Currently running a Journeyman X-50, waiting for delivery of the Elite version. I have so many dust boots and several mangled ones. Whenever I do 3D carves I generally run without the dust boot and just shop vac as it's going to keep the OCD at bay. Most of my destroyed dust boots are from work holding clamps that I didn't expect to crash into. CA glue is my friend and I have glued so many pieces together, multiple times.
I’m waiting for my elite foreman to come in with the pwn 2.2kw water cooled spindle. What if you lowered the dust boot flange without the brushes to the bottom of the collet nut level and printed an angled nozzle adapter towards the bit but no lower than the collet nut?
Also I live south west of you on the coast, Port Lavaca, the humidity is no joke. I may have to build a room in my shop and put in a mini split for it.
If I'm understanding you correctly, on some of the 3D models that I have carved they have been up to two inches thick resulting in extreme peaks and valleys in the carve. What I have found is if I leave the bristles on they get drug off of the magnetic base and run into the bit, if I were to lower the magnetic base down to the collet nut the problem would then be on a peak that is 2 inches from the bit but higher then the current placement of the carve the base would hit the high point and that's going to lead to an error on the system. At point I have given up on a dust boot altogether on 3D carves, I chased it around the shop back every few minutes just to make sure everything's OK. Best of luck with your new CNC I'm sure you'll enjoy it…
My Elite is all set up. I have yet to carve with it. I'm not looking forward to wrecking my first dust boot, which seems inevitable. I know one thing... I won't be wrecking it on a 3D carve. I'll go brushless and deal with the cleanup after. Thanks.
Mount the dust boot to the fixed slots behind the router. The router then moves up and down inside the dust boot. The boot stays level with the top of the workpiece.
I understand completely the point you're making however it's not the problem of it remaining level with the surface the problem is when it's a deep 3D carve the bristles get pulled in the deeper cuts and that gets pulled off because it's magnetically attached that gets destroyed. Some of the 3D cuts I've made we're two inches deep there were difficult to begin with but then you add the difficulties of the dust boot bristles being caught and dragged over things just pretty much makes it impossible to keep one in good shape
I have an elite journeyman, but haven't ventured into 3d carves yet. Have you considered trying a stationary dust boot for this purpose (like the one 1f sells)? It seems like you set that the max height at the top of your piece and just let it glide over various depths of the carve. You may have to do a little cleanup afterwards, but it should pick up most of the debris and nearly all the dust.
Ive use 1 inch, 2 inch the problem is some of my 3d carves are so deep it actually hits the plastic the brushes are held by pulling it off the boot.. Now I just dont use a boot on 3d
Fein dust collection is nothing more than a fancy shop vac, it does a great job when the bag is empty or near empty but I can fill it up in 1 3d carve. The Laguna Pflux 3 has great suction but at a price, this thing is VERY expensive to operate for 12 hour plus carves, it produces a large amount of heat also and I have found several design issues with it that Laguna has come up with a fix but the cost is on me.. The Laguna will collect more dust to answer your question.
I used the Suck-It for several years on my Onefinity and recently switched to a Nighthawk and it works like a charm.
Good to know thanks.
Currently running a Journeyman X-50, waiting for delivery of the Elite version. I have so many dust boots and several mangled ones. Whenever I do 3D carves I generally run without the dust boot and just shop vac as it's going to keep the OCD at bay. Most of my destroyed dust boots are from work holding clamps that I didn't expect to crash into. CA glue is my friend and I have glued so many pieces together, multiple times.
Same here..
I’m waiting for my elite foreman to come in with the pwn 2.2kw water cooled spindle. What if you lowered the dust boot flange without the brushes to the bottom of the collet nut level and printed an angled nozzle adapter towards the bit but no lower than the collet nut?
Also I live south west of you on the coast, Port Lavaca, the humidity is no joke. I may have to build a room in my shop and put in a mini split for it.
If I'm understanding you correctly, on some of the 3D models that I have carved they have been up to two inches thick resulting in extreme peaks and valleys in the carve. What I have found is if I leave the bristles on they get drug off of the magnetic base and run into the bit, if I were to lower the magnetic base down to the collet nut the problem would then be on a peak that is 2 inches from the bit but higher then the current placement of the carve the base would hit the high point and that's going to lead to an error on the system. At point I have given up on a dust boot altogether on 3D carves, I chased it around the shop back every few minutes just to make sure everything's OK. Best of luck with your new CNC I'm sure you'll enjoy it…
My Elite is all set up. I have yet to carve with it. I'm not looking forward to wrecking my first dust boot, which seems inevitable. I know one thing... I won't be wrecking it on a 3D carve. I'll go brushless and deal with the cleanup after. Thanks.
I will so be doing some videos on common issues with getting started.. What software are you using?
@@poppopswoodshop Vectric Pro. "VCarve"
Cant go wrong there.. @@James01520
Mount the dust boot to the fixed slots behind the router. The router then moves up and down inside the dust boot. The boot stays level with the top of the workpiece.
I understand completely the point you're making however it's not the problem of it remaining level with the surface the problem is when it's a deep 3D carve the bristles get pulled in the deeper cuts and that gets pulled off because it's magnetically attached that gets destroyed. Some of the 3D cuts I've made we're two inches deep there were difficult to begin with but then you add the difficulties of the dust boot bristles being caught and dragged over things just pretty much makes it impossible to keep one in good shape
I have an elite journeyman, but haven't ventured into 3d carves yet. Have you considered trying a stationary dust boot for this purpose (like the one 1f sells)? It seems like you set that the max height at the top of your piece and just let it glide over various depths of the carve. You may have to do a little cleanup afterwards, but it should pick up most of the debris and nearly all the dust.
Yes I have, I will probably buy one in the future
What about having one boot that you trim the brushes off a half inch or so to use when you do a 3d carve?
Ive use 1 inch, 2 inch the problem is some of my 3d carves are so deep it actually hits the plastic the brushes are held by pulling it off the boot.. Now I just dont use a boot on 3d
How does the fein dust extractor compare to the laguna dust collector? Does one collect more dust than the other?
Fein dust collection is nothing more than a fancy shop vac, it does a great job when the bag is empty or near empty but I can fill it up in 1 3d carve. The Laguna Pflux 3 has great suction but at a price, this thing is VERY expensive to operate for 12 hour plus carves, it produces a large amount of heat also and I have found several design issues with it that Laguna has come up with a fix but the cost is on me.. The Laguna will collect more dust to answer your question.
Just bought more GME!