audio might be scuffed at around 3 minutes into the video up until 6 minutes. sadly got a copyright on a persona song so UA-cam muted the audio thus making my voice weird.
another thing i would like to mention is that they could differentiate between france and germany (two tiny little european countries RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER my state itself is bigger than germany) and for sumeru they mixed so many things and doris whole design situation... then natlan too?? Yes i get that mond is also like that but it portrays germany quite accurately ( i have way too many german friends) then liyue of course its a chinese game, then inazuma is like japan but after all that?? Honestly thats not the problem tho i can deal with the amalgamation of cultures (when i was 4 i thought aladdin is indian but im indian and medium deep skinned-) but the skin thing is absolutely the worst considering colonialism and current beauty standards and the racist people-
So two people out of the sea of white colored peopled In the game? Not to mention how nahida canonically is supposed to be brown but was sold as a white colored character? Lol
What's strange to me is that even Asian people come in many shades, including darker ones. So, the only thing that makes sense to me is colorism/racism. They have made and still make so much money for them to worry about not selling a character. It's a shame
Hundred of years before the sinosphere(cultural sphere of japan, china, korea and indo-china countries) even interact with europeans or africans they already saw paler skin tones as more attractive and a beauty standart, that's why japanese geishas, for example, paint their faces with rice powder. Calling it racism or colorism, would be the equivalent of calling brazilians racist for putting tanner skin tones as our beauty standart, or any african countries by seeing darker skin tones as their beauty standart. It is just the way, how , diferent cultures arround the world created their own beauty standarts across thousands of years.
@@lucasbessa6388 it is colorism though. I'm from Indonesia and a lot of Asians from east Asian countries look down on us for having more darker skin tone White skin is seen as the ideal skin color.
@@alopex7430 ok, so you wanna force billions of people too forget/deny their own culture and beuty standarts that evolved throught thousands of years, just so they will create characters with your skin tone in their games? quite selfish, dont you think? Where i am from(Brazil), being tanner is the beauty standard(i'm japanese descendent), i am looked down in my own country, but I cant force people to call me beautiful, they have their right, to find some things more attractive than others, It don't make them racist or colorist.
In China specifically, (WHERE HOYO IS BASED) only like 0.01% of the population is actually dark so uhm Ig Hoyo has never seen a dark person but saw the culture :|
I would say they aren’t Racist, but Colorist. And I differentiate the 2, because they always go HAM with cultural appreciation. They do the scenery, food, lore, and music of these cultures justice! But then the skin tones are CRANKED to the whitest gates of high heaven. 6/82 currently playable characters that are TAN (not even dark) is insane.
I'd still say they are somewhat racist considering one of the new characters designed, chasca, who's name is from Andean culture, is dressed as a cowboy. And cowboys would hunt andean natives
@@CarrotSpunk. Are different cultures. And people think differently, I personally feel that they represented my culture well with Citlali. The other characters don't matter to me because although Kinich is from Mexico I feel that he is more of a Mayan culture and I feel that he has not known that. Since the Mayan culture is shared between Mexico, Guatemala and Belize. I can only defend Citlali.
i wish people stopped accepting low/lazy designs. they play it too safe! the designs would be so much better if they stopped hitting copy and paste with each region. some of these designs look a lot nicer in the edits, you can hardly see their skin tattoos because they're too scared to make them look dark!
Different skin color doesn’t automatically make the whole design lazy, but they sure are playing a lil too safe. Skin color aside, their still Great nonetheless
@@crayyx I wish they realized how much people cared for their few tan characters! like dehya, in china i heard they raised funds for charity because of her trailer coming out. the #fixdehya trend went on for weeks but they just don't care :(
Funny that the enemies/NPC are the only brown models. We have Dehya and probably 4 others at least but still 😂 I guess all the other players bathe in sunblock
I'm Egyptian! I'm not white nor brown I'm tanned so when I got realize this about genshin I felt disappointed cuz I'd see all these cool character designs and be like AT LEAST 'can we have one slightly darker character..?' Like we only have cyno, dehya and kaeya that I can remember and they're dark yes, but it's literally the darkest shade genshin has but it's not the darkest shade that actually exists- like genshin is such a cool popular game that almost everyone knows of not just an Asian game so if you want to include people of other cultures THEN DO IT RIGHT😭
@@hm.5003they are litteraly supposed to be based of people/culture of African/South American which are prominently colored and hoyo couldn’t even make a single dark character this isint black washing its pointing out hoyos blatant racism
it’s strange how hoyo takes so much inspiration from a variety of cultures around the world and yet I can’t differentiate between the different groups the game tries to depict. at the end of the day, it’s frustrating to see this behavior in 2024. Chinese ppl aren’t even all on the lighter scale 😭 there are plenty of them who are on the darker scale of skin color. this is clearly colorism into play. generally, ppl with darker skin color get picked on and judged and looked down upon more than those with lighter complexions. this isn’t exclusive to just Asian countries though, even in Latino countries, colorism is a huge problem. I would love to see more TRUE representation in such a popular game that claims to take inspiration from so many diverse cultures
This is also so much worse because it’s supposed to be PRECOLONIAL Latin America, Australia, and even Africa who are all dark skinned so the excuse of some latinos and Africans being whiter doesn’t even work here💀
no idea why u got so many negative comments., ur completely right. its 100% racism, i grew up in china so i would know, there's tons of racism pointed towards black people. hoyoverse has been making npcs darkskinned in both genshin and honkai star rail. but they rarely ever make them playable, most of the time they throw in a ''dark'' character on release just to have them there for the sake of inclusivity, in china there's many ads and posters that involve racism. from my experience. chinese teenagers/young adults. are not nearly as racist as the elderly, especially if they grew up in a bigger city. but many companies are very racist when it comes to marketing etc. i've seen movie posters in china where they would straight up remove the black person from the poster, or make them extremely small and barely recognizable, and this does NOT happen to any white/asian people. so yeah, racism.
You're raised in China? Why I never see this shit in China. Stop telling lies. In China we just dont care about race so much, instead what we care is culture, which is really representative for us. We have many races in China share similar culture, and we all recognize ourselves as the same kind of people. So its very easy for us to ignore about the skin color issue.
I hate how when Genshin released the anniversary awards big Genshin streamers had no problem making video and calling it out. But when it comes to literal colourism it’s mute. Why is it always smaller creators that always have the morals to calll them out?
@@ItzKudu Precisely when people were disappointed with the anniversary awards they'd make video going "Hoyo you need to listen to your community this is what we want". But when it's colourism it's "yeah ,whatever ,I'm not surprised "
Also other people have pointed out how hoyoverse tends to give their "dark skin" characters white hair like, 80% of the time. The reason is because the white/light colored hair makes those characters appear darker than they really are. Also something else, Arlan from honkai star rail, his skill power is called "shackle breaker" ??
Is it racist? Yes, 100%. Sadly I think it comes down to it being a Chinese company. It's the same thing that happened with Star Wars years back when they removed the Black actor from the promotional material for Chinese posters. They want to use the culture for the region but remove Black/Brown people from it. A lot of Asian media gets criticized for this, even Kpop constantly gets dragged for appropriating from Black/Brown and gay people while simultaneously excluding them and being colorist. It's sad this is still a thing but it's not surprising.
True. As a matter of fact, Japan have been more than willing to add dark skin characters from other countries origins. Be it games or anime. They have tones of Indian characters and all of them are darker than any genshin characters. Same with black characters or other dark skinned asian. Even making some as main characters. And when they make a story set with an african or Latam country as main inspo they actually try to make the characters looks like the inspiration 🫠
@@narudayo5053 It's one of those things that can't be defended anymore. If they only wanted light skinned characters then the regions shouldn't be based on places and cultures where the people aren't White. It's beyond shady to have another region where they keep the names and visuals from the real world but they just lighten everyone and we're all supposed to pretend that isn't blatantly appropriation and racism. I hate this is still an issue in 2024. Luckily Japan doesn't seem to do this as often anymore but my god, China needs to get this together, it's so tired.
I’m particularly not too bothered by the designs we have so far, but I do hope for more representation for Latin American culture, or any indigenous representation in general.
@@ItzKudu outfit wise, they all are great in their own right, i mean, over the years, hoyo had always been pretty great in representing each culture with a fantasy twist. But if it comes to skin color, hoyo definitely seems to be struggling to fully embrace it.
@@Hurrhurrrrnaurrrr2 as a person of color(half south eastern and living in South America), I don’t mind as much over the skin color as others do. But of course, some more darkish coloring is always appreciated
@@thelittleal1212 I feel like hoyo is on some kinda ccp leash. I mean if r1999 and arknights can do it why can’t they? I’ll still enjoy the game and lore but that doesn’t mean I’ll shit on the colorism haha
the people who are going "oh but there's pale people in these countries too yada yada", they couldn't be more dense and out of touch, like bfr the characters are literally WHITE, i know that we cope about cyno, dehya and candace being actually dark, but that's just not the real truth. hoyoverse is racist and colorist in ALL of their games, there's no denying on this matter, is disrespectful to cultures that they appropriate and monetize from. I was so sad seeing the characters on the teaser, i like the game and the designs are not bad, i loved the little hopi girl and sumeru is my favorite nation but this was definitely the final push for me to stop playing, it's simply ridiculous
*The fact that the ones with the darker skin colors are either NPCs or enemies are really telling. Not a single Archon is of color too. Like we're being told we're only either against them or should be out of their way basically. Never allowed to be given a position of power. Specially the fact that some of these characters are actually based on BLACK people!??? Yikes, Hoyo. BIG YIKES. You'd think being in the country of heat, they'd have more melanin in them. They'd be sunburnt by now. Their skin not adapted to their environment and don't talk to me about their tan. It's the most white-washed version of a brown I've ever seen in my life. At this point, I can only hope for Khanriah because of Kaeya (HE'S DARKER THAN ANY OTHER CURRENTLY REVEALED PLAYABLE CHARACTER FROM NATLAN WHAT-), but at this point, that's just me deluding myself and I'm so close to not even caring anymore.*
Bro Hoyo said “If your black or a person of color and you don’t see anybody that looks like you, even though we are using your culture as inspiration, deal with it”
To be honest, I wasn’t surprised with the Natlan release because of how the Sumeru release was treated. If they can get away with as little to none tan characters in one nation, then it shouldn’t be a surprise they would try it again.
Yes, yes it is. They have black/brown enemies yet no playable characters. And even whitewash the tan characters they have. But I would say they are more colorist than racist.
People often forget how racist some Asian countries can be and how scared artists and devs can be to create dark skins without offending anyone. Also, people hated on XinYan a fuck ton back in the day, both model like and art. I don’t like they haven’t tried to make more tanned or dark skin characters until now, but I kinda get it??
I understand their take from The financial side. Chinese media typically doesn't like dark-skinned people so they're prob afraid the new units won't sell well in a Chinese market
Based asf video! As a creole person I always appreciate seeing people who at least sort of resemble me to some degree in a media/video games, given representation for people of color are very lacking or they're shoehorned in in some weird way that no one asked for (like blackwashing pre-existing characters or making things political).
I wouldn't say they're racist as they did a very good job on the cultural aspects and the enviroments and music, if they were racist, they wouldn't have gone out of their way to implement it in game in the most authentic way possible. When Sumeru first came out and most of the characters are white except for a few, I just didn't think much of it, I thought it was okay because they're in a rainforest (and desert) and was inspired by the Middle East (including India as well), not saying that there aren't darker skinned people in the regions too. So (I'm just assuming here, please correct me if I'm wrong) the community decided that while it was controversial to not have darker skinned characters in game, they mostly decided to look past it and let hoyo cook for natlan because that was the region inspired by Aztec, South America and Africa, so they waited, hoping that hoyo would take that chance to create more diverse characters in the region. After watching the trailer though, I was pretty okay with it until the community pointed out the problem with the skin tones of the characters, I was like Oh no, Twitter's gonna have a field day with this, and I was right, everyone was not happy about it. I am mostly neutral on this but I do understand the outrage over this and it is reasonably so, I have to agree that there should be more diverse characters in natlan more skin tones in variety, since Natlan is the Pyro nation and it's hot it's sunny and humid, quite similar to Sumeru (I digress). So I'm on the side of the community is totally on the right for this and you are right to bring this up along with the other creators. PS: Let's not bring Furina as a sxample for this, the poor girl has suffered enough already for 500 years, let her live in life in peace with her mac and cheese XDDD. Jokes inside, I agree with your points. Hopefully this will get fixed and will be water under the bridge Also, I'm Asian in case anyone is wondering
Lol I love furina she’s my fav archon atm. It’s just easy to use her as a reference since she’s the only merch I own for the characters lol but yeah girl went through a lot 🙌🏽😭
I believe when they started the project, they were ambitious to make it epic. But under Chinese players’ pressure ,they have to change. You can see 4 years ago they released the PV,they used a black character to represent Natlan
The issue lies deep in Asian culture. In the past skin tone was a status symbol, from the emperors never seeing the sun and the workers always being under it, and the foundation of that belief system is still in play. Racist? No. They still put immense detail into the cultures they portray, they don't mock or stereotype. Colourist is more in line with it. They cherry pick aspects from the cultures, namely skin tones, in order to appeal to their main audience, which is Asia Hoyo actually has quite the history with this stuff. In Honkai Impact 3rd Carole was self conscious about her skin colour. Kaeya is described as "Suspicious" and Xinyan is described as "Scary" in game which is... y'know lmao. Since Inazuma it feels like the company has matured a little in their execution of things so at least all the desert dwellers (Cyno, Candace and Dehya) had a tad of melanin. But it did not go unnoticed how many enemies have considerably darker skin than the playable characters, especially now they're doing it again with Natlan I will say though, I immensely dislike the editing of characters to give them darker skin. Even when the artistic intention is flawed by our standards, I find it important that the artist's work is kept in the state it was intended to be in, and that we instead criticise the source, not mess around with the product. Can you imagine if a black character was released in Western media and it was whitewashed by the East because of 'culture'? There is a problem in Hoyo's cherry picking of parts of the world by our standards, but I feel there's a right way to go about it. If you disagree with this small line of argument then I'd be happy to talk in the replies of this comment That's my analysis of the whole situation
I preregistered for genshin and played since release. I was always a MASSIVE fan of genshin and mihoyo (as my wallet is very aware). I was always aware that the characters were 99% white, but assumed that would change in Sumeru, and as an indian with islamic heritage an indian and MENA inspired region was so exciting too. But i remember watching the first sumeru preview live and being flashbanged by how white the characters were. It was soul crushing and i genuinely felt betrayed. Im used to not being that represented in media with most being bad representations, but to have it happen to me from a game and company i was so invested in made me straight up quit the game entirely. Even recently after finding out that a lot of indian culture was represented amazingly from food to music to culture and history; the fact that there was no one that i could point to and identify with other than the dendro archon who is a tiny child thats whiter than chalk has nade me realise i may never play genshin again without being reminded of that feeling of betrayal i felt (as dumb as it is to feel betrayed by a game). And then on top of that, seeing all the racists dismissing any criticism and always saying its just white women who care, just cemented that i will never return. Maybe mihoyos next game will bring me back tho idk, but HSR and ZZZ definitely didn't.
You're a fool for thinking mihomo is caring about their fanbase... Genshit is no longer the game back in 2020 bro.. there's a reason why wuthering Waves is destroying genshit so hard both in sales and overall gameplay and content.. I won't be surprised if the 4th anniversary reward will be as trash as the 3rd one... Kuro > mihomo #genshitcouldnever
Was literally looking for a video on this. Part of me hopes that with ZZZ having pretty much every character have a unique skeleton model means we will get more diversity in skin color as well from mihoyo. I'm pale as a ghost but man, I don't wanna just see people that look like me in a game! I want to see more diverse character designs!
You seem extremely sweet and easygoing. Definitely calmly explained the situation and I'm subscribing on both my channels. Thanks for talking about this 🙏💜
I'd say their racist based or at least went to mainly being colorist my reason is the hillichurls in development there dances were based if poc dances originally there was a whole video that went around showing what they used as reference of the hillichurls in early development so its like even if they changed they still have issue with poc.
is genshin racist? yes. and those who say genshin isn't tend to say it's us players who are looking at this from a westernized lens. in china and in the chinese communities in other countries, there is a term called "white left", basically progressive and liberal ideas. and our concerns are just brushed aside after receiving this label. BITCH I'M ETHNICALLY CHINESE AND YES GENSHIN IS STILL RACIST. Hoyo is obviously pandering to east asian beauty standards of lighter skins being pretty (plus xenophobia/racism against darker skin ppl like south asians, africans, latin america, oceana, etc) and making waifus. Their designs are amazing but it could be so much better if they just stop being racist. edit: I'm not american, grew up in asia so it's not even a western progressive "bai zuo" 白左. It's just plain old racism.
New Natlan trailer confirms this even more. Why are they allergic to showing other races & skin tones. I'm not a woke leftist. I'm not somebody that specifically looks for diversity & inclusivity in my entertainment. It's just that I absolutely hate it when game studios can't just be accurate to the culture/history of the place they are supposed to be representing. I hate that there is a black MC in Assassin's Creed Japan. I hate that there is a black Angrboda in Norse GOW. And I equally hate that there are white characters in Sumeru & Natlan. It has nothing to do with my political ideology. The game studios are just stupid af if they can't do justice to a certain irl location/culture/mythologies in their games.
2:48 most people from middle east are not even that dark skinned, Turkish people are legitimately almost full white yet they designed some people with Turkish race in the game very dark-skinned. Not talked about enough
Absolutely yes. Whether it be the outright refusal to make any kind of skin tone darker than a slight tan, or the comments that defend said racism by "China has different beauty standards..!" When even the Chinese community of the game has questioned why there is the CULTURES of our Mexican, African, mesoamerican, Nigerian, hawaiin, and north American brothers and sisters but not their skin tones. So much so that even VA's of some genshin characters have come out to speak on the blatant disrespect and racism towards such cultures and representations. And ALSO, every TANNED ("darker") character's kits are downright horrendous. Edit: Not to mention the fact that the characters color palettes would look so much better if darker skin! Iansan is the "darkest character" so far and she's quite literally gray..
This killed my interest in genshin. One thing thats been annoying me is the whole, white “insert identity“ people exist there too. Clearly the white Mexicans do not know their history because color is very important, hence the caste system was put in place. Blatantly discriminating against those of color. So the whole argument is tone deaf.
I used to love this game so much. I remember during the pandemic I'd get super into the story and everything. I enjoyed the attention they'd put into culture, environment, food, music, etc. And then Sumeru happened. "Ah the people in the forest are obviously paler cuz of the shade" bruh that is the dumbest excuse I've ever heard people spew. Then there was the desert with Cyno only looking dark cuz he was literally standing next to characters with #FFFFFF for a skin tone. And all the enemies having locs and darker tones but nope for player characters you can count them on one hand. And now Natlan. One of the characters is literally named after Olorun of the Yoruba religion. They effing massacred him 😭 It's so frustrating cuz Hoyo's "mission statement" talks about how they wanna do better and stuff but look at what we get here. It sucks.
How else do you explain there being no black characters and only 6 with a light tan, including regions based on middle east/latin america/africa. The only explanation is they are colorist or they want to appeal to a colorist society (china) to make more money, it's not unknown that their ideal beauty standard is having the lightest skin possible. If it bothers you that much just stop spending money in the game, but I doubt this is gonna change anytime soon in chinese media
Cz in China we just dont care about race so much, instead what we care is culture, which is really representative for us. We have many races in China share similar culture, and we all recognize ourselves as the same kind of people. So its very easy for us to ignore about the skin color issue.
I think overall we should advocate for more characters of darker skin complexions rather than the demands I usually see for pre-existing characters to be darker because they "aren't black enough" for what people feel they are supposed to be representing, I do wish hoyoverse would communicate with it's community and listen to feedback but overall it feels wrong from both sides because as someone of mixed race and just other experiences I've witnessed happening to others some people are just lighter than people would stereotypcally thing would represent the ethnicity or race they are apart of while on the other hand supporting this game using lighter complexions when they base these nations as a whole off of real life cultures with a vast abundance of rich history is extremely concerning when they have so many resources they could use to create such a diverse cast like the nations and powers these bright colorful characters come with, unfortunately there probably isn't much hope if the future natlan characters are revealed and are lighter than the community would like but we still can cherish these characters and not dispise them for the designs their developers have given them while again advocating that they add future characters that can fit the mold that people are requesting for within the regions that they should be included or there may be a lack of.
For years, starting from Xinyan and Kaeya. Continuing with 'entire' green lantern region, after Dehya situation. The answer was always MAYBE. After pyro region characters, UNDENIABLE YES.
@@ItzKudu it is still a fact though. i just can't be bothered to sit through the 100th video of someone talking about the race problem in genshin. i don't say this to discredit your video, im just saying.
@@willbill-is4ptYou clicked on the video though? You continuing to engage with these videos will only ensure them popping up on your page more. If you don’t care, that’s fine but there’s no reason for you to try and discredit people who do care.
@@confusedgrapes349 if you read my reply, then you'd see i said "i don't say this to discredit your video". i actually don't discredit anyone at all, and i get that wanting inclusion is a valid thing to talk about, but hoyoverse isn't going to bat an eye unless there is a BIG uproar in the CN community, and that is a FACT.
its not even only a genshin theme this happens in hsr, hi3, tot and even zzz hsr has arlan and penacony, arlan was supported as a child by a rich white girl, on top of that he has skills such as "Shackle Breaker" "Frenzied Punishment" and "Swift Harvest", on top of being white washed on emojis Penacony is a planet based on jazz culture, the main founders of jazzz were poc hi3 has many outfits of orientalist origin being used sexually, on top of Carole calling herself "as dark as she can be" while being whitewashed to hell and back, and her mother being represented as unattractive tot also has orientalist outfits being used sexually zzz not only has a blackface character, but also mainly uses hip hop and rap culture for their songs with also no poc characters other than nekomata who got whitewashed on release arguably honkai is more racist than genshin
Haven't seen the video, going to speak on the thumbnail. For context, I am Indian. I genuinely dislike how this community uses Nahida as a poster child for Genshins colourism when infact she is NOT. Nahida is inspired by the Indian god of wisdom, Saraswati, who is believed to be draped in gold and white clothes, whilst having very fair skin. Literally no other Indian has had a problem with Nahida being fair due to her inspirations being crystal clear. Yet people who have nothing to do with India or Indian culture come out and fight on our behalf. If we saw a problem with how Genshin portrayed us, we would fight for ourselves. We don't need Twitter warriors who haven't touched grass in decades to fight for us. Stop virtue signalling and leave the protection of cultures to the people of said cultures.
It's really amazing how opinions change from one language to another while Hispanics believe that it doesn't matter for the most part. English speakers are so keen to believe that this is a real problem. But well, I'm not entirely against the fact that they should have made the characters brunette, but I'm against thinking that there shouldn't even be a white character. That they recolor me all, even Citlali who is inspired by an axolotl, an animal that is white.
I have no issue with white characters in natlan. My issue honestly the 1:7 ratio they have for natlan (at the moment. These might not be the only natlan characters they release in the future).
Damn not what I expected clicking on this video which IG is a good thing. First of all lessgo P.R. , second I think this is an interesting subject but while I have never played genshin and don't plan on, I think they should try to encorporate more people but I just hope they do it well because I've seen cases where companies do like the bare minimum for inclusivity and it leaves people MORE hurt than impressed but it would be cool to see something like this happen in a game as large as genshin, I think it would be a very interesting case. Also yes I came from the OW stuff but I applaud you for trying out a new thing, even if some people may not find this type of content comfortable. 👍
I wouldnt blame china or chinese people for the shortcomings of hoyo. other games, including gacha games like R1999, have black characters in them. Otherwise I agree
It is racism but I honestly am ok with the designs, I will pull for them anyway, it doesn't matter what color they are. But it is racism, I mean, they are a chinese company, it was expected
I wouldn't be absolutely disdainful of genshin's style if it weren't for sumeru. I mean-- 95% of the characters are white in the middle/south east asain people region and the Archon who's supposed to represent it is literally 500 year old ghost w h i t e l o l i. Felt like they were mocking us for all we could have been worth. Genshin has wonderful representations of culture but the fact that they're so scared of representing other skin colors in their playables seems unreasonsable in a game that takes from real life cultures. The worst part is that this game tries to tackle issues of racism and bigotry (see Melusines and Eremites vs Rainforest Sumerians, though the Eremites vs Rainforest one is half racism and half elitism). Genshin's roster looks incredibly good, my only ask is that they extend that to people who are actually darker skinned and not just tan
I mean like, I don't wanna be a hater or nothin but I honestly just enjoy the game, characters etc regardless of skin colour ;-; I could care less if they make a character is dark / white / pale but it's also a fantasy world. Genshin's excuse against the Sun's physics is: A. Teyvat has it's own laws B. Fake Sky theory which WOULD make sense for why most characters r lighter
What this company wants, is only cultures, environments, architecture, etc from real world locations. It's the best selling point. Elemental reaction system from 2010 Magicka is only one thing. Music lovers can understand why sonic fans love Sonic Unleashed soundtrack, stuff like that. They don't care about it's residents. It's like putting Antarctica in your game, and replace all penguins with humans. Edit: White humans, or AT BEST Lois Griffin colored...
Ehh… I see where you are coming from, but playing safe ≠ racism in my opinion. Western game companies forcing inclusivity has resulted in lots of backlash, so maybe that’s another argument for it.
Then what is racism ?? You can love the game but you don't have to excuse them of their blatant stubborness to not bring a tan character when this company literally didn't want to hear it from their fan base on any improvement in game for 3yrs and doing their own thing They can add a tan character they simple don't want to
@@Snowbell247 I’m not excusing them of their “stubbornness”. I acknowledge that they are not adding tan characters simply because they don’t want to. I just think this belittles the idea of racism in a certain way. In any case, game developers don’t really have to do anything that their community wants. They will only do it if they actually suffer losses and stuff. So yeah, even if part of the community have been complaining about it for a while, if it is not affecting their income, then they won’t bother with it.
Warning essay I feel like this is a pretty big discussion that often gets misconstrued on either side, but I do want to make a few things clear before I dive in. One and most importantly there should be more skin variety in the game period, debating that is such a dumb thing to do, gacha’s thrive off of character diversity there's no reason why Genshin shouldn't be doing what every other gacha has been doing when it comes to this aspect. Two I can understand why the opposing side can be at times vitriolic because before someone like kudu came along who gave a very reasonable and imo good take on this subject, there was x twitter person coming along black washing characters like Nahida and Dori to name a few. While I disagree with the direction Hoyo has taken with said character design in certain aspects that does not excuse blackwashing characters. it is extremely fucking cringe and depending on your motives, i would argue as someone who is black is just another form of racism. IMHO no matter what views we all have on this subject the above talking points/sentiments and or beliefs shouldn't be in the convo. side note i would argue the hex code argument is a slippery slope, growing up in the hood similar questions or assumptions based on my friends skin or the way that they would talk, often led to other black people calling them “whitewashed” or “not black enough” i understand your intentions but i think it's important to be very careful using that argument due to what some people can internalized from it. (not blaming you just sharing my pov about that)
With that out of the way, is this racism/colorism personally i don't think it is, i do however think there's a mixture of problems that come together and culminate to make it feel that it is, said problems include but are not limited to. #1 a divisive community that hates change. (See Im theater, Zhongli fiasco and abyss difficulty as everything that ends up being discussed with this community including this topic ends up being controversial.) #2 Lighting and brightness that makes the already lacking disparities between characters more prominent. (character design as a whole looks a lot better with the gamma all the way down) #3 Concern for not only the CCP but potential crazy fans in the community. (The president of Hoyo almost got assassinated over a fucking swimsuit skin.) #4 the poor reception with character kits for said melanated characters. With this particular point I want to make this abundantly clear, the issues with these characters often just stem from incompetence or character balancing not race. (Starting off, Dehya's kit isn't bad it's just her numbers, for Xinyan her element just doesn't do her justice for her kit and tbf Hoyo barely knew what they were doing making units at the time. Sethos is good, Cyno is good, Kaeya is good, but freeze doesn't work nowadays, and melt is limited, Candace(c6) is good her problem is there's no point of using her unless it's for a niche team like Arle vape because hydro app is covered by like 6 other characters for every scenario.) I will agree that this particular issue sucks because even if the characters aren't bad, the fact that there's very little use cases for them (nowadays due to so many options) and they are darker skinned feels like the devs are doing this on purpose. When it's probably in actuality just laziness impeding these designs as this happens a lot with the four stars and the five stars depending on where we are in the region's patch. (looking at you Kaveh and Chirori) Chiori is good, please don't mistake my criticism of her design as her being a bad unit because she is far from that. When it comes to Sumeru I did feel although, we didn't get as appropriate representation with the playable cast. The nation of Sumeru was very well done in terms of cultural aspects and religion-based practices/stories (as seen with the cycle of samsara) and with that in mind I think people are jumping the gun a bit too early with Natlan since, there is a lot that has been purposely left out in the trailer but that's just speculation and all we can do is wait and see. Huge write up aside congrats on the algorithm hitting your video kudu and I hope my views on this situation probably gave you some food for thought or a new take away and even if it didn't, I wish you and everyone else who kept this a respectable discussion a good one, take care peeps👍🏿.
I agree on the lack of dark skin characters. I really wanna to see something like arjuna alter from fgo on genshin. But regions are just inspired by real cultures, not people. I dont want to see people attacking white skin characters now because of his supposed real ethnic background.
it does feel weird how fetishistic the way people ask for representation in the game saying stuff like "where's the melanin?" like it just feels so weird to hear, why cant we just say "wheres the representation?" i know saying melanin is a lot more straightforward but it really feels like it diminishes the entire purpose of representation in a game
I disagree strongly, just asking for more melanin aka color isn't fetishizing at all. We already have darker enemies and NPCs so there's no defending the lack of color outside of colorism and money.
Is genshin racist? Bruh from the manga where they discriminate murata's people to fontaine's unfair melusine treatment in the past. I can confidently say genshin is racist like holy shit. Every region has one shape or another form of racism So ofcourse it extends to character designs and kit
Genshit infacts lighting engine is complete dogsrit. You cant rely on hex codes AT ALL until patch comes out. Kaeya and Xinyan are ONLY 2 with the darkest skin color from ALL the playable characters. Starting from green lantern region EVERY "darker" skin character got a lighter color compared to Kaeya and Xinyan. That includes Electric 5*. I call it Lois Griffin color. In some lighting its brown ONLY at night, fully white during the day. It's horrible. Its funny, when actual white skin characters, in this horrible lighting engine, can hit almost perfect FFFFFF on the hex code. Purest white. It's tragic. These new characters AT BEST, probably Dehya/Lois Griffin/every 3.0 region playable character color. At worst dude could be actually white, not sure about geo child. Update: Well would you look at that, still got it!
Yall can try to have your brown characters and black characters just stay off Mualani she's based off Polynesian/Hawaiian im so happy my race is being put into game but please stay off Mualani.
@@ItzKuduI’m brown and I don’t care about a fictional character being same color as me or being white, I don’t need approval or representation from a Chinese game or fictional characters, I don’t have inferiority complex bc I don’t see ppl as my color or ethnicity in such irrelevant stuff like a game 😂
@@An_dres_art if you don’t care it’s perfectly fine but like I said in the video, you can’t have a white skin toned person represent a group of people who are darker skinned. Gonna say the same example, you don’t use a white person to represent black people/the black community and their culture and vise versa
Racist nah, but they do seem to have preference when it comes to skin tone. We are jumping to fast into the gutter here, they have barely shown the Natlan, so reserve our judgement when they actually make a statement or act that is in deed racist. At least question them first, before making a bold claim such as them being racist.
Racist? They have worked hard to explore and showcase different cultures, if you don't see any black characters it doesn't mean they are racist If you don't see any characters on Natlan that have dark complexion you can say that the game is racist Japan closed it's borders around year 1500-1800 like the story in Inazuma and black slavery took place on the same time, putting black on the game would suddenly make the game racist because people will think blacks are slaves Liyue and Inazuma characters have huge eyes, is it racism??? NO, it's all about color right? Every media needs to include " BLACKS " because if not, they are definitely racist Making Dr.Who, Albert Wesker, Cleopatra, Etc BLACK ARE FAR MORE RACIST THAN A GAME,MOVIE ETC THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THEM
I think the issue stems from Hoyo wanting to represent a culture without the actual population.. Not sure where the leap in logic came from regarding slaves though. Inazuma is inspired by Japan, not repeating historical events 😐
So many things wrong with this statement. First off, the game DOES NOT take place in 1500's-1800's. This is a made-up fictional world and Inzuma does not share the same story as what happened in he 1500-1800's. Raiden literally closes the nations borders because of her own ignorance and the fear that the nation would get destroyed in war. Second off, all the characters in Genshin share similar eyes. Liyue and Inazuma does not purposefully make their unit's eyes bigger lmao. Who hurt you? Also doesn't One Piece feature a BUNCH of dark skinned people?
Ahh yes... a fictional, open-world, action role-playing game adding a person of a darker skin toned character (who doesn't even really have to be black) is going to make the game racist.... I'm ngl the fact that'd Kudu mostly talked about Hispanic people in the video, and you just somehow brought in why black people shouldn't be in the game, is beyond me. Also youre acting like the Black community went out of their way to ask for someone black to play as Dr. Who, Albert Wesker or Cleopatra. Idk tho im just a "BLACK" that doesn't play genshin.
@@ItzKudu I know that Inazuma is a fictional world but given the real world context, it will suddenly become racist if you suddenly include dark skin below 5.0 and if you don't get it I'm not gonna argue with you because all you see is skin color No one hurts me it's just I'm tired of this woke bullshit, I don't see color until someone claims everything is racist and it slowly makes me racist towards that group of people and yes One Piece includes a bunch of dark skin characters but blacks in the real world are represented by fishman on that fictional pirate story. Fishman being a stronger than average person, dark past then some become racist themselves because of their past while other are trying to move on and make things better is an accurate representation of black community Again I'm not gonna argue after this since it's clear that you only see color and nothing else Keep up the great video because you will succeed on your goal, you don't know it yet but this kind of content is one of the reasons people are slowly becoming racist deep inside but don't worry they don't usually show it outside even your friends if you have one One day you will succeed in bringing a new generations of racist
@@spamserketThe two territories that Israel wants to get from the conflict is Judea and SUMERIA wich holds great cultural significance to jews. Go read a history book.
I don't think you discuss this if this is an American company product. Have you yelled for yellow or brown face before? You can give comments but don't use the racist words. People are tired of DEI concept. If you like other skin, you can try Black myth Wukong.
@@whatswrongwithngas damm bruh, atleast consider what I might've been trying to say before throwing labels, I was referring to the Chinese censorship not the behaviour of their citizens
@@spamserket ah, yes "bigot," the favorite word of black people who forces their race into anything even if it's culturally inappropriate just so they can feel "represented" and will point to racism the moment you disagree with their opinion types of people like you are the very reason why racism still exists to this day lmao
@@kissshot2261 ahh yes, blame the minority for the discrimination targeted at them, you love to see it. On the contrary, bullheaded people like you are the reason why racism still exists. People aren’t allowed to be upset about misrepresentation, according to you, so by that standard you shouldn’t be upset you just got called a bigot (although really, I’m not attacking you, it’s really because you are perpetuating bigoted standards that do more harm than good.) It’s like a bully refusing to stop bullying because their victim got upset with them. It’s not great, and I hope you can think more about this beyond petty reasonings. Racism has been around for a very long time and will continue to be if you still choose to be petty like this.
audio might be scuffed at around 3 minutes into the video up until 6 minutes. sadly got a copyright on a persona song so UA-cam muted the audio thus making my voice weird.
another thing i would like to mention is that they could differentiate between france and germany (two tiny little european countries RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER my state itself is bigger than germany) and for sumeru they mixed so many things and doris whole design situation... then natlan too?? Yes i get that mond is also like that but it portrays germany quite accurately ( i have way too many german friends) then liyue of course its a chinese game, then inazuma is like japan but after all that?? Honestly thats not the problem tho i can deal with the amalgamation of cultures (when i was 4 i thought aladdin is indian but im indian and medium deep skinned-) but the skin thing is absolutely the worst considering colonialism and current beauty standards and the racist people-
100% yes. If they can make dark enemies with protective black hairstyles (wicks and locs) they can make them playable too. It’s definitely racism
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Dehya and Candace literally exist
So two people out of the sea of white colored peopled In the game? Not to mention how nahida canonically is supposed to be brown but was sold as a white colored character? Lol
Also keep in mind that dehya is supposed to be Arabic. So her color tone matches somewhat well to the group she represents
@@ItzKudu Nahida canonically is an avatar of Irminsul, the White Tree, ok?
What's strange to me is that even Asian people come in many shades, including darker ones. So, the only thing that makes sense to me is colorism/racism. They have made and still make so much money for them to worry about not selling a character. It's a shame
Exactly
Hundred of years before the sinosphere(cultural sphere of japan, china, korea and indo-china countries) even interact with europeans or africans they already saw paler skin tones as more attractive and a beauty standart, that's why japanese geishas, for example, paint their faces with rice powder.
Calling it racism or colorism, would be the equivalent of calling brazilians racist for putting tanner skin tones as our beauty standart, or any african countries by seeing darker skin tones as their beauty standart. It is just the way, how , diferent cultures arround the world created their own beauty standarts across thousands of years.
@@lucasbessa6388 it is colorism though. I'm from Indonesia and a lot of Asians from east Asian countries look down on us for having more darker skin tone
White skin is seen as the ideal skin color.
@@alopex7430 ok, so you wanna force billions of people too forget/deny their own culture and beuty standarts that evolved throught thousands of years, just so they will create characters with your skin tone in their games? quite selfish, dont you think?
Where i am from(Brazil), being tanner is the beauty standard(i'm japanese descendent), i am looked down in my own country, but I cant force people to call me beautiful, they have their right, to find some things more attractive than others, It don't make them racist or colorist.
In China specifically, (WHERE HOYO IS BASED) only like 0.01% of the population is actually dark so uhm Ig Hoyo has never seen a dark person but saw the culture :|
I would say they aren’t Racist, but Colorist. And I differentiate the 2, because they always go HAM with cultural appreciation. They do the scenery, food, lore, and music of these cultures justice! But then the skin tones are CRANKED to the whitest gates of high heaven. 6/82 currently playable characters that are TAN (not even dark) is insane.
Very true yeah
I'd still say they are somewhat racist considering one of the new characters designed, chasca, who's name is from Andean culture, is dressed as a cowboy. And cowboys would hunt andean natives
no, with natlan they don’t even care anymore it’s just straight racism
@@jenniegimm We haven't even gotten a lick of story yet tf you mean bro???
@@minecraftboifanpro9752bro just stop we've already seen enough.
what's kind of pissing me off personaly is that they do people of melanin but only for enemies or NPC like ??? But still their design are cool
Them not having more darker casts just sounds awful. It reads as "your culture is worthy, but not your people"
Only you say that
@@NikiEX what?
@@NikiEX no there's another person from that culture who said it on twitter along with many others
@@CarrotSpunk. Are different cultures. And people think differently, I personally feel that they represented my culture well with Citlali. The other characters don't matter to me because although Kinich is from Mexico I feel that he is more of a Mayan culture and I feel that he has not known that. Since the Mayan culture is shared between Mexico, Guatemala and Belize. I can only defend Citlali.
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i wish people stopped accepting low/lazy designs. they play it too safe! the designs would be so much better if they stopped hitting copy and paste with each region. some of these designs look a lot nicer in the edits, you can hardly see their skin tattoos because they're too scared to make them look dark!
So fucking real
Different skin color doesn’t automatically make the whole design lazy, but they sure are playing a lil too safe.
Skin color aside, their still Great nonetheless
They're not making them dark skinned because they would make significantly less money if they started selling dark skinner characters
@@crayyx exactly also that all the dark skinned charcters are pretty meh kit wise.. except cyno to an extent i guesss.. which is telling lmao
@@crayyx I wish they realized how much people cared for their few tan characters! like dehya, in china i heard they raised funds for charity because of her trailer coming out. the #fixdehya trend went on for weeks but they just don't care :(
Funny that the enemies/NPC are the only brown models. We have Dehya and probably 4 others at least but still 😂 I guess all the other players bathe in sunblock
I'm Egyptian! I'm not white nor brown I'm tanned so when I got realize this about genshin I felt disappointed cuz I'd see all these cool character designs and be like AT LEAST 'can we have one slightly darker character..?' Like we only have cyno, dehya and kaeya that I can remember and they're dark yes, but it's literally the darkest shade genshin has but it's not the darkest shade that actually exists- like genshin is such a cool popular game that almost everyone knows of not just an Asian game so if you want to include people of other cultures THEN DO IT RIGHT😭
@@Yukio.. so real 🙌🏽
the dendro boy wouldve looked so much better if he was darker 😭
he looks so goofy being this light tbh
Real asf, all the edits of people making them darker is so nice
Isn’t that black washing tho
No. Not when the characters are literally supposed to be darker based off the group of people they are from.
@@hm.5003they are litteraly supposed to be based of people/culture of African/South American which are prominently colored and hoyo couldn’t even make a single dark character this isint black washing its pointing out hoyos blatant racism
@@hm.5003yeah. This people are going to the extreme here. the region is just an inspiration, not a real location.
Hoyoverse studio/office be like:
" I fear no man, But that thing...
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it’s strange how hoyo takes so much inspiration from a variety of cultures around the world and yet I can’t differentiate between the different groups the game tries to depict. at the end of the day, it’s frustrating to see this behavior in 2024. Chinese ppl aren’t even all on the lighter scale 😭 there are plenty of them who are on the darker scale of skin color. this is clearly colorism into play. generally, ppl with darker skin color get picked on and judged and looked down upon more than those with lighter complexions. this isn’t exclusive to just Asian countries though, even in Latino countries, colorism is a huge problem. I would love to see more TRUE representation in such a popular game that claims to take inspiration from so many diverse cultures
Type shit
This is also so much worse because it’s supposed to be PRECOLONIAL Latin America, Australia, and even Africa who are all dark skinned so the excuse of some latinos and Africans being whiter doesn’t even work here💀
no idea why u got so many negative comments., ur completely right. its 100% racism, i grew up in china so i would know, there's tons of racism pointed towards black people. hoyoverse has been making npcs darkskinned in both genshin and honkai star rail. but they rarely ever make them playable, most of the time they throw in a ''dark'' character on release just to have them there for the sake of inclusivity, in china there's many ads and posters that involve racism. from my experience. chinese teenagers/young adults. are not nearly as racist as the elderly, especially if they grew up in a bigger city. but many companies are very racist when it comes to marketing etc. i've seen movie posters in china where they would straight up remove the black person from the poster, or make them extremely small and barely recognizable, and this does NOT happen to any white/asian people. so yeah, racism.
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You're raised in China? Why I never see this shit in China. Stop telling lies. In China we just dont care about race so much, instead what we care is culture, which is really representative for us. We have many races in China share similar culture, and we all recognize ourselves as the same kind of people. So its very easy for us to ignore about the skin color issue.
That is not true if you know Chinese history.
I hate how when Genshin released the anniversary awards big Genshin streamers had no problem making video and calling it out. But when it comes to literal colourism it’s mute. Why is it always smaller creators that always have the morals to calll them out?
Yeahhhh that’s actually something I thought about the other day
@@ItzKudu Precisely when people were disappointed with the anniversary awards they'd make video going "Hoyo you need to listen to your community this is what we want". But when it's colourism it's "yeah ,whatever ,I'm not surprised "
@@jacket-uz8sp yeah :/
yes yes yes! because they dare take inspiration from cultures yet refuse to properly represent the people they profit off.
Also other people have pointed out how hoyoverse tends to give their "dark skin" characters white hair like, 80% of the time. The reason is because the white/light colored hair makes those characters appear darker than they really are.
Also something else, Arlan from honkai star rail, his skill power is called "shackle breaker" ??
He also has a second power called "swift harvest" like this cannot be real....
No way 💀💀💀
Is it racist? Yes, 100%. Sadly I think it comes down to it being a Chinese company. It's the same thing that happened with Star Wars years back when they removed the Black actor from the promotional material for Chinese posters. They want to use the culture for the region but remove Black/Brown people from it. A lot of Asian media gets criticized for this, even Kpop constantly gets dragged for appropriating from Black/Brown and gay people while simultaneously excluding them and being colorist.
It's sad this is still a thing but it's not surprising.
True. As a matter of fact, Japan have been more than willing to add dark skin characters from other countries origins. Be it games or anime. They have tones of Indian characters and all of them are darker than any genshin characters. Same with black characters or other dark skinned asian. Even making some as main characters.
And when they make a story set with an african or Latam country as main inspo they actually try to make the characters looks like the inspiration 🫠
@@narudayo5053 It's one of those things that can't be defended anymore. If they only wanted light skinned characters then the regions shouldn't be based on places and cultures where the people aren't White. It's beyond shady to have another region where they keep the names and visuals from the real world but they just lighten everyone and we're all supposed to pretend that isn't blatantly appropriation and racism. I hate this is still an issue in 2024.
Luckily Japan doesn't seem to do this as often anymore but my god, China needs to get this together, it's so tired.
That is not true. You can try black myth wukong.
I’m particularly not too bothered by the designs we have so far, but I do hope for more representation for Latin American culture, or any indigenous representation in general.
Yeah I really like the hyrdo girls outfit and the shark so I’m def pulling for her
@@ItzKudu outfit wise, they all are great in their own right, i mean, over the years, hoyo had always been pretty great in representing each culture with a fantasy twist.
But if it comes to skin color, hoyo definitely seems to be struggling to fully embrace it.
@@thelittleal1212they always go hard on the outfit design
But cmon a little melanin won’t hurt
@@Hurrhurrrrnaurrrr2 as a person of color(half south eastern and living in South America), I don’t mind as much over the skin color as others do.
But of course, some more darkish coloring is always appreciated
@@thelittleal1212 I feel like hoyo is on some kinda ccp leash.
I mean if r1999 and arknights can do it why can’t they? I’ll still enjoy the game and lore but that doesn’t mean I’ll shit on the colorism haha
the people who are going "oh but there's pale people in these countries too yada yada", they couldn't be more dense and out of touch, like bfr the characters are literally WHITE, i know that we cope about cyno, dehya and candace being actually dark, but that's just not the real truth. hoyoverse is racist and colorist in ALL of their games, there's no denying on this matter, is disrespectful to cultures that they appropriate and monetize from. I was so sad seeing the characters on the teaser, i like the game and the designs are not bad, i loved the little hopi girl and sumeru is my favorite nation but this was definitely the final push for me to stop playing, it's simply ridiculous
RIGHT like "oh well there are white people in ____ too!" hate to break it to u but there are also dark-skinned people.... yeah..
*The fact that the ones with the darker skin colors are either NPCs or enemies are really telling. Not a single Archon is of color too. Like we're being told we're only either against them or should be out of their way basically. Never allowed to be given a position of power. Specially the fact that some of these characters are actually based on BLACK people!??? Yikes, Hoyo. BIG YIKES. You'd think being in the country of heat, they'd have more melanin in them. They'd be sunburnt by now. Their skin not adapted to their environment and don't talk to me about their tan. It's the most white-washed version of a brown I've ever seen in my life. At this point, I can only hope for Khanriah because of Kaeya (HE'S DARKER THAN ANY OTHER CURRENTLY REVEALED PLAYABLE CHARACTER FROM NATLAN WHAT-), but at this point, that's just me deluding myself and I'm so close to not even caring anymore.*
Bro Hoyo said “If your black or a person of color and you don’t see anybody that looks like you, even though we are using your culture as inspiration, deal with it”
To be honest, I wasn’t surprised with the Natlan release because of how the Sumeru release was treated. If they can get away with as little to none tan characters in one nation, then it shouldn’t be a surprise they would try it again.
Yes, yes it is. They have black/brown enemies yet no playable characters. And even whitewash the tan characters they have. But I would say they are more colorist than racist.
People often forget how racist some Asian countries can be and how scared artists and devs can be to create dark skins without offending anyone.
Also, people hated on XinYan a fuck ton back in the day, both model like and art. I don’t like they haven’t tried to make more tanned or dark skin characters until now, but I kinda get it??
I understand their take from The financial side. Chinese media typically doesn't like dark-skinned people so they're prob afraid the new units won't sell well in a Chinese market
Also I saw mentioned in a Reddit comment that the originals were darker but got rejected by the higher ups ..
seems more Colorist, not racist.
Based asf video! As a creole person I always appreciate seeing people who at least sort of resemble me to some degree in a media/video games, given representation for people of color are very lacking or they're shoehorned in in some weird way that no one asked for (like blackwashing pre-existing characters or making things political).
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I wouldn't say they're racist as they did a very good job on the cultural aspects and the enviroments and music, if they were racist, they wouldn't have gone out of their way to implement it in game in the most authentic way possible.
When Sumeru first came out and most of the characters are white except for a few, I just didn't think much of it, I thought it was okay because they're in a rainforest (and desert) and was inspired by the Middle East (including India as well), not saying that there aren't darker skinned people in the regions too. So (I'm just assuming here, please correct me if I'm wrong) the community decided that while it was controversial to not have darker skinned characters in game, they mostly decided to look past it and let hoyo cook for natlan because that was the region inspired by Aztec, South America and Africa, so they waited, hoping that hoyo would take that chance to create more diverse characters in the region.
After watching the trailer though, I was pretty okay with it until the community pointed out the problem with the skin tones of the characters, I was like Oh no, Twitter's gonna have a field day with this, and I was right, everyone was not happy about it. I am mostly neutral on this but I do understand the outrage over this and it is reasonably so, I have to agree that there should be more diverse characters in natlan more skin tones in variety, since Natlan is the Pyro nation and it's hot it's sunny and humid, quite similar to Sumeru (I digress). So I'm on the side of the community is totally on the right for this and you are right to bring this up along with the other creators.
PS: Let's not bring Furina as a sxample for this, the poor girl has suffered enough already for 500 years, let her live in life in peace with her mac and cheese XDDD. Jokes inside, I agree with your points. Hopefully this will get fixed and will be water under the bridge
Also, I'm Asian in case anyone is wondering
Lol I love furina she’s my fav archon atm. It’s just easy to use her as a reference since she’s the only merch I own for the characters lol but yeah girl went through a lot 🙌🏽😭
I believe when they started the project, they were ambitious to make it epic. But under Chinese players’ pressure ,they have to change. You can see 4 years ago they released the PV,they used a black character to represent Natlan
Yeah
I actually tried counting the characters in the game that weren’t white and while there were some…it didn’t feel like a balanced number
And I also noticed at one point that the children all have quite short dresses….it might be nothing
short answer: yes
long answer: of course
Wow you are a gorgeous man. Nice vid, unfortunate that the comments here are insufferable, people arent even hiding their racism at this point.
@@DuckologyPhD thank you! Yeahhhhh it’s wild how riled up ignorant people get 💀🙌🏽
The issue lies deep in Asian culture. In the past skin tone was a status symbol, from the emperors never seeing the sun and the workers always being under it, and the foundation of that belief system is still in play. Racist? No. They still put immense detail into the cultures they portray, they don't mock or stereotype. Colourist is more in line with it. They cherry pick aspects from the cultures, namely skin tones, in order to appeal to their main audience, which is Asia
Hoyo actually has quite the history with this stuff. In Honkai Impact 3rd Carole was self conscious about her skin colour. Kaeya is described as "Suspicious" and Xinyan is described as "Scary" in game which is... y'know lmao. Since Inazuma it feels like the company has matured a little in their execution of things so at least all the desert dwellers (Cyno, Candace and Dehya) had a tad of melanin. But it did not go unnoticed how many enemies have considerably darker skin than the playable characters, especially now they're doing it again with Natlan
I will say though, I immensely dislike the editing of characters to give them darker skin. Even when the artistic intention is flawed by our standards, I find it important that the artist's work is kept in the state it was intended to be in, and that we instead criticise the source, not mess around with the product. Can you imagine if a black character was released in Western media and it was whitewashed by the East because of 'culture'? There is a problem in Hoyo's cherry picking of parts of the world by our standards, but I feel there's a right way to go about it. If you disagree with this small line of argument then I'd be happy to talk in the replies of this comment
That's my analysis of the whole situation
I preregistered for genshin and played since release. I was always a MASSIVE fan of genshin and mihoyo (as my wallet is very aware). I was always aware that the characters were 99% white, but assumed that would change in Sumeru, and as an indian with islamic heritage an indian and MENA inspired region was so exciting too. But i remember watching the first sumeru preview live and being flashbanged by how white the characters were. It was soul crushing and i genuinely felt betrayed. Im used to not being that represented in media with most being bad representations, but to have it happen to me from a game and company i was so invested in made me straight up quit the game entirely.
Even recently after finding out that a lot of indian culture was represented amazingly from food to music to culture and history; the fact that there was no one that i could point to and identify with other than the dendro archon who is a tiny child thats whiter than chalk has nade me realise i may never play genshin again without being reminded of that feeling of betrayal i felt (as dumb as it is to feel betrayed by a game).
And then on top of that, seeing all the racists dismissing any criticism and always saying its just white women who care, just cemented that i will never return.
Maybe mihoyos next game will bring me back tho idk, but HSR and ZZZ definitely didn't.
You're a fool for thinking mihomo is caring about their fanbase... Genshit is no longer the game back in 2020 bro.. there's a reason why wuthering Waves is destroying genshit so hard both in sales and overall gameplay and content.. I won't be surprised if the 4th anniversary reward will be as trash as the 3rd one... Kuro > mihomo #genshitcouldnever
That's so sad, but that's also how I feel about Natlan. If they don't fix this, I'm done fr
Was literally looking for a video on this. Part of me hopes that with ZZZ having pretty much every character have a unique skeleton model means we will get more diversity in skin color as well from mihoyo. I'm pale as a ghost but man, I don't wanna just see people that look like me in a game! I want to see more diverse character designs!
Banger background music choice btw, good taste 👍
Thx :3
Where my melanated people at?!
According to Hoyo, right here ✋
wassup my brotha
@@leesa._.nah according to hoyo we’re right here 👉 *nothing*
You seem extremely sweet and easygoing. Definitely calmly explained the situation and I'm subscribing on both my channels. Thanks for talking about this 🙏💜
@@GraveTheDepraved ❤️❤️
I'd say their racist based or at least went to mainly being colorist my reason is the hillichurls in development there dances were based if poc dances originally there was a whole video that went around showing what they used as reference of the hillichurls in early development so its like even if they changed they still have issue with poc.
VARIETY CONTENT!!1!!1!! NO WAY GUYS (good luck with this new direction)
Lol thank you homie
is genshin racist? yes. and those who say genshin isn't tend to say it's us players who are looking at this from a westernized lens. in china and in the chinese communities in other countries, there is a term called "white left", basically progressive and liberal ideas. and our concerns are just brushed aside after receiving this label.
BITCH I'M ETHNICALLY CHINESE AND YES GENSHIN IS STILL RACIST. Hoyo is obviously pandering to east asian beauty standards of lighter skins being pretty (plus xenophobia/racism against darker skin ppl like south asians, africans, latin america, oceana, etc) and making waifus. Their designs are amazing but it could be so much better if they just stop being racist.
edit: I'm not american, grew up in asia so it's not even a western progressive "bai zuo" 白左. It's just plain old racism.
Holy shit absolute w response and comment 🙌🏽🙌🏽
New Natlan trailer confirms this even more. Why are they allergic to showing other races & skin tones.
I'm not a woke leftist. I'm not somebody that specifically looks for diversity & inclusivity in my entertainment. It's just that I absolutely hate it when game studios can't just be accurate to the culture/history of the place they are supposed to be representing. I hate that there is a black MC in Assassin's Creed Japan. I hate that there is a black Angrboda in Norse GOW. And I equally hate that there are white characters in Sumeru & Natlan. It has nothing to do with my political ideology. The game studios are just stupid af if they can't do justice to a certain irl location/culture/mythologies in their games.
@@ArthurShotgun yeahhhhhhh :/
idk anything about that other game but im pretty sure that black mc from assasins creed is based off a real black samurai
@@bgb25well tecnically not a sumurai but yes yasuke is real.
Guys is there a game like genshin impact that isn't racist 😤 , I was looking forward to playing blue protocol but found out that it was shutting down
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@softcrab3361 thanks bro , I really appreciate it
2:48 most people from middle east are not even that dark skinned, Turkish people are legitimately almost full white yet they designed some people with Turkish race in the game very dark-skinned. Not talked about enough
Absolutely yes. Whether it be the outright refusal to make any kind of skin tone darker than a slight tan, or the comments that defend said racism by "China has different beauty standards..!" When even the Chinese community of the game has questioned why there is the CULTURES of our Mexican, African, mesoamerican, Nigerian, hawaiin, and north American brothers and sisters but not their skin tones. So much so that even VA's of some genshin characters have come out to speak on the blatant disrespect and racism towards such cultures and representations. And ALSO, every TANNED ("darker") character's kits are downright horrendous.
Edit: Not to mention the fact that the characters color palettes would look so much better if darker skin! Iansan is the "darkest character" so far and she's quite literally gray..
This killed my interest in genshin.
One thing thats been annoying me is the whole, white “insert identity“ people exist there too.
Clearly the white Mexicans do not know their history because color is very important, hence the caste system was put in place. Blatantly discriminating against those of color.
So the whole argument is tone deaf.
I used to love this game so much. I remember during the pandemic I'd get super into the story and everything. I enjoyed the attention they'd put into culture, environment, food, music, etc. And then Sumeru happened. "Ah the people in the forest are obviously paler cuz of the shade" bruh that is the dumbest excuse I've ever heard people spew. Then there was the desert with Cyno only looking dark cuz he was literally standing next to characters with #FFFFFF for a skin tone. And all the enemies having locs and darker tones but nope for player characters you can count them on one hand.
And now Natlan. One of the characters is literally named after Olorun of the Yoruba religion. They effing massacred him 😭
It's so frustrating cuz Hoyo's "mission statement" talks about how they wanna do better and stuff but look at what we get here. It sucks.
1 dark skinned character is crazy....
How else do you explain there being no black characters and only 6 with a light tan, including regions based on middle east/latin america/africa. The only explanation is they are colorist or they want to appeal to a colorist society (china) to make more money, it's not unknown that their ideal beauty standard is having the lightest skin possible. If it bothers you that much just stop spending money in the game, but I doubt this is gonna change anytime soon in chinese media
taking inspiration from the culture, clothes, music, food, locations but not the color of the skin *is* very low
Cz in China we just dont care about race so much, instead what we care is culture, which is really representative for us. We have many races in China share similar culture, and we all recognize ourselves as the same kind of people. So its very easy for us to ignore about the skin color issue.
I think overall we should advocate for more characters of darker skin complexions rather than the demands I usually see for pre-existing characters to be darker because they "aren't black enough" for what people feel they are supposed to be representing, I do wish hoyoverse would communicate with it's community and listen to feedback but overall it feels wrong from both sides because as someone of mixed race and just other experiences I've witnessed happening to others some people are just lighter than people would stereotypcally thing would represent the ethnicity or race they are apart of while on the other hand supporting this game using lighter complexions when they base these nations as a whole off of real life cultures with a vast abundance of rich history is extremely concerning when they have so many resources they could use to create such a diverse cast like the nations and powers these bright colorful characters come with, unfortunately there probably isn't much hope if the future natlan characters are revealed and are lighter than the community would like but we still can cherish these characters and not dispise them for the designs their developers have given them while again advocating that they add future characters that can fit the mold that people are requesting for within the regions that they should be included or there may be a lack of.
I'm here after the new Drip marketing... Those names and their skintones don't match at all. 😂 These characters should be darker...
3:03 Rami Malek, the dude from Egypt who played Freddie Mercury
Didn't watch it yet but looks very interesting, especially with Natlan's release ❤
Good thing to start of with for genshin content it will make the RIGHT people and show you the true colors of others lol keep it up my manz!
it's not racism like at all. I would say its just plain ignorance bc it seems like they're intentions are innocent.
For years, starting from Xinyan and Kaeya. Continuing with 'entire' green lantern region, after Dehya situation. The answer was always MAYBE. After pyro region characters, UNDENIABLE YES.
at the end of the day, it is a game, and is ran by a Chinese company. everyone will live whether they include darker characters or not.
That’s not the point 😭
@@ItzKudu it is still a fact though. i just can't be bothered to sit through the 100th video of someone talking about the race problem in genshin. i don't say this to discredit your video, im just saying.
@@willbill-is4ptYou clicked on the video though? You continuing to engage with these videos will only ensure them popping up on your page more. If you don’t care, that’s fine but there’s no reason for you to try and discredit people who do care.
@@confusedgrapes349 if you read my reply, then you'd see i said "i don't say this to discredit your video". i actually don't discredit anyone at all, and i get that wanting inclusion is a valid thing to talk about, but hoyoverse isn't going to bat an eye unless there is a BIG uproar in the CN community, and that is a FACT.
@@Velvanna_90 as long as anything isnt being mocked, then sure. i do think its okay for that to happen.
its not even only a genshin theme
this happens in hsr, hi3, tot and even zzz
hsr has arlan and penacony, arlan was supported as a child by a rich white girl, on top of that he has skills such as "Shackle Breaker" "Frenzied Punishment" and "Swift Harvest", on top of being white washed on emojis
Penacony is a planet based on jazz culture, the main founders of jazzz were poc
hi3 has many outfits of orientalist origin being used sexually, on top of Carole calling herself "as dark as she can be" while being whitewashed to hell and back, and her mother being represented as unattractive
tot also has orientalist outfits being used sexually
zzz not only has a blackface character, but also mainly uses hip hop and rap culture for their songs with also no poc characters other than nekomata who got whitewashed on release
arguably honkai is more racist than genshin
Haven't seen the video, going to speak on the thumbnail. For context, I am Indian.
I genuinely dislike how this community uses Nahida as a poster child for Genshins colourism when infact she is NOT.
Nahida is inspired by the Indian god of wisdom, Saraswati, who is believed to be draped in gold and white clothes, whilst having very fair skin.
Literally no other Indian has had a problem with Nahida being fair due to her inspirations being crystal clear. Yet people who have nothing to do with India or Indian culture come out and fight on our behalf.
If we saw a problem with how Genshin portrayed us, we would fight for ourselves. We don't need Twitter warriors who haven't touched grass in decades to fight for us. Stop virtue signalling and leave the protection of cultures to the people of said cultures.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Okay
Genshin heard the make them darker and drop the hexcode by 1
They gave a light-bright character a NIGERIAN name. Yes Hoyoverse is racist😂
It's really amazing how opinions change from one language to another while Hispanics believe that it doesn't matter for the most part. English speakers are so keen to believe that this is a real problem.
But well, I'm not entirely against the fact that they should have made the characters brunette, but I'm against thinking that there shouldn't even be a white character. That they recolor me all, even Citlali who is inspired by an axolotl, an animal that is white.
I have no issue with white characters in natlan. My issue honestly the 1:7 ratio they have for natlan (at the moment. These might not be the only natlan characters they release in the future).
Damn not what I expected clicking on this video which IG is a good thing. First of all lessgo P.R. , second I think this is an interesting subject but while I have never played genshin and don't plan on, I think they should try to encorporate more people but I just hope they do it well because I've seen cases where companies do like the bare minimum for inclusivity and it leaves people MORE hurt than impressed but it would be cool to see something like this happen in a game as large as genshin, I think it would be a very interesting case. Also yes I came from the OW stuff but I applaud you for trying out a new thing, even if some people may not find this type of content comfortable. 👍
@@Destenylight3 thank you homie! It means a lot. Hope you have a good day 🙌🏽❤️
Not to mentioned all the coloured units we do have, have such bad kits! Like why??
The dendro dude is Nigeria
I wouldnt blame china or chinese people for the shortcomings of hoyo. other games, including gacha games like R1999, have black characters in them. Otherwise I agree
It is racism but I honestly am ok with the designs, I will pull for them anyway, it doesn't matter what color they are.
But it is racism, I mean, they are a chinese company, it was expected
I wouldn't be absolutely disdainful of genshin's style if it weren't for sumeru. I mean-- 95% of the characters are white in the middle/south east asain people region and the Archon who's supposed to represent it is literally 500 year old ghost w h i t e l o l i. Felt like they were mocking us for all we could have been worth. Genshin has wonderful representations of culture but the fact that they're so scared of representing other skin colors in their playables seems unreasonsable in a game that takes from real life cultures. The worst part is that this game tries to tackle issues of racism and bigotry (see Melusines and Eremites vs Rainforest Sumerians, though the Eremites vs Rainforest one is half racism and half elitism). Genshin's roster looks incredibly good, my only ask is that they extend that to people who are actually darker skinned and not just tan
I mean like, I don't wanna be a hater or nothin but I honestly just enjoy the game, characters etc regardless of skin colour ;-; I could care less if they make a character is dark / white / pale but it's also a fantasy world. Genshin's excuse against the Sun's physics is:
A. Teyvat has it's own laws
B. Fake Sky theory which WOULD make sense for why most characters r lighter
@@Crimsooo you can not sit there and say that the reason there isn’t dark skinned people is bc of the sun in game 💀🙌🏽😭
@@ItzKudu they ain’t bein affected by the irl sun idk dude but like no hate Teyvat prob has dat fake sun meaning no melatonin 😂😂😂
just saw the trailer for the new content and the new units look so bad im no longer hyped
@@kanna2746 :(
What this company wants, is only cultures, environments, architecture, etc from real world locations. It's the best selling point. Elemental reaction system from 2010 Magicka is only one thing. Music lovers can understand why sonic fans love Sonic Unleashed soundtrack, stuff like that.
They don't care about it's residents. It's like putting Antarctica in your game, and replace all penguins with humans.
Edit: White humans, or AT BEST Lois Griffin colored...
Ehh… I see where you are coming from, but playing safe ≠ racism in my opinion. Western game companies forcing inclusivity has resulted in lots of backlash, so maybe that’s another argument for it.
Then what is racism ?? You can love the game but you don't have to excuse them of their blatant stubborness to not bring a tan character when this company literally didn't want to hear it from their fan base on any improvement in game for 3yrs and doing their own thing
They can add a tan character they simple don't want to
@@Snowbell247 I’m not excusing them of their “stubbornness”. I acknowledge that they are not adding tan characters simply because they don’t want to. I just think this belittles the idea of racism in a certain way.
In any case, game developers don’t really have to do anything that their community wants. They will only do it if they actually suffer losses and stuff. So yeah, even if part of the community have been complaining about it for a while, if it is not affecting their income, then they won’t bother with it.
Warning essay
I feel like this is a pretty big discussion that often gets misconstrued on either side, but I do want to make a few things clear before I dive in. One and most importantly there should be more skin variety in the game period, debating that is such a dumb thing to do, gacha’s thrive off of character diversity there's no reason why Genshin shouldn't be doing what every other gacha has been doing when it comes to this aspect. Two I can understand why the opposing side can be at times vitriolic because before someone like kudu came along who gave a very reasonable and imo good take on this subject, there was x twitter person coming along black washing characters like Nahida and Dori to name a few.
While I disagree with the direction Hoyo has taken with said character design in certain aspects that does not excuse blackwashing characters. it is extremely fucking cringe and depending on your motives, i would argue as someone who is black is just another form of racism. IMHO no matter what views we all have on this subject the above talking points/sentiments and or beliefs shouldn't be in the convo.
side note i would argue the hex code argument is a slippery slope, growing up in the hood similar questions or assumptions based on my friends skin or the way that they would talk, often led to other black people calling them “whitewashed” or “not black enough” i understand your intentions but i think it's important to be very careful using that argument due to what some people can internalized from it. (not blaming you just sharing my pov about that)
With that out of the way, is this racism/colorism personally i don't think it is, i do however think there's a mixture of problems that come together and culminate to make it feel that it is, said problems include but are not limited to.
#1 a divisive community that hates change.
(See Im theater, Zhongli fiasco and abyss difficulty as everything that ends up being discussed with this community including this topic ends up being controversial.)
#2 Lighting and brightness that makes the already lacking disparities between characters more prominent. (character design as a whole looks a lot better with the gamma all the way down)
#3 Concern for not only the CCP but potential crazy fans in the community.
(The president of Hoyo almost got assassinated over a fucking swimsuit skin.)
#4 the poor reception with character kits for said melanated characters. With this particular point I want to make this abundantly clear, the issues with these characters often just stem from incompetence or character balancing not race.
(Starting off, Dehya's kit isn't bad it's just her numbers, for Xinyan her element just doesn't do her justice for her kit and tbf Hoyo barely knew what they were doing making units at the time. Sethos is good, Cyno is good, Kaeya is good, but freeze doesn't work nowadays, and melt is limited, Candace(c6) is good her problem is there's no point of using her unless it's for a niche team like Arle vape because hydro app is covered by like 6 other characters for every scenario.)
I will agree that this particular issue sucks because even if the characters aren't bad, the fact that there's very little use cases for them (nowadays due to so many options) and they are darker skinned feels like the devs are doing this on purpose. When it's probably in actuality just laziness impeding these designs as this happens a lot with the four stars and the five stars depending on where we are in the region's patch. (looking at you Kaveh and Chirori) Chiori is good, please don't mistake my criticism of her design as her being a bad unit because she is far from that.
When it comes to Sumeru I did feel although, we didn't get as appropriate representation with the playable cast. The nation of Sumeru was very well done in terms of cultural aspects and religion-based practices/stories (as seen with the cycle of samsara) and with that in mind I think people are jumping the gun a bit too early with Natlan since, there is a lot that has been purposely left out in the trailer but that's just speculation and all we can do is wait and see.
Huge write up aside congrats on the algorithm hitting your video kudu and I hope my views on this situation probably gave you some food for thought or a new take away and even if it didn't, I wish you and everyone else who kept this a respectable discussion a good one, take care peeps👍🏿.
I agree on the lack of dark skin characters. I really wanna to see something like arjuna alter from fgo on genshin. But regions are just inspired by real cultures, not people. I dont want to see people attacking white skin characters now because of his supposed real ethnic background.
it does feel weird how fetishistic the way people ask for representation in the game saying stuff like "where's the melanin?" like it just feels so weird to hear, why cant we just say "wheres the representation?" i know saying melanin is a lot more straightforward but it really feels like it diminishes the entire purpose of representation in a game
I get what you mean but yeah representation would be great
I disagree strongly, just asking for more melanin aka color isn't fetishizing at all. We already have darker enemies and NPCs so there's no defending the lack of color outside of colorism and money.
i heard latinx and i inmediately closed the tab lmao
Lmao okay bye! 🙌🏽🤫🧏🏽♂️
Is genshin racist? Bruh from the manga where they discriminate murata's people to fontaine's unfair melusine treatment in the past. I can confidently say genshin is racist like holy shit. Every region has one shape or another form of racism
So ofcourse it extends to character designs and kit
So real
Genshit infacts lighting engine is complete dogsrit. You cant rely on hex codes AT ALL until patch comes out. Kaeya and Xinyan are ONLY 2 with the darkest skin color from ALL the playable characters. Starting from green lantern region EVERY "darker" skin character got a lighter color compared to Kaeya and Xinyan. That includes Electric 5*. I call it Lois Griffin color. In some lighting its brown ONLY at night, fully white during the day. It's horrible. Its funny, when actual white skin characters, in this horrible lighting engine, can hit almost perfect FFFFFF on the hex code. Purest white. It's tragic. These new characters AT BEST, probably Dehya/Lois Griffin/every 3.0 region playable character color. At worst dude could be actually white, not sure about geo child.
Update: Well would you look at that, still got it!
Overwatch player complains about melanin in genshin impact. Talk about cathartic! 😂😂😂😂
Uh? I play more games than just overwatch goofy ass 😭💀
At least the game has dark skinned people like hello 🙌🏽
@@ItzKudu good for it
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Im a little curious like how many generations of (Chinese washing?) til we get close to the skin colors?
Yes, bye.
Cmon it’s a game, why you guys take everything so seriously? Just enjoy it regardless their skin tone. People are too rigid💀
thats not the point lol
No one would talk about it if they don't borrow other countries culture HSR ZZZ players don't talk about it
Yall can try to have your brown characters and black characters just stay off Mualani she's based off Polynesian/Hawaiian im so happy my race is being put into game but please stay off Mualani.
Uhhh okay? Lol
sorry to disappoint but just because she’s that colour doesn’t mean other polynesian’s or hawaiians have that same skin tone .
Yes
Maybe, nobody cares, they don’t care about social American issues either. 🤷🏻♂️
5:47
@@ItzKuduI’m brown and I don’t care about a fictional character being same color as me or being white, I don’t need approval or representation from a Chinese game or fictional characters, I don’t have inferiority complex bc I don’t see ppl as my color or ethnicity in such irrelevant stuff like a game 😂
@@An_dres_art just bc you don’t care doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t. Does it hurt to have a little diversity?
@@An_dres_art if you don’t care it’s perfectly fine but like I said in the video, you can’t have a white skin toned person represent a group of people who are darker skinned.
Gonna say the same example, you don’t use a white person to represent black people/the black community and their culture and vise versa
@@An_dres_art looking through your channel all I see is a sea of white. I’m sorry you’re not comfortable in your own skin 🙌🏽💀🧏🏽♂️🤫
Racist nah, but they do seem to have preference when it comes to skin tone. We are jumping to fast into the gutter here, they have barely shown the Natlan, so reserve our judgement when they actually make a statement or act that is in deed racist. At least question them first, before making a bold claim such as them being racist.
Racist? They have worked hard to explore and showcase different cultures, if you don't see any black characters it doesn't mean they are racist
If you don't see any characters on Natlan that have dark complexion you can say that the game is racist
Japan closed it's borders around year 1500-1800 like the story in Inazuma and black slavery took place on the same time, putting black on the game would suddenly make the game racist because people will think blacks are slaves
Liyue and Inazuma characters have huge eyes, is it racism??? NO, it's all about color right? Every media needs to include " BLACKS " because if not, they are definitely racist
Making Dr.Who, Albert Wesker, Cleopatra, Etc BLACK ARE FAR MORE RACIST THAN A GAME,MOVIE ETC THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THEM
I think the issue stems from Hoyo wanting to represent a culture without the actual population.. Not sure where the leap in logic came from regarding slaves though. Inazuma is inspired by Japan, not repeating historical events 😐
So many things wrong with this statement. First off, the game DOES NOT take place in 1500's-1800's. This is a made-up fictional world and Inzuma does not share the same story as what happened in he 1500-1800's. Raiden literally closes the nations borders because of her own ignorance and the fear that the nation would get destroyed in war.
Second off, all the characters in Genshin share similar eyes. Liyue and Inazuma does not purposefully make their unit's eyes bigger lmao.
Who hurt you? Also doesn't One Piece feature a BUNCH of dark skinned people?
Ahh yes... a fictional, open-world, action role-playing game adding a person of a darker skin toned character (who doesn't even really have to be black) is going to make the game racist.... I'm ngl the fact that'd Kudu mostly talked about Hispanic people in the video, and you just somehow brought in why black people shouldn't be in the game, is beyond me. Also youre acting like the Black community went out of their way to ask for someone black to play as Dr. Who, Albert Wesker or Cleopatra. Idk tho im just a "BLACK" that doesn't play genshin.
@@ItzKudu I know that Inazuma is a fictional world but given the real world context, it will suddenly become racist if you suddenly include dark skin below 5.0 and if you don't get it I'm not gonna argue with you because all you see is skin color
No one hurts me it's just I'm tired of this woke bullshit, I don't see color until someone claims everything is racist and it slowly makes me racist towards that group of people and yes One Piece includes a bunch of dark skin characters but blacks in the real world are represented by fishman on that fictional pirate story.
Fishman being a stronger than average person, dark past then some become racist themselves because of their past while other are trying to move on and make things better is an accurate representation of black community
Again I'm not gonna argue after this since it's clear that you only see color and nothing else
Keep up the great video because you will succeed on your goal, you don't know it yet but this kind of content is one of the reasons people are slowly becoming racist deep inside but don't worry they don't usually show it outside even your friends if you have one
One day you will succeed in bringing a new generations of racist
Good content
Thank you :3
People of sumeru are jews, sumeru city is Israel and the desert dwellers...
Well Jordan, Egypt, and Palestine.
This is a big lie omg
Did Hoyoverse tell you that??? 😂
@@spamserketThe two territories that Israel wants to get from the conflict is Judea and SUMERIA wich holds great cultural significance to jews.
Go read a history book.
Literally everyone in sumeru city have Arabic name. Sumeru inspired by SUMER which is located in iraq. Somehow I'm not surprised you would say that
I feel like I couldn’t care less but maybe that’s just me, I don’t see any problem with there skintone as long as they are not pale yk
I don't think you discuss this if this is an American company product. Have you yelled for yellow or brown face before? You can give comments but don't use the racist words. People are tired of DEI concept. If you like other skin, you can try Black myth Wukong.
You gave me a stroke while trying to read this 😭
Go get a life bro wtf this game doing🧐
Uhhhh what
Nope, just Chinese
@@rajaryan-fe1oy what
Chinese*
@@NathanElhm oop
that’s sinophobic.. lots of chinese players hate the designs toi
@@whatswrongwithngas damm bruh, atleast consider what I might've been trying to say before throwing labels, I was referring to the Chinese censorship not the behaviour of their citizens
Congrats on getting downvoted just because you want some clicks. No I did not watch your video, the title was all I needed to see.
@@trevoraustin-r8j LMAO I found the racist, you getting the pin of shame
Edit: no more pins of shame :p
an i oop.
5:47
pfftt
Found the bigot 😂
@@spamserket found the person who'd make any character black just to feel "represented" lmaooo
black chrollo 💀💀💀💀💀
@@kissshot2261 Womp Womp. At least I’m not a bigot 🤪
@@spamserket ah, yes "bigot," the favorite word of black people who forces their race into anything even if it's culturally inappropriate just so they can feel "represented" and will point to racism the moment you disagree with their opinion
types of people like you are the very reason why racism still exists to this day lmao
@@kissshot2261 ahh yes, blame the minority for the discrimination targeted at them, you love to see it. On the contrary, bullheaded people like you are the reason why racism still exists. People aren’t allowed to be upset about misrepresentation, according to you, so by that standard you shouldn’t be upset you just got called a bigot (although really, I’m not attacking you, it’s really because you are perpetuating bigoted standards that do more harm than good.)
It’s like a bully refusing to stop bullying because their victim got upset with them. It’s not great, and I hope you can think more about this beyond petty reasonings. Racism has been around for a very long time and will continue to be if you still choose to be petty like this.