Pregnant Dad: Giving Birth As A Transgender Man | Sex Map of Britain
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Dorian has been living as a trans man for 3 years. But now he wants a baby. Cameras follow Dorian to see if it will be as simple as he hopes to be a pregnant dad?
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I feel they got unnecessary offended when she said a labouring woman. The look they gave her. She made a mistake, she's used to dealing with pregnant women give her a break. At least she's trying.
Of course she is used to dealing with pregnant women as only a female body can get pregnant.
Bloodrocuted Death -right at least she did not keep saying the mistake over and over agin
Bloodrocuted Death exactly!
Bloodrocuted Death Any woman who can't deal with the fact that she is a woman shouldn't be giving birth, lol.
Bloodrocuted Death exactly what I said. His partner snapped at the nurse
How can you not misgender him, even though he has long hair, a feminine voice, has feminine features including breasts and is pregnant??? People forget that your exterior appearance represents your sexual organs, hence the assumption of gender. Honestly, don’t get on at people for human error.
Phukit it's not an "assumption" gender is biological it's a species specific term for sex.
Also he has sex like a girl to be pregnant.
I would’ve assumed they were a lesbian couple as opposed to “men” .. am I to be punished for that ?
Gender is indeed unchangeable. Being injected the opposite genders hormone as well as surgeries and other methods can indeed cover up the original gender, but it does not change the biological gender.
Now why is transgender even a thing, well it's because of norms buil into the society. Specifally transgender people are people who psychologically does not feel part of their natural assigned norms. Is it a real thing even? Clearly it is. Do we have any rights to restrict these people from fulfilling their wishes? Absolutely not. Now shut up with your old fashioned conservative statements, you as well as everyone else were the ones to create norms.
Absolutely not! As a ftm myself, I will admit I have incredibly feminine features that I am working on in the early parts of my transition. I also intend to one day have a child like this, and it's absolutely okay for you to assume someone's pronouns and gender upon meeting them based on how they present. If they correct you on their pronouns or name, though, please at least TRY to respect it. :)
if you walk around as a pregnant woman, you can’t expect people to call you he/him and that’s the tea
Jeongin!
He ain't walking around as a pregnant woman tho
HannahSoPe, well he isn't a male by sex so yes he is a pregnant WOMEN. Gender is in the mind. Your sex is biological. He is a women and even he knows that.
fenrif what? Lol
keep letting them confuse you. It's splitting hairs to separate gender and sex like that.
Wouldn’t it be awkward if the baby eventually comes out to his parents as not a
Les Miserables fan?
IT'S BREASTFEEDING!! NOT CHESTFEEDING. Both males and females has breast. Smfh.
Gemini Taylor degrading to woman
Excuse me? I prefer to call them tits you bigot 😤😤😤😤
I prefer the more pc term, Moobs.
Ikr
Men don’t breast LMAO
How do you expect strangers to know he want to be a man & is walking around pregnant and still look like a woman
Pashe Yvonne ikr
Pashe Yvonne so true
Pashe Yvonne its not wanting to be a man... He is a man born in the wrong body
Ella W I know that
Pashe Yvonne so why u saying he "wants" to be a man when he us one??
I'm so stoned right now and it took me a good while to understand what tf was going on
It's confusing even when your not stoned.
Sad but funny . I'm sure that was trippy.
Miriam Sulaiman same
LOL
Miriam Sulaiman IM shook
I'm gonna be completely honest. I have nothing against someone being transgender at all. As long as your happy then go you but he doesnt seem transgender to me. I hate to say this but he comes off as confused,
SHE not HE
@@deniseg-hill1730 No, even if you dont believe that he is he, you need to respect his preferred pronouns.
@@brianna9778
Sorry don't agree. This is GD.
@@scubanator3990
I didn't you must be replying to someone else's comment who criticised my comment. SHE IS A WOMAN and It's gender dysphoria. They are 2 women (lesbians)
@@scubanator3990
Not likely, g/dysphoria seems to be increasing these days amongst the lefty Feminazi SJW brigade.
He looks/sounds like a woman. How am i supposed to know that he identifies as a trans man?
That is true, I have 0 issue being told to use certain pronouns, I will always remember and never slip up - but if you don't present yourself clearly either way you will be mis-gendered and can't really expect people straight away without being told, I have 2 friends one male one female and they both look like the opposite and they get mis-gendered often so it's not just a trans issue (they both roll with it and we all use incorrect pronouns for them so we aren't helping matters)
Well, the title might be one clear indication. Secondly, people don't just expect you to know. They'll correct you as needed, all they want is for you to accept this and use the pronouns they ask for.
Notoriously Gaming and i did use the correct pronouns to address him in my comment. All i am saying that him expecting everyone to know that he identifies as a trans man while he looks like a woman is wrong on his part
Sohani Yadav He doesn't expect it! He doesn't expect he people to know, he just wants them to RESPECT him when he asks them to use the correct pronouns.
she doesnt even want to be in a hospital because people wont know, so shes not even willing to correct someone.
Not a single tear lol this is so off. I support trans completely, but all I see is a lesbian couple, they are more concerned with the pronouns than anything else. Sorry
I have to agree with you. It's sad really. I am all for being yourself and being happy but, this is quite different. I fully agree about seeing a lesbian couple that is simply worried about pronouns. I wouldnt be surprised if this is more of a phase due to the age.
support trans? wrong.
you don’t support trans people.
“Dorian uses the term chestfeeding”
C49S no u didn’t
They are exhausting
@@aliyamoon80 as a leftist... I agree, doesn't change a shit
imagine telling a doctor whos studied medicine for years 'i know im pregnant but could you please respect my pronouns'
Breastfeeding is "chestfeeding".
"OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE RANDOM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AREN'T MEETING OUR EXPECTATIONS WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW THEM!"
Sinead Heard perhaps he knows that people will assume one way or another and it’s just hard for him to know that people won’t see him as a man. It’s frustrating, but he knows he couldn’t do anything about it.
She is not a man she is a woman and always will be. No matter what she thinks she is a woman.
@@elenagibbons4719 Her not him fool
I'm surprised anyone puts up with them, they sound like they think the whole world just revolves around them
MajesticHobbit facts
So basically, all new parents
exactly
Oh yes
It doesn’t but this video is ABOUT THEM. It’s like having your own birthday party and everyone says happy birthday to your mum instead.
Damn, even as a trans person myself, these people are extremely obsessed with labels, even if they aren't 100% presenting as their gender. I can understand that, yes, medically, there's a mother. That's literally a legal, medical document. Some things, such as certain genetic conditions, are carried only by the mother and that's sort of important information to have. No different than saying your legal sex is whatever you're born with if you haven't made any changes to your physical sex characteristics. It makes it easier for the system, legal, health, or otherwise, to provide proper care and accommodations for what equipment you do have. I doubt that either of them need prostate exams any time soon.
It doesn't mean you can't tell your son to call you "dad" or have him call you whatever you want. Hell, I know a nonbinary person who has their kid call them "Neeby". Being trans isn't so much of an outside thing as it is an inside thing. If this person was confident enough in their identity and knows it true to be within himself that he's a man, and was in better touch with, oh I don't know, 99.7% of the population, they probably wouldn't be throwing such a huge fit about it. I know trans guys who get misgendered and they just brush it off like nothing or politely correct the person, because they're aware that they are men, despite lacking the Y chromosome, and they usually put in a lot of effort to present as such. Long hair is usually a no-go for most, especially pre-T, just because even cis men get misgendered for lengthy locks. But, you know, if there's no kicking and screaming, it's not really something worth making a 23 minute long video about.
Having a child and starting a family, male or female, should be a positive thing, something exciting. You're making that commitment with your partner to be together and raise an infant that you can proudly call your own. It shouldn't be about "wahh, the nurse I'm probably only going to know for a day or two called me a 'mother' instead of a father, even though I look undeniably female and literally just had an infant pulled out of my undeniably female reproductive system, why is society so stuck on gender norms" or feeling invalidated by people who really don't matter when it's all said and done.
This feels less about the infant than it is about them, and I find this a lot in people who are self-centered and all about only fulfilling their needs.
Anyways, thank you for coming to my TEDtalk.
Suspect Ink preach
Ily
Thank you for that truth
Suspect Ink well said!
I am not trans but I have a lot of understanding when it comes to transgenders. Men especially as my housemate and best friend has explained so much to me. God he’s even thrown his (clean) packer at me 😂🤦🏻♀️.
It annoyed me a little when they were talking to the midwife and she said “pregnant women.” She obvs did not mean any insult or anything by it.
Biologically he is a woman and unfortunately, pregnant trans men are few and far between. This is not the norm at this time so unfortunately people would trip up calling him she. I think it’s amazing that he’s shared his journey with the nation and world. I just feel that the midwifes have a lot of understanding in regards to his sex however, are going to make mistakes.
Also, if it is down in his notes that he identifies as a man then shouldn’t he have a bit more trust in our healthcare system. They would not call him, she on purpose. As even if they called him she accidentally he would be, well within his right report them and getting compensation for this transgression.
Please correct me if I’m wrong as I don’t want to seem ignorant.
imagine ONLY having a homebirth because you don’t want to be referred to as the wrong pronoun...
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
IKR?
a lot of people have home births for very simple reasons. it's fine as long as it's safe.
It’s a fair enough reason. It can be very triggering and cause unnecessary stress during birth if he was misgendered
the wrong pronoun is extremely triggering. especially if you're experiencing body dysmorphia. and anyone can have a home birth. there's nothing wrong with it??
Emma Lucy omg can the self-obsession get any bigger with these two??? Deal with it 🙄
The paintings his mother created! Good grief they are beautifully amazing!
her*
julio no its him not her
Flower Child wrong. if someone is able to get pregnant, that's a female.
julio they may not want to identify as female though
Flower Child I don't give a rat's ass what someone "wants" to identify as, if you're a woman, you're a woman and vice versa. you can't change biology.
as a trans Male this seems a tad off...
Same
Same here bro.
Lmao. Your comment is like a schizopherenic saying there's something wrong with the mentally retarded person. You're both screwed in the head.
They just want a family...then they will turn into men
I'm 18 and pre-t, if I was having conversation with that person I'll use the correct pronouns and address them as male. But if I didn't know them and use wrong pronouns, do they have the right to get mad at me? I'm closeted and only my friends know that I'm ftm. When they use the wrong pronouns I don't give a fuck, we even joke about it
Wanting a whole hospital to larp along with you by calling you he/him whilst they try to deliver your child successfully. The absolute state of the 21st century. Whew lad
Sesh Gremlin they expect everyone to adjust for them..really sucks..😳
Its ridiculous.
Because using someone's correct pronouns is such an unreasonable expectation compared to such things as using their right name.
>Wanting the whole world to join in with your LARP just so your feelings don't get hurt
Living in reality just isn't some people's strong suit, is it?
theyre incorrect pronouns
CHESTFEEDING 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀 I’m done
George Williams 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
George Williams same hahaha
Lol
Show some respect!! Rude much!!
@@rowanaembers4929 You can't show respect to someone that has lost their mind and thinks their a gender that they are obviously not
I support the trans community but their relationship is very immature.
They seem very confused
Why is he acting like people aren’t gonna assume that he’s a woman when he has a feminine voice and is pregnant
So someone doesn't like their female body or being womanly, but chooses to become pregnant. Surely someone genuinely wanting to be a male would be repulsed by the idea of carrying a child?
If giving birth to a child gives dysphoria, I find it hard to believe that wouldn't negatively impact the child growing up.
This is as irresponsible as having a kid whilst infected with HIV.
this comment literally took years off my life
@@searows-music Conversely, it added to mine. Thank you for my newfound longevity!
This couple clearly still have some growing up to do themselves and need to address their own insecurities as adults and as transgender people. Just wondering whether starting with having baby was the right order of things for their own happiness ... Anyway, hope they'll manage to figure things out.
In this case, I don't think they had much of a choice. It would definitely have been riskier to be pregnant after being on HRT, and in any case the timing of the HRT didn't work well for Dorian when combined with when he wanted to have a family. I think they and the child will be okay, although the parents both have a lot of psychological work to do for themselves. I think Dorian will feel much better once his transition is well underway and the dysphoria gets less intense.
I pushed play and IMMEDIATELY went to the comment section 😆
Nicole M same 😭
Same
I didn’t see any male Mentality in either of them .
you mean like misogyny?
God I love Dorian’s mum’s art
chest feeding?? men have breast too ya know.... really just trying too hard to be different
Tisha W. yes men have pectorals but not breasts, they cannot produce milk unless they are transgender and we’re originally a female.
^ *were
lanie contact actually that is completely false men have experienced sympathy beast feeding experience where they actually produce milk once the mother gives birth
Alexis Childs yes but it’s not natural breastfeeding seen as it called ‘sympathy feeding’
lanie contact But there's some kind of disease that makes the affected male produce breast milk.
All i see is 2 lesbians confused on what exactly they wanna be. Yikes.
Im.so confused!
You can’t be saying that they are both men and they ask us viewers to respect that. They also ask us to respect their choice on how they live their life. Don’t be homophobic
Tbh as a transgender person this really really erks me the wrong way.
Fletcher Yandere
ugh me too tbh
So they're both trans men??? So now they are gay men... ok and they expect us to understand and get this right... the poor child will be so confused as i am
Shay Rashad or perhaps the child will understand because he grows up with it? Like families that have divorces parents and step siblings and all that, they’re confusing to the outside person but the majority of time the people actually IN the situation understand it.
@@elenagibbons4719 well at the end of the day shes a woman, men CAN'T have menstrual cycles, men CAN'T have babies, men CANT breast feed... So with that being said this poor child will go to school and say... my dad birthed me, the child might except it but as far as understanding it i dont think so... this is hard for anyone to understand, if i wanna say im a lion doesn't make it so, and i CAN'T force someone to believe i am just because of the way i feel
You’re so right I pray for this child. The child will grow up in a world of delusions with two narcissistic lesbian parents. 🤦🏽♂️
My biggest question is "he" had to of had a dick shoved inside him to get pregnant. Why would you want vaginal sex if your a man. Gay men have butt sex...??
@@shaybae85625 omg...so different
“It is very important for *myyyyy* emotional health...”
Becoming a mother revolves entirely around you putting your child’s needs first. Not yours. How will all of this affect a child growing up? How will this child affectively navigate his or her world with such a confusing beginning? Regardless of how you feel about the subject, a child going into school with two transgender fathers is going to inevitably feel different and ostracized. That’s not even taking into account how mean kids are and how society is only starting to accept transgender as a thing recently. Poor kid is gonna have a hard time ahead of him because his or her parents want to make them a pawn in their political feelings.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@NKatz well, good thing hes not a mother
Preach
"Oh no i completely understand here's £100 go buy yourself a suit"
I already love the grandparents 😂
+
his mum seems like a sweet person and her art is sooo beautiful
When they were registering the birth what were they honestly expecting?
chockycake1 some common human decency, hopefully. But even in the video Dorians husband says that they didn't say anything he wasn't expecting, he was just probably hoping for the best.
Cory Sauers common decency? Identifying as something you aren’t does not run in families. The baby has a penis. The baby is a boy. Was that hard? Not at all.
“Lack of awareness of me being a man”
If you look like a woman then people will call you a woman 🤷🏻♀️
It seems like in this society being who you ARE is the most revolutionary act.
This is some dope ass quote =D
This person is not transgender. She simply identifies as a man. But she is simply a women. She has a vagina, she is pregnant...CONGRATS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, it’s a woman.
people's genitals and their gender identity are two completely different things
Just because she is physically a woman doesnt mean that you say "she". if you have an onion ring in a box of fries it wont be a frie. it is still an onion ring. My friends name is Carolin and she gets really angry if somebody says Caroline or Carolina because thats not her name. And mean while people get angry if their name is spelled wrong transgender people get angry if the pronoun is wrong. Because its not who they are.
Mara Vadis yeah no, you’re comment makes no sense to me. I don’t mean to be starting an argument- I might just be having a stupid day and that’s why I don’t really understand your whole thing but oh well.
I think the most upsetting this about this whole ordeal is how selfish these people are. Literally all they care about is labeling them correctly and people using the correct pronouns, and frankly, it's really petty. I'm a straight dude, and if everyone suddenly started referring to me as a lesbian girl, I wouldn't give two fucks about it.
They're selfish to the point where they'd rather deliver the baby at home, just because in the hospital, someone might mispronounce them. Like, who gives a fuck? You're about to have a baby, your top priority should be safety and well being of the baby, yet you're willing to sacrifice all that just so YOU feel safe, and nobody says she instead of a he. Talk about privilege.
Update (i used to follow both of them):
They split up, Dorian now identifies as a woman, she is engaged to another woman and is attending law school. I'm not sure how Alex identifies now, but now he/she went back to the USA with the child, being the main caretaker of Julian. The kiddo sadly has leukemia but luckily the therapy seems to be going well. It doesn't seem they are in amicable terms from their socials.
What are their socials?
Hi what are their socials please?
If he feels so much better when he's cosplaying because of the beard and clothes, then why not just wear all that 100% of the time?
Zander Foster most of us trans men do....
that is all she is doing anyway
Because it isn’t real. Like to smoke pots can make people feel happy and release and get rid of their broken life, but it isn’t real at end of the day.
How dare you try to impose your opinions on others? We are all entitled to do whatever we like whenever we like! Btw I'm being sarcastic :)
* She
I’m really sorry this may come off as rude but I’m not trying to be disrespectful but.... CHESTFEEDING??! 🤣
Never heard of this one😂
Props to them tho 👏🏾🎉
Antonia Capella Borges why "props" ? what they are saying is ridiculous and nonsensical...
She's a woman... She's an adult female human being... That's all a woman is, doesn't matter what she wants to "identify" as..
Lord Freeza
You are horrid for saying that
They do not effect you if someone wants to identify as another gender let them 😡👿
Lucy Thomas exactly thank you for speaking up 👏🏾 tell’em Auntie Lucy!
Lord Freeza because whatever your beliefs are they are our fellow humans comrades and deserve respect. Plus they just had a baby so congratulations are the most basic of things
Antonia Capella Borges how is it disrespect?
Respecting your fellow human beings doesn't mean accepting everything they say as true regardless of reality..
If a white person "identified" as black would it be disrespectful to point out they aren't??
I am not saying they can't "identify as a Man" whatever that even means, but they don't have the right to demand everyone else pretend along with them..
A woman is an adult female human being, they are all three of these things so how is saying that they are a woman disrespectful???
It’s one of the best publicly posted documentary type things that I’ve watched. It was so refreshing how nice, accurate, and clarifying it was to the experience and nothing was offensive or anything which is a first. It’s hard to kinda “represent” but it’s genuinely something I think people have needed to see for ages.
Also: These guys are bloody fantastic people and I’m proud to be their friend.
I've been following Dorian for years on tumblr and vine, but seeing him like this, it's a reminder how strong he and alex are. Honestly he's living his truth and that's great.
she
Too bad it’s not the truth
@@b115-v9q He's a he, go be hateful somewhere else
@@biggaydave5905 Don't call yourself an LGBTQueen if you don't support trans people hun, it's in the title
You mean she
All the best of luck to both the fathers, Julian is beautiful and it sucks that they had to go through so much shit to have him
James Mertens Ya mean mom and dad?
Joseph Joestar No, they mean dad and dad.
Joseph Joestar There's two fathers
ÖRLOGSKAPTEN #MAKEUA-camGREATAGAIN No, it's a GIRL and a BOY.
Joseph Joestar NO TWO FATHERS
I follow y'all on tumblr, it's so cool hearing your voices and watching this knowing now how everything turned out -- when it said 'dorian wants a homebirth' i had like war flashbacks to when you were posting 'homebirths gone tits up', also alex saying "i didn't like my first puberty dont know if i'll like my second" is such a mood
hey can you share their tumblr with me? I'm trying really hard to remember their usernames cause I used to follow them but I forgot.
look if u wanna send hate don't bother they're gonna be on hiatus til the commotion dies down
They’re both so great!
What are their tumblrs?
I’m not gonna give you their tumblrs just so you can send them hate lmao
They look like handsome elven kings such beautiful curly hair
he's not a she
Awe I love his grandparents. They are adorable 💕
So confused lesbians???
exactly
I don't know what they were expecting ! They both didn't change legaly their gender so wtf
And the way he corrected that lady like wtf so rude
Okay it's great to see some change but have some manners or respect
Karla Wo he felt uncomfortable by it, it's always better to correct the person, so that they learn rather than sit in silence and be uncomfortable
Karla well how would u like to be called a man..
Ella W considering the fact that I am one, yes I would like it
Yeah i know i try to understand their prospective but i felt like he was a little bit hostile
I feel like it's incredibly rude to call someone who has expressed that they are a man a woman. If someone kept calling you a different name would you consider it rude to correct them?
Kids first word: MOMMY!!
*TRIGGERED*
That poor kid is going to be confused
i know he did not just come for beyonce like that
I only feel bad for the baby if it turns out that he doesn’t like Les Miserables
Wow I was so surprised to see you guys! I've been following Dorian and Alex on tumblr for years, and they're great people and great parents. (Also great cosplayers I mean Les Mis goals right there) I am so glad they get to share their story. You go Dorian! Keep being proud and wonderful xxxx
IlastarothTayre hi can I ask a favour? What’s their tumblr name? I wanna follow them 😭 xx
Ferne Bryan sure! They're "enjoloras" and "softgrantaire" if I'm not mistaken 👌
What is their tumblr??
Holy crap I recognize those tumblr names! I think I might of been following them for years too. God thats so crazy to actually see what they are like in a documentary
Eliza M Leai right? I clicked on the video because I'm subscribed and I was interested and I was like "...Dorian? That's Dorian. That's Enjolras! And his Grantaire Alex! My boys" it's nice to see them outside of the site, they seem like truly interesting people
Feel bad for that baby
good thing you are an adult who still comments on youtube videos and thinks there are only two genders then!
@@searows-music I'm ashamed to be a Mia now tanks 😉. Look if they wanna be immature like this fine, but the baby doesn't deserve this. If you don't see a problem w Dorian and Alex then somethings off w you...
do yourself a favor and stay out of the comments section on this one
Lisa Rodjer really tho 😂
The Truth if you think its truth, you are either ignorant or just stupid. he is a man. thats a fact. gender is a psychological concept, made up by humans. your sex is a scientific and biological fact. just because hes not biologically a male doesnt mean hes not a man.
Too late. Your comment was WAYYYY down there.
Lisa Rodjer i saw this too late
Nooooooooooooooooooooiooo
I wish this comment was further up I already want to jump off a cliff at all the transphobes
I really admire all of your strength going through this. You choosing to be public with the process is going to give a lot of relief to other transgender people who are in the same position of wanting a family but not knowing if they can go through with it. Congratulations for the birth and health of your son and good luck on your future hormone treatments. You will always have people who support you.
Cole Marie what strength? A soldier, fireman, medic, policeman and etc have strength. Seems to me everyone wants to celebrate every minuscule thing that someone else does in their actions
toOmoide no I don't understand, because you know what they're greater things in this world that need the attention but instead we blow smoke up people's asses such as this example
ricardo rocha Agreed. This vid is completely asinine. WOMEN get pregnant, give birth and BREASTfeed. You can't completely disassociate yourself from your womanhood so much so that you HATE a feminine picture in your likeness....but then turn around and fully take advantage of the opportunity to live femininity in its peak essence by giving birth AND going so far as to breastfeed (all whole changing the name to suit your own agenda). And to add insult to injury- feel a way about not being called a man! 🤦As women, we are life-givers.... If you want to be a life-maker, then adopt, as pregnancy and all that it entails is completely the DEFINITION of femininity and being a woman. It's what separates us from our male counterparts.
Again... No judgements here. I merely pointed out the irony. 🤷
ricardo rocha Oh fuck off.
My biggest question: Is Alex American? His accent is like a big mix between English and American
She says, "Hey, I'm American" at 15:50
Priscilla P. He*
ADOPTION!?!? HELLOOOO
It took me 16 minutes in to realized that Alex was American 😆
Danielle Johnson i realized it at the end when he was on the phone 😂😂
All the best to the fathers and the cute little Julian. I wish them all the best and that Dorians plans about transition work out ❤️ I would love to have an update at one point
Delaney Tatarka what are the bolgs called?
It's probably best not to put their blog URLs in these comments because they get enough hate as it is, but they're not hard to find on Tumblr if you search for the right things.
They’re both so happy and lovely! I hope they have a wonderful time being dads! Much love to Alex and Dorian - as well as love to little Julian
Uhmm Im so confused 🙄😑 I dont see a transgender man? *clickbait*
What's the point in calling it chest feeding if males have breast?
THANK YOUU i was like...men have breast too. I just feel this individual hates women as a whole
The level of self indulgence is astounding
they could have just adopted. you wouldnt have had to pause transitioning at all my dude. think before you act and it wouldnt be as painful
I'm all for living your truth but they seem very selfish in my opinion and I did not see them talk about the health of their baby or anything etc or consider how they're decisions will make life harder for him and just think about themselves for example the birth certificate. I hope they learn to put their son first
Wow that mom is a amazing artist
When the midwife said " if you give pain meds to laboring women they'll take it" she was referring to other pregnant women not him . They both made the midwife feel like she misgendered him but she didn't. And honestly even though I respect everyone and their choices but I too wudve definitely thought he's a female just by the looks
18:06
Men bring the milk from the shop, men don't let baby suck there nipples.
It's wont change anything called it chest because still producing milk.
Amjad AL-musawi Just so you know, male humans can produce milk if they take hormones to induce it, because they actually have mammary glands in their chests. So yes, a man can produce milk, and have breast cancer too.
Kura-chan that's weird.
I’m so in Love with Lindas art!
It's unfortunate that we've created a society where people can live in such delusion. It's absurd the lengths their going to, just to called something their not. Completely absurd, but sadly true.
This is a woman.
Woman is a Man! Get used to it already!
@@samtab18sjh65 wait male or female idk dont get it
@@samtab18sjh65 Wrong dumbass it's a woman stop being stupid and have some goddamn sense
I see a lot of comments complaining that he hasn't transitioned at all, but he actually has since having the baby. Both of them have.
Good.
How do u no
@@thebigbookofsketchesshowin8816 They said in the video
That's fantastic so now he's transgender. Identifying as Male & being transgender are two seperate things
Not true. Got look at their Instagram.
This isn’t trans. Idk what this is.
thats trans babe!
Mia Duckart how can men get pregnant?
At 7:42 the cat looks as confused as I am feeling.
WHOS THE SEED?
About Ten Pandas It’s more than likely a donor from a sperm bank.
6:50 The look on Alex's face, I thought he was gonna swing for the midwife 😲
You mean she
@@paddycrawford7206 nah he, dorians husband
Alex looks female too
Couldn't they just adopt? If they hate the idea of pregnancy so much... :/ I mean, that is what 2 biological men would do in that situation, right?
Adoption is a much more complicated and protracted process. Not to mention that it can get incredibly expensive.
Nancy Hanna it's because they don't really have a "male brain"
Just One Time that's not necessarily true. There's just something about bearing your own children that some people long for. "Biological" or cis men simply don't give birth because they don't have the means to, but I bet if they did there would be a larger percentage of men having their own children.
Cory Sauers fair point that men may want to give birth if it were possible! though I still don't believe the whole "male brain in a female body" thing.
Yeah, but they aren't biologically men (yet). One of the main points of having children is to carry on your genetic line, and they were able to whilst dictating all the habits of the baby maker and literally how healthy the baby was during the pregnancy. Straight couples can adopt too, but it's less common. Gay couples can also have surrogate mothers carry their children. Hell, any couple can get a tube to make them a baby. Biology is great.
Mom: You good?
Me: Yeah just at the wrong side of UA-cam again
Mom: Okay
Me:Continues to throw up
Mom: Dials 911
But she IS the child’s mother. Or he, whatever. The person who carries and gives birth to the child is the mother. The father is the person who produced the sperm. It’s just ludicrous for the person who gave birth to want to be called the father on the birth certificate.
Right? Like biologically, they are the child's mother while relationship-wise he'll be one of the dads.
Then cut your hair short dude. I'm thinking a lot less people would mistake your for a girl if you made yourself look less LIKE a girl. I mean, I'm a straight guy with long hair, and people mistake me for a girl from behind sometimes, but I don't blame them for it. I choose to have long-hair. I can't help others perceptions.
yet, we dont choose to be born in the wrong body.
Im a man. And guess what. I cant be pregnant... Lol
That's because Dorian has a female reproductive system and is capable of being pregnant, but identifies as a man (which he has every right to express). And even if you could get pregnant, no one would want to get close enough to you to allow that to happen, sorry.
Try with me
Apparently gender stereotypes make you the opposite sex, who knew.
i really love their opinion on the way they're not going to force their child into picking its own gender
Brittany Wyatt Exactly. Of course it's impotant not to force your child into those dumb genderroles like "boys like cars, girls like ponys", but really, all the complications of using gender-neutral terms are unnecessary... and besides all kinds of trans-people beeing like "transidentity is quite common", it's not. I'm trans myself and I know, it's more common than you might think, but it's still a rare thing and it's easier for the child to go by genderspecific terms as long as they are comfortable with it. I mean, as the son of two trans-men he'll automatically think about his gender. In fact, any child of people who might think about using neutral terms will be brought up knowing about LGBT+, making it easier to figure out what may be wrong and getting help if their in need of it.
fox_in _xxs_clothes Is it possible, that you've missed something? :)
They are not forcing their child into questioning his gender by using male (!) pronouns as long as he is comfortable with it
fox_in _xxs_clothes I'm starting to think you don't want to understand what I'm trying to say and I won't bother explaining again
“Weirdest pregnancy announcement known to man”. Lol
I don't know why the comment section's so hostile, I'm sorry for it. But you guys are amazing! I can't imagine how it feels to get through all that with dysphoria. But I'm happy for you for the baby, I wish your family live a happy life
The truth always hurts. I rather live my life as the truth than live a lie. If you are born a man than you will always be a man and if you are born a girl than you will always be a girl. That’s why she gets upset being called a girl because she knows it’s the truth.
you two are absolutely incredible! and your baby is so cute
I love when he said "my 86 year old blind grandma can get it why can't other people". So true!
so you're a woman and you're pregnant, but, hey, you get offended if people refer to you as female and a mother. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
They may consider their selves a "same sex couple". I respect that and it's great and all. But at the end of the day, the "pregnant dad", is still the "genetical and legal mother". That's just how it is. 1+1=2 and the pregnant dad is a mother from a scientific point of view.
The rest, social opinion, etc, I couldn't care any less unless it causes a major issue. Which it doesn't.
This is a great video! It made me really emotional and I'm so happy for both dads and I wish them all the best raising their beautiful child
Robin Anton They came across as patronising and arrogant. Not surprising...
Wtf is this bull crap we need to sort out this world
R0UG the mother doesn't to. Seem quite the ticket as we say in the UK!!
HE said 'we have to do mother-and-son-stuff now' during the prep for the shower - but he chastises anyone who uses 'mother' or 'she' as a term to describe him with???
Because her, sorry his, mother is cisgender and still identifies as a woman. He is using his female body to give birth but prefers to be called a father. Hence why his/her Mum used 'son' rather than daughter.
I wonder why they didn't just adopt
Bojangle Dorlyp because they wanted to carry
Adoption is not a replacement for having biological children. You have to be ready to deal with a traumatised child, meet a million other requirements and the competition in developed countries is fierce. If you go international you'll also be spending tens of thousands (dollars, euros, pounds, whatever). So it's not an option for many if not most people.
oh, yeah i guess thats tru
niwa s stupid, you could save a child, who the fuck cares if it’s biological or not? If you want a child that badly then you should adopt.
Neither of them even ATTEMPTING to bind?? Cool... Just had to check.
That's the most idiotic thing I think I've ever heard or seen
Not everyone can bind. It hurts (and some people have back issues) and good/effective binders are expensive. Plus one is pregnant, and it just isn't practical.
*goes through reporting the comments jesus christ @ humanity* but what a wonderful family! I wish them all the best for the future!
Marvin's Square Tie Good to know you’re policing everyone. I’m sure you’re very well qualified and it’s important that nobody ever disagrees with the group think.
Chicot The Jester There's a difference to opinions and being extremely transphobic. People don't need to see transphobic comments.
ÖRLOGSKAPTEN #MAKEUA-camGREATAGAIN Well I’m glad you’re around to decide that for them. Who needs free speech when people like you can decide our views for us.
Chicot The Jester If someone is saying vulgar rude comments about this lovely family I wouldn't want possible 12 year olds from seeing it. There's a reason for the report button...
ÖRLOGSKAPTEN #MAKEUA-camGREATAGAIN Yes it’s so people like you can thought police those who disagree with them. And feel self righteous while doing so. It’s amazing that you’re perfectly fine with teaching kids all the details of sexuality but not with them reading some mean comments.
god forbid someone should be raw and honest about the trans process and the complications of peoples narrow ideas of gender and sex. 2019 is about to be a painful year for those who cannot let go of ancient stereotypes, such as a man could never have long hair or be born biologically female.
Wrong on every level
More accurate title is...Woman gives birth
Has to go down as mother because you are
Bobby Blair fuck you he is a dad
2 cousins Tv Nah she’s a woman, she got pregnant and Guys can’t do that, btw I’m a transguy so don’t go arguing about shit you haven’t got a clue about. Return to tumblr asap.
Mum is an outstanding artist. I'm interested in purchasing some if these beautiful prints.
I LOVE THEIR COSPLAY SO MUCH OMG!! ❤❤❤ #enjoltaire
Naiim Absolute oh no, appreciation of an art form and a ship (!) How terrible (!)