@@half55-qo1tq it will hard spam your computer to give it money for premium antivirus with the same tactics viruses will use basically, with random windows you didn't ask to be opened. I hate when I see like someone old who doesn't know better with it.
Anyone who's had it understands completely and will agree. The worst part is my parents insisted that without this program or similar I wouldn't be "taking care of my computer." A horrible, foul breach of trust.
@@half55-qo1tqAll antivirus available to civilians and end users just compares files to known malware samples and deletes it, and checks how it interacts with systems for a few seconds, but due to this simplicity anti-malware is kind of useless. Norton is on the lower end of quality but it also charges outrageous prices and always tries to upsell everything.
@@QuwehShunMarksadly a lot of parents were and are like this lol. I bet they get mad when you tell them it’d be better to not have it on their pc at all. They paid good money for it dammit and they are going to stick with it lol.
@@xXRealXx man i wish, i had to go through a whole mess to get rid of it. iirc they literally require you to install a completely seperate uninstaller to actually get rid of it because it roots itself in your system like a fucking weed. its the worst.
My Linux/PC Tech teacher told us about a time he had to deal with a particularly evil piece of malware. It contained four files in different locations. Every time one file was deleted, the other three would rebuild that file, even in "safe mode". I picked this story because of his hilarious solution. He made a blank file with the same name as one of the four. Deleted that particular one and quickly popped the fake one in the folder. Then when he went to delete the other three, they didn't have all of the required files to rebuild themselves.
McAfee. It has to be anything to do with McAfee. It's like glitter, the herpes of arts and crafts: once it's present, you'll never be fully ridden of it.
I remember back in the day there was a virus that slowly turned all your personal pics into pictures of squids. Which sounds funny until your last pictures of Nana have been turned into calamari.
@@sumhappenedtocudi9023 You propably need to ask her for her brother name... LoL "A Japanese man named Masato Nakatsuji has been arrested and accused of writing a computer virus that replaces all the files on a person's computer with home-made manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. It's believed that somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 computers have been infected by the Ika-tako virus, which translates to "Squid-octopus". It spread through the Winny filesharing network, disguised as a music file, and once run the malware works through the files of the hard disk, replacing each with an image of a marine invertebrate. It's not the first time that Nakatsuji has been arrested for virus creation. In 2008 he was convicted of violating copyright after coding malware that replaced data with an image from anime series Clannad. He told the police in this case that he didn't think he'd be arrested again because he'd created the squid and octopus images himself, avoiding a breach of copyright."
I once heard of somebody who torrented Norton, ran it on their computer (💀), and it successfully detected itself as malicious software and deleted itself
So, in a horrible mistake, way back in the early 2000's, I had accidentally installed both McAfee and Norton onto the same computer. I didn't realize the other one was already on it. We had to completely wipe it. They both kept fighting each other and deleting parts of each other till the system broke. Decided to never use either again after that. Also don't use Avast, it too is a mess.
Back in the 90's, we had Norton Crash Guard on our computer. It was the cause of 99.99% of the crashes we experienced. When we uninstalled it and deleted all the registry entries for it, we stopped crashing.
It's funny how most antivirus programs turn out to be bloatware, spyware or malware, like, dude, you were supposed to destroy my enemies, not become one (looking at you Avast bloatware on my Xiaomi phone)
Xiaomi is pretty bad, but arguably that's because they've billed themselves as the most corner-cutting priced phone. Ads in systems apps lol. You really need to do a full system reflash to another OS if you want it cleaner. Good thing they have an unlocker so you don't need to 3rd party root the phone.
@@bluerendar2194 Sudden core memory reaccessed after reading this. Way back in the day they were selling a computer for 100$ that cost more than that to produce but they supported it with built in ads. Immediately people figured out how to put a different system on it and they went bankrupt.
@@bluerendar2194 thats what makes it great value. You can just flash another OS in less than an hour and have a great phone for an affordable price. Saving 50 dollars for a similar spec phone from another brand is absolutely worth an hour
@@bluerendar2194 Yeah, as a POCO X3 NFC user here, the OS that came with my phone (MIUI) was so outrageously disgusting, terrible, buggy, slow and borderline invasive, that I literally changed my Phone to a custom ROM just one month after using my phone. Gotta say, it's impressive.
One time, as a joke, I tried to run Doom Eternal on my dad’s laptop from an external hard drive, and he keeps telling me “Get Steam off my laptop, it’s slowing everything down!” He has Norton.
As someone that worked in IT for many years.... this was the best response. We've been saying this FOREVER lol. Windows XP would be struggling to breathe as Norton had a death grip on its throat. Delete it....machine ran fine.
Had a similar thing back around 2007. The day the norton subscription was over it suddenly reported we had tons of viruses and the computer was super slow and unusable. Looking at the task manager norton had 95% CPU usage. Removed norton and computer ran perfect
@@theway280 it just does more harm than good, windows defender is perfectly fine but the store would purposely push target quota (sell laptop with x extra addons) to get more money out of you. you would actually be punished for not lying to people and telling them they should get extra services they wouldn't really need.
Did the same, but if someone was as pervasive as Norton on getting Norton or something similar, we sold it anyways. They'll run to another shop and get it there, better for them to get it with us so we can sack in the money and when they get back with a virus/slow PC, we can tell them "Told ya..."
My grandpa REFUSES to listen to us when we say Norton is nearly as bad as half the shit he’s afraid of. He’s constantly calling us because Norton has fucked up his computer somehow, but won’t let us uninstall it.
Sounds like old people and tech. "Fix my problems! What? This is the cause of it? LEAVE IT ALONE. WHY IS IT STILL HAVING PROBLEMS?" Got enough of that just doing customer support for Netflix. They're the most belligerent and it's almost always in the wrong god damn direction. These are also the same kinda people who call the support line for the thing they wanna use despite it not being the issue, the number of times the issue was literally just 'Your internet's down, you should reach out with them.' and got pushback for that, was WAY too damn high! I'd walk'm through trying to load up Hulu, connection error, UA-cam, connection error. I always had them test three apps that weren't Netflix, after the third, letting them know it's an internet issue, not Netflix, I feel like they assumed because Netflix has "Net" in it, that they're the internet provider or something? Shit doesn't make any sense.
Actual facts. I think it was Norton that prompts you to uninstall other anti viruses and then proceeds to literally take control of the curser and click around uninstalling them for you. Nothing has ever made me dive to rip out an Ethernet cable faster thinking someone’s got a dodgy RDP connection into my machine. Unnecessarily spooky stuff man
I haven't looked at a Norton install in well over a decade now. Is that for real? It legitimately takes control of user input to uninstall other antivirus for you?!
@@psieonic I *think* it was Norton but yeah mouse starts snapping to buttons and it clicks for you. No warning so it just looks like someone’s got control of your machine
As somebody who tried to uninstall Norton, I wholeheartedly agree. Just wipe the slate, burn the plate, sanction the machine spirit, purge the heretech!
norton was so hard to get rid of. kid me was a naive mofo for installing it thinking i'm getting an extra level of security. had to reinstall windows. learned my lesson.
@@KittehFox You were actually infected by a virus/malware which could exploit AVG to instruct it into doing things :) Not only adding "forced positives" it could also exclude other known malware etc. People are really creative. 🙃
McAfee is funny tho. Its open about being a corporate scam, its creator made a tutorial on how to get rid of it while drinking, smoking, and surrounded by hot women. Shortly after he was found dead in a prison in mexico.
McAffe is the most annoying thing I've ever seen. It pops up and slows down everything for absolutely no reason. Also doesn't it display false statistics? I don't think there are 400 viruses on my pc and yet it always says that.
I work geek squad and I like to tell customers that Norton, McAfee, etc. Are like the Italian mafia guys in the movies that bust up your mom and pop convenience store until you pay them "protection" money.
@@GoatGamingCanada most people don’t want to hack your computer, and the ones that do would find a way to get you to install the malware for them. Just don’t download random crap from sources you don’t know.
@@PocketBeemRocket and if you do, don't complain when the obvious happens. Anyway I have a garbage laptop just to download malware onto. I'm pretty sure that thing is unsalvageable due to how much I've installed on it lmaoo.
When I was younger and got my first laptop, my grandpa forced me to delete Norton. I didn't understand then, but as I aged, I understood all too well....
The fact that, unless you specifically told it not to, the adobe acrobat reader installer would also throw McAfee on your machine was criminal. Not sure if it still does this but it got on everything as a result
When you install reader you have to click the box to not include Mcafee. Didn’t realize it until I took the time to read the small print. I hate that they make it seem like you’re agreeing to terms to download.
Get Unchecky. Whenever you are installing something, it simply makes all the optional extras unticked by default. If you actually want something, you can take the time to click it yourself.
The real solution is to not use Adobe Acrobat Reader. That shit just makes your machine bend over and opens every back door. Damn near anything else is better.
Seriously! My coworker asked me if I could fix her slow computer. She brought it in and it took 5 minutes to boot up to the windows login screen. Another 5 to log in. First thing that happens is 3 norton tabs from the actual app popping up and opening their Chromium version. Very strange. It was using 40% CPU and 60% RAM on idle because it was constantly scanning the computer files. She was paying for it as well. Just terrible. Deleted it and that solved 90% of the issue
I was constantly telling that to my friends since 2k10 and I told the "Norton Antivirus" is a commercial name abd ofcourse they won't name "Norton Malware" publicly
To get fair, you kinda wanted to do the opposite of whatever John said and did, but in that one case he was right. Broken clock on heroin is right twice a day and all
@@Maiden.less. man built the company. Almost like he'd know what he's doing. Feel free to rewrite him off for pissing off the feds and getting attacked a number of times
@@rekonener2362 I have never heard of this man in my life, thank you for informing me about this cause you're most certainly right. 47 genetic children...
I remember when you needed a special Norton uninstall program to uninstall Norton. All because viruses were able to uninstall your AV, but Norton couldn't distinguish between a virus trying to uninstall it and YOU trying to uninstall. A few times, the uninstall program wouldn't work, so I'd just delete the registry entries for it, restart PC, and then all good.
I used to get threatening messages from Norton like: " you're computer used to be safe while browsing the web... Maybe you should consider renewing your subscription"
@@luckydragonwolf I'll be honest, I have no idea what happend for you to get here, this is actually some sort of error handling message. With that being said.... Human.... I remember your hacks.
@@crossbladegaming6651its from that one video about "sans" from "undertale" talking to the main character think its titled "human i remember youre" or something
Lol. I have always said that the worst virus my machine ever got was the one it came with: McAfee Antivirus. The constant pop-ups and deceptive tactics trying to get you to extend your subscription are the worst, and the software itself was a nightmare any time the virus definitions needed to be updated. Worst. Software. Ever.
@@DjVanHeden Unless you start navigating some dubious websites and click on every get rich quick add, or single ladies in your area...you're good with just Windows Def
@@DjVanHeden use your brain; don't download shit from non-secure websites, scan files if you do, if at any point a website forces a file download on you: no matter the file type, delete it ASAP and scan your PC with defender and maybe even download a AntiVirus for a single thorough scan and then remove it again. The constant protection is not worth it, but using them to just check is actually a good practice on consumer level. But yeah, Microsoft spends a LOT of money and human-hours on improving Windows Defender, it's genuinely good enough for anyone just slightly careful.
I legit once saw Norton flag a serious threat and need a reboot immediately, the only thing missing when the computer came back up was Norton. Even it knows.
@@maxtube1952yeah, some smart people actually download shit to their lab rat called a malware laptop because laptops are cheap and you don’t actually use it in the intended manner, so nothing really happens
@@maxtube1952 when I was younger I got like a fourth-hand laptop and the second I got a better one(Like a week) I used the garbage to house malware on it to see what would happen. The answer? It doesn't run very well.
My PC came with McAfee, and the trial expired 2 years ago. I deleted literally everything from McAfee, and yet somehow still get popups and notifications from them. "It was said that you would DESTROY the Sith, not JOIN them!"
Check your running processes. It probably didn't uninstall some dumb service. Check your task schedule too. It might have added an entry to start said process to nag you. Check the registry too (but be careful).
Download an OEM copy of Windows (same as what you already have), burn it to USB. Reformat the drive and install the OEM version. No McAfee or any other bloatware.
We had a PC that was from 2004 and we had it until about 2016 just to play old games on it. It wasn't connected to the internet after 2005. Every time we booted it up the first pop up was "Renew Norton Anti-virus 2005"
That came from the heart. One of my favorite things to do is go outside of the US with a junk machine and just open it up to everything, and then spend some time cleaning it all up. HP machines, especially laptops, are very good for this because they have a hidden drive that's locked away physically separated from the main hard drive that will completely reset all the installed OS and software. Because sometimes I'm just not as good as all the ware operators out there.
Macafee did this to me once, but it took some system files with it, meaning I no longer had any ui on windows, I had to use cmd to open executables and file locations
@@emil3672 That's hilarious LMAO. I loved it when MIster McAfee himself would personally connect to my computer and steal my damn explorer.exe file too tbh
On the other hand, a really good antivirus wouldn't be a threat. (I remember the stuff with antiviruses detecting each other, and this comment gives it some amusing context.)
It's as easy as making a new encryption key. A FUD key is good for a week or so before the encryption gets compromised. Used to cost 15$ to get a fully undetectable encryption key from reputable specialists. Not sure the going rate these days.
That's the beauty of Norton AV! it's not detectable because everyone has been tricked into believing it's useful and is convinced that paying for it will make you safer. And it comes preinstalled!
My dad tried to be helpful one year and bought me a paid subscription to McAfee. He's not great with computers and i didn't have the heart to tell him so that thing sat on my desk for awhile before i threw it out.
I had to actively lock my dad out of my pc because he would just install mcaffee every time he used it. He still has it on his 14 year old desktop and has never seen it run correctly since before he installed it. And yes he never reformatted it.
That’s way too twisted to just throw it away lol I feel bad for not eating leftovers I take home from my parents but a gift like that there’s no way I’d just toss it that’s ruthless 😂
My dad recent got macafee because he got email saying his email was on dark web tried too tell him everyone's is just need better account security but he wouldn't losten
The laptop my parents got me for college had a free trial of mcafee on it, which I deliberately never set up or did anything with. After the free trial was over, they charged me to renew the service, which was iirc $120. To this day I don't know how they got my card info. I ended up bullying customer support into returning my money, and I think there was a class action lawsuit about this at some point.
My mom swears by Norton and it had always been an annoyance on the family computer. Then she expected me to get it on my own personal computer that I built. Yeah, no thanks.
Jokes aside, ransomware is surely the worst, generally speaking. An infected machine can be blown away and reinstalled. Irreparable file encryption, including any other machines accessible on the network? That's truly malicious.
Yeah, but ransomware, in effect bricks your machine. Then you have a choice, either i) pay up and HOPE you get the decryption key (hint, don't), Or ii) erase the hard disk and reinstall. And restore your data. None of this sneaky stuff. It's in your face.
See, I would argue that the worst one is CIH. Like sure, the drive is repairable, but the damage it caused by destroying the BIOS would cause a lot of monetary damage. Because ransomware can be battled with backups, CIH on the other hand, well good luck fixing your computer
@@smyalygames yeah but cih isn't really seen anymore. Ransomware is pervasive but like u said, can be countered by backups. The business i work for uses 3 different backups for each of our clients servers.
@@TenOfTwenty Yeah that's fair, I mostly said this as just "the worst one seen" (question from the short). But I would agree, that ransomware these days are the worst. I guess a close second would either have to be RATs or Botnets, as with those you may never even know that you've been infected with it However, kind of a shame that a lot of malware is targeted at making money rather than malice/ego these days... Well, I only say that because they're not creative anymore (just to make it clear - I do not condone the creation of malware that target victims, just wish there was a bit more creativity lol)
A now (thankfully) ex friend of mine once borrowed my laptop and infected it with McAfee. Someone else in the comments compared it to glitter and I couldn’t agree more. When I finally got the laptop back, the ex friend swore up and down that I was the one who installed all the McAfee shit that was suddenly popping up. She was the queen of gaslighting to make me feel like I was crazy. It took ages to finally get that shit off. It was awful. I’d finally get it to the point where it seemed to be gone and then 💥BOOM💥 another pop-up and suddenly everything was reinstalled as if I hadn’t just spent a ton of time removing it.
the worst malware, you install it willingly thinking it will help you. it didn't and you uninstall it. but it stays. and with more problem mess it caused.
Norton. My parents use it and my dad thinks because it has a password manager it's worth it. It literally spams them with ads to upgrade and eats cpu like crazy. "My computer is booting slow" Yeah it's Norton. "I ran Norton's extra paid feature as a free trial and now my computer runs faster!" Yeah because they literally designed it so you pay for that feature. The bad registry keys it's cleaning up are the keys it put in.
AVG and CCleaner are owned by Avast, but Avast and Avira (a german anti virus that was somewhat solid in the early 2010s) are owned by Gen Digital, which used to be Symantec, the company behind Norton. McAfee is still its own thing, but it's 49% owned by Intel.
@@lazylad76nothing wrong with CCleaner at all. It's not even an anti-virus it's just a declutter program that works fine and isn't nearly as invasive as actual anti-virus programs.
Most antiviruses are malware. As my professor said "YOU are first and last line of defense. And a disk wipe is the first and last option for removing a virus" To this day, still dunno how i feel about, well, nuking an entire pc for a virus . But, the first part really is important to understand
I'm not in IT and.. to be honest have a Norton account from my dad. As a tech leek, can anyone explain why it's this bad? I feel like an anti virus software for a dumdum like me is kinda needed...
@@ca_kay Back when inwaz doing consumer level IT there used to be a removal program, can't remember what it was called but itnwas specifically made for Nortan
Man, I remember when Norton was a go-to wayyyy back in the early days of the internet. Then it turned into something worse than what it was designed to protect you from. It got so badly designed that it ate more resources than Google Chrome on a bad day.
It happens with a large number of antivirus software. Start by being the darling free/cheap software, then get popular and start adding features that start taxing your PC, and the price just goes up and up.
You just reminded me of the time i had norton 360 and one day in the middle of playing minecraft with my friends norton 360 told me it had ran a scan without my permission and had found a virus. I checked what it was trying to delete... it was trying to delete itself... I wish this was a joke story but it's not.
My mom installed norton on an old computer I gave her, it bricked the whole thing. One day I spent an afternoon trying to turn on the computer, (took about 3 hours to get to windows with task manager open) and as soon as I force-closed norton, computer worked fine.
I'm from a time where Norton and McAfee were actually useful, I remember every now and again someone at school getting their hands on the latest pirated version of one of those and suddenly the whole class was using that. Then Windows Defender came along, people still used dedicated antivirus for a while, but Windows Defender got better and around the same time browsers started to push for security and sandboxing even more. Nowadays the best antivirus is common sense and Windows Defender always ON, and a scan with Malware Bites every now and again.
With Vista, I didn't even trust their OS! Why would I trust their protection software? By the time Windows 7 rolled around, I heard Defender was pretty good, and stuck with that. I *assume* better compatibility and quicker updates to remain compatible with an OS the same company puts out.
For Indonesian, there's this local antivirus called Smadav, that is actually a helpful tool because most people aren't tech savvy and they're infecting each other from flash drives, and Smadav helps recovering people from that virus. And then it became a useless app with green color that shows up every time you start your computer. And when I think people are smart enough already, I found people have it installed, damn.
Also Adblocks and overall better infrastructure of the internet add-ons. For example, even though JS is robust, it does not have nearly as much control to mess up with client's system as for example flash would have.
As someone who worked in tech support for several years the man's not wrong. Norton and McAfee were the absolute worst. Used to remote into customer machines and remove that garbage all the time.
So true. A lot of anti-virus software companies actually *create* unique viruses that initially only their own software knows how to get rid of, just to try and have an edge over the competition
Wow. I worked as a tech in the late 80s and much of the 90s. There was always this theory floating around in most discussions that Norton and McAfee actually caused many of the problems they purposed to "solve". Up until now, no one of trustworthy authority said this openly and plainly. Thanks Thor!
When I was in college(early 00s) Norton/McAffee where known jokes then... and Windows. Three most common resource eating "viruses" was Norton, McAffee and Windows
Growing up, my parents had Norton on the pc we all shared. Around the time I started high school, they got a new second computer, and put McAfee on it. I know not what it’s like to live without them…
SO TRUE THOUGH, ONE TIME I TRIED DELETING IT AND AT THE WORST TIME MY OTHER ANTIVIRUS I WANTED TO REPLACE IT STARTED DOWNLOADING. it bricked my pc so bad that nothing worked, had to hard reset my pc because not even setting it back to before would work
The worst was the Sony-BMG rootkit they put on Audio-CDs, which opened your machines to infection from other malware by giving it ring0 access and also sent personal data to Sony-BMG. Their "fix" was even worse, and classified as malware in itself. Over 20 million audio cds recalled because of that.
My parents once wanted to force me to install this malware even though it already killed one of my laptops. I was luckily able to pay them so they wouldn't install the malware on my new pc.
I like how he didn't elaborate - didn't *need* to elaborate
Can you elaborate? I have no idea what this antivirus is like?
@@half55-qo1tq it will hard spam your computer to give it money for premium antivirus with the same tactics viruses will use basically, with random windows you didn't ask to be opened. I hate when I see like someone old who doesn't know better with it.
Anyone who's had it understands completely and will agree. The worst part is my parents insisted that without this program or similar I wouldn't be "taking care of my computer." A horrible, foul breach of trust.
@@half55-qo1tqAll antivirus available to civilians and end users just compares files to known malware samples and deletes it, and checks how it interacts with systems for a few seconds, but due to this simplicity anti-malware is kind of useless. Norton is on the lower end of quality but it also charges outrageous prices and always tries to upsell everything.
@@QuwehShunMarksadly a lot of parents were and are like this lol. I bet they get mad when you tell them it’d be better to not have it on their pc at all. They paid good money for it dammit and they are going to stick with it lol.
"There might be malware on my system?
Yeah, it's YOU NORTON"
Proot!
@@zlette I've seen you reply to me a ton of times.
Progen
Nice colors btw!
@@j6moon15 Thanks.
Norton antivirus randomly uninstalling itself is the equivalent of a security guard being spooked by his own footsteps and shooting himself
This was a missed chance to reference the acorn cop 😒🤣
it does that? LMAO
@@xXRealXx man i wish, i had to go through a whole mess to get rid of it. iirc they literally require you to install a completely seperate uninstaller to actually get rid of it because it roots itself in your system like a fucking weed. its the worst.
@@evanhpome5909 lool just wanted to mention that
This made me cackle imagining this
My Linux/PC Tech teacher told us about a time he had to deal with a particularly evil piece of malware. It contained four files in different locations. Every time one file was deleted, the other three would rebuild that file, even in "safe mode".
I picked this story because of his hilarious solution. He made a blank file with the same name as one of the four. Deleted that particular one and quickly popped the fake one in the folder. Then when he went to delete the other three, they didn't have all of the required files to rebuild themselves.
So out-of-the-box, creative, and stupid that that’s all it took
Inspiration from Indiana Jones
Did that same thing to get rid the Microsoft browser
YEah that sounds about right for how norton behaves if you try to uninstall it
That's actually so damned cool. I feel like there's a D&D adventure or villain idea somewhere in here.
McAfee. It has to be anything to do with McAfee. It's like glitter, the herpes of arts and crafts: once it's present, you'll never be fully ridden of it.
Hilarious, yet accurate description lmfao
McAfee ruined one of my old computers years ago
Mr McAfee himself says it's a virus that Noone should have
Bruh it came with my laptop and I immediately re-installed windows
Literally just had to uninstall McAfee and Armoury Crate from my girlfriends brand new laptop the other day. Absolute dogshit bloatware.
I remember back in the day there was a virus that slowly turned all your personal pics into pictures of squids. Which sounds funny until your last pictures of Nana have been turned into calamari.
You remember the name or anything
@@sumhappenedtocudi9023 asking for a friend
@@sumhappenedtocudi9023 You propably need to ask her for her brother name... LoL
"A Japanese man named Masato Nakatsuji has been arrested and accused of writing a computer virus that replaces all the files on a person's computer with home-made manga images of squid, octopuses and sea urchins. It's believed that somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 computers have been infected by the Ika-tako virus, which translates to "Squid-octopus". It spread through the Winny filesharing network, disguised as a music file, and once run the malware works through the files of the hard disk, replacing each with an image of a marine invertebrate. It's not the first time that Nakatsuji has been arrested for virus creation. In 2008 he was convicted of violating copyright after coding malware that replaced data with an image from anime series Clannad. He told the police in this case that he didn't think he'd be arrested again because he'd created the squid and octopus images himself, avoiding a breach of copyright."
@@sumhappenedtocudi9023 Ika-Tako virus, it was from japan.
@@LuiDen "I'll never forgive the Japanese" Joseph Joestar
I once heard of somebody who torrented Norton, ran it on their computer (💀), and it successfully detected itself as malicious software and deleted itself
I mean. That's a good Av then 😂
That's absolutely fuckin hilarious
So, in a horrible mistake, way back in the early 2000's, I had accidentally installed both McAfee and Norton onto the same computer. I didn't realize the other one was already on it. We had to completely wipe it. They both kept fighting each other and deleting parts of each other till the system broke. Decided to never use either again after that. Also don't use Avast, it too is a mess.
Avast was great a long time ago. Now it's owned by the same company as Norton.
Did the same thing. My family computer was so jacked.
Back in the 90's, we had Norton Crash Guard on our computer. It was the cause of 99.99% of the crashes we experienced. When we uninstalled it and deleted all the registry entries for it, we stopped crashing.
But did the computer stop crashing.
@@TheOmegaRiddlerHe said that it did in the comment, didn't we?
@@NostalgicOccultist read borzoi comment once again word by word and you will get the joke
@@4S1X_ There is no joke unless you completely disassociated the following sentences talking about the subject made clear prior.
@@NostalgicOccultist be kind to him! He might be a Yu-Gi-Oh player
It's funny how most antivirus programs turn out to be bloatware, spyware or malware, like, dude, you were supposed to destroy my enemies, not become one (looking at you Avast bloatware on my Xiaomi phone)
Xiaomi is pretty bad, but arguably that's because they've billed themselves as the most corner-cutting priced phone. Ads in systems apps lol. You really need to do a full system reflash to another OS if you want it cleaner. Good thing they have an unlocker so you don't need to 3rd party root the phone.
Xiaomi phone...jesus christ. Your whole system is malware / spyware.
@@bluerendar2194 Sudden core memory reaccessed after reading this. Way back in the day they were selling a computer for 100$ that cost more than that to produce but they supported it with built in ads. Immediately people figured out how to put a different system on it and they went bankrupt.
@@bluerendar2194 thats what makes it great value. You can just flash another OS in less than an hour and have a great phone for an affordable price. Saving 50 dollars for a similar spec phone from another brand is absolutely worth an hour
@@bluerendar2194 Yeah, as a POCO X3 NFC user here, the OS that came with my phone (MIUI) was so outrageously disgusting, terrible, buggy, slow and borderline invasive, that I literally changed my Phone to a custom ROM just one month after using my phone.
Gotta say, it's impressive.
Holy shit, I get it now
My dad's computer had Norton and he always blamed "me and my videogames" for it
No it was definitely you and your video games and probably other stuff lol
@@davidgarcia-rv3fs lets be honest... dad was doing soooooo much worse....
One time, as a joke, I tried to run Doom Eternal on my dad’s laptop from an external hard drive, and he keeps telling me “Get Steam off my laptop, it’s slowing everything down!”
He has Norton.
I helped him delete Norton, and now his CPU usage is down from a constant 60-ish percent to 20 something.
@@davidgarcia-rv3fs definitely not, I have gigs and gigs of games and it still runs perfectly fine, zero issues
As someone that worked in IT for many years.... this was the best response. We've been saying this FOREVER lol. Windows XP would be struggling to breathe as Norton had a death grip on its throat. Delete it....machine ran fine.
Had a similar thing back around 2007. The day the norton subscription was over it suddenly reported we had tons of viruses and the computer was super slow and unusable. Looking at the task manager norton had 95% CPU usage. Removed norton and computer ran perfect
Worked in a tech shop for a while, every time someone thought about buying norton, I'd try my best to steer them away from it for this exact reason.
what's the reason?
Err.. it Is malware itself, that's like pouring gasoline on fire.
@@theway280 it just does more harm than good, windows defender is perfectly fine but the store would purposely push target quota (sell laptop with x extra addons) to get more money out of you. you would actually be punished for not lying to people and telling them they should get extra services they wouldn't really need.
@@RiversJ I think there's better ways of phrasing it tbh. Norton is more of a scam
Did the same, but if someone was as pervasive as Norton on getting Norton or something similar, we sold it anyways. They'll run to another shop and get it there, better for them to get it with us so we can sack in the money and when they get back with a virus/slow PC, we can tell them "Told ya..."
My grandpa REFUSES to listen to us when we say Norton is nearly as bad as half the shit he’s afraid of. He’s constantly calling us because Norton has fucked up his computer somehow, but won’t let us uninstall it.
Uninstall it with out him knowing
Uninstall and change his desktop wallpaper to norton
Sounds like old people and tech.
"Fix my problems! What? This is the cause of it? LEAVE IT ALONE. WHY IS IT STILL HAVING PROBLEMS?"
Got enough of that just doing customer support for Netflix. They're the most belligerent and it's almost always in the wrong god damn direction.
These are also the same kinda people who call the support line for the thing they wanna use despite it not being the issue, the number of times the issue was literally just 'Your internet's down, you should reach out with them.' and got pushback for that, was WAY too damn high! I'd walk'm through trying to load up Hulu, connection error, UA-cam, connection error. I always had them test three apps that weren't Netflix, after the third, letting them know it's an internet issue, not Netflix, I feel like they assumed because Netflix has "Net" in it, that they're the internet provider or something? Shit doesn't make any sense.
@@Marshe.Valias Bros yapping but speaking facts still 🗣️🔥
No guarantee you could uninstall it anyway. 😂 At least not without nuking his drive.
Him: yeah it Norton
Me: Nervously looking at Norton Security on desktop
Actual facts. I think it was Norton that prompts you to uninstall other anti viruses and then proceeds to literally take control of the curser and click around uninstalling them for you. Nothing has ever made me dive to rip out an Ethernet cable faster thinking someone’s got a dodgy RDP connection into my machine. Unnecessarily spooky stuff man
I haven't looked at a Norton install in well over a decade now. Is that for real? It legitimately takes control of user input to uninstall other antivirus for you?!
@@psieonicold versions did until it became against the law
@@psieonic I *think* it was Norton but yeah mouse starts snapping to buttons and it clicks for you. No warning so it just looks like someone’s got control of your machine
As somebody who tried to uninstall Norton, I wholeheartedly agree. Just wipe the slate, burn the plate, sanction the machine spirit, purge the heretech!
Only the litany of holy data cleansing followed by thrice blessings to the Omnissiah can purge the heretical scrap code that is Norton!!
I'll go get the priest!
Get the flamer brother, heavy flamer 🔥
a metric ton of incense @@AppalachianWarhammer
I dont think the mechanicus will allow such a thing to happen to their things, yet I have my doubt @@Mat_O.
Norton once bricked my PC. I had to bring it to a specialist who yeeted it off my computer, and it went back to normal.
For me it was AVG, literally tossed a part of system 32 into the virus chest lmao.
@@KittehFox lmfao
Had this happen to an uncle's PC, literally caused it to BSOD and restart every few minutes, uninstalled that garbage and everything worked fine.
norton was so hard to get rid of. kid me was a naive mofo for installing it thinking i'm getting an extra level of security. had to reinstall windows. learned my lesson.
@@KittehFox You were actually infected by a virus/malware which could exploit AVG to instruct it into doing things :) Not only adding "forced positives" it could also exclude other known malware etc. People are really creative. 🙃
This is quite literal. Norton very literally starts to behave like very literal malware if your trial / subscription runs out.
He has a point. I once paid for NORTON 360 and it slowed down my machine so much no virus could run in it, but neither could Word Processor.
I was sitting through the whole thing saying "McAfee McAfee McAfee"
McAfee is also really fuckin bad too.
Fair, that's only _slightly_ better
McAfee is funny tho.
Its open about being a corporate scam, its creator made a tutorial on how to get rid of it while drinking, smoking, and surrounded by hot women.
Shortly after he was found dead in a prison in mexico.
The inventor of McAfee has a UA-cam channel and it's absolutely CRACKED. Look up how to uninstall McAfee
The inventor of McAfee is insane, look up "How to Uninstall McAfee" by John McAfee, shits hilarious
I thought he was going to say McAfee.
Getting rid of it on a new machine always feels like removing a a pre-installed virus.
At least you can remove McAfee.
I'm just kidding, they're both bad.
Bricked a laptop trying to remove McAfee 💀
McAffe is the most annoying thing I've ever seen. It pops up and slows down everything for absolutely no reason. Also doesn't it display false statistics? I don't think there are 400 viruses on my pc and yet it always says that.
@@petrrmiseuron an older system I believe I needed to do a factory reset to get rid of it :/
@@petrrmiseur for me it has always been some absurd number of registry issues.
"What is the worst malware ever"
"My dad is the wow guy from south park, let me draw it for you on the bottom of the screen..."
The only time I had Norton, it pinged part of its own program as a potential threat 😂
That’s how mine deleted itself
"What does it do?"
“Where did it come from?"
"Where did it go?"
"Where did it come from, cotton eye joe?"
Great minds think alike, as soon as he finished say where did it come from I said cotton eyed Joe
I was just thinking that
Gedigedagedagadao
Techno ReReReeeeee-mix.
Who is your daddy?
and what does he do?
I work geek squad and I like to tell customers that Norton, McAfee, etc. Are like the Italian mafia guys in the movies that bust up your mom and pop convenience store until you pay them "protection" money.
Okay so what software should one use to protect their computer effectively?
@@GoatGamingCanada Windows Defender. Thats all you need.
@@GoatGamingCanada Your brain. Don't be dumb. Don't do dumb.
@@GoatGamingCanada most people don’t want to hack your computer, and the ones that do would find a way to get you to install the malware for them. Just don’t download random crap from sources you don’t know.
@@PocketBeemRocket and if you do, don't complain when the obvious happens.
Anyway I have a garbage laptop just to download malware onto. I'm pretty sure that thing is unsalvageable due to how much I've installed on it lmaoo.
Thor, you are 100% correct. What aggravates me is they sell it to seniors for $99 bucks a year.
When I was younger and got my first laptop, my grandpa forced me to delete Norton. I didn't understand then, but as I aged, I understood all too well....
The fact that, unless you specifically told it not to, the adobe acrobat reader installer would also throw McAfee on your machine was criminal. Not sure if it still does this but it got on everything as a result
When you install reader you have to click the box to not include Mcafee. Didn’t realize it until I took the time to read the small print. I hate that they make it seem like you’re agreeing to terms to download.
Get Unchecky.
Whenever you are installing something, it simply makes all the optional extras unticked by default. If you actually want something, you can take the time to click it yourself.
Tons and tons of people never read what they're agreeing to when they click 'install'. This is the fast track to letting in viruses too...
They dont use McAfee anymore. It uses Avast or AVG now.
The real solution is to not use Adobe Acrobat Reader. That shit just makes your machine bend over and opens every back door. Damn near anything else is better.
Seriously! My coworker asked me if I could fix her slow computer. She brought it in and it took 5 minutes to boot up to the windows login screen. Another 5 to log in. First thing that happens is 3 norton tabs from the actual app popping up and opening their Chromium version. Very strange. It was using 40% CPU and 60% RAM on idle because it was constantly scanning the computer files. She was paying for it as well. Just terrible. Deleted it and that solved 90% of the issue
So true, but if my job, it's was Win10 defender )
No way a human being is actively paying for that
@@itram99 insane but happens a lot lmao. Should be sued
@@itram99 Lot of people dont know better, they hear the old "win defender sucks" and "get antivirus" especially with how stores try and sell it
@imp_raziel dude, windows defender is literally one of the best AVs you can get
i remember deleting norton from the family computer and i got in trouble for putting the pc at risk. this healed my inner child a bit
I was constantly telling that to my friends since 2k10 and I told the "Norton Antivirus" is a commercial name abd ofcourse they won't name "Norton Malware" publicly
norton and mcafee, John McAfee himself even denounced the company and told people it was more or less malware
To get fair, you kinda wanted to do the opposite of whatever John said and did, but in that one case he was right. Broken clock on heroin is right twice a day and all
In the company's "defence," (and i use that term very loosely) John Macafee was a bit....Well...the stories on him were certainly a read
@@Maiden.less. man built the company. Almost like he'd know what he's doing. Feel free to rewrite him off for pissing off the feds and getting attacked a number of times
@@rekonener2362 He certainly was a "character".
@@rekonener2362 I have never heard of this man in my life, thank you for informing me about this cause you're most certainly right. 47 genetic children...
Me: it's either gonna be something really fucked like a DOS delete or... Norton.
Thor: Norton.
I forgot Norton's name, so I said the next closest thing that came to mind.
McAfee.
They're pretty similar anyway.
@@m0nkEz yeah McAfee was my first thought, too. but when he said Norton I was like "oh yeah. that tracks"
My immediate thought was norton.
I remember when you needed a special Norton uninstall program to uninstall Norton. All because viruses were able to uninstall your AV, but Norton couldn't distinguish between a virus trying to uninstall it and YOU trying to uninstall. A few times, the uninstall program wouldn't work, so I'd just delete the registry entries for it, restart PC, and then all good.
I’ve been saying this for so long, I’ve never seen more ads than on computers with Norton, and they’re all for Norton.
I was waiting for the answer to be "User"
Well, a user is a security risk, not malware. They most often aren't malicious in their actions, often are just stupid and/or don't know better.
@@LucasTheOnion I don’t know man, my fiancé’s little sister seems like malware with how she destroys computers.😂
That’s called a “PEBKAC” error
“Problem exists between keyboard and chair”
The ol iD10T error
I mean Norton isn't persistant by itself.
So yeah it is the user lol
I used to get threatening messages from Norton like: " you're computer used to be safe while browsing the web... Maybe you should consider renewing your subscription"
Human... I remember you're web browsers
I swear if you dont, it loads a trojan onto your computer because that happened to me in the 00s
@@luckydragonwolf I'll be honest, I have no idea what happend for you to get here, this is actually some sort of error handling message.
With that being said....
Human.... I remember your hacks.
norton antivirus: the only antivirus with proven security measures used by REAL mafiosos!!!
@@crossbladegaming6651its from that one video about "sans" from "undertale" talking to the main character
think its titled "human i remember youre" or something
I was thinking he was going to say humans
Lol. I have always said that the worst virus my machine ever got was the one it came with: McAfee Antivirus. The constant pop-ups and deceptive tactics trying to get you to extend your subscription are the worst, and the software itself was a nightmare any time the virus definitions needed to be updated. Worst. Software. Ever.
Also applies to McAfee.
....just please stick to Windows Defender
I dont need anything else than windows defender? Serious question..
@@DjVanHeden yes, genuinely
@@DjVanHeden Unless you start navigating some dubious websites and click on every get rich quick add, or single ladies in your area...you're good with just Windows Def
@@DjVanHeden use your brain; don't download shit from non-secure websites, scan files if you do, if at any point a website forces a file download on you: no matter the file type, delete it ASAP and scan your PC with defender and maybe even download a AntiVirus for a single thorough scan and then remove it again.
The constant protection is not worth it, but using them to just check is actually a good practice on consumer level.
But yeah, Microsoft spends a LOT of money and human-hours on improving Windows Defender, it's genuinely good enough for anyone just slightly careful.
@@DjVanHeden if you are unsure then it probably means defender is enough. Windows defender is more than enough for 99% of users.
You know its bad when the ceo tells you he doesn't use it
I was literally hoping you would make this joke. I freaking love it
I legit once saw Norton flag a serious threat and need a reboot immediately, the only thing missing when the computer came back up was Norton. Even it knows.
lol?
On my malware laptop Norton and Mcafee want to erase both themselves and the other from existence but that is my malware laptop so they shall stay.
@@NerdStuffing "On my malware laptop-"
Sorry, your WHAT?
@@maxtube1952yeah, some smart people actually download shit to their lab rat called a malware laptop because laptops are cheap and you don’t actually use it in the intended manner, so nothing really happens
@@maxtube1952 when I was younger I got like a fourth-hand laptop and the second I got a better one(Like a week) I used the garbage to house malware on it to see what would happen.
The answer? It doesn't run very well.
My PC came with McAfee, and the trial expired 2 years ago. I deleted literally everything from McAfee, and yet somehow still get popups and notifications from them.
"It was said that you would DESTROY the Sith, not JOIN them!"
Check your running processes. It probably didn't uninstall some dumb service. Check your task schedule too. It might have added an entry to start said process to nag you. Check the registry too (but be careful).
Had to reformat my whole pc just to get rid of McAfee from my system.
McAfee was not the most trustworthy person, and his death by "suicide" alos opens a lot of questions.
Download an OEM copy of Windows (same as what you already have), burn it to USB. Reformat the drive and install the OEM version. No McAfee or any other bloatware.
Do you have a link for a guide on how to do so please? I am not really good at these kind of things
We had a PC that was from 2004 and we had it until about 2016 just to play old games on it. It wasn't connected to the internet after 2005. Every time we booted it up the first pop up was "Renew Norton Anti-virus 2005"
That came from the heart. One of my favorite things to do is go outside of the US with a junk machine and just open it up to everything, and then spend some time cleaning it all up. HP machines, especially laptops, are very good for this because they have a hidden drive that's locked away physically separated from the main hard drive that will completely reset all the installed OS and software. Because sometimes I'm just not as good as all the ware operators out there.
This is even better knowing that the blasted thing would sometimes quarentine and uninstall itself.
The only time it actually did its job and protected you from malware.
So someone torrented Norton, and it successfully detected itself as malware and deleted it.
Macafee did this to me once, but it took some system files with it, meaning I no longer had any ui on windows, I had to use cmd to open executables and file locations
@@emil3672 Oh gosh that sounds horrible.
@@emil3672 That's hilarious LMAO. I loved it when MIster McAfee himself would personally connect to my computer and steal my damn explorer.exe file too tbh
You know an antivirus works when it recognizes itself as a threat and uninstalls itself
On the other hand, a really good antivirus wouldn't be a threat. (I remember the stuff with antiviruses detecting each other, and this comment gives it some amusing context.)
Had Norton on my last laptop (keep in mind I was 13) and I never figured out how to uninstall. It was always still there, no matter what I did
For many years, I've been calling it "Noron Isavirus"
The worst malware is the malware we haven't detected yet
It's as easy as making a new encryption key. A FUD key is good for a week or so before the encryption gets compromised. Used to cost 15$ to get a fully undetectable encryption key from reputable specialists. Not sure the going rate these days.
What about mcfee?
That's the beauty of Norton AV! it's not detectable because everyone has been tricked into believing it's useful and is convinced that paying for it will make you safer. And it comes preinstalled!
Maybe the worst malware is the friends we made along the way.
"It's not about the journey, but the malware we made along the way "
- some thacked out hacker somewhere
My dad tried to be helpful one year and bought me a paid subscription to McAfee. He's not great with computers and i didn't have the heart to tell him so that thing sat on my desk for awhile before i threw it out.
I had to actively lock my dad out of my pc because he would just install mcaffee every time he used it. He still has it on his 14 year old desktop and has never seen it run correctly since before he installed it. And yes he never reformatted it.
That’s way too twisted to just throw it away lol I feel bad for not eating leftovers I take home from my parents but a gift like that there’s no way I’d just toss it that’s ruthless 😂
@@BIaccCat Same but at some point if the food is rotten. You have to throw it away, same with McAfee.
@BIaccCat Norton is not a gift.. more like a "I hope you get virtual aids package".
My dad recent got macafee because he got email saying his email was on dark web tried too tell him everyone's is just need better account security but he wouldn't losten
The reason why the default windows antivirus is good enough. You then be careful with what you download and you're golden
The laptop my parents got me for college had a free trial of mcafee on it, which I deliberately never set up or did anything with. After the free trial was over, they charged me to renew the service, which was iirc $120. To this day I don't know how they got my card info. I ended up bullying customer support into returning my money, and I think there was a class action lawsuit about this at some point.
That look of complete contentment with that answer was golden.
Once on my Windows 98, Norton removed all files it could not read, effectively and irreversibly destroying Windows along with a lot of data...
deserved
@@antares3030tf did this guy do to you?
My mom swears by Norton and it had always been an annoyance on the family computer. Then she expected me to get it on my own personal computer that I built. Yeah, no thanks.
i honked so hard i snorted LMAO
Jokes aside, ransomware is surely the worst, generally speaking. An infected machine can be blown away and reinstalled. Irreparable file encryption, including any other machines accessible on the network? That's truly malicious.
Yeah, but ransomware, in effect bricks your machine.
Then you have a choice, either i) pay up and HOPE you get the decryption key (hint, don't),
Or ii) erase the hard disk and reinstall. And restore your data.
None of this sneaky stuff. It's in your face.
@@johnathanh2660 paying might not even be an option
See, I would argue that the worst one is CIH. Like sure, the drive is repairable, but the damage it caused by destroying the BIOS would cause a lot of monetary damage.
Because ransomware can be battled with backups, CIH on the other hand, well good luck fixing your computer
@@smyalygames yeah but cih isn't really seen anymore. Ransomware is pervasive but like u said, can be countered by backups. The business i work for uses 3 different backups for each of our clients servers.
@@TenOfTwenty Yeah that's fair, I mostly said this as just "the worst one seen" (question from the short). But I would agree, that ransomware these days are the worst. I guess a close second would either have to be RATs or Botnets, as with those you may never even know that you've been infected with it
However, kind of a shame that a lot of malware is targeted at making money rather than malice/ego these days... Well, I only say that because they're not creative anymore (just to make it clear - I do not condone the creation of malware that target victims, just wish there was a bit more creativity lol)
that moment when you notice someone working in IT uses Norton... I was really having a moment of, "For real mate?!"
A now (thankfully) ex friend of mine once borrowed my laptop and infected it with McAfee. Someone else in the comments compared it to glitter and I couldn’t agree more. When I finally got the laptop back, the ex friend swore up and down that I was the one who installed all the McAfee shit that was suddenly popping up. She was the queen of gaslighting to make me feel like I was crazy. It took ages to finally get that shit off. It was awful. I’d finally get it to the point where it seemed to be gone and then 💥BOOM💥 another pop-up and suddenly everything was reinstalled as if I hadn’t just spent a ton of time removing it.
Refuses to elaborate further lmao
Because most of his viewer already know why, check the comments if you want the reason.
As soon as he said "it's really pervasive" I knew it was going to be Norton or McAfee! 😂😂
I knew instantly when hearing the question 😂
I was expecting either windows 11 or McAfee, but Norton is definitely a damn correct answer as well lmao
There's one of his shorts where he says you only really need windows 11? Who's right?
i dont quite get it? i dont like mcaffee and norton, but what do they do??
Have you actually used Windows 11?
@tab921 the rest of the comment section and it's replies will clue you in. I could tell you, but my explanation would pale in comparison.
@@dylannecros3636 i looked through atleast 30 comments lol
Ngl, I almost thought that guy was asking so he could possibly send some maleware to someone.
the worst malware, you install it willingly thinking it will help you.
it didn't and you uninstall it. but it stays. and with more problem mess it caused.
Norton. My parents use it and my dad thinks because it has a password manager it's worth it.
It literally spams them with ads to upgrade and eats cpu like crazy.
"My computer is booting slow"
Yeah it's Norton.
"I ran Norton's extra paid feature as a free trial and now my computer runs faster!"
Yeah because they literally designed it so you pay for that feature. The bad registry keys it's cleaning up are the keys it put in.
I also love how all the major antiviruses are under 1 company, CClearner, Avast, AVG, McAfee from what I know are all 1 single company
Pretty sure everything but mcaffee was its own thing before being bought and man is it obvious that they went down hill because of it
All these names give me ptsd
AVG and CCleaner are owned by Avast, but Avast and Avira (a german anti virus that was somewhat solid in the early 2010s) are owned by Gen Digital, which used to be Symantec, the company behind Norton.
McAfee is still its own thing, but it's 49% owned by Intel.
I use CCleaner is that bad?
@@lazylad76nothing wrong with CCleaner at all. It's not even an anti-virus it's just a declutter program that works fine and isn't nearly as invasive as actual anti-virus programs.
Most antiviruses are malware.
As my professor said
"YOU are first and last line of defense. And a disk wipe is the first and last option for removing a virus"
To this day, still dunno how i feel about, well, nuking an entire pc for a virus . But, the first part really is important to understand
Worst malware I've seen is definetly Windows.
People think this is a joke. As someone who's worked in security for years, he's 100% CORRECT!
Anyone in IT knows this is correct haha
I'm not on IT and know this is correct.
I'm not in IT and.. to be honest have a Norton account from my dad. As a tech leek, can anyone explain why it's this bad? I feel like an anti virus software for a dumdum like me is kinda needed...
Norton literally nested itself into a guy's computer I worked on recently. Had to get help from another tech to get the damn thing out.
@@ca_kay Back when inwaz doing consumer level IT there used to be a removal program, can't remember what it was called but itnwas specifically made for Nortan
Man, I remember when Norton was a go-to wayyyy back in the early days of the internet. Then it turned into something worse than what it was designed to protect you from. It got so badly designed that it ate more resources than Google Chrome on a bad day.
It happens with a large number of antivirus software. Start by being the darling free/cheap software, then get popular and start adding features that start taxing your PC, and the price just goes up and up.
IT WAS SAID YOU WOULD DESTROY THE SITH NOT JOIN THEM!
no no no It is Designed EXACTLY what it suppose to do....
That 1000 bits was like a mic drop
I love how this ends on just Norton Antivirus with no further explanation😂
Norton and McAfee, the Team Rocket of the computer world
You just can't get rid of them
prepare for trouble!
@@SidShakal And make it... Triple
Would you also like the McAfee Butt Plug software? The McAfee Butt Plug software is an innovative creat--
Dude thats an insult to team rocket
Using Norton Antivirus is like calling a well-used steel trash can medieval armor.
Steel might be a bit much, more like tin
@@deadboyo2773tin foil. 😂
@@deadboyo2773 Joke is that it works, but it stinks.
care to elaborate - disappears
I was waiting for this, was not let down. Thank you for the chuckle.
I was 100% sure he was gonna say "people".
I figured it'd be Windows 10/11 lmao
I almost thought it was gonna be mcafee tbh
You just reminded me of the time i had norton 360 and one day in the middle of playing minecraft with my friends norton 360 told me it had ran a scan without my permission and had found a virus. I checked what it was trying to delete... it was trying to delete itself... I wish this was a joke story but it's not.
Ok, what did you guys create in Minecraft so the antivirus felt like deleting itself? XD
Bro 😭 thats the funniest shit ive seen all week
@@fr12221 I didn't even build back then. :'( I just lived in holes in the walls of caves.
They’re becoming self aware
My mom installed norton on an old computer I gave her, it bricked the whole thing. One day I spent an afternoon trying to turn on the computer, (took about 3 hours to get to windows with task manager open) and as soon as I force-closed norton, computer worked fine.
THATS A CRITICAL HIT
I’ve never heard this guy say anything short but the best possible answer to every question.
He used to hack power plants for the federal government so he knows what he’s talking about
I'm from a time where Norton and McAfee were actually useful, I remember every now and again someone at school getting their hands on the latest pirated version of one of those and suddenly the whole class was using that.
Then Windows Defender came along, people still used dedicated antivirus for a while, but Windows Defender got better and around the same time browsers started to push for security and sandboxing even more.
Nowadays the best antivirus is common sense and Windows Defender always ON, and a scan with Malware Bites every now and again.
agreed
With Vista, I didn't even trust their OS! Why would I trust their protection software?
By the time Windows 7 rolled around, I heard Defender was pretty good, and stuck with that.
I *assume* better compatibility and quicker updates to remain compatible with an OS the same company puts out.
My dad still uses Norton. No matter what I show him that says otherwise, he feels more protected with that bloated pos malware.
For Indonesian, there's this local antivirus called Smadav, that is actually a helpful tool because most people aren't tech savvy and they're infecting each other from flash drives, and Smadav helps recovering people from that virus.
And then it became a useless app with green color that shows up every time you start your computer. And when I think people are smart enough already, I found people have it installed, damn.
Also Adblocks and overall better infrastructure of the internet add-ons. For example, even though JS is robust, it does not have nearly as much control to mess up with client's system as for example flash would have.
Can confirn, you cannot get rid of it.
Norton, McAfee, Kaspersky. All of them.
As someone who worked in tech support for several years the man's not wrong. Norton and McAfee were the absolute worst. Used to remote into customer machines and remove that garbage all the time.
Everytime I get a suspicious lag spike I just wait for the "Norton auto scan" to pop up
Just remove it. It's literal garbage.
If you're paying for it, save your money and stick to Windows Defender or something.
I don't allow my Norton to do that. I'm sure it would love to though.
You forgot about McCaffee too. Basically the same thing as Norton but when you don’t pay the subscription it purposefully slows your computer
So true. A lot of anti-virus software companies actually *create* unique viruses that initially only their own software knows how to get rid of, just to try and have an edge over the competition
Wow. I worked as a tech in the late 80s and much of the 90s. There was always this theory floating around in most discussions that Norton and McAfee actually caused many of the problems they purposed to "solve". Up until now, no one of trustworthy authority said this openly and plainly. Thanks Thor!
When I was in college(early 00s) Norton/McAffee where known jokes then... and Windows.
Three most common resource eating "viruses" was Norton, McAffee and Windows
Growing up, my parents had Norton on the pc we all shared. Around the time I started high school, they got a new second computer, and put McAfee on it. I know not what it’s like to live without them…
SO TRUE THOUGH, ONE TIME I TRIED DELETING IT AND AT THE WORST TIME MY OTHER ANTIVIRUS I WANTED TO REPLACE IT STARTED DOWNLOADING. it bricked my pc so bad that nothing worked, had to hard reset my pc because not even setting it back to before would work
Not my dad swearing by Norton for my whole life 😭
Chat: why Norton?
Thor: Norton...
The worst was the Sony-BMG rootkit they put on Audio-CDs, which opened your machines to infection from other malware by giving it ring0 access and also sent personal data to Sony-BMG. Their "fix" was even worse, and classified as malware in itself. Over 20 million audio cds recalled because of that.
Sony was in deep shit over that one, quite a few Attorneys General got a piece of that action. Including Greg Abbott before he dove off the deep end.
That should have ended Sony as a company. Just shows that people are morons.
When he said "Norton Antivirus", I understood.
I knew you were gonna say it and you didn't disappoint. You beautiful bastard.
My parents once wanted to force me to install this malware even though it already killed one of my laptops. I was luckily able to pay them so they wouldn't install the malware on my new pc.
...you had to PAY YOUR PARENTS, so that they wouldn't force you to install something on YOUR new pc?!
@@christerjakobsen8107 yeah they are horrible people beyond your imagination. everything they do is still legal though.
@@k.a.8725 jeez, sorry you have such shit parents
@@k.a.8725 I hope you'll be able to escape them soon
@@mralt5419 it was norton. Did you even watch the video? lol