BBC World Debate ⎜WHY POVERTY?
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2012
- This Debate is part of a global event hosted by the BBC and 50 other broadcasters around the world. The debate explores the causes of and cures for the enduring problem of severe poverty which still affects many people in the world.
It was recorded in front of a live audience in Johannesburg earlier this year. On the panel are Tony Blair, former UK Prime Minister; Oby Ezekwesili from the Open Society Foundation, Africa and a former Nigerian government minister; Moeltesi Mbeki, South African author and Chair of SA Institute of International Affairs; and Vandana Shiva, Indian activist, environmentalist and scientist. Chaired by Zeinab Badawi.
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I just love this Indian woman, she talks senses.
Why don't we have more people like her on this beautiful planet ?
EXACTLY. 👏👏👏💖
Ironically, the poor people even can't get the opportunity to participate in this debate.
you are 100% right
The best comment
So true
What is poverty? I see a few people on this panel that are poor.. Poor minded such as Blair..
FACTS!!!!!!
Hats off Vandana Shiva, truly an icon!
I love the lady sitting behind Vadana because she looks so happy and proud every time Vandana speaks
I also love this smiling girl
That woman is Puleng LenkaBula who is now the first ever female vice-chancellor of the University of South Africa (UNISA)!
aww! ❤️ tv!
a certain group seems to be below the other at 2 years old
@@e.e.schiemer3135 i just googled her. I am impressed by her CV/ Resume. 😍
Mam Vandana Shiva is real & only the real exist! She's a true leader with a Godly spirit!!!
Most of their views are agreeable but the important this is that who will. Implement these all changes to alevate the power.
She comes from the ancient land of Mother Goddess Shakti. She is considered even more powerful than Shiva.
The Indian LADY IS SPEAKING TRUTH.👏💖👏
This Earth I walk upon , does not belong to me , it. is me who belongs to this beautiful planet . I love Mother Earth.
I came to see this video just for studying english.As a korean, But it's magnificently surprising and that Different people who have different back ground and from even different countries gather in one place ,and debate in one language.
And specially on that Subject!!!
Yes 🙌 one language 😃 has become the 🌎 worlds communication link.we need to translate the 🏠🌎 worlds literature and religion texts in English to reach out to the world 🌎
Love Ms. Shiva here. kicking ass and taking names- from India to Africa!
I wish a representative from Singapore was in this debate.
How can we discuss alleviating poverty without discussing the causes - aka reasons for globalisation failures and successes! Vandana is on point! Corruption is also a 2 way deal as elaborated by John Perkins
am I the only one here that aim to improve english?
+zikrii me too! :)
No it's not about improving their english but about improving their accent
me too.
zikrii forget English they all sound good..
you are not alone
On the film presented before the debate:
Why was Spain singled out in colonization that resulted in poverty ... BBC was cunning in omitting Britain as the greatest colonizer of which almost 50% of the world it conquered and looted ... from South Asia to Africa, from the MiddleEast to everywhere!
They need to all be named and shamed
Looting is in their DNA
Jesus the moderator wouldn't stop talking and interrupting
Oh God, I love this Indian woman, she is just too knowledgeable in this debate.
Yes, I love her too, she pushed the British Prime Minister to say something that he probably didn't want to admit, that if the African people stopped selling their raw materials and owned the resources from raw material all the way to finished product they could negotiate full value of their goods and make all the profit selling on the world market instead of sending their raw materials off to be processed in Europe, If they cut off the colonial middleman they can make all the profit on the stock market.
She is Sudanese not Indian Zeinab Mohamed Khair Elbadawi -Her father was in BBC Arabic
Vandana Shiva is Indian former physicist, check wikipedia and other biographies, Zeinab is a different person.
Racca Soko indians r always like it...iam also an indian
I EVEN KNEW THAT, , SHE HAS INTERESTING PROGRAMS ON BBC2. SHE WILL KICK NIGERIANS ASS.
our indian woman toped
She is Sudanese not Indian Zeinab Mohamed Khair Elbadawi -Her father was in BBC Arabic
yesss
She is sudanese muslim and speaks truth
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The fortune and misfortune of the African continent is related to its resources. Managing the resources properly is the key to success.
Tony is making a very crucial point but because it touches the host country, it is being ignored. Poverty is a result of interactions of many sub-systems, thus to solve poverty one needs to be holistic, we have to understand the major system which was put in place during the clash between Moors and Europe.
They talk about Latin America and Asia but no Latin American was invited and no one from China? But they did invite Tony Blair! Corporate circus show imo.
I wish they would have had that latin person if not on the panel then as the moderator coz this one is shite.
Poverty has causes deeply rooted in evolving human interests. In today’s society, the interpretations for why poverty exists have become intertwined in history, politics and the economy. The big question being asked-are people suffering needlessly?-deserves an answer.
Shiva has lived and worked in India and has experience apart from being a scientist. Tony is a tory or even a neocon besides being a colonialist. He talks but should and must be ignored.
don't you think tony Blair has experience? He was prime minster of Britain for 12 years and is extremely well travelled
is because of the greed of the leaders
The best ornamented people wearing the expensive now talking about poverty; very interesting
+Jinine Laishramcha EXACTLY. These very people (heads of NGO's) are actually funded by the elite to continue speaking (or must I says MISREPRESENTING) the world's poor. Thanks for identifying a black sheep amongst us. Actually, it does not require too big of an IQ to identify people like that. Thanks again!
chapmasi, I thought the same thing.. when the valueable parts of the discussion was coming to the fore she just cuts in and really hinders the discussion rather than facilitates it. these are prominent leaders with experience and answers or vital questions to pose, I would have really like to have heard their ideas more fully explored
Well done Vardana, you speak for the people.
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Awesome debate regarding poverty..
Vandana ma'am thanks to join such debate from our country I.e. India
I was looking for a video that helps me with the issue of the centrality of poverty in global governance. This video is it. Many thanks. It's a great debate - thanks to BBC. All panelists were great but I do agree Vandana put her finger right on the issues that matter the most, I think. I also agree with Tony Blair and the Nigerian lady about the importance of good governance.
Curruption
Population
Lack of good governance
One of the main reason
I am from india
I am only 18 years old
Nitin Singh India lol
👍👍well said .🤸🤸our politicians.we people 😤😷😭😭
My country Cambodia's problems:
1Corruption
2Low education system
Both of them are the biggest points that distract us. 🙄
Whilst a lot of good debaters are included on this show.... I find the host quite irritating and incredibly subjective..... whenever a guest starts down a path of promoting something SHE personally doesn't like or approve of, she interrupts and brings in someone else.
The whole debate turned into YET ANOTHER promotion of superficial "equality" and Maxist Ideals...... just how the BBC likes it.
I noticed that too!
THOMAS SONKARA DID WELL FOR AFRICA..
SHE IS SHORT OF TIME YOU CLOWN..
chapmasi very good point!
U NEED WHITE MANAGMENT CONSULTANTS TO GUIDE ARICA I WILL BE KILLED FOR SAYING THAT.
Just seeing this.. eye opening
Dear host, if you know all the answers why bring all these guys then
Debates on poverty, unemployment, insecurity in the society, inequality, gender issues, educational issues etc. are so common in modern world, but the reality is that poverty, unemployment and other burning issues are getting increased on global scale, so talking is not enough, but we need a practical program to address these issues; it is unfortunate for humankind that people talk …talk…talk but no down-to-earth solutions.
Bimal Rathnagoda www.foxheadline.tk/2018/05/afghanistan-at-least-17-killed-in-khost.html?m=1
Still better than even don't talk
Bretton woods I have some stuff on my u tube on an economic playlist. Stable currencies for successful world economy.
We have to get to the root of the problem. The first has to do with the moral disposition of mankind. We need to stop talking politics and get back to what lies in the heart of man. Why does man feel he has the right to steal , kill and contribute to not only impoverishing his fellow man but also killing him? There are wars all over the world in the name of colonialism and imperialism. Man has the evil desire to control and invade his fellow man. Seizing his land and natural resources.
If you look at this dilemma in a clear light you will see that poverty is evil, man is evil and this is the real reason for poverty.
The next question is how does man reckon the evils that he himself perpetuates?
Tony Blair looks like a toy bomb
Thumbs up to you Vandana Shiva!!!
Excellent discussion. I fully agree that we need to deal with corruption issues in these developing countries. we need structures and systems that facilitates proper governance and obedieance to laws
Corruption is a big part of poverty, social and economic problems. Money and power definitely corrupt. So, is there a way out?
I wanna meet this Indian lady . I want her knowledge
Hii
amparah richards we all doo
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She is not Indian,she is Arabian from soudan
@@user-lf4bg3he1w She is a Hindu Indian. Her name is that of a Hindu god - SHIVA! And she is wearing a bindi and a saree for goodness' sake!
That weird period when TV was 16:9 but still standard definition.
Really excellent debate. Actually we are very much busy in theoretical portion of the Economic of Poverty. We are calculating the different critical methods to describe the kinds and the dimension of the poverty. Moreover we are always talking about different rubbish methods to eradicate the poverty like: agro-processing industry, industrialization, globalization which have a significant effect to boost up the poverty. We need to concentrate into the job security and livelihood that would follow the thematic principle of Sustainable Development, need to strengthening the poor people with the power of sustainable livelihood in the multi-dimension way. We need to understand the ground reality of the development concern and promote the effective methods to eradicate the different dimension of poverty.
Well...! debate on why poverty , but why
without participation of poor candidates(people) ?
Vandana shiva is a blessing ❤️
That lady is a nut.
Sharing, Justice and Peace for All.
A hunger creating mechanism. Well said!
very good ideas.India woman is very good.
She is Sudanese not Indian Zeinab Mohamed Khair Elbadawi -Her father was in BBC Arabic
She is an indian woman....Who told you she is a Sudanese? ...No sense, bud
Thank God, Someone from India dare to expose the situation we are in. Farmer suicide... And so on.
22:27 Why didn't she let him finish?? Aaaargh!!! I would have loved to hear his opinion on job strategy.
this is one of the best debates i have ever watched
Vandana is star. ⭐
What the practical Tony Blair said at the beginning of debate "easy access to technology and electricity to younger population" was what agreed by everyone at the end by pointing out a revolution in the telephone sector as an example. Respect!
Why is everyone not talking about this moderator👩⚖️ she z is really good
First of all I do appreciate zeinb badawi for her great presention of this debate a lot of thanks for all attendance .
and you have to no that leaders spent 500 billion dollar in military weapons
ITS LOTS MORE..
The lady just takes the Mic and starts controlling the debate.This lady keeps stopping the debate and interjecting her own opinion on to what the people are saying. She is stearing it any way she wishes.She needs to shut up. It's a joke. Vandana is an amazing woman who I would listen to all day she has true good intention for this planet.
Zanaib has no respect.
Kris Spicer CORRECT. I AGREE, SHE IS AN IDIOT
you are just blood of colonies
Sooo true!! Totally agree
Yes. She should shut up and let others finished their talk properly
Go girl hammer Tony BLLLLLL..... WOW my english from India thumbs up!
l liked the Indian knight , she hits British prime minister each time he try to hypocrate
Hi Afifi She is Sudanese not Indian Zeinab Mohamed Khair Elbadawi -Her father was in BBC Arabic
هي سودانية أبا عن جد
mahmoud afifi the problem is guys like Tony Blair,there is no reasoning with men like him,pure tricks....
www.foxheadline.tk/2018/05/afghanistan-at-least-17-killed-in-khost.html?m=1
that's Zeinab the host who's sudanese, Mohamed Adam;
but people is talking about Vandana Shiva, the Indian activist among the guests
lol r u serious
Fact that we aren't watching these debates on daily basis in today's world is one of many reasons we are being deprived of the information about reality and more and more glamorise content is pushed in our social media platforms. The reason we will stay poor coz we are just used to overlook the harsh reality.
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Thanks
in order slowdown poverty, we need to be less greed, more compassion with others,
and the lack of education.
AN EXCELLENT MEETING TO DISCUSS POVERTY.
One point not mentioned was this!
The total amount of wealth that is squirreled away to avoid taxation
If discovered and retrieved by the Nation's Government.
Would bring most of Humanity out of poverty.
How can you edit the subtitles for this? I really want to do it myself because it's a shame that such an interesting topic isn't getting its points across accurately, especially for people who aren't as proficient in english to understand the debators with a pretty strong accent.
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So basically the dutch company that creates listening tests for high schools has used this video to ask like 20 questions about it during my listening test a week ago. Lol
why Im here
Thanks for your much appreciated contribution Indian Woman.
My Economics prof put it best when he asked the class: "What are the causes of poverty?" He paused and then said what we were all thinking: "Besides not having enough money."
The Indian woman has said it all
pretty funny how the mediator steals the mic from Lenkabula as soon as she starts talking about the role Western companies have in corruption
world needs people like you vandana maam. hope i get to converse you once in life.
Powerfull debate, i had loved and learned so much.
whats the point in having a debate about poverty without even mentioning the institutions in control of the money supply? aint that where of course the real political power and source of the problem is located...? ...aint it strange how they manage to completely ignore the worlds financial systems very basic mechanisms in any political debate ... ?
Felix Koschar that’s BBC propaganda for the you
nigeria: how much do u tax oil companies? no answers
I think that they all have a point just different angles in and tackling the issue
that awesome debate. i don't look up the negative ways and some other past history . i just learned from the debate for reduction poverty .
Loved the Indian Lady! She's amazing indeed
After many reflections I have narrowed down the reasons of poverty into 2 points. The First one being greed to have more and the second one is the Envy of things that you do not possess.
Thanks for the add! I think there's quite a bit we can do to start, and you're right, but we should not expect them to! They have their agenda, we need to have ours'!
Does anyone know what exactly the motion of this debate is? Thanks in advance
why a war criminal is in this debate ??
The poverty is being inspiring by politicians around the globe
Tony Blair is a war criminal
Yes you are correct , he is a war criminal , he is also a millionaire talking about poverty !!!
i agree on tony blair.....with the existence of corroupt government...poverty will be just a dream full of obstacles to blame to too many people, org, company. its stupid that other people just dont want to say yes tony you are right...Instead they are in rush to point out their own thought..how sad?
Vandana Shiva comes from Hindu culture which gave Upanishads and Vedas which taught interconnectedness of our life and species. In monotheistic religions, humans are portrayed as masters of our Earth
very interesting debate i learnt a lot !
one thing why bring in all those people (audience) and only talk to a few ??
I believe that Tony Blair is the telling a good idea how to develop in Africa 🌍 I'm Gambia 🇬🇲 west Africa
honestly Blair you have a point there!! effective gvt hey
Very beautiful woman and has clear pronunciatin to understand and develop my speech. Thanks a lot!
For the matter of fact, Uganda’s backbone is agriculture but people are suffering in hunger and starvation. Children battling severe acute malnutrition and over 500000 people were starving in karamoja by 2022
I didn't even start to watch it but can say something:
WHY....JUST WHY are a bunch of people with 1000$ suits and silver chains talking about the misery and the unimaginable suffering of millions of people around the world?!?!
because they are the ones making decisions for the millions of people around the world, unfortunately. I heard them talking about democracy somewhere...?
They are rich but still think about the poverty and try to find some solutions, that’s good. The poor can not help themselves, they need support from others. They try to help them.
Unfortunately that expensive look portrays professionalism and world leaders need to portray professionalism and leadership. Showing up in a tee shirt would be inappropriate.
NetWoine The men are the problem of all these issues that's why the problem continues...
NetWoine no
Kaolo engels luisterexamen
Thanks for this debate, greetings from Germany 👀
What an eye opening debate?
Africa's problem is the same as Trinidad and Tobago. Petroleum, gas and petrochemical sectors are very capital intensive employing a few people. To boot, you still have to import foreign expatriates so the money largely goes to the Government.
Very interestng debate though!
Nigel Campbell
39:15 It’s a TRAPP
Unless Africa owns its economy there's no way in which poverty can be dealt with.
Nice video this may help us for learn English properly if I listen it carefully.
Foreign aid -
Taxing the poorest Westerners to fund the richest Africans. When you give money to a foreign Government their main asset becomes you and not their own people.
could you explain what you mean by that. i need to know for an assignment
I'm not sure where you live so I will just base it on the US.
The US provides foreign aid in the form of economic and military to the following nations:
Afghanistan
Israel
Egypt
Jordan
West Bank/Gaza
Ethiopia
South Sudan
Malawi
Uganda
South Africa
Nigeria
Russia
Iraq
Tanzania
Mexico
Congo (Kinshasa)
Haiti
Lebanon
Somalia
Zambia
Sudan
Following the corruption index many of these nations rate in the top 50 for corruption and poverty. Primarily the developing nations in Africa.
So long as financial aid is provided to these nations the leaders will not see their people as their primary source of income (assets). This has the effect of stunting entrepreneurship and genuine development in the economy and quality of life for all.
Is Taxation Theft, your original comment is wonderful and your clarification was even better.
I think Tony Blair did well on this debate. He is consistently fair with ideas and judgement presenting constructive picture in that spectrum. I admire the way he answer and deliver factual statements with respect towards his/her opponents.
he is a war criminal.
i agree with Tonny Blair when it comes to the question that tackles on Why do the economies of the African countries not changing? we need to look at governance and their policies that is to curb corruption, etc
for example in this 2020 our Zim gvt is very corrupt and we need to redefine our gvt structures and get rid of some policies that takes us back and kills & bury corruption then embrace better policies and gvt that cater and open access to every citizens for growth
perfectly put.
Lol Tony Blair is a conservative who joined the labour party
+BlueCheese747 Tony Blair and Bush are war criminals whose hands are tainted with blood of millions of Iraqi. They caused the arrival of ISIS, which pushed people to move as refugees. Brilliantly, USA hasnt signed for international court, as they clearly know they do crimes against humanity. With Donald Trump, world may go into a third world war!
I don't understand why he is in this debate.
I do not agree with the idea that land garbing is source of poverty. industrialization can't be established on air, land is important. in developed worlsd land is owned by few but still the people are rich. corruption and mismanagement is source of poverty in the world
Tadele Bento
Why you think there was colonialism?
Which were The colonising countries?
Which were the colonised countries?
I hope these questions gives you more indept understanding.
Actually, it was an incredible debate ever.
Thank u