*The John Deere doesn't have as good of visibility with the bigger square hood. You also can't work on a John Deere and parts are WAY more expensive. I'd go New Holland ANY day over John Deere, it's not even a question for me*
Big difference in price between the two tractors new, not really a fair comparison. The choice of tractors are down to personal preference in most situations, all brands do have their problems. In most situations dealer backup is more important that the tractor brand.
I'm gonna be bias and say even though it's expensive the fendt 700 series has to be one of the best all round tractors on the market, but out of those two I would plump for the New Holland over the deere
I would go for New Holland. In many ways they have done well having to keep Fords reputation going which was great. What they have done well in the past was not taking stuff away from Ford tractors but adding to it and making it better. New Holland I would pick despite having a John Deere 6115r on our farm!!!
We had a demo t6 180 and it was lovely that dynamic command gearbox got used to it. In two passes with the cultivator so I would prefer new Holland if I was buying a ne tractor
Great video keep up the good work. One of consideration before choosing a tractor is dealer support. If you have history with a dealer and good service it’s hard to move.
They way I would personally judge a tractor is how many of them are there around in 10-15 years, you don’t see many old new Holland/fiats but, you see the odd old john deer but what you see a lot of is old Masseys, from the TEF20 to the 390t they are everywhere
Great commit. Perhaps, just stick with the MF65. Great all-round visibility. Bit cold in the winter, and a bit warm in the summer. Should be easier to get parts, if it breaks down in the long term future. Just adjust the machinery to suit the tractor.
@@leschase1824 I’d like to think there will be Massey 10 series tractors still doing work on their 100 year anniversary, i help on a small farm and I don’t see how half the work could be done without the 35 and 135
NH any day, please consider the 6 cylinder models like the t6.175 or t7.210 also the Autocommand gearbox is really easy to operate very similar to MF's Dyna-VT
Tractors are machines they all work and generally work well, they need to be looked after. Having said that there not built like the old ones, and I wonder how many will be running in say 60yrs. time like the Old Fordson's and Massey's?
The Deere is just more of a proper tractor if you ask me. The new Holland’s have always been a bit fake but as another comment said fendt really is the best
fair points on some of your comments Olly but it isnt a fair comparison, get a green one and a blue one boosting at the same hp, both 4 or 6 cyl and both with same gear box option, then compare comfort/usability and price etc
Neither tractor. Go for MF Red. JD, if it breaks down, painted green, easier to loose parked under a hedge or in the woods. Out of these 2, I would go blue New Holland. Look better than the old Ford 10 series, which I feel killed off Ford tractors, with a steering column gear change. How easy will it be to get parts for either in say 30 or 40 years time, off a shelf?
I wouldn't compare the wo tacos as one is a semi power shift and the other is a vario also the John deere is 6 and the t6 is 4 I’d compare the 6155r to a t6180 auto command as they are more alike
Basildon is an assembly plant - they don’t build anything there apart from screwing components together. If you compare Mannheim to Basildon then the German factory is far superior. Comparing price is like comparing a Dacia to a VW, they’re different prices. The top of the NH dash is same as they had on that range 15 years ago. The styling isn’t a lot different to older NH models.
As a young guy i was and still a Ford fan ( Europe Blue ) what you said about the brands i really liked that !!! maybe Fendt is the best tractor 🤔 !! And New Holland brand is uprising but Deere is by far the best brand there is I truly believe that !! When Fiat bought several brands I don’t know what to think about that but I have admitted they didn’t bad at all. I still miss the European Ford Blue. I’m totally not in agriculture anymore just an admirer and Memories Remains.
Are you are saying new Holland will always be cheaper but when I priced a new Holland against a John Deere equivalent the John Deere was cheaper by £1567 but we just couldn’t come away from new Holland as you say it’s what you know
@@bwarey52 morning I prised it in may it was a new Holland T5 115 for a John Deere 5115R both were prised with loder brackets and cab and front suspension hope this helps
@@ianforsyth7573 oh, that's makes more sense. Much smaller margin on a sensible sized tractor like that, I would expect the gap to grow as you more up the ranges towards 200hp 👍
I think I would take the 6r. Bigger 6.8l engine, less stress on the motor, more torque and let's not forget that it is a proven platform across the models and years of the 6000 series tractors. I am a big fan of the frame design as opposed to the NH weight bearing engine block. It is also very good at pulling ground engaging implements with a little bit of ballast weight. Yours would be certainly better with the commandpro but even what you have is already really good and I agree with you on the quality of the cab and of the machine overall. Going to a 4cyl t6 in my opinion would be a downgrade especially with the smaller engine, in my opinion if anything, engines should be getting bigger. It's a shame that the computer on yours broke even though I think that the jd satellite guidance system is the best out there.
I work with John Deere and every 5 minutes there breaking down with stupid electronics and the most recent one to go is our 8430 which blew the turbo we had a 2018 6195R which we sold for a new Deutz Fahr 6215ttv and its brilliant
Personally I'd go new holland we have 5 tms and two 7840s and the tms are very good tractors and if u go for the basic cab on a brand new. New holland it has the same gearbox and same cab layout which proves why change so thing that isn't broken.
we have case and New Holland, they are the same tractor just different colours. but personally out of the two I would go for the new holland just out of the fact that parts are way cheaper than the Deere. But i know how you feel about the gearbox on the JD, im a case man but i loved the JD auto box on silage trailers. you may have been better pitching the Deere against a Puma 150 ? both 6 cylinder and both about the same size.
@@davidcummins1108 case 175 is the hp before boost, NH 175 is the boost hp. The 175 case may be the first of the larger wheelbase pumas but not sure without looking it up
@@gregmiller726 That’s good to know. Bit deceiving so with NH quoting boosted power rather than actual power before boost. Bit of a difference when someone is trying to compare models.
I do wonder if you would lose a bit of power with the other gearbox option on the NH. The powershift style I guess doesn't run a torque converter? I don't know how some of the JD gearboxs are implemented, I guess CVT would be low loss but I would be concerned about the longevity of those.
You can not compare a John Deere 6155r and a new Holland 155 because the John Deere is rated at 155hp to 205hp but the new Holland is at its limit at 155hp it can’t go anymore than that so if you want to compare a new Holland with a Deere you should get a new Holland T7 210 and that why the new Holland is a lot cheaper and it’s also a 4 cilinder so it uses a lot more fuel because it revs a lot more and a lot louder.
Would you be able to get a fendt olly , 516 716 if you can to compare with the 6r it would be a good comparison, we run a fendt since 2001, you might even like the fendt so much u might get one 😅
Of course the 6155R is more expensive it's 155hp with a 40hp boost making it 195hp and it has an IVT an expensive option from any manufacturer. A 6130R or 6145R with 50k autoquad plus would be a better tractor to compare prices on.
One thing you made a mistake on noting is the hydraulic remotes. The JD do have the release handle, but the new Holland’s have an internal relief. If you push the coupler into the spool, it will release the pressure and then you can pull the hose out with ease.
Hi Olly, Never buy a New Holland Tractor , on the Fram I work on we have aT7 190 our 1st one had problems with the ad blue from day one ,our new T7 190 the brakes are bad so is the gear box it keeps crashing , try a Valtra tractor .
I'm a Ford and new holland man but thats not really a fair comparison as the 6r is 6 cylinder and t6 is 4.
Yep and two different gear boxes and specs
The saying for NH is. If shes not blue she wont do
And that is the truth
*The John Deere doesn't have as good of visibility with the bigger square hood.
You also can't work on a John Deere and parts are WAY more expensive.
I'd go New Holland ANY day over John Deere, it's not even a question for me*
New Holland every time!
agree new holland is the number 1
Big difference in price between the two tractors new, not really a fair comparison. The choice of tractors are down to personal preference in most situations, all brands do have their problems. In most situations dealer backup is more important that the tractor brand.
I'm gonna be bias and say even though it's expensive the fendt 700 series has to be one of the best all round tractors on the market, but out of those two I would plump for the New Holland over the deere
same here
Fendt are for showing off not for work next best thing is a Deutz
I think you chould go for the Case 155 Cvx
I like Fendt and having Agco behind them helps them out.
Deutz all the way
I would go for New Holland. In many ways they have done well having to keep Fords reputation going which was great. What they have done well in the past was not taking stuff away from Ford tractors but adding to it and making it better. New Holland I would pick despite having a John Deere 6115r on our farm!!!
Well I would go for a Fendt 500 or a 700 series istead!
I think you should compare two 6 cylinder machines instead of having a 4 cylinder yoke up against a 6
I think a lot of it comes down to your dealer back up too, they all break whatever colour and if your dealer is rubbish that can be painful.
New Holland all the way the Factory is only a few miles away from my farm🤠
We had a demo t6 180 and it was lovely that dynamic command gearbox got used to it. In two passes with the cultivator so I would prefer new Holland if I was buying a ne tractor
Not to mention you are getting a better tractor all while paying 25% less because new Holland doesn’t up charge for green paint.
@@Dutch4609 😂😂
The new holland sayings would be
: fear no Deere
: if she’s not blue she won’t do
Nothing runs like a deere with a new holland up its rear
and if its red leave it in the shed
and if its black (black beuty) you have to much meoney
Great video keep up the good work. One of consideration before choosing a tractor is dealer support. If you have history with a dealer and good service it’s hard to move.
Definitely blue
Sorry JD are just over rated ... most people just follow the hype!
If you can go and try a Fendt tractor, i think those are the best 🔝
And the most expensive
They way I would personally judge a tractor is how many of them are there around in 10-15 years, you don’t see many old new Holland/fiats but, you see the odd old john deer but what you see a lot of is old Masseys, from the TEF20 to the 390t they are everywhere
Great commit. Perhaps, just stick with the MF65. Great all-round visibility. Bit cold in the winter, and a bit warm in the summer. Should be easier to get parts, if it breaks down in the long term future. Just adjust the machinery to suit the tractor.
@@leschase1824 I’d like to think there will be Massey 10 series tractors still doing work on their 100 year anniversary, i help on a small farm and I don’t see how half the work could be done without the 35 and 135
I would choose the 6R because a JD 6215R has been my favorite tractor for as long as I can remember. It’s also such an iconic tractor.
NH any day, please consider the 6 cylinder models like the t6.175 or t7.210 also the Autocommand gearbox is really easy to operate very similar to MF's Dyna-VT
Tractors are machines they all work and generally work well, they need to be looked after. Having said that there not built like the old ones, and I wonder how many will be running in say 60yrs. time like the Old Fordson's and Massey's?
The Deere is just more of a proper tractor if you ask me. The new Holland’s have always been a bit fake but as another comment said fendt really is the best
The New Holland’s are fake in what aspect compared to deere?
New Holland
I like the John Deere but I'd buy the New Holland. It's really a matter of economics.
I don’t discriminate between tractors I like them all 😂👍
whe drive already ford new holland.for 80 years and they are the best
in the process of buying a massey 7718 S, worth a try if ur looking for new tractors they fixed a lot of the things u didnt like on the original model
Is it any chance that we might see a valtra n or t on the farm? or atlest trying it?
Quite agree I have a metallic red valtra, metallic green valtra and an all black valtra
@@kevinroberts2014 They are lovely tractors
I have a Kubota M7133 and I really like it vs John Deere!
New Holland all the way best tractor
fair points on some of your comments Olly but it isnt a fair comparison, get a green one and a blue one boosting at the same hp, both 4 or 6 cyl and both with same gear box option, then compare comfort/usability and price etc
Try a Valtra n154d they are a much underrated tractor
Neither tractor. Go for MF Red. JD, if it breaks down, painted green, easier to loose parked under a hedge or in the woods. Out of these 2, I would go blue New Holland. Look better than the old Ford 10 series, which I feel killed off Ford tractors, with a steering column gear change. How easy will it be to get parts for either in say 30 or 40 years time, off a shelf?
pretty easy ill guess, i can get parts for 70 year old tractors
If it ain’t blue, it wont do! T6 all the way
Nev holland 😏
I wouldn't compare the wo tacos as one is a semi power shift and the other is a vario also the John deere is 6 and the t6 is 4 I’d compare the 6155r to a t6180 auto command as they are more alike
Dealer back up would be something to consider,
Basildon is an assembly plant - they don’t build anything there apart from screwing components together. If you compare Mannheim to Basildon then the German factory is far superior. Comparing price is like comparing a Dacia to a VW, they’re different prices. The top of the NH dash is same as they had on that range 15 years ago. The styling isn’t a lot different to older NH models.
New Holland's slogan is Let's get it done.
Nothing is runs like a Deere!
As a young guy i was and still a Ford fan ( Europe Blue ) what you said about the brands i really liked that !!! maybe Fendt is the best tractor 🤔 !! And New Holland brand is uprising but Deere is by far the best brand there is I truly believe that !! When Fiat bought several brands I don’t know what to think about that but I have admitted they didn’t bad at all. I still miss the European Ford Blue. I’m totally not in agriculture anymore just an admirer and Memories Remains.
John deere have just redone the looks of John deere to look more modern, although haven’t been released yet
John deere
John Deere
Are you are saying new Holland will always be cheaper but when I priced a new Holland against a John Deere equivalent the John Deere was cheaper by £1567 but we just couldn’t come away from new Holland as you say it’s what you know
Morning 👍 how long ago did you price them as I would expect the Deere to be 10k plus for like for like spec......
@@bwarey52 morning I prised it in may it was a new Holland T5 115 for a John Deere 5115R both were prised with loder brackets and cab and front suspension hope this helps
@@ianforsyth7573 oh, that's makes more sense. Much smaller margin on a sensible sized tractor like that, I would expect the gap to grow as you more up the ranges towards 200hp 👍
John Deere all the way. The back up and dealer support is far superior in the north midlands.
Apparently New Holland are coming out with pneumatic cab suspension in the near future, that would be the one I would like to try out.
Nothing runs like a Deere with a new holland up it’s rear
John Deere all day everyday
I love John Deere so I would choose that
I think I would take the 6r. Bigger 6.8l engine, less stress on the motor, more torque and let's not forget that it is a proven platform across the models and years of the 6000 series tractors. I am a big fan of the frame design as opposed to the NH weight bearing engine block. It is also very good at pulling ground engaging implements with a little bit of ballast weight. Yours would be certainly better with the commandpro but even what you have is already really good and I agree with you on the quality of the cab and of the machine overall. Going to a 4cyl t6 in my opinion would be a downgrade especially with the smaller engine, in my opinion if anything, engines should be getting bigger.
It's a shame that the computer on yours broke even though I think that the jd satellite guidance system is the best out there.
I work with John Deere and every 5 minutes there breaking down with stupid electronics and the most recent one to go is our 8430 which blew the turbo we had a 2018 6195R which we sold for a new Deutz Fahr 6215ttv and its brilliant
Holland🤙✋
Personally I'd go new holland we have 5 tms and two 7840s and the tms are very good tractors and if u go for the basic cab on a brand new. New holland it has the same gearbox and same cab layout which proves why change so thing that isn't broken.
I think the new holland slogan is let's get it done.
If it ain't blue it just won't do
I would go for the 6R
I would go for the new Holland every day of the week
we have case and New Holland, they are the same tractor just different colours. but personally out of the two I would go for the new holland just out of the fact that parts are way cheaper than the Deere. But i know how you feel about the gearbox on the JD, im a case man but i loved the JD auto box on silage trailers.
you may have been better pitching the Deere against a Puma 150 ? both 6 cylinder and both about the same size.
Out of interest what is the difference mechanically between say a case puma cvx 175 and a T7 175 Autocommand?
@@davidcummins1108 case 175 is the hp before boost, NH 175 is the boost hp. The 175 case may be the first of the larger wheelbase pumas but not sure without looking it up
@@gregmiller726 That’s good to know. Bit deceiving so with NH quoting boosted power rather than actual power before boost. Bit of a difference when someone is trying to compare models.
@@davidcummins1108 as far as I know a puma 165 is basically a t7.210 nh
@@gregmiller726 are they both running the same engines? I know the T6’s run the FPT engine so I presume they are common to both?
My heart says deere but the blue machine is a great bit of kit
Nothing runs like a deere!... I remember when it was reliability is our strength. Things have definitely changed
Great review.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
A slogan for New Holland. What's broken now 😆😂
if its blue itle do
New holland if she isant blue keeep her in the shed
Nothing runs like a dear with a new holland up the reare
New Holland/Case IH no question!
Deere any day
I do wonder if you would lose a bit of power with the other gearbox option on the NH. The powershift style I guess doesn't run a torque converter? I don't know how some of the JD gearboxs are implemented, I guess CVT would be low loss but I would be concerned about the longevity of those.
JD
Great video olly
i would choose new holland because they realy worth more than buying a john deere. New holland are also much more beautiful and bigger name
John Deere keep there value
Its like comparing a John deere 7 or 8r to a 135
New Holland all the way. I’m a blue man myself I do like John deer but it’s not that good compared to a t7 or even a t6!
I think you should look at a Newholand t6 180 with a 6cyl engine, or yust stick with the Deere
JD takes the biscuit for me ! Charlie 🇨🇦
You need to try get a muck speeder for the new Holland some time and that’s the real test
If she's not blue she will not do lol
John Deere all the way!
You can not compare a John Deere 6155r and a new Holland 155 because the John Deere is rated at 155hp to 205hp but the new Holland is at its limit at 155hp it can’t go anymore than that so if you want to compare a new Holland with a Deere you should get a new Holland T7 210 and that why the new Holland is a lot cheaper and it’s also a 4 cilinder so it uses a lot more fuel because it revs a lot more and a lot louder.
Yellow and blue will get you through
@olliefarms have you ever looked at the 6m series for john deere brilliant simple tractor
Love them both but , "DEERE"!
Comparing apple’s to pears and saying the one you have is nicer…
You should get a case
I do prefer the John Deere but I also like the New Holland.
Which is best
Would you be able to get a fendt olly , 516 716 if you can to compare with the 6r it would be a good comparison, we run a fendt since 2001, you might even like the fendt so much u might get one 😅
JOHN DEERE
If it's not blue it just won't do.
John deere🤩
Of course the 6155R is more expensive it's 155hp with a 40hp boost making it 195hp and it has an IVT an expensive option from any manufacturer. A 6130R or 6145R with 50k autoquad plus would be a better tractor to compare prices on.
new holland
Notin runs like a Deere when a new holland is up it's rear
U shud get a good condition 2nd hand 30 series as a secondary tractar as they are reliable and will depreciate little to none
Love that
I think the t6 looks better than the JD.
John deere 🔥💪🏻👑
John Deere all day
One thing you made a mistake on noting is the hydraulic remotes. The JD do have the release handle, but the new Holland’s have an internal relief. If you push the coupler into the spool, it will release the pressure and then you can pull the hose out with ease.
Hi Olly, Never buy a New Holland Tractor , on the Fram I work on we have aT7 190 our 1st one had problems with the ad blue from day one ,our new T7 190 the brakes are bad so is the gear box it keeps crashing , try a Valtra tractor .
What about parts for each Olly you need a front off side front uv joint prices for each and time scale to getting it to you