DELETED Engineer Dialogue in Opening Scene TRANSLATED in the Script
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2023
- In todays video I’ll be covering the translation of the opening dialogue between engineers that was unfortunately deleted from Prometheus. In the theatrical version, we only whiteness a lone Engineer approaching the waterfall.
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However in the blu ray edition, multiple Engineers participate in the sacrifice ceremony. This deleted scene may be the most important scene in the franchise but there is a deeper hidden layer it. The Early Prometheus script actually has a dialogue between Engineers in this scene that reveals a few mysteries from the movie.
This extended conversation between Engineers only appears in the ealy Prometheus script and it was removed even from the blue ray deleted scene.
This extended opening with the translated dialogue sheds light on the Engineer mythology and the reasons they created humanity and later decided destroy it.
I always felt like engineer scenes were unusually short as if the production team really wanted to edit them out for some reason.
However, the deleted material explains some of the Engineers actions and motivations in the movie that otherwise would seem confusing.
The following passage is taken from the Early Prometheus script that was highly edited by the studio and as a result many enginners scenes and dialogues were unfortunately cut. However this early script can still be found online and it even appears in the official Prometheus documentary.
The box that the elder Engineer has in the script is actually a cup or a bowl that has a smaller cup with a gold ish liquid inside. The elder engineer referes to it as the blood of our lord which is later revealed in the script to be the blood of the first deacon, a god like creature portrayed on the mural that the Engineers worshiped.
When Prometheus crew entered the temple, we can barely see the obscure craving on the wall depicting a xenomorph like creature that is actually an ancient Engineer diety that they were trying to resurrect.
In the movie, right in front of the deacon mural, we saw a green crystal, however instead of this crystal, there was suppose to be the bowl from the beginning of the movie, the same bowl that contain the blood of the Engineer lord, the first deacon. There are a few behind the scene photos with this bowl instead of the green crystal and this bowl also appears in the trailer, confirming that the deacon and its blood were supposed to play a much bigger role in the movie.. However, because the studio decided to cut out the Engineer storyline all major elements related to engineers were removed or replaced.
So who is the first deacon, why Engineers considered this creature their lord why its blood allowed them to create life on other planets and procreate? Let’s first answer these questions before we review the rest of the deleted scene.
The Elder Engineer also says “For we cannot create as the gift was stripped from us long ago.” referring to the fact for some reason Engineers lost their ability to reproduce, which brings us to the most interesting part of this video.
To fully understand what the elder said and answer these questions we need to look into the Prometheus documentary that actually explain the entire history of Engineers and their complex relationship with humans.
The official Prometheus documentary also reveals why Engineers lost their ability to reproduce. For a few seconds the documentary show somethings called the master narrative that not only clarifies the engineer lore but also explains why engineers created humanity and why they potentially decided to end it.
By looking at the master narrative, this is what we are able to read
Their civilization meaning the Engineers civilization is millions of years old.
Once Engineers expressed themselves as humans do, taking pleasure in music, color and story, but they’ve long since learned to see in more dimensions than we do. Their arts and ornaments exist on planes imperceptible to human senses. Their constructions look dark and grim to us, but the Engineers’ eyes see far more than our own.
From the alien master narrative, we learned that Engineer lost their ability to reproduce because they started procreating with technology and eventually their biology changed to the point that they could not reproduce naturally..Which is the reason they had to use the blood of the first deacon, their version of God to create new life and procreate.
The early script explains who the first deacon creature was but before we get to it, let’s review the rest of the deleted opening scene.
In the opening sequence Engineers created humanity using the blood of their God, which brings a questions who was this deacon deity that is also portrayed on the mural.
In the scene when the crew enters the temple David translates Engineer writings on the walls and reveals the translation to Weyland. - Фільми й анімація
Prometheus needs to be rereleased, with all the original ideas reinstated, new footage, new scenes, perhaps different ending, even if it is 4 hours long, it should be called "Prometheus - the original story". This will bring the franchise back.
you spoke for me.
@@TipToe67 And Me!
Nothing will help the stupidity of the so called 'scientists' on the Prometheus. Dumbest characters in cinematic history.
They should also explain why people run in a straight line when a rolling ship is coming toward them
Yes
I can think of no other film being made so much less interesting through it's editing process. So bizarre. There were so many cool and unique ideas and they just straight up removed 95% of them. It's no wonder the series fizzled out. They just weren't allowed to take risks and the risky moves were the only reason that they wanted to do it in the first place.
Right? I have this vision of the editing and production team relentlessly trying to be breathtakingly clever, far more clever than their audience. They forgot they were making a movie for entertainment, and instead made a testament to their own cleverness. So vain.
@@tobystewart4403 agreed. i'm not sure if it was them or the writers trying to be clever or if it was studio interference but either way what we got was very disappointing.
Good call...that said, I do truly love Prometheus! It had such a massive and grandiose scope to it with the ideas expressed in the film...that said, my goodness did I ever loathe the next next one...Alien Covenant. What a pile of shit that film was...
Sometimes complexity can ruin a good story. The insatiable need to have everything verbalized takes away the mystery and magic. The Storyteller also should have the freedom and space to create as this has not reached the end. Freedom matters.
That Disney. No risks in creative ideas, but they take "huge risks" pushing their racist, sexist, woke agenda - in replacing mens roles with women, making every other character gay and replace white characters with black ones. 😄
The whole alien saga was boiled down to a series of horror action flicks when it could have been a truly epic, thought-provoking saga. The subsequent stories would have been no less dramatic and intense, but the explanation of how things came to be would have added other poignant dimensions of conversation.
I would love to see a film developed behind this origin.
At least we're getting Dune eh? Or to put it another way, I totally agree with you that some bean counter recommended stripping out the substance for a guaranteed [sic] box office success. The Dune saga may be able to convince studios that people actually appreciate narrative arcs and deep stories
But hey, at least the movie studios were able to spend millions of dollars on focus groups to conclude that dumb humans need simple, watered down dumb concepts in order to enjoy anything. Obvious /s.
3 was one of the worst in franchise... Resurrection made it alot worse.
So as i understand it in chronological order in regards of the black goo.
-The intro scene of Prometheus play millions of years before humanity. At that time the Engineers still had the pure blood of the first deacon that allowed to seed life on planets.
-Millions of years later the blood ran out and they tried to reverse engineer it. But instead created an agressive pathogen that impregnates and creates monsters from life forms.
-This may be the reason why David destroyed the Engineer outpost/settlement on Planet 4. He realized the Engineers where as faulity/violent as humans (judging by their creations) and destroyed them with their own weapons.
Why is so much left for others to explain? And is this then the genesis of the lil monsters cos ive nevr seen it fully explanated
Those were not engineers
@@francosfarms1573 It kinda seeems like this is just an overly complex poorly written story with lots of holes.
Perhaps also David attempted to complete what the Engineers were trying to do, recreate the Deacon creatures by experimenting with the black goo. And he did make some progress, but not enough.
@@francosfarms1573they are engineers until they release the movie they are describing in interviews
this easily could have been the greatest movie ever. watching all of these videos of what this movie could have been always makes me so sad.
I Feel the Same only a glimpse of humanity is witnessing this only those who are interessting in this maybe thats the reason it didnt make its way into the movie to controversial
Thats why ***THEY*** stopped it.
I saw Prometheus in the Cinema and i have not been there since. I refuse to pay good money to be insulted with a movie that should have been called "Stupid people in Space" and i thought lets watch Alien Covenant on the TV, how bad can it be 🤬😱🤢 The expanse restored my hope in humanity again.
Alien fanboys woud of ruined the series somehow
@@JMPasq Ridley scott just released the IP so the next Alien movie can be produced. Good news is that Ridley scott is not involved, so there is hope.
The whole Engineer arc of Prometheus was by far the most interesting and engaging part of the film. It was an awesome opportunity to really broaden out the Alien universe. I agree with everyone else who commented that the studio really dropped the ball when they edited out these aspects of the production. I was hoping for the longest time that the sequel was really going to follow Shaw and David to "Paradise" and we would have been exposed directly to the Engineer culture. Alas, no. What we got was the Covenant deleted scene "The Crossing" and the 20 second flashback clip that showed David's genocidal attack on the "sort-of-Engineers" on the planet. You never know, we might yet get to see more of this story line IF Ridley Scott ever gets to produce Alien Awakening...but don't hold your breath.
Couldn't agree more
you wait around for it.. i'm out dude!
@@KatoBrasi I hear ya. My instincts tell me it ain’t ever going to happen. At least we have our imaginations…(sigh)
they got worried, that people would NOT vote for Biden, as the plans run parallel.
@@Lord-Demolay If Gods are violent there's nothing that can be done about it, IF, however, HUMANS are violent and aggressive, they have to learn to be good, stop misbehaving and DO what WE say. What do you think happens every time a script lands on CIA-edit Unit Alpha's desk.
They really should have an entire movie just for the Engineers. Doing that would tremendously help the franchise.
yup
The engineers aren’t melanated enough for a new movie!
WHY would they have removed this??? This is a critical piece of the story - along with the additional lore you provided. What a shame
Maybe they removed it to keep us confused because it sure as shit left me confused!
Yeah they definitely should have kept it in there
My bet is that the Money people didn't want that story told as it creates confusion in their religion!
It was deleted because it didn´t fit the greater narrative. Look where is mainstream culture taking us - atheistic scientism. What would be the point of mainstream culture to produce a movie that would potentially provoke viewers into exploring topics like ancient history, myths, religion, creation of life/humans etc. This opening scene holds strong reference to ancient sumerian creation story of humans. It was possible after one of the gods was sacrificied and his blood was used.
Why they would tell everything in 1 movie, when they can make 3 or 4 movies?! Money talks pal.
This movie came out over 10 years ago and I am still learning about it. So many untapped possibilities and I firmly believe that continuing the engineer aspect would have gained more and more fans.
June 2012 was when it came out. Engineers were in Dark Horse comics, Alien Outbreak in 1988, Aliens Nightmare asylum, and Aliens female war. They are not cannon thanks to Alien 3 (Hicks and Newt are characters in it) but if they make Alien 3 not cannon as rumored, they could be cannon again.
@@Skitdora2010 Would you mind telling how they are not cannon because of the plot in Alien 3? I never got to read the comics so I find this really interesting to find out.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Comics in general are never canon of anything, they are always made by different people making up crap as they go. Sort of like TV show series each episode different writer, production and director so you get great ones and things that don't make sense or lets say doesn't even matter.
If you can read the books, other then that comics are a joke and movies as you can see stripped down heavily too almost pointless.
As for the topic in general. What is being said in this video it's not news to me at all.
All this is taken from our own human history so when I seen just those oddball short incoherent scenes in the movies with zero dialogue and barely any action it was still all clear to me what they are doing since I know all this decades before this movie even existed from real historic sources, from long before and was reading between the lines while watching the movie, so to speak ...
The thing is maybe someone was well aware wtf are these people making of this movie and decided to cut it since in reality our human history is kept secret by Vatican itself and what is given vague and obscure in nature. You have to dig deeper.
And seems like who ever wrote this script was digging more then it should or lets say more then their corporate scum and Elites allow for them to reveal.
Part of what is shown here is also mentioned in the book of Nemesis if I remember is correctly it is named that way. I am not talking about the Bible version of it but an older script which goes into further details.
Human type made from a clay bowl by an alien aka ancient ruler. With other words some of us were made as clones in a lab in a lab bowl of the old true humans, as it is also said in Christianity that humans were made in likeness of God himself.
That is also maybe why we are quite weak too, since we are a incomplete clone. And it's possible that there are much more complete ones out there.
Related to this keep in mind also that some humans have powers or lets say abilites that others don't so they might be the ''true blood'' clones.
Some people can look into up to above 10th dimension and do marvels. Just like the ancients did. We everyday humans are brainwashed since we are little, our brain corrupted by garbage data so we only can do 3 dimentions some 4, 3 dimentions is full vision the 4th is good hearing, 5 is devine hearing then there is that so called 6th sense where you don't see nor hear something but on a spiritual level feel some presence and everything above that is pretty much superhuman abilities ... tapping into dimentions a regular human can't see nor hear nor feel.
All this is in basic manner mentioned even in this video alone.
It's evident that who ever worked on these scripts was digging through old history.
Very disappointing. Maybe ‘Awakening’ will be better…, but I doubt it… 😢
prometheus got me into the alien franchise sad that it went to such a waste an the new one dont look to good either
We want more Engineers!
Yes!! I can’t tell you how disappointed I was with Prometheus when I found out it was just another alien movie.. and the sequel.
@@darthsilversith667 agreed for sure they originally suppose to be way better than it turned out but I mean I still like Prometheus & Covenant for what they are bcuz I can see what they were trying to do... no surprise the studio gets involved & sabotages per usual
We do. I want to know if their culture and origins
Studying is expensive.
And more KROFt
This so called "Draft script" is the "Draft No# 17 Orange revision" and *has been PROVEN to be a fake fan edit script.* The fan in question, who put it together clearly took some pieces from the early Prometheus script images shown in the documentary "The Furious Gods" and edited them into his own work. This script appeared after the publication of the Blu-ray extended material, which includes The Furious Gods documentary. Damon Lindelof himself has stated that this script is fake in a Twitter post. *Please do your research before believing the unsupported theories of this channel.*
I think the design of the Engineers was fantastic, almost like magnified humans or giant living marble statues.
Dude this movie is the best and worst movie 😂 I liked the engineers! I loved the scene where their last moments were replayed, and the ending with engineer vs alien.
The ship crew were so dumb tho. It makes it hard to suspend disbelief:)
Seems like the Engineers are supposed to be the Annunaki.
@@micahwest2793Yep they are basically the skypeople
They completely omitted the only dialogue in the movie that gave it any intelligence. They really do want to dumb us down.
Well its not actually real history....you do know this, right?
@@onetruthmediacompany its a movie right?
@@onetruthmediacompany this is more real than the science books or the bible u simpleton
You do know that you exist in a REAL unknown Universe, right?
@@user-ny7vz9fh5y Thank you. There is nothing “original” about this movie… it’s a carbon copy of ancient astronaut theory which has been around for 100+ years… but actually all ancient cultures knew where we came from.
Sad that people think that *this* is original. If only people picked up more books!
Wish Scott would write a whole series of books on the engineers
I want an engineer origin story that takes place on their planet. Maybe with shaw or another crew landing there like prometheus.
But Scott never wrote the Alien Story in the First place. Look Up who Made the Alien Script.
Read the ancient Sumerian tablets about the annunaki it’s what probably inspired Prometheus a lot it’s an ancient real life story of real life supposed engineers/ancient astronauts
@@thoththeatlantean1226 I was thinking the same thing
Or comic books
Man Ridley Scott abandoned something really profound and interesting. Prometheus was the next level to the Alien saga. Answering decades old question like where does the xenomorph come from. Engineers scared the hell out of me way more than a xenomorph ever did. Prometheus is also an ancient story of our own planet. A race of certain people living today just might have been seeded here to carry on their dying space travelling race...
A attempt yes, they said we were a failed experiment that I think the engineer said was trying to destroy but something went wrong...
and who is this certain people?!
which race is from outer space?
@@ssppeeaarrwell Puerta Ricans obviously lol.
Annunaki......
This is an intriguing take on Ancient Alien Theory, and makes the movie so much more interesting. It activates the mind, and even though it provides answers, it actually creates even more of a mystique. It's also interesting that their intention was too create life, but the experiment failed. I think it's important to flip the script on Hollywood films that most often seem to present Aliens as a threat. Finally, it also activates one's spirit in a way, it has a kind "good" spiritual vibe. This whole thing makes it clear that Scott has spent a great deal of time pondering all the info out there on possible Alien interaction with Earth throughout the ages
Thank you for uploading!! It's always a pleasure to immerse myself in your new videos!
It all should have been included in the movie. … I personally would like this story continued on the engineers in future movies… but sadly I don’t think it will happen.
Yessss! Another wonderful video by Kroft!! Nobody explains the Alien lore like you, thank you!
So many scenes feel unfinished in the whole Alien universe, like you can literally feel that something was removed at a certain moment. Man this universe would have been perfect of the studios were passionate about it
It probably got pulled because Scott stupidly wrote/plagiarized too many parallels to Christianity and the studio didn't want the drama. It's understandable, and frankly I blame Scott for doing this because he likely knew it would be controversial. He sabotaged the whole thing. You can see the same thing start to happen even more so in Raised by Wolves he was a part of, they ran with it and it got ridiculous to the end of season two with a guy bleeding floating upside down with arms out like an inverted cross and a myriad of other symbolism I can't even remember.
Raised by Wolves was pretty awesome. I was devastated when they pulled it.
There were some good ideas in Prometheus that were totally discarded for some reason. As for "Alien: Covenant", the Engineer's home planet, or whatever the hell it was, it was a total letdown. It looked just like New Zealand with some old ancient ruins plonked down in a mountain valley when it should've been a strange and fantastical Engineer metropolis.
That was not the engineers planet, it was another experimental planet like earth was, but the peoples there were very primitive compered to Humans of earth
@@mandibiedermann2246and more engineer look alike than Humans, the fact the planet was shielded from being detected implies that Engineers liked those people, the colonial ship only found the planet through the trap signal set up by David.
@@starseeker5231 yes they looked more similar to humans than engineers, the only difference was that they were bald 😅
@@mandibiedermann2246 and the skin color was also similar but the eyes looked pretty human
@@starseeker5231 yes 👌
Thank you for this. It reminds me of Gnosis theory from john Lamb Lash. He talks about Archons as some type of entity that is not unlike the Engineers.
Gnosticism is a death cult
Thank you for putting this together, you gave me renewed faith in Ridley Scott, or at least in his original vision.
Thanks Kroft ! So much background detail.
You've made a great channel !
Engineers are truly fascinating and intriguing to me I hope we see more of them.
Yes. There were such fascinating concepts and mysteries in this movie, but instead they focused on the more predictable things that I wasn’t interested in at all. The engineers are the best part of all of this to me.
A few people have told me that they don't like the engineers being in an Alien movie, but I think they're great.
It adds so much more lore to the alien franchise. I want more as well.
Agreed, Prometheus is my favorite of the series, save Aliens and if they'd left more in it would've made it even better imo. I'd love to see them return to film.
So true. The Engineers storyline could be one of the best in sci-fi history imho. It has so much potential. At least if its done right. I know the die hard Alien fans want their xenomorph stuff but i wish Scott would just make a movie on ONLY the Engineers. Or at least what was talked about already, Paradise. At least that. Im just a fan of this angle that hasn't really been touched on as much. It almost seems like it could be real. And for us that believe in extraterrestrial life... its fascinating. Thats why i love Prometheus. I know alot of people dont like it but i love it. I also know there were alot of holes in the story though. So much was taken out that should've just been left in. Just look at the deleted scenes. They could've helped so much. And thats a disappointment. Or all the dialogue changed or taken out also. This storyline can be incredible. In Alien Covenant, which i enjoyed but know that it has issues, I loved the Engineers city. But was very disappointed when the actual Engineers scene lasted only like 30sec. I was so excited for the continuation of the Engineers but i bet we'll never get it now. Shit just imagine a series on the Engineers. I think for us that dig Prometheus it would be the best choice. If only LOL. But when i hear all u experts talk about the new studio decisions, directors, etc. I sometimes do think maybe down the road something will happen
@@guaguancos.montunodcubop8923 They had enough information to make a series out of it. But the producers thought it would just go over most people's heads hence the reason the movie story was stripped, and only some of the information was brought back to the DVD release.
Yes!!!! Kroft!!! Literally stop what I do everytime I see you drop a video just to watch. Great content as usual and keep up the great work brother !!! 👍🏻
Honestly this is so fascinating and I have waited so many years to get the full download of the mystery of this movie; thank you so much!!!
I hate when I learn how much good content was deleted. I love this movie because it is so much more science fiction than the original Alien series. Those are fun, but their fun is from the violence and fear they generate. I'm sure, though, people would have complained that the movie is too long if these scenes were included. Thanks for detailing them 🙂
Some people might consider this a retcon, not canon, or some level of a mistake made by the writers, personally, I can only imagine how messy the production of a movie like this can be, how many sacrifices must be taken especially if a dreaded committee gets involved, so I really appreciate having a chance to get to know details like these that help shed light upon a story that could have been much more interesting and well developed than the version we ended up getting, so I thank you so much for sharing this in this video! I actually got to love Prometheus because of your efforts! Cheers!
Pretty sure they took all of this sacrifical stuff from the babylonian creation story with Kingu, where a high cast of beings sacrificed one of them, a wise and intelligent being.And out of his blood was formed the first human.
It's entirely ripped off from sumerian mythology. Morelike chariots of the gods rip off lol
That's a pretty common creation myth.. many civilizations had the myth that they came from the flesh/blood/etc of some higher being.
This is when directors cuts with the full script done as is comes in handy. Studios tend to cut so much to stay in a time limit, but as proven by the full cut justice league, the studios don't know their customers. Let the creators create and the studio can stay in their lane.
This explanation blows my mind! Using this backdrop a whole series of movies could be written that would surely be great hits. Hopefully there is more to come.
After watching all the deleted scenes... Those scenes should have been included! It changes everything and explains sooooooo much.
cuz ridley didnt want christians pushin their agenda and taking away from the movie. 🤔
@@ssppeeaarrbruh the whole thing is about christianity sadly 😂
I miss these movies. I wish we had more.
Hopefully the new alien movie and series will be good.
@@eternalbeing3339 I hadn't heard! That's awesome I hope so too.
@@eternalbeing3339 I wouldn't count on it. The "Alien" and "Predator" franchise was bought by Disney (and look what they did to "Star Wars"). It's just my personal opinion, but I really disliked "Prey" (not the action scenes per se, but the story and the protagonist).
Great video. This is the best explanation I have seen of the back story to date.
Thank you for filling in this most essential and important section.
This lore is fascinating and there’s so much more that can be built around it in a philosophical sense. I would love to see a series of movies exploring this: the deep history of engineers, the loss of their ability to procreate naturally in their attempt to reach immortality, creating humans in an attempt to rectify their mistake, humans failing the engineer test and deemed unworthy (this could tie in with the Christ idea - the engineers sent or placed Christ on the earth as a test and humans made the choice to kill him instead of embracing him)
You miss the entire point of Christ:
he/God incarnate HAD to be sacrificed for humans, it's the very thing he incarnated into a man for; we cannot be perfect like him/God, so it's not that we should be like Jesus--that's not the point of the his teachings. It was God's own sacrifice to end the prior human sacrifices we made in the name of false gods. Basically, if we trust in the sacrifice God made for us, it connects us to God instead of attempting to connect to God through killing/"magic spells"/rituals, etc
@@Imperial_Cosmonaut The hell are you talking about?
@@Imperial_Cosmonaut ur the type of human the egineer was angry at....
lol. smh.
Hey, you're back! Glad to get another video.
Mister Croft I love your narrative! And thank you for that insightful bit of info into the series I was one of those fans of the Alien series! When I watch Prometheus I went okay what's going on here! However I always knew that there was a dialogue link or script link that was lost. Now I know thank you I will watch for more of your videos for more info absolutely love your narrative like I said in my opening the way you explained it works perfect thank you
Thank you for making these videos Kroft
I miss your videos and your content hope you can upload more thanks so much
It's amazing that after all these years we are still peeling back layers of possibilities surrounding this film.
Absolutely fascinating breakdown bro! I would have loved to have seen this in the movie... really explains Alot!
Really appreciate these videos. Makes me both mad at the studio but grateful that there was some ideas to do more with this movie.
That was great. Made me way more interested in the engineers and the franchise in general. I always wanted to like it more, and this is a link that was missing for me.
Exactly this for me! This film was a boring mish-mash that I never really understood until I saw this. And now the Engineers make it so interesting that I want to watch it again.
The whole Engineer lore and David (Fassbender's acting) were the best parts of the film...why I still consider it a pretty solid movie, crazy VFX, dope soundtrack
a story is required for immersion. no story may create mystery, which is fine if it is ever revealed or if it's just a one shot movie. but this was part of a massive series. ofc we needed it!
Yep
Yeah, the movie we got didn't leave enough breadcrumbs for an attentive viewer to piece together any plausible context for the engineer/alien/human relationships. Typically, the point of mystery in story is to give the audience an opportunity to figure it out and then experience the story again with more understanding.
@@brianskog9947 yes but there are also movies that purposely leave most things in the dark eg the cube. you can think about it a little bit, but really, it's unimportant and you should concentrate on what IS being shown and what's happening.
Based off this videos view count in one month I’d say there’s interest in Prometheus 2, many of us are still waiting … very interesting panspermia ideas thrown around in this story , would like to see Ridley delve more into the lore
Cheers for making this dude, really enjoyed this and love the film even more now 👍🏻👍🏻
I think this level of complexity elevates the work to a level that gives it the kind of storytelling that is rarely brought to an audience and they it deserves to be brought back to us in long format and thereby giving us a work of art that not only entertains us but expands our understanding of ourselves even if only through the allegory of science fiction.
I'm speechless. As Evan (below) says, this was some of the greatest part of the story in the entire movie!!! This is Annunaki stuff right out of the 12th Planet (and other translations of the Sumerian tablets). How is it that this narrative didn't continue?!! So many clues from our past. Good job, Kroft.
Shit's too close to reality that's why
Yup pretty much wat the above, too close to reality. But it gets worse. The annunaki engineers are not ever coming back, they got toasted buba solar flare- cover up was the ison comet- but the destroyer is and it is currently captured by the Sun. It was not supposed to become captured only pass by. It isn't gonna end well.
Wow! Great knowledge. Always wondered about the deacon in the last scene. This explains!
Thank you my man! So good to see more content on this!
All I wanted is the Director cut!! Ridley Scott is a genius and we must see his masterpiece like it is...Disney must let him finish his work. I'm grateful for the two new series but this story needs a good conclusion...
The engineer part of the movie was probably the best part from the movie, so promising, at least for me, and too short. I would have loved to see much more about the engineers.
This just shows you how many people still love the alien world lore. I wish they could make a good lore movie
Dude idk what it is about Kroft's videos that I love so much. I think it's his slower delivery of the info within the video in combination with the music he uses. It makes it really easy to take in when you watch it. I love John Michael Godier's videos for the same exact reasons.
Yeah idk either. I been watching him since his channel started. I guess its that i love the alien universe and he covers it in great detail.
@@eternalbeing3339 Yeah no doubt, it’s such a great Franchise
Can anyone tell me the background music? I can't find it anywhere
@@Jack_93 Atlantis - Autonautix
@@Tharsis_ I love you! I've been searching for so many years. Thank you 🙏
Kroft, please upload more and frequently. We know the research you do takes a huge amount of time and we appreciate your work. Thank you.
Thanks for your excellent work with this series!
Omg ❤ that was as good if not better than the movie, thank you for breaking it down in detail💯💯💯💯💯
I love you and your videos :'( missed you dearly! hugs from Portugal
This should have been in the film and should have been explored even further in Covenant. A real missed opportunity.
Very interesting! Thanks for posting! 👍
Great breakdown of a pivotal scene that would have explained a lot. In the Scott-verse the potential explanation for the reasons for life throughout the Universes is still a great way to begin the tale. As humans our own origins are shrouded in mystery, and only hinted at through myth and legend. I love a good story, it's a shame they hamstrung the premise of the originally conceived storyline, leaving us to wonder about the story as a whole.
Glad to see you back at the lore game.
Finally more enginer lore! i lust after these videos thank you! cant wait for the next alien installment. i want an engineer homeworld movie! they are so fascinating, but its so frustrating that theres so little info on them in the movie itself.
I like the mystery of the movies. leaves you wondering.
The background of this video is very cool though. wish we could get a few more movies. The original Alien scared the shit out of me when I was about 8 when it came out on either showtime or HBO and I had bad dreams of the chest buster for a month. Loved sci-fi every since...Especially the Alien storyline.
Thanks for the video
I like the mystery of Prometheus. I also like to know the back story as well. That’s why we have you Kroft and the impeccable work you do! Please keep them coming. Always look forward to more.
The Prometheus documentary you refer to, is that on the Blu-ray or somewhere else online?
Dude!! This just made Prometheus so much more interesting! Thank you
Appreciate the upload buddy, love this lore and your videos.
We need an entire film dedicated to just the engineers - reveal the origin of humans
There is truth about the ‘’Black Goo’’ that’s why it’s a reoccurring theme in many movies.
X-Files is when I first notice. 1 word, Antarctica
1) You should create a playlist of all these videos, in the most logical order, as a way of promoting all the videos that you have done on this topic of the lore of these Alien prequel movies.
2) I have watched most/all of your Alien prequel videos.
3) Without your explanations, I found both Prometheus and Covenant to be incomprehensible garbage, with a lot of metaphysical nonsense. Your videos have helped to explain both the intent and the actual content.
4) It seems like they hired some Christian dungeons & dragons cosplayers to write the script, and then told them to go hog-wild.
5) I have to say that the more I know, the less interested I am in the entire concept.
6) The Christian scholar Bart Ehrman, in the Great Courses / Teaching Company lectures, talked about the Gnostic gospels that are not included in Christianity, but which were part of the original variants of Christianity, and he said that perhaps it is the case that people are more likely to appreciate the Gnostic gospels from afar, because there is a lot of lore and details, which have no payoff outside of the most esoteric of knowledge. (the detail of the Gnostic gospels are not philosophical, and they do not contain truths about human nature or psychology, or anything else)
7) I understand why someone would make a movie like American Pie or Dumb and Dumber, because you can pass the time and maybe have a laugh or two, but I really have no idea why someone would write and film this kind of fake spiritual navel-gazing mythology with this kind of budget. This is some Scientology level storytelling here.
8) The critical Drinker excoriated both Prometheus and Covenant, for reasons tangentially related to my points, and he was right on target.
We need a fan film using all this information.
Thank you for filling in the lost details. I always knew there was a much bigger back story.
Excellent analysis - I definatly wish they had included this.
I think they should have kept the scene although some of the mystery disappears. It is a great story in itself. Thanks for putting the pieces together!
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I respect the reason why Ridley Scott revealed what & when.
But respect has nothing to do with liking it!
Feels like 200,000 engineer years why we have been waiting!
i wish they focused more on the engineers, by far my favorite part of the movie, great video kroft!
Excellent explanation!
Definitely this information should have been on Blu-ray as Director's Cut.
Even higher beings get grumpy without s3x!.
Lol
Thanks
I feel even more positive now that this film was a type of disclosure that is the story of the titans aka the fallen Nephilim.
It is a clear warning to not mix iron with clay !
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No the nephelium did not create humans
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Absolutely right ! They did not This film is a assault against the Most High Heavenly Father
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I will offer this, the nephelium are fallen Angels, correct? Angel's were the ones who helped God with creation. They said the ability to create was taken from them. Not procreation. So God took that from them after they had fallen. It sure seems that Ridley Scott was trying to bring in first parts of genesis without actually stating it directly. Maybe it was to reduce religious teachings, but sure seems like he accidently tried to main stream it. B
I too wish he could have made the. Movie he wanted to.
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I agree - Great Comment !
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They should’ve included as much information about the engineers as possible
Its great information to know, I think it would have been great for them to add it to the extended edition of the movie. A lot of die hard fans didn't like these two movies, but I really liked these movies because it was more exploration and lore combined with the horror.
I would love if they built on this back story with some more movies!!
They need to do more Prometheus sequel
Engineer: Humans are a violent species not worthy of our drip.
Also Engineer: Chases his future mother-in-law through a spaceship trying to kill her.
This explanation is by far the most enlightening and definitive regarding the Engineers desire to experiment with reproduction. Kroft, thank you so much for this video. Always great content!!
what a movie Prometheus was and will always be one of my favourites of all time
Film had me shook like a child way more than any scary horror ever did in my 40 years. 💎
Yes. Ty. I needed that explanation. Awesome. When does the final movie of the prequel set of 3 going to happen? 15:02
Never. Covenant was such a bomb that they cancelled the third movie.
Bro whenever I get back into aliens after a break you have a new video ready 😂😂😂
Dude you hamming your voice up makes you sound like Dracula. I like it
The lore of the engineers alone is intriguing enough I believe to stand on its own. I'd love to see some creative depth pursued here
They should hurry make a next movie and showing how intelligent engineers are and there real planet its taking to long smt
Interesting. I have followed all these movies and enjoyed them all. Can you put together a timeline with the original movie "Alien" and all it's sequels or prequels if you haven't already?
The studio kept this film, which I enjoyed thoroughly, from hitting the notes we could all feel it striving for.
We need a full directors cut, as this video explains it very well. The movie needs to do the same.
It’s things like this that make me wanna see a deep dive into the culture and society of the Engineers. Pretty sure the normal ones only live for about 150 years while the genetically enhanced ones, like the space jokey, can live for thousands.
They’re not real
They’re not real
Engineers: "You humans are violent, so we have to kill you"
Human: "Oh wise and kind Sir, wouldn't you consider your wanting to kill all of us an even greater act of violence?"
totally should have been included....how all that ended up on the cutting room floor is a mystery to me. Its awesome.......explains everything!!!!
In my head canon. The engineers did not create the alien, but used the black goo within the facehugger. The goo is what allows the Alien to adept to the host DNA. Then the engineers created humans, to be the perfect host for the xenomorph.
It was clearly explained already your head canon is off, garbage like fan fiction always is. There is only canon and lore whether you like it or not. There is only truth not "mY tRuTh" whether you like it or not. Enough with such stupid narcissism.
@@gharm9129 Dude, calm down.
@@lkass1107 The fact you had to give your opinion shows that you're the one who's offended and needs to calm down. YWNBAW f@6
I think the engineer lore is really good and have huge potential for multiple reasons. I would like to see some books published that are working out the origins and once the details are established some movies could follow.