sense specifically compared to the other games. I could go on and even say how much this makes the story of the games contradict themselves unless you assume Tsumugi lied (which seems to be the case since the game provided extremely good evidence), but it's now 2 in the morning where I live, so I have to go to sleep even though I'm obsessed with talking about danganronpa right now. Anyway, have a nice day whoever read this thing I wrote till the end.
the thing about v3 is that it would be hard to trick us players into thinking it’s a game that has relation to the other pets of the series without making it seem like a third game. We knew something was off because of the V, but making it V3 confused us to the point where we could not really figure out what was going on from the get go
What if DR1&2 are actually fiction as the Danganronpa video game exists in their world and the Danganronpa game show was made in their universe as a copy of the video game, thats why Tsumugi can cosplay as 1 & 2 characters and not V3 characters. The tapes are most likely fake like the flashback light “memories”
After Watching the whole video, you make some really good points! Especially when you said tsumugi may have made them. Also, I do really love this format! I enjoy all of your analysis videos! Keep up the great work!
thanks so much for the feedback shree! i’m really trying to improve my dictation in my vids (cuz i feel i sound like a dumbass LMAO) but i’m really happy you enjoy my vids anyway 🥺 YOURE THE BESTT
Very nice video, dude! ❤ I agree with the evidence you've presented on why Tsumugi might be pretending to be the main characters in each of the audition tapes
I never thought of it before, but there is a contradiction about the audience of the game. Tsumugi claims that the world is peaceful with no wars or serious crime. It’s basically a utopia or very close to becoming one, a far better world than the one in Danganronpa or our own. And yet the audience wants to keep seeing hope triumph over despair? Yes, there are those that like Despair endings, but there seems to be an awful lot of support for Hope. What need does a utopia have for hope when they’ve already reached an era of peace and harmony? Why hope when you’ve reached your goal for a better world? We like seeing hope and fiction because of how escapist it is to our world and how it inspires us to do better than our current selves. So what use is hope if you are your best self?
Ontop of this the entirety of the game is themed around lying, including down to who the protagonist even was on the case. Kodaka himself told people on twitter to go back to the beginning if they were confused about the ending, and additionally, Tsumugi says some pretty strange lines that suggest the whole thing is setup in that one non-killing game mode you can play upon completing V3 before graduating.
I genuinely feel she faked almost everything the whole tapes like they genuinely felt so fake and far fetched like how do people believe them for face value? So yeah I feel like it was all faked and that no one(except Tsumugi as she was just Tsumugi) enjoyed or wanted to be part of Danganronpa, plus why does anyone trust Tsumugi's word???? It's bullshit does the fanbase even acknowledge this??
Yeah I feel like the tapes being so drastically different from the people we’ve come to know is a little too convenient for her case. It feels more like a shock value type of thing.
5:00 Why is that even a question? It was either Tsumugi and/or the monocubs, whom recently dressed them all up. It's not far fetched to assume that after the first flachback light, they simply had them dressed back in their original cloths.
I've actually recently started writing fanfic for the first time because of this game. I will admit that I've kind of cheapened the plot of the game, because in my head I desperately want these kids to come out happy since they deserve so much more. I've tried to make it so that the truths and lies kind of meld together. Regarding the tapes, I wrote them so that they were legitimate, but altered. The thing that stuck out to me was how Shuichi's name was censored to imply that he's a totally different person. Another thing I've done is that the validity of the survivors' past is in question because of Tsumugi, but in actuality their memories are more similar to reality with some embellishments. Eg. If these are normal kids that are given talents, Maki wouldn't be an assassin. However, she'd still be from an orphanage. That sort of thing. I kind of accidentally advertised my fanfic, but I'd like to contribute to the conversation that there are elements of truths and lies to be had in all forms of discussion. For my case, I treated the Killing Game as a lie as though it's the survivors series. With those who get to win and leave retaining all memories (including their talents) from the game, whereas those eliminated come back as their supposedly pregame selves. Also I'm a huge Saimatsu sucker, so I'm doing all I can to imagine them all having a happy ending XS
i’d love to read your fanfic! especially since i’m saimatsu trash too x) if you’ve posted it feel free to leave the name of it or a link and i’ll gladly add it to my reading list!
@@SensitiveDeku Tried replying twice but I can't send a link I guess It's on Wattpad The Awakening: A Saihara and Akamatsu Story Ironically I don't use their last names XP
@Phoebe LaRose This is less about the survival of the game than the perception of how much of the events have actually transpired. As in, the words coming out of Tsumugi's mouth can be taken at face value. Or maybe she's lying about everything. Or maybe there's a level of truth behind her lies and vice versa. Which is why I like the ending where it really plays with your thoughts and understanding up to that point, and how it could change when going over it. My route about it is definitely cheapens the game, I will admit. But I feel like there's significance to thinking of how even when things are fake, there are real effects. In my fanfic, it deals with that issue in a psychological manner. Granted in a mild way, because my focus is ultimately a Saimatsu fanfic XD
I honestly love how insane this ending is and how we can sit here and dissect it and discuss it in so much detail. You hit on all the points I think about whenever my brain wanders over to good ol V3 💜💜 My biggest question is how tsumugi faked those cospox though...maybe I’m dumb but I can’t wrap my head around how she made herself pink like that in front of kaede on the spot when the whole disease is fake. ALSO THAT DAMN EDIT OF HER WAIST SJDJSJDJD YOU AINT SLIICCCKKK ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO FROM MY KING 🥰💜💙 I don’t mind the shorter videos!
Someone else pointed out how Tsumugi had Kaede turn around when she was changing into her clothes. When you consider how with her talent she was able to practically transform from one person into a completely different person in terms of size and complexion in a matter of moments, it’s not outside of the possibility she just used makeup to fake a rash in the seconds that Kaede wasn’t looking at her change
personally i think they all have the same personalities pregame they were just flabbergasted and tsumugi was like: mhmmm imma make em seem like they wanna be in dang it grandpa
The prologue definitively confirms the audition tapes are fake. The Monokubs confirm no one had their memories tampered with prior to their first "awakening" due to a production error on their part. That means Kaede's memory of being abducted off the street is real. No one intervened because everyone knew what it was for. This is the "rotten world" Kaede was referring to.
AND ANOTHER THING! Tsumugi's entire claim of "cospox" relies on the notion that the Hope's Peak Danganronpa world and the Danganronpa V3 outside world are on different planes/levels of fiction and reality, with V3 supposedly being more "real world" akin to our prime reality. Hence the countless obvious references to other media, including several *directly by name* mainly by Tsumugi and Monokuma themselves (Monokuma's Hedgehog rant, Tsumnugi talking about Doraemon, etc.), creating the idea that everything that exists as fictional entertainment in their world is the same as ours. This primes us to believe her when she says Hope's Peak is pure fiction even within the game's universe. Yet even that has to be tossed out the window as any sort of proof to back her claims because Hope's Peak Danganronpa is ALSO chock full of these references being made by name. We have a Jason Statham fangirl, a dude who prays to King Kai, a guy who named his gang after a JoJo's stand, the main character claiming he doesn't *have* a Stand...so clearly, that world shares a lot of "entertainment" in common with ours as well. Now sure, that could easily mean HP is fiction in a real-lite setting to V3 the same as both are to us, but why does Tsumugi's "Ultimate Cosplay" amount to borderline instantaneous shapeshifting if, say, Ultimate talents are all fake? No, the Monokumas don't take away from that. Despite these character skins all bearing different shapes, colors, and sizes, including some being shorter than Tsumugi herself, clearly the switches ARE NOT happening too fast for her to adapt because *she emulates each voice perfectly the moment the character's on and never flubs or gets the wrong voice.* So we don't know whether they're the ones actually changing her skins or they're just providing the smoke screen so the classmates (and the player) don't get a quick flash of naked Tsumugi. Whichever case may be, what's abundantly clear is whose team exactly BUILT the Monokumas.
I just assumed they were brainwashed multiple times the first time they were there cuz we already know they can brainwash people pretty easily but those machines. I wasn't sure if the original personalities were there or they were brainwashed. I just assumed the tapes were real. But if they're original selfs was rebrainwashed.but at the end of the game three people survived, and went into the real world so what would happen to them they would be famous of course but not all the fans like them though for ignoring the reality show not sure about their families though if they had any.
Another thing that disproves cospox being real is monokuma. Tsumugi’s Junko cosplay is holding a Monokuma in one of her sprites. This is cosplaying a non-fiction character and should have given her cospox if she was telling the truth.
Personally, I just like to think the audition tapes were real because I like imagining little pregame scenarios in my head. I also like spending 3 hours thinking of what their pregames would be like. 10/10 would recommend. However, great theory!
great video as always! its a good add on to another yt video "busting the mastermind's lies because im a bored" if you havent seen it lol i also love the idea that tsumugi used her talent to create the tapes. looking forward to more of your dr videos in this format ❤️
Ah i remember ch 6 the memory when they happy being choose is come from the last flashback light is showing memories after memories with a bit delayed ( when they investigating the last mystery ) and different with the prologue. V3 character don't have prologue memory what players see but they have the fake memory
I think the main reason it's so divisive is the fact that on the surface it wipes out everything that happened in previous cannon. But the ending really did leave a lot of fascinating mysteries about the game, the other games, and the series as a whole that it leaves to the player to answer for themselves. In my opinion it was a little clunky in it's execution but it was still a very fitting way to end the series as a whole, until the next Danganronpa game of course.
I've seen some other comments saying the same thing but I'm gonna make my comment. No, I don't believe Tsugumi was lying. While yes, lying may be fitting for her character in this specific scenario she has no reason to. Plus the memories of being kidnapped were part of the fake memories, adding more to the fake ultimate hunt plot of the ultimate students being hunted down and kidnapped. On top of all this, the game clearly shows that people in the world of danganronpa are crazy enough to worship it around the world, so it's not out of the ordinary that some people ate simply crazy enough to want to participate in this killing game whether they die or not. This is the truth I'm sticking to unless there's some proof that REALLY convince me.
Here’s some proof that might convince you. you claim that them remembering them being kidnapped was a false memory but Tsumugi mentions that they would lose their memory and identity after the flashback light was used and keade says they were kidnapped before the flashback light was used also we’re supposed to believe the prologue was their original identity before they got brainwashed and that’s when Keade mentions being kidnapped.
I would have preferred that everyone get punishment in the final judgment, rather than tsumugi changing the vote to her and keebo, and continuing like, "I don't think your friends are going to vote for me" preferring to vote badly to end it all, so keebo It would motivate them that just voting for tsumugi everything would end, then they would vote for her but that they would be wrong because she was never the mastermind and she was just incubating someone. Just for the sake of danganronpa.
I mean, for all we know, it could have just been the monokubs messed up what origin story they were supposed to use for the prolouge. They used the "kidnapped ultamites that have surpressed their memories." Story instead of the "im an ultamite, but have no clue whats going on." Flashback light they were supposed to start with. Thus the bears having to improve why they're a script ahead
I'm literally here because I was slowly coming to the realization that maybe some of the saddest moments were scripted so I hope it wzs fake cuz now I'm literally so happy Hah
Is Pre-game Shuichi really THAT out of character though? He has pretty much the same basic personality and demeanor, just he's a fan of danganronpa. Always made me feel like even if the characters are "fake", its only specific memories that were changed, and their basic nature and personality are largely the same.
not really, considering the fact that at that point no one had been touched with a flashback light yet, not to mention it makes no sense to implant memories of them being kidnapped just to strip them of those same memories moments later.
hey i really like this please do more dr videos. i just finished the series and v3 left me feeling some type of way. i can't believe kodaka would more or less shit on his own creation which is what it felt like - in a way. i love that v3 is about lies and truth and asks us to look back on the other games and figure out what is real and not. since i played it all in a month i want your thoughts on dr1 where idr when but i have a gif one of the later chapters the camera in naegis room starts flickering like it's glitched. how deep do you think this is and what it means?? how valid is v3s claim?
glad you enjoyed the vid! and yeah v3’s ending definitely left me shaken up; and as for the scene in dr1 i’ll look into it ‘cuz it sounds intriguing..! i’ll see if I can do a vid on it
There is one elephant in the room everyone should address: The auditions do say that "killing everyone" and "doing the most gruesome murders" is a possibility. However, this contradicts important rules of the Killing game: You only have a limited amount of people to kill, and after that, you can only hope to get other students killed by getting away with a murder. The auditions do not take into account the main rules of Danganronpa, which makes me think they're not trustworthy in the slightest.
she doesn’t recall them getting “picked up” though, she recalls literally being grabbed off the side of the road on her way to school and being forced into a car. and how does it make any logical sense she can vividly recall being kidnapped but doesn’t have a semblance of an idea how she wound up in a killing game, when the “audition tape” depicts her as being very eager to be apart of it?
@@SensitiveDeku its semantics to argue over picked up and kidnapped. i meant the same thing. Also she woke up in a locker and said that was the first thing she remembered. When the monokubs transported (or whatever other word is better here) them all to the realm of killing, any past memories all became fabricated. Either that or theres just a massive hole right there between what was really true before the game officially started and what wasn't. Idk anymore
But wait! the videos that were distributed to them in the Chapter 2 were real or not? because if they were real, perhaps some things might become clear. Although I can see that it might have been fake, but there is something that makes me want to believe it. In addition, when Tsumugi described the real world is *so peaceful* in the literal sense, I doubt that was one of her lies. If it was true, why at the beginning of the game the group of students were kidnapped to play a killing game, can we really believe that it was "so peaceful"?
Wait a sec lemme point something out lol I’m just very veryyy confused, DRV3 confused me sooo much in general. But remember how you pointed out that kaede and shuichi were kidnapped which contradicts the video clips that tsumugi showed them? But wasn’t them being kidnapped part of the fake plot line/story? The plot line that team danganronpa created?
Every characters that Tsumugi cosplayed in trial 6 had the symbol "V" on their right eye and "3" on their left eye. So I really don’t think the audition tapes were faked by Tsumugi. Maybe they actually said that under the influence of a flashlight.
After rewatching the Prologue of V3, I noticed how Kaede(?, there might be another charac saying this) keeps saying “If you are the Monokubs, does that mean-“, but she keeps getting cut off. What if she was about to say “If you are the Monokubs, does that mean you are the children of Monokuma” or something
I’m over 3 years late to this video but I gotta say, this theory makes a lot of sense. Honestly, I know a lot of people aren’t really fans of Tsumugi being the mastermind due to how predictable it is, but you gotta admit that the lies she tells makes the story much more interesting and compelling which makes the player really think about what went down in certain parts of the story and whatnot. That’s part of the reason why I love V3: it’s very clearly centered around lies (Kokichi and Tsumugi both contribute to this), so you never actually know if what anything that happened was the truth or not.
What if after the auditions, Team Danganronpa tracked down the students they selected and kidnapped them out of nowhere rather than just kindly informing them that they got in and normally transporting them? Sure, that would suggest that they would also remember auditioning during the prologue since they still had all their memories, but this could be explained by either them 1. them still not realizing during the prologue that they’re in this school because of the audition or 2. their memories of just the audition could’ve been wiped before they woke up, since Team Danganronpa always had access to the memory wiping stuff, I think? Or they just altered the students’ memories to make them think they were just randomly kidnapped, since them knowing that they wanted to be in the killing game obviously would’ve messed things up?
i have some reasons why the tape might be real correct me if i’m wrong when the tape was recorded they could have signed up from different schools and when they got kidnapped they didn’t know that would happen so of course they were scared but the reason they were kidnapped was to be in the killing game they signed up for
I like 90% of this theory, but I have to wonder how this show even exists if it's comprised of kidnapped children. It's not impossible, but a lot needs to happen for an illegal show to work no matter how powerful Team Danganronpa might be.
Listen not only this but explain Nagito's hand and Hajime old and kamikura. All these were the fabrication versions from the neo world program she could have just observed lacking the real versions we see from later media. All these were broadcasted and therefore these would be the versions she'd have seen. We know mokotos sister is real but she's also absent along with junkos twin sister despite being referenced a million times by tsumugi. Everything tsumugi didn't know about wasn't shown. But if it was all a "story" you would think she'd know. Along with my last point, in 2 we learn that everyone will become "Junko" when the despairs leave the neo world program. We know this to be a lie because v3 exists. But tsumugi would have access to the neo world program information which would make her view of Junko available to her the fake Junko from 2. While the first game Junko is very different from the 2. We know the second version lied. So so would tsumugi's version.
I'd also like to add that Miu altered everyone's avatar in the neo world program. Meaning as long as tsumugi copied the avatars instead she could fake these videos.
I think this is an amazing theory But I have a question if the tapes aren't real why did we see kaede in what seems like a helmet? And what if she simply made fake memories of them being kidnapped? I still think this is an amazing theory and honestly I believe it but those questions are bugging me
What fake memories of them being kidnapped. They don't remember themselves being kidnapped. All they know is that they supposedly auditioned to be on the show. The helmet is only shown after the false memories were implanted. I think that was a memory he had a flash of of before she had her memories changed.
Couldn't she just make a flashback light before they got their outfits that makes them believe they are auditioning. Then record it Then they'd do the audition andthe next light would overrite it.
I also believe that. Theese tapes aren't real and also the personality switch because if you analyze the characters personality in the game and in the prologue they are tecnically de same the only difference that the flashback lights did added was the talents because even kaede and shuici said that they are just average high school students and when kaede meet with everyone and monosuke mentions the ultimate talents kaede said tha she did had a hobbie but dind't consider it an ultimate . meaning she dind't have an ultimate talent and if the swich personality was real than shuici and kaede wouldn't present thenselves as kaede and shuici before the fist flashback ligth.
Hi, I have my next theory: Tsumugi lied a LOT. She did lied not only these audition tapes, but also Rantaro's tapes. Pretending to be him in order to make sure he went to the right place in order to get the first kill done. Tsumugi can cosplay them, that's why on chapter 3 monobears offer the resurrection ritual. She was agreed by cosplaying one of the dead players if the ritual came to be completed. My theory is that is not an alternative universe. Is the same universe post danganronpa 3 anime. When Naegi is adult and society is recovered. But some despair still remains. A cosplayer tried to cosplay Enoshima Junko, and get caught with the character, creating a new despair that made them capture 15 students, to start this killing game, rantaro is possible that was a hope's peak academy that knew about Monokuma and the new killing games, so he get caught on purpose just to get inside and fight mastermind, sadly, Tsumugi was able to get this and make sure to kill him first as the biggest threat for her purposes.
Then...how was she able to cosplay the characters from danganronpa 1 and 2? Let's entertain that they (the events such as the tragedy and hopes peak academy) were real, right? So cosplaying as Junko, Hajime, Byakuya, Hiyoko, Mikan, etc. should have given her the cosplay chicken pox thingy, because she can't cosplay as real people, right? If danganronpa 1 and 2 weren't real, then she is able to cosplay them perfectly. Unless...everyone from danganronpa 1 and 2 died...? Does her cosplay chicken pox rule extend to death?
Maybe tsumugi lied about the reason of her cospox, and the problem is that she gets cospox when she's not cosplaying someone else, meaning she's kaede's twin sister. That's why when she cosplayed kaede, she was kind of being herself and not cosplaying anyone else.
I just want to know if their game selves are their true selves because if not, then that means kokichi isn't actually a prankster, he's realistically a shy dude. I don't like the opposite personality theory because then we'd never get to see the characters true selves due to the fact that Tsumugi created fake personas for them.
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Kaede: *I don’t have any faith in humanity*
Me: *Okay but like same-*
Yet Tsumugi said the outside world is a heavenly Utopia. Too many inconsistencies.
@@GloomisticI assume Kaede is pretending to be Junko since she was bored in an hopeful world along with Hope’s Peak Academy.
I'd like to point out the the angle of the camera in the tapes can easily hide the person's actual height.
And even then, her "cosplays" literally border on shapeshifting. That is *_absolutely_* an Ultimate Talent. So clearly some aspects of the Danganronpa Killing Game setting are real in-universe.
@@g-coalitionbrother1729 we don’t see her feet when she does that during the trial so she could be using heels or high boots to enhance her hight…
Tsumugi: “ Boot Goof’n.” [Poses]
I'm 2 years late but yeah lol.
*cosplays into teruteru* is a 4 feet lil guy
*cosplays into nekumaro* is a 6'4 giant with huge muscles and a big dick
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Orrr shot! Through them?
So a few things I noticed
1. Tsumugi does lie in trial 6. She says everything was scripted, even though it is clearly not true. When Oma took over in chapter 5 and revealed the outside world, Tsumugi had to improvise and messed up by connecting v3 to hope's peak arc.
Furthermore, some labs stayed locked due to their owner being dead, which could imply that they died too soon. And considering Kaede's positivity, she'd likely vote for hope in the end, so maybe she should have stayed the protag for the entire time according to Tsumugi's script.
2. Not my observation, but someone pointed out that that prologue Kaede recognized the monokubs ("If you guys are the monokubs").
3. Prologue Rantaro is the only one to figure out they are in a killing game.
4. Tsumugi tells kaede to turn around when changing into her clothes. Her cospox could be just makeup. And when Tsumugi changes back into her own clothes, it's described vaguely.
5. In UTDP Tsumugi says she cant make a vampire butler's outfit for Celeste from nowhere but suggest that Hifumi designs a vampire butler oc so she can create that outfit. This could imply that the characters in the tapes were "ocs", so Tsumugi could cosplay them without getting cospox.
6. Despite how evil and unstable Kaito is in his tape, he was a selfless and caring person in the game. Why would team dr fulfill Shuichi's wish, but not Kaito's?
Not enough ppl point out Kaede recognizing the monokubs. I feel like that’s the strongest evidence to show that their original prologue selves are their real selves. If their memories had been modified before this point, she shouldn’t have recognized them. If she was a fan of the show who wanted to be there, she wouldn’t have been so surprised or nervous about them. I think the prologue is played straight. The monokubs forgot to do the first flashback light before waking them up and we are seeing their real selves. The killing game probably is a real tv show, but not one ppl voluntarily sign up for. They may even have the “audition tapes” made so people think the kids are there of their own free will.
@@claiternaiter446Kaito is also excited when the Monokubs tell all the students that they’ve been selected for the game, which is a very strange reaction from a person who’s been chased down by giant robots into a gym, with other equally confused high-schoolers.
Ik its been a year but can you elaborate what you meant with number 1? That it connects to hope arc?
@@FlynnMegaTenseiAfter Kokichi kills all motivation for the game, Tsumugi had to make a flashback light that would show them Hope's Peak to inspire them to pursue Kokichi.
To add on to point 3, Prologue Rantaro was also surprisingly calm and collected for someone who had only a few years ago at most SURVIVED THE PREVIOUS KILLING GAME where 14 high schoolers were killed. Im sorry but going through an experience like that, its on the level of escaping one of the contraptions in "Saw". Those memories should be burned into his brain and give him PTSD anytime a stuffed bear or something black and white comes into view.
It might just be a plot hole but i always found it interesting how Rantaro acted in the prologue, and it made me question if he really was the "Ultimate Survivor" or if those memories were implanted by the flashback light instead.
Also the "Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juveniles" was in a state of prolonged abandonment in the prologue, suggesting it might have been decades since it was last used. Maybe Team Danganronpa has multiple set locations and the last Killing Game was filmed somewhere else, but its a lot of technology and not to even suggest how much it would cost to create that "End of the world" set piece, just to fit this one location. I dunno how logistical it would be for them to have multiple set pieces, and even if they did, idk why this one was abandoned for so long. If its been decades since the last KG took place then also no way Rantaro survived the last one, and it also means the audition tapes are fake too, and backs up the fact that all the kids had to be kidnapped and brought on set in secrecy.
The show is not as popular as it seems to the outside world. That would explain why the 16 high schoolers had no idea what was going on, and why they only vaguely recognize the Monokubs in name only.
the way how the characters act in the prologues (which we know is the unaltered memories) compared to the audition tapes gives away tsumugis whole "everything is fictional" thing. it's so wild how so much people just took what she said as the truth as if the entire theme of the game doesn't revolve around lies as well.
like i adore tsumugi, but she even lies in her FIRST freetime event, we should not take what she says as an immediate fact.
completely agree, like hello tsumugi is a PROVEN liar but so many people took her words as the truth and believed her without bothering to put the pieces together
I am not smart ):
I think the fact that we don't even know if we can trust the supposed actual truth about the killing game shows how well written the story is.
i agree! i love the story of V3 and definitely feel it's a masterpiece!
@@SensitiveDeku yeah!
you pointed out the contradictions to a t! tsumugi was most definitely lying in my honest opinion. she was just showing those “audition tapes” to make them feel despair most likely, she IS the mastermind after all.
thank you!! ❤️ and yeah i agree i definitely feel she faked the tapes to plunge them deeper into “despair”
One perspective that occurred to me recently was that perhaps tsmugi is just as much a victim to the flashback lights as everyone else. She was given a false narrative that she was the mastermind in all of this from the very start, when in reality she was never a volunteer to begin with, just like the rest of them.
I think Tsumugi has to be immune to the flashback lights effects, there's no other way, the meta narrative in ch.6 would stretch to infinity if even Tsumugi's memories of the outside world were a lie created by the flashback light.
She's the only character who wears glasses, maybe that's the secret to block the memory erasing beam of light directed at you 😅
Just because she acts scared and frightened in the prologue, doesn't mean much, because her entire character from 1-5 is nothing but kind and considerate to the others, especially Gonta. But its all an act by a truly sadistic and cruel person, who is erasing memories and forcing them to kill each other all while smiling and making cheeky anime refrences.
BTW I love Tsumugi, her level of sadism is outstanding, that's the outcome of being the most hardcore Danganronpa fangirl i guess
@@alter_ech0 only character who wears glasses?
gonta gentleman you know
@Xianity-m6q Shhhh, don't ruin my silly headcanon.
I also remembered Gonta wears glasses, even though his eyesight is at a molecular level. That's why I wrote it off at first.
Maybe he really is the ultimate gentleman and is so smart he plays a dumb Tarzan persona to make it fair for the killers to get away with their crimes.
They definitely weren't real, their personalities were either heavily flanderized or just different from their pre-game selves, an example of this being what Kaede said when being kidnapped "It made me think about how bad humanity was" or something like that. Its shows that yes, Kaede had some type of apathy to her character, but not to the extent the audition video showed. Which leads me to believe that Tsumugi was trying her hardest to not activate her cos-pox in the auditions by passing off these fictional interpretations of the characters as real people! (it also explains why we cant hear Shuichi's name in his audition tape!)
Apparently the Japanese just says she has trouble trusting others so this kinda falls flat.
@@clydu91 dang bruh
I think the reason we can't hear Shuichi's name is because if Saihara Shuichi is a fictional character's name, then his real name would be something else. Though, I do believe the tapes are fake and Tsumugi's claims had both truth and lies mixed in.
@@nilsperry04 Plus there's the whole fact that the monocubs fucked up. They really were important to knowing where the lies started.
@@nilsperry04 shuichi introduced himself to kaede in pregame tho
Another thing, the tape dies Shuichi's name if his current name is fake... but in the prologue before the first flashback light, he does present himself as Shuichi Saihara
I think they might have gave them a small memory like their name and forgot to give them the rest
@@Skyluzz The Monokubs literally said they hadn't gotten their first memory yet.
@@niquel5831And they have no reason to lie at this point since, as they say, they planned to erase that "misfire" anyway. Thus, everything seen prior to the first Flashback Light is reliable.
Some things that have struck me as odd:
- The idea that they were such big fans of Danganronpa, you would think the possibility that they’d been “selected” would cross their minds. It’s a killing game, it wouldn’t be a stretch for them to think they would forgo proper methods to bring them there
- Additionally considering they’d been given no implanted memories at this point, shouldn’t they have recognized Rantaro, seeing how he was supposedly a survivor of the 52nd killing game?
- If the audition tapes are in fact fake (which I believe they are) then the same could be speculated about Rantaro’s video and message. I have some more points to make on that.
- Now on the other hand Rantaro seemed to know what was going on. It’s possible Tsumugi used him in a similar way to how Junko used Mukuro (though I suspect Rantaro was never a willing accomplice)
- On that note, one thing that still needs to be solved so to speak, is the voices on the audience that we hear through Keebo. Now this may seem like strong evidence to support Tsumugi’s claim. However, as you pointed out, Tsumugi claims her plan was a “flawless copy” presumably of Junko’s. It’s possible that she previously manipulated people into doing her bidding, like Junko did with the 77th class (side note it’s also odd to me how among other inconsistencies she and any info about Hope’s Peak seem to ignore the fact that the Jabberwock Island killing game took place inside a simulation. And on top of that the same program name is shown the virtual world this cast travels to)
- On one hand it makes sense to assume Tsumugi’s cospox was a lie but on the other hand it’d be tricky to fake so swiftly. However, if she didn’t fake it then her whole story comes crashing down immediately.
Before Tsumugi cosplayed as Kaede, she asked Kaede to turn around
This would let Tsumugi (who is later shown quickly changing into cosplays of people with different body types and skin colors) fake the cospox without Kaede seeing it
@@CGFillertext Maybe. On the other hand I feel like her quick changes seem improbable even by Danganronpa standards.
@@sarahrodrigues4936 Maybe. But she *was* doing a lot of rapid changes in her grand reveal (jumping from one character to the next to the next).
My theory is that she might’ve been allergic to Kaede’s clothing, like the fabric possibly
@@Clockwithhands829 I don't think so. When you really think about it, that claim of "cospox" is the only thing keeping the big plot twist together. They'd have no real reason to believe her if it wasn't there. So she had to have deliberately planned this, and being allergic to Kaede's close isn't really something she could've planned in advance. Plus she made Kaede look away while she was changing (but notably didn't do the same for Kaede) so she could've been applying special makeup or something
Tsumugi migth have been the most predictable mastermind ever, but it was definitely the best one, her talent made a somehow really good combination with the "it was all fake" nature of the whole Danganronpa series during chapter 6, I really whished we would’ve seen everyone’s auditions, or at least just Maki and Himiko's.
Really love this video and the Teruteru one sensitive Deku!
tbh i agree tsumugi was such a unique mastermind and i really liked her (even though she pissed me off LOL) and thanks for watching 🥺 i’m glad you liked my vids!! ily ❤️
I can agree with the predictability of Shirogane being the mastermind, I straight up guessed she was the mastermind when we got her introduction.
I did not expect her at all…
sadly i was spoiled i wouldve loved to feel the shock of learning tsumugi is the mastermind
@@SensitiveDeku i think that it went like this: someone invented a virus (Similar to the meteorite virus that Kaito had) and started spreading it to the world and since it was difficult to cure someone had the idea to hibernate the whole humanity kinda like in "Prometheus" and then leave alive some scientists to figure out the cure; however the scientists in charge ALREADY had the cure since they were the ones that spread the virus in the first place and in all those years they actually spent their time eliminating every trace of everything related to Hope's Peak Academy, The Future Foundation, The Tragedy and The Togami Corporation and when they announced that they "found the cure" they used the Flashback lights to everyone related to Hope's Peak Academy to make them normal people so that they can start Team Danganronpa and their long-running business of Killing Games in the virtual world (Because they know the inhumanity of it and they want people to adore them). What do you think?
And even if her cospox was real I feel like she would have still been able to cosplay and film the tapes
I mean she couldn't cosplay as kaede, but she would be able to cosplay as a fictional version of her
I mean let's say tsumugi was a real person (i'll take markiplier as an example) she wouldn't be able to cosplay as mark because of her cospox, but she would most likely be able to cosplay as darkiplier, right? He's a fictional version of mark (this feels really stupid)
So by that logic she wouldn't be able to cosplay as them (kaede, kaito and shuichi) but she would be able to cosplay as an evil/completely different version of them because that's not the real them (i feel like no one really cares but most people say that it's either she doesn't have cospox or the tapes are real and i feel like it could be both)
Ok enough rambling, great video! even if it was short i feel like it explained it really well! :) and you have a new subscriber because you seem like a great person and creator!
(ok really now, i'll stop rambling, and to anyone who's reading this have a great rest of your day! :)
Exactly what I thought! :D
You explained it very well
oh my god how have I never seen this comment 😭 thank you so much!!
*Audition Theories* of what the character migth have said
Korekiyo: I want an escape of humans, especially from my sister, she’s so annoying!
Angie: I don’t think there’s a god up there, I’m okay participating on this
Tenko: I would like to get a boyfriend!
Miu: I would love to stop being a shy and make some new friends
Ryoma: I want to look like tough guy
this is probably really close to what they would have said :0 I honestly wonder what the other tapes were like..
@@SensitiveDeku I bet that either Tsumugi gave them something completely opposite from what they got or she gave them what they asked but with her "own danganronpa style". Example: Both Kaito and Kaede were okay killing someone, Tsumugi made them do so but she also changed their personalities to heroic ones, Shuichi wanted to be executed and a detective, Tsumugi gave him just the latter. I think Tsumugi analyzed all of the petitions and she gave everyone at least one of the things they asked for.
@@otakutoongamer5616 oh wow that’s honestly such a fresh way to look at things, i never even thought of that! it’s actually really interesting how their alleged “pre-game personalities” matched up with their actions during the killing game somewhat. really interesting perspective! 💙
More:
Keebo:I want to look like a human even though i'm an android
Kokichi:I want to be a person who is honest and hates lies
Kirumi:I don't want to be a maid or a prime minister i rather be a mom
Gonta:Me want to be person who hate bug and not gentleman me rather be nincompoop
@@55685 Your Keebo one would not work because Keebo's pre game was human
Video Korekiyo: "I hate anthropology."
Actual Korekiyo: *Post- PTA scream to the heavens*
Video Himiko: I just love obeying the laws of physics!
Actual Himiko: Magic or i’ll make ur life a tragic
@@n3ther1te
There was a couple other things i wanna add:
The main theme of the game is literally lies and truth. So it would make sense if they left something for us the players to figure out ourselves, even leaving clues for us to find.
Secondly, when Kaede is being kidnapped, she says she was reminded of how rotten the world is. This is a strange sentence because I swear Tsumugi says the current world is a utopia where theres no war or violence. Why would Kaede say this then?
Kaede also said she had a “talent”, very much implying that the flashback lights probably are unable to completely change their personality. Especially since Kaede and Shuichi acted fairly similar to how they do in the main game.
Despite being a past contestant to the previous game, not a single person in the prologue recognized Rantaro. Yet they applied, and some were super fans supposedly. Yet none of then reacted to him. Rantaro, similarly, was just as confused as everyone else.
So my theory is that this is in the Danganronpa world, just years after the Hopes Peak arc. And this is the 53rd actual killing game. They just kidnap random people and its shown to admirers of Junko and the remnants of despair.
This could also just be an alternate universe, which is possible too. Where Danganronpa is actually fictional and it went like they had said, to the point where they actually did killing games. Just in secret. I’m a little doubtful about this one tho.
Said it all. Kodaka himself even said for peeps to go back to the start of the game if they didn't understand the ending, and Tsumugi's lines during graduation in the non killing game mode are awfully sus.
They didn't react to tsumugi either, isn't that weird? She was also in the previous game? (Idk if that's true or.confirmed canon so don't take this stuff to heart)
I have another theory like what if danganronpa was just a "fictional show" im the anime world but it actually was real this whole time. everyone watching danganronpa in the anime world thinks theyre acting but dont know that they were taken somehwere else to actually participate in the killing game, yk what i mean? but i think this theory of mine could be debunked because the participant's family members could recognize them on the tv at first glance OR they altered their physique as well to make them unrecognisable by their relatives
Yeah, I agree with your theory on it being after the Hopes Peak arc. Maybe 30-50 years?
@@SilentAhrenzI'm thinking maybe ten to fifteen years after goodbye despair
This was a great video, I don't see many people talk about if Tsumugi lied. Most people just believe that she told the truth. This might be super long but I've got my own theory.
My theory is that all the V3 characters are ultimate students and the versions of them in the killing game are their true selves.
Firstly Tsumugi makes a lot of bold claims and everyone believes her because of cospox. They come to the realisation that everything is fictional because of cospox and because of this they believe everything else Tsumugi says. But cospox is a very flimsy foundation that can easily be disproven.
Kaede changes in front of Tsumugi and it then says in the dialogue that Kaede turned around when Tsumugi changed. They wouldn't have put that piece of dialogue in for no reason. Many parts of V3 are crafted to push a narrative of truth or lies such as Tsumugi lying about everyone's reactions to being put in the killing game. It also mentioned how Kaede set up the murder without explicitly telling you that she was setting up the murder, this proves that the dialogue has been carefully written especially for important moments such as the masterminds reason for everything being fictional.
If Kaede turned around then Tsumugi would have enough time to cover her whole body in makeup to resemble a rash. She can instantly cosplay as anyone in seconds, this can be seen in the final trial when she perfectly takes the form and voice of other Danganronpa characters. She is clearly skilled in makeup and can apply it in seconds, she changed her skin tone to match up with other characters when she cosplayed and she seems to be carrying around makeup when she was in the final trial, so it's not a stretch to assume that she was carrying makeup and quickly faked a rash while Kaede had her back turned. It even mentions that Tsumugi knew she was going to be questioned before they went to the bathrooms. This might not be the best evidence but Tsumugi was fine with getting changed in front of Angie, Tenko and Himiko in chapter 3 so it's odd that she isn't fine with changing in front of Kaede.
Everyone believed Tsumugi's cospox was real even though it only happened once and the only person who saw it is dead and is an unreliable narrator. Kaede is an unreliable narrator because she set up the murder in front of the player without the dialogue explicitly saying her motivation for murder.
Therefore if cospox is fake then Tsumugi lied and she can cosplay real people. So she could have created the audition tapes by cosplaying as Kaede, Shuichi and Kaito. Once you realise that cospox is fake everything else can also be easily proven fake.
In the audition tapes all of the names are blanked out, this implies that they had different names before. But Kaede and Shuichi say their names in the prologue when they supposedly had their old names. The personalities are also inconsistent, Shuichi is portrayed as a Psychopathic Danganronpa fan but in the prologue he is shown to be caring as he tried to save Kaede by directing her where to go when the exisal was chasing her.
However many characters have different personalities such as Kokichi being more timid or Kirumi looking very timid in the CG. My theory is that they all erased the memories of their talents to escape from the killing game. They are in the same universe as the past two games because Tsumugi's cosplays were fake so it proves that they are in the same universe. They would have known about the tragedy and what monokumas looked like that's why they reacted in fear when they saw the monokubs because they resemble monokuma.
The flashback light can give memories back, some of these memories are real and some of them are false. But there was also a machine that was on Kaedes head that can be seen in the second half of the prologue when they remember they are ultimate's. The implication is that this device was used to erase their memories of the first half of the prologue. So these could be the same devices they used to erase their memories of their talents.
If the characters forgot their talents they would have forgotten all of the memories that come with their talents. This explains all of the characters personalities. If Kokichi forgot his talent then he would have forgotten all of the memories of him playing pranks on people when he was in D.I.C.E. If he forgot these memories then he would be a troublemaker. If Kirumi forgot about being a maid then she would have forgotten her formal attitude she developed because of being a maid.
Tenko acts dramatic and has a low tolerance for pain in the prologue. She says she has a low tolerance for pain in the second class trial. She acts the same way both times she sees the exisals.
She screams, panics and acts dramatic. They wouldn't have done this for no reason. If they were different people then they would have used the dialogue to show how different she was before and after the flashback light instead of copying the dialogue and having the same reaction. This proves that Tenko has the same personality. Tenko had the same personality before she developed her talent. She had extreme emotions such as temper tantrums and it can be assumed that her being hyper and overdramatic are apart of those extreme emotions. Those extreme emotions got her sent to live and train at a temple where she learned Neo Aikido. So if she forgot her talent and all of the memories associated with it then she would still have the same personality traits.
Kaede probably grew to love humanity by seeing everyone happy with her music. She played the piano since she was a baby, so if you take her memories of her talent away then she wouldn't like humanity because she wouldn't have seen everyone so happy at her performances.
Ryoma was probably kidnapped from jail by Tsumugi. It seems hard to believe that one 18 year old girl could break into a highly guarded prison and break out a criminal without being caught but Junko was an 18 year old girl who caused the downfall of humanity so I think it's safe to assume that Tsumugi could break into a prison.
Sorry for the very long comment. I could go into a lot more theories but I don't want to be a nuisance. Once again thank you for making a wonderful video.
oh no you weren’t annoying at all! this was an AMAZING analysis even better than mine!! i was struggling to find a plausible way tsumugi could have faked the cospox, and your answer not only makes logical sense but actually goes well with all the other evidence against Tsumugi’s claims that I compiled in the video! ^^ this was an amazing comment thank you for taking the time to write it! ❤️
@@SensitiveDeku Thank you but you shouldn't put your video down, it was really good.
@@greenskullix1431 Your Analysis was Amazing and has a nice thorough explanation on the game as whole
Plus imo it's likely the best theory I've seen so far for V3
Btw i have a possible theory that maybe the dead v3 characters aren't completely dead similar to DR2
@@frisk8632 Thank you so much that's very kind. And I would love to hear your theory, it sounds very interesting.
Another thing that also suggests Tsumugi was lying about was pregame Rantaro in Chapter one. He was so quick to oppose and questioning who’s behind this why they are there when he should’ve been understanding if what Tsumugi said is true
Also it doesn’t make sense that no one else recognized him if he was supposedly the Ultimate Survivor and the others were supposedly huge fans of Danganronpa
I think even Tsumugi being the mastermind is a lie. She just believes that she's the mastermind because of the flashback lights. But, in reality, she's just another victim being held against her will. Shuichi even points out the relief on her face after she lost, indicating that she really didn't enjoy it as much as she claimed.
Keep in mind that one of the things that Shuichi caught onto was that one of the punishments that one of the surviving students would have to be facing (he said that it was the sacrifices, but I think that was a mistake on his part) is becoming the mastermind for the next killing game.
I’ve seen this theory around before and I reaaallly like it! I love the idea that Tsumugi was a victim in this whole situation.
@@SensitiveDeku especially when you notice Tsumugi is just as afraid as everyone else in the Prologue. Sure it could be her acting, but if she was a member of Team Danganronpa why would she need to be there at that moment outside of keeping the player from suspecting her for not being in that scene?
@@dustyfedora She'd be mad that the monokubs aren't on script and that the Ultimate don't have their uniforms on. Especially knowing their memories were about to be replaced. I'm sure it was a active decision made to include Tsumugi in the prologue.
You've got to love how V3 asks the audience to question it in it's entirety. High level writing from the team.
totally agree! but according to some people V3 is “horribly written” lololol
When memory altering flashlights are in the mix, pretty much anything the mastermind says is the truth should be taken with a boulder of salt
Even Prologue Tsumugi didn’t know what was happening at that point. I think there’s a different mastermind that made her into the one for the Killing Game.
the whole ending of v3 is so so so interesting just because it can be taken in so many ways! another theory i saw was about the whole necronomicon motive in chp 3. if it was used, _how_ would have a dead character been brought back? it's so weird right? none of the motives are necessarily lies, because they do always lead to something. the card that reveals "the real world" really did work and showed a fabricated version of the world. with that in mind, how was team dangan going to go forward with the necronomicon? this is where the neo world program theory comes in. i find it difficult to believe that the entirety of japan's population would have agreed to a killing game on-air, and what i think team dangan would've done to sate the public's disagreement is the NWP (neo world program). all 16 students put in the NWP and forced to play the killing game, and when anyone would die they'd either wake up in the real world or be in a comatose state until the end of the killing game. this would it make so that bringing back any of the dead students is possible during chp 3. i dunno, it's a weird theory but the whole necronomicon thing is also a strange motive. what do you think? i thought i'd throw this out here lol
Neo World immediately came to mind when the necronomicon appeared, but there are zero evidences of anything in this game being a simulation
I thought the exaggerated technology was evidence, since the Monobeasts and Monokuma's super powers were explained by DR2 being a simulation, but then Another Episode came and showed that super advanced robots can exist in real life
Another theory that I think makes sense is that they would simply get someone that looks like the dead participant and give them the participant's memories. It'd a lot harder to do but it fits the rest of the story
I guess they refrained from actually using the necronomicon to avoid giving an explanation, but the mere existence of it is pretty confusing since it brought no lasting effects to the plot (it wasn't even used as a motive), so it just raised unecessary questions
Another thing: looking from an writing perspective, the simulation thing would ruin the ending
The characters were willing to give up their own lives to end the killing game since it is, you know, a killing game. I know about the possibility of them being forced to play the game and, yes, that's already bad, but the deaths are the main fuel behind the character's decision. If there were no consequences and everyone got to live after the game ended, what would be the purpose of ending Danganronpa?
1:44 You can see a little pink below his eyes... I dont know cause thats how it is. But dont you think She was trying as hard as possible to hide her cosplox?
I'm pretty confident that's a blush.
A theory I have, lmao
So in Tsumugi's research lab, the flooring down the back looks pretty similar to the ones we see in the audition tapes. I reckon that she had fabricated those tapes there Also adding on the the fact that she easily could've cosplayed them, as you had said in your video.
Amazing analyse btw !! I totally agree with everything you said here.
I also don't get how stereotyped the pg au's have gotten. Because if they were "yandere, soft, obsessed etc" why would the mastermind even bother to change their personalities anyway? What's the despair in that? Why not just use robots or something? - So yes. I agree with the fact that they weren't here by choice !
just reading from the title, i don’t think the audition tapes are real. it might be evidence to support tsumugi’s claim is true. maybe tsumugi was also part of the flashback light thing thing whatever it was too. i don’t have anything to support my idea just a little guess before the video starts lol
Lol nice name
Im drawing myself as a chibi and this came up right in time :)
are u gonna post it 🥺
@@SensitiveDeku i will if it actually turns out, hands are so hard T^T
Tsumugi’s talent may be based on her perception. Hence her convo with Junko. Mondo weird.
I HAVE AN ADDITION!
The thing is, tsumugi said she can only cosplay a fictional character and if she tries to cosplay someone that is real, she'll get the cospox. She said in the last class trial that shuichi and the others are fictional. If shuichi, kaede and the others are fictional, how did she even get the cospox when she tried to cosplay kaede in the first place if kaede is "fictional"?
This info is not mine, i got it from a comment in a Danganronpa video, i forgot who you are but for real, if you are the person who proposed this info, thank you so much for letting us know about this stuff ☺️
I'm pretty sure the "cospox" thing was another one of her lies. I'm not saying the allergic reaction itself was faked, but the actual cause was probably something different from "I break out in a rash if I dress up as a real person".
I'll give my two cents in a random video on the internet just because
There are a lot of things that point not only to the tapes being false, but she also lying about the fact that they aren't ultimates, and maybe even about V3 being the 53rd killing game.
Let's talk about the tapes first: The tapes are recorded in an extremely strange angle for audition tapes, which is consistent with the idea that she may have recorded all in her lab. Normally, in auditions like that the camera would be facing the person speaking at, more or less, the same height as their eyes. Being a reality show it could be even the case that they would prefer that you would record your own audition and send it to them, meaning it would be even more bizarre to have them all with the same backgrounds. Also, about the prologue I believe time doesn't add up in addition to the evidence you've brought up, I don't think that there was enough time to record the tapes.
Them not being ultimates: that is clearly a lie. She claims everything about their talents was put into their brains and that they are ordinary people, however, there are some talents that no matter how much you stress it, doesn't make any sense. I'll begin with the ones I believe should have an argument to support that it was brainwash, but it's still strange. Shuichi's deductive skills, Angie's artworks and Miu's inventions don't add up as being the result of them receiving their talents out of nowhere, because although it may be plausible to insert information, those require specific skills that can only be met with practice and experience. But these could still have an argument for being fake, however now we enter the ones that simply don't add up in any way shape or form: Himiko's, Kirumi's and Maki's talents. I'll start with Kirumi's: There are a lot of things that a maid need to know how to do that requires dexterity, finesse and muscle memory, things she wouldn't be capable of without proper physical training, same goes for Himiko's talent, anyone who've ever dealt with magic tricks should know that the prestidigitation and dexterity required for the tricks, not only for sleight of hand, but all sorts of tricks, is also something that can only be achieved with proper physical training, but the worst is Maki. Maki is shown to be extremely fit and precise, and in more than one time she shows she's able to move wicked fast. There's absolutely no way that that is the result of a talent being implanted in her head out of the blue, if her body never did any of that before she simply wouldn't be capable of doing so, no amount of fake information would be able to do that and even if they chose a volunteer physically fit to play the ultimate assassin (which would be speculation to assume so, since we have no evidence for that), what she does is too specific to be something anyone could do even if they were physically fit. I would put Ryouma and Tenko here too, but we never saw them using their talents during the main game, so I don't think they would be a good example.
But I would even go as far as to say that even Kokichi's talent and way of thinking don't add up to that narrative, but honestly, that would be hard to argue concretely.
Lastly, the 53rd killing games: No way that makes sense. Every iconic reference to previous killing games always focus on the two games before this, save for a few throwaway lines from Monokuma and the Monokubs, there's absolutely no reference to no other killing games. Between them saying a random thing about a previous execution or something similar and having a entire virtual world, a pattern on the window which is Sayaka on a show, or even the iconic sword, those things aren't even close to comparable. Plus, Monokuma and the Monokubs say weird shit that makes no sense all the time, and some of those things were proven to be deliberate lies to fuck with the participants of the killing game and misdirect them on purpose. I don't think this was the 3rd killing game per se, because I do believe there's evidence that might have been others between the second game and this one, or even more than one happening at the same time in parallel with each other, but I find it hard to believe that there were 53rd of them, specifically when certain things that makes a comeback are explicitly said to be the second time they appear. You mean to tell me that in 53 installments, only in the last one they thought to replicate the execution with the space rocket of the first one. They didn't thought of it not even in the anniversaries with round numbers, like the 50th anniversary for example? Nope, I refuse to believe that a show would do that.
Anyway, that last one was more like a minor one, but it has bothered me forever now. The first two were more important. Tsumugi lied about everything and her story doesn't make any sense specifically compared to the other games. I could go on and even say how much this makes the story of the games contradict themselves unless you assume Tsumugi lied (which seems to be the case since the game provided extremely good evidence), but it's now 2 in the morning where I live, so I have to go to sleep even though I'm obsessed with talking about danganronpa right now.
Anyway, have a nice day whoever read this thing I wrote till the end.
the thing about v3 is that it would be hard to trick us players into thinking it’s a game that has relation to the other pets of the series without making it seem like a third game. We knew something was off because of the V, but making it V3 confused us to the point where we could not really figure out what was going on from the get go
What if DR1&2 are actually fiction as the Danganronpa video game exists in their world and the Danganronpa game show was made in their universe as a copy of the video game, thats why Tsumugi can cosplay as 1 & 2 characters and not V3 characters. The tapes are most likely fake like the flashback light “memories”
I don't blame Kaede cuz if I lived in a world full of danganronpa fans that enjoy irl killing games Id have no faith too
After Watching the whole video, you make some really good points! Especially when you said tsumugi may have made them. Also, I do really love this format! I enjoy all of your analysis videos! Keep up the great work!
thanks so much for the feedback shree! i’m really trying to improve my dictation in my vids (cuz i feel i sound like a dumbass LMAO) but i’m really happy you enjoy my vids anyway 🥺 YOURE THE BESTT
@@SensitiveDeku Aw no problem!! And; NO UUU 💕💕
Very nice video, dude! ❤ I agree with the evidence you've presented on why Tsumugi might be pretending to be the main characters in each of the audition tapes
thank you so much!! ❤️
Thanks for talking about this. It's amazing to me how the majority of players completely missed the possibility she was lying.
I never thought of it before, but there is a contradiction about the audience of the game. Tsumugi claims that the world is peaceful with no wars or serious crime. It’s basically a utopia or very close to becoming one, a far better world than the one in Danganronpa or our own. And yet the audience wants to keep seeing hope triumph over despair? Yes, there are those that like Despair endings, but there seems to be an awful lot of support for Hope. What need does a utopia have for hope when they’ve already reached an era of peace and harmony? Why hope when you’ve reached your goal for a better world? We like seeing hope and fiction because of how escapist it is to our world and how it inspires us to do better than our current selves. So what use is hope if you are your best self?
Ontop of this the entirety of the game is themed around lying, including down to who the protagonist even was on the case. Kodaka himself told people on twitter to go back to the beginning if they were confused about the ending, and additionally, Tsumugi says some pretty strange lines that suggest the whole thing is setup in that one non-killing game mode you can play upon completing V3 before graduating.
I genuinely feel she faked almost everything the whole tapes like they genuinely felt so fake and far fetched like how do people believe them for face value? So yeah I feel like it was all faked and that no one(except Tsumugi as she was just Tsumugi) enjoyed or wanted to be part of Danganronpa, plus why does anyone trust Tsumugi's word???? It's bullshit does the fanbase even acknowledge this??
Yeah I feel like the tapes being so drastically different from the people we’ve come to know is a little too convenient for her case. It feels more like a shock value type of thing.
@@sarahrodrigues4936 yeah, I do think that it was a TV show but no one participated by choice
@@ThatEnbyAkutagawaKinnie i think so too
5:00 Why is that even a question? It was either Tsumugi and/or the monocubs, whom recently dressed them all up.
It's not far fetched to assume that after the first flachback light, they simply had them dressed back in their original cloths.
I've actually recently started writing fanfic for the first time because of this game. I will admit that I've kind of cheapened the plot of the game, because in my head I desperately want these kids to come out happy since they deserve so much more.
I've tried to make it so that the truths and lies kind of meld together. Regarding the tapes, I wrote them so that they were legitimate, but altered. The thing that stuck out to me was how Shuichi's name was censored to imply that he's a totally different person.
Another thing I've done is that the validity of the survivors' past is in question because of Tsumugi, but in actuality their memories are more similar to reality with some embellishments. Eg. If these are normal kids that are given talents, Maki wouldn't be an assassin. However, she'd still be from an orphanage. That sort of thing.
I kind of accidentally advertised my fanfic, but I'd like to contribute to the conversation that there are elements of truths and lies to be had in all forms of discussion. For my case, I treated the Killing Game as a lie as though it's the survivors series. With those who get to win and leave retaining all memories (including their talents) from the game, whereas those eliminated come back as their supposedly pregame selves.
Also I'm a huge Saimatsu sucker, so I'm doing all I can to imagine them all having a happy ending XS
i’d love to read your fanfic! especially since i’m saimatsu trash too x) if you’ve posted it feel free to leave the name of it or a link and i’ll gladly add it to my reading list!
@@SensitiveDeku Tried replying twice but I can't send a link I guess
It's on Wattpad
The Awakening: A Saihara and Akamatsu Story
Ironically I don't use their last names XP
@Phoebe LaRose
This is less about the survival of the game than the perception of how much of the events have actually transpired. As in, the words coming out of Tsumugi's mouth can be taken at face value. Or maybe she's lying about everything. Or maybe there's a level of truth behind her lies and vice versa. Which is why I like the ending where it really plays with your thoughts and understanding up to that point, and how it could change when going over it.
My route about it is definitely cheapens the game, I will admit. But I feel like there's significance to thinking of how even when things are fake, there are real effects. In my fanfic, it deals with that issue in a psychological manner. Granted in a mild way, because my focus is ultimately a Saimatsu fanfic XD
@Phoebe LaRose don't worry! Dialogue is important ^^
also I wanted to add in shuichi tape it’s implied that shuichi is not his real name but in the prologue he introduces himself as shuichi
I honestly love how insane this ending is and how we can sit here and dissect it and discuss it in so much detail. You hit on all the points I think about whenever my brain wanders over to good ol V3 💜💜 My biggest question is how tsumugi faked those cospox though...maybe I’m dumb but I can’t wrap my head around how she made herself pink like that in front of kaede on the spot when the whole disease is fake. ALSO THAT DAMN EDIT OF HER WAIST SJDJSJDJD YOU AINT SLIICCCKKK ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO FROM MY KING 🥰💜💙 I don’t mind the shorter videos!
Someone else pointed out how Tsumugi had Kaede turn around when she was changing into her clothes. When you consider how with her talent she was able to practically transform from one person into a completely different person in terms of size and complexion in a matter of moments, it’s not outside of the possibility she just used makeup to fake a rash in the seconds that Kaede wasn’t looking at her change
shuichi: I would love to be apart of danganronpa
Me:Same
4:40 We don’t know that for sure because there was no proof of them using that and no proof of them not using that before they arrived
“That was a lie! Because the real Kaito said..”
2:08
*Terraria noise*
personally i think they all have the same personalities pregame they were just flabbergasted and tsumugi was like: mhmmm imma make em seem like they wanna be in dang it grandpa
Could you make an analysis on Tsumugi herself
idk if i’ll do her justice but i’ll definitely try! ❤️
The prologue definitively confirms the audition tapes are fake. The Monokubs confirm no one had their memories tampered with prior to their first "awakening" due to a production error on their part.
That means Kaede's memory of being abducted off the street is real. No one intervened because everyone knew what it was for. This is the "rotten world" Kaede was referring to.
Kaito looks insane in his video and it actually scares me
AND ANOTHER THING!
Tsumugi's entire claim of "cospox" relies on the notion that the Hope's Peak Danganronpa world and the Danganronpa V3 outside world are on different planes/levels of fiction and reality, with V3 supposedly being more "real world" akin to our prime reality. Hence the countless obvious references to other media, including several *directly by name* mainly by Tsumugi and Monokuma themselves (Monokuma's Hedgehog rant, Tsumnugi talking about Doraemon, etc.), creating the idea that everything that exists as fictional entertainment in their world is the same as ours. This primes us to believe her when she says Hope's Peak is pure fiction even within the game's universe.
Yet even that has to be tossed out the window as any sort of proof to back her claims because Hope's Peak Danganronpa is ALSO chock full of these references being made by name. We have a Jason Statham fangirl, a dude who prays to King Kai, a guy who named his gang after a JoJo's stand, the main character claiming he doesn't *have* a Stand...so clearly, that world shares a lot of "entertainment" in common with ours as well.
Now sure, that could easily mean HP is fiction in a real-lite setting to V3 the same as both are to us, but why does Tsumugi's "Ultimate Cosplay" amount to borderline instantaneous shapeshifting if, say, Ultimate talents are all fake? No, the Monokumas don't take away from that. Despite these character skins all bearing different shapes, colors, and sizes, including some being shorter than Tsumugi herself, clearly the switches ARE NOT happening too fast for her to adapt because *she emulates each voice perfectly the moment the character's on and never flubs or gets the wrong voice.* So we don't know whether they're the ones actually changing her skins or they're just providing the smoke screen so the classmates (and the player) don't get a quick flash of naked Tsumugi. Whichever case may be, what's abundantly clear is whose team exactly BUILT the Monokumas.
Fun fact of the day:
Did you know Leon Kuwata takes naps when he's stressed/depressed/in a bad mood? Now you do.
So he could have taken a nap after the situation with Sayaka
I just assumed they were brainwashed multiple times the first time they were there cuz we already know they can brainwash people pretty easily but those machines. I wasn't sure if the original personalities were there or they were brainwashed. I just assumed the tapes were real.
But if they're original selfs was rebrainwashed.but at the end of the game three people survived, and went into the real world so what would happen to them they would be famous of course but not all the fans like them though for ignoring the reality show not sure about their families though if they had any.
Another thing that disproves cospox being real is monokuma. Tsumugi’s Junko cosplay is holding a Monokuma in one of her sprites. This is cosplaying a non-fiction character and should have given her cospox if she was telling the truth.
Personally, I just like to think the audition tapes were real because I like imagining little pregame scenarios in my head. I also like spending 3 hours thinking of what their pregames would be like. 10/10 would recommend. However, great theory!
great video as always! its a good add on to another yt video "busting the mastermind's lies because im a bored" if you havent seen it lol i also love the idea that tsumugi used her talent to create the tapes. looking forward to more of your dr videos in this format ❤️
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2:30 lol, Gundham's hamsters are just randomly floating
is no one going to talk about
the metal wired hats
OMGEHFJWJD WAITTTTT A SURPRISE?? AAAYEEEE
Ah i remember ch 6 the memory when they happy being choose is come from the last flashback light is showing memories after memories with a bit delayed ( when they investigating the last mystery ) and different with the prologue. V3 character don't have prologue memory what players see but they have the fake memory
I think the main reason it's so divisive is the fact that on the surface it wipes out everything that happened in previous cannon. But the ending really did leave a lot of fascinating mysteries about the game, the other games, and the series as a whole that it leaves to the player to answer for themselves. In my opinion it was a little clunky in it's execution but it was still a very fitting way to end the series as a whole, until the next Danganronpa game of course.
What i dont know how to prove is kiibo inner voices and NicoNicoDouga style LiveChat
Great video!! Keep doing your thing.
I've seen some other comments saying the same thing but I'm gonna make my comment. No, I don't believe Tsugumi was lying. While yes, lying may be fitting for her character in this specific scenario she has no reason to. Plus the memories of being kidnapped were part of the fake memories, adding more to the fake ultimate hunt plot of the ultimate students being hunted down and kidnapped. On top of all this, the game clearly shows that people in the world of danganronpa are crazy enough to worship it around the world, so it's not out of the ordinary that some people ate simply crazy enough to want to participate in this killing game whether they die or not. This is the truth I'm sticking to unless there's some proof that REALLY convince me.
Here’s some proof that might convince you. you claim that them remembering them being kidnapped was a false memory but Tsumugi mentions that they would lose their memory and identity after the flashback light was used and keade says they were kidnapped before the flashback light was used also we’re supposed to believe the prologue was their original identity before they got brainwashed and that’s when Keade mentions being kidnapped.
I would have preferred that everyone get punishment in the final judgment, rather than tsumugi changing the vote to her and keebo, and continuing like, "I don't think your friends are going to vote for me" preferring to vote badly to end it all, so keebo It would motivate them that just voting for tsumugi everything would end, then they would vote for her but that they would be wrong because she was never the mastermind and she was just incubating someone.
Just for the sake of danganronpa.
I mean, for all we know, it could have just been the monokubs messed up what origin story they were supposed to use for the prolouge. They used the "kidnapped ultamites that have surpressed their memories." Story instead of the "im an ultamite, but have no clue whats going on." Flashback light they were supposed to start with. Thus the bears having to improve why they're a script ahead
Even Tsumugi being the mastermind could be a lie for all we know. Those videos could've been staged through use of the flashback lights too.
this is why I already know Everytging about V2 and V3. I watch videos even know they’re “spoilers” (and yes, I’ve only watched V1)
If the outside world was so peaceful and had no wars why would kayayaday say she has no faith in humanity
I'm literally here because I was slowly coming to the realization that maybe some of the saddest moments were scripted so I hope it wzs fake cuz now I'm literally so happy Hah
Is Pre-game Shuichi really THAT out of character though? He has pretty much the same basic personality and demeanor, just he's a fan of danganronpa.
Always made me feel like even if the characters are "fake", its only specific memories that were changed, and their basic nature and personality are largely the same.
, with the first point they could of used the flashback lights to implant that they were kidnapped
not really, considering the fact that at that point no one had been touched with a flashback light yet, not to mention it makes no sense to implant memories of them being kidnapped just to strip them of those same memories moments later.
hey i really like this please do more dr videos. i just finished the series and v3 left me feeling some type of way. i can't believe kodaka would more or less shit on his own creation which is what it felt like - in a way. i love that v3 is about lies and truth and asks us to look back on the other games and figure out what is real and not. since i played it all in a month i want your thoughts on dr1 where idr when but i have a gif one of the later chapters the camera in naegis room starts flickering like it's glitched. how deep do you think this is and what it means?? how valid is v3s claim?
glad you enjoyed the vid! and yeah v3’s ending definitely left me shaken up; and as for the scene in dr1 i’ll look into it ‘cuz it sounds intriguing..! i’ll see if I can do a vid on it
Well,i believe that the tapes are real but everyone has their own personal look,and nice video 💗💗💗
thank you sm for watching! ❤️
@@SensitiveDeku no problem♡ i love your videos a lot,i always watch in my free times
There is one elephant in the room everyone should address:
The auditions do say that "killing everyone" and "doing the most gruesome murders" is a possibility. However, this contradicts important rules of the Killing game: You only have a limited amount of people to kill, and after that, you can only hope to get other students killed by getting away with a murder.
The auditions do not take into account the main rules of Danganronpa, which makes me think they're not trustworthy in the slightest.
It’s very possible that after everyone auditioned, they got picked up as kaede recalls because they were chosen
she doesn’t recall them getting “picked up” though, she recalls literally being grabbed off the side of the road on her way to school and being forced into a car. and how does it make any logical sense she can vividly recall being kidnapped but doesn’t have a semblance of an idea how she wound up in a killing game, when the “audition tape” depicts her as being very eager to be apart of it?
@@SensitiveDeku its semantics to argue over picked up and kidnapped. i meant the same thing.
Also she woke up in a locker and said that was the first thing she remembered. When the monokubs transported (or whatever other word is better here) them all to the realm of killing, any past memories all became fabricated.
Either that or theres just a massive hole right there between what was really true before the game officially started and what wasn't. Idk anymore
I don’t agree but that’s a fair theory ❤️
But wait! the videos that were distributed to them in the Chapter 2 were real or not? because if they were real, perhaps some things might become clear. Although I can see that it might have been fake, but there is something that makes me want to believe it.
In addition, when Tsumugi described the real world is *so peaceful* in the literal sense, I doubt that was one of her lies. If it was true, why at the beginning of the game the group of students were kidnapped to play a killing game, can we really believe that it was "so peaceful"?
Wait a sec lemme point something out lol I’m just very veryyy confused, DRV3 confused me sooo much in general. But remember how you pointed out that kaede and shuichi were kidnapped which contradicts the video clips that tsumugi showed them? But wasn’t them being kidnapped part of the fake plot line/story? The plot line that team danganronpa created?
If tsumugi is lying it means everyone is alive
PLEASE do more of these!! i loved this video sm!! 💕
3:28 hey wait a minute...
Why does Kiibo look more like a human here??
Becouse he was a human
Ooooo this one finna be interesting
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@@SensitiveDeku Hi !! 💖💖
Every characters that Tsumugi cosplayed in trial 6 had the symbol "V" on their right eye and "3" on their left eye. So I really don’t think the audition tapes were faked by Tsumugi.
Maybe they actually said that under the influence of a flashlight.
Thats most likely
After rewatching the Prologue of V3, I noticed how Kaede(?, there might be another charac saying this) keeps saying “If you are the Monokubs, does that mean-“, but she keeps getting cut off. What if she was about to say “If you are the Monokubs, does that mean you are the children of Monokuma” or something
I’m over 3 years late to this video but I gotta say, this theory makes a lot of sense. Honestly, I know a lot of people aren’t really fans of Tsumugi being the mastermind due to how predictable it is, but you gotta admit that the lies she tells makes the story much more interesting and compelling which makes the player really think about what went down in certain parts of the story and whatnot. That’s part of the reason why I love V3: it’s very clearly centered around lies (Kokichi and Tsumugi both contribute to this), so you never actually know if what anything that happened was the truth or not.
What if after the auditions, Team Danganronpa tracked down the students they selected and kidnapped them out of nowhere rather than just kindly informing them that they got in and normally transporting them? Sure, that would suggest that they would also remember auditioning during the prologue since they still had all their memories, but this could be explained by either them 1. them still not realizing during the prologue that they’re in this school because of the audition or 2. their memories of just the audition could’ve been wiped before they woke up, since Team Danganronpa always had access to the memory wiping stuff, I think? Or they just altered the students’ memories to make them think they were just randomly kidnapped, since them knowing that they wanted to be in the killing game obviously would’ve messed things up?
i have some reasons why the tape might be real correct me if i’m wrong when the tape was recorded they could have signed up from different schools and when they got kidnapped they didn’t know that would happen so of course they were scared but the reason they were kidnapped was to be in the killing game they signed up for
I like 90% of this theory, but I have to wonder how this show even exists if it's comprised of kidnapped children. It's not impossible, but a lot needs to happen for an illegal show to work no matter how powerful Team Danganronpa might be.
Listen not only this but explain Nagito's hand and Hajime old and kamikura. All these were the fabrication versions from the neo world program she could have just observed lacking the real versions we see from later media. All these were broadcasted and therefore these would be the versions she'd have seen. We know mokotos sister is real but she's also absent along with junkos twin sister despite being referenced a million times by tsumugi. Everything tsumugi didn't know about wasn't shown. But if it was all a "story" you would think she'd know. Along with my last point, in 2 we learn that everyone will become "Junko" when the despairs leave the neo world program. We know this to be a lie because v3 exists. But tsumugi would have access to the neo world program information which would make her view of Junko available to her the fake Junko from 2. While the first game Junko is very different from the 2. We know the second version lied. So so would tsumugi's version.
I'd also like to add that Miu altered everyone's avatar in the neo world program. Meaning as long as tsumugi copied the avatars instead she could fake these videos.
So, I'm not the only one who saw some flaws in Shirogane's claims.
I think this is an amazing theory
But I have a question if the tapes aren't real why did we see kaede in what seems like a helmet? And what if she simply made fake memories of them being kidnapped? I still think this is an amazing theory and honestly I believe it but those questions are bugging me
She didn’t actually have the helmet vision until after the first Flashback Light. It’s more likely that was an implanted memory.
What fake memories of them being kidnapped. They don't remember themselves being kidnapped. All they know is that they supposedly auditioned to be on the show. The helmet is only shown after the false memories were implanted. I think that was a memory he had a flash of of before she had her memories changed.
well,just a friendly reminder, with the flash back lights,there can be implanted new memories, and like other kg their memories can be erased.
But then again their memory of the audition tapes could’ve been erased and them being kidnapped memory could’ve been altered
Couldn't she just make a flashback light before they got their outfits that makes them believe they are auditioning. Then record it Then they'd do the audition andthe next light would overrite it.
I also believe that. Theese tapes aren't real and also the personality switch because if you analyze the characters personality in the game and in the prologue they are tecnically de same the only difference that the flashback lights did added was the talents because even kaede and shuici said that they are just average high school students and when kaede meet with everyone and monosuke mentions the ultimate talents kaede said tha she did had a hobbie but dind't consider it an ultimate . meaning she dind't have an ultimate talent and if the swich personality was real than shuici and kaede wouldn't present thenselves as kaede and shuici before the fist flashback ligth.
Hi, I have my next theory:
Tsumugi lied a LOT. She did lied not only these audition tapes, but also Rantaro's tapes. Pretending to be him in order to make sure he went to the right place in order to get the first kill done.
Tsumugi can cosplay them, that's why on chapter 3 monobears offer the resurrection ritual. She was agreed by cosplaying one of the dead players if the ritual came to be completed.
My theory is that is not an alternative universe. Is the same universe post danganronpa 3 anime. When Naegi is adult and society is recovered. But some despair still remains. A cosplayer tried to cosplay Enoshima Junko, and get caught with the character, creating a new despair that made them capture 15 students, to start this killing game, rantaro is possible that was a hope's peak academy that knew about Monokuma and the new killing games, so he get caught on purpose just to get inside and fight mastermind, sadly, Tsumugi was able to get this and make sure to kill him first as the biggest threat for her purposes.
Tape keade ;-; I hope it's not real in this world
Then...how was she able to cosplay the characters from danganronpa 1 and 2? Let's entertain that they (the events such as the tragedy and hopes peak academy) were real, right? So cosplaying as Junko, Hajime, Byakuya, Hiyoko, Mikan, etc. should have given her the cosplay chicken pox thingy, because she can't cosplay as real people, right? If danganronpa 1 and 2 weren't real, then she is able to cosplay them perfectly.
Unless...everyone from danganronpa 1 and 2 died...? Does her cosplay chicken pox rule extend to death?
I dont think they were real bc Tsumigi is the Ultimate Cosplayer and she got those people involved. Its just an opinion, no hate
Maybe tsumugi lied about the reason of her cospox, and the problem is that she gets cospox when she's not cosplaying someone else, meaning she's kaede's twin sister. That's why when she cosplayed kaede, she was kind of being herself and not cosplaying anyone else.
No matter how much time passes I will always love your videos ;u; my sweet king..💜💜💘🥰
I just want to know if their game selves are their true selves because if not, then that means kokichi isn't actually a prankster, he's realistically a shy dude. I don't like the opposite personality theory because then we'd never get to see the characters true selves due to the fact that Tsumugi created fake personas for them.