Having seen how the final game looks like, feels like and how little played are in the starting roster, I strongly believe that they had it in development for PS4 at least, they must have shelved it indefinitely and then decided to finish it and release it. I waited for so long to play the next TopSpin game, I can wait until it is more polished and gets more players. And if they hold up to their promises.
always online? i wasnt gunna buy this game based on the micro transactions but this is just another reason. so glad i checked here before pre ordering the ultimate edition.
I think it would be great if they added a "download players" option to this game. That way, we could download players created by the community. Playing a tennis game without the full roster is like playing a football game without Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, etc. The roster definitely needs to be improved.
'Back in the day' I was a local amateur tennis and table tennis tournament player in Rhode Island, eastern CT, and southeast Massachusetts. In tennis games for the PC in the past, I have been quite disappointed in the lack of realism in gameplay. Honestly, I don't want to spend @ $60. for the same situation once again. I couldn't care less about what pro players are in the game. For me, it's all about realistic game play. So, what do I do? Can I get my money back if I am not satisfied?
Bro I would rather them slowly add these features and graphical updates over them being there day one but having massive bugs. I haven’t noticed any bugs so far and the gameplay is smooth.
Completely agree. I bought the game after the trial because I really got hooked on how fun but also challenging. If it had FC 25 graphics it would easily be my top 1 game and I own a lot of all genre. I hope they invest into it more to make it look better
I don't care I was addicted to top spin 4. I agree 25 isn't as good as its predecessor. I was expecting a better graphical experience and the gameplay is very similar to top spin 4. Its like I never left it. Still Im sure ill be playing this for the next 14 years... at least
Until I play topspin 2k25 Virtua tennis 3 will always be my favourite tennis game. I’ll definitely pick this game up though, but not until it’s reasonably priced.
I have a feeling the guys from Big Ant studios were involved in the graphics of Topspin 2k25. The big heads, the thunderbirds like puppet-movement of players when they're not playing are dead givaways.
If you really want to keep playing the same tennis game, you should check out AO Tennis 2 with mods, pretty sure modders will update their rosters all the time.
Is it better than Top Spin 3 though? Most casuals talk about TP 4 but 3 is the best gameplay in the series...but as usual casual gamers of nowadays prefer dumb down games.
Wozniacki is still playing 😁 not retired but anyways I think this games issues even in gameplay start to creepup when playing more seriously. Still even tho it borrows alot from TS4 it also has improvements that makes rallies shorter and much more likely to end in other ways than hitting winners
I can’t even see the ball most of the time, even after adjusting everything I can, so it’s pointless to really try and take scoring or caring if I win seriously.
There's only a limited amount of gameplay we could show in this video, but honestly, it's not like that at all, and it's really difficult to sustain a long rally!
Mass Effect Andromeda, which came out 7 years ago, has better character creator than this game. I bought the base version on sale and feel like that's as much as they deserve for how little effort they put into the game. Unless we're speaking of the passes and microtransactions, of course, they put a lot of effort into that. Still would recommend it to those who are looking for a solid gameplay.
@@CarlPearce no it haven’t. I bought to 130 edition for early release came out on the 22nd. Only people who had it early are people who know somebody within. That’s the only way
2024 and they have shitty micro transactions, no player list and venue creator (like AO), graphics lower than normal 2K, low player license, low venue license, like it majes it feel only worth $10.
It’s dead , it started dying wheb ps3 came out . Games just kept getting more expensive to make *Corporations started jumping in too much age wielding too much power * loved ip’s was not coming back or not fixing upgrading and suiting themselves for the new generation
@@weaverpsu it cost the same as a big budget game. i played the early released game and it play very similar to topspin 4 which is one of the best tennis game. tbh, the graphic is very ps3 like, im currently playing tennis world tour 2 also and the graphic is very good, way better vs topspin 2k25. the game play is very challenging, hitting a good - perfect timing is getting more difficult during the rally, as ur stamina depleting, the harder it gets to hit a perfect timing shot, and at normal difficulty u almost have to hit a perfect timing shot to hit a winner, hard ,extra hard and expert level require u to hit a perfect timing to b able to hit a winner and lots of time the AI would hit a winner out of ur perfect timing shots. very difficult game and improving u stat taking forever since everytime u level up u can only put a couple points into ur stats. if u have time, try it out.u won't regret.
@@weaverpsu No, it's way way waaaaaaaay lower budget... cause basketball games are bought by tens of millions of players worldwide while a tennis game is happy if it sells anything close to 1 million in it's whole life cycle... also gameplay of Top Spin 2K25 is way more polished than NBA 2K24... in NBA 2K24 if you're not playing as My Player with 30-40 badges any contested shot doesn't go in... that's NOT how real life basketball works... imagine a world where any shot that is decently defended never ever goes in... I played the Franchise mode and quit after 2 games since shooting with the best shooters in the world felt horrible and when the AI did a half decent job at defending me the green part became either so tiny you could barely see it or even vanished completely... and I was shooting as players that score 20-30 points per game on contested shots in real life... You can say it's a "skill issue" but it's not... making the timing so punishing that you end up abandoning jump shots if they're not wiiiiiiiide open is stupid... on the other hand Top Spin games re-created tennis gameplay FLAWLESSLY... it's extremely life-like, the strategy and the way you need to play the game is extremely realistic, the animations are incredible for the shots, slides and reaching defenses... So, which dev team is the more talented... the one that has meh gameplay that only caters to stupid kids that pay 100$ on VC to make their My Player even usable online and any other mode is trash? Or the one that recreated real life Tennis in a way that is very enjoyable and getting better at the game doesn't mean you need the reflexes to release a button within one thousandth of a second to hit a completely perfect green and nothing else? NBA 2K is absolute TRASH compared to Top Spin 2K25... but people just look at graphics and licenses and completely ignore the most important part... the fucking moment to moment GAMEPLAY!!!
Topspin 2k25 ball speed is way too slow nothing like real tennis and more players are now admitting it finally. Go to any real men's matches on UA-cam and the rallies and ball speed are much faster,2k25 just becomes boring to watch after a while and the roster and player models are a disgrace. The other tennis games that people are bagging out have a much more realistic speed gameplay.
This is a downgraded Top Spin 4. 13 years later and they have downgraded gameplay, visuals and missing two of the greatest players of all time who are still active
Tennis Elbow gameplay is good but it lacks of animations based on how high or low the ball is, also when sliding. TE has the more realistic career mode no doubt. However, Top spin is the winner in terms of gameplay
The barebones roster at launch makes this a buy on sale game for me.
Fair enough!
I did buy it on sale and even then I feel like I'm playing some kind of trial version.
Having seen how the final game looks like, feels like and how little played are in the starting roster, I strongly believe that they had it in development for PS4 at least, they must have shelved it indefinitely and then decided to finish it and release it. I waited for so long to play the next TopSpin game, I can wait until it is more polished and gets more players. And if they hold up to their promises.
Even as PS4 game it looks bad. The gameplay is solid, tho.
So, not mentioning always online career mode and server shut downs 2026. Your paying for a rental not a game to keep
Umm thats just like every single video game…
always online? i wasnt gunna buy this game based on the micro transactions but this is just another reason. so glad i checked here before pre ordering the ultimate edition.
Have they confirmed that or is that just something you are saying?
@messiahshow man, how lazy can you get. Look up, escapist 2k tennis always online? On Google. The carrer mode must have a internet connection.
I think it would be great if they added a "download players" option to this game. That way, we could download players created by the community. Playing a tennis game without the full roster is like playing a football game without Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, etc. The roster definitely needs to be improved.
'Back in the day' I was a local amateur tennis and table tennis tournament player in Rhode Island, eastern CT, and southeast Massachusetts. In tennis games for the PC in the past, I have been quite disappointed in the lack of realism in gameplay. Honestly, I don't want to spend @ $60. for the same situation once again. I couldn't care less about what pro players are in the game. For me, it's all about realistic game play.
So, what do I do? Can I get my money back if I am not satisfied?
Bro I would rather them slowly add these features and graphical updates over them being there day one but having massive bugs. I haven’t noticed any bugs so far and the gameplay is smooth.
Completely agree. I bought the game after the trial because I really got hooked on how fun but also challenging. If it had FC 25 graphics it would easily be my top 1 game and I own a lot of all genre. I hope they invest into it more to make it look better
yet to see any footage of matches taking place at night. Top Spin 4 had no night matches. Please tell me 2K at least added this ?
Yes, there is. But you have to pay extra $$$$
What is a championship serve that is included in the grand slam edition? Can you show it, compared to a non championship serve ?
I don't care I was addicted to top spin 4. I agree 25 isn't as good as its predecessor. I was expecting a better graphical experience and the gameplay is very similar to top spin 4. Its like I never left it.
Still Im sure ill be playing this for the next 14 years... at least
Until I play topspin 2k25 Virtua tennis 3 will always be my favourite tennis game. I’ll definitely pick this game up though, but not until it’s reasonably priced.
I have a feeling the guys from Big Ant studios were involved in the graphics of Topspin 2k25. The big heads, the thunderbirds like puppet-movement of players when they're not playing are dead givaways.
Nah Hanger 13 did all of this, Big Ant have a new tennis gamed called Tiebreak coming soon, it's on early access on steam now
@@adammonaghan9592 TIEBREAK have far more superior player face scans..imagine if they put the faces of TIEBREAK to TOPSPINS2K25s players!
From memory the flick serve was there in TS4. Looks like normal serve with button presses is also there… what’s new?
I hope there's many MOD to update the face & player gear
The ball boys/girls don't physically run out to retrieve the balls that hit the net? It is the little things that matter.
Welcome back, old boy.
It's possible to play for players local multiplayer in doubles
does it really best the Full Ace Tennis Simulator in terms of pure gameplay? i have to find out myself, thanks for the review.
Full ace tennis simulator has just had a big update and price reduced on Steam so I think I will get that instead, unless TopSpin goes on Gamepass
If you really want to keep playing the same tennis game, you should check out AO Tennis 2 with mods, pretty sure modders will update their rosters all the time.
For me, yes!
lol Full Ace and Tennis Elbow play and look like mobile games. Stop acting like those games are anywhere near this in graphics and animations.
Is it better than Top Spin 3 though? Most casuals talk about TP 4 but 3 is the best gameplay in the series...but as usual casual gamers of nowadays prefer dumb down games.
Never understand why anyone would take TS4 over 3 so i would like to know the same but most reviewers have no idea how good 3 was. 4 was so arcade
Exactly... TS3 was the real deal
I played madden 24 and then 2k25. Different sports sure but 2k25 is so much better its absolutely wild. 2k respects its audience. Ea does not
Wozniacki is still playing 😁 not retired but anyways I think this games issues even in gameplay start to creepup when playing more seriously. Still even tho it borrows alot from TS4 it also has improvements that makes rallies shorter and much more likely to end in other ways than hitting winners
I can’t even see the ball most of the time, even after adjusting everything I can, so it’s pointless to really try and take scoring or caring if I win seriously.
But the ball barely ever goes out. It’s just winners not very realistic I don’t get it
There's only a limited amount of gameplay we could show in this video, but honestly, it's not like that at all, and it's really difficult to sustain a long rally!
Mass Effect Andromeda, which came out 7 years ago, has better character creator than this game. I bought the base version on sale and feel like that's as much as they deserve for how little effort they put into the game. Unless we're speaking of the passes and microtransactions, of course, they put a lot of effort into that.
Still would recommend it to those who are looking for a solid gameplay.
2K save the NHL and FIFA franchises
Need more players but not in dlc
I love how ppl are making comments about this game when it’s not even out yet 😂 and the ppl comparing it bball has me rolling.
its been out the past couple of days if you pre order the DE.
@@CarlPearce no it haven’t. I bought to 130 edition for early release came out on the 22nd. Only people who had it early are people who know somebody within. That’s the only way
@@h-dawg1876 How about now? Have you proved yourself that all reviews from people were sadly correct?
2024 and they have shitty micro transactions, no player list and venue creator (like AO), graphics lower than normal 2K, low player license, low venue license, like it majes it feel only worth $10.
How much is 2K paying you to pump their average game?
Where is Rafa and Novak⁉️⁉️⁉️😤
what a joke right. These two have the most slams and are active players but the super rich 2k can't be bothered to pay for their license.
No Rafa , No Novak ; No Big 3 ; No PS5‼️
13 years waiting…..
RAFAE l Nadal😤….. ⚡️💥
🕊️ ✨NOVAK DJOKOVIC /The GOAT 🐐✨🕊️
@@TB9991i was ranked top 1% in topspin 4. I dreamed of this day and after all that we get a bootleg topspin knockoff
And when they would create them.. they would all have the same boring standard shots and movements.
Embarrassing!
I´ll wait for Tiebreak..
@@TB9991Imagine wanting to play Claydal or Bathroombreakovic over Federer the GOAT 💀
I've played it for hours. The gameplay is top notch. Everything else meh.
Definitely clunky... gaming just isn't the same. Its dying like society.
It’s dead , it started dying wheb ps3 came out
. Games just kept getting more expensive to make
*Corporations started jumping in too much age wielding too much power
* loved ip’s was not coming back or not fixing upgrading and suiting themselves for the new generation
The courts all play the same. Clay feels just like grass
The graphics are not acceptable for me. I won't buy it.
Fair enough!
I hope it was worth what they paid you. this game is horrendous.
£104!!!! You can buy 2 racquet's and balls for £40 and play for the rest of your life
graphic looks trash though. 2k basketball always has good graphic, y can't they do that with tennis?
Probably a lower budget and less talented team working to make the game
@@weaverpsu it cost the same as a big budget game. i played the early released game and it play very similar to topspin 4 which is one of the best tennis game. tbh, the graphic is very ps3 like, im currently playing tennis world tour 2 also and the graphic is very good, way better vs topspin 2k25. the game play is very challenging, hitting a good - perfect timing is getting more difficult during the rally, as ur stamina depleting, the harder it gets to hit a perfect timing shot, and at normal difficulty u almost have to hit a perfect timing shot to hit a winner, hard ,extra hard and expert level require u to hit a perfect timing to b able to hit a winner and lots of time the AI would hit a winner out of ur perfect timing shots. very difficult game and improving u stat taking forever since everytime u level up u can only put a couple points into ur stats. if u have time, try it out.u won't regret.
@@weaverpsu No, it's way way waaaaaaaay lower budget... cause basketball games are bought by tens of millions of players worldwide while a tennis game is happy if it sells anything close to 1 million in it's whole life cycle... also gameplay of Top Spin 2K25 is way more polished than NBA 2K24... in NBA 2K24 if you're not playing as My Player with 30-40 badges any contested shot doesn't go in... that's NOT how real life basketball works... imagine a world where any shot that is decently defended never ever goes in... I played the Franchise mode and quit after 2 games since shooting with the best shooters in the world felt horrible and when the AI did a half decent job at defending me the green part became either so tiny you could barely see it or even vanished completely... and I was shooting as players that score 20-30 points per game on contested shots in real life...
You can say it's a "skill issue" but it's not... making the timing so punishing that you end up abandoning jump shots if they're not wiiiiiiiide open is stupid... on the other hand Top Spin games re-created tennis gameplay FLAWLESSLY... it's extremely life-like, the strategy and the way you need to play the game is extremely realistic, the animations are incredible for the shots, slides and reaching defenses...
So, which dev team is the more talented... the one that has meh gameplay that only caters to stupid kids that pay 100$ on VC to make their My Player even usable online and any other mode is trash? Or the one that recreated real life Tennis in a way that is very enjoyable and getting better at the game doesn't mean you need the reflexes to release a button within one thousandth of a second to hit a completely perfect green and nothing else?
NBA 2K is absolute TRASH compared to Top Spin 2K25... but people just look at graphics and licenses and completely ignore the most important part... the fucking moment to moment GAMEPLAY!!!
This comment is insane 😂
I'm sorry but in my opinion, as long as the gameplay is fun, who gives a flying fig about graphics? I don't.
We tend to agree!
The career mode in this game is the worst thing ever. Dissapointed.
With such shitty graphics, there was no excuse for why this wasn't launched on the Switch as well
Ball retrievers that DON'T retrieve balls 😏😂😂😢
Name one game who has active ballboys...
@@Broccoli-ob2cz so why have them there looking like statues? 🤪🥴
I'll tell you why ... It's for deception!!
Kein Doppel möglich mit Freunden, weder offline noch online 😡😡😡
This game sucks, the roster is just unacceptable.
A game is more than its roster gameplay is the bar of a great game and this game has always delivered in this department.
Topspin 2k25 ball speed is way too slow nothing like real tennis and more players are now admitting it finally. Go to any real men's matches on UA-cam and the rallies and ball speed are much faster,2k25 just becomes boring to watch after a while and the roster and player models are a disgrace. The other tennis games that people are bagging out have a much more realistic speed gameplay.
i would buy this game but it reeks of micro transaction's
looks as clunky as their dumb nba games
ALWAYS ONLINE DRM. NO BUY EVER FOR ME.
This is a downgraded Top Spin 4. 13 years later and they have downgraded gameplay, visuals and missing two of the greatest players of all time who are still active
Downgrade in visuals? Bro you must be playing in braille
@@ToughLuckStudiohave an upvote
In what way have they downgraded thé gameplay ?
Nah bro the gameplay is actually improved lol and the graphics are actually pretty good. Gotta play it
@@ToughLuckStudiocharacter models are better in tp4. 2K25 has just higher res that's it. Lighting is still last gen.
Ace tennis simulator is much better than this one.
Listen...if its got a 2 and a K in it, you're gonna have a bad time..
I think u want to say E & A
Tennis elbow and full ace are better than this
So you've played this then 🙄
This guy has made comments on all reviews of the topspin. Not sure what his gameplan is, but take his comments with a grain of salt.
Tennis Elbow gameplay is good but it lacks of animations based on how high or low the ball is, also when sliding. TE has the more realistic career mode no doubt. However, Top spin is the winner in terms of gameplay
Don’t buy it and stfu
Agree. Full Ace is Excellent in terms of control...but the graphics obviously keep it from being a triple A title.
Jesus christ, the narrator's accent is unbearable
You mean 'loycenses' and 'gaymepleah'?