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Could you cover the training system and army of the Mamluk Sultanate. Since it was one of the most professional and effective militaries in the entire medieval world, besting both Mongols and crusaders (Until the chaos after anNasir Muhammad, afterwhich it became a failed state...)
The video was great, do you guys plan on covering the Italian Wars or portuguese history? They had some stuff going on in india and also their war of independence from spain
The janissaries were a double-edged weapon. This is what gave the Ottoman a superiority against European and Middle Eastern mamluk, Safavid, and aq qoyunlu but after it was the janissaries and their corruption who blocked any change to modernization and Ottomans found themselves bypassed by European
Agreed, but I think they're more like a chef's knife: effective, wieldy and safe when sharp, but can cut you when otherwise From what I've read so far, by the time they became less effective is when they were more corrupted. They lowered the standards for recruitment to keep recruiting, became traders and married(which is forbidden, but they did later on anyway), they don't have much wars to loot and pillage from, so they started extorting money and bullying anyone beneath them. I've read that some higher status janissaries refuse to go to war(this was around 18th to early 19th century)
what modernization ??? 😅 This is simply a systematic imitation of Western tyranny, classism, and extravagance Keep in mind that this time was not during the reign of Sultan Mahmoud II, but rather a century earlier during the reign of Ahmed I, when he began to exhaust the state treasury by building French-style palaces and amusement parks... This is what will lead to popular anger and the movement of the elites and the army, and about decades later, the outbreak of the french revolution. and out on the royal family
Sultans, at least some of them, saw the corruption and tried to reform/disband them, like sultan selim III, who was quickly deposed, and mahmoud II, who succeeded to disband them. Some fled to then-Bosnian eyalet, which was sort-of attempting to gain autonomy(under husein-bey captain of gradačac) and reinstate at least some of the privileges the former/retired jannisaries had. Ofc sultan was having none of either and put a swift end on that bit of bosnian history.
It was always an archaic system of governance. Just look at how a new Sultan came to power. Lots of brothers and family members were quickly disposed of before any opposition could compete for control. They were a very efficient war machine with vast numbers and used the most modern equipment. Give credit where credits due. Like every great empire before and after they began to rest on their laurels, IMO. The rot always comes from within.
The problem was that the Ottomans decided to expand and bloat the Janissaries instead of being a niche elite force indocrinated since childhood to be completely subservient to the sultan.
After the acclaimed Kingmakers: Praetorian Guard, comes another smash hit from Empires That Ruled Over Constantinople: Kingmakers 2: Janissaries. Watch as yet another elite group of soldiers morphs from royal guards into a royal pain in the ass.
Its very interesting how both the Janissaries and the Knights Templar in Europe were both destroyed when their respective leaders saw them as threats. The Knights Templar were massacred by the orders of King Philip IV (France) & Pope Clement V.
And janissaries were massacred by the orders of Mahmud the Second in 1826 and their order was abolished. Search "Auspicious Incident" for more details.
The Templars were wealthy bankers, what happened to them followed that model. The popes predecessor have been beaten resulting in injuries leading to death by the King's men for refusing to go along with the plan, so he decided to make good on it, and then secretly pardoned the Templars afterwards. The Templars were never corrupted even if the mystery has fuelled rumours and fiction of that sort, they went to death martyrs to the avarice of a king of France.
@@juniorjames7076 Yes, but they were not a satanic cult of goatee-wearing, cackling villains with goat legs, like propaganda painted them as. There was not much difference between them and the Italian banking families by that time.
As a bulgarian fan of your channel I can't express my gratitude for you stopping to mention our viewpoint on the jannisaries,I have seen no other historian do so.My deepest thanks
It looks like the Russian 16th-century tactic was a copy of the Ottoman's one. Especially the use of wagons and the absence of pikes (which sometimes led to catastrophes of musketeers vs cavalry massacre)
They might converently evolve to deal with similar enemies. Turks and Russian had regularly fought against both European knights and Eastern Turkmen/Tatar hordes. Pikeman or pike and shot would not suit these variaty of enemies and both Russian and Turks lack plate armor tech to make infantry fisible.
This Channel has the best Military History content with extensive primary sources many history channels just use Wikipedia and never sight their sources
the times of the janissaries were very cruel, but man, the Ottoman empire, for all its glory and ingenuity, made cruelty a substantial part of its system.
if they were that cruel they wouldn't last over 5 centuries, the cruleler and more unjust system the less it will last as shown by history, Ottomans obviously weren't that bad unless you are some softie westerner seeing turks as monsters cause they arent white
for sure cruelty and terror were pillars of the empire. the mongol influence was strong. also western culture is heavily influenced by jesus christ so our tolerance for straight up evil is much lower than other places. when you read how the comanche killed and tortured jesuit missionsries, sometimes over years, makes you wonder if Godless heathen was more warning than insult
@@VigilantGuardian6750 I suppose you're one of these people who excuse and brush off Imperiaism and war crimes when the perpeturater isn't white? The Ottomans were just cruel and evil as any European Empire.
It is so interesting seeing kingdoms early attempts at professional armies, and how eventually these establishments become powerful political forces. Varangians, Praetorian Guards, Mamaluks, and Janissaries.
The Janissaries were priviledged and the smart ones were selected to be raised as Pashas. So most of the Ottoman army and ruling class were those "slaves".
It started later and I also wonder why not anybody thinking Janissaries were infantry because it's harder to flee as infantry and it's less prestigious to be infantry in most of the cultures so that prestige went to mostly ethnic Turk Sipahis
Video: tells about the change of status from slaves to the shadow government, those slaves having many privileges(though, honestly, maybe it would be better not to use the term slave due to negative connotations), praising their military skill and how their discipline made them the elite who made foreign soldiers tremble. Comments: "you're biased, showing the ottomans in negative light, undermining their achievements" 🤦♂️
@@Vhite well, probably should have said that people are needed to be more frequently reminded that slavery, although was a status of direct subjigation, didn't necessarily involve mistreatment or lack of content of the enslaved person and that it was a very deep topic back in the day
@@Vhite What is the difference between them and the temple knights who were converted from paganism to Christianity and were drafted into the army? Were the people fighting for the king in the West fighting for themselves? Were they slaves of the king or the feudal lord? Also, they weren't slaves, that's your lie. Janissaries ruled the Ottoman Empire rather than the sultan, and the sultan was only the final approval authority. Janissaries rise in rank and become pasha. Pashas were related to the families of many Ottoman sultans. Which slave can marry the sultan's daughters or siblings?
@@yuzemir the difference is that janissaries were the direct property of the sultan, so they were slaves. Pretty simple logic and your paragraph of nuance doesnt change that fact.
Could you cover the training system and army of the Mamluk Sultanate. Since it was one of the most professional and effective militaries in the entire medieval world, besting both Mongols and crusaders (Until the chaos after anNasir Muhammad, afterwhich it became a failed state...)
7:40 The reason for this huge spike in numbers is because by the 17th century the devshirme system was abandoned and replaced with voluntary recruitment.
Every video about something that has the smell of islam in it, always have the most toxic comments section ever, whether it's from the hatred towards islam, or vice versa.
@@lolasdm6959 Serbian tsars and despots are slain one by one by Turkish soldiers the same Serbs after losing all the battles: Oh man, we give up to our new Masters
I'm surprized by how many people in the comment section try to justify the devshirme. Boys were taken away from their families, given new names, new religion, new identity, raised to blindly obey the Sultan, their ties with their real families were completely severed. Sometimes they were assigned to serve in harems -- then they were castrated. It is true that some families made an active effort to have their sons taken hoping that it would give them great opportunities, but on the other hand many people did whatever they could to avoid it.
You're the one who's MASSIVELY overstating the negative impact of leaving your parents at an early age. For fuck's sake man, do you know that the life of a jannissary was better than 99% of the people on the planet? They lived like Sultans! They were trained in many many things to be the best. They had their shares of every plunder, every comfort. They were the best of the best.. and now in 2024 I see everybody crying like yOu tOoK tHeM fRoM thEIr moTHeRs!!! Do you know how many people TODAY would trade their lives to be a jannissary back in the day? Even the title of the video says "SLAVE" soldiers.. geez lay off the victim mentality for crying out loud! Yes, they might have had no choice when taken, their families stricken with grief (100 times better than being killed and looted honestly) but they lived like KINGS. Unlike the ACTUAL slaves the United States used to harbor. There is a MASSIVE difference and all the whining you and your ilk does is just pure idiocy.
@@tetefatherpeople are ignorant. I am a descendant of the janissaries. They were not slaves. They were like Spartans. Given education and army training. In the army they were treated like Sultans. These are what I been taught in my family through generations. I still have letters from my ancestor during janissaries time. The media is lying. They were not slaves at all. They were elite warriors with very high education too. They were not stolen from their family. They were given to the army because their families were very poor and couldn't afford to take care of them. It's was like nowadays parents send kids to orphanage. Any other janissaries descendant like me will confirm what I am saying. My rich life today is thanks to my janissaries ancestor. He came from a family who could not afford to feed him and the army made him a wealth and educated man.
@@tetefather and them having a chance at a better life made it ok? Was it ok for the jannisaries that were taken from their families and reeducated only to die brutally in their first battle? Needs no explanation, it was slavery. Unless you’d like to discuss the copious amount of slaves that were in the Ottoman Empire
The boys who were taken stayed as loyal bodyguards, but when the Janissaries started letting other people join without the same training then they became rebellious
Contrary to common knowledge, Devshirme (Ottomans making high staff governors and well-paid soldiers out of farmer children) was very desired by minority parents for their children, for instance Bosnians were severely complaining to sultans about their children not being taken for Devshirme, because they were muslim.
@@nvelsen1975 if you think its anything less than a lottery win for the kid you are brain damaged. For the family however its cruel but it is what it is.
I am a Turkish history teacher. Your explanation is excellent but the way you pronounce Turkish words is very funny :) I still recommend your videos to my students. All very informative
Fun fact the loyal artillery men that would be the end of the jannssaries would another elite unit of the empire who were at the same rank as the jannssaries and were their rivals
It’s so cool and strange that they were obsessed with strict rules guidelines and regulations to their daily living and order… but in battle they were against formations such as strange ideal to the modern soldier… not wrong but strange
First of all, thank you for your educating videos. Second, as I grew up amidst the books, one of my favourite way back when was "Stars of Eger" ("Eger csillagok" by Gardonyi Geza). The story itself falls into the same timeline as many of your videos do- middle period of 16th century. Would you be willing to make a video of siege of Eger aswell ?! :) I do appologise, if you have already covered it in your previous videos, however, it was (in my teens) the most epic tales of all time! :)
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An interesting fact that is not said is that the Janissaries were, in all likelihood, the first modern professional army to use uniforms in Europe, since other armies would not take this path until practically the middle of the 17th century. A question that I have always had with the Janissaries is: How much inspiration did they take from the Mamluks? And what are the most obvious differences in the way they were organized? I think it deserves a separate video to talk about a comparison between the two units, with many similarities, since one precedes the other and they were very successful at their respective times.
Great suggestion. Both were slave elite troops of Islamic empires. It seems that the Ottomans did a better job of training their elite slaves to be loyal, as the Janissaries only revolted when they lost their cohesion as enslaved Christians. I believe the Mamluks were Turkish slaves and already Muslim.
They were basically spartans of early modern times. Recruited at young age, raped, tortured, brainwashed, overworked, and when they ready for their first battle they either become a high ranked statesman or a rotten corpse in battlefield.
I heard in somewhere that christian families would actually be okay with this? As there sons could achieve higher social status and mobility when serving rather than them just being a Christian family
Depends on the families. The devout one would raise hell. Others would move mountains for one of their children to be levied as Janissaries. They, the Janissaries', become so powerful that they become political clout 'representing' their homeland in the Ottoman court.
Yes, was varied. Some christian families rightly saw the Janissary corps as a mechanism for social advancement. And muslim families also recognized this and got upset that their sons were denied this power, to the point that in the 1600s as the Janissaries became more of a praetorian guard, muslim families demanded and got the right to have their children inducted
ottomans were at some point more of a euro-balkan empire than anatolian/asian one exactly cause of this, too many white balkan peeps got into places of power in the government
Uniforms were worn by the Janissaries before any other European army until the mid-seventeenth century, making them the first modern professional army in Europe. How much the Janissaries owed to the Mamluks is something I've frequently pondered. How did their respective organizations differ most notably? A separate video should compare the two units, which are similar, since one was successful in its time and came before the other.
I think the main difference is that the Janisarries and the Devshirme in general are more centralised than the Mamluks, Ghulams that existed before. Mamluks/Ghulams were bought and sold by individual masters and also instructed by them or someone the master chose. This type of Mamluk still existed in the Ottoman empire through their vassals in the Mamluks of Egypt until the very end.
There were so many Bosnian janissaries that Bosnian was a second language in Istanbul by the mid-17th century. Bosnia was the backbone of the conquest of Hungary, possibly also what would later become Romania.
@@tylerclayton6081 Bosnia singlehandedly defeated Prince Hildburghausen's 150 000-man HRE army (Germans/Saxons & Austrians, Hungarians, Croats, Slavonan Serbs) with 5 000 regulars and 25 000 civilian volunteers in 1737-1739, while the whole Ottoman army was busy in Ukraine.
@@aleksakuljanin2442 You're lying because you're a Serb. Serbs are seething that they can't conquer other countries, and try to pathetically disprove genetics and history for the sake of expansion. Manuel Komnenos commissioned to have "Emperor of the Bosnians" etched into the Hagia Sophia in 1166. Bosnia was under Hungarian suzerainty at that time, so curb your stupid "it's just about a passport" - passports didn't even exist in the middle ages. Meanwhile, Ioannes Skylitzes wrote in the 11th century that Serbs are a little tribe of Croats who tried to steal Bulgarian land. Now go cry in a corner while Kosovo finishes its secession and your country falls apart.
People wrongfully assume Ottomans did this devshirme practice to access to a new pool of manpower. The real aim was to create an elite soldier that had no tribal ties. You cant enslave Turks because they are Muslim and therefore you cant break their tribal ties. While other Turkish beys had to please all the chiefs in their lands to gather an army, Ottomans had a centralised elite core. For a very long time janissaries had very anectodal numbers. 500, 1000, 6000 and so on. The backbone of the army was the provincial cavalry. It grew in time because of the military revolution in Europe that required Ottomans to deploy more riflemen. As the video stated they couldnt sustain the numbers merely with devshirme anymore so sons of janissaries and Turks were taken into the corps. After that point the number of the corps dramatically increased 30.000 40.000 etc. Of course the old discipline was gone when the number was this high. They also created a new army called sekban from Turks who were also riflemen later on.
Just someone trying to justify the horrific practice of Devshirme. ONE or TWO guys were risen to high rang. Therefor the 100s of thousand others enslave them and fight wars constantly.
@@shergy1000 This is not a justification of devshirme system this is just an explanation of it and of course they were seen inferior that's why they got chosen for process just like the simple fact that they were founded as infantry because it's harder to flee as infantry and in many cultures it's more prestigious to be cavalry that applies for Turks too
This slavery talks are just lie my friend. Even this century this kind of lies can be told. Nobody can give their childrens to arm as a slave. If you take the children from their family with using force, that Child will gonna be against to you when he grow up!!
@@daveweiss5647 Sorry mate but it is lie, lies of the defeated enemy of Ottomans. I mean Ottomans take the childrens willingly not buy evil act not by force.
If bosnian historiographers are to be believed, after it was conquered and later established as a border province of the ottoman empire, bosnian muslims requested that their boys too be part of devshirme system(which was granted), and many of them found their way both into the court and the jannisary corps. Sokollu Mehmed Pasha(or Mehmed-paša Sokolović, as he's usually called) was one of those bosnian boys.
@@esoterra8050 There are also the stories of their involvement as part of ottoman army, like how they got majority of hungarian nobility killed in one battle that favored the ottoman cavalry(1492), or in already mentioned mohacs, they would have been at vienna gates the second time(when suleiman the magnificent died at sziget, and sokollu mehmed pasha suppressed the news of it to save army morale), the fall of majority of bosnian muslim sepahi in 1593, whose relatives gained the right of inheritance of land and service(usually was for life only), list goes on. Profitable indeed.
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There is archival information about this. Similar case we find in Albania too. Ottoman Turnacibashi was informed not to take children who were overly enthusiastic or not to accept bribes from people who wanted to put their children into the Janissary Order. This video should have used accurate Ottoman Archival Data which are public. But then again its not always his agenda to inform people of the facts. Take a look at this: belleten.gov.tr/tam-metin/248/eng
My ex-girlfriend's family were Turk/Bosnian Bektaşi (Bektashi) sect. They are a really laid back Sufi sect and NOT strict at all. I drank beer and rakı all the time with the father.
I think that polearms used by the Janissaries are heavily underappreciated. Maybe the iconography or some weird western concept of lightly armored ottomans played into this. In fact, Janissaries were heavy infantry, up armored and equipped with spears (mizrak) and axes (baltadji). Especially their "stormtroopers" such as serdengeçti or zirhli nefer. Janissaries also fought behind war wagons, often using guns, while heavily armored cavalry such as the sipahi would storm enemy units. There is no other way they would have won so many battles against heavily armored european knights.
One thing I'd like to point out from the start that "Tabur Cengi" literally means Battalion War. Are you sure It's not Something like Tabur-i Cengi which translates to Battalion of War. Tho I might be mistaken because as a turkish speaker it caught my attention as weird
The Slave part is partially true, they were slaves, kul, to the Sultans, but kul is rather something like the relationship of a peasant to an European king, like serf. They were more like the Praetorian Guard, killing and setting up kings and terrorizing peasants. The system was adopted by Turks from the Persians and Arabs, who bought up enslaved Turks from the markets because they were deemed warriors since birth and turned them into elite guards who had no kinship to the locals, supposingly preventing revolts, called Ghulams and Mamlukes.
there are always big misconceptions in videos like these. People always overlook the fact that ottomans never took boys from families where they were an only child, and families would voluntarily send their sons to become janissaries because that meant that they can get education, and most importantly, that they can get their own land
He did say they didn't take from families with just a single boy (nor from Jewish families). There were clearly advantages and privileges to being a Janissary seen in this video.
Perhaps one of the most long-lasting, large-scale, mass examples of Stockholm syndrome in the history of the world! Truly heartbreakingly sad, especially for the families that they were ripped away from as kids, as well as their mortal souls in eternity.
No that is when Asian people did it to White people. We Bulgarians who were genocided systematicaly,whose children were kidnaped always wondered what kind of impudent idiots can make such accusation from very dirthy souls@@Hasanbas-rv3vm
LETS JUST MAKE THIS CLEAR. The ages of the boys were generally between 14 and 19 years old. At that time, most of these recruitments were voluntary and many applications were turned down. What conditions do you think rural people lived in in the 15th and 16th centuries? Do you think they are preparing for university exams, studying to become doctors and engineers, etc.? A historical event must be evaluated on its own terms. Imagine that you are in a family with 5 children who are farmers. Your father, your grandfather and his father were all farmers. Would you give up the chance to live, work and study in İstanbul, in the dream city of that time? And after receiving training, you have the possibility of rising to high ranks such as vizier, pasha or even grand vizier. Also, if you can improve yourself, you can also have jobs such as being a doctor or an architect outside the army. There are examples of all of these in history. This is a chance to get rich. Also, do not mind that the Janissaries were slaves, their financial situation was quite good. Or stay in your village and continue cleaning your cow's dung from the ground, the choice is yours.
That sounds like a terrible excuse and justification for an appalling practice of forcibly enslaving boys. Taking them far from the families, who they would never see again. Making them convert to another religion, and then forcing them through a tough life of training, and then fighting for a country that occupied theirs. Being banned from marrying or until 40 years old or having property. And you say we shouldnt mind that they were slaves? The great majority of young boys recruited were not voluntary at all. Did you watch the video? They were forcibly recruited using the 'devşirme' system. of child levy enslavement, by which Christian Albanians, Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Greeks, Romanians, Serbs and Ukrainians were taken, levied, subjected to forced circumcision and conversion to Islam, and incorporated into the Ottoman army. These boys would probably never see the families, they were forcibly removed from, again, in their life. Whatever their families situation, Im sure they would have preferred it, if they were even given the choice, of staying in their community, to being enslaved into the army, of an occupying power. Im sure their parents would also have hated this too.
@@TheEggmaniac the never seeing their families part is bullshit, they often ended up ruling their home regions, like Skanderbeg. The restrictions were lifted over time due their immense political power, barring Turks or others from entering the corps and placing their own relatives.
Im glad someone is talking about ottoman opression of Balkans. Many dont know that ottoman occupation was more colonization, exploitation and destruction of local culture and enslavement then just conquest.
Then how come you guys maintain your language and religion? In africa most people speak English or French and are Christians. A legacy of colonization. But you guys could maintain yours. And the colonization of africa didnt even last as long as the ottomans rule in the balkans. Something tells me they were more tolerant with their "colonization".
@@Imperator-vo4to because we didnt let ourself be genocided? Ever thought about that? So you are saying Armenian genocide never happend because 100% of Armenians arent killed? You are part of problem we face every day, oh living under ottomans wasnt that bad. Yea them destroying cultural heritage of your people to build mosques is totally not genocide. Balkans being slaves to muslims for 500 years totally didnt made us poor. Losing millions due to muslim enslavement totally didnt f up our demographics. Muslims never existed in Balkans, until muslims genocided, colonized and enslaved Balkans. Albania exists because of islamic colonization of Balkans, genocide of Greeks and because of Austria creating Albania. Bosnia exists because of islamic colonization of Bosnia and genocide to native Croat and Serb population. But do you know what doesnt exist? Greeks in Anatolia who were in Anatolia from ancient times. But yea keep defending ottomans, one day because of your hate towards Slavs you might end up like Greeks in Anatolia, or like Armenians in Armenia, or like Bulgarians in Bulgaria when they wanted to end ottoman rule. I guess western Europeans will never learn what is life until they find themself on frontlines with enemy that hates your existance for 500 years. And im 100% sure you arent Spanish because they know what is like to defend yourself from someone like ottomans.
@@Imperator-vo4to Simple put, you are wrong. First, most people in Africa speak both there tribal language and "colonial" language. Success of conversion is also mix, with result being weird combination of local beliefs and christianity. And while it is fact that Ottomans offered cultural autonomy to Balkan people, they also massacred, clensed and converted part of those same Balkan people, which really puts question on that autonomy and tolerance which you claim was somehow higher in Balkans compared to Africa and Asia.
@@aleksaradojicic8114sorry man, the ottomans were the PIONEERS of the African slave trade.. Look up the eastern African slave trade by the ottomans in the Indian sea. Centuries before these African countries were white colonized, they were slave exported by Turks😮. All slave masters are bad, this video just highlights how bad the ottomans were to the Balkan people. STOP comparing levels of slavery, it’s all bad and should all be discussed!!!
The Janissaries were originally and primarily drawn from the conquered Medieval South Slavic states of Bulgaria, Serbia, and Bosnia and Herzegovina. They were not castrated and they were not slave-soldiers like the Saqaliba, the Ghulam, the Kul, and the Mamelukes, they had to perform a compulsory military service for a fixed period, and upon completing the said military service, they would be free to do as they see fit, the majority remained in the service of the Ottoman Porte due to its (originally) revolutionary meritocratic features.
Thanks. In western occuped europe it s not a common knowledge sadly. Like bacha bazi too.. People think they are free from History and faith..a mistake to self destruction.
Biggest source of Janissary was Serbia. Its was called "Tax in blood" and it was done for nearly 400 years. Sons would be taken while there where babies so they would not remember there family. Serbs that converted to Muslims got to avoid that tax and became muslim population we have today in Balkans. Near the end of service there was a practice of killing Janissaryes that rose in the ranks of Ottomans. Famous case is Mehmed Pasha Sokolovic, a Serb Janissary which rose to rank of Grand Vizier. He was strangled when deemed to powerful. There where slaves without a doubt, just glamour slaves.
Yeah, babies can't fight for like 15 years buddy, terrible investment, close to adolescence is more accurate and they did remember their families, you literally mentioned Sokollu Mehmet Pasha, who commissioned the building of the famous Mostar bridge in Sarajevo, where he was from. I'm pretty sure he would have not done that had he been made to forget his his birthplace.
The reason is that Jewish society is an urban society. One of the basic principles of the Devshirme institution is that city servants are not accepted into the hearth, because city servants have an open mind, they can belong to various movements and currents.
This was the Janissary slogan; O enemies of Allah and O enemies of Muhammad, You are infidels, we are grateful; you are one side, we are another. There is only one God and Muhammad is his messenger.
@@ivanvidojevic2461 What you believe is your own business, is there a need for inter-religious polimic here? This is just the slogan of the Janissary in the Ottoman period. I don't think it has anything to do with Muhammad or Jesus for us.
I wonder if the Janissaries inspired Star Wars?? “Some of them never manage to join the corps, instead working various trades, but the rest of them undergo military training” is almost spot-on for the Jedi Order, except its lightsaber/combat training more so than strictly military training.
Spain implemented their own version of Janissaries in the new world called ‘Genizaros’ notably from Apaches and Pueblos enslaving native boys and resettled them in buffer areas between settlements. it was ineffective because the Native fighters were better regarded, higher in number at that time and knew their land better but it was a neat idea.
Yes. Most of them. The guy mentioned in video Sokollu Mehmet Pasha visited his family repeatedly. His brother was priest. He built a bridge his hometown. Also there is plenty of records about how janissaries sent money to their families.
5:40 Fun fact, his brother became the Patriarch of the Serbian Church and I think somewhere in Bosnia They made a statue of the two of them hugging, holding hands or smth
@@hattorihaso2579 Really? It seems this Serbian propaganda is accepted by not only Turks, but Bosnian Muslims as well: bs.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije_Sokolovi%C4%87
@@hattorihaso2579 Ok, from where did these two come? If they're not related but still have the same name, they would have to hundreds of miles apart, right?
@@saemonno-suke9959 No duh! The Janissaries were allowed to marry after retirement. The eunuch were castrated, and majority of the eunuch were Blacks brought from Africa.
@@tahiyattasdic Never once heard that, any source? Almost all could never marry, the eunuchs were Black because it would easier to tell who the children belong to.
Most feared infantry of the 15th, sure, of the 16th, that title probably goes to the Spanish tercios. The jannisaries themselves did not fare too well against them.
no it doesn't, Tercios weren't feared by anyone except tribal people in new World or Africa, also Tercios were afraid of Jannisaries too probably as Spain never encountered Ottoman army on 1v1, they needed all of Europe to just win 1 naval battle whic didn't stop the Ottoman expansion and Ottomans took Cyprus anyways
The Spanish actually enslaved Native American children and called them Genizaros (you guess what that means I can’t give you everything) to imitate them. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Spain could only run silver mines and brutalize less industrious people.
Most crushing Tercio defeat had the Tercios leave with their standards and arms, Janissary retreat has them strangle their sultan to death for trying to fix them. Curious.
@@oguzkaganonder1331Tercios didn't fight in either America or against tribal Africa. They were present only in Europe and the Mediterranean. The battle of Lepanto wasn't "all of Europe vs Ottomans", but a few cities from northern Italy and the Spanish Mediterranean against the Ottomans. They never had a pitch battle on land, but the naval battle of Lepanto had both fleets filled to the brim with their correspondent elites. And in that battle, which was mainly fought with boardings, the janissaries got clapped by the Tercios quite hard. Them conquering Cyprus was a given, since it was impossible to preserve that island given its geographic placement. But other than that, the Ottoman expansion on sea was completely stopped, and the threat of North-African corsairs severely reduced. So it was very worth it.
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Could you cover the training system and army of the Mamluk Sultanate.
Since it was one of the most professional and effective militaries in the entire medieval world, besting both Mongols and crusaders
(Until the chaos after anNasir Muhammad, afterwhich it became a failed state...)
Thx so much
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The janissaries were a double-edged weapon. This is what gave the Ottoman a superiority against European and Middle Eastern mamluk, Safavid, and aq qoyunlu
but after it was the janissaries and their corruption who blocked any change to modernization and Ottomans found themselves bypassed by European
Agreed, but I think they're more like a chef's knife: effective, wieldy and safe when sharp, but can cut you when otherwise
From what I've read so far, by the time they became less effective is when they were more corrupted. They lowered the standards for recruitment to keep recruiting, became traders and married(which is forbidden, but they did later on anyway), they don't have much wars to loot and pillage from, so they started extorting money and bullying anyone beneath them. I've read that some higher status janissaries refuse to go to war(this was around 18th to early 19th century)
what modernization ??? 😅
This is simply a systematic imitation of Western tyranny, classism, and extravagance
Keep in mind that this time was not during the reign of Sultan Mahmoud II, but rather a century earlier during the reign of Ahmed I, when he began to exhaust the state treasury by building French-style palaces and amusement parks... This is what will lead to popular anger and the movement of the elites and the army, and about decades later, the outbreak of the french revolution. and out on the royal family
Sultans, at least some of them, saw the corruption and tried to reform/disband them, like sultan selim III, who was quickly deposed, and mahmoud II, who succeeded to disband them. Some fled to then-Bosnian eyalet, which was sort-of attempting to gain autonomy(under husein-bey captain of gradačac) and reinstate at least some of the privileges the former/retired jannisaries had. Ofc sultan was having none of either and put a swift end on that bit of bosnian history.
It was always an archaic system of governance. Just look at how a new Sultan came to power. Lots of brothers and family members were quickly disposed of before any opposition could compete for control. They were a very efficient war machine with vast numbers and used the most modern equipment. Give credit where credits due. Like every great empire before and after they began to rest on their laurels, IMO. The rot always comes from within.
The problem was that the Ottomans decided to expand and bloat the Janissaries instead of being a niche elite force indocrinated since childhood to be completely subservient to the sultan.
*Elite guards become corrupted and start threatening emperor
Roman : Hey, I seen this one before.
Memluks were also the same
The house of Ottoman is the last dynasty of the Roman empire.
After the acclaimed Kingmakers: Praetorian Guard, comes another smash hit from Empires That Ruled Over Constantinople: Kingmakers 2: Janissaries. Watch as yet another elite group of soldiers morphs from royal guards into a royal pain in the ass.
laughed hard on this one.
Kingmakers 3, the Varangian guard crowned and uncrowned any Byzantine emperor who didnt go along with their whims
@@majorkalashinikov1277 nice effort but doesnt pack the punch of the OC
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Its very interesting how both the Janissaries and the Knights Templar in Europe were both destroyed when their respective leaders saw them as threats. The Knights Templar were massacred by the orders of King Philip IV (France) & Pope Clement V.
Except, Templars were never a part of palace coup :) An actual similar situation was Russian Streltsy
And janissaries were massacred by the orders of Mahmud the Second in 1826 and their order was abolished.
Search "Auspicious Incident" for more details.
The Templars were wealthy bankers, what happened to them followed that model. The popes predecessor have been beaten resulting in injuries leading to death by the King's men for refusing to go along with the plan, so he decided to make good on it, and then secretly pardoned the Templars afterwards. The Templars were never corrupted even if the mystery has fuelled rumours and fiction of that sort, they went to death martyrs to the avarice of a king of France.
@vorynrosethorn903 There were levels of corruption among the Templars just like any institution. Drop your sunday school Catholic propaganda! Lol
@@juniorjames7076 Yes, but they were not a satanic cult of goatee-wearing, cackling villains with goat legs, like propaganda painted them as. There was not much difference between them and the Italian banking families by that time.
In kazakh they are called jana seri, which means "new knight", because seri in our language means elite soldier or knight in medieval analogy.
And in Turkish they are called Yeniçeri, Yeni is Jana, and Çeri is Seri. Anatolian Turkish to Kazakh
In Chinese it's translated as "new army".
Ottomans to Christian boys:Want some candy kid?
Pisst....
Kid, want to fight for the sultan?
Hey little boy, would you like some Turkish delights?
Ottoman:I will let you drink two cups of Uludağ
"Hey kids, wanna be a part of the shadow government?"
Hay kid do you love my hat ? Do you want wear one ?
As a bulgarian fan of your channel I can't express my gratitude for you stopping to mention our viewpoint on the jannisaries,I have seen no other historian do so.My deepest thanks
It looks like the Russian 16th-century tactic was a copy of the Ottoman's one.
Especially the use of wagons and the absence of pikes (which sometimes led to catastrophes of musketeers vs cavalry massacre)
I imagine both were designed to fight well in the Russian steppe lmao
They might converently evolve to deal with similar enemies. Turks and Russian had regularly fought against both European knights and Eastern Turkmen/Tatar hordes.
Pikeman or pike and shot would not suit these variaty of enemies and both Russian and Turks lack plate armor tech to make infantry fisible.
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the times of the janissaries were very cruel, but man, the Ottoman empire, for all its glory and ingenuity, made cruelty a substantial part of its system.
For you it’s cruel for others it’s pragmatic.
if they were that cruel they wouldn't last over 5 centuries, the cruleler and more unjust system the less it will last as shown by history, Ottomans obviously weren't that bad unless you are some softie westerner seeing turks as monsters cause they arent white
@@gurkeschurke6667those are not mutually exclusive
for sure cruelty and terror were pillars of the empire. the mongol influence was strong. also western culture is heavily influenced by jesus christ so our tolerance for straight up evil is much lower than other places. when you read how the comanche killed and tortured jesuit missionsries, sometimes over years, makes you wonder if Godless heathen was more warning than insult
@@VigilantGuardian6750 I suppose you're one of these people who excuse and brush off Imperiaism and war crimes when the perpeturater isn't white? The Ottomans were just cruel and evil as any European Empire.
Slavers rolling into town, forcing a tithe of children for future soldiers....
Damn. Warhammer 40k strikes again.
It is so interesting seeing kingdoms early attempts at professional armies, and how eventually these establishments become powerful political forces. Varangians, Praetorian Guards, Mamaluks, and Janissaries.
The Janissaries were priviledged and the smart ones were selected to be raised as Pashas. So most of the Ottoman army and ruling class were those "slaves".
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Another great video! The only part I wish you included was about the intense rivalry between the Ottoman Sipahis and the Janissary Corps.
by design, I imagine.
It started later and I also wonder why not anybody thinking Janissaries were infantry because it's harder to flee as infantry and it's less prestigious to be infantry in most of the cultures so that prestige went to mostly ethnic Turk Sipahis
There is a Turkish proverb goes as: Atlı er baş kaldırmaz. Meaning cavalry don't rebel that is also a diss to Janissaries
@@tatarcavalry2342 Cause one had horses and one didn’t.
It would distract from the intention of the video, which is to appeal to the turkophobic audience.
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I swear if you dig through the comments enough you'll find someone saying "I'm a Janissary veteran and this video is false!"
Video: tells about the change of status from slaves to the shadow government, those slaves having many privileges(though, honestly, maybe it would be better not to use the term slave due to negative connotations), praising their military skill and how their discipline made them the elite who made foreign soldiers tremble.
Comments: "you're biased, showing the ottomans in negative light, undermining their achievements"
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They were still slaves though, at least the ones recruited trough devshirme which had to go trough years of indoctrination.
@@Vhite well, probably should have said that people are needed to be more frequently reminded that slavery, although was a status of direct subjigation, didn't necessarily involve mistreatment or lack of content of the enslaved person and that it was a very deep topic back in the day
@@Vhite What is the difference between them and the temple knights who were converted from paganism to Christianity and were drafted into the army? Were the people fighting for the king in the West fighting for themselves? Were they slaves of the king or the feudal lord? Also, they weren't slaves, that's your lie. Janissaries ruled the Ottoman Empire rather than the sultan, and the sultan was only the final approval authority. Janissaries rise in rank and become pasha. Pashas were related to the families of many Ottoman sultans. Which slave can marry the sultan's daughters or siblings?
@@yuzemir the difference is that janissaries were the direct property of the sultan, so they were slaves. Pretty simple logic and your paragraph of nuance doesnt change that fact.
Amazing research and very good summarization, thank you.
Dont talk to strangers or else youll end up a part of the islamic janissary guard of the ottoman empire
Could you cover the training system and army of the Mamluk Sultanate.
Since it was one of the most professional and effective militaries in the entire medieval world, besting both Mongols and crusaders
(Until the chaos after anNasir Muhammad, afterwhich it became a failed state...)
Yes please
7:40 The reason for this huge spike in numbers is because by the 17th century the devshirme system was abandoned and replaced with voluntary recruitment.
For Turks children 100 true 👍
Awesome as always
Can you do the mamluks next?
Thank you for mentioning that '''janisarry'' is the most humaliting way to call someone in Bulgarian
Every video about something that has the smell of islam in it, always have the most toxic comments section ever, whether it's from the hatred towards islam, or vice versa.
Yeah, as you saw it even in this video, those muslim Ottomans weren't really the good guys...
@@mistywanderer1787 Nobody was the good guys in history, except the Holy Prophet SAW
@@akg598thats a religious statement but no there were good people as well.
@@gs__1905-k7k remind me how muslims end up in iberian peninsula in the first place?
@@mistywanderer1787at least the ottoman didn't gradually got rid of native, unlike what happens in colonial era by almost all European major power
Always learn something new, thank you!
Love learning about the 17th and 16th century thanks for the vids. :)
Really interesting video. So thank you very much for this movie
Serbian boy:Exists
Ottomans:And I took that -Personally-
Ottoman sultan: gets skewed by Serbian knights
His descendents: "That's a talent we could use."
@@lolasdm6959 Serbian tsars and despots are slain one by one by Turkish soldiers
the same Serbs after losing all the battles: Oh man, we give up to our new Masters
@@lolasdm6959 Most of the time Serbians were loyal vassals of Ottomans.
@@tatarcavalry2342 most of the time Serbians were in no position to choose.
@@lolasdm6959 Yeah and this is human experience in short well said
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I'm surprized by how many people in the comment section try to justify the devshirme. Boys were taken away from their families, given new names, new religion, new identity, raised to blindly obey the Sultan, their ties with their real families were completely severed. Sometimes they were assigned to serve in harems -- then they were castrated.
It is true that some families made an active effort to have their sons taken hoping that it would give them great opportunities, but on the other hand many people did whatever they could to avoid it.
You're the one who's MASSIVELY overstating the negative impact of leaving your parents at an early age. For fuck's sake man, do you know that the life of a jannissary was better than 99% of the people on the planet? They lived like Sultans! They were trained in many many things to be the best. They had their shares of every plunder, every comfort. They were the best of the best.. and now in 2024 I see everybody crying like yOu tOoK tHeM fRoM thEIr moTHeRs!!! Do you know how many people TODAY would trade their lives to be a jannissary back in the day? Even the title of the video says "SLAVE" soldiers.. geez lay off the victim mentality for crying out loud! Yes, they might have had no choice when taken, their families stricken with grief (100 times better than being killed and looted honestly) but they lived like KINGS. Unlike the ACTUAL slaves the United States used to harbor. There is a MASSIVE difference and all the whining you and your ilk does is just pure idiocy.
@@tetefather
Are you muslm?
They were given massive salaries and lived rather better than avarage in middle ages
@@tetefatherpeople are ignorant. I am a descendant of the janissaries. They were not slaves. They were like Spartans. Given education and army training. In the army they were treated like Sultans. These are what I been taught in my family through generations. I still have letters from my ancestor during janissaries time. The media is lying. They were not slaves at all. They were elite warriors with very high education too. They were not stolen from their family. They were given to the army because their families were very poor and couldn't afford to take care of them. It's was like nowadays parents send kids to orphanage. Any other janissaries descendant like me will confirm what I am saying. My rich life today is thanks to my janissaries ancestor. He came from a family who could not afford to feed him and the army made him a wealth and educated man.
@@tetefather and them having a chance at a better life made it ok? Was it ok for the jannisaries that were taken from their families and reeducated only to die brutally in their first battle?
Needs no explanation, it was slavery. Unless you’d like to discuss the copious amount of slaves that were in the Ottoman Empire
Excellent video on a great topic
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This was a long awaited one! Awesome work
Turks when the boys they forced to serve them become highly disloyal and often kill the sultan: 😱😱😱😱😰
Say you didn't watch the video without, saying you didn't watch the video:
Boys were loyal late era Janissaries were mostly not devshirme
@@rodrigorafael.9645 Sem tempo, irmão.
The boys who were taken stayed as loyal bodyguards, but when the Janissaries started letting other people join without the same training then they became rebellious
Contrary to common knowledge, Devshirme (Ottomans making high staff governors and well-paid soldiers out of farmer children) was very desired by minority parents for their children, for instance Bosnians were severely complaining to sultans about their children not being taken for Devshirme, because they were muslim.
Imagine being ultra-nationalistic and brainwashed you justify stealing children from their parents and slave-driving....
@@nvelsen1975 if you think its anything less than a lottery win for the kid you are brain damaged. For the family however its cruel but it is what it is.
Excellent documentary... Thank you!
The Janissaries are hands down some of the most unique warriors n soldiers or world history. Great video.
Always this Turkish keyboard warriors from Berlin trying to wash history
What is happening in the comment section, this must be a troll forum or group that is doing this shit in every video
Turk being what turk do best
Calling whatever history fact that make them look bad’s zionist propaganda
I am a Turkish history teacher. Your explanation is excellent but the way you pronounce Turkish words is very funny :) I still recommend your videos to my students. All very informative
I'm polish. Family's name is Janiski. What does this mean ?
@@GabrielJanisin Turkish it is Yeni çeriler , not janissaries ..
@@gbg975But it's still Turkish. The word Jannisary breaks down to Yeni, new and çeri, troops.
Love this video BTW. Very insightful.❤️💯
well produced and exciting to watch.
DO NOT ASK A TURK WHAT DID THE JANISSARIES DO TO LITTLE ALBANIAN BOYS IN THE 17TH CENTURY
why?
😂😂😂
Please do the mamluks next
Fun fact the loyal artillery men that would be the end of the jannssaries would another elite unit of the empire who were at the same rank as the jannssaries and were their rivals
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Very nice video. Love your animations
Love this channel
Sweep it up, Janissaries! They do it for free.
they did not completely disappear in 1827 we find in certain French sources stories which testify to the presence of janissaries in Algiers in 1830
It’s so cool and strange that they were obsessed with strict rules guidelines and regulations to their daily living and order… but in battle they were against formations such as strange ideal to the modern soldier… not wrong but strange
First of all, thank you for your educating videos.
Second, as I grew up amidst the books, one of my favourite way back when was "Stars of Eger" ("Eger csillagok" by Gardonyi Geza). The story itself falls into the same timeline as many of your videos do- middle period of 16th century. Would you be willing to make a video of siege of Eger aswell ?! :)
I do appologise, if you have already covered it in your previous videos, however, it was (in my teens) the most epic tales of all time! :)
An interesting fact that is not said is that the Janissaries were, in all likelihood, the first modern professional army to use uniforms in Europe, since other armies would not take this path until practically the middle of the 17th century. A question that I have always had with the Janissaries is: How much inspiration did they take from the Mamluks? And what are the most obvious differences in the way they were organized? I think it deserves a separate video to talk about a comparison between the two units, with many similarities, since one precedes the other and they were very successful at their respective times.
Great suggestion. Both were slave elite troops of Islamic empires. It seems that the Ottomans did a better job of training their elite slaves to be loyal, as the Janissaries only revolted when they lost their cohesion as enslaved Christians. I believe the Mamluks were Turkish slaves and already Muslim.
in Memlûk arabs took Turkish boys as slaves and maske them soldiers. İn ottomans Turks took slavic boys as slaves and make them soldiers.
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They were basically spartans of early modern times. Recruited at young age, raped, tortured, brainwashed, overworked, and when they ready for their first battle they either become a high ranked statesman or a rotten corpse in battlefield.
At the least they were not serving white supremacy /s
I heard in somewhere that christian families would actually be okay with this? As there sons could achieve higher social status and mobility when serving rather than them just being a Christian family
Depends on the families. The devout one would raise hell. Others would move mountains for one of their children to be levied as Janissaries. They, the Janissaries', become so powerful that they become political clout 'representing' their homeland in the Ottoman court.
Well, there have always been parents willing to sell their own children into slavery.
Yes, was varied. Some christian families rightly saw the Janissary corps as a mechanism for social advancement. And muslim families also recognized this and got upset that their sons were denied this power, to the point that in the 1600s as the Janissaries became more of a praetorian guard, muslim families demanded and got the right to have their children inducted
@sebastienhardinger4149 Yep, 18-19th century Janissaries are wild. They can change sultans at will.
ottomans were at some point more of a euro-balkan empire than anatolian/asian one exactly cause of this, too many white balkan peeps got into places of power in the government
Awesome video.
Learned a lot about the public school system, thank you 😊
nice video
Uniforms were worn by the Janissaries before any other European army until the mid-seventeenth century, making them the first modern professional army in Europe. How much the Janissaries owed to the Mamluks is something I've frequently pondered. How did their respective organizations differ most notably? A separate video should compare the two units, which are similar, since one was successful in its time and came before the other.
They were the first standing army who didint disband
I think the main difference is that the Janisarries and the Devshirme in general are more centralised than the Mamluks, Ghulams that existed before. Mamluks/Ghulams were bought and sold by individual masters and also instructed by them or someone the master chose. This type of Mamluk still existed in the Ottoman empire through their vassals in the Mamluks of Egypt until the very end.
One might say, they went with a bang.
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There were so many Bosnian janissaries that Bosnian was a second language in Istanbul by the mid-17th century.
Bosnia was the backbone of the conquest of Hungary, possibly also what would later become Romania.
Bosnia is such a tiny nation though
@@tylerclayton6081 Bosnia singlehandedly defeated Prince Hildburghausen's 150 000-man HRE army (Germans/Saxons & Austrians, Hungarians, Croats, Slavonan Serbs) with 5 000 regulars and 25 000 civilian volunteers in 1737-1739, while the whole Ottoman army was busy in Ukraine.
I lived for one year in a suburb in Istanbul called Yeni Bosna (New Bosnia). I loved the neighborhood!
Bosnian wasn't a nationality until the late 20th century, what are you on?
@@aleksakuljanin2442 You're lying because you're a Serb. Serbs are seething that they can't conquer other countries, and try to pathetically disprove genetics and history for the sake of expansion.
Manuel Komnenos commissioned to have "Emperor of the Bosnians" etched into the Hagia Sophia in 1166. Bosnia was under Hungarian suzerainty at that time, so curb your stupid "it's just about a passport" - passports didn't even exist in the middle ages. Meanwhile, Ioannes Skylitzes wrote in the 11th century that Serbs are a little tribe of Croats who tried to steal Bulgarian land. Now go cry in a corner while Kosovo finishes its secession and your country falls apart.
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People wrongfully assume Ottomans did this devshirme practice to access to a new pool of manpower. The real aim was to create an elite soldier that had no tribal ties. You cant enslave Turks because they are Muslim and therefore you cant break their tribal ties. While other Turkish beys had to please all the chiefs in their lands to gather an army, Ottomans had a centralised elite core.
For a very long time janissaries had very anectodal numbers. 500, 1000, 6000 and so on. The backbone of the army was the provincial cavalry. It grew in time because of the military revolution in Europe that required Ottomans to deploy more riflemen. As the video stated they couldnt sustain the numbers merely with devshirme anymore so sons of janissaries and Turks were taken into the corps. After that point the number of the corps dramatically increased 30.000 40.000 etc. Of course the old discipline was gone when the number was this high.
They also created a new army called sekban from Turks who were also riflemen later on.
Discipline ruined mainly because they got right for normal people stuff like marrying, having other jobs etc.
Just someone trying to justify the horrific practice of Devshirme. ONE or TWO guys were risen to high rang. Therefor the 100s of thousand others enslave them and fight wars constantly.
@@shergy1000 he literally used the word enslave buddy what you on about
@@tatarcavalry2342 Explain what you mean my friend?
@@shergy1000 This is not a justification of devshirme system this is just an explanation of it and of course they were seen inferior that's why they got chosen for process just like the simple fact that they were founded as infantry because it's harder to flee as infantry and in many cultures it's more prestigious to be cavalry that applies for Turks too
The amount people in the comments justifying this specific form of slavery cuz Western nations conducted chattel slavery(Turks did too) is disturbing
I am surprised as well.
This slavery talks are just lie my friend. Even this century this kind of lies can be told. Nobody can give their childrens to arm as a slave. If you take the children from their family with using force, that Child will gonna be against to you when he grow up!!
@@erennartgun7240no, they were absolutely slaves, taken against their will amd brainwashed, it was a horrific practice.
They were at the top of social hierarchy. Calling this slavery is ignoramous.
@@daveweiss5647 Sorry mate but it is lie, lies of the defeated enemy of Ottomans. I mean Ottomans take the childrens willingly not buy evil act not by force.
If bosnian historiographers are to be believed, after it was conquered and later established as a border province of the ottoman empire, bosnian muslims requested that their boys too be part of devshirme system(which was granted), and many of them found their way both into the court and the jannisary corps. Sokollu Mehmed Pasha(or Mehmed-paša Sokolović, as he's usually called) was one of those bosnian boys.
Bosnian and Ottoman relations were always profitable.
@@esoterra8050 There are also the stories of their involvement as part of ottoman army, like how they got majority of hungarian nobility killed in one battle that favored the ottoman cavalry(1492), or in already mentioned mohacs, they would have been at vienna gates the second time(when suleiman the magnificent died at sziget, and sokollu mehmed pasha suppressed the news of it to save army morale), the fall of majority of bosnian muslim sepahi in 1593, whose relatives gained the right of inheritance of land and service(usually was for life only), list goes on. Profitable indeed.
There is archival information about this. Similar case we find in Albania too. Ottoman Turnacibashi was informed not to take children who were overly enthusiastic or not to accept bribes from people who wanted to put their children into the Janissary Order. This video should have used accurate Ottoman Archival Data which are public. But then again its not always his agenda to inform people of the facts. Take a look at this: belleten.gov.tr/tam-metin/248/eng
My ex-girlfriend's family were Turk/Bosnian Bektaşi (Bektashi) sect. They are a really laid back Sufi sect and NOT strict at all. I drank beer and rakı all the time with the father.
Bosnian wasn't a nationality until the late 20th century. Go and learn something for once in your life. Those were muslim Serbs and Croats
The Turks are offering the Christian boys "Turkish Delight."
I think that polearms used by the Janissaries are heavily underappreciated. Maybe the iconography or some weird western concept of lightly armored ottomans played into this. In fact, Janissaries were heavy infantry, up armored and equipped with spears (mizrak) and axes (baltadji). Especially their "stormtroopers" such as serdengeçti or zirhli nefer.
Janissaries also fought behind war wagons, often using guns, while heavily armored cavalry such as the sipahi would storm enemy units.
There is no other way they would have won so many battles against heavily armored european knights.
One thing I'd like to point out from the start that "Tabur Cengi" literally means Battalion War. Are you sure It's not Something like Tabur-i Cengi which translates to Battalion of War. Tho I might be mistaken because as a turkish speaker it caught my attention as weird
Cool video, I always wanted to know more about the Jannissaries.
The Slave part is partially true, they were slaves, kul, to the Sultans, but kul is rather something like the relationship of a peasant to an European king, like serf. They were more like the Praetorian Guard, killing and setting up kings and terrorizing peasants. The system was adopted by Turks from the Persians and Arabs, who bought up enslaved Turks from the markets because they were deemed warriors since birth and turned them into elite guards who had no kinship to the locals, supposingly preventing revolts, called Ghulams and Mamlukes.
there are always big misconceptions in videos like these. People always overlook the fact that ottomans never took boys from families where they were an only child, and families would voluntarily send their sons to become janissaries because that meant that they can get education, and most importantly, that they can get their own land
He did say they didn't take from families with just a single boy (nor from Jewish families). There were clearly advantages and privileges to being a Janissary seen in this video.
Perhaps one of the most long-lasting, large-scale, mass examples of Stockholm syndrome in the history of the world! Truly heartbreakingly sad, especially for the families that they were ripped away from as kids, as well as their mortal souls in eternity.
That was white people did to native american children!
No that is when Asian people did it to White people. We Bulgarians who were genocided systematicaly,whose children were kidnaped always wondered what kind of impudent idiots can make such accusation from very dirthy souls@@Hasanbas-rv3vm
@@carlustin4034 are you stupid?
@@oguzkaganonder1331 No, but you are a turk.
@@Hasanbas-rv3vm They did not recruit them forcefully to the US army, they fought wars, but no kidnappings into the army.
LETS JUST MAKE THIS CLEAR. The ages of the boys were generally between 14 and 19 years old. At that time, most of these recruitments were voluntary and many applications were turned down.
What conditions do you think rural people lived in in the 15th and 16th centuries? Do you think they are preparing for university exams, studying to become doctors and engineers, etc.? A historical event must be evaluated on its own terms. Imagine that you are in a family with 5 children who are farmers. Your father, your grandfather and his father were all farmers. Would you give up the chance to live, work and study in İstanbul, in the dream city of that time? And after receiving training, you have the possibility of rising to high ranks such as vizier, pasha or even grand vizier. Also, if you can improve yourself, you can also have jobs such as being a doctor or an architect outside the army. There are examples of all of these in history. This is a chance to get rich. Also, do not mind that the Janissaries were slaves, their financial situation was quite good. Or stay in your village and continue cleaning your cow's dung from the ground, the choice is yours.
That sounds like a terrible excuse and justification for an appalling practice of forcibly enslaving boys. Taking them far from the families, who they would never see again. Making them convert to another religion, and then forcing them through a tough life of training, and then fighting for a country that occupied theirs. Being banned from marrying or until 40 years old or having property. And you say we shouldnt mind that they were slaves? The great majority of young boys recruited were not voluntary at all. Did you watch the video? They were forcibly recruited using the 'devşirme' system. of child levy enslavement, by which Christian Albanians, Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Greeks, Romanians, Serbs and Ukrainians were taken, levied, subjected to forced circumcision and conversion to Islam, and incorporated into the Ottoman army. These boys would probably never see the families, they were forcibly removed from, again, in their life. Whatever their families situation, Im sure they would have preferred it, if they were even given the choice, of staying in their community, to being enslaved into the army, of an occupying power. Im sure their parents would also have hated this too.
@@TheEggmaniac that's just history
@@TheEggmaniac the never seeing their families part is bullshit, they often ended up ruling their home regions, like Skanderbeg. The restrictions were lifted over time due their immense political power, barring Turks or others from entering the corps and placing their own relatives.
Why lie so much. Kids where taken by force and while still a baby or 2 - 3 years of age.
@@brainblox5629 Skenderbeg was not a janisarry. He was a Serb leader in the south Serbia and a vasal.
Hide your kids Turks are reading the comments!
You should hide your kids from your own priests maybe?
I heard they all kept a spoon in their hats.
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Im glad someone is talking about ottoman opression of Balkans. Many dont know that ottoman occupation was more colonization, exploitation and destruction of local culture and enslavement then just conquest.
Then how come you guys maintain your language and religion? In africa most people speak English or French and are Christians. A legacy of colonization. But you guys could maintain yours. And the colonization of africa didnt even last as long as the ottomans rule in the balkans. Something tells me they were more tolerant with their "colonization".
@@Imperator-vo4to because we didnt let ourself be genocided? Ever thought about that? So you are saying Armenian genocide never happend because 100% of Armenians arent killed? You are part of problem we face every day, oh living under ottomans wasnt that bad. Yea them destroying cultural heritage of your people to build mosques is totally not genocide. Balkans being slaves to muslims for 500 years totally didnt made us poor. Losing millions due to muslim enslavement totally didnt f up our demographics. Muslims never existed in Balkans, until muslims genocided, colonized and enslaved Balkans. Albania exists because of islamic colonization of Balkans, genocide of Greeks and because of Austria creating Albania. Bosnia exists because of islamic colonization of Bosnia and genocide to native Croat and Serb population. But do you know what doesnt exist? Greeks in Anatolia who were in Anatolia from ancient times. But yea keep defending ottomans, one day because of your hate towards Slavs you might end up like Greeks in Anatolia, or like Armenians in Armenia, or like Bulgarians in Bulgaria when they wanted to end ottoman rule. I guess western Europeans will never learn what is life until they find themself on frontlines with enemy that hates your existance for 500 years. And im 100% sure you arent Spanish because they know what is like to defend yourself from someone like ottomans.
@@Imperator-vo4to Simple put, you are wrong. First, most people in Africa speak both there tribal language and "colonial" language. Success of conversion is also mix, with result being weird combination of local beliefs and christianity.
And while it is fact that Ottomans offered cultural autonomy to Balkan people, they also massacred, clensed and converted part of those same Balkan people, which really puts question on that autonomy and tolerance which you claim was somehow higher in Balkans compared to Africa and Asia.
@@aleksaradojicic8114sorry man, the ottomans were the PIONEERS of the African slave trade.. Look up the eastern African slave trade by the ottomans in the Indian sea. Centuries before these African countries were white colonized, they were slave exported by Turks😮. All slave masters are bad, this video just highlights how bad the ottomans were to the Balkan people. STOP comparing levels of slavery, it’s all bad and should all be discussed!!!
@nickzaichuk7457 no, the African themselves and Arabs were pioneers of African slave trade.
In the end its the Artillery who are the kings of battles
The Janissaries were originally and primarily drawn from the conquered Medieval South Slavic states of Bulgaria, Serbia, and Bosnia and Herzegovina. They were not castrated and they were not slave-soldiers like the Saqaliba, the Ghulam, the Kul, and the Mamelukes, they had to perform a compulsory military service for a fixed period, and upon completing the said military service, they would be free to do as they see fit, the majority remained in the service of the Ottoman Porte due to its (originally) revolutionary meritocratic features.
Many Greeks and Albanians originally not Slavs
Excellent video! Just one thing:
jataGan
The g is like in Aga ;)
Thanks.
In western occuped europe it s not a common knowledge sadly.
Like bacha bazi too..
People think they are free from History and faith..a mistake to self destruction.
I showed my video to my Albanian friend he turned into a Janissary.
The comment section is a mess
When you get the Turks and the Balkans involved it’s always a mess
Biggest source of Janissary was Serbia. Its was called "Tax in blood" and it was done for nearly 400 years. Sons would be taken while there where babies so they would not remember there family. Serbs that converted to Muslims got to avoid that tax and became muslim population we have today in Balkans. Near the end of service there was a practice of killing Janissaryes that rose in the ranks of Ottomans. Famous case is Mehmed Pasha Sokolovic, a Serb Janissary which rose to rank of Grand Vizier. He was strangled when deemed to powerful. There where slaves without a doubt, just glamour slaves.
Nope, the biggest source of Janassary was from sub-russian lands, especially Crimea
proud turkish servants
Yeah, babies can't fight for like 15 years buddy, terrible investment, close to adolescence is more accurate and they did remember their families, you literally mentioned Sokollu Mehmet Pasha, who commissioned the building of the famous Mostar bridge in Sarajevo, where he was from. I'm pretty sure he would have not done that had he been made to forget his his birthplace.
Why were Jewish families spared from recruitment?
We all know why the sons of judas were exempt, it would be anti sneitism for them to haft to server as anything less than a general.
Jews were mostly merchants at the time and notorious pacifists in accordance with Jewish Law. They paid, also, to remain autonomous.
The reason is that Jewish society is an urban society.
One of the basic principles of the Devshirme institution is that city servants are not accepted into the hearth, because city servants have an open mind, they can belong to various movements and currents.
Why would the Ottomans care about anti-semitism at all...@@qefucan7591
@@AsiminNeslinden So the Ottoman Empire was afraid of being subverted from within is what I'm getting from that answer.
ottoman : wanna be a successful grown-ups man ( weath, social status etc) and wanna be a military subject of superpower Nation ( during middle age)
This was the Janissary slogan;
O enemies of Allah and O enemies of Muhammad,
You are infidels, we are grateful; you are one side, we are another.
There is only one God and Muhammad is his messenger.
Yes muhmamad the clasic example of false prophet
@@ivanvidojevic2461 omg u r the guys who call Jesus god, right?? 😂😂😂
@@timurbarlas1144 my comment was deleted,strange
@@timurbarlas1144 yes most of the people in world belive in Christ's divinity
@@ivanvidojevic2461 What you believe is your own business, is there a need for inter-religious polimic here? This is just the slogan of the Janissary in the Ottoman period. I don't think it has anything to do with Muhammad or Jesus for us.
I wonder if the Janissaries inspired Star Wars?? “Some of them never manage to join the corps, instead working various trades, but the rest of them undergo military training” is almost spot-on for the Jedi Order, except its lightsaber/combat training more so than strictly military training.
Very interesting
Spain implemented their own version of Janissaries in the new world called ‘Genizaros’ notably from Apaches and Pueblos enslaving native boys and resettled them in buffer areas between settlements. it was ineffective because the Native fighters were better regarded, higher in number at that time and knew their land better but it was a neat idea.
they also had their own jizyah system called "Paria", worked pretty much same way as muslim one
Janissaries were the ex Byzantine elite archers but ended up become Praetorian guards with muskets.
the first of the Janissaries were these ex-Byzantine archers, correct. But the Devşirme system was used from then on until ofc it wasn't.
Question: Did any Janissaries maintain ties with their former Christian families?
Yes. Most of them. The guy mentioned in video Sokollu Mehmet Pasha visited his family repeatedly. His brother was priest. He built a bridge his hometown. Also there is plenty of records about how janissaries sent money to their families.
Yes. Why wouldn't they?
Interesting that the Jannisarries kind of have a similar ending as the Knights Hospitilar.
5:40 Fun fact, his brother became the Patriarch of the Serbian Church and I think somewhere in Bosnia
They made a statue of the two of them hugging, holding hands or smth
Serbian propaganda they wjere in no way shape or form connected
@@hattorihaso2579 Really?
It seems this Serbian propaganda is accepted by not only Turks, but Bosnian Muslims as well:
bs.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije
tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije_Sokolovi%C4%87
@@ZS-rw4qq thats what decades of propaganda will do the men had the same last name but where not related in any way shape or form
@@hattorihaso2579 Ok, from where did these two come? If they're not related but still have the same name, they would have to hundreds of miles apart, right?
@@hattorihaso2579 Don't you think Turks would know this? After all, they very meticulous in writing, they wouldn't miss an opportunity to record it
Some of these Janissaries´s grand grand grandsons became rulers of todays modern Turkey. That is guaranteed
except they were castrated
Do you think all of them were?@@saemonno-suke9959
@@saemonno-suke9959not true
@@saemonno-suke9959 No duh! The Janissaries were allowed to marry after retirement. The eunuch were castrated, and majority of the eunuch were Blacks brought from Africa.
@@tahiyattasdic Never once heard that, any source? Almost all could never marry, the eunuchs were Black because it would easier to tell who the children belong to.
Most feared infantry of the 15th, sure, of the 16th, that title probably goes to the Spanish tercios. The jannisaries themselves did not fare too well against them.
no it doesn't, Tercios weren't feared by anyone except tribal people in new World or Africa, also Tercios were afraid of Jannisaries too probably as Spain never encountered Ottoman army on 1v1, they needed all of Europe to just win 1 naval battle whic didn't stop the Ottoman expansion and Ottomans took Cyprus anyways
virgin Castilian sheep herder boys vs Chad Balkan Mountain men 😂
The Spanish actually enslaved Native American children and called them Genizaros (you guess what that means I can’t give you everything) to imitate them. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Spain could only run silver mines and brutalize less industrious people.
Most crushing Tercio defeat had the Tercios leave with their standards and arms, Janissary retreat has them strangle their sultan to death for trying to fix them. Curious.
@@oguzkaganonder1331Tercios didn't fight in either America or against tribal Africa. They were present only in Europe and the Mediterranean.
The battle of Lepanto wasn't "all of Europe vs Ottomans", but a few cities from northern Italy and the Spanish Mediterranean against the Ottomans.
They never had a pitch battle on land, but the naval battle of Lepanto had both fleets filled to the brim with their correspondent elites. And in that battle, which was mainly fought with boardings, the janissaries got clapped by the Tercios quite hard.
Them conquering Cyprus was a given, since it was impossible to preserve that island given its geographic placement. But other than that, the Ottoman expansion on sea was completely stopped, and the threat of North-African corsairs severely reduced. So it was very worth it.