I had a hydro and moved up to a power reverser and I'll never go back. Power reverser seems more like a tractor and the hydro seems like a garden tractor
@@dirtpicasso I completely agree. For city people that move to the country, I think they find the hydro easier. But for the country and farm folks, I think they appreciate the gears. Luckily there are options for everyone. I’m very happy with my power reverser. The shuttle shifter setup is perfect.
I got my 4044M back in June of this year. Exact spec as yours with the power reverser and so far I've really enjoyed it. Got a box blade and brush hog to go with it. FYI first time tractor owner too. @@Fever_Rides
@@marcusgarza7127 that’s great! I think a lot of people get the 1 & 2 series for their 1st tractor, then have to upgrade. You saved yourself some money
I grew up with reversers/shuttles. I can see someone who doesn't have a lot of experience with equipment or has needs for specific tasks. But for me, a shuttle is the way to go. They put the power down, arent as prone to overheating or losing power, and are more stout.
Exact video of the gearbox m series I'm definitely getting a 4052or 4066m thanks for the video you are mostly in a and b range except on a driveway or the highway.. Steve from WV
A good video showing how a power reverser works on the JD compact tractor. Have been struggling with the hydro vs. gear on the same model tractor. Farm implements I have worked with over the years that were hydro driven were non draft implements like swathers , combines, and yard lawn mowers. Have had a hydro combine "give up" traveling too fast going up a steep hill with a hopper full of grain. They can be susceptible to over heating if they are worked too much, hot summer days don't help much either. They also tend to have what is sometimes referred to as a hydraulic noise or squeal, how ever some gear transmissions can have their noises also. For mostly loader work and small spaces a hydro would be well adapted, for draft work requiring heavier pulling a gear transmission would be worth considering. The power reverser operates with out clutching is a big deal for me, i did not know that. I have couple larger tractors with power shift transmissions and they work fine for me and if the transmission has synchronized gears would prefer this gear transmission over a hydro. Dealer stock is low in my area,would like to look and drive one.
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. And I agree with you. The gear drive is great for field work, but the hydrostatic drive definitely has its benefits also.
My John Deere 4052 had to have a major tear down and repair at 614 hours. It was a $6500 repair. It was an issue that Deere was aware of, did a part improvement on, put together a repair kit and yet did not notify customers so the machine was out of warranty by 1 month when we found all this out. Not only that but we had a reverse repair plate that was out of spec. It took 2.5 months for the repair because the tractor had to be completely torn down and split in half. I loved it right up until it had this major repair. Now I regret buying it and I would go with a hydro and not a power reverser and I would NOT buy another Deere again...We have found several ppl that have had issues with brand new Deere Compact tractors. I hope others are having better luck then we did with their tractors!
I’m sorry to hear about your luck. No machine or platform is perfect, or without its problems. But for me, the power reverser is still the best option for me. I also benefit from a Deere implement dealer only 5 miles away. I plan to stick with the green and yellow. But everyone’s situation is different. Good luck to you
The hydro is definitely the most user friendly and I'd choose it every time on the smaller tractors, especially for using a loader. For anything larger then I'd use the power reverser.
How is it hard to get to full speed in a powrreverser? It's a manual transmission you have to shift gears, at 7:47 you said you would go from 1st to 4th why? Why not do it the right way, use your foot throttle and clutch and start in 1st then 2nd then 3rd and finally 4th
I was making the comparison on how fast you can get to full speed. Many complaints I hear about the power reverser is that it takes too long. It’s not a concern for me, but I wanted to illustrate that you can get to full speed pretty quickly. Thanks for the comment!
@@Fever_RidesWell you certainly did showed it can reach speed fast enough. People complain that reaching max speed takes time but that might be one disadvantage of a gear drive transmission or even some skill issue. Also I never do it that way on a tractor of mine, that's how to wear the clutch more quickly, imagine doing so going up hill or when carrying a load. But this is just my opinion, in my country you barely found an hydrostatic tractor that's why I find it weird for people to complain. Great video anyway!
@@henriqueroque3701I agree with you on the normal operating procedure. Personally, I don’t mind the time it takes to shift through the gears. I’m never in that big of a hurry
So you say "a hydro loses 3-5% of power"; !! This is only "Probable " for the "Power delivery to the REAR POWER TAKE OFF SHAFT". A Hydrostatic Transmission is EXTREMELY Inefficient for "Power to the Wheels" in a Compact tractor. Did you ever SEE the Demostation of Two EXACT TRACTORS in comparison of the HYDROSTATIC'S VS. Gear Drive's.?( there are many out there) The Comparisons are totally ASTOUNDING. Gear Drives have 275% MORE PULLING POWER TO the WHEELS.!!! l have various configurations of tractors; shuttle shift great drive transmissions, "Hydro-slack-o-Howl-o-matic's ", and my favorite "Gear drive Power-Reversers : Power-Shuttles"& l can thoroughly Attest to these Claims. But NO Hydrostatic Bulldozer transmissions, or CVT's( constantly variable transmissions).... these are in a CLASS Of Their OWN... just for the BIG STUFF. The "hype" of the compact tractor with a "hydrostatic transmission " is "Geared" for the Convenience & ease of use for the "home-lowners " of the 23-50 HP 900-3500lb ,200 hours per year & LESS, BECAUSE They just wouldn't know what to DO "With REAL POWER" anyway !. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
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Which do you prefer??
I had a hydro and moved up to a power reverser and I'll never go back. Power reverser seems more like a tractor and the hydro seems like a garden tractor
@@dirtpicasso I completely agree. For city people that move to the country, I think they find the hydro easier. But for the country and farm folks, I think they appreciate the gears. Luckily there are options for everyone. I’m very happy with my power reverser. The shuttle shifter setup is perfect.
I got my 4044M back in June of this year. Exact spec as yours with the power reverser and so far I've really enjoyed it. Got a box blade and brush hog to go with it. FYI first time tractor owner too. @@Fever_Rides
@@marcusgarza7127 that’s great! I think a lot of people get the 1 & 2 series for their 1st tractor, then have to upgrade. You saved yourself some money
I have a 4066r John Deere with the shuttle shift and I love it.
I agree, I think it’s a great system
I grew up with reversers/shuttles. I can see someone who doesn't have a lot of experience with equipment or has needs for specific tasks. But for me, a shuttle is the way to go. They put the power down, arent as prone to overheating or losing power, and are more stout.
I completely agree. I grew up on the same. Thanks for the comment!
Exact video of the gearbox m series I'm definitely getting a 4052or 4066m thanks for the video you are mostly in a and b range except on a driveway or the highway.. Steve from WV
Thanks for the comment! Good luck on your upcoming purchase
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
A good video showing how a power reverser works on the JD compact tractor. Have been struggling with the hydro vs. gear on the same model tractor. Farm implements I have worked with over the years that were hydro driven were non draft implements like swathers , combines, and yard lawn mowers. Have had a hydro combine "give up" traveling too fast going up a steep hill with a hopper full of grain. They can be susceptible to over heating if they are worked too much, hot summer days don't help much either. They also tend to have what is sometimes referred to as a hydraulic noise or squeal, how ever some gear transmissions can have their noises also. For mostly loader work and small spaces a hydro would be well adapted, for draft work requiring heavier pulling a gear transmission would be worth considering. The power reverser operates with out clutching is a big deal for me, i did not know that. I have couple larger tractors with power shift transmissions and they work fine for me and if the transmission has synchronized gears would prefer this gear transmission over a hydro. Dealer stock is low in my area,would like to look and drive one.
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. And I agree with you. The gear drive is great for field work, but the hydrostatic drive definitely has its benefits also.
Great video, helpful!
I appreciate the comment. Thanks!
My John Deere 4052 had to have a major tear down and repair at 614 hours. It was a $6500 repair. It was an issue that Deere was aware of, did a part improvement on, put together a repair kit and yet did not notify customers so the machine was out of warranty by 1 month when we found all this out. Not only that but we had a reverse repair plate that was out of spec. It took 2.5 months for the repair because the tractor had to be completely torn down and split in half.
I loved it right up until it had this major repair. Now I regret buying it and I would go with a hydro and not a power reverser and I would NOT buy another Deere again...We have found several ppl that have had issues with brand new Deere Compact tractors.
I hope others are having better luck then we did with their tractors!
I’m sorry to hear about your luck. No machine or platform is perfect, or without its problems. But for me, the power reverser is still the best option for me. I also benefit from a Deere implement dealer only 5 miles away. I plan to stick with the green and yellow. But everyone’s situation is different. Good luck to you
dose the tractor it self turn it self off if you leave the seat
Yes, the engine shuts down if it’s in gear
@@Fever_Rides ok thats understanding so if i put it in neutral it will stay running right
@@chrisjimerson8790correct. I get off mine all the time, after placing the shuttle in neutral. I set the brake each time though, or it will roll
@@Fever_Rides ok thanks just making sure thats accurate
The hydro is definitely the most user friendly and I'd choose it every time on the smaller tractors, especially for using a loader. For anything larger then I'd use the power reverser.
Makes sense to me
How is it hard to get to full speed in a powrreverser? It's a manual transmission you have to shift gears, at 7:47 you said you would go from 1st to 4th why? Why not do it the right way, use your foot throttle and clutch and start in 1st then 2nd then 3rd and finally 4th
I was making the comparison on how fast you can get to full speed. Many complaints I hear about the power reverser is that it takes too long. It’s not a concern for me, but I wanted to illustrate that you can get to full speed pretty quickly. Thanks for the comment!
@@Fever_RidesWell you certainly did showed it can reach speed fast enough. People complain that reaching max speed takes time but that might be one disadvantage of a gear drive transmission or even some skill issue. Also I never do it that way on a tractor of mine, that's how to wear the clutch more quickly, imagine doing so going up hill or when carrying a load.
But this is just my opinion, in my country you barely found an hydrostatic tractor that's why I find it weird for people to complain. Great video anyway!
@@henriqueroque3701I agree with you on the normal operating procedure. Personally, I don’t mind the time it takes to shift through the gears. I’m never in that big of a hurry
What tractor
4044M
🤨 For Utility id go with Hydro.! Farm tractor.! Of course it would be Gear ! 🤔
So you say "a hydro loses 3-5% of power"; !! This is only "Probable " for the "Power delivery to the REAR POWER TAKE OFF SHAFT". A Hydrostatic Transmission is EXTREMELY Inefficient for "Power to the Wheels" in a Compact tractor. Did you ever SEE the Demostation of Two EXACT TRACTORS in comparison of the HYDROSTATIC'S VS. Gear Drive's.?( there are many out there) The Comparisons are totally ASTOUNDING. Gear Drives have 275% MORE PULLING POWER TO the WHEELS.!!! l have various configurations of tractors; shuttle shift great drive transmissions, "Hydro-slack-o-Howl-o-matic's ", and my favorite "Gear drive Power-Reversers : Power-Shuttles"& l can thoroughly Attest to these Claims. But NO Hydrostatic Bulldozer transmissions, or CVT's( constantly variable transmissions).... these are in a CLASS Of Their OWN... just for the BIG STUFF. The "hype" of the compact tractor with a "hydrostatic transmission " is "Geared" for the Convenience & ease of use for the "home-lowners " of the 23-50 HP 900-3500lb ,200 hours per year & LESS, BECAUSE They just wouldn't know what to DO "With REAL POWER" anyway !. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
Hydro i had in 3038e was this way.Atta
Thank you! I appreciate the comment!
A full mechanical trans is around 90% efficiency. An hydrostatic one is about 80 to 85%. Both to the wheel.