i hoped this video will shine some light on how valve are killing KZ by 1) destroying the public server search and 2) destroying movement with subtick, also ramps on surf
couldnt agree more with you on the public server search. cant believe they removed that, it was there for over 20 years, you cant just remove it like that wtf second, is it still possible to KZ with subtick? how is it killing kz? feel bad for the community
@@hearTelus i havent played anything community based on cs2 due to the stupid server search but i was part of a big kz amd surf community in csgo and from what others have shared - subtick makes it very hard to consistently jump both in lenght and in height due to the programming while surf has been killed because doing smooth ramps has become basically impossible for mappers on the new engine due to the collisions
@@hearTelusjumping is very inconsistent, ie. you get different units every jump. you could go up 20 units or you could go up 45 units very inconsistent due to sub tick. long jumping is very hard now because new plugins have to be made for prestrafing which the ones out now are still being tested and very buggy. becuse of sub tick you no longer can consistently bhop it is very random and the threshold in which you can hit a bhop. kz servers usually have 3 modes. vnl- vanilla. kzt- kz timer. and normal or kzs- kz simple. vanilla works but with all those previously mentioned buggy mess intertwined. and normal has to use a plugin that propels the player forward whenever you land after jumping. instead of previous versions of normal mode which just increases the amount of velocity you gain when jumping and strafing
giantbean was indeed the first kz map with a start/stop button and a timer. It was also the first time any of his maps were played outside of his Clan's server.
i run a 1.6 kz server with over 4000 maps (insane, i know!) great video, and thanks for helping to bring kz to the masses :) suggestion: detailed KZ tutorials for each technique in 1.6 (cuz there really aren't any in english)
@@walter1824 oh man there are so many bangers, but some favorites in no particular order: cg_cbblebhop kzlu_magicjazz kz_wsp_marioland all of the vvn1ght commissions (except the extreme/death maps lol) chk_luna chk_serotonin k_ice ksz_building notkz_amazing kz_ins_trainrun mls_tabyn mls_dusthop I'm not gonna post the IP here cuz this isn't my platform to advertise on, but if you check gametracker for US East servers running kz maps, you'll find it eventually :)
I remember playing the map Xunlian a long time ago and never realized the objective of the map was to climb until the end. Aside from that, Kreedz Climbing is a pretty cool mod and it is truly a shame that is falling apart and the playerbase keeps declining.
Ah yes the giantbean. I remember the gold one the most. Golden era of 1.6 death run was also fun back then. Before all the custom knives with, like speed, gravity and other nonsense, autobhop and even timers.
Hi dezolance love your videos but I have a question. I've been enjoying kz for like 15 years but I never knew how to do HJs like I know Ljs and BHOPs (most used ones) but HJs alwys get the better of me do any of you guys have an explanation how to do that or am I missing a point and it's similar to LJ?
For high jumps, do count jump (cj) or stand-up count jump (scj). It will be hard to master it, but once you practice enough, you can pretty much use it to jump anywhere :)
PLEASE enable widescreen field of view in hl1 and cs1.6. as if playing native 16:9 wasn't bad enough, you're using significantly lower fov. actually eye bleeding otherwise great video lol
I will still read KZ as Kazahstan
Pls no
kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world !
yes and no
@@Mango-vb3vg i cant do anything about it. Its inside my brain now
@@sereganeonoviy Kz -> kreedz kazakhstan
i hoped this video will shine some light on how valve are killing KZ by 1) destroying the public server search and 2) destroying movement with subtick, also ramps on surf
couldnt agree more with you on the public server search. cant believe they removed that, it was there for over 20 years, you cant just remove it like that wtf
second, is it still possible to KZ with subtick? how is it killing kz? feel bad for the community
@@hearTelus i havent played anything community based on cs2 due to the stupid server search but i was part of a big kz amd surf community in csgo and from what others have shared - subtick makes it very hard to consistently jump both in lenght and in height due to the programming while surf has been killed because doing smooth ramps has become basically impossible for mappers on the new engine due to the collisions
@@hearTelusjumping is very inconsistent, ie. you get different units every jump. you could go up 20 units or you could go up 45 units very inconsistent due to sub tick. long jumping is very hard now because new plugins have to be made for prestrafing which the ones out now are still being tested and very buggy. becuse of sub tick you no longer can consistently bhop it is very random and the threshold in which you can hit a bhop. kz servers usually have 3 modes. vnl- vanilla. kzt- kz timer. and normal or kzs- kz simple. vanilla works but with all those previously mentioned buggy mess intertwined. and normal has to use a plugin that propels the player forward whenever you land after jumping. instead of previous versions of normal mode which just increases the amount of velocity you gain when jumping and strafing
giantbean was indeed the first kz map with a start/stop button and a timer. It was also the first time any of his maps were played outside of his Clan's server.
i run a 1.6 kz server with over 4000 maps (insane, i know!)
great video, and thanks for helping to bring kz to the masses :)
suggestion: detailed KZ tutorials for each technique in 1.6 (cuz there really aren't any in english)
4000 !?!
Do you have a favorite map ? (or a top 5/top 10)
Where can we find the server btw
@@walter1824 oh man there are so many bangers, but some favorites in no particular order:
cg_cbblebhop
kzlu_magicjazz
kz_wsp_marioland
all of the vvn1ght commissions (except the extreme/death maps lol)
chk_luna
chk_serotonin
k_ice
ksz_building
notkz_amazing
kz_ins_trainrun
mls_tabyn
mls_dusthop
I'm not gonna post the IP here cuz this isn't my platform to advertise on, but if you check gametracker for US East servers running kz maps, you'll find it eventually :)
@@walter1824 lots of good ones
cg_cbblebhop, pixelhop, kzlu_magicjazz are a few favs (also anything by mls or chk)
@@walter1824 any map by mls or chk
they're great mappers!
@@walter1824 too many favorites to choose from lol, but I really like pixelhop and cbblebhop!
it's insane how KZ still alive today
@@Ashraf-Hrira cs2 is hanging on for dear life
great games never die
@@arc-sd8sk cs2 is currently terrible
@@arc-sd8sk I mean with the heavy focus on competitive play it's a odd that something niche like KZ still surviving today even in CS2
@@imadecoy I know :(((
kz 1.6 the best game of the world
nico legend
CS2 KZ is really fun, and the binds aren't as bad as it sounds. It just needs time, because there aren't many maps right now.
nowhere near 1.6's level though
@@sparda_ 1.6 feels slow and slippery compared to csgo KZ which was the best and even CS2 which is slightly worse
@@rudecs nah they just different gamemodes atp with similar skills. Cus bhopping in 1.6 has more depth but comboing sucks the maximum amount of balls
Keep it Up
a beautiful thing to see as a 1.6 kzer thank u for this
I've played for years, never knew KZ was someones name. Pretty cool
It may sound weird to some, but this game mode in cs 1.6 along with the XJ community was a big part of my teenage life and I love that :D.
as long as we can play kz will still live
(also love the usage of the mvc2 soundtrack, liked the video for that alone :p)
great video! climbing is eternal, kz is forever
good job brother
So much thought and research is put into this. I like how you custom make the pictures for each idea. This deserves so many more views.
I remember playing the map Xunlian a long time ago and never realized the objective of the map was to climb until the end.
Aside from that, Kreedz Climbing is a pretty cool mod and it is truly a shame that is falling apart and the playerbase keeps declining.
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thanks for making video for our history
great video. imagine if valve added hns mode or even just knifing to pick sides like faceit.. one can dream
Ah yes the giantbean. I remember the gold one the most. Golden era of 1.6 death run was also fun back then. Before all the custom knives with, like speed, gravity and other nonsense, autobhop and even timers.
i hate how the movements have become so restricted, but i'm an old quake player. i miss the old beta CS versions with no restrictions
Thanks ! :D
Everyone forgets about concjumping in TFC
i hope momentum mod will make it popular again
@@Rolmoststill didnt get Access After a year lol
@@figuringg I got it almost instantly after requesting a couple of years ago
@@Rolmost should drop any day now, right?
And quake defrag
Good one.
My sweety game, i love 1.6 kz for ever❤
kreedz would be proud
Hey great vid, keep it up
valve broke cs2 kz and surf with sub tick ...............
Hi dezolance love your videos but I have a question. I've been enjoying kz for like 15 years but I never knew how to do HJs like I know Ljs and BHOPs (most used ones) but HJs alwys get the better of me do any of you guys have an explanation how to do that or am I missing a point and it's similar to LJ?
For high jumps, do count jump (cj) or stand-up count jump (scj). It will be hard to master it, but once you practice enough, you can pretty much use it to jump anywhere :)
You mention not seeing slide as surf. Why?
surf is played on 100aa, slide on 10aa.
Fire.
Any eggplonts in this gamemode?
cs 1.6 kz forever
The CS2 Only Up maps are pretty similar
Can you make video about JailBreak mod?
hiii :3
Ah yes.. Kz the hated child of Valve
1.6 has more techniques than the later versions of cs, cj gs no longer possible in source and up
Fell off so hard
Cs did ya
cs2 kz is dead, surf on life support w/ all the ramp bugs...
PLEASE enable widescreen field of view in hl1 and cs1.6. as if playing native 16:9 wasn't bad enough, you're using significantly lower fov. actually eye bleeding
otherwise great video lol
black bars imo
FINALLY! BUT NOW WHOLE CS1.6 KZ-COMMUNITY IS A DISASTER.
Cs2 killed movement
n1
Quake bhoppers > CS bhoppers
powerhopping is cringe
True
It;s crazy that there's so much mechanical depth in 1.6 movements that it's so difficult to master them all.
thanks for this video