How to Manually Tune Your DDR4 Memory For Ryzen

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  • @Hardwareunboxed
    @Hardwareunboxed  5 років тому +382

    For those wanting to see how tuned DDR4 memory performs with a 3rd gen Ryzen processor, you can find benchmark results here: ua-cam.com/video/iH3qq_mSxTM/v-deo.html
    Disclaimer: We take no responsibility for any damage you might do to your system when following this guide, tweak/overclock at your own risk. Also be careful with Thaiphoon Burner and only use it as shown in the video. You may have to disable anti-virus software before running it (it is not a virus) and it's recommended you close any monitoring software such as Corsair iCUE for example.

    • @hedimaster1
      @hedimaster1 5 років тому +9

      Could you do a RAM tweaking guide for Shintel too? I know it's less useful for my i5 8600k but it would be interesting.

    • @luisjalabert8366
      @luisjalabert8366 5 років тому

      I've used the Thaiphoon Burner and it doesn't give me any information, it says unknown on almost everything...
      I've got 32GB of corsair vengeance rgb pro 3200 cl16

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru 5 років тому

      That is probably single rank micron e-die, but google for exact info. That is pretty popular ram stick.

    • @Zez1nas
      @Zez1nas 5 років тому +2

      I gave up on my ryzen 2600 year ago, team group delta rgb 3000mhz - xmp or if i set 1.35v and 3000mhz manualy - same. Kept passing mem test but crashing in games (idk how) when i put it to 2733mhz works fine.

    • @aspyr5681
      @aspyr5681 5 років тому

      If I buy 3200mhz RAM, aren't they already at 3200mhz?

  • @sono1951
    @sono1951 4 роки тому +995

    [FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T CALCULATE XMP IN DRAM CALCULATOR] .Great tutorial but i was having a little trouble with the new 1.7.3 version and through looking through comments and other videos i found it. Thaiphoon burner > read > choose ram > report > scroll all the way down (bottom right)> show delays in nanoseconds > export > Complete HTML Report > DRAM calculator > Bottom Left Import XMP > choose file > done

  • @Chefty8it
    @Chefty8it 2 роки тому +79

    Pro Tip bomb with Memtest: only run tests 6 and 8. Those are the 2 tests that it will most likely fail on. If it passes test 6 and 8 then you can run the full test if you want, but it's almost not needed in most cases. This will save you a ton of time! Great video!

  • @BKMorpheus
    @BKMorpheus 5 років тому +1363

    Instead of reading the XMP in Dram Calculator, I suggest to export the complete HTML Report with latency in nanoseconds from Thaiphoon Burner and import that to Dram Calculator, as the XMP reading is often not correct.

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  5 років тому +257

      Good tip, thanks mate 👍

    • @lordzed83
      @lordzed83 5 років тому +20

      Good idea is to turn of software that is using Access to SPD like corsair link. When running Thaiphoon Burner

    • @lordzed83
      @lordzed83 5 років тому +67

      ​@@Hardwareunboxed Was about to say. That by clicking RXMP You are reading Preset V1 values for 93% quality B-die kit for better Binned B-Die kit. Version 2 is Preset for Lower quality B-Die kit. And to have Quality of Your's kit You need to click import XMP and get the HTML file from Thaiphoon Burner that You export in nanoseconds values as Full Report. Then You get to see what quality of modules Your's kit actualy have under Avanced tab. Generally thats best thing to do if You cant get Profile V1 to boot or pass Error Free.

    • @mashirohakase
      @mashirohakase 5 років тому +25

      now i know why nothing worked :D DRAM calc read my XMP wrongly, but.. i cannot import the report anyway :S tells me i havent selected "show delays in nanoseconds" but i cant see such option anywhere :/

    • @BKMorpheus
      @BKMorpheus 5 років тому +120

      @@mashirohakase After you read the profile in Thaiphoon Burner, klick on report and then scroll all the way down. There you can find "show delays in nanoseconds".

  • @androsforever500
    @androsforever500 4 роки тому +25

    I did this about a month ago and the benefits are huge! Everything was running pretty smooth with the occasional stutter here and there before, but now after using the FAST settings that I calculated I am getting 0 stutters. Really pushed my ryzen 5 3600 + ddr4 3200 ram to the limit with perfect stability.

  • @ZZstaff
    @ZZstaff 5 років тому +59

    When I used to test RAM using MemTest86 I started the process just before going to bed at night. No down time that way. Thank you for another great video!

    • @SNE4KZ
      @SNE4KZ 4 роки тому +10

      I started the test then he said should be 3 hours... and I got sad lol

  • @MaTtRoSiTy
    @MaTtRoSiTy 5 років тому +172

    Wow thank you dude! Just ordered a 3700x from PC Case Gear to arrive this week and I was literally just wondering how to go about this and this very timely vid pops up. Nice!

    • @curt8806
      @curt8806 5 років тому

      Eek. I’m sorry.

    • @MaTtRoSiTy
      @MaTtRoSiTy 5 років тому

      @@curt8806 What?

    • @guillermoz5765
      @guillermoz5765 5 років тому +1

      Do tell us how did it go for you if you tweak your RAM.

    • @MaTtRoSiTy
      @MaTtRoSiTy 5 років тому

      @@guillermoz5765 Sure. Hopefully it is arriving today some time though I don't think I will have the time to put it together this week, maybe...

    • @lhorbrum1818
      @lhorbrum1818 5 років тому

      @@MaTtRoSiTy You'll be happy with the CPU, i know i am :) Grats mate.

  • @YesterGearPCii
    @YesterGearPCii 5 років тому +4

    Just did this. Got my cheap 32gb Gskill 3600 kit from CAS 19 to CAS 16 - stable. Thanks so much for this video :) I had opened the calculator about 2 weeks ago, but didn't know how to find what type of die my memory used. This tutorial really helped.

  • @badejong
    @badejong 5 років тому +10

    Great video. The number of downloads of both programs will skyrocket starting today....

  • @ElTurbandito
    @ElTurbandito 4 роки тому +191

    "I'll include links in the description"
    >doesn't include the link

    • @abointedtoyblingofmats
      @abointedtoyblingofmats 4 роки тому +1

      who are you quoting

    • @abointedtoyblingofmats
      @abointedtoyblingofmats 4 роки тому +1

      @BlindBison you wouldn't know

    • @HalfdeadRider
      @HalfdeadRider 4 роки тому +6

      @@abointedtoyblingofmats Who do you think, Santa? 🤷‍♂️🤣

    • @Ghryst
      @Ghryst 4 роки тому

      i looked it up, found the software despite lack of links..
      newest version of software doesnt have a purple button. "import xmp" button (grey) opens a file search box, i assume its expecting me to have a copy of the xmp profile from the ram module saved to my desktop or something?

    • @abointedtoyblingofmats
      @abointedtoyblingofmats 4 роки тому

      @@Ghryst use this guide ua-cam.com/video/5uWX-i8Afvw/v-deo.html

  • @jubuttib
    @jubuttib 5 років тому +12

    Two quick notes that I don't think came up in the video, if you're on Hynix dies or having trouble launching Thaiphoon Burner:
    1) If your DRAM uses Hynix dies, check the PART NUMBER in the DRAM COMPONENTS section. For example my Corsair Vengeance LPX has the DIE part number as H5AN8G8NAFR-TFC, it's that "AFR" part before the dash that denotes my dies as Hynix AFR dies. Looking at the Die Density/Count one won't tell you the die type on Hynix.
    2) If you can't get Thaiphoon Burner to run, try turning you antivirus program off while running it. Avast kept me from starting Thaiphoon Burner, it just died silently without a window coming up at any point, but stopping the protection for 5 minutes allowed me to run the program successfully.

  • @alexc8287
    @alexc8287 4 роки тому +10

    You filled in, all the information I needed, to make sense in all the confusing information I already gathered and you did it, in a concise and clear manner. No other reviewer has ever impressed me that much and I know quite a few. Thank's a lot!

  • @guitarprogrock
    @guitarprogrock 5 років тому +81

    Good video, I've been using those programs to overclock my RAM for about a year and I've gotten my 3200mhz ram to run stable at 3600mhz. Good tutorial, but I might mention if your motherboard doesn't have a cmos reset button you might want to have a jumper on hand, or at least a flat head screwdriver to clear the cmos because it's easy to lock it up with too aggressive of timings.

    • @nathangamble125
      @nathangamble125 5 років тому +33

      A couple of weeks ago I used a spoon to clear my cmos.

    • @guitarprogrock
      @guitarprogrock 5 років тому +3

      @@nathangamble125 Awesome.

    • @killerbean5006
      @killerbean5006 5 років тому +2

      Mines locked :( and cmos reset doesn't seem to work

    • @killerbean5006
      @killerbean5006 5 років тому

      @@silverwerewolf975 Well so basicly I think amazon might have sent me 2133 memory instead of 2666mhz, I saw it said it 2133 MHz but thought it was a small mistake, so I just went further as if I had 2666mhz meaning I overclocked it alot. I'm fully sure I bought 2666 so I will contact amazon later today. Also Im currently waiting for Cmos battery, I put it out 5 min ago. Are you sure I have to wait 1 hour?

    • @DrittaFull
      @DrittaFull 5 років тому +19

      @@killerbean5006 To wait for an hour is BS, you just disconnect the power cord from psu and remove the cmos battery for about 30 sec and you are god to go

  • @angryman9333
    @angryman9333 4 роки тому +7

    thank you so much.
    i searched for teamgroup ram same as your's overclock info
    there was no info anywhere
    but after sometime my gpu died and NOW i find this.. but i'm still glad thanks

  • @azzido
    @azzido 4 роки тому +386

    Hi, we need a ryzen 5k update :)

    • @kostisap9350
      @kostisap9350 4 роки тому +24

      Its almost the same. Check gamer nexus video too.

    • @AllThatJazOfficial
      @AllThatJazOfficial 4 роки тому +6

      Agree. With a benchmark at the end to show any gains...why there was no benchmark is beyond me

    • @EpicGamer440
      @EpicGamer440 4 роки тому +8

      no we dont. zen 3 is impossible to get

    • @FRSpartan
      @FRSpartan 4 роки тому +21

      @@EpicGamer440 I have the 5900x :D in my PC rn

    • @curtisbme
      @curtisbme 4 роки тому +9

      @@FRSpartan And I have 5600x on the floor waiting to be installed in my nephew's first build as video cards are far harder to get.

  • @wrxbungle
    @wrxbungle 5 років тому +13

    about to do a Ryzen 3600x build and the "timing" of your tutorial couldn't be better, fantastic!

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn 5 років тому +20

    Been looking forward to a vid like this...I'm poop at overclocking ram...thanks dudes

  • @ryogaming4771
    @ryogaming4771 5 років тому +9

    Holy crap it works! Thanks a lot! Never touched the timing cuz I don't know what to do and seriously my nose is bleeding when I look in the bios for that lol

    • @vnzstz209
      @vnzstz209 4 роки тому

      Jean S Sullivan did you put the „T“ behind each timing youve chanched

  • @yeahthatsright33
    @yeahthatsright33 4 роки тому +9

    This was the best most straight forward ram overclocking video I've ever seen. THANK YOU!

  • @opbush5272
    @opbush5272 3 роки тому +8

    2 years later and this guide is still amazing! got my ballistixs 3200mhz cl 16 ram to cl 14 and huge improvements to sub timings

    • @swiftypines
      @swiftypines 2 роки тому

      9 months later than your comment but just curious, which model ballistix do you have?

  • @larrygall5831
    @larrygall5831 5 років тому +8

    Steve, you should recommend TM5.. that mem checker thing for quick tests between OC attempts. It's a heck of a lot easier to test with this in Windows than wait 3 hours every time. This stuff usually comes down to 90% DRAM Calc, 10% fiddling with it manually, so it's a lot easier to see if it boots, then give it a quick test with TM5. If it won't pass TM5 than it's useless to wait 3 hours for memtest. Use memtest only if it passes TM5.

  • @conyo985
    @conyo985 5 років тому +6

    I used the Ryzen DRAM calculator and it's an amazing piece of software. For memory OC noobs like me it's a very helpful tool. I OC'd my ram from 2400 to 3466! I Definitely feel the difference! Games are so smooth now.

    • @nindajuka8427
      @nindajuka8427 5 років тому +2

      Thats huge boost!

    • @TheHalfmanofOz
      @TheHalfmanofOz 5 років тому +1

      Hot damn.

    • @conyo985
      @conyo985 5 років тому +1

      @@nindajuka8427 Yup I really lucked out! Considering this is a Nanya A-die. It's a Kingston Hyperx Fury single sided 8 GB DDR4 2400. I initially had a hard time which die to choose in the calculator since Thaiphoon shows it's Nanya manufactured. A quick google search shows that Nanya is under Micron.

  • @choguss
    @choguss 5 років тому +6

    Wow, Steve. Great moves, keep it up. Proud of you!

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  5 років тому +5

      THIS IS ETHAN

    • @choguss
      @choguss 5 років тому +1

      @@Hardwareunboxed Just a ryzen fanboy :)

  • @theenhancer
    @theenhancer 5 років тому +415

    Last time I was this early mainstream CPUs were still quad-cores.

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 5 років тому +3

      So that would be before February/March 2017. :)
      Obviously quadcore still is mainstream, not everybody has had the chance to upgrade. I did finally from an i5-750 to a 3700X, there were some problems with the first BIOS'es from Gigabyte including consistent game-crashes but those seem to have been solved with the latest BIOS.

    • @mazedmarky
      @mazedmarky 5 років тому +3

      they're not dead unless you need high performance ACC (unity) on your behalf :P

    • @mazedmarky
      @mazedmarky 5 років тому +9

      on the other hand.. saw a guy buying a 6600k (thats the 4/4 core ones) for a 180 bucks.. I'm sure they were desperate but thats the only thing I would've let them get away with

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 5 років тому +1

      @@mazedmarky
      Or the ACO's, Far Cry 5, BF1 multiplayer on a large map, or BF5, Shadow of the Tomb Raider...
      More and more games require more than 4 cores. Tech Deals had someone Tweet at him that his 3900X got to 100% while playing ACO.
      Other than that with a quadcore on which HT is disabled you will notice a much bigger deviation in frame-render-time. The quadcore-CPU is outdated, nobody should buy a quadcore-CPU any more if he wants to play videogames with it, that is a fact. I am not saying that you should throw away a quacore-CPU if you have one, keep using it as long as you don't get annoyed by the higher frame-rendertimes for the slower rendered frames. The point is that nobody should have been buying a quadcore-CPU since late 2016/early 2017 with gaming in mind other than when you would exclusively play some MoBa's and e-sport games.
      That guy who recently paid $180 overspent severerly, possibly he did that to avoid a motherboard upgrade but I would take the motherboard upgrade and a 3600 any day over that. Then you even have the possibility to buy a 16C CPU of the next Ryzen-generation on the cheap 2-3 years from now.

    • @maincharacter2677
      @maincharacter2677 5 років тому +2

      @@peterjansen4826 What about 4c 8t please?

  • @Reykokuna
    @Reykokuna 4 роки тому

    Finally, thanks to this video I managed to set up my Viper patriot rgb 4133 with samsung b-die chip at 3600 CL14, at the beginning it was complex, but then I had the idea of printing the video data and those obtained with the ryzen calculator, so as to compare them and get feedback.
    Finally I feel satisfied, a very stable and more responsive system, happy to have written to the channel and to have put my like, it is one of the few, or rather, the only video done well on the whole UA-cam site!
    I can only say, God bless you brother!
    Thanks a lot, from now you have a new subscriber!

  • @paulodaffre6410
    @paulodaffre6410 5 років тому +16

    I love this channel, especially these how-to guides and games performance optimization guides. Keep up the good work

  • @Terminator0803
    @Terminator0803 5 років тому +78

    Micron E-Die is INSANE. Got my 3600MHz from CL18 Down to CL14 :O
    And everything is stable

    • @Mr_SamuelAdam
      @Mr_SamuelAdam 5 років тому

      Do you know how to do this, because of these applications he showed in the video? I'm new to OC ram and trying to figure this all out !

    • @LtdJorge
      @LtdJorge 5 років тому

      @@Mr_SamuelAdam which memories do you have?

    • @dcumbo
      @dcumbo 5 років тому +1

      Man, I have Trident Z RGB 3600 C17 - DRAM Calculator just says not supported :(.

    • @Fallen608
      @Fallen608 5 років тому +5

      Silicone lottery my friend. My Micron E-die 3200 CL18 won't handle even CL16 but it WILL do 3600 at factory timings without issue. Strange. At least pushing to 3600 gets my true latency down to 10ns.

    • @OdinHardware
      @OdinHardware 4 роки тому +1

      Yes right, micron e die is fantastic

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 5 років тому +6

    Thanks for this guide. While I have been overclocking CPU's and graphics cards for many years, overclocking memory and setting the timings has always been a bit of a mystery for me (too many settings to really wrap my head around). Thanks to this guide and the tools mentioned it seems like a far less daunting exercise than it has previously been.

  • @numbersix9477
    @numbersix9477 5 років тому +29

    What an amazing tutorial!!! It is both concise and informative. They simply don't get any better. Thanks!

  • @knoton3747
    @knoton3747 3 роки тому

    This video plus the comment section fixed my new setup. X570, ryzen 3600, and 32gb of corsair 3600 ram. Thanks

  • @Damask_Workshop
    @Damask_Workshop 5 років тому +2

    It remains to thank Steve (for the detailed video) and Yuri (for the DRAM Calculator). Recently I started assembling the system on Ryzen and would like to delve into memory overclocking, since I had no idea about this. Up to this day.
    By the way, I live in the same city as the author of Ryzen DRAM Calculator and am very glad that my compatriot's program is used by computer enthusiasts around the world.

    • @geogan2
      @geogan2 5 років тому

      Yes, but tell your compatriot that most of the program instructions are still in his own language it appears! do english translations ;-)

  • @ramzinho4985
    @ramzinho4985 5 років тому +5

    Another top notch content, awesome work Steve, thanks for the effort

  • @TheGwarGaru
    @TheGwarGaru 5 років тому +22

    More than satisfactory. Thank you, Steve!

  • @Larwood.
    @Larwood. 5 років тому +69

    One thing Steve didn't mention: DRAM Calculator doesn't really work for the majority of Micron E-Die kits, if you do use it and your system fails to boot or the mem test gives errors your first thing to try should be increasing tRCDRD by 2 or so, and if that doesn't work increase tRFC up to around 600-650 if it isn't already.

    • @jordanhart9708
      @jordanhart9708 5 років тому +7

      Typhoon actually won't tell me which Micron Die is being used.

    • @integraxnine745
      @integraxnine745 5 років тому +1

      The settings suggested by the tool yields no boot. Micron E-Die user here. I'll try what you suggested and update.

    • @6Twisted
      @6Twisted 5 років тому +1

      Larwood I’m getting intermittent errors with Hynix CJR on the safe preset as well. It seems stable for the most part but throws an error once or twice an hour. I’ve already tried the alt tRFC timing and increasing the dram voltage by 0.01v but the error frequency is the same so I think it’s one timing in particular. It’s a 3200-16 kit running at 3600-16 1.41v.

    • @eubikedude
      @eubikedude 5 років тому

      @@integraxnine745 Try starting with e.g. 2666 and working your way up step by step and see how this "training" goes.

    • @ChuckTownRC51
      @ChuckTownRC51 5 років тому

      Yep, won't boot for me.

  • @XavierXonora
    @XavierXonora 5 років тому

    Wow this worked really well, passed the test no worries with the recommended settings on fast. Literally did it in about 20 minutes while watching the video excluding the memtest at the end

  • @paveljelinek772
    @paveljelinek772 3 роки тому +1

    Thanx. Just tweaked my ryzen 5600x with 4000Mhz (2000mhz fclk gave me sound issues) so i used these utils to go down to 1900/3800.. very nice!!!

  • @SpenReyn
    @SpenReyn 5 років тому +15

    Thank you for this very helpful guide! I tweaked the RAM on my Ryzen 3 2200G rig and without a frequency increase (from 3600 MHz), I was able to increase my Fire Strike score from 2276 to 2922! Very nice jump and my games are running faster by 5-10%. Might give this a shot for a while then see if 3733 might be possible.

    • @josxd8598
      @josxd8598 3 роки тому

      hello i also have a 2200g, i have 2x xpg d41 3000mhz one is samsung B-die and the another is samsung C-die both are Rank 1 and their latency are the same 16-18-18, dram for ryzen suggets 14-17-17 for the B-die but the C-die doesn't appear in dram for ryzen, do you think i could only set the first 5 main timmings parameters? or could i increase frecuency on the x.m.p profile to 3200mhz without touching timmings?

  • @ajc-th5ei
    @ajc-th5ei 5 років тому +10

    Good video overall. Here are more tips regarding memory overclocking:
    If the DIMMs are picky and not liking the recommended timings, especially at faster memory speeds (more relevant to first and second gen Ryzen), then going to manual/debug instead of V1 is possible. You then enter the ns timings found after doing a read SPD in Thaiphoon Burner into the fields that were populated when you hit the R-XMP button. This is entering the values that the ram manufacturer has validated for XMP values, rather than the more general timings that 1usmus has found to work with the different memory types. It changes the timings slightly that are recommended and can help with pesky higher speeds OCs. In alternative, you can use V2 for lower quality memory DIMMs for the type of memory it is.
    For testing, there are three in windows mem tests that can help test for stability: 1) Testmem5 V0.12, 2) HCI Memtest (now integrated into the DRAM calculator), and 3) Karhu memtest. I personally use number 1 and 2 to test for errors on my memory. I start with TM5, which is relatively fast for checking for errors. If that can pass, I then run HCI memtest overnight to check for errors.
    Now, going into windows has the possibility that if the memory is throwing errors, it can corrupt system files. ALWAYS do a backup of your system before doing memory tuning. If Windows starts to act funny or corrupted, go to command prompt or powershell to run SFC /scannow for it to check for errors in system files and replace them. If you suspect the ram corrupted those files, obviously reset the ram to default before you do this, or the ram could further corrupt the system.
    There are even more tips and tricks, but just wanted to give a little bit more information.
    Also, sometimes what you set for voltages in the BIOS is not necessarily what is sent at times. This can be due to MB mfr compensation for LLC of components, etc. If having trouble with stability, you may want to open HWInfo in windows and check the voltage set versus what is delivered. For example, my Taichi X399 reads as 20mV higher for VDIMM voltage in HWInfo versus what is set in the BIOS. When trying to achieve faster speeds, especially on first gen Ryzen/Threadripper, having too much voltage may be the issue on Vsoc or VDIMM. So, unless you have a digital multimeter, HWInfo is a good way to do a sanity check and adjust your voltages up or down accordingly. I use two 2x8GB Trident Z 4133 19-21-21 kits from 2015/16 (bought them when I had my Skylake 6700K). So the timings and voltages recommended in the timing calculator did not work perfectly for me on my 1950X when getting 3466 and 3600 stable (I ran 3600 CL14-17-17 until a bios update no longer allowed that to run stable on my system, at which time I went to 3466 CL14 15 15). If I gave the SoC or the VDIMM too much voltage, it would increase my errors in memory testing rather than decreasing them (same with too little voltage). It was a balancing act.
    Also, the creator of the DRAM calculator has a tuning guide on TechPowerUp which is worth a read for trying to fine tune the ram. When using faster speeds on ram overclocking, the calculator becomes more of a guide and you will need to fine tune your sticks for what they are capable of.
    Either way, thank you for the video!!!
    Edit: Also seconding BKMorpheus mentioning exporting the HTML report with Thaiphoon Burner then importing that. For awhile, the import was not available. Hence telling how to enter those values manually.

    • @haseofans
      @haseofans 5 років тому

      ajc9988 so its fine to follow this video guide or any recommended link guide in video since im not a pro and really dont understand about this. I buy trident 8x2 with 3200mhz but only get 2133mhz

    • @ajc-th5ei
      @ajc-th5ei 5 років тому

      @@haseofans haseofans I would say yes, generally. It will not help with certain cases where more fine tuning and experience in overclocking are needed. The links to the software, from a cursory look, seem to link to the proper pages for distribution of the software.
      If you run into issues, there is the community page on overclock.net for the dram calc.

  • @YAAMW
    @YAAMW 3 роки тому +4

    R-XMP= Read XMP was all I needed. Sadly, the latest version of the DRAM calculator requires the XMP values to be imported into it. So, After you read the SPD using Thaiphoon burner, you'll need to click the report button, scroll down and click "Show Delays in nano seconds", Save the complete report as HTML file, and then import it into the Ryzen Calculator. I'm only doing this because the default XMP profile for my RAM is unstable and gives me random crashes
    BTW, thank you for making this video. It was helpful and reassuring that I won't damage my RAM or CPU by doing this.

  • @lordgrape5015
    @lordgrape5015 5 років тому

    I just ordered trident z rgb ram today for my first pc build. This vid is hella well timed for me because I'm brand new to overclocking

  • @Ninjaman-do5uk
    @Ninjaman-do5uk 4 роки тому +2

    Best guide I've seen yet. Thank you! I will do this ASAP.

  • @edmundsze1
    @edmundsze1 5 років тому +6

    This was the exact video I was looking for !!! Thank you so much I just OC'ed my RAM from CL16 to CL14!

  • @Mr.Deeds.
    @Mr.Deeds. 5 років тому +7

    worked like a charm! thank you so much! Now DDR4 3200 at CL14 ;) SWEEETTTTTTT

    • @FunTimeGhz
      @FunTimeGhz 5 років тому

      Was it 3000 at 14 before?

  • @Pavideus
    @Pavideus 5 років тому

    Wow. Great video. Saved for later. Putting together a Zen 2 build later this month and been thinking about dabbling in RAM timings for the first time.

  • @Chakotay2222
    @Chakotay2222 5 років тому

    I had problems with 16GB Ballistix Elite DDR4 3600 MHz on ryzen 3900x, xmp didnt work. So had to run it at 3500 mhz. This tutorial worked is running on 3600 mhz with 16-17-19-36-56 this are timings taken from cpu-z. i used safe on ddr4 calculator. So ye works better than advertised, Thx Hardware Unboxed you get my sub

  • @MrRaivokasMagma
    @MrRaivokasMagma 5 років тому +44

    Instructions unclear, RAM sticks started flying on their own.

  • @rexviper532
    @rexviper532 4 роки тому +9

    omg are you serious? wow this is so great! do more of these kinds of tutorials. thanks so much

  • @ekiM2K
    @ekiM2K 5 років тому +6

    What perfect timing, I was literally just researching this and was a bit confused.

    • @tdhbb
      @tdhbb 4 роки тому

      Perfect.......timing?????? I see what you did there.

  • @InappropriateBarTalk
    @InappropriateBarTalk 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for this! I've been researching this for the last month for my new Ryzen build, but I could find nothing recent!

  • @planexshifter
    @planexshifter 4 роки тому

    Thank you, thank you, thank you mate!
    Simple, to the point and ignores all extraneous information.
    10/10 instructional video

    • @planexshifter
      @planexshifter 4 роки тому +1

      Also has links for the programs used!
      You know how rare that is!?!?

  • @GraphicallyChallenged
    @GraphicallyChallenged 5 років тому +32

    I was able to tweak my timings WAY down. It was quite the hassle.

    • @GraphicallyChallenged
      @GraphicallyChallenged 5 років тому

      @John Doe In the process yes. Not since. I still need to run memtest.

    • @slysithejuicegy
      @slysithejuicegy 5 років тому +4

      I went through this yesterday. One value per reboot for me. My memory wasn't quite as good as the calculator suggested. It only took me 2 CMOS resets.
      Still impressive that I can get my rubbish hynix mfr dies (Corsair 3200 c16) up to 3333 c15. I can definitely feel the extra snappiness in the computer.

    • @sbcbronzeadventures9158
      @sbcbronzeadventures9158 5 років тому

      @@slysithejuicegy wouldnt it be smarter on ryzen to go 14cl 3200. Thats what i did with my hynix. As i know ryzen dont really like odd cl numbers

    • @GraphicallyChallenged
      @GraphicallyChallenged 5 років тому

      @@sbcbronzeadventures9158 where is it that Ryzen doesn't like odd numbers?

    • @slysithejuicegy
      @slysithejuicegy 5 років тому

      @@sbcbronzeadventures9158 I'm not sure, but I don't think that matters with gen 2 Ryzen. Being that I can match the infinity fabric with the ram speed.
      Was trying for 3400 but wouldn't boot. Might try again with more voltage. Only using 1.38 for now.

  • @williamtael8379
    @williamtael8379 4 роки тому +10

    IMPORTANT: a wrong tRFC timing can make any OC you do on your RAM unstable! Because recent versions of the DRAM Calculator won't show tRFC 2 and 4, only tRFC and tRFC(Alt).
    If your motherboard has tRFC 2 and 4, you have to set those timings using an older version of the DRAM Calculator (v1.41) that shows up those timings.

    • @cellanjones28
      @cellanjones28 4 роки тому

      it doesn't work for 3rd gen

    • @memedbengul4350
      @memedbengul4350 11 місяців тому +1

      i found about and applied the rule: trfc2=trfc1/1.346 ; trfc4=trfc2/1.625

    • @williamtael8379
      @williamtael8379 11 місяців тому

      @@memedbengul4350
      Nice! What those numbers mean?

    • @memedbengul4350
      @memedbengul4350 11 місяців тому +1

      @@williamtael8379 I have no idea, but I'm assuming some sort of mathematical computing/electronics relationship. They seem to work though. One extreme, and supposedly stable OC example I checked indeed has the same ratios. My present OC is using this rule (after applying DRAM Calc's trfc advice) and is stable. I don't know how precise the settings have to be though, haven't tried it myself.

    • @williamtael8379
      @williamtael8379 11 місяців тому

      @@memedbengul4350
      I wonder if those numbers mean voltage...
      Maybe. I don't know. Anyway, I'll test.

  • @AlfredEiji
    @AlfredEiji 5 років тому +3

    I was so excited to try this as I finally got some free time. Imagine my woe though when I learned I had Hynix BJR, so it's impossible to use DRAM calculator for it.

    • @t.n.9508
      @t.n.9508 4 роки тому

      What do u mean? Hynix rams wont work with this?? Bc i think i have hynix... 😕

    • @AlfredEiji
      @AlfredEiji 4 роки тому

      T. N. There are different types of Hynix RAM. When you look at the make of the RAM, you will find out what kind it is. BJR is a version of Hynix, but DRAM calculator isn’t optimized for it.

    • @t.n.9508
      @t.n.9508 4 роки тому +1

      @@AlfredEiji ok i jus checked mine, it says hynix cjr so im guessin im good lol.

    • @Muslimman570
      @Muslimman570 4 роки тому

      How to know what b die you have?

    • @SSaiRuthvizHyderabad
      @SSaiRuthvizHyderabad 4 роки тому

      @@AlfredEiji Hey I'm sort of lost here how do I check "make" of my RAM? I can only see that the manufacturer is Hynix ....Asking for a friend

  • @gabrielmansano
    @gabrielmansano 4 роки тому

    I bought a pair of Patriot's Viper Steel 3000Mhz 8GB modules last week. I was struggling to make the system boot with the 3000Mhz CL16 factory D.O.C.P Profile, some times it would boot other it wouldn't but after watching this I could get 3000Mhz but with CL14 and it booted straight away, now I'm going to run some tests to see if it is stable or not.
    I'm glad I found this video because otherwise I would still be running this kit with the normal 2400Mhz profile, thanks a lot.

  • @MrSteveESQ
    @MrSteveESQ 4 роки тому

    How did I miss this video first time around?! Awesome guide!

  • @F1neW1ne
    @F1neW1ne 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for this! I followed along on my Corsair LPX Vengeance 3200 CL16 to tune it with the FAST preset in the calculator and it was ok but I did have to increase voltage to 1.4 on my setup to pass memtest all the way. (R5 3600 + MSI Gaming Pro Carbon X470). At 1.37 memtest would get errors. 1.4 It passes. Also Memtest64 run in Windows would reboot the system after several minutes unless I set to 1.4v.

    • @beemrmem3
      @beemrmem3 4 роки тому

      Charles Earl I have the same RAM kit. Is there a downside to running 1.4v. Wonder if I should just start there

    • @F1neW1ne
      @F1neW1ne 4 роки тому +1

      @@beemrmem3 Honestly I ended up going back to Standard XPM Profile for 3200 MHz. Only because from time to time the odd game would crash (as they sometimes do) and I wanted to make sure it was not RAM (Probably was not). But it still bugged me from time to time. It was still fun to experiment tho! And 3200 MHz CAS16 is still pretty good anyway.

  • @AL12rs
    @AL12rs 5 років тому +5

    Thank you very much for this guide, perfectly executed!

  • @MysteryNotes
    @MysteryNotes 5 років тому +6

    Holy shit, I was just thinking of learning how to oc my memory this morning. Are you readin my mind?

  • @narsayeee1578
    @narsayeee1578 4 роки тому

    Simple tutorial and explanation is understatement ! Giving you a sub mate

  • @JonathanDeane
    @JonathanDeane 5 років тому

    You say you don't usually do "How to" video's but this one was perfect!!! 11 out of 10 video!!! Thank you!!!!

  • @pbatacan
    @pbatacan 5 років тому +12

    mine is F die: Die Density / Count
    4 Gb F-die (Z10B / 19 nm) / 1 die
    there is no option for F die in the latest version of DRAM Calculator. What should I select?

  • @ingeborgsvensson4896
    @ingeborgsvensson4896 5 років тому +4

    @Hardware Unboxed I noticed you said 1.36 volt but you entered 1.37V. But thanks for the video!

    • @ThatFatGuy6969
      @ThatFatGuy6969 5 років тому +2

      I noticed this too. Later in the video he said that if you encounter any errors in the test to try and up the voltage a bit. The safe zone is up to 1.45v. I assume it's just for peace of mind. If the calculator says 1.36, 1.37 cant hurt.

    • @mYuSERnAME11100
      @mYuSERnAME11100 5 років тому

      the calculator said 1.365 recommended but you cant enter that so he rounded it up

  • @im160bpmplus
    @im160bpmplus 5 років тому +124

    I googled Yuri and came up with an old KGB guy called Yuri Bezmenov, the interview was really eye opening....

    • @The_Noticer.
      @The_Noticer. 5 років тому +22

      Absolutely S U B V E R S I V E

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 5 років тому +16

      200%
      _D E M O R A L I Z E D_

    • @FeuerblutRM
      @FeuerblutRM 5 років тому +11

      Glad you didn't do a picture search since Yuri is basically the genre name for Japanese lesbian hentai 😁😁😁

    • @dawnoftruth1
      @dawnoftruth1 5 років тому +3

      thanks, I have something interesting to watch today

    • @arturk.320
      @arturk.320 5 років тому +1

      If it's the one I'm thinking of it's just shitty propaganda video

  • @LeoN-cu4dt
    @LeoN-cu4dt 4 роки тому

    Very solid and detailed video! Liked and subscribed.

  • @dangabbay1
    @dangabbay1 4 роки тому +1

    Great guide, looking forward to see your Zen3 memory testings

  • @2003dipfun
    @2003dipfun 5 років тому +30

    This is what Yuri said while tuning his RAM "Empty your mind, and submit to my will. The less you know, the better off you will be. I am Yuri." 😎

  • @RawrILYazn
    @RawrILYazn 2 роки тому +3

    Is there an updated dram calculator for 5000 series yet?

  • @DrSpychology
    @DrSpychology 5 років тому +69

    Looks like you're the only one who actually has a B450 MAX board, still waiting on them to arrive

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  5 років тому +23

      They landed in Australia early, I bought mine over a week ago.

    • @TheAssassin642
      @TheAssassin642 5 років тому +5

      They're out in the UK too. Maybe all of Europe

    • @DrSpychology
      @DrSpychology 5 років тому

      @@TheAssassin642 What stores? I've been checking scan uk, alternate and caseking

    • @TheAssassin642
      @TheAssassin642 5 років тому +1

      @@DrSpychology cclonline did have them, but it seems like everyone is out of stock. They'll have more at the end of the month.
      www.cclonline.com/product/291233/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/Motherboards/MSI-B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX-AMD-Socket-AM4-B450-Chipset-ATX-Motherboard/MBD2680/
      Fuck, I was hoping to get it before then.

    • @Chris-gc9ge
      @Chris-gc9ge 5 років тому

      Got it half a week ago in Germany

  • @dreadrechsler8278
    @dreadrechsler8278 5 років тому +1

    Cool! It worked a miracle! I watched the video and followed your advice (everything except running Taifun as I knew the memory DRAM type I had already). Even to the point of using the FAST calculated settings, which I was REALLY skeptical would work. But it did! and perfectly too! I used the built-in Memory test part of the Benchmark tab in the DRAMCalculator though, ran it out to over twice through each block of memory (something like 3400% total) and it passed perfectly so I feel confident it's good.
    I'm very pleased: end result is I now have my FlareX 3200, CL14 memory at 3600, CL14, fast timings, FCLK 1800 on a 3700X processor, B450M Mortar. All without a ton of reboots and trials with crashes and CMOS resets. Very cool! thanks so much for that timely bit of how too!

  • @alexandruhoriasicoe6714
    @alexandruhoriasicoe6714 5 років тому

    Thanks a lot. Out of the box my Patriot viper steel series 3733mhz Cl17 only ran stable at 2133mhz. Its XMP profile was useless. After following this guide I managed to clock it at 3733mhz, Cl16 😍 Only the safe preset works for me. Fast preset boots but has unstable memory (fails memtest, exits apps). But I'm happy with that anyway.

  • @rbtoca
    @rbtoca 5 років тому +3

    You could do more teaching guides Steve, very easy to learn from this!
    Good work!

  • @Amber_Oakheart
    @Amber_Oakheart 5 років тому +6

    Ive been playing around with my memory the last day and a bit on my new system, I have a stable (so far) 3600 cl14 profile, gonna test some higher settings now :D

  • @noobminer7970
    @noobminer7970 2 роки тому +7

    There is no R-XMP on the newer version

    • @DanielS-zq2rr
      @DanielS-zq2rr Рік тому

      same. no idea what to do... dram calculator is probably useless anyway

  • @Uachtar
    @Uachtar 5 років тому

    Thanks for this very clear guide. i am saving it ! just upgraded to Ryzen 3600 with DDR4 3600 CAS 18 running at that speed. For now with a RX 580, it's enough but i will definitivelly try when i will be CPU bound to get few fps.

  • @ExodeusIS
    @ExodeusIS 5 років тому

    Great guide i'm soon doing a new Ryzen build and this was something I was not so versed in.

  • @shurikencookies
    @shurikencookies 5 років тому +6

    Is there any other way to read the SPD?
    Thaiphoon isn't working at all.

    • @staticmaneuver
      @staticmaneuver 5 років тому

      Run it exempt from windows defender and run it in admin

  • @jahejsa
    @jahejsa 5 років тому +10

    Holy shit you really did it - i salute!

  • @justint.6618
    @justint.6618 4 роки тому +23

    Thank you so much. just saved my PC from my mediocre Overclocking skills!

    • @ownyounext
      @ownyounext 4 роки тому +2

      @Billy Barter No, thats Justin Y

  • @jonnowood8382
    @jonnowood8382 4 роки тому

    Great guide. I especially like how you explicitly state the version's of software you are using so people watching later can account for differences.

  • @Yaroshi86
    @Yaroshi86 5 років тому

    Awesome good job. Putting together a new build Tonite. Can't wait to see what I get.

  • @dingreen91
    @dingreen91 4 роки тому +5

    i need help, R-XMP doesn't show in the DRAM Calculator app.

  • @wabcdbzxcv5874
    @wabcdbzxcv5874 5 років тому +3

    So... since this thread is perfect for that --- I wanted to share my early tuning results of the Threadripper 3960X and 128GB RAM done by me using Thaiphoon Burner and Ryzen DRAM Calc 1.6.0.2.
    Hardware : CPU 3960X, Stock (for now), AIO Cooled (Liqtech 280, swapped liquid), 64GB kit of 4x16GB Ripjaws V 3200 CL14 (B-Die, DS), 2 x 32GB kits (2x16GB) of Crucial Ballistix 3000 (Hynix E, DS), Mobo: Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Extreme with F3b UEFI (AGESA 1.0.0.2). Crucial Ballistix is a secret tip for anyone not scared to OC the RAM. According to different utilities it can go up to 4150 with correctly upped voltage.
    So... managed to get the TRX40 Platform stable with fully populated banks (8x DS 16GB RAM Modules) running at 3600 with CL of a mix between 16 and 18 :-)
    i.ibb.co/jw7DQV3/3600.jpg
    i.ibb.co/3FG1g3T/36002.jpg
    For that - since the Calculator doesn't officially support TRX40 yet - used the Processor : 2970WX 2990WX, MoBo : X399, DIMM Modules 4, Freq 3600 + safe values (will tune this later even further).
    This was my baseline... not all the values recommended were applied, but 100% of the values from the middle of the Main page (except tRFC2 tRFC4 - left on Auto). RAM 1.39 V
    I just LOVE the new TR3xxx Platform !
    Oh, and you might want to use TestMem5 with the custom profile v3 created by 1usmus himself for some serious mem-stability testing!
    www.overclock.net/forum/27937684-post4314.html

  • @TheHalfmanofOz
    @TheHalfmanofOz 5 років тому +7

    Success. Thanks for the tutorial.

  • @silvereagle6985
    @silvereagle6985 5 років тому

    Hey, thanks for this. Just popped into my feed. Having a few ram issues and you answered a bunch of my questions!

  • @jaymackee9636
    @jaymackee9636 4 роки тому

    Such a great video. I had no choice but to like and follow. Great job!

  • @ginjopowder
    @ginjopowder 5 років тому +5

    My memory is C die . not listed in DRAM Calc ? how do i proceed

    • @cheezelz9915
      @cheezelz9915 5 років тому

      Yep mine is M-die, not listed either

    • @trojantvph2032
      @trojantvph2032 5 років тому

      just don't

    • @yanik3825
      @yanik3825 5 років тому +2

      Omsui Skies If you have Hynix C-die, like myself, then you need to select (Hynix CJR). And for those who have M-die need to select (Hynix MFR)

  • @patrickh92able
    @patrickh92able 4 роки тому +14

    I dont see the R-XMP button

    • @Akanohi
      @Akanohi 4 роки тому +1

      There no xmp in your ram,

    • @cellanjones28
      @cellanjones28 4 роки тому

      www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/dram-calculator-for-ryzen-1-7-1-%E2%80%93-what-is-new,1.html

    • @Its_Me_Butters
      @Its_Me_Butters 4 роки тому +1

      @@cellanjones28 thank you stranger

    • @grlmgor
      @grlmgor 4 роки тому

      It could be called *DOCP*

    • @tubelesstrippin
      @tubelesstrippin 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Akanohifalse lol

  • @QualityScreenTime
    @QualityScreenTime 5 років тому +4

    I have a C-Die. I feel like that will make my timings different but there are no options on the calculator for C-Die.

    • @Geektak
      @Geektak 5 років тому +1

      Hynix CJR

    • @rizkydzilarsyputra7996
      @rizkydzilarsyputra7996 5 років тому +1

      Hynix C-Die = Hynix CJR

    • @P22_Do0C
      @P22_Do0C 4 роки тому

      @@rizkydzilarsyputra7996 Kingston HyperX C-Die.. So?
      is this same?

  • @timreddington9386
    @timreddington9386 5 років тому

    Because of this guide I ended up with my Gskill Ripjaws V at 3600MHz RAM Cas 14 1.45v on a Crosshair Hero VII/4.2GHz all core 2700x. Thanks guys!

  • @Lithonion1
    @Lithonion1 5 років тому

    Great tutorial!!!! I had watched other videos and non pointed it out so clearly as yours. Now I just need a gen 3 CPU so I can push the ram further.

  • @Stalast.
    @Stalast. 5 років тому +130

    Prepare yourself for the flood of tech support questions of people unable to boot their PCs after trying this lmao

    • @Rainyumz
      @Rainyumz 5 років тому +8

      Yeah mine too.. no dp signal. Monitor not receiving the signal.

    • @Stalast.
      @Stalast. 5 років тому +7

      @@Rainyumz Reset your CMOS, look at manual on how to do it

    • @Rainyumz
      @Rainyumz 5 років тому +3

      @@Stalast. why can't i oc my ram?

    • @Rainyumz
      @Rainyumz 5 років тому +12

      @@Stalast. my 3200 mhz gskill trident z is running at around 2100 mhz wtf

    • @Stalast.
      @Stalast. 5 років тому +56

      @@Rainyumz That's the default speed of RAM before applying XMP. OMG if you don't know even the basics about RAM, you shouldn't bother with this guide.

  • @tomgillotti
    @tomgillotti 4 роки тому +6

    R-XMP button is missing in latest version...

    • @emmata98
      @emmata98 4 роки тому

      jep. Just do the prefered Typhoon-variant of getting the XMP data

    • @Karudzik
      @Karudzik 4 роки тому +1

      download full report with nanoseconds from typhoon and import into calculator

  • @dcphillips1991
    @dcphillips1991 5 років тому +34

    I've never gotten this to work for my memory with any of the settings, so it's definitely not a guarantee.

  • @Sarastro18
    @Sarastro18 5 років тому

    THANK YOU!!! I was already going crazy with too complicated guides....

  • @sayntfuu
    @sayntfuu 4 роки тому

    Hey thanks for this. Got me totally situated with my new 3600. Cheers!

  • @pawesurdyk3243
    @pawesurdyk3243 4 роки тому +3

    no R-XMP button in my version, can I still calculate?

    • @ThePVPsheep
      @ThePVPsheep 4 роки тому

      same here

    • @pawesurdyk3243
      @pawesurdyk3243 4 роки тому

      @@ThePVPsheep see post below from 'So No?'

    • @ThePVPsheep
      @ThePVPsheep 4 роки тому +2

      @@pawesurdyk3243 check this post out on reddit "PSA: Use Thaiphoon to export/import your XMP profile into DRAM Calculator rather than clicking R-XMP button."

  • @Scott.Farkus
    @Scott.Farkus 5 років тому +2

    Just watching this made my system faster.

  • @BadRusMan
    @BadRusMan 5 років тому +32

    Ну, Юра, твой калькулятор наконец "доехал" до Стива.

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  5 років тому +9

      We used it a year ago ;)

    • @BadRusMan
      @BadRusMan 5 років тому +2

      @@Hardwareunboxed that's why it is in quotes ;)

    • @Xevios
      @Xevios 5 років тому +4

      ОНИ ГОВОРЯТ НА НАШЕМ!

  • @S197Bryan
    @S197Bryan 4 роки тому

    This video is great! I have been having trouble over clocking. Thank you

  • @joshdrewpic
    @joshdrewpic 5 років тому

    Was just looking for this yesterday. Thank for the effort and explanation!! Subbed. Excellent work.