Here's Everything I Love About My Air-Cooled Porsche 911 -- and Everything I Hate
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Old 911 are some of the most beautiful cars ever made
Couldn't agree more!
Cross-country trip...ok, easy to-do list:
1. If you are unaware of their condition, replace the fuel injection hoses. No need to buy Porsche hoses for $1K+ in total. Buy bulk hose, and crimp with oetiker clamps once everything is in place.
2. Replace reference and speed sensors. Wires get cooked. Don't buy the Porsche ones, get the equivalent BMW ones which are the exact same sensor, slightly different wire length, and 1/2 the cost. I think from a 5-series with Motronic...not sure years. Been a while.
3. Spare DME relay
4. Enjoy your trip.
I've driven these through floods, through floods to the track, tracked it for 4, 20 minute sessions, and back home. They are incredibly reliable, mostly due to simplicity. Enjoy!
Do not do that with fuel hose. The barbs on the hose ends were designed for a plastic lined fuel hose and will cut through any of the modern stuff you can buy at the store. It is a great way to start an engine fire. Many 911s, 944s, and 928s have been lost due to either old fuel lines or incorrectly replace fuel lines.
Jay Tubbs
1. Agree. The lines are only holdning max 2,7 bar pressure. Use quality clamps.
2. Agree. The 635 CSI sensors are about 10 mm longer and cheaper as you said.
3. Agree
4. Oh yes.
Which is why you have to use proper fuel injection spec'd hose. Mine's on 10+ years, and going strong. Plus, I'm guessing the Car Wizard will know how to do it properly. :)
I paid $500 for the set from 944 online. Originals lasted 30 years. You think you can cobble something up that will last as long? Maybe you just can’t afford to own this car, - stick with Toyota’s!
Well, it is back to school week. Look at how cute you are! I looks like you're all set for your first day of trolling Junior College. I'm sure grandma will post a photo of you on her Facebook page. So proud!!!
we had a 73 at the shop for a few weeks and i drove it quite a bit. Loved that car. All my co-workers wanted to drive the mclarens or the vipers or ferraris etc but I always chose the old 911 - we wrapped cars in vinyl in case anyone was wondering
Mike Dancy you wrap cars in vinyl, but need to drive them all the time?
first ... a few weeks for a wrap ? second.... you drove someone else's car quite a bit ? is that normal shop rules over there ?
Telling everyone that you and the crew drive customer cars isn't a selling point. It's more of a bragging and not cool sort of thing. You hiring? lol I'd want to drive them all, but if I couldn't then I'd love to try one like that.
What was your justification for driving other people's cars to make sure the vinyl wrap didn't fall off while you abuse their cars
A little Porsche history for you Hoovie.... The reason the ignition is on the left side is because of its LeMans Racing Heritage. In the early days, at the start of the race, drivers would run to their cars and jump in then go.... Having the ignition on the left meant that you could start the car with your left while putting it in gear with your right. Winning an endurance race is a culmination of small things that add up in the long run....
The '78-'83 and '84-'89 air-cooled 911 engines are known to be very reliable and robust. It is not uncommon for them to easily go 250,000 miles without a rebuild. There are a few things that need to be updated, depending on the year, but with 100k on the clock I'd think those items would have already been taken care of on your car. Drive it, and keep the revs up! They don't like low revs.
Eric Elliott What updates can be done to make the Aircooled the most reliable it can possibly be?
What needs rebuilding after 250k? Rings, valve stem seals?
Basically you replace the cylinders and pistons as a kit then rebuild the crankcase with new bearings and balance the whole assembly. Most of the time people rebuild the heads, or replace them if it is in their budget and the parts are available. Curil K2 is your friend here.
Wow. So its like a true and proper rebuild.
I don't recall all the updates, it is just a few, but off the top of my head, retrofitting a pop-off valve on the airbox, and updating a pre-1984 car with the improved 1984+ cam chain tensioner. As far as a rebuild, the common issues in these years are valve-guide wear, and broken head studs. At the very least, you are looking at a top-end rebuild. Of course, if the engine isn't well-maintained, these things will fail at much lower mileage, along with other things. For example, if you have poor oil cooling (lazy with changing your oil) you'll get spun rod bearings; if you over-rev your engine all the time, you'll get broken rod bolts.
Eric Elliott the 3.2 has no need for any immediate improvements. Only if you see symtoms of a worn engine a rebuild might be at hand. Otherwise, keep a DME relay in the glove box and carry on. No need to talk about the 3.0 engine which is not applicable in this case.
How about you drive your LS-Swapped Porsche to the 70th anniversary. Surely won't trigger Porsche purists.
They are always graduating more doctors and dentists, so there will always be a sellers market for 911's!
Chuck Farley none of the friends of mine that are doctors give a shit about pre 964 Porsches
Jose You've got the logic backwards. If all 911 buyers are doctors, it doesn't mean all doctors buy 911s
Not if Obamacare has anything to do with it.
haha I know you're not serious, but really, I know really few people under 30-35 in the medical field that care about pre-90s 911s.
@@crispindry2815 easy, buddy.
I'm surprised by the red color, it actually looks really nice.
The sound everything about the air cooled Porsche is the fkn sound man
Mike Arredondo that's what people with slow cars say. Convert that slow car to electric pls. Contact EV West.
Lupică you disgust me
you mean ruin the car?
ChillConspiracy i mean give it reliability and some actual performance.
Lupică they are reliable, and they don't need to be fast. If you make them electric, it will ruin everything good about them
No random animal walking in background or coming up to you while you did the video? Critter Squad, where you at?!!!
I see a bird in the tree.
What about the guy in the red shirt hiding in the bushes? 🤔
Buy a sharkcard instead
Viking Raiders Yea im a huge fan of the classic Porsche in GTA 5.
Tayton Ousley
Yeah but those fuckers at Rockstar Games couldn't resist fucking it up. I just wanted a clean stock looking one, without a crappy body kit or jacked up ride height.
they did a better job with the porsche than the supra lol I like how the safari looks in white with grey camo
Forget about the modern sports car. Always remember that you got this car for the nostalgia. The classic look, the engaging driving experience. It has enough power to fully enjoy it on the road. You're a man of many cars, it would not be complete without an air cooled 911. There are many tasteful upgrades to this car to make it faster. You should look into it and shoot a stream of videos about the process and results.
Vincent T. Suggesting another LS swap?
Hell no! That's sacrilege. Use Porsche parts or well known aftermarket parts. Didn't you hear him say he regret LS swapping his other 911?
207 flywheel horsepower in North American trim is enough? I hate to be a UA-cam comment nitpicker but that is less than a contemporary Corvette of the era. Oh well, if you fall asleep on the interstate late at night at least the loud ticking valves will wake you up. Hail Satan and bring on the sacrilege, I'd rather drive Apollo 911 with its LS power; I am too much of a "philistine" to enjoy an air-cooled Porsche. It does look pretty good, though.
You spent $1,000 fixing the a/c and STILL need a new belt? Sounds like the car wizard was "off" that day.
Maybe that's why it's not blowing cold air?
They leak freon from new just by having it seep through the 40 feet of soft lines running throughout the car. Adding a pound per year is fairly normal. Also keep in mind the condenser is right under the main oil cooler and above the engine so it isn't getting cool air to remove heat from the freon to begin with. Adding a remotely mounted condenser would fix the cooling issue. Griffith's sells a kit just because of the sub par performance of the original system.
Tyler, from the look of your clutch I’m willing to bet that your clutch helper spring is broken. In ‘85 the clutches were mechanical and not hydraulic . You’ll feel a world of difference once replaced.
It’s worth it, they will ultimately go up from there since the demand will never go away & they no longer make sports cars this pure & simple, I predict prices will continue to soar.
I recently picked up an ‘86 3.2 in guards red with beige interior and I absolutely love it. These videos were a huge help as I processed through my purchase decision.
I now have 2 air cooled Porsche’s: a 993 and the 3.2, both of which I feature on my channel.
The 3.2 I found has original paint, 76,000 miles, paperwork back to new, COA and even came with the spare keys and the associated valet key wallet.
You could change those US bumpers
lukalukic1 stop right there those are good looking bumpers.
Adrian Fellner die sind einfach nur scheußlich um ehrlich zu sein 😂
Bulky safety additions always drive me insane but I have to admit they look pretty damn good on that car. The only part I don't like is the ruffled rubber on the edges of the front bumper, a pretty minor detail.
I like them, they do a better job at dating the car which is good with this car. Plus, an asshole bumping into your parked car may not cause thousands of dollars in damage due to "bumper checking"
i was thinking about rubber part near rear plate
The summers are brutal basically everywhere, Tyler.
Looks a little hot in that car. Tyler looks like he just ate some bad chili and can't find a bathroom.
Car looks perfect and original, don't change it
King Galfrid ditto
It is repainted (prob in another color) as mentioned, so not really original.
Your channel is absolute gold. Undeniably entertaining, and fantastic cars. Hoovies Garage is epic!
Lmao! Your delivery in videos is great, honest, down to earth real! So enjoy watching 👍🏻
4:19 I am amazed that the engine sound sounds exactly like in the game NFS Porsche Unleashed.
Is it just me, or does this car look just like Hoovie?
I dont think its just you lol
It is a Hoovie.
These things have skyrocketed in value. Cheers man. I've grown to really love these old Porsches. Hopefully someday I'll own one myself
With all it's various nits and compromises, it still holds your attention like very few cars do. I haven't been able to let my '87 Targa go in 23 years. A rotary compressor is what's needed for true cold A/C.
Why does the AC compressor need a new belt when it was just replaced?
bimmer audi blower and compressor aren’t the same thing
0ttoman sure, but we should agree that worn belt was missed.
There is a cam in the clutch assembly that is the cause of the very abrupt clutch engagement,this was changed to a hydraulic set up in 1987.
Mike Cady what's the best, most, reliable Aircooled Porsche? 1996?
Mike Cady Was that true of all Porsches of the era? My brother has a 944S and the clutch is the exact same. It makes it horrible to drive. At least until you get used to it.
Sounds more like his omega spring is broken if it's that abrupt. Either that or his clutch cable isn't properly adjusted.
Totally get you regarding the clutch. I borrowed my friends and it took a while to drive it smooth. Gear box also challenging at times. The rear view of the car is awesome.
Always wanted one. Worked all my life and about ready to retire and still can’t afford to buy this model as you present it. I’m a teacher. Oh well, reality can be painful but it’s free to continue wishing! Right, Hoovie?
My dad had one brand new in 85. You described it well! I liked that smell! Its funny what you remember. Fun fact...It was that exact color and model! That car handled like a dream!
Hoovie: 1. The 3.2L engine if well maintained and you got a PPI beforehand (did you???) is a 200K plus engine before it needs even a top end refresh. 2. You NEED TO BUY NOW (so you don't continue to say silly uninformed things in your future vlogs): 1. A used Carrera cup bypass pipe/Test pipe (don't overpay for a Fabspeed one a used $50-100 test pipe will work as good or better) 2. A free flow muffler for a. Sound b. better flow 3. A Steve Wong chip for your Motronic box to remap your system for the muffler and test pipe. This will WAKE UP that engine BIG TIME. 4. A Wevo or Rennshift shifter or if you want to go cheap, a Siene Systems self centering spring for the shifter. This will remove the slop from your shifter and keep you from clipping Reverse when downshifting from 5-4. 5. Sierra Madre sells a CHEAP bumpsteer shim kit $20! or you can to turbo tie rod ends. After you do that you can work on handling/suspension mods/torsion and sway bars. I suggest you handle these items in this order. GET ACTIVE on Pelican Parts forums and buy used parts from the classified section of that forum. I found ALL of the aforementioned items on that forum CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP! BTW I saw this car for sale from the Asian gentleman from socal selling it for his brother and I think you did just fine on price!
IT's an 80s classic Tyler. I honestly think you did the right thing in buying it.
Please dont LS this one.
kurtis mon please do
Dreamer Believer hahahaha the power to weight ratio would be crazy
Yes please! It will actually make the car pollute less and it will be more reliable and faster
Wasnt the orange one he drove on here LS modded?
No it sounds too good if hes gonna swap it its gonna have to be a subie engine
The AC worked fine in my 1980 SC that I bought new. Always blew cold. If you change that AC belt, you won't find yourself stranded. If you're at Rennsport Reunion on Friday, I'll buy you a beer at the Corkscrew beer tent; noon at the Corkscrew!
I'll be there, too! Can't wait. 2015's Rennsport Reunion (RSR- get it?) was awesome. Hoovie should set a meet-up like you suggested.
Thanks for making me feel better about not buying a used, mid-'70s, 911 back in 2001 for just $15,000. I currently have a '78 VW Beetle convertible, and one of the things I like most about it is that most replacement parts are reasonably inexpensive.
As a fellow Porsche-ophile told me when I first was interested in air-cooled Porsche’s in the late 1990s: “ You have to pay to play”. Parts are expensive, but these cars are very rewarding to drive. They have excellent steering feedback and strong brakes for their era.
The same friend also told me : “ Second gear is the Fun gear!”
Really enjoy your videos sir.......and have learned much from you. Thanks
10:02? Gotta get that ad revenue!
anew742 only 1 ad, not bad at all
Well you want mild performance upgrade. You can get the wheel bearings MicroBlue.com coated, low rolling resistance performance tires, add in nitrogen. Upgrade to Royal Purple oil in engine and trans. Then toss in a K&N air filter. No BIG HP / TORQUE but you will enjoy a nice boost of power and mpg.
Re clutch: push it with the ball of your foot for more control. And remember that the 915 is a 1-pause-2 shift, pause beingh 1/2s.
The Porsche 911 makes up 2/5 of the German sport scar registrations freaking amazing.
912e in Texas w/ OEM fuel injection. I agree that if cars have the equivalent of a soul, these beauties have them. It's my mechanical family member.
I have an '84 Carrera cabriolet (shifting is like paddling a surf board over waves and duck diving for each shift) and I found the wheel bearings were actually Volkswagen -I bought them thinking I had bad bearings and it was just a sticky left caliper. I rebuilt calipers for like 8 bucks a side. Never send your calipers out as they destroy the plating and end up rusting even on a Miata. I do everything myself on this car and yes it can be a trip but worth it and I don't to pay and expensive mechanic. I thought I had a bad clutch and I think it was just the clutch cable had stretched over the years and when I did the whole feeler gauge thing to set it I ran out of adjustment and had to bump start and drive it home in second gear. So I'm just putting in a clutch cable. I also like URO aftermarket products for the old 911... there are lots of minor issues with mine but pretty solid over all. I need to drive it more. I also have a 1997 Boxster -Arena Red and hard top with the dual row IMS bearing and it seems like a solid car too. I'm putting tow hitches on both soon. Cool cars that are not all that fragile but fixable with a bit of TLC and time in the garage and videos from Franny's Garage. I have to take my driver door panel apart and replace the door stays soon. URO makes them aftermarket and that is what I got. I love the sound of these old cars too especially with the top down. My car does not have a spoiler.
Just got a race prepared 996 Carrara 4s because of how reliable your 260k mile Carrara was! Considering mine only has 68k miles and a ton of new parts I’m sure it’ll be good to do another 260k miles!
Colin Harrison or 260 miles. Who knows?
I’ve been obsessed with porsche. I had a 87, 944... now I have a 97, 986 and I just restored a 72, 2.0 914....... In short I’m a pore man haha. But the hunger will never end till I have the 911. Lol what do you do for a living? I need to do what you do hahaha. Do the work your self 🤤
LOL that end bit though
People are buying simple cars and trucks. IE 911, Jeep Grand Wagoneer, easy to work on.
Im glad Im not the only one to see that. Its those cars that are going to be the 'last' collector cars I think. Unless you have a dual masters in mechanical and electrical engineering, you really wont be able to restore your 2017 Dodge Demon. There is just so much code that goes into new stuff.
Don't underestimate the next generation though. They're all growing up on computers and ipads. I'm betting in 30 or 40 years, when every "normal" car is loaded with electronics, something like a Demon is going to feel crazy simple to the guy who's been studying computers and engineering since he was 12. I'm sure someone in the 70's was saying the same thing when EFI started emerging, and now here we are. That's just my $.02 tho. I just want to believe that the passion for cars will endure and evolve to overcome the shortfalls of the tech.
Unless companies start putting the driver first and the experience of driving. Cars are becoming more like an appliance something to get you from point A to point B. Taking the driver out of the equation each step of the way.
The problem is that the old cars are designed and made to a standard that REQUIRES a whole lot of maintenance. Once you understand both how a new car operates and how to interrogate or modify it, they are much the same as old cars, the difference lies in parts that are not made to be worked on. Audi is making motors that need to have their crankcase separated to change the cam-belt. The sweet-spot period for car manufacture is the mid 1990's to mid 2000's - modern technologies and quality meets good modern manufacturing. But even those cars will be slowly decaying to the point maintenance just to keep running becomes too frequent.
There have always been "Appliance Cars" though. I doubt very much people are going to, en masse, start feeling nostalgic about Chevettes, Omni's, or Cutlass Ciera's just because they were made during a time that made them easy to fix. Throwaway "point A to point B" driving experiences are nothing new.
Get ceramic window tint. You can get it almost clear so it won't change to look, but it will significantly help cool it in the sunlight. Beautiful car. It made my eyes turn green.
That was a good outtake.
Let’s do a fan meet up in Kansas City? Whatcha think Hoovie?
It’s a great idea if you like eating by yourself
Only at Freddy’s !!
Loved the out-takes at the end. Yeah, on my BMW-based channel I'm learning more and more about the value of editing - and how much footage (gigs?) gets left on the cutting room floor...
I own a '86 911 Targa and guess what, the A/C does't work. But after I was getting a quote on fixing the A/C, I just decided to stick with opening the roof. Your red one looks saf!
Great video, I grew up with my dad owning a 930 Turbo. I can still remember how much it was servicing it. But man was it awesome to drive... Scary though.
I miss my 911. This one reminds me of my 84. but Its the the same year as the 1985 I had and learned to drive a stick on.
People massively overpay for these cars because the Porsche 911 was one of mainly 3 cars that truly defined that decade (the others being the Lamborghini Countach and the Ferrari Testarossa). The Porsche 911 happens to be the only one of those 3 that are still affordable enough that lots and lots of eighties teenagers now want one and are willing to pay a premium to own and drive one of their dream cars. That's why I bought mine.
We all have our struggles...lol
Tyler, hopefully it won't leave you stranded on your way here to Monterey! And, you definitely won't need your A/C here either, it's staying a comfortable 65 - 70 degrees daily.
Monterey is great right now. It's just everything in between Kansas and there that is stupid hot.
For half of what you paid for that 911, you could have got a Terminator Mustang with twice the HP!!! And the sound of that 4.6 and the super charger, oh that sound!!!
Tyler, want an EASY way for more power and less cost? Subaru EJ20. Boom. And the AC will work. MUCH better.
Hoovie, the kinda guy that will tell you all the quarks and features about his air cooled 911.
Hoovie, if the heats got you beat, get some light tinting. Just a little goes a very long way.
Tiny the windows on that beast, 70% 3M christaline, light tint which won't look weird on an old car but it will keep the car way cooler and make your AC way more effective. Do the windshield too. Thank me later
AC lol.... welcome to Mid 80’s Germany! I spend a lot of time in Germany, they’re not scared of sweating!!!!!!
One thing can make you forget all those little issues
Big turbo
Roll down the windows while you're at it and turn if not completely delete that heavy a/c😄
The airco gas lines that run from the back to the front go porous after 10-20 years. Fitting new gas lines and regassing the system will make the airco work fine
Porsche parts have always been expensive. My 1971 911T, that I bought in 1974, the dealer price for spark plugs was $10.00 each ($10.00 x 6 = $60.00) and $20.00 for an oil filter. Lots of money in 1974. I fortunately found out that the oil filter was the same Motorcraft filter my Mustangs used that at the time you could buy at Kmart for $1.00
Next video Hoovie buys E30 M3.
Lost Soul he already has one rip
Geopou no he doesn't? he has an E36 that he sold
Ben Fillman im a dumbass i didnt realise which m3 the e30 was i dont know my bmws obviously lol. When did he sell it?
Geopou they look nothing alike but yeah he sold it last week
Ben Fillman im really bad with european cars.
Today I found a 911 3.2 near me for sale. $28k and it's cleannn. I then looked up about them on youtube. Then your video came up and was posted today :P Same specs too.
Lets see Hoovie, My 996 A/C works great, even when it's 110+ degrees here in Vegas. The parts are not that expensive, AND not hard to find.
It's comfy on long drives and works as a daily driver, all the things that my 993, (And my 912), were not.
So now I'm looking for a 997 and will never go back to an air cooled 911. I just hope all the derision from the airheads will keep the prices down.
If you want the clutch to feel ‘normal’ then remove the omega spring on the clutch arm. It will make the clutch pedal heavier but it will feel more linear in its actuation.
And now I'm going to give it a Hoovie score
I walked by one of these and my 9 year old son said hey dad they finally made vw bettles looks cool
Glad it wasn't just me with the AC. Had an 81" Targa SC- took it back 3 times with AC complaints- was finally told "That's as good as it gets, it doesn't get that warm in Germany"- oh well. Was a blast to drive though.P.S. I enjoy your videos
I learned how to drive a stick on a 911 s, after that every other car was was so easy to drive. Love the steering feel.
I must be nuts because I live in Bakersfield, Ca which is actually quite hot and I had the blower disconnected, I believe a Porsche to be a real sport car, should be bare bones, essentially. I like my windows down and sometimes I even open my sun roof. LOL
You're going to make the internet melt. Hoovie LS Swap old 911 = The Last Jedi
Add a tint that blocks UV and IR light like 3M Crystiline (sp?) I added a light 3M tint to my 997, and I can tell a big difference on how well it works keeping the car cool.
I feel ya Tyler I live here in Derby KS and work there in Wichita and when it's over 100° or a day like today it won't keep up until I'm on 235
This is a great looking car, the prefect color for this model, I would love to drive one of this era. Would love to buy one too but... you did great on this one. Have fun with it !
It's just an aircooled Bug with 2 more cylinders. I've owned many Volkswagens. If they timing is set right, the valves are adjusted, the oil is clean, and your carburetor is in tune it will run and run like a tractor. There is nothing to really go wrong, and if it does it's usually super obvious and simple. Welcome to Aircooled VW's.
If you want to fix the AC you need to add another condenser to get heat out of the refrigerant. Griffith's offers a kit to do this.
Take the ls swapped 911 to the 70 years of Porsche, would love to see the reactions
the factory tail is what really sets it apart.....i am sure you are aware that there are several ac upgrade kits that will make you happy..
Dunno the laws in your state Hoovie but I would think some quality heat reduction Window Tint would help keep the heat out.
And the black tint would probably go really well with the rest of the black accent on the body.
Get some tint on the windows if you’re concerned about it heating up in the summer!!
I love that car. Old 911s are the best! Sounds like it needs a valve adjustment soon though.
Hoovie you should really consider buying a pre 2007 Saab 9-5 Aero. You'll absolutely love it.
Nice car. To help mitigate the cooling problems one could be creative and go the route of mitigating the cause: Heat. Wrapping the exhaust and insulating the cooling lines/ducts would be a logical place to start. Having an auxiliary engine oil cooler in line with the original would also aid in heat mitigation with the ancillary benefit of protecting the internal engine components from further heat/wear degradation. Using heat insulation in the cab and engine compartment is also another inexpensive way to deal with heat allowing the A/C to function more effectively. There are kits available to spin the engine fan quicker to further enhance engine cooling. Good luck. Thank you.
The engine sound is magical for sure.Have you cross referenced air cooled VW parts like the blower motor.Use to maintain some german cars back in 70s and a lot of the parts were interchangeable and 1/3 the price and sometimes much cheaper than that!
Ceramic window film will help with that A/C problem.
the fact that it has the factory whale tail makes it "gold". $1000 bucks to upgrade the ac and you will be very happy
I just realized that the 911 has wrong positioned wipers for left hand drive car. They should pointing to the left that the driver would've better visibility during the rain like it's in every other car.
Try some heat and UV rejection window tint on it. It made a huge difference in my 911. You don’t even have to go very dark. It will give your AC a chance to keep up
Daddy Dou-
Nvm wrong channel
Those look like classic and now vintage a/d/s 300i rear deck speakers, made in Wilmington, Massachusetts. That company was responsible for starting out so many car stereo installers on the path to true high fidelity. Not surprising at all to see them in a 911.
Can you knock it off with the $10k rebuild line? Most oil consumption issues on that car are traced to the valve guides so a full rebuild is almost never done at your mileage. A top end rebuild is still not cheap if you’re having someone else do the work but it’s less than half that.
You paid $40K for a VW Beetle that something heavy fell on - you screwed up. Seriously though, you won't lose money on this one - I might think nostalgia buying is irrational and insane, but it's still a real thing, and any car with the nostalgia value of the air cooled 911 is not going to depreciate unless the global economy tanks (which is always a possibility) or you start modifying it.
this dude cracks me up ........i tell ya
loved the bloopers