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  • Could the home world of the Iron Hands chapter of the Adeptus Astartes be the site of an undiscovered Necron Tomb Complex?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 236

  • @maddlarkin
    @maddlarkin 3 роки тому +189

    It's really simple, if the glowy lights in the abandoned machine filled complexes are green, it's Necrons, if they're blue it's Men of Iron...

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 3 роки тому +35

      Either way you need a Two-Stage Cyclonic Torpedo to make sure they don't come back.

    • @paul-antonywhatshisface3954
      @paul-antonywhatshisface3954 3 роки тому +15

      *laughs in Nepherekh cerulean*

    • @phreakazoith2237
      @phreakazoith2237 3 роки тому +12

      if it lessons you about being fallible humans it is Men of Iron. If it impales or lasers you on the spot it's Necron.

    • @supremercommonder
      @supremercommonder 3 роки тому +2

      Where do we get information about men of iron have a blue glow?

    • @maddlarkin
      @maddlarkin 3 роки тому +8

      @@supremercommonder Gaunts Ghosts novel First and Only, when the Men of Iron woke the original non-chaos'ie ones eyes closed with a cold blue light

  • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
    @venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 роки тому +91

    Honestly, with Medusa’s proximity to the Eye of Terror, I could totally believe it being a Necron outpost in a similar vein to Cadia, with the Necron presence there in place to help contain the Eye.

    • @AGS363
      @AGS363 3 роки тому +13

      You mean "contain the Eldar". The Eye itself is to young.

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 3 роки тому +19

      @@AGS363 “contain the warp.” Now it applies to both.

    • @kofibrake
      @kofibrake 3 роки тому +3

      well spotted

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 роки тому +3

      @@AGS363 right, I don’t know why but I always forget the fall of the Eldar empire was after the necrons went to sleep

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 3 роки тому +1

      @@jordinagel1184 No, because the Eye was formed after the Fall. Before that, it was Cygnus X-1.

  • @ternel
    @ternel 3 роки тому +53

    Theory. The necrons did indeed have a tomb complex on the world of Medusa however it was destroyed during the dark age of technology when humanity was at its peak. However in order to eradicate this threat, the core of the planet was super charged to become techtonically unstable and thus destroy the underground complexes while mostly sparing the surface. This would explain how the natives knew of the long destroyed machines but also explain how some necron presence was still on the planet.

    • @jonathantheslow
      @jonathantheslow 3 роки тому +2

      That’s actually a really good theory.

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 3 роки тому

      Wouldn’t a tectonically unstable core really f*ck up the entire planet, and not just subterranean complexes?

    • @maddlarkin
      @maddlarkin 3 роки тому +1

      Great theory and well within the capabilities of Iron Men, I mean if they can bite a chasm in reality through the surface of a planet, they can do pretty much anything... hell to them clearing a slumbering Necron tomb by destabilising a planets molten core would be little more than routine pest control.

    • @stormsurge2103
      @stormsurge2103 3 роки тому +2

      @@jordinagel1184 Well, modern Medusa is a death world. . .

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 3 роки тому

      @@stormsurge2103 well, yes, but the OG made it sound as though tectonically destabilizing the planetary core would leave the surface mostly untouched, which I just don’t see happening

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment 3 роки тому +140

    "You are weak, Asirnoth." -Ferrus Manus, probably

    • @rohan0724
      @rohan0724 3 роки тому +1

      But he isn't made of flesh!

    • @Taistelukalkkuna
      @Taistelukalkkuna 3 роки тому +6

      "Shut up brainghost Ferrus. You are not a friend."

  • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
    @venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 роки тому +132

    We may not like to admit it, but we Iron Hands are in need of some lore love.

    • @kofibrake
      @kofibrake 3 роки тому +11

      Been a Space Wolf fan since the first edition of their codex, but in the last few years the cold inhumanity of the machine has taken over one of my hearts and I have been a dedicated Son of Ferrus. It happened after reading the first 5 books of the Horus Heresy novels.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 3 роки тому +18

      The Iron Hands get very little attention since their Primarch was the first to die.

    • @rohan0724
      @rohan0724 3 роки тому +3

      Tbh you're right, haven't seen a compelling Iron Hands novel in the last couple years

    • @evann5
      @evann5 3 роки тому

      Only GW would be like that, the Xth need a ton of more love, they are so cool and badass

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 роки тому

      @@kofibrake did you read Damnation of Pythos yet? Or the Shattered legions short stories?

  • @luckystranger4312
    @luckystranger4312 3 роки тому +79

    It looks like that the inquisition doesn't allow a good sleep schedule to our dear inquisitor

    • @PCveteran117
      @PCveteran117 3 роки тому +7

      Depends on the time zone and planet.

    • @pokejust7045
      @pokejust7045 3 роки тому +5

      To be fair, our Lord is a techpriest turned inquisitor.

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus 3 роки тому +2

      Wonder if he's gotten to the Vault by now? I wanna know what's in there!

  • @AlexGoldhill
    @AlexGoldhill 3 роки тому +32

    Alternative theory: Medusa was a Tomb World. Until the Iron Hands found out. Now it is an ex-Tomb World.

    • @phreakazoith2237
      @phreakazoith2237 3 роки тому +8

      Scrap metal! Spare parts! Finest scrap metal! Two for one! Best deals in town!

  • @Jon_the_Wizard
    @Jon_the_Wizard 3 роки тому +45

    I ask the same thing about Chogoris, but I'm one of those weird people who remembers the White Scars exist and are awesome.
    Seriously, more White Scars love when, GeeDubs?

    • @SultanFilm
      @SultanFilm 3 роки тому +2

      HH White Scar focused novels are among the best at the moment. Plus Battle of Terra should have a lot of White Scar fun.

  • @AbadonXXX
    @AbadonXXX 3 роки тому +73

    Could you imagine if during the fight that caused ferus to have his hands become what they are the necrons were able to get his dna which in turn gets acquired by trayzn?

    • @abelbabel8484
      @abelbabel8484 3 роки тому +3

      And what are they gonna do with it?

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 3 роки тому +12

      @@abelbabel8484 If Trazyn has it, then he would put it in a display. If a Cryptek Biomancer gets it, they might try to clone Ferrus Manus in order to give the Necrons a potential biological vessel.

    • @abelbabel8484
      @abelbabel8484 3 роки тому

      @@robertnelson9599 why would a Primarch be a better host or template than any random human?

    • @Hatchmatter
      @Hatchmatter 3 роки тому +5

      @@abelbabel8484 why would someone like LeBron James be a better candidate to be a perennial athlete as opposed to a regular human?

    • @abelbabel8484
      @abelbabel8484 3 роки тому +1

      @@Hatchmatter why would LeBron James be a better alien than any other human is the real question. Why would he?

  • @Motorius9000
    @Motorius9000 3 роки тому +27

    YES! New Iron Hands content to start the week..! Thank you 40kTheories!

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 роки тому +3

      That’s a vibe, brother. Nice to know we haven’t been forgotten every once and a while.

    • @BrenttFease
      @BrenttFease 3 роки тому

      @@venerablebrothergoriate5844 Don't get aHEAD of yourself. (Sorry, I'm an Emperor's Children player, I was morally obligated)

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 роки тому +2

      @@BrenttFease the Emperor’s Children don’t know the definition of the term “moral obligation.”

    • @BrenttFease
      @BrenttFease 3 роки тому

      @@venerablebrothergoriate5844 Hey now! That... is an entirely valid argument for which I have no rebuttal! No fair!

  • @johnlavery3433
    @johnlavery3433 3 роки тому +36

    The infinite and the divine mentions that the necrons would drop “mechanical conqueror worms” onto planets they wanted to destroy but had leave before they could do that properly.

    • @40KTheories
      @40KTheories  3 роки тому +18

      Interesting. Does it mention anything else regarding these?

    • @johnlavery3433
      @johnlavery3433 3 роки тому +24

      It may have been Necrontyr rather than necrons. Other that that all that was said is that Trazyn had one in his collection, which is like feeling the need to say the sun rises in the east. Still, it might explain Medusa’s seismic instability

    • @OverlordIntecris
      @OverlordIntecris 3 роки тому +10

      @@40KTheories Having read the passage describing the worm(s), I definitely feel like it's an unsubtle hint that Ferrus Manus managed to kill one of these wormlike superweapons on Medusa. Realistically, it could've been left for a multitude of reasons, like killing off a rival Tombworld, ending the existing human population for whatever reason, or possibly even the presence of some other group like Men of Iron, and the Necrons conflicting with them.

  • @LustWaffel
    @LustWaffel 3 роки тому +3

    I would love to see a campaign based on Iron Hands and their successors vs Necrons to bring little bit of love to one of the more ignored founding chapters

  • @gryphonofmight
    @gryphonofmight 3 роки тому +51

    Would make a disturbing amount of sense actually

  • @BlizzardofKnives
    @BlizzardofKnives 3 роки тому +30

    Even the Iron Hands can't be *that* unlucky...

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 роки тому +21

      You know damn well we are exactly that unlucky. But you also know damn well not a damn one of them necrons would ever make it off the planet in one piece.

    • @2993LP
      @2993LP 3 роки тому +15

      @@venerablebrothergoriate5844 You're unlucky, but at least you aren't cursed. We all know the Lamenters could plausibly be given a tomb world as a homeworld, with a second tomb world sleeping beneath it.

    • @NetMoverSitan
      @NetMoverSitan 3 роки тому +1

      They're not the Lamenters.

  • @myownmusic8182
    @myownmusic8182 3 роки тому +13

    30 minute gang!!! Love your videos. Even though I don't know nearly enough about the lore to know what you're talking about, your theories are both entertaining and informative about the lore

  • @oldeskul
    @oldeskul 3 роки тому +19

    Another plausibility is that Ferrus encountered a C'tan shard. Maybe it had escaped and was using the planet of Medusa IV to hide out on or that at some point in the distant past the Necrons were transporting a tesseract vault when something happened and the vault containing the shard was lost, only to crash upon the planet. At some point Ferrus Manus awoke the C'tan shard and the two did battle. Ferrus successfully destroyed the shard, but in the process his arms were severely injured(maybe when he drowned it in a river of lava) and the necrodermis bonded to his flesh.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 3 роки тому +1

      That would also make sense.

    • @phreakazoith2237
      @phreakazoith2237 3 роки тому +2

      very much like in the Ultramarines omnibus novel Nightbringer where they encountered a buried shard as well and one Ultramarine got a new arm from living metal.

  • @marcusadkins8752
    @marcusadkins8752 3 роки тому +18

    Ah yes little treat before I go to sleep, thank goodness it just came out lol

  • @kiradusk5765
    @kiradusk5765 3 роки тому +6

    Men of Iron...
    Nervous mechanicus noises intensify

  • @viewernewest
    @viewernewest 3 роки тому +66

    Remember sons of Medusa, the flesh is weak but the deeds remain!

    • @snakeyman5560
      @snakeyman5560 3 роки тому +2

      Isn't it "The flesh is weak but its deeds remain!"?

    • @Detahramet
      @Detahramet 3 роки тому +4

      Which is a bit ironic, since Ferrus Manus and his Iron Hands are sadly one of the most forgettable Space Marine Primarchs and Legions.
      I'm not shitting on them or anything, but if you asked someone to recite a list of the original 22 primarchs, Ferrus Manus is going to be second to last one mentioned before The Angel and after The Lost and The Damned.

    • @snakeyman5560
      @snakeyman5560 3 роки тому +1

      @@Detahramet I think you're right but I think the DA are more memorable than the White Scars and possibly the Ravengaurd.

    • @iconicjet3043
      @iconicjet3043 3 роки тому

      @@Detahramet nah too many iron hands for that to happen

  • @Kameth
    @Kameth 3 роки тому +6

    The problem with abandoned Necron stuff - if its got an intact portal, 'abandoned' is just a matter of opinion.

  • @Twy87
    @Twy87 3 роки тому +18

    99%+ of 40k's 'lost civilizations' are going to be Necron or Aeldari. GW's editors don't allow their authors that much creative free rein with the wider lore.

    • @jackrogers5712
      @jackrogers5712 Рік тому +1

      Agreed. It's crazy annoying, I wish we got to hear more about the various minor xeno races. Hrud, Kroot, Enslavers etc. How cool would it be for the Imperium to encounter ancient ruins that are all that's left of a long dead Hrud empire?

  • @jonathantheslow
    @jonathantheslow 3 роки тому +11

    I agree that Medusa is was likely the site of a Necron military installation. The world that I think is more likely to be a tomb world is Chogoris/Mundus Planus. If you could cover that theory, I would be stoked.

    • @SultanFilm
      @SultanFilm 3 роки тому +1

      Pretty sure he has before.

  • @andrewmcnally5013
    @andrewmcnally5013 3 роки тому +7

    It is indeed entirely possible that the planet was a Tomb World, and the various Canoptek constructs that were required for maintenance of both the Tomb complexes and stabilising the tectonics of the planet were slowly destroyed over time, letting the Tomb complexes be eradicated throughout the millennia.
    This way the Asanoth survives as a lone construct going off basic preservation programming, becoming little more than a feral beast.

  • @afiqazdilizan5896
    @afiqazdilizan5896 3 роки тому +22

    Wait so Medusa is just Mad Max-esque planet?

  • @runningbat1174
    @runningbat1174 3 роки тому +35

    "Chop' en up boyz but bring me the eads" - Gorgutz ead unter

    • @runningbat1174
      @runningbat1174 3 роки тому +1

      @@codysing1223 i don't have to i completely agree with your statement

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt 3 роки тому +5

    Glad you did this one my friend

  • @bloodfartmoon2765
    @bloodfartmoon2765 3 роки тому +3

    When i was listening to The Infinite and The Divine audiobook theres a part where trazyn goes to another dynasties relic vault and he a finds a "Canoptek Wyrm" (dunno if its wyrm or worm because its an audiobook) apparently its a thing the necrons dropped on already populated worlds to wipe out its population so they could come in , the thing Ferrus killed could be one of those

  • @davidolsen2495
    @davidolsen2495 3 роки тому +6

    Awesome night capper!

  • @sjewitt22
    @sjewitt22 3 роки тому +2

    I wish GW would give more light to Iron hands, Blood Ravens and Salamanders.

  • @RyDog905
    @RyDog905 3 роки тому +3

    I think that Medusa might have been a necron world, whether military outpost or tomb world, but I think by the very nature of the planet, their complex, and by extension the necrons inside, have been heavily damaged by Medusa being Medusa

  • @daviddickson412
    @daviddickson412 3 роки тому +11

    Last time I was this early ferrus manus still had his head.

  • @-Siculus-Hort-
    @-Siculus-Hort- 3 роки тому +9

    their shoulder iconography looks like nurgles symbol...

  • @r.cdahuman7682
    @r.cdahuman7682 3 роки тому +6

    Not the planet I would expect to be a tomb world (mundus planus takes that one), but I wouldn't be against it. I don't find the iron hands to be the most interesting chapter, and making their home planet a tomb world would be really interesting. Due to its very fucked tectonic structure, I doubt it would be a tomb world sadly.
    But it would be cool to see a tomb world where alot of the necrons were destroyed over the millennia, and seeing the leadership of the tomb world having to deal with these losses ontop of tomb complex damage and being on a planet controlled by Astartes. That would make a very interesting story, from the perspective of both the iron hands and the Necrons. Lots of potential there.
    Haven't watched the full video yet, but i know its gonna be great already. Keep up the great work Lore Master Rem!

  • @denis197534
    @denis197534 3 роки тому +3

    Man 40k lore is awesome

  • @Mac_in_the_Hat
    @Mac_in_the_Hat 3 роки тому +14

    I'm so early I don't know what to do with my hands

    • @shrubby-ov4yw
      @shrubby-ov4yw 3 роки тому +6

      *cue ricky bobby meme*

    • @viclange3826
      @viclange3826 3 роки тому +2

      Have you considered having them amputated and replaced with bionics?

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 3 роки тому +2

    I am picturing that scene from Age of Ultron, where Ironman auto-punches Hulk in the face saying "Go to sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep" I think it could happen like that with Iron *Hands* and a Necron Tombworld.
    Necron presence? Absolutely. Possibly a science lab where they experiment with a early form of Necrodermis - or at late replacement for it. Of coruse there are plenty of other minor Xenos that might have a similar style or material but are less known. The Warhammer 40k Universe is full of horrors.
    Tombworld? Unlikely. And not anymore either way. A planet with heavy volcanic activity is not the right place to get a good 100 million years of rest! They must have been awefully pressed to think that a planet that needs to be artificially stabilized would be a good place to go to sleep. And even then, the permanent disturbance of the tombs by the current volcanic activity should have awakened or destroyed them left, right and center.
    If this ever was a tomb world, it should have seen partial or full awakening centuries ago. And there would not be a lot of it left anyway by now.

  • @gryphonofmight
    @gryphonofmight 3 роки тому +6

    Kinda like chogoris is theorized to be also

  • @Agenthellion
    @Agenthellion 3 роки тому +6

    Is this a update of an older video, could've sworn you already made a video on the possibility of Necron presence on Medusa or was it Asirnoth's origin? I tried looking for those videos awhile back couldn't find them.

    • @40KTheories
      @40KTheories  3 роки тому +7

      I did a video about the Asirnoth a few years ago, but this is the first time I've done an in-depth analysis about the world itself.
      ua-cam.com/video/vbPFfUQdd2o/v-deo.html

  • @Thornsaint5301
    @Thornsaint5301 3 роки тому +1

    Remember that the Scythes of the Emperor had their Fortress Monastery right on top of the Pharos Beacon. So it is entirely possible that the Iron Hands haven’t yet noticed.

  • @stevensghost945
    @stevensghost945 3 роки тому +4

    If a necron tomb is on medusa, I hope they are ready for figth for they life. They will figth the most stuborn, no mercy and resilient chapter. They will not only figth the iron hand but all the son of Ferrus will join the figth.

  • @alphariausomegon662
    @alphariausomegon662 3 роки тому +6

    Plz explain what tf is happening with alphariaus in the new books

    • @supremetarantulasorcerer165
      @supremetarantulasorcerer165 3 роки тому

      Pretty much he was actually the first primarch to be found and was taken care of and taught by the Emperor then later down the line when he met his twin Omegon they switched roles
      So the Real Omegon took upon Alpharuis's identity and role while the Real Alpharuis became Omegon so he could work in secret and do some hidden jobs for the Emperor and such.Thats why "Alpharuis" turned traitor and led the alpha legion down the heretical path and why "Omegon" knew better and did everything he could to stop the real Omegon AKA "Alpharuis".
      Then when Rogal Dorn executed "Alpharuis" that was actually Omegon and the Real Alpharuis is still currently alive and traveling with Inquisitor Einshour's retinue from what I've Heard from Chapter Master Valrak.
      I haven't read the book yet but this is what I've heard from Valrak and some other 40k UA-camrs.

    • @40KTheories
      @40KTheories  3 роки тому

      I went into detail regarding the spoilers in a previous episode of Adeptus Podcastus a couple of months ago when I obtained my Limited Edition copy of the novel. :)

    • @r.cdahuman7682
      @r.cdahuman7682 3 роки тому

      @@supremetarantulasorcerer165 so wait. Who died.

    • @Coproquim
      @Coproquim 3 роки тому

      @@r.cdahuman7682 yes

    • @r.cdahuman7682
      @r.cdahuman7682 3 роки тому +1

      @@Coproquim after having looked into it, that does intact sum it up.

  • @RA10H56
    @RA10H56 3 роки тому

    Well done! Well done! Paseus from the ultramarine had a similar arm from dueling with a necron! Really good stuff!

  • @venkelos6996
    @venkelos6996 3 роки тому

    This was fun. Personally, I like the idea that Medusa is a Tomb World, or more specifically WAS a Tomb World. The Necrons slept for ages; around 65 million years, or so, and that's plenty of time for geology to change. Perhaps when the Necrons went to sleep, it was more stable. They could've erected some defenses, like the aforementioned stasis field generators, but there are other examples of Newcron tech not surviving intact through the whole sleep period. Perhaps the developing instability hit the planet, and what Necrons were functional for maintenance weren't up to task of protecting their complex, leading to its destruction. Some roving traces could survive, and without lead from units bearing command protocols, they just continued mindlessly repeating old tasks, or went mad/malfunctioned. We know that even Necrons' repair protocols have upper limits, and certain systems depend on higher ranking lords, or even phaerons, to function properly, so maybe it just suffered a catastrophic failure, after a Yellowstone event, or other massive tectonic shift simply destroyed its systems, leaving it without necessary leadership.

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 3 роки тому +5

    Now the part with the emperors swords really has me intrigued.
    How would a space marine chapter react to finding out that their home world is actually a tomb world? Like before the Necrons have a chance to suddenly wake up and start slaughtering everyone.
    I suppose the answer would depend on which chapter and their current situation.
    🎩
    🐍 no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

    • @ebbios
      @ebbios 3 роки тому +3

      The Warp Ghosts: Let us tell you a story....

    • @40KTheories
      @40KTheories  3 роки тому +3

      The Warp Ghosts: "You speak irrelevancies."

    • @chadcuckproducer1037
      @chadcuckproducer1037 3 роки тому +1

      My guess is violently.

  • @timothylyons5686
    @timothylyons5686 3 роки тому +1

    It could have been the tomb world of the Silent King.
    When he left the galaxy it became abandoned.
    Now he's back.

  • @NetMoverSitan
    @NetMoverSitan 3 роки тому

    It's one reason why the Iron Hands don't have a Fortress Monastery, but instead have 10 Land Behemoth mobile fortresses for each clan company (which are a codex compliant number in total) | 5:09 - As in the homeworld of Spiky Tits and the Thousand Sons?

  • @squoblat
    @squoblat 3 роки тому +1

    It would be cool if Medusa was one of the original homeworlds of the pre-C'tan necrons.

  • @JudicialBrat
    @JudicialBrat 3 роки тому +6

    Is the emperor a tomb#?#??

    • @dggross
      @dggross 3 роки тому +1

      Terra is the Tomb World for the Corpse Emperor

  • @nickm501
    @nickm501 3 роки тому +8

    Am i a tomb world?

    • @r.cdahuman7682
      @r.cdahuman7682 3 роки тому +2

      If you consider your cells necrons, then yes. We are all tomb worlds.

    • @kanalithviper4744
      @kanalithviper4744 3 роки тому +2

      Can a tomb world be made out of cyberdongs

    • @whythelongface64
      @whythelongface64 3 роки тому +1

      +± enacting survey protocols±+
      > Galactic co-ordinates locked
      > Processing available assets
      > Re-directing inquisitorial assets
      > Updating world status:
      exterminated
      +± Blessed is the mind too ±+
      +± small to house necron ±+
      +± tomb complexes ±+
      > End of transcript...

    • @chadcuckproducer1037
      @chadcuckproducer1037 3 роки тому

      Can a cyberdong be made of tomb worlds?

  • @ruipinho619
    @ruipinho619 3 роки тому

    In the novel The Infinite and the Divine, one of the two main characters mentions that some worlds were seeded long in the past, with some world ending necron wyrms (i believe he said wyrms), to eradicate the local population. The beast Ferrus Manus destroyed would be most probably one of these beasts, which would account for the his Iron Hands.
    Another theory is that the great tectonic upheaval could have disabled permanently the tomb world, thus preventing it's occupants from being awoken or outright destroyed, as again, the same novel, it is known another tomb world had been permanently destroyed by a particularly strong solar flare.

  • @setaripantheon8801
    @setaripantheon8801 3 роки тому +4

    *Yes!*

  • @thegreatboi8357
    @thegreatboi8357 3 роки тому +1

    Necrons wake up
    Sees the marines
    Necron “the same as always”

  • @benives254
    @benives254 3 роки тому

    I think the necrons rocked up, were like: "C'tan! What a shit hole!" And left.
    Ferrus arrived and forced a smile onto his face (nearly breaking it) and lied: "nice"

  • @doominator4072
    @doominator4072 3 роки тому

    For some reason I really like this idea because it allows for world building where not once race is in power and there could be a constant tug of war for power.
    I reckon it could be a ancient tomb world but like one of the unimportant ones or otherwise the necrons would have reclaimed it.

  • @djsharky3822
    @djsharky3822 3 роки тому +1

    What about Mundus Plainus(Chogoris)? I was under the impression that the planet was also a tomb world.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 3 роки тому

      It's also a candidate for being an Exodite World because Stormseers do primitive forms of the same kind of psychic rites that Exodite Spiritseers do.

  • @trajanfidelis1532
    @trajanfidelis1532 3 роки тому +6

    Last time i was this early Ferrus Manus still had a head

  • @nb9121
    @nb9121 3 роки тому

    My idea would be that it was a tomb world at some point. But after the Great Sleep had begun, an event triggered the terrible tectonic shifts on Medusa. The Necrons, asleep and unable to adapt, were buried or crushed as the planet shifted. Thus, the tombs were effectively obliterated with only small parts remaining being what we see today.

  • @kulovicz3152
    @kulovicz3152 3 роки тому

    I would say that it indeed can be a tomb world. Necrodermis is called living metal for it almost looks like dense liquid changing its shape as it repairs itself. Also in the past, there were many instances when the tomb world got wiped out by unpredictable events such as solar flare or electromagnetic impulse wiping tomb worlds collective data bank clear. But do not be mistaken. Tomb worlds are durable to such degree, that some more heavily fortified part can survive even exterminatus rendering the planets outer geological shell unstable or destroyed.

  • @rohan0724
    @rohan0724 3 роки тому

    I feel like the answer is that the Necrons Tomb got dumpstered by the geological upheaval, and maybe some of the power sources are still viable that make the lights

  • @paul-antonywhatshisface3954
    @paul-antonywhatshisface3954 3 роки тому

    I wasn't aware this was a question I genuinely thought this was a given. That it was a broken tomb world, chogoris is too aswell if I remember correctly. I always figured it was the iron men fighting a unprepared necron dynasty that fucked it up so horrendously

  • @kurthasedd7923
    @kurthasedd7923 3 роки тому

    Medusa's got to be special. I mean, as far as I know it's the first contact the Imperium has with the necrons and it dates back thousands of years before the first official encounter and these necrons would be active in some way on the worlds surface before the bulk of the necrons waking up. That is of course assuming these are necrons and not something else such as men of iron. At any rate, probably one of the more interesting space marine home worlds

  • @mattgrandich3977
    @mattgrandich3977 Рік тому

    Were there really a necron presence on Medusa I’m sure GW would use that as juicy narrative material.

  • @TheBernito2
    @TheBernito2 3 роки тому

    It was a Tomb World, the Old Ones nearly destroyed it or it was the refuge of "The Dragon" during the betrayal and it was him, not some lesser Necron construct, that Ferrus battled with as his final great test before rejoinig the Emperor! Initial lore do said that Ferrus' hands where mechanical before the battle and became living metal after 'He plunged the great metal snake into the volcano until it was no more!', a battle in 'the Valley of metal giants' (the Dragon's necrons were known as the largest ones by the Eldar...). Manus had some weird reactions to certain events; he didn't test the Emperor like others did upon meeting him, instead recognising him on the spot showing greater insigth than most other Primarks but he was 100% convinced he could defeat Horus in single combat? He was so enraged by Chaos that he let his emotions get in the way of logic? How did he appeared to the reest of the Iron Hands to say he was resting on Mars, healing, and that he would return? Ferrus never showed Psychic abilities! How convenient that 'The Dragon' is also rumored to rest on Mars! Could he have merged in part with the greates C'tan or even been replaced by him? It would explain the lack of resistance to the Emperor; a fight would have revealed his true nature, and that he was so enraged by Chaos!
    I know, the Lore was retconned, but the whole Novel retelling is full od holes! Not one reliable witness could confirm the way it happened; Chaos is full of Liars and the gullibles! Ferrus Manus is supposed to be the First Primark to die, and Horus had no way to be sure he would kill another or Sanguinus himself; why would they give his head to Argon? It would have been a great psycholigical weapon against the Loyalists! Why would a Khorne worshiper accept a Slannesh's leftovers? It is more likely that Ferrus did something so outrageous that everyone prefered to lie about what they saw; no marine has seen a Necrn before, let alone a C'tan, and the crazy things they do like survive beheadings or opening gates that don't use the Warp or the Eldar Webway... But as usual GW doesn't know what to do with the Iron Hands; just look at the missed opportunity of the Eye of Terror campaign; they were the nearest Chapter to the Eye, but they recieved no attention from GW. No new untits or characters, no battle report, they were on the star map but you couldn't access it on the website and they only got one or two mentions in the conclusion report of the campaign; most of the Chapter was far away figthing Xenos and they had a prison revolt on a penitentiary moon that was quelled by the Arbitres! That is it.

  • @alithanar8
    @alithanar8 3 роки тому

    Well Medusa looks like a weird parallel to Kuat in Star Wars

  • @michaelsusnjer772
    @michaelsusnjer772 3 роки тому

    It would be nice to have more iron hands stories.

  • @jjm3529
    @jjm3529 3 роки тому

    Or,there's also the possibility that it was a Intergalactic communication system like the one found on Sotha.Belisarius Cawl discovered that Sotha was one of many such teleportation/Communication systems which are scattered all across the Galaxy.That would explain the Chamber and the small Necron presence as Sotha too only had one complex,a mountain(Possible Iron Mountain connection) which contained .several Canoptek constructs

  • @updfdrakkell143
    @updfdrakkell143 3 роки тому +1

    what if the necrons cause the war with the men of iron? or cuz they were based of necron tech

  • @jmagowan12
    @jmagowan12 3 роки тому

    I believe it was necron iron inside and outside, but since media's shakes fall about so much it wasn't going till last last.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 2 роки тому

    If the Iron Hands and/or Ad Mech found a Necron biotransference furnace, would they use it?

  • @ashbannana6286
    @ashbannana6286 3 роки тому

    I think in the books Shattered Legion and/or Old Earth the counsel of elders from Medusa try to resserect Ferrus Manus using his metal arms that had been recovered. They belive that the soul of the primark is still within the metal as they describe it as having an "anima" to them. This would make sense if the creature he fought was not only a Necron construct but a fragment of a Ktan as well. It would have been a small shard with almost nothing left of the original Ktan personality but the basic will to survive.

  • @dilet1114
    @dilet1114 3 роки тому +5

    Yes, but also no.

  • @Evohunter7
    @Evohunter7 3 роки тому

    I think it would be cool to show that Medusa is a tomb-world.

  • @jesseberg3271
    @jesseberg3271 3 роки тому +1

    The problem with this is that, this being the case, the Iron Hands should have have records of Necron architecture and iconography. When the Imperium officially encountered the Necrons, the Iron Hands should have come forward and shared that information, at least with the Inquisition and the High Lords. That doesn't disprove anything, but it raises the question of why they didn't. The Iron Hands are not a particularly secretive Chapter.

    • @fhmcateer
      @fhmcateer 3 роки тому +1

      They are hugely insular. The only institution they communicate with regularly is the AdMech via the Voice of Mars.

  • @TheDethBringer666
    @TheDethBringer666 3 роки тому

    Sounds like the place got rekt in the past, with only ruins remaining. The monster could even be dark age human tech used to destroy the local Necrons.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 3 роки тому

    Have any ancient inactive tomb complexes been discovered in a "fossilized" form?

  • @Leifthrasir
    @Leifthrasir 3 роки тому +1

    Unless they have changed the lore, Medusa is a very geological active world. If Iceland was a planet and it was on steroids then it would be called Medusa. Every settlement has to be mobile and ready to move on a moment's notice because the ground could split open at anytime. Because of the kind of world it is I don't think it would be possible for Medusa to be a Tomb world.

  • @SgtThiel
    @SgtThiel 3 роки тому

    maybe someone ( like the eldar ) subjected the world to exterminatus in order to destroy the tumbs during their sleep, hence the geological instability

  • @EbeeDeeby
    @EbeeDeeby 3 роки тому

    10,000 years seems too long of a gap..like, damn

  • @shawnhardy-lester8496
    @shawnhardy-lester8496 2 роки тому

    the tomb world became too unstable and as a result the necron structures that allow the operations to function ceased to be resulting it to be a dead tomb world though i don't really know all about necron tomb world so this may not be valid but i like the thought Medusa being a dead tomb world

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 3 роки тому

    Why would the Necrons build cities/tomb worlds on an unstable planet? Surely a species as wise as the Necrons would realize a structure built on sand isn't a good idea.

  • @phreakazoith2237
    @phreakazoith2237 3 роки тому

    so in terms of the populus's living standards Medusa is a dusty version of Fenris?

  • @ZuluZuluingtonthefirst
    @ZuluZuluingtonthefirst 3 роки тому +1

    Immersion Lord bless you

  • @alexwest2514
    @alexwest2514 3 роки тому

    Medusa more like MEDU-SAAAAH

  • @thatlonewolfguy2878
    @thatlonewolfguy2878 3 роки тому

    So a planet that tears itself apart so badly that it will probably just die out due to said ripping itself apart eventually meaning under the surface would be literally completely impossible to exist in even with necrodermis and reality-warping tech? Nah I'm calling it ain't a Tomb World on this one

  • @KiwiSpartan01
    @KiwiSpartan01 3 роки тому

    I don't need sleep, I need answers.

  • @whistlerwade
    @whistlerwade 3 роки тому

    How did pre emperor humans not run into necron tomb worlds? Or did they, and the necrons caused the cybernetic revolt....

  • @liamcore7203
    @liamcore7203 3 роки тому

    Since the Necron went to sleep on well over 1 billion worlds, the odds are likely.

  • @patricksmith9700
    @patricksmith9700 3 роки тому +1

    Yes just instead of necrons it has the iron hands

  • @golkor9879
    @golkor9879 3 роки тому

    The tectonic upheaval would have ruined thier stasis crypts. Probably

  • @supremercommonder
    @supremercommonder 3 роки тому

    Not suprised the necrons had a billion world in the infinite and the divine

  • @ZetaOmega1456Gamma
    @ZetaOmega1456Gamma 3 роки тому

    now what if the Tomb world of Medusa is Ruined?

  • @CousinJesse1
    @CousinJesse1 3 роки тому

    Dislikes are from Emperors Children.

  • @jamesmccutcheon5591
    @jamesmccutcheon5591 3 роки тому

    It used to be a tomb world but after 60 million years the orbit changed or the mantle changed or the Eldar found the geological stabilizers and broke them.

  • @0nan-Son-of-Juda-Brother-of-Er
    @0nan-Son-of-Juda-Brother-of-Er 3 роки тому

    Medusa is Mad Max World

  • @joseantoniosantiago1258
    @joseantoniosantiago1258 3 роки тому

    What if Vulkan led the Imperium after the War of the Beast?

  • @karljohan2300
    @karljohan2300 3 роки тому

    well there is always the theory that mechanicum worship a machine god of necron and iron hands are very machineish so there could always be the thing that they dont know that the necron god makes them worship machines or do away with the weak flesh

  • @HiroTheWanderer
    @HiroTheWanderer 3 роки тому

    As disturbing as it may be... We Ould never know for sure...

  • @augiechiavuzzi4907
    @augiechiavuzzi4907 3 роки тому

    Don't think a tomb world or if it was is now dead cause if tectonic movement cause in the history of the necrons many tombs were destroyed due to planetary devastation such as this

  • @ThatGamingAsshole
    @ThatGamingAsshole 3 роки тому

    The evidence for it being a tomb world is too strong to be explained by anything else. The tectonic events may be why they never woke up, they may all be dead(er) because something happened after they took a nap. But the defenses remain online.

  • @darrianweathington1923
    @darrianweathington1923 3 роки тому +1

    Every world is a tomb world. Even Terra

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 3 роки тому +1

      Are you suggesting that the Eldar planets (Exodite Worlds, Crone Worlds) are ALSO Tomb Worlds?

    • @darrianweathington1923
      @darrianweathington1923 3 роки тому +1

      @@jagnestormskull3178 everyone and everything is a tomb world... even me.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 3 роки тому

      @@darrianweathington1923 There is no Tomb World. Once you realize that, you can control the Matrix.

    • @TK199999
      @TK199999 3 роки тому

      No actually the more scary idea is that almost every world in the Milky Way. Was a battle field in the War in Heaven at any one time. Like the Yucatan asteroid impact, was in fact the fall of an Old One Battle Spire. That had finally fell to the Necron after a running battle that took place over millennia. So image nearly every inhabited world in the galaxy could just as likely have debris from the War in Heaven. Hell even today bombs and shells from WWI over 100 years ago are still found in Europe. Werid events in Imperial history could just as easily be the accidental triggering half destroyed weapons from a war at the dawn of time.