At 3:00 The word "barbarian" in Herodotus Histories from the Greek language is actually incorrect, Herodotus uses this word for a lot of people, a more correct word would be "foreigners", even Tom Holland who translated the penguin classics for Herodotus Histories said he used the word "barbarian" because he wanted to make a distinct difference between Greek/Hellenic culture and The Achaemenid Persian Empire but this really shows he has a lot of bias in his own translation and pushes his own agenda, and it seems a lot of other have translations have copped him like Herodotus Landmark the one you reviewed in this video.
I love this book! I read it with Jack the RR last year. There’s something for everyone. I missed Herodotus when I finished it. My favourite story was the wife who needed to see if her long haired husband had ears. Read the book to find out why! Thanks, Deb
I've never heard of Herodotus, so I really appreciate this video for educating me about him. Historians do such important work and I'm glad he was able to document all that fascinating stuff. Without him, who knows how much of that would have been lost to time.
Wonderful discussion of Herodotus. BTW, I'm back from my UA-cam posting hiatus. I made a bit of a tribute/thank you to you in my video yesterday. Peace!
It's so funny you share that copy. I bought this exact copy about a week ago for my Ancient Greek history class for fall semester. I'm so excited to finally read him, since I've heard him mentioned quite a bit when learning about ancient history! I also just bought the same edition of Thucydides as well.
Superb. Added to the list. I did just hear about a website by a Spartan casual historian who is trying to change the perceptions of what Sparta is remembered as: Sparta reconsidered. Did not have time to get into it much but you may enjoy.
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 I love history and it’s so rare to come across reviews of history books. You’ve made me excited to read this one. Thank you for that.
Herodotus is wonderful, although his style takes some getting used to, as it is very disorganized and he has many, many long digressions. He's best described as a Storyteller and Traveller
I could not decide which edition of Herodotus to buy. I have a penguin edition which is fine but felt there must be better. Your video solved my problem. Thanks!
I have never read Herodotus, but have certainly heard of him a fair bit. It's been a long time since I studied the classical civilisations, but this sounds so interesting. Also I kind of love that herodotus was your vacation read.
Europe by train! Only way to do it! We rented a car once and it didn’t go well. Breaking down in Italy is not advised 🤣 I haven’t read Herodotus yet. I have the cheap Barnes and Noble edition. I will have to look for this one.
Super Michael I'm going to get myself a copy too. Are you going to join Summer, Vin and I for a Herodotus buddy read? I think it's a reread for Vin and I but I'm going to read the Holland edition for the first time.
Herodotus always seemed like a guy that presented with new facts.....his mind could be changed. Which I liked. Whereas Thucydides seemed like a person that thought he was so smart that nothing could change his mind. Reminds me of a lot of people I know. IMO. Very Nice, and Interesting Video 👍😁👍
My lady and I made the same trip from Italy through Switzerland and into France and when we were going through the Alps I was wondering if this is the route Hannibal took. And as for crazy animals giant lizards were considered nonsense then Iguanadon was discovered and now you can other dinosaur skeletons in the Field Museum
This was great! You definitely got me interested in this. Read a fair bit of Ancient Greek philosophy, but not Greek history. Looking forward to the rest of your videos covering Greek historians!
You're so smart. Would you have been an archaeologist? If I had known what my interests would be as an adult, I definitely would have gone into the sciences, either botany or archaeology.
Great video, I'd love to get this book in hardcover but it's so hard to find. Can you please share where you got it or a link? That would be much appreciated :)
The Roman Twelve Tables are not in this book though I think you can find commentaries on them in Cicero. The funeral speech can be found in Thucydides.
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 thanx alot for responding ...i need primary source of twelve tables in order to make my assignment. .help me out please tell me the name of book which i get that tables as primary source. .....waiting for ur reply
@@zubairansari8396 sorry I’m at work and can’t really research this at the moment. I believe you might look up Cicero’s On The Republic. I can’t remember if they are in the early books of Livy.
Hugely interesting video. You've made a compelling case again, I'm on board and want to buy it. There's just one problem - Australian book prices !!! 😥😥😥 I bet Herodotus doesnt mention the Australian book gods. But a serious question. I have struggled with the Illiad (poetry !! - why??😴 ). Please tell me this isnt written like that. I expect the writing will reflect the time it was written, but from what I could see of the pages it looks like it's written in a more conventional style. I hope so.
Herodotus wrote in a very conversational prose style. I’m starting to think you should move to America! I mean, it’s dangerous, but at least our books are reasonably priced!
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 Phew !! I'm relieved. As for moving to America - I'm not sure America is ready for me 🤣 I have travelled there a few times though.
Whose translation is this? Rawlinson? With some clever editorial comments added? Or is this a new translation, backed by recent research? Most texts are simply the Rawlinson translation with some nifty maps thrown in; but without the notes and essays of the original Rawlinson edition (1885). Unless this is a definite improvement of that edition, i will pass on this.
Mr Indiana Vaughn, this Landmark book looks amazing!
I ordered The Landmark Herodotus in paperback. Can't believe I've never read it before...too many books, so little time (left)....
At 3:00 The word "barbarian" in Herodotus Histories from the Greek language is actually incorrect, Herodotus uses this word for a lot of people, a more correct word would be "foreigners", even Tom Holland who translated the penguin classics for Herodotus Histories said he used the word "barbarian" because he wanted to make a distinct difference between Greek/Hellenic culture and The Achaemenid Persian Empire but this really shows he has a lot of bias in his own translation and pushes his own agenda, and it seems a lot of other have translations have copped him like Herodotus Landmark the one you reviewed in this video.
I love this book! I read it with Jack the RR last year. There’s something for everyone. I missed Herodotus when I finished it. My favourite story was the wife who needed to see if her long haired husband had ears. Read the book to find out why! Thanks, Deb
Love your reviews! Thanks for sharing.
I was wondering when you’d get to this. I’ve always admired your passion for this subject and it shows through here. Great job!
Great video. Thanks! I’m off to find that book!
I've never heard of Herodotus, so I really appreciate this video for educating me about him. Historians do such important work and I'm glad he was able to document all that fascinating stuff. Without him, who knows how much of that would have been lost to time.
Next year I am going to read all of the Landmark series including Herodotus, so thank fir the useful review, Michael.
Wonderful discussion of Herodotus. BTW, I'm back from my UA-cam posting hiatus. I made a bit of a tribute/thank you to you in my video yesterday. Peace!
I am unworthy! Thanks though!
I always enjoy your reviews, and this may be my favorite so far. I loved hearing how this book changed you life. This a a great discussion.
Thanks!
Great video. I love the Landmark edition. I also love the Landmark edition for Thucydides.
It's so funny you share that copy. I bought this exact copy about a week ago for my Ancient Greek history class for fall semester. I'm so excited to finally read him, since I've heard him mentioned quite a bit when learning about ancient history! I also just bought the same edition of Thucydides as well.
That is a coincidence! I hope you enjoy him!
Superb. Added to the list.
I did just hear about a website by a Spartan casual historian who is trying to change the perceptions of what Sparta is remembered as: Sparta reconsidered. Did not have time to get into it much but you may enjoy.
Thanks for letting me know about that!
This book is on my shelf and I can’t wait to read it. Thank you for this review.
You are so welcome!
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 I love history and it’s so rare to come across reviews of history books. You’ve made me excited to read this one. Thank you for that.
Have a Penguin Classic version, and being a History Major, I should finally read it.....
Herodotus is wonderful, although his style takes some getting used to, as it is very disorganized and he has many, many long digressions. He's best described as a Storyteller and Traveller
I could not decide which edition of Herodotus to buy. I have a penguin edition which is fine but felt there must be better. Your video solved my problem.
Thanks!
Glad I could help. This is, indeed, the one to get.
Great video!
I have never read Herodotus, but have certainly heard of him a fair bit. It's been a long time since I studied the classical civilisations, but this sounds so interesting.
Also I kind of love that herodotus was your vacation read.
I’m weird that way. The last book I read on a beach was Polybius.
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 Looking forward to the upcoming further discussion of Herodotus!
Wonderful
Europe by train! Only way to do it! We rented a car once and it didn’t go well. Breaking down in Italy is not advised 🤣 I haven’t read Herodotus yet. I have the cheap Barnes and Noble edition. I will have to look for this one.
Oh man, breaking down in Italy would be stressful!
Super Michael I'm going to get myself a copy too. Are you going to join Summer, Vin and I for a Herodotus buddy read? I think it's a reread for Vin and I but I'm going to read the Holland edition for the first time.
When is this happening? How did I miss this?
@@DavidWiley7 I think it is taking place in August I need to confirm with Summer and Vin but you are welcome to join us :)
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 should be taking place in August would be super to have you abroad Michael :D
Herodotus always seemed like a guy that presented with new facts.....his mind could be changed. Which I liked.
Whereas Thucydides seemed like a person that thought he was so smart that nothing could change his mind.
Reminds me of a lot of people I know. IMO.
Very Nice, and Interesting Video 👍😁👍
Thanks!
Also, I think you have both Herodotus and Thucydides figured out!
My lady and I made the same trip from Italy through Switzerland and into France and when we were going through the Alps I was wondering if this is the route Hannibal took. And as for crazy animals giant lizards were considered nonsense then Iguanadon was discovered and now you can other dinosaur skeletons in the Field Museum
This was great! You definitely got me interested in this. Read a fair bit of Ancient Greek philosophy, but not Greek history. Looking forward to the rest of your videos covering Greek historians!
"The Greeks had to do something they weren't very good at, which was get together..." yep :D
You're so smart. Would you have been an archaeologist? If I had known what my interests would be as an adult, I definitely would have gone into the sciences, either botany or archaeology.
Part of me would have liked to have been a history professor. The other part of me is too lazy…the bigger part!
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 Ha!
Great video, I'd love to get this book in hardcover but it's so hard to find. Can you please share where you got it or a link? That would be much appreciated :)
I actually bought this when it came out. I know it’s harder to get now.
How many books are in this landmark series? and do you know if they started a landmark Roman historian series?
They are up to six, I think. Caesar’s books are now in a Landmark volume.
I tried finding an ebook of this title with no luck!
I don’t think one exists.
I found this book at good will and sold it for 150 dollars
Please reply. ...is this book has twelve table & famous funeral speech in it ?
The Roman Twelve Tables are not in this book though I think you can find commentaries on them in Cicero. The funeral speech can be found in Thucydides.
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 thanx alot for responding ...i need primary source of twelve tables in order to make my assignment. .help me out please tell me the name of book which i get that tables as primary source. .....waiting for ur reply
@@zubairansari8396 sorry I’m at work and can’t really research this at the moment. I believe you might look up Cicero’s On The Republic. I can’t remember if they are in the early books of Livy.
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 okay thank you
Hugely interesting video. You've made a compelling case again, I'm on board and want to buy it. There's just one problem - Australian book prices !!! 😥😥😥 I bet Herodotus doesnt mention the Australian book gods. But a serious question. I have struggled with the Illiad (poetry !! - why??😴 ). Please tell me this isnt written like that. I expect the writing will reflect the time it was written, but from what I could see of the pages it looks like it's written in a more conventional style. I hope so.
Herodotus wrote in a very conversational prose style. I’m starting to think you should move to America! I mean, it’s dangerous, but at least our books are reasonably priced!
@@michaelk.vaughan8617 Phew !! I'm relieved. As for moving to America - I'm not sure America is ready for me 🤣 I have travelled there a few times though.
Whose translation is this? Rawlinson? With some clever editorial comments added? Or is this a new translation, backed by recent research? Most texts are simply the Rawlinson translation with some nifty maps thrown in; but without the notes and essays of the original Rawlinson edition (1885).
Unless this is a definite improvement of that edition, i will pass on this.