I Love playing around with old PC hardware and am4 is looking like it's going to be the new goat of CPU generations. I've been playing around with amd system's since the AM2 Athlon x2 era, and for what it's worth each generation before and after until Ryzen 3k has lagged behind Intel. When I had been using my athlon x2 4200+ it handily outperformed the comparative Intel pentiums. Moving forward I have a soft spot for the try hard FX am3+ system's because of their versatility over comparable Intel early i series CPU. While they were not as good at running in windows 10 as well as the the 2nd Gen I series at first, at this time the FX 6300 and 8350 do work better than 2nd Gen i series CPU now. The first gen am3 FX 6100, 8100's run on par between the 2nd and 3rd Gen i series CPU, the 6300, 8350 am3+ goes toe to toe, blow for blow with 4th Gen i series CPU, beating and getting beat based on what game is being played. What am3+ does better than Intel IMO is backwards compatibility. The FX 8350 is incredible at running multiple os boots for XP64, windows 7 and windows 10 on the same hardware. The last Intel CPU that I had running multiple boot os was the core two quad qx 6700 with XP and windows 7. I've read and seen first and second i series CPU running multiple boot for XP64 and windows 7 as well as windows 10 albeit with more complications than I've seen out of multiple boot FX builds when it came to windows 10. If 3d v cache becomes the new standard for gaming CPU I think am4 will hold goat status longer than any platform that came before it. IMO
Nah, it's actually not wayyy higher. I just sold off 8 AM4 5000 cpu's, x570 boards and 32gb ram kits in the last 8 months. Investing in AM4 5700X3D is a ok upgrade only for those that dare not touch their hardware. AM5 is basically the same price if you shop smart. You can sell your AM4 parts and get a budget B650, 32gb premium 6000 CL30 kit and a 7500F/7600/7600X for maybe $50-100 tops out of pocket. About the same out of pocket upgrading to a 5700X3D and selling a cpu.
@45eno youre considering US prices because, well, you live there. but in the rest of the world AM5 is even more overpriced, so just popping a 700x3d is way cheaper
@@watchmejumpstart24 Nah. 5700X3D is still overpriced, compared to 7500f build. I checked the prices in Europe and Asia and came to conclusion that in these regions it is usually cheaper to switch to AM5 rather than upgrade to 5700X3D. P. S. I have no idea why people are so obsessed with Zen 3 3D chips. The value is just not there. 🤔
@@stangamer1151 i wanted to chip my part in, i live in argentina, (yes, the economical hellhole) I just upgraded from R5 3400G to the 5700X3D, when i did the full research, it was between 2 and 3 times more expensive to get on AM5, it is the same on most of south america, tech is simply expensive, and my guess is that the same would be true for most third would countries.
I was lucky enough to obtain a 5600X3D, and it's quite the little beast. Paired it with a 4070 Super that was acquired open box for less than the price of a vanilla 4070, and I'm hardly left wanting for more at 1440p.
try setting your desktop to DSRDL 2.25x , doesn't cost much performance , but man , the sharpness , it's a great upgrade for free that 4070 will just laugh at the resolution , no worries have the 4070ti super oc , with a 8700K 5Ghz , hogwarts hogsmeade is the town to try out fps numbers , by just turning the camera completely stable @ 120fps DLAA + frame gen of course , only a 8700K , lol mad max 240fps 4K stable , no frame gen , but i could get 480 fps if i put on frame gen with an extra program i have and 240 in Hogwarts , tried it , but isn't stable yet and that's only 2x frame gen , this program now has 4x frame gen , need a good processor though to get frames at a stable level , i think 120 and 240 is good for now
I love this chip to bits. The 5700X3D can be found for 135-ish USD on AExp, much less than the 5800X3D, yet only a minor difference in performance. Paired it with a 4070, I won’t be touching this system for years. Cheers on the vid, Iceberg 🎉
@@usmanafridi3062 Wait for a sale with coupons from Comet Crash on AE. I got one for $180 CAD (133 USD), arrived in a week. They usually have sales at the start of each month.
My main system was a 7800x3d + 7900xtx. Over at my desk. I am a cripple so I sit in my wheelchair. Haven't been feeling well and doctors legitimately dont care to help me find out why I dont feel good. So i've been in bed. So i bought a 5700x3d to go in my old x570 meg ace board that used to house a 3950x with 32gb ddr4 3600 cl14 ram. And with my old 6900xt, i bought a "bed pc" system. and its a mad lad. running a 1440p 240hz OLED (asus model) but run it in 120hz mode with black frame insertion. and yeah, its amazing in gaming. I saved a lot of money using old ram, old motherboard, old graphics card. So the 5700x3d was the smarter buy over buying cpu+motherboard+ram to make a second am5 system.
I have a garage PC that slowly gets better parts as they come up. Found a used 5700X3D for $140 and it replaced the 5700X that I sold for $120. I have 3x 7800X3D and all have older 6950XT,6900XT,6800XT and the CPU is still benefiting me as I don't care about ULTRA detail and prefer 240fps fixed. I just lower in game settings till I hit an acceptable FPS range. Sounds like a solid secondary PC you built there.
@@45eno Bro what are you doing with so many similar PC's, are you running LAN parties in your garage or something? I have lots of PC's also, but I wait a couple of generations before I decide to build another. I don't get why one would have use for many similar ones, so I am curious about your use case.
I made this update a week ago, I recommend it I don’t know what games you play, but for me it’s +50-80 fps in Call of duty mw3 MP, x2 fps CS2 (finally my fps is more than the monitor’s hz), in AAA it’s just corrected 0.1% and 1 %, but because of this it is much more enjoyable to play
Man, I just got this CPU yesterday, if I knew you would post a video about it, I would’ve waited for it. It is paired with a Vega 64, I think you would be proud of me.
@@ElinzarYeah the 5700XT would have been a much better choice. AMD has been dropping GCN support left and right despite using it in Ryzen APUs as late as 2022
I just upgraded from a Ryzen 3600 to a 5700x3d running a RTX 3080 in my sim racing rig PC with a 1080p triple monitor setup and in Iracing i have now twice the performance. That was just was i hoped for so im happy. I Saw a good boost in my other sim racing games too.
I have an RX6600 and I am prioritizing an X3D upgrade over a GPU upgrade for this very reason. In CPU intensive titles, it will see a massive gain in FPS. I currently use a 1440p monitor. The X3D will support me running at high framerates at 720p so I can upscale to 1440p using Lossless Scaling, an app which has really made a substantial change to the philosophy of PC upgrades.
Proud owner of the 5700X3D ❤ I don't know what you did but mine has a Cinebench 23 score of 13700 and temps never exceed 65 C. Very stable undervolt of all core - 30 works flawless! Pulling max of 82 Watts and cooled by a tower aircooler (Arctic Freezer 34 Duo).
My 5700X3D temps at stock settings and an Thermalright Assassin mini reaches 90'c when running Prime95 and about 70-80'C when running intensive programs and games. If I undervolt it by 30-40 mv, it drops 10'C and maxes out in the 60s-70'C in games and intensive programs.
I upgraded to the 5700X3D recently and I've got a similar score. Temps are also impressively low. I'm using an arctic liquid freezer iii 280 which I'm aware is massive overkill for this CPU but it was only about 60 quid and I wanted to try an AIO for the first time; it's awesome and nice and quiet too!
Especially for the price. Which is significantly cheaper than 5800X3D, at least in my country. 340£ for 5800X3D, and 175£ for 5700X3D, so literally a few FPS less for half of the price? I have 5700X3D with my 7900XT, and it's excellent 👌
I've been considering this CPU for an upgrade in my daughter's 3700x PC. Seems a great slot in, cheap upgrade and I don't feel you really need to jump to AM5 yet.
Recently got a 5700x3d and a 3070 after losing my pc in a flood. I'm loving it so far. Paid like 700 in total for the entire PC. Especially for tarkov and factorio
The 7800X3D has a miniscule performance difference when compared to the 5800X3D in gaming workloads. You might get 1-2% higher framerates and 3-4% better 1% lows. This is with very expensive DDR5 and what most people are running for DDR5 is going to perform worse than some cheap DDR4-3200 CL16 so there are definitely going to be some 5800X3D rigs out there which actually outperform a lot of 7800X3D rigs in gaming.
bought 5800x3d at realese and not planning to upgrade to anything else anytime soon. Might just skip whole am5 generation unless it really last for long time.
Iceberg the 5700x and 5700x3d exist only because Milan Servers are still ramping. Genoa or Bergamo cost realisticly 10k - 20k more ddr4 vs. DDR 5. Most of the Servers today are Limited by how much memory you can Hammer in Form the lowest cost. For Others a scale for every core we need 16GB per core or 8GB per Thread. Thats why Zen3 ist Not dead.
in new Zealand the price change is alot bigger going from am4 to 5 pc parts even second hand are pretty pricey here thats why i brought a 5700x3d it was a very decent upgrade from a i7 6700 lol and didnt break the bank seeing your video makes me happy i went with the 5700x3d as it was only 50nzd more then the 5700x as the x3d was second hand thats about 30 usd roughly
Here in the UK there is too unless you want a cheap and basic PCB. It's not like the B450s where there were loads of good boards around £100. To get the B650 good PCBs they're £200 upwards. And for what? 10% more FPS, typically, than a quick drop in chip for a hundred Quid (minus what I flog the old chip for).
Shurt, where'd you find it so cheap? Other than a single oem tray one from a site I've never heard of before I can't find any 5700X3d's for $50 more than the non 3d in NZ. PB have the 5700X for $299 and the X3d for $419, same as extremepc and most other sites.
7500F was the best purchase I ever made. Works well even with a garbage $75 motherboard. Hoping to get maybe 2 gpu upgrades before needing to touch the rest of the system.
Fantastic info just at the exact right time for me, as also in the UK and deciding on whether to upgrade my 5600g AM4 chip or move to AM 5 Thank you, subbed keep up these comparison videos pls.
I absolutely love my 5700X3D. Upgraded from Ryzen 3 2200g on an AsRock AB350M Pro4, 32GB DDR4-3200 CL16, and the upgrade is incredible. Also, my first sixteen thread chip! Makes CachyOS so much faster :D I can tell far easier when I’m being limited simply by SATA SSD access during OS load. NVMe, far less so :P I’m definitely underutilizing it with my RX 480 4G, but all that means is that I’m upgrade-ready!
i initially thought the low clockspeed will be a shitty experience, so i splurged and went with r7700 on AM5. 2 months later i got to build 5700x3d for my brother, This CPU performance is actually neck and neck with my r7700 and outperform it in some games but for half the price because AM4 and DDR4 is so damn cheap. Its a Great performer for people who can't afford rtx 4080 and above class of graphic card. This CPU will squeeze everything out of a 4070 super even on 1080p. It will push higher fps if u do -30 Curve optimizer all cores.
I just built a R7000 RTX 4070 Super System for Someone Got a Gigabyte B650 AX for 120$ and 2x16gb Gskill DDR6000 for 90$ The 7700 is 20$ more than a 5700x3d and i tought about going for a cheap AM4/DDR4 Platform but i recommended spending a little bit more for the AM5 Great Cpu for an existing AM4 System but for a new Build it`s a close Decision Do i save Money on the GPU or the Platform but on the other Hand if you buy a 500$ Gpu then AM5 should be in the Budget too
@@anulubongo1157 because I was able to save on the am4 platform, I was able to push higher budget for 4070super. Really couldn't have done it without the low price of am4. I thank amd for this
As others have said here, your Cinebench R23 score seems off for the 5700X3D. My 5700X3D, with PBO at -30 using 64GB 3600 CL18 RAM (running at 3533 CL16) just gave me a score of 13605 in multicore Cinebench R23. And this was just one run. Looking at how weak your Cinebench score is compared to other peoples 5700X3Ds I would assume it would affect your gaming scores aswell. From other tech channels I've seen the 5700X3D beats the 7500F in average. Make sure your infinity fabric clock is running at exactly half of the memory clock. Or maybe you didn't use PBO on the 5700X3D in this test? Looks like you did -20 PBO on the 5700X. Also, when googling 5700X3D Cinebench R23 multicore scores I find results in line or even better than my results.
Currently, I get around 15400 in CB R23 with my 5700x, 3600MHz CL16 4x8gb, -30 curve and 130 PPT, 80 TDC, 132 EDC, +200 MHz boost, 84° max at 4.5Ghz 1.25v on all cores.
Undervolting 5700X3D With PBO is possible, and it gives roughly %10 performance uplift at Cinebench R23 with my Gigabyte B450M DS3H. You might want to try it.
The 5700X3D is amazing value if you're already on AM4. I had a secondary desktop that I leave running under my desk for remoting into with Parsec for idle games or other stuff that I want to leave running without needing resources on my primary machine. It had a R7 1700X, 32GB 2133mhz RAM, and a GTX 960 2GB. I just swapped in a 5700X3D and even with the slow RAM and the awful video I'm getting 300fps at 1080p in Rimworld. Crazy stuff
Btw MSI MB-s have optional "overclock" for 3D chips called Kombo Strike. But I dont use that option as I managed to find better settings in overclocking menu to keep lower themps on my 5800X3D with air cooler. Would be good to know what system you used since there are WIN 11 problems.
Im on 1080p for the frames, I just got mine last week from ali express for like 144$ and man coming from the 3900x im getting 200+ fps on warzone,fortnite and im happy to be getting 144fps in single players games, Make sure you change the pbo2 tuning to -30 it does bring down the temps really good and fps boosts. Also windows 10 and 11 23h2 and 24h2 have different results in fps
After using Haswells for the past decade (E3-1270 v3 with RTS-2060-S and Xeon E3-1285L v3 with RTX 4060 as the latest upgrades), the recently built new PC - Ryzen 5 5600 paired with an RTX 4070 - feels like a whole other world and might be fit for another decade. I got used to playing on medium settings with DLSS and I still have headroom to upgrade my AM4 platform with an X3D CPU. Thanks to this channel, now I know my way around PC part deals.
I'm using a "original" Ryzen 7 5800X3D and with an offset -30 on all cores (MSI motherboard the option called Kombo Strike) and it boosts to 4450 mhz all core during gaming and it even colder than the out of the box settings howering around 60-65 °C. Great CPU paired with an RTX 4080 I will keep it until next gen GPUs and would buy a whole new PC.
my 5800x3d still runs a bit warm even at -30 CO at 70-75C (it runs 1.12 volts idle and 1.2 volts max under load) with the NH-D15. It does handle everything well from pushing consitent 1000 FPS on Osu! Lazer, to pushing 120-170fps in Ghost of Tsushima (with DLSS Quality and 4080 Super) at 1440p. It will still consume 100 watts if you push PBO to motherboard limits so people just play with TDC, PPT, and EDC to keep temps low. AM4 X3D is still good. Really good for people who don't want to jump to AM5 (or are too lazy to do a full platform upgrade like me, because it's a pain to gut the entire PC just for a new motherboard + DDR5). I think the reason that you have different performance from changing motherboards is how different AIB's handle their PBO motherboard limits. One could go ham with their TDC, PPT, and EDC values, meaning holding boost longer, higher temps, but it doesn't necessarily mean more performance. It could be holding back the chip because it's hitting PBO limits way too early. So if it hits one of those limits, that's when the Mobo will start pulling its punches to hit/go under said PPT, TDC, EDC limit.
I worked for Intel for 10yrs and kept nothing but Intel/Nvidia combos faithfully. AM4 is what brought me over. The plattform is so upgradeable. I still have and love my old ddr3 Intel systems but AM4 is the premier platform in my house, I have 2 of them and working on a third, for the family.
Have been running all my systems on AM4 since launch. First year was a nightmare (memory controller) but since then it has been a steady incremental upgrade path swapping the CPU only. Still not decided on the last upgrade on this platform between 5700X3D and 5900, almost the same price.
I Love My current AM4 Platform - Ryzen 7 3700X, 32GB DDR4 3200 CL14 and an GTX 1070 on a AsRock X470 Master SLI - An Upgrade to an RTX 3070 and the 5700X3D would squeeze save 4-5 More Years out of it - its impressive when we consider how old AM4 is (March 2017)
What's sad is I will probably skip the entirety of AM5 given I'm still using a 3700x and mid-range budget GPUs from 3 years ago and gaming at 60fps without sweating
I bought a 5700X3D three weeks ago. I was waiting to see if the 9000 series would be good enough to make an AM5 upgrade worth it, but since I got my 2700X and X470 combo when it first launched, I felt the new platform wasn't compelling enough for the significantly higher cost, at least in my case (though I agree that for anyone without an AM4 setup, it makes sense). I’m pretty happy with my 5700X3D and RTX 3080 for now-it performs noticeably better than my 2700X and GTX 970. This upgrade was long overdue!
Got one this morning hours before this video dropped. I am an ITX SFF enjoyer, and ITX AM5 boards are still incredibly expensive!!! Needing new ram and cooling on top of that just makes the next platform hard to justify buying into yet!
just (re)built a system for my buddy who upgraded his 2600x to a 5700X3D. All we had to do was update the bios. AM4 rocks. He couldn't be happier. Hope my AM5 will be just as great.
I've just recently bought 5700x3d (upgraded from 5600x) specifically for games such as valorant, cs, siege etc. and the fps boost for those games is insane. Warzone as well.
i got a 5700x3d from aliexpress delivered for about $180 usd. It works fine and happy with it after selling my 5600x the upgrade only cost about $70 usd total, a lot cheaper then me upgrading to am5 in a years time. I can have this system for 3-4 more years or until next gen consoles come out and games get way harder to run.
I just upgraded my r7 1800x to r5950. The new CPU cost just 300€. I've had this system since 2017. I still have my x370 Asus CH6 hero mobo. Just a bios update made it compatible AMD promised long life platform for the early adopter, and they delivered! Is this the GOAT PC of my life? Most likely it is! I bought the overkill mobo because I wanted it to last as long as possible. It has great power delivery so I can do some PBO tuning. I bought a 1080ti in 2017. I will use it until I can't play new games at 1080p low settings. I paid 830€ for it, and that really hurt. I want to justify such a reckless purchase by making it worth it in the end. I feel so good that my faith for the AM4 paid out.
My PC died of the last 8 years died on me finally, and I managed to pick up a 5700X3D, 32gig of 3600 ram and a full sized ATX motherboard brand new for well with in my price range and I couldn't believe it. It was more expensive to go for the entry level AM5 chip with 16gig of DDR5 with an mATX board, for my personal situation the AM5 offerings just weren't a good enough value for money compared to this option. Yeah I've no real upgrade path from here but when you only buy a new PC once every 8 to 10 years it doesn't matter much lol. Picked up an geforce 3060 12 gig second hand awhile back that was always getting bottle necked by my old cpu. Now no bottle necking and having the best gaming experience I've had in years for a decent price tag.
Upgraded from 3700X to 5700X3D paird with my 3080. Definitely seeing some great gains. At $200, I see it as an interim CPU as I plan to do a brand new build in a year or so.
If you ever get bored, try the 5700/5700g. I had one recently and messed around with it because it was monolithic ryzen not chiplet. So the Fabric clock reached Zen 4 levels, I got mine to 2200mhz fclock on 1.35mv (debauer torture tested these to prove monolithic SoC can survive 1.35 for daily operations). I know they always said these 16mb cache zen 3 variants were the worst, but I think that's because it doesn't need as much cache to compensate for memory latencies and speeds. The infinity fabric binds separate chiplet parts and runs off of memory so naturally regular ryzen was memory sensitive with a "sweet spot" of 3600. When I ran my 5700g at fclock 2200, ram at 4133 mushkin redline SR 2x16gb, core @4.8ghz with 1.28mv I was getting all core 4.8ghz with less than 110w. I just didn't have any other ryzen to test it against, but if they can all easily be tuned to that, it's the cheapest modern 8 core that could deliver incredible performance and performance per watt. Also I used a b350 tomahawk someone gave me with a beta bios so this could be done on a budget easily.
I bought Ryzen 5700X3D last month because it was best budget upgrade for my Zen2 platform. Just swap the CPU and that's it. I was considering switching to AM5 but that would be twice the money. I wasn't sure what to do, until Zen5 arrived and I seen its benchmarks. I stay on Zen3 X3D for time being.
This is a really good deal. It's $313.00 CND taxes in. If I had the extra money I would get it but for now I'm happy with the 5600x paired with a 4060ti 16gb for just 1080p gaming.
I also think a major reason why AM5 adoption is slow is because AM4 and Ryzen 5000-series in particular were such an immense improvement of what Intel previously offered in their 4core lineup, that a lot of us find ourselves in a situation where we actually don't need any more performance 🤷♂. I'm a power user myself, and a gamer. And I am perfectly fine with Ryzen 5600. It's honestly still plenty fast for gaming. And even when doing demanding productivity workloads it's not like I loose a lot of time with this compared to anything else. I have my eyes set on the 5700X3D as a final upgrade, but I am also getting a feeling that I will keep this platform for 10+ years in total.
Swapped my good old 2700x for a 5700x3d and I noticed how much power it has, my 4060ti doesnt have the power to use a lot of it. Loved those 5xxxx3d cpus giving ma4 some more life
I got a Ryzen R7 7700 on Ali Express for $198. My local pricing is around $435 lol! It clocks so well that I would dare to say it seems to be a silicon winner :D
My brother just upgraded his 5700g he got during the gpu pandemic to the 5700x3d and 7800XT. I'm taking his old apu and putting it in an htpc for my girlfriend. I love am4 and was rocking a 3700x until I finally got the 7800x3d a few months back.
differences in perfs comes to different bios revisions and/or windows versions check the video named "Windows 11 bride vos performances oui. Mais pas que lui" from french youtuber "VCG" graphs are easily understandable for non-french speakers BTW he makes an amazing job, best french tech channel so far
I just installed this on an old AM4 MB. Added 32 Ram to the existing 16 and a 4060 graphics card. Got it for $209, but it came with a 1TB nvme card. I was going to buy a 1TB SSD, so instead bought a $8 pci card to put it in. I already had a nvme card with the OS on it, so I wasn't going to replace it. Added a $17 cpu cooler and was in for about $625 total. Was going to get a new AM5 setup, but it would have cost about $900. It would have been better, but for my needs, probably not worth the extra cost. Plus I was hoping it would be easy to upgrade since I didn't have to swap a MB. Sadly, it turns out I had to remove the MB to add the CPU cooler, so would have just as easy to swap in a new MB.
Yeah, I think many will be buying the 5700X3D to push an existing build. I replaced a 5600 with the 5700X3D and it was a nice jump in performance. I imagine the guys going from a 3600 or so would be really happy.
Owing an AM4 platform is rather implied when looking at the cost. Not if i should buy a whole new system based on AM4 or AM5. That is 100% the intended target consumer. As it was when i got my 5800X3D. Still really happy.
As someone with a 5700g with a defective controller that fights with the dgpu if the igpu is enabled, and prevents it from using the shared system memory leading to BSODs, on top of the intentional limit to PCIe 3.0 it has, I could benefit from getting a 5700x3d considerably.
The 5700X3D came out around a month after I bought my 5800X3D. Price difference is annoying but as with my 4790K - it will only be upgraded from when my videocard is no longer the bottleneck.
What I don't understand are people who don't already have an AM4 motherboard, buying into the older 3d chips... I mean, when buying new, a 7600x is actually much better value (at least in Germany).
@@pooley3l33t Thats why he specified not having and AM4 mobo. I dont get it either, I mean sure if you can snag it for a good deal and are limited on budget otherwise AM5 (even after the terrible 9000 series) makes more sense.
I slightly regret not going with am4 because of the socket of am5 requiring so much precision for the cpu install. I bent some pins and had to unbend them with a broken toothpick and a dental tool. It seemed alright afterwards even with a loose pin-cap. The am4 install seems a lot easier and a better guarantee of non-bent pins once it's inside.
I can understand why AMD keep the AM4 socket alive. If there's any way for them to maintain market share, albeit on an older socket, its a no brainer. Especially since AMD isn't forking out new silicon that could have gone to am5 chips, its more likely that the 5700x3D is just underperforming 5800x3D chips. Plus, for under 200 dollars, its a KILLER upgrade coming from 1st, 2nd and even 3rd gen Ryzen
Been an Intel guy since the days of the 8088 CPU. Started building my own PC's in 1985. I got rid of all my AMD AM4 stuff and went back to Intel. My 12th gen CPU's will last me another 10+ years. Still have a working system running an i7-3770, 16GB DDR3-1600 ram and a GTX 1650 Super. Don't need AMD anymore.
I got my 7500F from aliexpress for £116 including tax and I'm very happy with the performance. The 7700 is an even better bargain as it's about £100 less than uk prices after tax if you need more cores. I got the 7500F to get me onto am5 and will save up for a 7800x3d or wait a while and see how new chips go next year.
At this rate AMD will be coming out with the Phenom II X3D
Athlon 64 X8X3D 3900+
While not a speed demon by modern standards, my 2008, 6-core Phenom II kept on plugging along until two years ago.
@@hyperturbotechnomikeThis sounds like hell...
Had the 1090t with an 5700xt and 16gb of RAM 6 months ago, played everything i needed to in 1080p. Legendary processor
Zen 4 3D right now is the phenom II of gaming for AMD
the damn cpu is on average 20% faster in gaming then its own regular Zen 4 models.
upgraded from Ryzen 3 3100 to 5700x3d, yeah enough to last me for the next 3-4 yrs AM5 mobo + ddr5 is just too expensive atm.
same here, 3 systems upgrade to 5950X , indeed expensive atm.
Same except I had a 3600
I Love playing around with old PC hardware and am4 is looking like it's going to be the new goat of CPU generations.
I've been playing around with amd system's since the AM2 Athlon x2 era, and for what it's worth each generation before and after until Ryzen 3k has lagged behind Intel.
When I had been using my athlon x2 4200+ it handily outperformed the comparative Intel pentiums.
Moving forward I have a soft spot for the try hard FX am3+ system's because of their versatility over comparable Intel early i series CPU.
While they were not as good at running in windows 10 as well as the the 2nd Gen I series at first, at this time the FX 6300 and 8350 do work better than 2nd Gen i series CPU now.
The first gen am3 FX 6100, 8100's run on par between the 2nd and 3rd Gen i series CPU, the 6300, 8350 am3+ goes toe to toe, blow for blow with 4th Gen i series CPU, beating and getting beat based on what game is being played.
What am3+ does better than Intel IMO is backwards compatibility. The FX 8350 is incredible at running multiple os boots for XP64, windows 7 and windows 10 on the same hardware.
The last Intel CPU that I had running multiple boot os was the core two quad qx 6700 with XP and windows 7.
I've read and seen first and second i series CPU running multiple boot for XP64 and windows 7 as well as windows 10 albeit with more complications than I've seen out of multiple boot FX builds when it came to windows 10.
If 3d v cache becomes the new standard for gaming CPU I think am4 will hold goat status longer than any platform that came before it. IMO
I upgraded my 5600x to a 5700x3d, for future proofing and stuff.
Ddr5 is still a nightmare
Realistically people buying the 5700x3d already have an am4 motherboard so then the price for picking an am5 chip is wayyyy higher
Nah, it's actually not wayyy higher. I just sold off 8 AM4 5000 cpu's, x570 boards and 32gb ram kits in the last 8 months. Investing in AM4 5700X3D is a ok upgrade only for those that dare not touch their hardware. AM5 is basically the same price if you shop smart. You can sell your AM4 parts and get a budget B650, 32gb premium 6000 CL30 kit and a 7500F/7600/7600X for maybe $50-100 tops out of pocket. About the same out of pocket upgrading to a 5700X3D and selling a cpu.
@45eno youre considering US prices because, well, you live there. but in the rest of the world AM5 is even more overpriced, so just popping a 700x3d is way cheaper
@@watchmejumpstart24 Nah. 5700X3D is still overpriced, compared to 7500f build. I checked the prices in Europe and Asia and came to conclusion that in these regions it is usually cheaper to switch to AM5 rather than upgrade to 5700X3D.
P. S. I have no idea why people are so obsessed with Zen 3 3D chips. The value is just not there. 🤔
@@stangamer1151 i wanted to chip my part in, i live in argentina, (yes, the economical hellhole) I just upgraded from R5 3400G to the 5700X3D, when i did the full research, it was between 2 and 3 times more expensive to get on AM5, it is the same on most of south america, tech is simply expensive, and my guess is that the same would be true for most third would countries.
Just upgraded my 5600X to a 5700X3D. Got a huge FPS boost in games like Hunt Showdown.
We need a 5950x3d
I hope this happens. If it does then I won't upgrade to ddr5 ever until ddr6 is released at least.
I would buy it, even knowing that it wouldn't be fully used.
@@NikosM112 for some reason I despise ddr5 its just horrible value for money
100% extra cache and enough cores for 27 ai cars? YESSSSSSßS
5800X3D is already a hot piece of silicon, so I wonder how much worse would that one be.
I love me some AM4 and hope it lives for another 10 years to come! Cheers to you AM4!!
5700x3d and 7900 GRE is 1440p monster
I won't upgrade till AM6
7900 gre is best value GPU on the market hands down AMD really did us a solid with bringing it to the world wide market
Got same setup bro. I'll just wait till this motherboard, or cpu dies.
Wouldn’t the 7900gre be too much to handle? I.e bottlenecking
Nah, the 5800x3d didn't bottle neck the 4090 and the 5700x3d clock speed is only so much slower (little to no difference)
eyy same setup, very underated pairing
I was lucky enough to obtain a 5600X3D, and it's quite the little beast. Paired it with a 4070 Super that was acquired open box for less than the price of a vanilla 4070, and I'm hardly left wanting for more at 1440p.
try setting your desktop to DSRDL 2.25x , doesn't cost much performance , but man , the sharpness , it's a great upgrade for free
that 4070 will just laugh at the resolution , no worries
have the 4070ti super oc , with a 8700K 5Ghz , hogwarts hogsmeade is the town to try out fps numbers , by just turning the camera
completely stable @ 120fps DLAA + frame gen of course , only a 8700K , lol
mad max 240fps 4K stable , no frame gen , but i could get 480 fps if i put on frame gen with an extra program i have and 240 in Hogwarts , tried it , but isn't stable yet
and that's only 2x frame gen , this program now has 4x frame gen , need a good processor though to get frames at a stable level , i think
120 and 240 is good for now
I love this chip to bits. The 5700X3D can be found for 135-ish USD on AExp, much less than the 5800X3D, yet only a minor difference in performance. Paired it with a 4070, I won’t be touching this system for years. Cheers on the vid, Iceberg 🎉
Ayo dude can you send me the link where its being sold at 135 usd?
@@usmanafridi3062 Wait for a sale with coupons from Comet Crash on AE. I got one for $180 CAD (133 USD), arrived in a week. They usually have sales at the start of each month.
I love it when tech ppl talk positively about tech
@@usmanafridi3062 gotta wait for sales, sometimes you can get it even cheaper like less than 120
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My main system was a 7800x3d + 7900xtx. Over at my desk. I am a cripple so I sit in my wheelchair. Haven't been feeling well and doctors legitimately dont care to help me find out why I dont feel good. So i've been in bed. So i bought a 5700x3d to go in my old x570 meg ace board that used to house a 3950x with 32gb ddr4 3600 cl14 ram. And with my old 6900xt, i bought a "bed pc" system. and its a mad lad. running a 1440p 240hz OLED (asus model) but run it in 120hz mode with black frame insertion. and yeah, its amazing in gaming. I saved a lot of money using old ram, old motherboard, old graphics card. So the 5700x3d was the smarter buy over buying cpu+motherboard+ram to make a second am5 system.
I have a garage PC that slowly gets better parts as they come up. Found a used 5700X3D for $140 and it replaced the 5700X that I sold for $120. I have 3x 7800X3D and all have older 6950XT,6900XT,6800XT and the CPU is still benefiting me as I don't care about ULTRA detail and prefer 240fps fixed. I just lower in game settings till I hit an acceptable FPS range. Sounds like a solid secondary PC you built there.
I hope you get well and feel better!
Espero que se divirta muito com o 5700x3d e que melhore logo, saudações do Brasil
@@45eno Bro what are you doing with so many similar PC's, are you running LAN parties in your garage or something? I have lots of PC's also, but I wait a couple of generations before I decide to build another. I don't get why one would have use for many similar ones, so I am curious about your use case.
what happened to you ? what are your symptoms ?
5700x3d video 🗣️🔥
As someone that still has a ryzen 3600, the drop in upgrade to 5700x3d for about $200 seems like a no brainer that should last me 2-3 years at least.
more like 5-6 years. The 5700X3D will handle a 4090 and likely will handle a 5090 as well.
I made this update a week ago, I recommend it
I don’t know what games you play, but for me it’s +50-80 fps in Call of duty mw3 MP, x2 fps CS2 (finally my fps is more than the monitor’s hz), in AAA it’s just corrected 0.1% and 1 %, but because of this it is much more enjoyable to play
Man, I just got this CPU yesterday, if I knew you would post a video about it, I would’ve waited for it.
It is paired with a Vega 64, I think you would be proud of me.
get an RX 5700XT and complete the wombo combo
@@ElinzarYeah the 5700XT would have been a much better choice. AMD has been dropping GCN support left and right despite using it in Ryzen APUs as late as 2022
Haha i got this chip to go with my vega56 on saturday! 😅
@@Ibrahimarm I'd say get a RX 6700 XT, that's the better budget GPU than the RX 5700 XT and VEGA 64.
But the Vega has a cool factor the Newers cards can't match
I just upgraded from a Ryzen 3600 to a 5700x3d running a RTX 3080 in my sim racing rig PC with a 1080p triple monitor setup and in Iracing i have now twice the performance.
That was just was i hoped for so im happy. I Saw a good boost in my other sim racing games too.
I have an RX6600 and I am prioritizing an X3D upgrade over a GPU upgrade for this very reason. In CPU intensive titles, it will see a massive gain in FPS. I currently use a 1440p monitor. The X3D will support me running at high framerates at 720p so I can upscale to 1440p using Lossless Scaling, an app which has really made a substantial change to the philosophy of PC upgrades.
That benchmark theme song will never get old
I always come back for the song😭
The opening is just too🔥
@@chiboy_speaks fr man
Proud owner of the 5700X3D ❤
I don't know what you did but mine has a Cinebench 23 score of 13700 and temps never exceed 65 C.
Very stable undervolt of all core - 30 works flawless! Pulling max of 82 Watts and cooled by a tower aircooler (Arctic Freezer 34 Duo).
Same, 13850 here, -30 PBO. There's something wrong with his system.
My 5700X3D temps at stock settings and an Thermalright Assassin mini reaches 90'c when running Prime95 and about 70-80'C when running intensive programs and games. If I undervolt it by 30-40 mv, it drops 10'C and maxes out in the 60s-70'C in games and intensive programs.
Yeah all x3d should be able to do -30mv as higher binned chips, his scores seem quite low
I upgraded to the 5700X3D recently and I've got a similar score. Temps are also impressively low. I'm using an arctic liquid freezer iii 280 which I'm aware is massive overkill for this CPU but it was only about 60 quid and I wanted to try an AIO for the first time; it's awesome and nice and quiet too!
@@IntranetusaI'm getting the same temps. Tho I'm using a thermalright assassin x120. And i can't undervolt because of my cheapo b350 motherboard 😂
Especially for the price. Which is significantly cheaper than 5800X3D, at least in my country. 340£ for 5800X3D, and 175£ for 5700X3D, so literally a few FPS less for half of the price?
I have 5700X3D with my 7900XT, and it's excellent 👌
I've been considering this CPU for an upgrade in my daughter's 3700x PC. Seems a great slot in, cheap upgrade and I don't feel you really need to jump to AM5 yet.
Recently got a 5700x3d and a 3070 after losing my pc in a flood. I'm loving it so far. Paid like 700 in total for the entire PC. Especially for tarkov and factorio
The last few days I've been considering upgrading from a r5 3600 to a 5700x3d and coincidentally you released this, thank you
I'd say this is the best 5000 series chip imo.
Everything that beats it does so for a price many can't justify.
The 7800X3D has a miniscule performance difference when compared to the 5800X3D in gaming workloads. You might get 1-2% higher framerates and 3-4% better 1% lows. This is with very expensive DDR5 and what most people are running for DDR5 is going to perform worse than some cheap DDR4-3200 CL16 so there are definitely going to be some 5800X3D rigs out there which actually outperform a lot of 7800X3D rigs in gaming.
*AM4 is the 1080 Ti of AMD.*
Got mine on aliexpress for 140 bucks. Awesome Cpu.
bought 5800x3d at realese and not planning to upgrade to anything else anytime soon. Might just skip whole am5 generation unless it really last for long time.
Or buy the top of the line AM5 CPU and mobo for cheap when AM6 or whatever new socket comes around.
Same here, i have thought about going AM5 7800x3d
currently using a 5800x3d / 4080s and been told by people who know better to not waste my momey 😂😅
Iceberg the 5700x and 5700x3d exist only because Milan Servers are still ramping. Genoa or Bergamo cost realisticly 10k - 20k more ddr4 vs. DDR 5. Most of the Servers today are Limited by how much memory you can Hammer in Form the lowest cost. For Others a scale for every core we need 16GB per core or 8GB per Thread. Thats why Zen3 ist Not dead.
man how are only on 72k subs, this channel is the most underrated channel ever
in new Zealand the price change is alot bigger going from am4 to 5 pc parts even second hand are pretty pricey here thats why i brought a 5700x3d it was a very decent upgrade from a i7 6700 lol and didnt break the bank seeing your video makes me happy i went with the 5700x3d as it was only 50nzd more then the 5700x as the x3d was second hand thats about 30 usd roughly
Here in the UK there is too unless you want a cheap and basic PCB. It's not like the B450s where there were loads of good boards around £100. To get the B650 good PCBs they're £200 upwards. And for what? 10% more FPS, typically, than a quick drop in chip for a hundred Quid (minus what I flog the old chip for).
Shurt, where'd you find it so cheap? Other than a single oem tray one from a site I've never heard of before I can't find any 5700X3d's for $50 more than the non 3d in NZ. PB have the 5700X for $299 and the X3d for $419, same as extremepc and most other sites.
@@chronic_hemphog trade me theres a wellington seller thats selling them for 350 secondhand ones so no box just the tray with cpu
trademe 2nd hand theres a wellington seller
Paired this with an RX 6800 for my cousin, he hopefully isn’t gonna have to upgrade it for years to come😊
Well it will become a solid 1080p machine in around in 4-6 years
@@shrishpotdar343 true, and if he keeps playing primarily e-sports titles it’ll probably last even longer
This combo can handle 2k just fine lol, its marginally slower than a 4070
@@sjargo11 exactly
@@RowdyDandydepends on the game and the settings. But yeah some games it can handle.
7500F was the best purchase I ever made. Works well even with a garbage $75 motherboard. Hoping to get maybe 2 gpu upgrades before needing to touch the rest of the system.
Fantastic info just at the exact right time for me, as also in the UK and deciding on whether to upgrade my 5600g AM4 chip or move to AM 5
Thank you, subbed keep up these comparison videos pls.
okay that transition between Valo and CS2 was practically seamless
I absolutely love my 5700X3D. Upgraded from Ryzen 3 2200g on an AsRock AB350M Pro4, 32GB DDR4-3200 CL16, and the upgrade is incredible. Also, my first sixteen thread chip!
Makes CachyOS so much faster :D I can tell far easier when I’m being limited simply by SATA SSD access during OS load. NVMe, far less so :P
I’m definitely underutilizing it with my RX 480 4G, but all that means is that I’m upgrade-ready!
That transition between Valorant and CS was slick
i initially thought the low clockspeed will be a shitty experience, so i splurged and went with r7700 on AM5.
2 months later i got to build 5700x3d for my brother, This CPU performance is actually neck and neck with my r7700 and outperform it in some games but for half the price because AM4 and DDR4 is so damn cheap.
Its a Great performer for people who can't afford rtx 4080 and above class of graphic card.
This CPU will squeeze everything out of a 4070 super even on 1080p.
It will push higher fps if u do -30 Curve optimizer all cores.
I just built a R7000 RTX 4070 Super System for Someone
Got a Gigabyte B650 AX for 120$ and 2x16gb Gskill DDR6000 for 90$
The 7700 is 20$ more than a 5700x3d and i tought about going for a cheap AM4/DDR4 Platform but i recommended spending a little bit more for the AM5
Great Cpu for an existing AM4 System but for a new Build it`s a close Decision
Do i save Money on the GPU or the Platform but on the other Hand if you buy a 500$ Gpu then AM5 should be in the Budget too
@@anulubongo1157 because I was able to save on the am4 platform, I was able to push higher budget for 4070super. Really couldn't have done it without the low price of am4. I thank amd for this
As others have said here, your Cinebench R23 score seems off for the 5700X3D. My 5700X3D, with PBO at -30 using 64GB 3600 CL18 RAM (running at 3533 CL16) just gave me a score of 13605 in multicore Cinebench R23. And this was just one run. Looking at how weak your Cinebench score is compared to other peoples 5700X3Ds I would assume it would affect your gaming scores aswell. From other tech channels I've seen the 5700X3D beats the 7500F in average. Make sure your infinity fabric clock is running at exactly half of the memory clock. Or maybe you didn't use PBO on the 5700X3D in this test? Looks like you did -20 PBO on the 5700X. Also, when googling 5700X3D Cinebench R23 multicore scores I find results in line or even better than my results.
That can't be it. Running 5700X3D PBO -30 with 3000MHz CL16 right now and I get around 13800-13850 in CB R23. There's something off with his sample.
Currently, I get around 15400 in CB R23 with my 5700x, 3600MHz CL16 4x8gb, -30 curve and 130 PPT, 80 TDC, 132 EDC, +200 MHz boost, 84° max at 4.5Ghz 1.25v on all cores.
Undervolting 5700X3D With PBO is possible, and it gives roughly %10 performance uplift at Cinebench R23 with my Gigabyte B450M DS3H. You might want to try it.
I need more information about this .I have MSI b450 gaming pro Carbon and waiting for my 5700x3d
@@JaVav92 Pbo2 tuner, -30 all cores.
@@EthanolEnthusiast I need to download PBO2 tuner and set All cores to -30 a tested it? Ok thx, i will try
@@polobruh7255 I wouldn't buy a new AM4 board unnecessarily.You can try to set up RAM manually.On the Internet is a lot of tutorials how to do it.
@@JaVav92 Yes, or -20. See what works best for you. I use -20
The 5700X3D is amazing value if you're already on AM4. I had a secondary desktop that I leave running under my desk for remoting into with Parsec for idle games or other stuff that I want to leave running without needing resources on my primary machine. It had a R7 1700X, 32GB 2133mhz RAM, and a GTX 960 2GB. I just swapped in a 5700X3D and even with the slow RAM and the awful video I'm getting 300fps at 1080p in Rimworld. Crazy stuff
I'm playing on 5700X3D - great chip.
got mine off ali express for 130, love this cpu
I picked one of these up a few months ago, and it's been a lovely upgrade and should keep me up to speed till the sort out AM5
Btw MSI MB-s have optional "overclock" for 3D chips called Kombo Strike.
But I dont use that option as I managed to find better settings in overclocking menu to keep lower themps on my 5800X3D with air cooler.
Would be good to know what system you used since there are WIN 11 problems.
Iceberg, make sure (SVM) Virtualization is turned off in your BIOS. If it's not, that could account for your missing 5700x performance.
Also GPU . Different gpu = different fps even with cpu "bottleneck "
Starting the week with an Iceberg video on a Monday morning makes the workday feel so much lighter!
I have two socket AM4 machines acting as servers in my home right now. I hope Socket AM4 never dies. It's awesome.
Im on 1080p for the frames, I just got mine last week from ali express for like 144$ and man coming from the 3900x im getting 200+ fps on warzone,fortnite and im happy to be getting 144fps in single players games,
Make sure you change the pbo2 tuning to -30 it does bring down the temps really good and fps boosts. Also windows 10 and 11 23h2 and 24h2 have different results in fps
Underrated channel
After using Haswells for the past decade (E3-1270 v3 with RTS-2060-S and Xeon E3-1285L v3 with RTX 4060 as the latest upgrades), the recently built new PC - Ryzen 5 5600 paired with an RTX 4070 - feels like a whole other world and might be fit for another decade. I got used to playing on medium settings with DLSS and I still have headroom to upgrade my AM4 platform with an X3D CPU. Thanks to this channel, now I know my way around PC part deals.
I'm using a "original" Ryzen 7 5800X3D and with an offset -30 on all cores (MSI motherboard the option called Kombo Strike) and it boosts to 4450 mhz all core during gaming and it even colder than the out of the box settings howering around 60-65 °C. Great CPU paired with an RTX 4080 I will keep it until next gen GPUs and would buy a whole new PC.
As a proud user of 5700X3D I must say It is more than banger CPU. It is hilatious when my 3080 is the bottleneck most times XD
my 5800x3d still runs a bit warm even at -30 CO at 70-75C (it runs 1.12 volts idle and 1.2 volts max under load) with the NH-D15. It does handle everything well from pushing consitent 1000 FPS on Osu! Lazer, to pushing 120-170fps in Ghost of Tsushima (with DLSS Quality and 4080 Super) at 1440p. It will still consume 100 watts if you push PBO to motherboard limits so people just play with TDC, PPT, and EDC to keep temps low.
AM4 X3D is still good. Really good for people who don't want to jump to AM5 (or are too lazy to do a full platform upgrade like me, because it's a pain to gut the entire PC just for a new motherboard + DDR5).
I think the reason that you have different performance from changing motherboards is how different AIB's handle their PBO motherboard limits. One could go ham with their TDC, PPT, and EDC values, meaning holding boost longer, higher temps, but it doesn't necessarily mean more performance. It could be holding back the chip because it's hitting PBO limits way too early. So if it hits one of those limits, that's when the Mobo will start pulling its punches to hit/go under said PPT, TDC, EDC limit.
I worked for Intel for 10yrs and kept nothing but Intel/Nvidia combos faithfully. AM4 is what brought me over. The plattform is so upgradeable. I still have and love my old ddr3 Intel systems but AM4 is the premier platform in my house, I have 2 of them and working on a third, for the family.
Have been running all my systems on AM4 since launch. First year was a nightmare (memory controller) but since then it has been a steady incremental upgrade path swapping the CPU only. Still not decided on the last upgrade on this platform between 5700X3D and 5900, almost the same price.
I Love My current AM4 Platform - Ryzen 7 3700X, 32GB DDR4 3200 CL14 and an GTX 1070 on a AsRock X470 Master SLI - An Upgrade to an RTX 3070 and the 5700X3D would squeeze save 4-5 More Years out of it - its impressive when we consider how old AM4 is (March 2017)
I've been pondering this and now I have an answer. $50 isn't worth the sacrifices.
Thanks dude.
What's sad is I will probably skip the entirety of AM5 given I'm still using a 3700x and mid-range budget GPUs from 3 years ago and gaming at 60fps without sweating
Why? Im on a 3700x too but I plan to upgrade to the 11700x whenever that releases. Hopefully AMD can launch 11000 series without performance issues
No way! Video that we didn't expect but actually needed. Thanks a lot!!!
I bought a 5700X3D three weeks ago. I was waiting to see if the 9000 series would be good enough to make an AM5 upgrade worth it, but since I got my 2700X and X470 combo when it first launched, I felt the new platform wasn't compelling enough for the significantly higher cost, at least in my case (though I agree that for anyone without an AM4 setup, it makes sense). I’m pretty happy with my 5700X3D and RTX 3080 for now-it performs noticeably better than my 2700X and GTX 970. This upgrade was long overdue!
hmmm... is it compatible with B450 board...
Yes
Got one this morning hours before this video dropped. I am an ITX SFF enjoyer, and ITX AM5 boards are still incredibly expensive!!! Needing new ram and cooling on top of that just makes the next platform hard to justify buying into yet!
just (re)built a system for my buddy who upgraded his 2600x to a 5700X3D. All we had to do was update the bios. AM4 rocks. He couldn't be happier. Hope my AM5 will be just as great.
I've just recently bought 5700x3d (upgraded from 5600x) specifically for games such as valorant, cs, siege etc. and the fps boost for those games is insane. Warzone as well.
I mainly picked it up because I got a combo with the 5700x3d, b550 motherboard, 16gb ram, and a 1tb nvme ssd all for $260 shipped.
Im currently using the 5700x3d. It works fantastic
Im still rocking am4 on my 3 pcs. 3700x + 2080ti, 5800x + 3080 and 5800x + 3090. AM4 just wont die!
YESSS, I was looking forward for this video for so long
i got a 5700x3d from aliexpress delivered for about $180 usd. It works fine and happy with it after selling my 5600x the upgrade only cost about $70 usd total, a lot cheaper then me upgrading to am5 in a years time. I can have this system for 3-4 more years or until next gen consoles come out and games get way harder to run.
I just upgraded my r7 1800x to r5950. The new CPU cost just 300€. I've had this system since 2017. I still have my x370 Asus CH6 hero mobo. Just a bios update made it compatible AMD promised long life platform for the early adopter, and they delivered!
Is this the GOAT PC of my life? Most likely it is! I bought the overkill mobo because I wanted it to last as long as possible. It has great power delivery so I can do some PBO tuning.
I bought a 1080ti in 2017. I will use it until I can't play new games at 1080p low settings. I paid 830€ for it, and that really hurt. I want to justify such a reckless purchase by making it worth it in the end.
I feel so good that my faith for the AM4 paid out.
My PC died of the last 8 years died on me finally, and I managed to pick up a 5700X3D, 32gig of 3600 ram and a full sized ATX motherboard brand new for well with in my price range and I couldn't believe it. It was more expensive to go for the entry level AM5 chip with 16gig of DDR5 with an mATX board, for my personal situation the AM5 offerings just weren't a good enough value for money compared to this option. Yeah I've no real upgrade path from here but when you only buy a new PC once every 8 to 10 years it doesn't matter much lol. Picked up an geforce 3060 12 gig second hand awhile back that was always getting bottle necked by my old cpu. Now no bottle necking and having the best gaming experience I've had in years for a decent price tag.
Upgraded from 3700X to 5700X3D paird with my 3080. Definitely seeing some great gains. At $200, I see it as an interim CPU as I plan to do a brand new build in a year or so.
If you ever get bored, try the 5700/5700g. I had one recently and messed around with it because it was monolithic ryzen not chiplet. So the Fabric clock reached Zen 4 levels, I got mine to 2200mhz fclock on 1.35mv (debauer torture tested these to prove monolithic SoC can survive 1.35 for daily operations). I know they always said these 16mb cache zen 3 variants were the worst, but I think that's because it doesn't need as much cache to compensate for memory latencies and speeds. The infinity fabric binds separate chiplet parts and runs off of memory so naturally regular ryzen was memory sensitive with a "sweet spot" of 3600. When I ran my 5700g at fclock 2200, ram at 4133 mushkin redline SR 2x16gb, core @4.8ghz with 1.28mv I was getting all core 4.8ghz with less than 110w. I just didn't have any other ryzen to test it against, but if they can all easily be tuned to that, it's the cheapest modern 8 core that could deliver incredible performance and performance per watt. Also I used a b350 tomahawk someone gave me with a beta bios so this could be done on a budget easily.
I bought Ryzen 5700X3D last month because it was best budget upgrade for my Zen2 platform. Just swap the CPU and that's it. I was considering switching to AM5 but that would be twice the money. I wasn't sure what to do, until Zen5 arrived and I seen its benchmarks. I stay on Zen3 X3D for time being.
This is a really good deal. It's $313.00 CND taxes in. If I had the extra money I would get it but for now I'm happy with the 5600x paired with a 4060ti 16gb for just 1080p gaming.
I also think a major reason why AM5 adoption is slow is because AM4 and Ryzen 5000-series in particular were such an immense improvement of what Intel previously offered in their 4core lineup, that a lot of us find ourselves in a situation where we actually don't need any more performance 🤷♂. I'm a power user myself, and a gamer. And I am perfectly fine with Ryzen 5600. It's honestly still plenty fast for gaming. And even when doing demanding productivity workloads it's not like I loose a lot of time with this compared to anything else. I have my eyes set on the 5700X3D as a final upgrade, but I am also getting a feeling that I will keep this platform for 10+ years in total.
Swapped my good old 2700x for a 5700x3d and I noticed how much power it has, my 4060ti doesnt have the power to use a lot of it. Loved those 5xxxx3d cpus giving ma4 some more life
i have a 5700x3d and very happy and gave my daughter my 5600x
I got a Ryzen R7 7700 on Ali Express for $198. My local pricing is around $435 lol! It clocks so well that I would dare to say it seems to be a silicon winner :D
My brother just upgraded his 5700g he got during the gpu pandemic to the 5700x3d and 7800XT. I'm taking his old apu and putting it in an htpc for my girlfriend. I love am4 and was rocking a 3700x until I finally got the 7800x3d a few months back.
differences in perfs comes to different bios revisions and/or windows versions
check the video named "Windows 11 bride vos performances oui. Mais pas que lui" from french youtuber "VCG"
graphs are easily understandable for non-french speakers
BTW he makes an amazing job, best french tech channel so far
i just picked one up and loving it
I just installed this on an old AM4 MB. Added 32 Ram to the existing 16 and a 4060 graphics card. Got it for $209, but it came with a 1TB nvme card. I was going to buy a 1TB SSD, so instead bought a $8 pci card to put it in. I already had a nvme card with the OS on it, so I wasn't going to replace it. Added a $17 cpu cooler and was in for about $625 total. Was going to get a new AM5 setup, but it would have cost about $900. It would have been better, but for my needs, probably not worth the extra cost. Plus I was hoping it would be easy to upgrade since I didn't have to swap a MB. Sadly, it turns out I had to remove the MB to add the CPU cooler, so would have just as easy to swap in a new MB.
Got a 5900x now I'm not planning to replace anytime soon.. but a 5900X3D some day would be *VERY* much appreciated 😊
Yeah, I think many will be buying the 5700X3D to push an existing build. I replaced a 5600 with the 5700X3D and it was a nice jump in performance. I imagine the guys going from a 3600 or so would be really happy.
I'm on vacation and still stopped to watch this video this chip is an absolute banger will be amazing.
Owing an AM4 platform is rather implied when looking at the cost. Not if i should buy a whole new system based on AM4 or AM5. That is 100% the intended target consumer. As it was when i got my 5800X3D. Still really happy.
As someone with a 5700g with a defective controller that fights with the dgpu if the igpu is enabled, and prevents it from using the shared system memory leading to BSODs, on top of the intentional limit to PCIe 3.0 it has, I could benefit from getting a 5700x3d considerably.
got a ryzen 9 3900x in the main rig, and ryzen 5 2600 in my at home server. with no plans to upgrade any time soon.
My 2700x was laid to rest this years, the 5700x3d has been sitting in uts throne ever since. 💸
OOOOOOH AHHHHHHH JUIS IN TIME FOR MY NEW BUILD OH YEA
The 5700X3D came out around a month after I bought my 5800X3D. Price difference is annoying but as with my 4790K - it will only be upgraded from when my videocard is no longer the bottleneck.
What I don't understand are people who don't already have an AM4 motherboard, buying into the older 3d chips...
I mean, when buying new, a 7600x is actually much better value (at least in Germany).
Well if you buy the 7600x you would also need to buy a AM5 motherboard and some DDR5 ram to go with it, a whole platform upgrade!
@@pooley3l33t Thats why he specified not having and AM4 mobo.
I dont get it either, I mean sure if you can snag it for a good deal and are limited on budget otherwise AM5 (even after the terrible 9000 series) makes more sense.
@@t1e6x12 In my country at least DDR5 ram is very expensive
@@t1e6x12 I misread his post my mistake..
I slightly regret not going with am4 because of the socket of am5 requiring so much precision for the cpu install. I bent some pins and had to unbend them with a broken toothpick and a dental tool. It seemed alright afterwards even with a loose pin-cap. The am4 install seems a lot easier and a better guarantee of non-bent pins once it's inside.
I don't think you should overclock these processors, even if it's easy. Most people do not overclock their processors but use the default settings.
The regional thing is 100% true. In Brazil youll pay almost half for a great AM4 build in comparison with a good AM5 build.
Those AliExpress 5700x3D's are god-tier value for money. £120 for this monster
I can understand why AMD keep the AM4 socket alive. If there's any way for them to maintain market share, albeit on an older socket, its a no brainer. Especially since AMD isn't forking out new silicon that could have gone to am5 chips, its more likely that the 5700x3D is just underperforming 5800x3D chips. Plus, for under 200 dollars, its a KILLER upgrade coming from 1st, 2nd and even 3rd gen Ryzen
5700x3d is 200 CAD in Canada right now insane steal
Been an Intel guy since the days of the 8088 CPU. Started building my own PC's in 1985. I got rid of all my AMD AM4 stuff and went back to Intel. My 12th gen CPU's will last me another 10+ years. Still have a working system running an i7-3770, 16GB DDR3-1600 ram and a GTX 1650 Super. Don't need AMD anymore.
This rocking techno soundtrack is epic 😅
I got my 7500F from aliexpress for £116 including tax and I'm very happy with the performance. The 7700 is an even better bargain as it's about £100 less than uk prices after tax if you need more cores. I got the 7500F to get me onto am5 and will save up for a 7800x3d or wait a while and see how new chips go next year.
3700x to 5700x3d for 180€, not a bad deal. Will keep my 1% lows good for the next 2-4 years
Cant wait for AM7 is never dying at like, 2189 or whatever
My OLED is a 120hz panel so my 5800x3D has some more years in the config since most games are GPU limited at 4k120hz.