I Invented Something That Could Change Winching Forever!
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
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I use a soft shackle on the end of my synthetic winch line as my "hook" so I like the basic concept. However, I thought the whole point of the tree saver was to save the tree since it's wider than the thin ropes and doesn't cut into the tree. I also don't think the synthetic line will last very long with abrasions from the tree and that's a costly replacement rather than just having the $15 tree saver take the abuse.
It does come with protective sheaths for the small shackle end and larger trees too
I’m convinced tree savers are for cable. If you are just tying off to a tree you’re not going to hurt it with a loop of rope and it’s a decent size. But for redirects you need a pulley.
I would say use a tree saver if you can, if its an emergency situation then do what you have to do. Also keep in mind it is doubled up on the first 8 feet so its not as thin and there is also a sheath that will be over it that wasnt in the video.
@@bleepinjeep kind of a better way of saying it but not how it is designed or presented in the video.....
@@bleepinjeep If this is still in development phase, have you considered just making the last 8-10 feet a flat 2" strap? Seems like that would be the best of both worlds.
correct me if I'm wrong - I was told never wrap a winch line around a tree or anything else, as you'd be wearing out the winch line, That's why you use shackles and tree savers ????
He added a sheath in the final product. Also, the way it's set up, it doesn't sinch. And kinking steel cable is bad but you can't kink synthetic line.
You should never use a thin line around a tree as that much pull over a thin area damages or can even kill the tree. Tree saver are to save the tree not the winch line...
There are even limits to how thick a hammock strap should be ( 1" minimum I believe) no way u should ever wrap a thin even synthetic winch line around a tree. That's how we get places shut down. Shame on Matt he wheels in the south and should know better. I guess sometimes dollars over morals.
@@tjwatson981 a lot of time, dollars over morals. It's sickening what our country has become.
I’ve been waiting for you to release this after you hint it on matts off-road recovery
He also had me curious!
Same here
Same!
The spot for hooking around a tree is cute for the small trees. In the Pacific Northwest we have large trees and not sure it would fit around the trees around here. Plus isn't the tree saver part being a wider strap around the tree so you are not damaging the tree by using something thin that can dig into the tree.
He said there's tree loops for eight feet, might be close if you're trying to hook on a monster redwood but it should work for most trees. I'm wary of the knot though, in my experience putting a knot in a rope you're pulling with is iffy, but if he's figured out a way to do it without sacrificing strength then cool. I'm also wondering how hard it'd be to pull on it the wrong direction and pop that knot through the loop
Yeah the tree saver strap is literally for saving the tree from damage.
@@elyodeel same kind of knot that soft shackles use
@@elyodeel That knot is a diamond knot. It's the same as a soft shackle but the way he ran the rope back down the middle adds a lot of strength to it making it stronger than many soft shackles. The eyes ever 8 feet is clever but it can't replace a tree saver. Not enough surface area.
I was at Clayton two years ago and you could see all the tree damage from little winch ropes because that’s what everybody else did is I just put the rope around the tree and you seen rings burned into all the trees ripped all the bark off right there everything totally damages the trees
Matt, that is a great idea, but you really need look at the pricing schedule. $495-$525 is astronomical! $200 would still be expensive but at least doable.
Have you looked at buying a synthetic rope from a reputable place? $500 is pretty inline with what you would pay at ASR or Warn. Plus it's in the "kickstarter" spirit of helping an idea get off the ground.
@@timsullivan5016 he makes enough money on UA-cam alone. He Dont need our help to get his company off the ground. That price is way way to high.
@@timsullivan5016 you can get Amsteel rope for half that, I got 80’ of 7/16” for $185
@@timsullivan5016 I'd probably end up just breaking his little rope really fast on my rig. I've found very few synthetic lines that will work well on a 16.5ti
Yeah, he’s crazy!
Looks like a great idea, I still think it's wise to use a tree saver but it could easily be done while still using your set up.
Agree . Some trees are way rough. Plus for the occasion you gotta go around a rock. This setup with a tree saver for the win
Love it! But while I was looking at them, my wife asked "who'd pay 500 dollars for a ball gag?" So I'll hold off on ordering these until she's not home.
I've purchased 2 harleys and 2 trucks that way, easier to ask for forgiveness than permission!
How much does your wife usually pay for ball gags?
I would still use a tree saver. The load is the same on the tree a thin line bearing all the force cause internal damage to the tree a tree saver typicly spreads that out by 2 or 3 inches of width
Great idea. The only problem is recovery points often are sharp and aren’t radiused to suit rope which will damage the end. If only that part was replaceable
It is, version 2.0!
That is pretty nifty but sadly it doesn't replace a tree saver. Couple reasons. The tree saver is a flat strap for a reason. Its width spreads the pressure out that is against the bark thus protecting the cambia? layer. If that fragile part of the tree is damaged the tree will die. That layer is extremely fragile in spring on some trees. Even straps can still damage the fragile tissue just under the rough bark. The round rope is not only very small but it is round. The point of pressure against the tree will be very very high. Another problem will be rough tree bark causing excess wear on the rope. The rope itself is tough but the individual fibers are relatively fragile and fray pretty easy.
100% facts
I wonder if this is a holdover from steel line? If you’ve ever fully unspooled your synthetic line, you’d know it ends up flat as a pancake...
In the end I would rather kill a tree then be stuck.
You can still use a tree saver since the soft shackle is built into the rope.
Great design! Love everything but the price. 😇
Seen people doing basically the same here in Australia ever since dynema rope has been out.
Only thing I’m concerned with is abrasion on the rope wrapping it around a tree and a tree saver. We use synthetic line on our chipper winch and after some abuse wrapping it around trees as a choker it eventually fails and needs to be retied.
Great idea hopefully one of the big winch companies contact you for an exclusive. Offering huge lump sum along with royalties.
A tree saver is usually 3-4" for a reason. The rope going around the tree will cause excess wear on the winch rope and still cause damage to the tree! Maybe not as bad a steel cable, but it will damage it. My winch recovery kit lives under my passenger seat. I can reach it and had it out to someone without undoing my seat belt. I have other recovery kits stowed away, but the winch kit is nothing more than a 4" tree strap held together with a soft shackle and a winch blanket. 95% of the time thats all you need. I keep other soft shackles within reach of the drivers seat, just in case..
Keep in mind the final version will have a chafe guard on it as well and it doesn't slip like a rope around a tree back to itself with a hook... but for sure you can definitely still use a tree saver with this rope and I would suggest it in non-hurried winching situations.
So funny, this guy gets bashed on the forums but on youtube people love it. I think its pretty cool
Great idea but tree savers are wide straps that distribute stress over
More Area. Your idea with tree saver is perfect
you can absolutely use a tree saver as well.
@@bleepinjeep using just the line will damage trees... hence the name tree saver. Not using a tree saver is poor stewardship.
@@bleepinjeep Best bet might be editing out the no tree saver required aspect, If it ruffles feathers here what does it do for the tree huggers cause.
Tree saver is also to keep people from hooking on the winch line and having it synch down around the tree. This is often a bigger issue than the area the force is distributed.
I use a few foot piece of retired fire hose as a sheath with synthetic rope, would be super easy to add to this, and would protect trees.
Lighter ATV version?
I love it so fast, light,and easy. Winch n go.
I just realized that it would be nice on my shop winch too.
You need to put this on everything that winches.
Great product and idea.
Some of us have spent considerable time trying to get people to use tree-savers so they do not kill the trees...and now this? Come on people, use a tree saver and save a tree!!! (you will also save a damaged and/or broken line) Sorry.
So the protective sleeve won’t save the trees?
@@timjchick
Yes it will!
@@timjchick it absolutely will not, increasing the diameter of the winch line by a millimeter with a rope sleeve isn't going to distribute the winch line load over the bark like it needs to be my a 2" (or wider) strap.
No, not like a good 3" or 4" wide tree strap will. There is a reason they are that wide.
So what you are saying is Newman would of survived in the first Jurassic Part?
indeed he would have!
Naa he wrapped the steel line around the tree like a savage.
"Might have" survived.
love your show.. but I will keep some steel in my box.. ive cut too many ropes and soft shackles on other peoples home fab'd bumpers and stuff.. you cant cut a shackle.. and even better if you get the alloy ones and not the cheap ones..
Dang that's pretty cool. It would be really handy in Florida swamps
It seems that it would be more simple to just have a loop in the end and use an ordinary soft shackle. You could still have the loops back further but just put the shackle through them. That way you could have the loop back at the winch out of the sun.
I came off with the cash and bought the freedom line... I have used it quite a few times.. the mere weight that I carry around and simplicity of it, works!
I kinda enjoy hearing "What is that?" as they point at my winch line (Freedom Line)..
Thanks for making my trail life a little easier..
Thanks for sharing! It's amazing, now if we could just get the word out to everyone!
You putting on the treesaver and the "pacifier" thing. Reminds me of those Infomercial things.
Do you hate trying to cook?
**Drops fry pan on floor**
I have always laughed at those Infomercials. They have the shakes, drop things, can't hold onto a plug, drop lids... I have yelled at the screen, "You should not be allowed to touch things that break!" Good catch on your part!
That's exactly what i was thinking. Really sells the product when they start dropping everything, because you know, that's what everyone does all the time.
It looks pretty cool. You would still need a snatch block for doubling the winch and changing direction of pull.
You need to make these for the atv market too. I’d definitely run one on my quad. More peace of mind on those hard winch pulls
I’m enjoying watching the growth of your channel. So much great info. Thank you! Good job!
The Tree Saver is just that. It is intended to minimize the damage to a tree. Please don’t wrap any type of winch line around one of our trees!
Tree Humper
great idea now incorporate this idea into all sizes of winch lines.I need one for my 3K winch on my ATV. 5/16
Cool idea, but I would still use a tree saver. As just wrapping your line around the tree does not save it from getting scared, and I would be worried about long term use and what effect the trees might have on the line itself. Side note Freedom Recovery gear already exists, and I just got their synthetic winch line!
Why are you here? Go finish that engine swap out so we can see it done. No time to be wasted here! 😆👍
Guessing that if you pull the the knot 🪢 inside the fairlead, you have to unspool the whole length of rope to feed the winch end in first, then rewind the spool 🧵
But I like it 👍
Now the only thing left to do is eliminate the need to Unspool the Winch line and you'll have the simplest setup around.
Years ago the Landrovers had front-mounted Capstan winches with no rope or cable. You tie off to a tree, then run the rope around the hub and start pulling. The cool thing is that, since the rope isn't spooling on top of itself, the line is always at the highest torque position.
One could easily use a tree saver and your invention quit easily. No d-ring, just a tree safer and your winch rope. Just like the last part of the video.
My only issue is not using a tree saver strap. Round ropes do incredible damage to the trees bark, effectively making the tree sick. Flat straps are the only way to properly winch off a tree. Awesome line, and can't wait to get one!
Isn’t there already a few on the market like this? Bunny rope for example. I really like the idea and if I wasn’t in Canada I might consider it for my next rope. Thanks!
Olympus Offroad has had one of these for a few years which is much more affordably priced at great quality.
I don't have a winch on my Jeep but I got my Bleepinjeep Fan sticker today and that's all I needed. My Jeep is now complete.
Considering it’s made in USA 🇺🇸 well worth it!
thank you, doing business here is expensive but worth it in the long run.
@@bleepinjeep 100% couldn’t agree more! It’s way more expensive but for the quality worth it! Congrats on creating the idea! Also your videos definitely helped me push mine out 🤟
I’ve been looking for this. Glad you are making it. I’ll be ordering one soon!
So this is the lesson. If you have a great idea for an invention, don't go on Shark Tank. Just come up with a really cool youtube channel, build your subscribers up to over 400K and show it to the world! Go Matt!!!!!
pretty cool product i also like the rope over the steal cable because the steal splinters and cuts up your hand
"If you want to keep a secret from somebody, put it in a manual." Such as an old BoyScout Handbook, or Navy Sailors' Training Manual... I'm "Knot" busting your efforts - I think this is one of the neatest things I've seen for off-loading and towing in a long time! Best of luck with the patent and getting this out there!
If you made what might be called an extra long double ended soft shackle you could have all the features of your new winch rope that would still replace the bag of winching accessories. It would be a 'half way house' for anyone not wanting to spend as much money and could be used with existing traditional full length cable or rope winches until they were ready to replace with a new full length BleepinJeep rope.
Need these in utv sizes also!!!!! Count me for that.
the whole point of a tree trunk protector is to save the tree from being ring-barked by the thin winch rope, while i think this winch rope is a great emergency type system, using the proper gear if you have the time to, is better for the environment. while im no tree hugger, i know that if everyone went around wrecking trees with winches, parks and wildlife would soon be closing all the tracks to allow for revegetation. id also say its pretty rare for a quality hook to be the failure point of the winch or rope, so the chance of that going flying is very slim.
great idea you have, and it certainly has its place for emergency recoveries so well done there!
Still need the tree “saver” dude.
I think there are a lot of people thinking this is the same a hooking around a tree with a standard winch line. This line does not sinch tighter around the tree as it is not a choker. It is uses the same knot system as a soft shackle which also do not sinch tight. This line would not get any tighter around a tree then it was when you wrapped it around the tree and applied the knot lock. With this system you would eliminate tree choking and rope abrasion(as long as you lined up the rope between the tree and the winch vehicle). In fact the only difference I see between this system and a tree saver is the width. Given that most people don't want to bother with the tree saver for whatever reason(PITA, lost, buried in the back somewhere) this is still a good option and a great idea. I am not saying this should eliminate tree savers in every case but it is way different then choking a tree with a standard winch line. Good Job Matt
I understand what your saying but the stress from the thin line on the side of the tree way from your winch will still cause permanent damage. If you winch on the tree one way today, and someone else a different direction tomorrow you could easily still kill the tree. Just use a tree saver.
If you guys ever make a version for UTV winches I'd definitely buy one. I think this might be a bit thick for a small UTV winch but I love the idea.
we have atv sizes now... bleepinjeep.com
Brilliant! I would pre order but I don't even have a winch yet!
I was sold, until I realized it cost more than my winch 😬
Works exactly the way I hang my hammock for camping. Just on a larger scale. Going to preorder soon.
I will 100% buying 2 of them when finish my Jeep and putting one on my trailer
Great work that looks like a million dollar idea right there. Im going to buy one when I have the money and get a winch.
I am genuinely impressed with all the jeepers that care about protecting the trees properly...you seriously need to drop the “use it on a tree” marketing and stick with the most important feature...there is no metal involved and it is much safer. Also I agree, find another US vendor to do your manufacturing. It needs to be priced about $300.
Some fisherman is dying of laughter on that you “invited” that knot:P but still a good idea! Make a mini version for hammocks!$$$
I think hammock straps are already more compact and work much better. Adjustable and all. And they won't tangle as easy as rope
I think I could tie a soft shackle at the end of a rope as well. I could see the end wearing out and causing a failure, and where as a soft shackle, hook, or clevis can be replaced you would need to replace the whole rope.
Yes I think the same thing, when the soft shackle part will break or wear you will need to replace the entire expensive line.
Also, I don't think you can avoid the tree saver with this line, not large enough.
That's awesome.. That would even work on tow trucks.. Cause most of them now are using synthetic lines.. Yes there are times that you need frame hooks or j hooks..
Honestly I was extremely excited to order one for me and another for my brother until I saw the price. 500 for a winch rope seems craZy. I know it has what ever features but it seems silly to buy a rope that’s the same price as the winch and doesent cover the price of all the accessories it replaces
Just get a FID and do it to your existing rope. It’s just a built in soft shackle. Loop and a Lovers knot. I’d rather just have a loop so my options aren’t limited. I don’t always use a soft shackle on the end though. It’s easy enough to put a soft shackle on a loop instead of a flat link or a clevis hook. Just my 2¢…
Good idea, however every rope has a minimum radius specification. By putting your freedom line through a sharp recovery point as you have, you risk of cutting your line. A 7/8" diam. or 1" diam. shackle will not damage rope unlike a sharp recovery point. Having said that, It's still a good idea, hope it takes off. Good luck. Cheers.
Great idea, I like it. But don't throw away those tree huggers, shackles and recovery rings. You will still need them on some occasions.
yes indeed, you still need those depending on the situation.
@@bleepinjeep Which kind of contradicts the statements you made in the video of why this winch line is some kind of new revelation.
@@iffykidmn8170 Nope. He specifically said you wouldn't need extra accessories 90% of the time. The point isn't to avoid carrying recovery gear, the point is to avoid having to use it every single damn time you winch.
As a hammock backpacker i have to urge you to not advise people they no longer need to use a tree saver. We use tree straps any time we hang to protect the trees. We a few hundreds of pounds when the forces are calculated. A 6000 lb jeep is alot of force on a rope like that. However, this design is awesome!! Even with a tree saver it is still safer and faster! I am not in the market currently but i am 100% saving this product for when i get a winch! Good job!!
yes, you can always use a tree saver with this too.
My anti-gravity drive eliminates the need for winching. Or getting stuck. I’ll be releasing the tech next week. Stay tuned.
Sounds similar to my 4x4 hover vehicle.(patent pending)
That is just Genius . Love your channel Matt
MADE IN THE USA - This channel is what it is because of YOU! Thanks so much for sticking with me on this journey. I've been working on this winch line for years (8 years to be exact). And it has finally culminated into a product that I can be proud of. I cant tell you how many times I've needed to winch someone in a hurry, even in life threatening situations... but the accessories weren't there or buried away in a drawer somewhere. The Freedom Winch line solves all those issues with no accessories required and everything you need to winch stays right there in the winch itself!
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I’ve been using soft shackles for awhile now, didn’t think to weave one directly into synthetic line! Nice invention! Cheers
I see a lot of comments on price with this, but as I see it if you buy a Warn winch line and tree saver, Factor 55 end and soft shackles, You're saving about $100 with this.
I think you could certainly feel like you're getting less because it's just the rope with some man hours put in but assuming the quality is the same this is saving money with a product that's going to be less hassle?
Cheers to Matt on this. I hope he gets that patent before it gets ripped off by everybody because this is going to be a popular way to do it.
Thanks Ryan, I'm glad you get it!
That would damage the winch line. I would rather damage my soft shackles then replace winch line.
Correct. I don’t know what the tensile strength is on that particular rope but I do know that any knot in a rope reduces its tensile strength by at least 50%. I’ll stick with my tree saver
@@willcas1674 I have compromised several soft shackles wrapping them around the tow point. Don't want to compromise the actual winch line itself cost more than the shackles
Exactly what I thought, one nick and it’s done for. I could see making a extension to put on the end of your existing synthetic line. Just put a loop on the end and run it through the other, roll
It up and you’re good to go.
Dude, admittedly I clicked on this video so I could scoff at whatever it was you invented but this is freaking awesome. I came across it while watching videos on soft shackles as I'm putting together a recovery kit for my truck. I don't have a winch otherwise I would preorder a line right now. Actually, maybe I should just order one and use the recovery rope because I could still simplify my recovery kit. This along with a few shackles so I can create a snatch block would be awesome.
When the end wears out do you need to buy a whole new line, or can it be repaired?
If you have the knowledge and effort capacity - with minor tools- you can make any version that you want. Look up “hownottohighline” soft shackle making episodes.
ua-cam.com/video/91_jEjQdlBU/v-deo.html
But having a premade one is great.
Repair would just be duplicated on a shorter line....
It's just a soft shackle tied into the end of the line with a long tail to create the re attachment anchor loops. This has been around for years. 👍🏻takes about 30 minutes to re-create.
@@zerocoolak Yeah, just thinking about when it breaks down from dirt and rocks, it might take a lot of the end with it. Considering this costs as much as a winch, that's quite a downside. Using a plain cable with various ends that will take the most abuse will save your cable longer.
Pinching is not the reason why metal cables break. that's was merely part of the issue. metal cable snapped due to improper use and/or improper servicing of the cable. You can easily snap synthetic and still cause a dangerous whip with the same improper use. The only difference is you don't need to lubricate the cable to ensure it is not rusting inside out and it's not as dangerous and metal cable (However it is still dangerous). With both steel and synthetic the cable needs to be periodically inspected for wear but with synthetic you have to take more concern than metal.
Also how does this save trees? you went from a wide band that evenly distributes the stress back down to the winch cable width. Same as using chain or any other cable and choke the tree like before. Also now you're putting wear on your cable by wrapping it around abrasives instead of throwing a "tree saver" strap and sacrificing that instead.
quicker easier faster? maybe
Stronger? Where's the test for tensile strength? I'm not talking about lifting up 50% of your Jeep weight up a tree at a higher than 15%. You just shown it can do 3,000lbs. You're stating it should do 30,000lbs. The cable is capable at 30,000lbs but how about the knot? what is the point of failure where the knot can not held with friction by pinching it between the rope loop?
Let's be honest. majority of people getting "stuck" are at most at 10,000lbs of resistance. If a 5,000lb vehicle is truly stuck it will be at around 15,000lbs of resistance.
Depending on the brand of 3/8 " HMPE line (what your product description is on your webpage) depends on capacity but you will find around 19,000 lbs. That is far cry from the 30,000lb rating that you're claiming.
Considering it is a 3/8" HMPE line you should test the knots and loop configurations to that 19,000lb spec. 19,000lb is plenty for these lightweight vehicles as long as the knot and loops do not fail under tension. I'm concerned that at 19,000 lbs the knot will slip out of the pinching loop which a shackle would not do.
If your product safely passes or surpasses that 19,000lb rating at independent testers then this will be quite the upgrade. I would love to see this knot get tested at every loop and see if it can hold the capacity of that 3/8" HMPE line of 19,000lbs.
Since you're getting into the winch business I would love for someone to start actually teaching the real principles of winch operations. It's more than just hooking a line up and pulling and if doesn't pull then using a 2:1. there are so many factors into winching that that. I have yet to see any channel get deep into it correctly and hit all the numbers right.
Brother. Drop the price by $150 and I'm in.
Well I watch a youtube video here a couple weeks ago about putting a soft shackle and a eye slice in the end of a fiber winch line. since I have been recently making my own soft shackles using the improved soft shackle method. Currently working on soft shackles made of 1/4 inch 12 strand.
As I said to you Nick your old partner in Beeping Jeep a term that my father coined: there is nothing greater than an idea that's time has come
It doesn't justify the price.
for real 495$ is crazy
Wow. Sure have come along way from slapping wj coils and acos spacers in Cherokees. Soft shackle winch line 🎉🎉🎉💯💯💯
Is the rope actually made in America or did someone’s grandma take a crocheting needle to 70$ Chinese rope in America?
right now it is 100% made in the USA
Great product less fail points as well!
I see this being the standard on winches from here on out.
I own a towing company and do off road recoveries with my Jeep (like a not quite as cool version of Matt) and this looks awesome! It's going to be a huge time saver and I'm definitely going to order a couple!
Very cool!
I'd like to see you over spool it in.. could imagine it been a nightmare to get the knot back out
This is 100% one of those "why did anyone ever do it any other way?" kinda ideas... GREAT job...
once i saw soft shackles a couple years ago i kinda thought about this, great idea Matt. thats the end of extra hardware chipping off the powder coat on your expensive bumper so it can then rust.
Good call!
Crazy idea but... what if you and Matt’s recovery worked with yankum ropes to make a yankum rope with one of these soft shackles?
I was already to pre-order till I saw the price you wanted . come on man!
I’m sold! The scrambler needs one on the 8274.
Wanting to put a wench on my old school 2001 7.3 liter F-350. (Fifth wheel tug). Love this idea!
If you put a single line around a tree, you should be fined for it. Tree savers exist for a reason.
Thanks for slowly ruining the trails for others.
Your like the les claypool of jeeps. Bad ass idea. I'll support it.
$495+ for a winch line? You high?
Yea its nice and but I'll just stick to my regular synthetic line.
They call it a tree saver because it saves the tree. What your doing is about the same as wrapping the line around the tree and hooking it back to itself. Plus if you run a synthetic rope through an anchor point with 90 degree edges, you cut into the rope. How many times can you do that before you break the end of the rope? That rope doesn’t look cheap, hope it comes with a good warranty.
$500? Really?
Yep, a legitimate USA made synthetic winch line is expensive, then add all the accessories in and you are liking at way more than $500. So with this you are actually saving money!
A good winch line will cost you around $400+. Soft shackles are around $40 or so each. This has both and eliminates the need for everything in my winch bag with the exception of gloves & snatch block (when needed). Of course, this is unless one goes on the cheap. But one should never skimp on safety items. I have seen about a dozen or so Amazon/Ebay winchlines snap. Usually on their first pull. Just keep that in mind. Quality is not cheap and cheap lacks quality. IMHO
@@rodtoler maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but I haven't found a single USA made synthetic rope for over $300.
Cool Idea Matt! If I only had a winch now.... 🤔 🤣👍
Liked, subscribed, and will be checking out the site for this. Looks like a great product for most of us!
I bought a tree saver but haven't bought any other accessories yet. That will save space in the truck since I have an access cab. By the time you add everything up it will probably be close to the the cost of the freedom winch line. I will be looking into this.
Absolutely brilliant. You’re going to get rich off that for sure.
Matt, I don't see anywhere on the site where you mention the length of the line.
Genius. Don't have a winch but when I get one I'm getting your line.
Very cool concept. Convenient, light weight and quick too but I can't justify the price when it costs the same as my whole winch 😣
As others have stated I dont think this would replace everything when it comes to winching, but I do see value in it. Cant afford to pre-order one but would be something I would consider in the future.
Lmfao! "Dont worry you're upside down" that shit was gunny.
Dude! This is GREAT! Kudos brother.
Love it Matt, only problem I see is you should pair it with a soft shackle. If the freedom line is used as a shackle point and it gets cut, person is SOL, especially if they have no other recovery gear because this is how this product is marketed. No other gear needed mentality will end up with newbies complaining. Sell it with a soft shackle And recommend that as the primary way it is to be used. Best of luck and great product will keep an eye on this.
Ultraviolet light will keep you selling them...
But if you can tie a knot you can make a soft shackle on the end of you existing line in a pinch.
But pre-made sure - I like it - and might just grab one..