Meet Pixelmator Pro - Apple's New Photoshop Competitor

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  • @kizanko
    @kizanko 21 годину тому +106

    Ugh Google/Android keeps disappointing me how they don't put any effort for their creative audience. Only Samsung is doing it's best to make sure Android users get good apps. Partnering with Wacom/ Clip Studio Paint, Lumafusion, Goodnotes, creating a quite good notes app, dex makes it like a laptop. These are things GOOGLE should have done. Their pixel tablet has bad pen integration, they don't motivate developers to create tablet apps. They also don't even make proper editing apps. Now they cancel the Pixel tab 2. I just want them to put the love and care that Apple does. And also create in house creative apps to draw or edit pictures and videos. Glad Apple is putting in the effort ❤

    • @alexgranados8719
      @alexgranados8719 20 годин тому +7

      Android needs a good vector app like illustrator/affinity designer or why not invest in Inkscape so they can bring the app to the Android ecosystem. Also a good Photoshop competitor because iPadOS has affinity photo and Photoshop. On the other hand, I hope Apple decides to bring Pixelmator Pro to the iPad because there is a big difference between the mobile version and the pro version.

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 19 годин тому +5

      "Ugh Google/Android keeps disappointing me how they don't put any effort for their creative audience."
      Yeah, I got a Samsung S8 two years ago and I wish I had bought an iPad instead. In fact, I've given up and although I use Nomad Sculpt daily - it's just one of many really good Apps available on iOS. I'll be treating myself to an iPad in the next few months and my daughter will get the S8 so she can play Genshin Impact.

    • @LuisKu-t9d
      @LuisKu-t9d 19 годин тому +9

      I just recently did a reverse. Had an iPad pro m4 for about two weeks before I returned it because it wasn't optimized for procreate and other apps that used the pencil for drawing when it first released which I thought was crazy for a device I paid over 2 thousand dollars for. So I kept my iPad mini 6 for sketching and nomad and it worked well enough and I was really excited when the iPad mini 7 came out...but then I was told I needed to buy a different apple pencil for it even though the newer version was 99 percent identical. Don't know why a newer processor and more ram warrants a different $150 pencil.
      So instead I took my iPad mini to best buy to trade it in for a galaxy tab s10 plus. After the trade in value, a coupon Samsung had going for trading in an iPad, and the black Friday deal I got the tab s10 for $600. I love the Wacom technology a lot more than the iPad for drawing. I like the s pen better and the screen is matte without needing a screen protector which dulls the screen or having to fork out 2 thousand for that amazing nano texture display on the iPad. The matte display on the tab s10 is awesome, the pen feels grippy, and the pen comes included.
      The tab s doesn't have procreate but I like clip studio better at this point and infinite painter is awesome too. Sculpting on nomad on the tab s10 is smooth and awesome as well. Only thing I'll be missing is quad re-mesher which is coming only to nomad on ios and I must admit, I do miss texture painting on procreate which I can't do on the tab s either.
      I do love iPad, but I just couldn't deal with apples greed. I was already ingrained in their creative ecosystem and they still treated me like someone they wanted to milk money out of unnecessarily. For $600 on black friday deals I could've gotten a 13 inch iPad air but that doesn't have oled screen, it doesn't have a matte coating on the screen, it doesn't come with the pencil, it's, 60 hz, and overall a lesser device in my eyes.
      Also, the file system on android is much better. It doesn't drive me insane like the one on ios (which is serviceable but still drives me insane). And I can get into all the discord servers I want without apple denying me due to them being what they deem NSFW.
      At the end of the day, I still love iPad, and I may return to them some day. Maybe if apple ever makes a mini pro with an oled pro motion display. But the tab s has been breathe of fresh air. So much so that I also upgraded my phone from the iPhone 11 pro to the s24 ultra which I now use to sketch and sculpt on the go with the s pen that the phone comes with. The pressure sensitivity is amazing and it has next to zero line wobble. Having infinite painter ter and Nomad Sculpt in my pocket to use at work is a lot of fun. Anyways, cheers and enjoy your iPad when you get it.

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 19 годин тому

      @@LuisKu-t9d If you paid for Clip Studio on your Samsung - you should get the free version on your phone and it works like a free shortcut device, driving the display on the TAB.
      Sadly, I didn't like Clip Studio either on my desktop machines or my Samsung.

    • @alexgranados8719
      @alexgranados8719 18 годин тому

      @@LuisKu-t9d I agree with you. I bought a TCL 14.3 inch tablet for 400 usd approx. It has a matte screen and it comes with an active pen similar to the quality of the apple pencil 2. Guess what? Ugee (a famous drawing tablet manufacturer) is also launching a clone of this tablet. And on the iPad ecosystem you get these 13 inch overpriced tablets. That's the biggest they got.

  • @GordonRunklePhoto
    @GordonRunklePhoto 14 годин тому +10

    Remember when Apple had a professional photo tool (Aperture)? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

    • @NunyuzBiznuss
      @NunyuzBiznuss 10 годин тому +2

      Indeed, Lightroom was Adobe’s *answer* to Aperture. Moreover, Aperture debuted nondestructive editing. Jobs had to explain what it was on stage

    • @timz9862
      @timz9862 9 годин тому +1

      @@NunyuzBiznussAperture didn’t debut nondestructive editing. That honor goes to Live Picture produced way back in the 90s. I used it. It was awesome. It was also expensive and so not used by very many companies/people.

  • @PhilChandlerArts
    @PhilChandlerArts 21 годину тому +15

    I’ve been using Pixelmator for over 15 years (long before the Pro version came along) and I used to use the original version for art quite a lot. It had a greater variety of brushes, and all of those could be imported into the new version. In fact I’ve even added photoshop brushes in, so I managed to get more “inky” style pens more suited for cartooning.
    Also, the interface layout is customizable. Having the layers and tools on the opposite sides drove me crazy, but I did learn that I could change that all around to how I wanted it.
    While it’s not really geared for artists, I have done a lot of art in it. I’m hoping in time they do make it a little more artist-friendly with a few updates.
    But do steer clear of the iPad version. It really is awful!

    • @NunyuzBiznuss
      @NunyuzBiznuss 10 годин тому

      I found the lines created in the old
      Pixelmater and it’s successor Pro were jittery. Were you able to get good results?

  • @btdxpm
    @btdxpm 22 години тому +22

    My only problem is when Apple acquires software like Logic Pro, they don’t do much with it. Logic Pro has hardly changed at all since it was acquired, while competitors like Ableton continued to innovate.

  • @Studiodorg
    @Studiodorg 22 години тому +5

    Pixelmator does have sales. I think I got PXM Pro several years ago for something between $15 - $30, and you generally get years & years of free updates. I loved what's now called Pixelmator Classic. It was much better for drawing than Pro. I was able to convert Ps brushes & had a ton of my own personalized brushes in it, as well as shapes, gradients, palette. It felt faster than Pro. Unfortunately, none of my Classic tools can be dropped into Pro. It really seems to be geared for photos & layouts primarily. All your points about the inflexibility of the brushes -- totally agree. Messed with it last week & it was so disappointingly frustrating. There also used to be a vibrant community of users with Classic. That's no longer true with Pro.
    But, they can only improve from here...

  • @LabelsAreMeaningless
    @LabelsAreMeaningless 21 годину тому +43

    Apple wants to own everything in it's ecosystem. This isn't a case of increasing competition, which is good, it's a way to further push competition out of the ecosystem.

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 19 годин тому

      How did you work that one out? Microsoft bought and crashed Avid / SoftImage XSI / Skype / but among other purchases they also bought Blizzard Entertainment / Hotmail / Forethought (that became Powerpoint) etc etc etc
      Need I go on?

    • @nitrobear
      @nitrobear 14 годин тому +4

      not quite. They already had a photo editing suite decades ago.

    • @Artofcarissa
      @Artofcarissa 13 годин тому

      Yeah, there’s no way they’d release pixelmator for PC. Most of their software save for QuickTime and iTunes are Mac only

    • @benji_tunez
      @benji_tunez 12 годин тому +1

      Pixelmator was always a Mac exclusive. it was only just bought recently; essentially they finalized the marriage.

    • @Cukito4
      @Cukito4 11 годин тому +1

      Not an "ecosystem".

  • @PaulKaseta
    @PaulKaseta 22 години тому +6

    This is a very interesting acquisition for apple. If they want to get into the creative suite war (not sure if thats what they are trying to do here) I feel maybe they dropped the ball by not purchasing the Affinity suite. The apps were already on Ipad and in a full scale nearly identical to the desktop app way, and the products were more streamlined to compete with Adobe. Adobe has so many different things in their suite that its hard to directly compete, but Apple has its own creative things already with powerhouse apps like Procreate and Procreate Dreams (though only on Ipad) that an Affinity purchase would have brought them that much closer. Again im not sure they are looking to compete with adobe directly put the potential to do so was (and really still is) there, they just have a lot more work to do if that is indeed their goal.

  • @NunyuzBiznuss
    @NunyuzBiznuss 10 годин тому +1

    This UA-camr is right the painting side of Photoshop is something that they have not gotten right. It would be nice if Apple licensed the Procreate drawing engine for this.

  • @orangeofmars2835
    @orangeofmars2835 21 годину тому +3

    Looks like Apple has big things planned with Pixelmator for their Universe. I expect to see major Apple related changes in the future.

  • @franciscodetonne4797
    @franciscodetonne4797 22 години тому +7

    I didn't look carefully, just glanced at the thumbnail and I thought there is a new tablet out 😂

    • @killermachine9989
      @killermachine9989 22 години тому

      what table does he use in this video?

    • @franciscodetonne4797
      @franciscodetonne4797 21 годину тому

      @@killermachine9989 Xp-pen newest tablet in 14 or 16 inch size. Artist Pro 14/16 Gen 2. His review is very favorable.

    • @franciscodetonne4797
      @franciscodetonne4797 12 годин тому

      @@killermachine9989 Doesn't look like a 16 inch screen so I say XP-Pen Artist Pro 14 Gen 2 (IIRC).

  • @GyanPrakash
    @GyanPrakash 22 години тому +15

    I’m done with Adobe so I switched to Affinity but looks like Apple has all of them integrated in the Ecosystem, minus Publisher, Indesign 🧐

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 19 годин тому

      Apple could do worse than buy Swift Pages to rival Publisher.
      Anyhow, if Apple really want to rival Adobe then they need to make documents, filters and layers work seamlessly across software. Big studios stay with Adobe because you can open a doc with 30 layers and filters / adjustments in one App and then open in another and those filters and adjustments are faithfully reproduced.
      Microsoft is doing this for the corporate world with 365 - some of the apps are truly awful (SWAY / CLIPCHAMP / Photos Video Editor to take some examples) but the bean-counters in finance like that you pay one price and get a bunch of software that integrates.
      Adobe has been doing this since Creative Cloud but Apple hasn't.
      And of the 3 companies - Apple is the only one not charging a subscription (yet)

    • @cloggedaorta
      @cloggedaorta 19 годин тому

      Pages has a surprisingly robust text block mode that is quite powerful. Just convert a document to Page Layout and the sky is the limit. Unless I’m editing client files, I don’t do my own projects on InDesign anymore.

  • @MacBamboocha
    @MacBamboocha 20 годин тому +9

    On one side I'm REALLY glad Adobe is starting to get some serious competition. It was about time! Professionally however I kinda hope this software tool box stays irrelevant, because in my field working with other studios that use Apple products is a compatibility nightmare to say the least. Adobe stuff just works no matter what. Everything iOS based only works well inside the Apple eco-system.

    • @MagieLamp
      @MagieLamp 8 годин тому +1

      exactly. also how terrible would it be to see “Pixelmator” on a job posting requirement … sadly ive been in adobe for over a decade now so its not gonna be easy to switch

  • @Zero
    @Zero 8 годин тому +1

    I have the pixelmator photo for my iPad is this different from that ? And is the iPad version the same as desktop ?

  • @RyanRuark
    @RyanRuark 18 годин тому +2

    Pour one out for Aperture.

  • @michaelt9174
    @michaelt9174 13 годин тому

    Hi Brad,
    Another great video…very informative and answers a lot of questions. What model and size is your XP Pen Display?
    Cheers

  • @DaveBarrack
    @DaveBarrack 22 години тому +1

    Whatever creative suite of software Apple is trying to build up will never be actual competition for Adobe as long as Apple's software is locked to Apple's software ecosystem. If you use only Apple products, then this is probably a reasonable thing to migrate to, but don't expect Clip Studio Paint or XNView or any client if you're doing this professionally to be able to open or view Pixelmator native files for at least a decade. I guess my point is that this move will hardly have Adobe quaking in their boots.

  • @antoniocarvalho1406
    @antoniocarvalho1406 31 хвилина тому

    Actually Apple use to have a pro photo editing application/program called Aperture, sadly discontinued in 2015. So, no, they have some experience in the area. Also curious to know how Apple will further push Pixelmator.

  • @xRamada
    @xRamada 19 годин тому

    YES Brad is finally covering this. I'm so fucking excited for this

  • @spleenal
    @spleenal 14 годин тому +2

    I'm a professional comic artist and writer. I've used Pixelmator the Pixelmator Pro for 12 years. For colouring the comics. I do the line art in Sketchbook pro. Sketchbook is perfect for lines. Pixelmator is great for everything else. :)

  • @NightPhoenixPress
    @NightPhoenixPress 2 години тому

    I use Pixelmator Pro everyday for comics and thumbnails. There’s a lot of stuff for drawing in the app.

  • @havocarius
    @havocarius 7 годин тому

    People endlessly dunk on Apple but you gotta admit -- the system works. It's convenient, it's inclusive towards creatives, it's innovative even when it's delayed, and so many other small stuff around the ecosystem that just make your experience as an user much easier.

  • @mjhonsun
    @mjhonsun 12 годин тому

    Good. Adobe needs more competition.

  • @yumei5058
    @yumei5058 16 годин тому

    Definitely like one time purchase over subscription models

  • @alocasio5896
    @alocasio5896 20 годин тому +2

    Has Canva said anything about bringing Affinity to Android? I love Samsung and would rather not have to buy an iPad/Macbook

  • @DragunnitumGaming
    @DragunnitumGaming 18 годин тому

    a Rare Apple W! ✅

  • @danisoaresduarte
    @danisoaresduarte 12 годин тому

    "Calligraphic" is a word❤

  • @festusmcidiotface
    @festusmcidiotface 19 годин тому

    Remember, the creators of pixelmator pro are not suicidal!

  • @TheodenBlade
    @TheodenBlade 3 години тому

    Every little thing Apple has done and contribute to their audience is having me one step close to make that big decision. Sure, they maybe years behind when it comes to releasing creative ideas, but their technology is by far the best when using their ecosystem and their M3 chips.

  • @Duskydog419
    @Duskydog419 57 хвилин тому

    I mainly use it for retouching photos with small composites. But now i use affinity more. I still use the pixlemator phone app because of the simplicity *and because affinity doent have a phone app.

  • @Conv1cti0n
    @Conv1cti0n 9 годин тому

    i am just wondering why they are'nt any competitors for photoshop or illustrator. Is it that hard to create that kinda software?

  • @neatnateable
    @neatnateable 19 годин тому

    This is not surprising as Apple has promoted the heck out of Pixelmator since it came out.

  • @Mr_RichardH
    @Mr_RichardH 20 годин тому

    I loved Aperture. It was LightRoom before LightRoom. Maybe Apple will bring that back to really prod Adobe?

  • @GyanPrakash
    @GyanPrakash 22 години тому

    This is kinda Game Changing 😊

  • @musictheory4u153
    @musictheory4u153 15 годин тому

    The Affinity suite was probably a better choice?
    Though, Pixelmator Pro has a feature to export graphics into Apple Motion...

  •  12 годин тому +3

    Photoshop is one of those creative apps that has no real competition. There are competitors but they aren't quite there. If Apple can juice up Pixelmator or Canva with Affinity Photo to create a real competitor that will make Adobe sweat, I'm all for it.

    • @timz9862
      @timz9862 9 годин тому +1

      PS has plenty of competition, just split up into different apps. For photo editing it can still be called the best. For painting, definitely not. Procreate, ClipStudio, Infinite Painter and Corel Painter are far superior. Actually, there are even ore apps than that which are better at painting than PS. There are a lot better apps for making images for websites… Sketch, Affinity Designer, FireWorks (still to this day even though Adobe canceled it). Also, none of the apps I mentioned are anywhere NEAR as buggy as PS. I have to use it at my job every day and I’d say it crashes about every other day just from moving an artboard or something dumb like that.

  • @AnaLatese
    @AnaLatese 3 години тому

    If only they had this for the iPad. I rarely like to use my iMac

  • @PicturesWeCanHear
    @PicturesWeCanHear 2 години тому

    Hey brad... Can you please if you have time, review the Android version of Callipeg. Its in beta but it will be nice to know what you think about it before it launches next year. Thanks man. And always love ❤ your videos..

  • @midnightfuture
    @midnightfuture 15 годин тому

    Cute dog.
    As a rule I wouldn't encourage anyone to ever make their core workflow/productivity dependent on Apple application software. All applications are value-add *hobbies*, at best, to Apple; the product roadmaps are fuzzy, the update cycles are sporadic, the data is stored in proprietary formats, and the products are abruptly EOL'd without notice.
    Some people love Pixelmator, Photomator, and Pixelmator Pro. Good for them. If you don't already love those products, I would say to ignore this piece of news and stay focused on companies whose bread and butter is serving your needs. Use Apple for hardware, and pure play application vendors for software.

  • @kelvin1.0
    @kelvin1.0 22 години тому +2

    Do you think I should get the xp pen deco mini 7 or huion hs64

  • @CallMeChato
    @CallMeChato 9 годин тому

    How the hell is $50 one time purchase not cheap? If that’s expensive then you’d better get a job. If you’re referring to relative competition that’s still cheap. Caveat emptor.

  • @davexmit
    @davexmit Годину тому

    Photomater is excellent for iPhone ‘serious’ photography. And I think that’s what Apple actually wanted. Not the Pixelmater app.

  • @chrisaitan
    @chrisaitan 22 години тому

    i wish they made one for windows too ngl

  • @musiccreation1198
    @musiccreation1198 14 годин тому

    For $50, it's a steal.

  • @fachasaurus
    @fachasaurus 22 години тому +4

    Always excited for competition in this space - always leads to innovation and pushes each developer to bring new features to the table.
    (Also, there is an error in the description, first sentence should say Apple acquired it, not Adobe! Just wanted to give you a heads up!)

  • @am3sdigital
    @am3sdigital 20 годин тому

    Apple is kinda weird when it comes to there software. I only just found out that Apple has an after effects clone called Apple Motion. I haven’t had a chance to play with it too much yet, but from what I’ve read it’s been kinda delegated to be a Final Cut title generator these days.
    That being said, Apple and Blackmagic design seem to have very similar software strategies, where hardware sales subsidize the software sales, and allow these massive creative apps like Davinci resolve, Logic Pro, for a one time purchase, and even Apple has free but feature limited versions of their apps in iMovie and garage band.
    I think it’s great that we’re seeing more competition in the creative industries. Between subscriptions, and now Adobe seemingly hellbent on replacing their own customer base with AI, I’m curious to see how long Adobe’s chokehold will last.

    • @timz9862
      @timz9862 9 годин тому

      Apple Motion is actually pretty nice. And what’s better is that Pixelmator has the ability to export files as Motion projects that can be imported directly. WAAAY easier than trying to get an Illustrator file into After Effects.

  • @marklsimonson
    @marklsimonson 20 годин тому

    The UI seems to be influenced by Apple's Pages, Numbers, and Keynote more than Photoshop.

    • @NunyuzBiznuss
      @NunyuzBiznuss 10 годин тому +1

      Pixelmator 1 was very Photoshoppy in it’s UI, and indeed this is more iWork-y

  • @goobfilmcast4239
    @goobfilmcast4239 11 годин тому

    Look for Apple to market the Mac with much more vigor in 2025 and beyond. The Smartphone and Tablet market have less room for growth, while at only at only 10-12 % worldwide, Mac OS has potential for more expansion in the PC space. Pro-sumer apps ( like Pixelmator) along with popular AAA gaming titles will be part of that growth strategy. If Apple can take Pixelmator and give it 90% of the functionality of PhotoShop, offer it for under 100 bucks ( with no subscription) then allow third party developers to add plugins for the balance…many current PS users may find it more appealing.

  • @bertfarry3793
    @bertfarry3793 12 годин тому

    They tried once with arpiture

  • @timz9862
    @timz9862 9 годин тому

    $50 isn’t a cheap app? Yes… it is. Plus it’s a one time purchase, unlike any Adobe app. Are people forgetting about apps costing hundreds of dollars back in the day?

  • @tucoerquilenne6765
    @tucoerquilenne6765 14 годин тому

    I'll stick with Procreate for art. It'll be interesting to see what Apple does with this over the next two to three years. Apple does have the people and the money to give Adobe serious competition if they want to.

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 11 годин тому

      Apple could buy Adobe with the change they find in the couch cushions in the Apple HQ employee lounge

    • @tucoerquilenne6765
      @tucoerquilenne6765 9 годин тому

      @@goobfilmcast4239 True. I am sure that Apple had their reasons for not wanting to go down the road of trying to acquire Adobe.

  • @thewebstylist
    @thewebstylist 14 годин тому

    A shame they don’t focus on IPad platform use I mean come on w the iPencil it’s ideal for creatives n artists

  • @The00kelly00
    @The00kelly00 18 годин тому

    If apple took a cue from artists and ditched ai, I'd ditch pc. Procreate alone could be a photoshop killer.

  • @stickgarrote8582
    @stickgarrote8582 Годину тому

    Pixelmator has never been an actual pro contender. It's a cheap alternative for home users who have basic needs and it's great value for money with no subscription, so you can use it occasionally and it will still be a good deal. It would need a massive leap to compete in the major leagues. Adobe desperately needs to be challenged and if Apple turns on the money tap, this could turn into a contender in a few years, but it's a steep uphill battle.

  • @benjamina6915
    @benjamina6915 12 годин тому

    Apple or Adobe, I don't want either... both are overpricing everything, I'll stick to Affinity. Time to bring that to Android Canva!

  • @fix0the0spade
    @fix0the0spade 18 годин тому

    If Apple wants to compete with Adobe, they need to start handing out free 'education' licenses to schools and colleges, by the billions. If eth don't, they'll be athing round the edge like ClipStudio, Affinity etc because everyone coming out of college learns Adobe.

  • @Mystic_Dragon_Art
    @Mystic_Dragon_Art 9 годин тому

    I actually disagree with the title and main commentary of this video. Apple isn't trying to compete with Adobe at all. And this isn't a Photoshop competitor. Apple bought a Canva clone for the same reason Microsoft developed Microsoft Designer and they recently updated Microsoft Paint. To push generative AI. That's all this is. There is literally nothing more to this. Apple isn't getting into the creative suite game any more than Microsoft is.
    Besides, Adobe Express isn't the market leader in this niche, Canva is. So, the title should read "Apple's new Canva competitor." In order to be an Adobe competitor, you'd need a bare minimum of an actual photo editing program, a vector/design program, and a publishing program. Apple isn't doing any of that. Canva w/ Affinity is the only company even trying at the moment.

  • @ToddDolce
    @ToddDolce 17 годин тому

    Looked somewhat promising but since it's APPLE,..no thank you. They can KEEP IT.

  • @mattbrown8139
    @mattbrown8139 22 години тому

    Love your content but, an ad 1:18 into the video? I’m not a content creator so I don’t know if it’s possible, but is there not a way to do something about that? I know, first world problems but still. Again though, love your content and appreciate all you do for the creative community.

    • @SanOcelotl
      @SanOcelotl 17 годин тому

      Use an ad blocker bro

    • @rayok_zed
      @rayok_zed 2 години тому

      Bro it's literally not his fault. Don't you know the difference between a youtube ad and an ad made by the creator that is an integral part of the video they're making?

  • @BenjaminAlternate
    @BenjaminAlternate 16 годин тому

    *sigh* another great small software developer taken, and apple gets the credit for the software.... i hope the dev got paid off at least

  • @Puppetsinmyhead
    @Puppetsinmyhead 20 годин тому

    Pixelmator for Mac is the best. For the iPad it’s sadly trash for no reason🤦‍♂️. It’s less an iPad version and more a scaled up iPhone version.

    • @NunyuzBiznuss
      @NunyuzBiznuss 10 годин тому

      Yeah, it’s the app they created even before Apple Pencil was a thing. It’s languished and hasn’t been a priority.

  • @tlskyward3214
    @tlskyward3214 14 годин тому +2

    Apple can't make a windows version. Apple can suck it.

  • @Mr.Shuppandi
    @Mr.Shuppandi 22 години тому +2

    Firstt?? 🥲

  • @RB-vf9xn
    @RB-vf9xn 17 годин тому

    The first line of ur description is messed up, @thebradcolbow