The Yankum Offset winch ring changes everything!
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2023
- Synthetic winch line and recovery rings completely changed the world of winching and recovery. Then Alan at @YankumRopes came up with a solution to one of the only issues with the system when he designed the offset recovery ring. The non spinning ring stops any friction wear and heat from being placed into the soft shackle, and took the idea of the recovery ring a step further.
But when I got a late night almost panicked sounding call from Alan telling me that the offset rings also have another massive feature that no one had thought of, I had to try it myself!
Since I removed the hook from my winch lines, I can easily pass the loop on the end of my line through e center of the ring and use it as two snatch blocks in one. That allows me to do a 3, 4, or 5 part pull with only two recovery rings and three soft shackles and the whole setup weighs less than three pounds. To do that same thing with traditional snatch blocks and steel shackles, you would need to have four steel snatch blocks, and five steel shackles. Which is a lot of weight, and a lot of space taken up in your rig.
Now of course, these offset rings and the grooved fairlead that allows you to ditch the hook are expensive, no doubt about it. But once you realize the capabilities that they allow, you realize that they are actually cheaper than four quality American made steel snatch blocks and five shackles.
I’ve tested this setup a few different ways since this video, and am extremely happy with how well it works. This absolutely changes my entire mindset on how much gear I need to carry, and how I rig up recoveries. But as always, keep the working load limits of your gear in mind and be sure to stay within them. This technique can create a lot of force with a small winch and the gear your using, as well as the attachment points you’re hooking to on the vehicles needs to be kept at safe pull numbers. This is purely a demonstration of the type of force this technique can create.
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As soon as you said "it's two" I instantly saw what he meant, and then you rigged it and I was right. That's freaking brilliant and I can't believe nobody saw it before, Alan is absolutely a genius!
edit: Then you explained why nobody could have thought of it before, because Alan wasn't selling the particular combination of products that make this genius idea possible before recently. Good going Alan.
I did the same thing
Yeah, you're right. And you'd need the offset hole version, this wouldn't work with a centre hole recovery ring.
Very cool
I think i saw something similar with pulley in some offroad videos from australia, but yes it is great idea.
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Thanks for the kind words casey 😊 I’m very excited to see how these rings improve our industry!
I’m curious what kind of testing you have done?
How much shorter is rope life? Different rope materials? Different coatings?
WLL? Safety factor?
Hi Alan do you sell/post to the Uk ? 👍🏽😎
After this video, I’m looking at picking up two of these. Is there a need for “fingers” on the block to hold the winch line into the groove like what Factor 55 uses. Or does the winch line automatically line up with the block under load.
@@old_con yes we do!
@@billpotter35 we are doing our second round of testing next week, with all of the models the biggest concern isn’t the ring itself, it’s the soft shackle holding the ring. We recommend a 7/16” minimum when considering a 3:1+
Casey, you have a gift of being able to explain and teach. Keep being honest & don’t ever worry about silly people that type negative stuff. My husband plays every single video you make & I enjoy them too.
They're going to need more of these rings because this video is going to break the internet
Not at $174.99 each…
NO way.!. NOT at $174 !!!
I thought I was going to purchase a few of these until I saw the price.
I will NEVER buy these, Not even if I was insanely rich. I would NEVER give that much money for one. There is NO reason for this price! It wasn’t that much more expensive to manufacture, so why so greedy price. I’ll just wait for someone more reasonable to start marketing these and a reasonable price.
I love the idea, but the price is unreasonable, unrealistic, and unfair
Maybe version 2 will be thicker to be less hard on the rope through the center..
@@MrMrsregor A recovery could easily cost as much as a pair of rings.
@@DangerRanger89 possibly the first ones made are going to be high cost, and usually they" anything first made" is always high till they're getting more orders and usually then the process of manufacturing costs are paid for and after that is when it becomes cheaper but time will tell...but If he would lowered the price and still be paying for first time cost and get more sold out to us user's than he could possibly have a great profit, it will just take a little longer for the manufacturing costs but will end up the same.... with the lower price.....
Casey, you have an ability to explain something technical but entertaining at the same time. Well done!
DITTO! That’s why I love his content.
Like my husband said this morning, “stuff I’d never use or need but really interesting”. My reply, “yes it’s very interesting and you never know when that knowledge might come in handy for you or someone else”. Great video as always Casey.
Here I’m thinking: “I wonder how much heat those friction points are dissipating…” and Casey brings out the laser temperature probe. Very cool!
I love how Casey "pulls" us in to lessons in physics, and makes learning about it fun! 😁
Thanks for sharing with us!
I met Alan in Moab at Safari and he talked to me like he had nothing else to do. What a nice guy- with a great name! Great demo Casey!
This video shows another reason why I really enjoy your channel. You clearly explain how and why a simple design change can make a huge difference in effect and operation. Just like in the "Wrecker Games" when you advised Merlin to double the soft shackle to double it strength on the heavy pull, a small change can make a major difference. And yes, Alan is a very smart man, and it is awesome that he is manufacturing his products in the USA. Thanks Casey, and Alan!
That is actually genius imo……very impressive rigging set up.
I am watching this as a electrician. And seeing a opportunity for this to be a awesome wire pulling tool. With the correct setup this could be quite awesome
I'm an old logging mechanic, grew up in logging camps and worked in the bush most of my life. I don't go out 4 wheeling so no recovery stuff on my truck. But as soon as you started talking about the rings and held one up, I had it figured out.
Brilliant.
I'd bet Allen loves your curiosity. Looks like you had a blast exploring the setups.
I sincerely hope that Alan was able to get a patent for this wonderful piece of equipment.
You know he did
What would a patent do? China will copy it anyway and they don't give 2 Fs about IP
He didn't invent anything new. They've been around for hundreds of years. Look up sailboat rigging.
@@bcad4066 This is also true. All these rope shackles that have appeared lately have all been used in the Marine industry for decades.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 Some of the best instruction for how to videos on splicing, loops and soft shackle are on the marine channels. sailing, mountaineering, arborists have been using rings for years. Kudos to Casey for making a video on how to utilize these techniques in the recovery community.
You are right, Alan is a genius. He can sell more products by selling you less than you thought you needed. Another plus is the weight & space saved for storage.
After watching many, many of your videos, I had an opportunity to rescue my self. While swinging my Toyota Highlander and trailer (approx 1500 pounds) around in the front yard to back into the driveway, the Toyota sunk up to the rims in clay muck. It had rained the night before and I "thought" I could make it. I grabbed a come-a-long to use the block function and ran a 15,000 pound nylon rope from the Toyota to a tree, thru the block and finally to the tow hook on my 13 year old, very tired 2000cc Kia Forte. Not only did the Toyota roll free, but i was able to drag the Toyota/trailer combo sideways for a couple feet until the tires got up on top of the muck. Haha. Not recommended, but it worked for me. Thanks.
I came to this channel to learn about the offset recovery ring, and boy did I learn a lot. This was sooo valuable. Thank you from someone whose been watching
Jeep related videos for a decade without ever even owning a Jeep. Getting my skills sharpened for maybe someday :) cheers from a retired dude
Nice job explaining all the testing. Alan is pretty much an awesome genius, now he just needs to work on his off-road skills. Feel bad for him when he rolled but he got up and kept going. Glad he didn’t hurt his nogging.
He just can't help himself to create situations to show off his products 😂
Necessity is the mother of invention so they say.
Let me tell you from experience… there is a cheaper way…. Lol 😂
Allan's off road skills are WHY he makes such excellent recovery gear! 😂
I think that's his trademark and tradition. 🙃
It's good to see how dedicated you are to your passion.
Casey, this is totally a game changer!!! I was very impressed with this when we were able to discuss this rigging at the wrecker games. Keep it up man !
After watching Alan roll his stuff multiple times, I think I see where the "secret" in secret genius comes from😂. All joking aside though, that really is incredibly cool and very smart
If you're going to be a recovery expert you need to practice. Alan gets plenty of practice. 🤣
He needs a exoskeleton on his rig.
@@Coolhansolo And on his body.
Alan has only rolled it once!
@@CaseyLaDelle that's true. He wasn't driving the first time.
And as we all know, kinetic friction is easier to overcome than static friction. That is , once you have it moving it is easier to keep it moving than start it again !! Excellent video Casey !
Yes, someone should invent something like those rings, but without the friction. I know - what about a pulley with a sheave???
@@TheSwordsmon older snatched blocks with a diameter of 5" has very little friction and no damage to line.
This is by far one of my current favorite channels! Love all the uploads!
Really enjoy how you explain things. I mostly plan to avoid anything to do with recovery. But I think I could get by in a pinch thanks to you.
Casey: My background is my years in Mountain SAR using ropes, pulleys, carabiners and other gadgets of the trade to build mechanical advantage systems. Your use of multiple "Recovery Rings" (yeah, it's a pulley!) looks exactly like the mechanical advantage systems used in SAR all over the world.I've built many more hundreds of such systems than I can possibly recall. Some points for people (you already know this, obviously) to remember:
The key to making a mechanical advantage (Block & Tackle, look it up) is that the pulleys must travel with the load. If the distance between the pulleys cannot change, then you have a Change of Direction, (frequently useful too) not a Mechanical Advantage.
Friction in the system takes some of the mechanical advantage out of it. This is why SAR teams use high quality pulleys with bearings or bushings so the wheel turns. It prevents friction building up heat and damaging the rope, which I have witnessed happen.
Rope on Rope Under Tension: Super Bad Thing! The friction of ropes on ropes under load can build enough heat to melt the synthetic fibers of the rope. Have seen it happen.
Not that I'm able to get out and about anymore, cuz I'm not, but as much as I am super impressed with your friend Allen's products I wouldn't want to use his new Recovery Ring or any recovery ring. Why is because of the temperatures you measured on the rope. What I saw there was about a twenty degree temperature rise in a very, very short and very slow movement of the load. That tells me the friction is taking a lot of the pulling force and converting it to heat. I'm concerned that in a more difficult, more protracted recovery operation that heat rise would be much greater.
So for me, my choice would be to buy quality pulleys (strangely also called "snatch blocks") where the wheel is designed to turn as easily as they can make it under the load. Those systems I am super familiar with.
One more thing, about ropes. Terminology varies for the same thing. Static rope (or "Lines") are used in Rescue for lifting people, for building mechanical advantage systems to move people up or down the mountain. By "Static" we mean the rope is designed to have very low stretch, alike to your synthetic winch lines. Compare that to a Dynamic rope designed to have a greater amount of stretch which is used for rock climbing. If a climber falls the Dynamic rope stretches and removes much of the shock of stopping. A Dynamic (same family as a kinetic/recovery) rope would not be used for lifting as a lot of the work goes into stretching the line just to get it moving.
Lastly, been a long time but I have had to use retired SAR gear (too old and worn to have human life at the end of it) to recover a stuck vehicle. That included a 300 foot length of 1/2" PMI static line.
That was an interesting day.
@@thumbs3263 Yes, it does. All the rope segments are under the same tension, so as long as you correct for angle, you can calculate the pull by looking at each segment.
While your concern regarding friction is viable, the dynamic coefficient of friction for Dyneema is down below 0.1 yarn to yarn, so likely less against hard anodized aluminum. When you consider that the single line tension capacity of most winches mounted to a vehicle are 1.5-2x the weight of the vehicle, the amount of friction seen in a 2-4 line rigging situation is negligible.
If this was a SAR situation where you were pulling my hand, you want to save effort everywhere you can. I have a steel snatch block with a bushing in it. It works well but it accounts for a good 40% of the weight of my recovery rigging kit. I'd be willing to trade some friction for weight savings!
@@ZKTJ I agree that saving a few kilos of weight is paramount if you're carrying it on foot! But when it's literally just a few kilos being packed into a vehicle, it's really neither here nor there when it comes to better or worse recovery gear.
I suspect the coefficient of friction between dyneema and polished aluminium is also around 0.1, which means that if you're applying a (doubled) load of, say, 40kN on the ring, that's as much as 4kN of frictional force. That's quite a bit of energy having to be dissipated as the rope runs through. This is not S&R dealing with human-size loads!
Thats such an amazing rigging. Good job casey. Your genius with recovery never fails to amaze me.
Confirmed - true genius comes in all forms! This is why your channel never fails to entertain and educate.
Awesome content Casey. I really enjoy your "How To" videos. I regular watch rigging videos just to learn and this was one of the best I've watched. Thank you sir. Now time for me to save up for some more Yankum stuff!
And that's how you make a sponsored video that's not actually sponsored. Not that there's anything wrong with that... 😁 Outstanding video as always Casey. You can definitely see how you and Alan are true professionals of your industry.
Absolutely awesome thank you for the demonstration. I’m gonna order two of them right now. Have a blessed day.
🙏🏽, we will all appreciate using this when we need to. Compact and extremely effective 🤙🏽
Nice vid Casey! Yankum products are great and so nice to see that they are made in USA. Yes, Alan is a genius and nice guy. I'm impressed with you as well. That was pretty impressive to do the addition in your head while filming. I had to get my calculator out to check and you we're right on! Always enjoy your channel!
Awesome video Casey with a great training & learning lesson.
I agree that Alan is a secret genius.
Even though I will probably never need to do any recoveries, I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos.
As always great job on explaining. Thanks for taking the time to make your videos.
Superb demonstration. Thank you.
Genius idea Alan now if you can figure out how to keep your crawler from laying over against the rocks. Love your enthusiasm in the demonstration Casey. The diversity and enthusiasm, compounded by your detailed explanation are what sets your channel apart and making even the less exciting episodes interesting. Oh and we need more site seeing. Missing them.
That's awesome, now I wanna do recovery work!! Love the videos Casey keep it up!
Remember, plumbing seems easy until you are on your back under a sink inside a tiny cabinet and the puddle of water is always very cold....
Mud, dirt, etc. Recovery gets cold and nasty... It isn't for everyone. Enjoy and be blessed. 😊
Love your videos Casey, and big of you to highlight Allen's genius!
Once again one of your brutally honest reviews. Alan owes you! But I am sure you two work well together.
i thought the offset ring was genius .. this is next level genius .. hope Alan & Yankum have plenty of stock
As a TJ owner with limited storage space I think this is brilliant. BTW one time at band camp I drove a 44,000lb rollback😂
Okay, mind blown! Good job Casey!
I was totally screaming about this only working with the modified Apex/standard Yankum winch line, and sure enough, that was the key to the whole operation you mentioned in the beginning. Good experiment, and very well explained!
I wish we had you as instructor in AIT or Recovery course in the Army. I was a crew member aboard a M578 recovery vehicle and I have learned more from your channel than ALL the training I received in the military. We never seemed to train in mechanical advantages as we should have. That vehicle was capable of much more than we used it for. New sub here ! Thanks !
"You will all receive the standard substandard training and compete on the game grid for the entertainment of the users" 👽
I like what you are doing with these snatch blocks, and it is something I have thought of doing before. The problem, what makes this little piece of aluminum so strong is the fact that the winch rope and soft shackle are pulling against each other with the ring in between them. If you put a recovery ring between two soft shackles and pull in opposite directions, it will fail at only a fraction of the strength it is rated for. I'm glad you thought to talk about this. I hope nobody tries this with the cheep amazon rings. Has Yankem tested one of these rings to see where it fails in this configuration?
I have a feeling the Winch line will break before the rings will.
Great video. I had a few questions early in the video but they all got answered before the end of the video. I’m new to Jeeps and winches and will plan to get one of these. Thanks for the video
That was very cool Casey. Thanks!
For those playing at home, beware of the Anchor Points, especially the ratings of Soft Shackles - they have a rating, but no error margin like the D and Bow Shackles have..
You can Halve the load on the rope and Double the load on the Anchor points, in this case those Soft Shackles can fail and launch the Recovery Rings at people.
you took the words out of my mouth all these soft shackles are basically like cranking on a crossbow ready to explode. A chain cannot be beat with metal shackles. synthetic rope stretches end of story. watching him crank down on that set up is frightening to say the least.
That was really cool and informative. Thanks Casey and Alan.
Yes indeed. Casey and Allen are solid. This video just locked me in as an unshakable fan of Casey and Allen.
Charlie Gilliland (NASCAR clan).
Pretty damn cool, good thinking there Alan. Good demonstration there Casey.
These are the kind of videos I came here for. This is GREAT. Thanks for the schooling.
I don’t know him, but I’m proud of him because he has really got going on these products. I invented a sliding fairlead so you could line pull off at an angle and not have to worry about blowing the side off the winch. Plus you could could direct the rope onto empty parts of the drum. It worked really well, simple to use, simple to make. It took two years to sell fourteen of them making it a product disaster :o) So I know how hard it is to get going in the industry ^-^
Te coating on synthetic rope is usually carbon black or a derivative (same as used in tires) to help prevent UV degradation which is really hard on wood, rubber, synthetic fibres and many other items. This also why oil stains with pigment have longer warranty than clear oil stains (which most are now made with inferior soya oil now due to low VOC laws in many states and countries but I digress) . Yes this is a good technique but personally I would not use aluminum on a regular basis because of several factors that most people would not want to hear me discuss. Also (as mentioned) a ballbearing pulley is far superior if used on a daily basis but Casey is pointing out a method perfect for weekend occasional user that takes almost no space and min weight to carry.
Hey Casey, It's pretty cool to see you so excited about this, Isn't it interesting how geometry works.
Nice job. Showing more technical multi snatch set ups. Good job. Thank you as always. Great stuff from yankum
I've always been an advocate of pulleys to double/triple pulling power. I have had a single and double-wheel pulley in my box of 'useful for the future' things for a long time. I've used them a few times for various tasks. They will only accept up to 10mm rope but has been great for moving logs by hand.
Same, I have wheel pulleys single and double. I'm curious to see a comparison with this Yankum snatch ring to wheel pulleys. The Yankum snatch ring is pretty pricey. Also the heat shown in the video means there are losses with the friction, it will be curious to see how it holds up especially durability with a friction based system.
Using those smaller snatch blocks make equipment needed on jobs easier to manage and less weight. I see Midwest Truck use their conventional snatch blocks and they look heavy as they manhandled them for jobs. Alan needs solid testimonies from people in the trenches like you.
To be fair, Ron's big blocks and BIG truck are meant for much higher loads that need stronger gear. But you're right. That stuff does have to be manhandled.
@@kensherwin4544 Of course for Casey's application the snatch block he used works just fine. I am sure that those heavy duty metal winch cables Ron uses would make mince meat of Alan's snatch blocks. You have to use the correct tool for the job. That is why the equipment Casey used and demonstrated today did the job he was trying to show and I just saw a new video of Ron's while ago. The snatch block he used was on a car carrier that could handle about 15-20 cars.
What a fantastic idea something so simple and so easy to use is just pure genius 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Yet another excellent and educational video from Casey, who takes this subject and thoroughly explains the physics and benefits of the rigging. Prior to watching Casey, Ron Pratt, Rory and Matt, I had no understanding of what they do. Very good information presentation.
Alan may be a mad genius, but Casey Ladelle isn't far behind. You are extremely knowledgeable about the science of towing and recovery and the know how of using those mathematical forces involved.
This video provides so much benefit to the people that do amateur recovery as part of our beloved recreation. Casey you are helping people stay safe and be more successful on the trail. Thank you.
I used to drive a 1992 top kick flatbed . I loved towi ng . I appreciate you and your family ❤
You did a great job explaining how this works and how to set it up.
Hey Casey... Nicely done!!
I'll bet you can't wait for the first recovery job to use that new technique!!!
And when it does happen, we'll be here watching and raising our cup o'coffee to your Secret Genius Friend, Alan!!!
Bravo to you both!!
Safe travels, friend ❤️❤️
Stay FROSTY...
Keep your powder dry and your head on a swivel...
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Recovery video coming Monday!
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😎WoooHoooo!!!
🤠Saddle Up, Cowboy!!!!
We need to see this with strain gauges! I suspect the efficiency loss through those rings is quite high 😮
Absolutely. I don't like this idea at all - especially the ring not spinning with the rope... I mean lets do with the rings spinning IDK. BIG DIFFERENCE.
With the right coating on the ring, the stiction wouldn't be that hard to overcome and as the ring is aluminum, provided you have the correct alloy, reject heat from the stiction area and rope will be sucked up by the ring pretty aggressivly. The bigger problem would be dirty rope with entrained sand/grit ripping up the running faces.
THAT WAS A VERY IMPRESSIVE DEMONSTRATION!! ALAN IS ONE SMART COOKIE!
Casey - one word - AWESOME...Yankum gets a Hands Down Hell Yes!
It would be cool to have a scale on each line to see how much weight each line is pulling.
Baring friction almost the same load.
Why not also make a double stack ring with two grooves around the larger radius? Great video and demonstration as always. Have a great weekend Casey
Will also make the centre a larger radius.
That seems a little too specialized to carry around a tool that's twice the size and weight. You need two snatch blocks/rings at a minimum to do any more than a double line pull no matter how you design them and this one can do up to a 5 part line pull. That's 60,000 lbs off a 12k winch on a 4500 lb Jeep. How much more pulling power do you need?
I don't think you would want to use it with a single line due to the offset. Line would run at an angle. Might as well have two singles. More options. Stacked, separate, etc.
Why not just two singles? Better than running it through the centre, anyway. Each single only needs to take half the load. In fact, that's the weird thing about this "invention". What do you save? A snatch block. That's all. And against that, the ring (and the soft shackles!) have to bear twice the load that each of two snatch-blocks would have to, plus you have more friction. And you can't use separate anchor points, so you lose versatility.
@@Psyco913 There are two of them. All you save is 2 snatch blocks. And you lose a whole lot of versatility. And on your 12K winch, each ring has to bear 48,000lbs. So do the soft shackles. At least with 4 blocks, they only have to bear 24,000 lbs, and each can be fastened to separate anchor points.
Alan has a very good spokes person for his products. Keep up the good work Casey.
Great video Casey...... Thank you! Alan for your genius...... Thanks for sharing
I'm really glad i took the time to watch this one, it really shows ( in detail) the put up or shut up of that product and no one can say otherwise...
i have to say i will be savin my duckies up for a couple whenever that may be..
Ty 4 makin such a great product mr. Alan🎉 & nice job showin it casey! 👍 ☕🐢
Gear demonstration and exploration/ explanation is a favorite for me. Excellent!
You're great Casey! Love your videos!
Amazing! This felt like the smarter everyday snatch blocks episode. SNATCH BLOCK!
Alan is a smart cookie. Nice demo.
Oh Casey, you are so smooth with that. Ha, ha, you're pretty good at that! Thanks for the video.
Well done Sir... Love the simple breakdown.
Brilliant Casey, thank you.
Thank you Casey. That is brilliant and It is so light and easy to set up.❤😊😊😊
Genius! Yankum gear is super impressive
Allen owes you a lot of recovery gear for this demo. Great video. Keep up the videos.
Video has great flow. I could easily follow along. All your info when added up came together great. Thanks.
I stumbled on this offset ring on Yankum's site and was intrigued by the design. This video has me completely sold. Some formal testing would be great, but this is genius.
Casey this was an excellent step by step explanation. I don’t even own a winch or an off road vehicle and found if interesting…
My neighbor is a HS history teacher who’s frustrated getting the attention of his students who prefer to bury their noses in their phones. This would get their attention as it’s both practical knowledge as well as teaching physics…
Thank you for taking time out of your day to set all of this up and for sharing it with us.
Thanks Casey! Great video
Good information. Thanks. Looking forward to watching your blog even more .
This video is amazing. The offset ring is going on my wish list.
Great video Casey! Thank you
I've been on the fence (even after watching your videos featuring them), but I'm a convert now. That's straight up next level design. I'm placing my order Wednesday
One of your best videos ever! Thanks for that!
Super kool. Thanks for sharing and the “don’t does” too.
Cool idea. I'd like to see those rings redesigned and thickened to increase that inner radius. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Casey,
Great presentation !
Thank you
This is like being a kid and watching Watch Mr. Wizard in the mid 50s-mid 60s. We got our first tv in 1952 and this old human was hooked at age 4 watching science on the itsy bitsy black and white tv in that big oak case. I love your inquisitive nature, desire to learn new things and knowing when to stop. Thank you for brightening up all our days. Peace Out.
Such infectious enthusiasm!!
Great job explaining all of that. It was very well done. I have towed and trucked many different items through the years and I had to do a lot of it without all the good stuff. Come alongs, ropes, chains , chain binders, and whatever i could find to do the job. I'm still going to get up there and stop in to see you. Thanks for the great videos.
I guess that was worth the midnight phone call, that is just plain cool and I agree that Alan is a genius. Thanks Casey, that was incredible
Pretty slick. I like those Yankum ropes. Thanks for the video