@@1951JULY Luke 16:18 KJV is not stand alone. It's not the only scripture on the subject. Luke 16:18 is not speaking of putting away a wife who already has committed adultery, but one who hasn't. Let Matthew 19:9 harmonize with Luke 16:18 KJV only
The simple truth has already been provided to us by Jesus in his word, which says, "whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery, and if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”
I completely agree! I just don’t understand why people don’t see with their own eyes what Jesus clearly said in the scriptures. Lustful hearts will only see what they want to see. Instead of getting on their knees and fiercely praying for their marriage, they lustfully divorces and seek sexual pleasure elsewhere
@@JohnDoe-ib9gf Yes you will be forgiven for adultery and/ or any sin if you repent and leave that sin. The Holy Spirit has been given to all true believers to give us the awesome power and guidance to leave that sin. However you MUST repent and leave that sin! If you marry a married woman that has an adultery and until you leave that marriage you have fully repented. Example is a gay marriage. They can pray and seek forgiveness all they want but they MUST come out of that sinful circumstance.
@@JohnDoe-ib9gfI was an alcoholic when I came to Jesus, Jesus told me to repent and turn away and forsake alcoholism, that means I quit that sin of drinking. Jesus does not tell his people they can remain living in the life of practicing sin. His people will fall in moments in sin, like pride or bitterness, but if they do find themselves in sin they will be convicted of that sin (they have a free will but obeident children of God will obey) because the holy spirit will convict them with the law he wrote on their heart and forsake that sin. I also was the one who committed adultery in my marriage, Jesus commanded me to return home to my husband and my husband told me that Jesus was commanding him to forgive me. We reconciled, God has blessed our marriage immensely regardless of my past sin of adultery that I'm forgiven of, because I forsook it. Had I remained an adulterer I would be on my way to hell because God himself told me that I was on my way to hell if I didn't repent/forsake my adultery and go home to my husband. Jesus says if a spouse separates let them remain celibate single or to reconcile with their spouse. Jesus makes it very clear those who get divorced and remarried are living in the sinful act of adultery and he is calling them to forsake that wicked lifestyle sin, to remain single or reconcile. Marriage is for life between one man and one woman both whom have never been married before one another.
@@JohnDoe-ib9gf I was an alcoholic when I came to Jesus, Jesus told me to repent and turn away and forsake alcoholism, that means I quit that sin of drinking. Jesus does not tell his people they can remain living in the life of practicing sin. His people will fall in moments in sin, like pride or bitterness, but if they do find themselves in sin they will be convicted of that sin (they have a free will but obeident children of God will obey) because the holy spirit will convict them with the law he wrote on their heart and forsake that sin. I also was the one who committed adultery in my marriage, Jesus commanded me to return home to my husband and my husband told me that Jesus was commanding him to forgive me. We reconciled, God has blessed our marriage immensely regardless of my past sin of adultery that I'm forgiven of, because I forsook it. Had I remained an adulterer I would be on my way to hell because God himself told me that I was on my way to hell if I didn't repent/forsake my adultery and go home to my husband. Jesus says if a spouse separates let them remain celibate single or to reconcile with their spouse. Jesus makes it very clear those who get divorced and remarried are living in the sinful act of adultery and he is calling them to forsake that wicked lifestyle sin, to remain single or reconcile. Marriage is for life between one man and one woman both whom have never been married before one another.
This sermon was done some years ago, never would I have thought at that time that the years later it would be for me to hear from the Lord. Sadly, my pastor does not have the courage to correct people in our congregation and in his family regarding the sins that they do. I myself corrected a brother who was told by our pastor not to worry about it; and the it was that he was living in fornication with a long time girlfriend: I could not sit there as he told me what the pastor had said to him. It burned within my soul the scriptural truth and I told him how wrong it was and gave him scripture to read. Whether he did read it and whether he will obey the scriptures is on him. I appreciate this Pastor I have been listening to and that he also has the true version of the Bible to confer with and to declare the truth of what God truly says to mankind. I myself am going through a very emotional time as a born-again Christian, as my husband left me in July of 2021, to live with a woman he has been committing adultery with. She too is an adulterer as she is going through a divorce from her second husband. In the 7 months I have been dealing with this horrible sin, I have put a call in to a lawyer for a divorce. I have sought out many scriptures in the Bible concerning marriage and divorce, there are many. But I am a truth seeker, and I have asked God to lead me to all truth so I can make the right decision and not sin against God. I do believe the Lord has used this preacher today May 20th 2022, for me to hear as I will not he told all the truth from my church. I praise God Almighty for this wonderful truth of his and for his word from his true Bible. I hope and pray that many others who are going through this sad tragic incident of divorce and broken marriages will find great consolation from the Lord God.
To add on to the comment I made about my broken marriage, I just want to add that my husband told me a couple years ago that it was late on his heart that he had "no repentance". I remember him getting angry at that conviction, but doing nothing about it. The woman he is with now knows he is married, and does not care that he is married, and she is unsaved. My so-called husband said he witnessed to her and she does not want to listen or believe. And I gave her a "tract" regarding salvation and the truth about God's law as she says she is now "into" Judaism.
For my entire life until this year, I’ve been attending a church where they don’t explain to you anything about what the Bible says & year after year you hear the same versus over & over they don’t touch anything like this, to me it’s a sound doctrine what they teach, so for that matter many of us have gone through sin and thinking that just by asking God for forgiveness we’re all good to go, as that’s how they make it seem, I’m a born again Christian and I do not repent one bit having left that church. I seek the truth of God and that’s all I need to live a godly life.
@@bornagain2890 have you heard of a preacher names Gino Jennings? He makes marriage and divorce and remarriage clearer then even this preacher. I met Gino in person and also sat under his preaching. You can look him up on you tube or go to his website under First church of our Lord Jesus Christ in Pennsylvania.
@@truthmatters4ever247 Gino calls people names and gets legalistic on topics. You don’t go around shouting you’re a hoe. That’s wrong. Also if a women is wearing a wig etc.. it’s not sin. My goodness there are women going through chemo losing their hair. It’s ok to wear a wig. Makeup is ok too. Just keep it subtle. The whole thing behind that is to not wear it to an extreme to make men look at you in lust. Be wise. I read he doesn’t believe in the trinity as well.
This is an excellent teaching. I tried several times to write to one of the commenter's below who doesn't understand what this pastor is teaching, but finally deleted my comments. Not because I don't feel they're important, but because I know that when someone wants to believe that marriage, divorce and remarriage without just cause, is okay by God, there is nothing that I could say to them that will change their minds. They would just take my words and throw them back at me saying "and who are you?" Hopefully, they will listen to this pastor.
Except for the part where he tries to make an issue out of Adam only having one wife. What about the fact that God gave David his master's wives into his bosom, or that Jehoida the priest brought two wives to King Joash?
@@danieldeluca4936 these questions get answered over and over....Acts 17.30 .King James Version And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
@@danieldeluca4936 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”
Beautiful truth being told. Jesus frees us to say the truth as it is (and forever will be).. In South Africa pastors are not talking that gospel anymore for fear of offending some people. And just to make everyone "comfortable" the guess. Thanks for this. I've shared it.
I wonder how many men in his congregation have never went out on their wife’s? I wonder how many have even thought about it. If so then they have committed this sin. Did you know that God was a divorcee. Yep, the Bible says that God is a divorcee. There is no sin unforgivable. Except Blasphemy and that can’t happen until the last days. I wonder how many of these people have read the Caucasian’s history which is the Old Testament. They even had Concubines. Have you ever read about Solomon? The Old Testament has not been done away with.
God gives only one exception- Matt. 19:9...We must take all scripture and draw our conclusion...of course God hates divorce and his purpose for marriage is one man one woman forever...only exception is fornication
Fornication is sex before marriage. It was a Jewish custom back in Jesus time that couples will betrothed for an entire year before they were to marry. This betrothal was unbreakable except for fornication being committed by the soon to be bride. That is all this means. There are no exceptions in covenant marriage even if somebody cheats on their spouse.
Thanks brother. This is enlightening. This is not another version, it is the truth. God did not intend the truth about marriage, divorce and remarriage to be a mystery, rather men have been mischievous and could never have come to the simple truth. Thanks giving expression to my heart inclination concerning this subject.
Amen Brother! Thank you for standing on the Truth of the Word of God!!!!! This is how I believe the Word. I am divorced from fornication and I can not and will not date or marry again until my x husband dies. Everyone thinks I need to date or marry again. My purity, honor for our heavenly father is more important to me. He takes care of me and my only trust in Him. Amen!
My wife left me , we were 27 , I raised our children , I filed and divorced her , she remarried , I did not , she died , I brought our children up in the church , and have 8 grand children., I've had a wonderful life growing up with my children , not an easy life but a Good one . At 60 now I would like a wife , am I ok to remarry ? I have struggled with this many years .
You are free to marry sir because the death of your ex-wife is terminated by death the only scriptural terminator of marriage. “Until death do us part”
@@TheJadefila so let me get this straight, if your wife leaves you for another man and then she divorces you because she wants to be with that man you're trying to say that you can't get remarried?
Find yourselves a pre 16th century Bible. Newer translations have all been compromised. Just by changing the meaning of words. It is my understanding the Bible can be revised legally. However there has to be a certain number of words changed to meet the criteria for revision. I myself have been able to see the truth in any version I pick up. Thank you lord! The truth is one man one woman one covenant with God. Its for life!
Actually the Old King James Bible was Translated from the Original Hebrew, Greek, and Chaldean. King James had 80 Translators working on it and Each Person of the 80 Translators had to Agree on every word Translated. Do You Realize how hard it is to get 5 people to Agree on any one thing ??? For studying I suggest a Mathew Henry Study Bible, Strongs Concordance, Wilson's for the Old Testament and a Vines for the New Testament
I been a single mother since I was 28 I am 37 and life some times are harder and I was praying to the Lord because many pastors and christian people that I reached out to me saying get married you still young but all the time that I pray God keep showing me the father of my girls with the one I do get married we still are married but he lives with another woman and I don't feel to sign the divorce because I feel fear for some reason and I truly believe that this the truth of my Lord and Savior and my faithful companion always and forever He have been taken care of us in many miracle ways
Hi I read your comment and I too walked away from my earthly husband who too was having an affair,and now still with her.I was torn apart and because we had built a large house and had three children,we came to an agreement children to stay there with him in that house which was to be the family home. As I said I was torn apart went into the worldly ways ,went to another country. And praise God in the middle of living with another man(adultery relationship),God called me by my name audibly as I entered the family room one day when I came home from work.What an experience and the next day again audibly as I was lighting the fire.I seen all my sin before me and felt God's presence in the Room. I repentance there and then accepted Christ as my saviour, lord and my Friend. I had a real Damascus experience.And like you don't feel to be in a relationship with another man.moved out of that situation with that man I was then living with. And now serving the Lord wherever he wants me to go or do. You too stay close to The Lord he will watch over you always.he is always there.Felt led by the Holy Spirit to share this with you.to encourage you. Let the Lord always lead and guide you. We can be assured all his promises are by faith in Him that Miracles do happen .We his children. Gal2.20; Ephes.2.19,20. Hope this encourages you
But you can remarry because Jesus did say except for fornication. He committed adultery so that gives you ground for divorce. So anyone who marries you next wont be committing adultery with you. You can remarry. Read Deuteronomy 24
Great Preaching always stick with the Word of God, never waver from the Truth no matter how much or who it hurts period. My Father who I love divorced my Mother after almost 30years of marriage, and remarried another woman. I pray for him all the time to be saved.
@@LuxeprivaeMedia No. Fornication only defined as sex force single before one is married. Adultery is sex while one is married with one who is not the marital partner.
@@ghinso1967 They are both covered under sexual sin, some bibles say chastity. Whatever word you wanna use if u sexing up anyone other than your spouse and they didn't agree to it it is wrong and grounds for divorce and is a violation of their marriage and rights therin and the injured party has remedy. Let's not get caught up in the word hacking. I know a guy who said he didn't cheat on his wife because he only got head from the other woman....but I say to you whoever lusts upon has already committed sin in his or her heart. There is a principal here, which is the spirit of the law. When we wrong someone we are to make them whole. We make amends. We do NOT punish the innocent spouse...
fornication noun for·ni·ca·tion | \ ˌfȯr-nə-ˈkā-shən \ Definition of fornication : consensual (see CONSENSUAL sense 2) sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other What’s the difference between adultery and fornication? In case you were wondering, the words adultery and adult are not etymologically related (in other words, adultery didn’t grow out of adult in the way that punditry grew out of pundit). Although both words come from Latin and share the same first five letters, adultery is from adulterāre (“to pollute, defile, commit adultery”), a word formed ultimately from the Latin elements ad- “to, near” and alter“other.” English adult comes from adultus, which is the past participle of the Latin word adolescere (“to grow up”). In legal use there is a difference between adultery and fornication. Adultery is only used when at least one of the parties involved (either male or female) is married, whereas fornication may be used to describe two people who are unmarried (to each other or anyone else) engaging in consensual sexual intercourse. adultery noun adul·tery | \ ə-ˈdəl-t(ə-)rē \ plural adulteries Definition of adultery : voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner adultery noun adul·tery | \ ə-ˈdəl-tə-rē\ Legal Definition of adultery : voluntary sexual activity (as sexual intercourse) between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband (Source: Webster's Dictionary)
Praise God brother for your life because no one preaches that about divorce and marriage a lot of preachers don’t imposters don’t even talk about it🙏❤️🕊🔔
@@dawnstatis1Jennings was challenged by Johnny Robertson to come and debate him but Jennings refuses ua-cam.com/video/xeOBW3yKqb4/v-deo.htmlsi=xSYi-w7jwe9YkGqQ 4:51
As another poster has stated: " It is simple. Divorce and remarriage is adultery. No adulterer will enter the Kingdom of Heaven." Which is quite true according to Bible teaching. "Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality, 10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (AMPLIFIED BIBLE)
As Such Were Some of You, But You Have Been Washed , We Have Been Sanctified , We Have All Been In Those Situations, If We Remarry, Are We to Divorce Again? Or Should We Be Faithful to My Now Wife My First Marriage Was About Lust and Comfort, Not Love, I Was Young, But My New Wife of 12 Years is a Woman of God, And I Don't Know Where I Would be Without Her.
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 I Was Baptized Years After My Divorce, And I Am Just Beginning to Come to Full Knowledge of the Truth and Certain Scripture, My First Marriage I Was Just Out of Prison and Needed a Place to Stay, I Was Not Ready, I Make No Excuses, But I Don't Believe I Did it For Love...My Wife Now I Believe I Did it for Love, But I Have Had Issues Even Still Yet...Working on Bettering Myself.
Which proves this marriage commandment applies to both the saved and unsaved, right? What about if a nonbeliever leaves a believer after the divorce, after “trying again”?
@@bailey1493 This happened to my friend although her unbelieving husband didn't try again. 1 Corinthians 7v12,13 . He couldn't stand to live with her once she got saved and issues arose so we are called to live 'in peace'. He left and got a divorce and has now re-married. All one can do is to keep praying for the unsaved, to come to repentance and God will work things out, this is how I understand it from what I have studied on the subject and in the Word.
It wasn't lawful because they were breaking the Levitical law of a man marrying his brother's wife whilst the brother was still alive. Herod and Phillip were Jews and should of known better. It had nothing to do with what Christ spoke of in the Gospels. The Bible hadn't been compiled when John confronted Herod. He was referring only to the Torah..
Not every one that saith unto me 'Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that doeth the will of my Father in heaven.' We interpret the unclear, unobscure verses in light of the CLEAR, unbscure ones. 1 Cor 7 addressed to Christians. No divorce - separation only with view to reconciliation (must forgive) , if possible. Otherwise, stay as eunuch for the kingdom! The Lord laid it on my heart just after I became a Christian that my first legitimate spouse was my biblical one - not the second who I had already divorced from before salvation. There is so much worldliness in the church allowing the laws (man's) to define what is right/wrong, justified. We as God's children obey His commandments!
James 2:10 if you broken 1 point of the law, your guilty of all. If you've ever lusted your already committed adultery. Salvation is the cross,grace plus nothing. What sin is unforgiveable other than un-forgiveable, unbelief................
Dear Pastor, I'm a divorcee, I've struggled with this issue for years. why? my former pastor gave me scripture on divorce when I went to him on the matter because I wanted to remarry, however he remarried a member of the congregation who was a divorcee to a brother whose wife was dead. This leaves me questioning what the Bible says. Thanks, it's not easy to live with my present state but I'll have to rely on God's help.
Well said n well done pastor Jim. God bless U for this message. U are completely right. A catholic priest once preached. Those who are divorced n remarried must live as brother n sister. So tht they will not live in adultery. The holy spirit will teach n help n comfort n give strength to obey.
Why would God give us the example of Hosea then? Gomer was an adulterer and yet Hosea remained faithful to her like Christ remains faithful to his people? Doesn’t forgiveness and loving one another do away with the law of Moses?
No remarriage. Only if the Wife or Husband is dead. Mark 10 : 11-12 1 Corinthians 7: 10 - 12 makes it clear in the scriptures. I can not be married again until my first wife dies / be dead.
Me and my wife was married for 12 years, she committed adultery, and left me for the same man she committed adultery with, and then years later filed for a divorce, had no choice but to Grant her a divorce can't make her stay with me, now I remarried we're both Christians now and very happy, praise the Lord.
Personally I believe the past of any believer walking in spirit is simply the past! 2 Cor 5:17.. if we are to undo our pasts what will the murderer do, how about the child molester, or the rapist... once we have come to the knowledge of The Truth, The Word, that's when it brings light into us...and that light erases our past... it's simply gone, God has forgotten it..
As a young convert raised in church but not raised in Christ and someone who was once married but now divorced. I cannot remarry according to Gods Word that's just the plain truth. No matter if God gave me 40 more years here with someone else by my side it wouldn't be worth eternity in a lake of fire. I couldn't do that to her or myself. I'd rather die a eunauch than die lost. Sure the church world is full of ppl who claim to be Christian but are in their second or more marriage. Its wrong.
He was partially right but there is NO EXCEPTION!!!! There is no divorce and remarriage unless your spouse dies death is the only thing that can free you to marry another!! The scripture he read about unless for fornication in Matthew he missed a key detail a married person cannot commit fornication a married person commits adultery so that scripture means basically if your engaged and your spouse commits fornication with another you’re free to leave
So basically really be engaged to this person and get to know them extremely well for a long time. Before you officially marry them, know this person thoroughly.
@@rooseveltdarbey9493 yes but we should also seek the kingdom of God first and all things will be added to us but that’s a great idea get to know that person very well and make sure they are what and who you want and also make sure they understand divorce isn’t an option
Not many see this. The Lord showed me too that there is NO ESCAPE clause in Marriage it is till death parts one another. In Mathew it is speaking specifically of the betrothal period before a Jewish wedding and if one or the other is found unfaithful in that betrothal period before marriage then this is the time, if unfaithfulness is found then that they then may walk away and not committ to marriage. So if we looked at today the "engagement" period if unfaithfulness is found then one may decide to release from the marital covenant.
I was married for 12 years to my first wife, she left me for another man, that she was having an affair with, 7 years later she filed for a divorce, and now I am happily married to my current wife and we are both Christians
@@marvinguigar3623 I’m sorry to hear that brethren but you and your ex wife are still living in adultery no matter if you’re Christian or not. If you are Christian that is to be Christ like! Christ has one wife the church so you must be like Christ and only take one wife unless the first spouse no longer lives you are bound to the law
its not about happiness in this world but HOLINESS. Picking up your cross and following Jesus, Many do not want to count the cost. Who matters most - Jesus - or self! God's divine law..... from the BEGINNNING. Many don't want to accept it because their fleshly desires take precedence over the teaching of Jesus. . It's so true - many do not believe the truth of God's word. Divorce says I hate you, I don't want to live with you etc. Matthew 18 speaks about forgiveness. We need to follow God's heart loving our spouses, forgiving, having mercy, striving for reconciliation and restoration of one-flesh marriages
@Eddie1952 What if the marriage vows were insincere by both parties? What if before the “marriage” the man was gone all the time during the nights and seemed to be cheating? What if after legally married, the woman found a message from another woman and was kicked out because of saying something and asking for answers? What if 8 years later, she is saved, but he isn’t…. she tries again out of obligation to their son, tells the man he needs to repent, so he puts her out again. Also, during the “marriage” she was kicked out multiple times and officers were involved numerous times and told her to not come back.
@@bailey1493 So sorry to hear this. Marriage is a very serious matter as God loves the church, the Bride of Christ. We are told in the Word about the seriousness of making vows to God and not breaking them. So we need to be very careful who choose to marry. If an unbeliever, we do not have God's wisdom in the matter and go our own way, often to our detriment as many would testify. Once we come to Jesus we know what the Word says and in the situation you mention, we can pray the unsaved spouse will get saved even though we may have even divorced them (nothing is impossible with God as many can vouch for. But 1 Corinthians 7 clearly says, v10,11 if the spouse does depart, do not divorce but remain single . If the husband wants a divorce there's nothing one can do to stop him. v12 tells us about the saved spouse whose spouse decides/wishes to leave. One cannot stop them either and if they decide to divorce or go off, let them. We are called to 'peace'. One day, he/she may just come to repentance, salvation and in some circumstances have the legitimate first marriage restored. If this is you or someone else you know, sounds like you tried your utmost despite all the problems and treatment. God gives us the grace needed for whatever situation we are in as I can so very much testify, being divorced from my second husband for nearly 32 years now! This is what I believe from my understanding/study of the scripture and there is so much to understand on this hot topic of marriage/divorce etc.
Salvation is a still a mystery. How many times you physically or how many wives you physically does not matter. What matters most is the spiritual marriage. God should be the centre of your love and adoration. Not his wife or wives. Jacob had two wifes and two more concubines. The 12 sons all came from 4 different women. And yet God pronounce Jacob as a of Godly heart. The truth about marriage is that there's no marriage in heaven. What matters is that all believers must marry in the spirit and not only in a physical sense. God is still a mystery and his salvation plan is also a mystery. Look at the thief on the cross, the life of Issac and Jacob. There's an underlying truth here. Yes what truth is revealed to us is for ouyr edification but those that is not revealed belongs to the of Mystery. Jacob married 4 wives .Define wifes and one night stands. Jacob never had prostitutes but legitimate wifes and Jacob is still counted righteous...what do say...marriage in the spirit is what matters most.
(1) By understanding this issue from a chronological perspective we can determine that it was many years after Christ teaching on this matter that the Apostle Paul (while addressing questions submitted to him by the church of Corinth / 1 Cor. 7:1) restricted remarriage for the first time and only under one of the circumstances he enumerates (v. 11). This is the only remarriage restriction following divorce and it proves that prohibiting remarriage is unique in God’s Word. That’s why it’s important to understand biblical facts chronologically (and NOT randomly). That way biblical precedents reveals that keeping people out of marriage was NOT God’s will either. Marriage is the right place for sexual expression and Paul reveals that those formerly married should remarry instead of burn with passion (1 Cor. 7:8, 9). (2) Some Pastors have put the “horse before the cart” (so to speak) chronologically by reading Paul’s prohibition as if Jesus had already prohibited remarriage. Thus they are theorizing that “remarriage was prohibited” by Jesus when in fact it was not. Believing that rearranges the chronology about when and to what extent remarriage was actually prohibited in God’s Word. It subverts a persons perspective by exchanging the uniqueness of prohibiting remarriage with that of a uniform prohibition. In the New Testament we don’t actually have one exception for remarriage (as some suggest), we only have one exception for prohibiting remarriage. (3) While the Church should be fully involved in preserving marriages, we should be very careful about coercing those divorced into a life of perpetual singleness. Formerly married Christians have their sexual struggles and 1 Cor 7:8,9 gives them instruction as to what to do. It is best to read those verses in light of the first 7 verses that precede it. (4) It is worth noting that when Jesus’ teaching is paralleled with the writings of Moses neither men criticize remarriage or blame the innocent party of divorce for the adultery it causes them to commit. Jesus actually revealed that men who insisted on the right to put away their wives were culpable (Matthew 5:32 "causeth her to commit adultery"). The woman divorced in this case scenario was allowed to remarry and was NOT blamed for the ensuing adultery. Jesus uniquely revealed that this adultery was distinct from that of the law and that culpability did NOT reside with her (the one repudiated). (5) In the Patriarchal society of Israel a man was not allowed to remarry his ex-wife if in the intervening time she remarried. That’s because he caused her to be defiled by releasing her with the right of remarriage (Deut. 24:2,4). The defilement that ensued (like the adultery of Jesus’ teaching) was the inadvertent consequence of violating an exclusive obligation established by the first marriage as God designed from the origin. This way of committing adultery was uniquely different from that which was punished. (6) While most of Jesus' teaching centers around the fact that men in Israel's Patriarchal society controlled divorce, it is worth noting that He did give a case scenario in the event the wife does the divorcing (Mark 10:12). This scenario helps men repudiated by their wives (particularly in today's culture) understand that they are not always at fault for the divorce or culpable for violating sexual exclusivity when remarried. It is also note worthy that the Apostle Paul gives a New Testament circumstance where the believer is emancipated of all marital obligation. Thus there is NO residual obligations to violate. (7) In 1 Cor.7:12-15 the Apostle Paul emancipates New Testament believers who are repudiated by unbelievers. This absolves believers from further obligations to the marriage. Christians experience absolution if they are repudiated by an unbeliever. This exemption did not previously exist under the Old Testament, thus causing one to commit adultery by violating an exclusive obligation intrinsic to marriage. (8) Because my motive for defending marriage after divorce is often misunderstood, I’d like to affirm that believers should strive to honor first marriages. Love your spouse in difficult times and don’t let your own weaknesses be the reason your marriage fails. God did create marriage for life, so do all within your power to make that happen. (9) In summary of Jesus' teaching on divorce, the question the Pharisees ask Jesus (Matt. 19:3) trivialized marriage and perceived divorce as inconsequential. Therefore Jesus revealed the consequence caused by the first marriage ending prematurely. If they had remained married this way of committing adultery would not occur (which was the point Jesus was making). Divorce causes the paradox Christians grapple with because it is antithetical to God’s creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6, 8b). From the concession of divorce onward the second marriage (which was graciously allowed under the law) inadvertently violated an exclusive obligation set forth by the former. Thus causing the adultery the way Jesus described. An inadvertent adultery caused by the first marriage not being sustained. (10) It's necessary to understand Jesus and Moses in an agreeable fashion so that Christians don't make their teaching on this issue contradict. When we see the big picture of interpreting them in harmony we understand that divorce and remarriage in God's Word are real and effective events that changed marital status and obligations from the former spouse to the present. Pastors who teach that those remarried should divorce their present spouse has come to that conclusion by believing the "indissoluble marriage" theory, thus imagining that the first marriage survived divorce. That’s NOT what Jesus taught!! Divorcing your current spouse causes sin, NOT repentance. You MUST believe what Jesus actually said within it's original CONTEXT so that you can rightly divide the Word of Truth. Blessing
There seems to be an error in the interpretation "exception clause" as preached in this message. Here is the best and accurate message on Divorce and Re-marriage - Listen Fully and be guided by it : ua-cam.com/video/Z5LyQ8GPDbg/v-deo.html
@@nealdoster8556 There seems to be an error in the interpretation "exception clause" as preached in this message. Here is the best and accurate message on Divorce and Re-marriage - Listen Fully and be guided by it : ua-cam.com/video/Z5LyQ8GPDbg/v-deo.html
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At around the 17-18 minute mark, he gets it wrong when he says there is one out- one exception for remarriage. Except for fornication is only for those who have an engagement to be married and the person cheats on you. Once a marriage is made with public vows, it is permanent until death. Divorce + remarriage + living spouse = ongoing adultery.
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Hey brother. I have done so many videos on divorce and remarriage adultery, but I was thinking about doing another one just talking about all these false teachers, when you sent me a comment. Maybe it is God's will.
@@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways Go for it Sister. There's plenty of false teachers out there on this issue and not many people are aware. Its a shame really. Some guys like this BJ fellow get it ALMOST right, but then throw one false thing in at the end. John Piper and Voidie Baughman come to mind. They agree remarriage is adultery, but tell people to stay in the 2nd marriage anyway 🤦♂️.. Be blessed Sister, always praying for you. Us standers gotta stick together 🙏💙
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Amen. Thank you, and hopefully Jesus is about to come rapture us up to heaven for our perseverance- Revelation 3:10-11. God bless.
There seems to be an error in the interpretation "exception clause" as preached in this message. Here is the best and accurate message on Divorce and Re-marriage - Listen Fully and be guided by it : ua-cam.com/video/Z5LyQ8GPDbg/v-deo.html
Remarriage IS adultery when one’s spouse is still living. Luke 16:18 Mark 10:11-12 Romans 7:3 1 Cor. 6:9-10 The exception clause in Matt. 19:9 is regarding divorce only, NOT remarriage. The pharisees question was regarding divorce, not remarriage. Further, Jesus was answering their question in response to Moses’s law, not God’s law. Moses made the law because of hard hearts. God never approved that, and it was not so from the beginning. Mark and Luke specifically state remarriage is adultery. The apostle Paul confirms this in. 1 Corinthians 7:10-11. Remarriage is the opposite of what God wanted in the case of the Israelites and Hosea and Gomer. The church teaches that remarriage is justified after infidelity but that is not so. Remarriage is pursued in order to appease one’s own desires. Itching ears twist the scripture (Matt. 19:9) in order to serve self. Paul was not speaking for himself when he stated that one is bound until death 1 Cor. 7:39. Reconciliation is what God desires. That is what true forgiveness is.
I am 64 years old, never lived with anyone, because I believe in God and in marriage. Plann on not married until Jesus brings that special someone. 🙏 I do not believe that Jesus would judge you to remarriage if your widowed.
Well spoken and agree. The Mathew exception many misunderstand and confuse fornication with adultery when they are not the same. Fornication here is for sexual sins while in the Jewish marriage betrothal period before the marriage day which equates to non Jewish engagement period for us. The Jews had the betrothal as a temporary legal marriage state before the wedding day and so any sexual sins in that period is called fornication (pornea) while once married is now called adultery (molchai). Compare the Greek Septuagint to prove this as true - see Hosea 4:14: "And I will not visit upon your daughters when they shall commit fornication (πορνεύσωσι - pornea), nor your daughters-in-law when they shall commit adultery (μοιχεύσωσιν - molchai)".
I been looking for his help clinic for those that follow his advice and scriptural understandings. So far nothing. To preach splitting families apart then just walking away is only half of the job. So get busy preacher and start helping those you advise. I know your just telling them what the bible say it's not really you. Never have I seen one of these preachers give a help line for those that follow their teachings. Here is the end result of this sermon, more broken families, newly divorced trying to break up their first spouses family, more blended homes (the children have to go somewhere ) right, possibly putting an abusive spouse back in a home, by the way where do the children go? Please preach a sermon on what would be the most correct way to handle that and take all possible scenarios into account (I'm sure you can find a bible verse for that). Does this sound harsh or just truthful. Remember his words I know this is hard. Really do you?
@@philipbuckley759 I would tell them to seek qualified Christian counseling. If there are any further questions or comments or whatever it is you are doing, go to standing strong for marriages and read Neal Doster's replies to Isaac. I agree with Neal and he is much better at explaining than me and I have great respect for both of them. I know Neal has replied to your comments apparently to no avail and it is not my position to prove anyone wrong, rather show biblical facts and let the reader decide. Phillip I would recommend you seek counseling for whatever problems you are facing and learn to speak in complete sentences. Thank you for your reply and I'm not going to answer a question that you already know the answer to. Hence homosexuality is two people of the same sex and heterosexual is a man and a woman. See the difference? I hope this clears this dilemma up for you as I've seen you ask this question repeatedly. Biblically God defines a marriage as a man and a woman which would be heterosexual. I'm glad again to help you with this and yet do not understand why you would compare the two totally different relationships that the bible speaks of in totally different ways. Blessings phillip
Lose your soul because of remarriage?? The teaching was kinda good until that false statement. Why must Christians be so unbalanced! You don't go to hell for remarriage. Your bordering on cult like teaching
I agree with the preacher on everything never knew about Ezra 10, I know so many ppl who are living with the poor choice that they made, Ezra says they divorced the women and sent them and the children away
The phrase'except fornication or adultery" means that woman or man who has been cheated on by his or her marriage partner has the license to divorce and start a new relationship.
Matthew 19:9 this commandment excludes those who have been cheated on by their partners.The person who is been cheated on is free to divorce his adulterous husband and remarry like the one whose spouse is dead.Also read 1Corinthians 7:15.
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I agree with much of what he said but the sermon lacks three key things, love, mercy, forgiveness. Don't want to hear a sermon without it. Without giving hope to the sinner these sermons do nothing but give medicine to the unsick.
I have a question, you get married before you become a believer of The Word. You divorce and later you re marry. In your second marriage you believe and confess The Lordship of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 5:17 says old things are gone.. what's the way forward here, because in the first marriage you never even believed in The Word..
My first question to you would be do you really want to follow God's Word or do you want to be accepted by others, especially other "Christians"? I seriously and not facetiously ask this question because sometimes the truth is difficult.
Jesus stated it is adultery to look at someone with lust. Jesus never stated the marital status of the person looking with lust. So even single people could be committing this form of adultery. Not the traditional thought of adultery but adultery none the less according to Jesus. So could we then securely say that adultery is any deviation of one man one woman for life? To anyone throwing stones refer to the above and see if you have met the criteria of adulterer. Did the stone suddenly get heavier? Now the term one flesh many assume it is upon consumation. How about if you are not married? Have you become one flesh, just committed adultery, fornicate, or possibly all of the above. How does a couple become one flesh? You make vows and suddenly you are one flesh? One flesh would certainly make it impossible to separate or could one flesh mean when the couple have children? Biology would certainly bear out the latter. Would it not be very possible an unmarried couple that has children are one flesh? If one were to state that all sexual contact constitutes one flesh would they not be then married to their first mate? What if they had more than one partner would they be polygamous and most certainly adulterous? No one says anything about never officially married that may fall into one of the one flesh categories and decides to get married. Must be okay to be an adulterer, fornicators, polygamous just so you didn't make it official. Now comes a person from a failed marriage and any chance of having another relationship is adultery and perpetual. They can't repent and move forward after their sins have been forgiven and must wait till their eggs are unscrambled. Interesting. Now a divorced person gets married again and is informed they are in a adulterous marriage. They choose to listen to possibly previous adulterers and get divorced again. Wait a minute some of them are possibly one flesh married and then got married making them adulterous polygamous and in judgement of someone who officially divorced. Interesting how complicated it gets when you can't repent and move on.
AJ Louviere fornication is an English word. If we’re going to split hairs we’re going to use the original language. So not fornication, but harlotry is the best translation is the word according to my concordance and is accurate to the Koine Greek, and Aramaic. You may not like it, but that’s the word. And yes if she is to be properly divorced it must be for sexual immorality, or harlotry, not adultery. Because if he’d inadvertently married a close kin, it might be incest for them to remain together, another way to say sexually immoral. Neither one is at fault necessarily, but it’s still sexually immoral. Thus requiring divorce. This occurred more often in the ancient world. Additionally if she was a harlot, he could put her away. My mother is a good example she’s been married 4 times, and slept around on every single one of them. 1 killed himself, 1 died, two she divorced. She could be considered a harlot. So yes she might be guilty of porniea, and she might not have willfully done anything wrong, if the husband made an accusation of incest. Both can be true at the same time. Just as it’s true that even in your limited reasoning a woman can be defiled by her father raping her, or a man in my case. She is therefore no longer a virgin. She has done nothing committed no crime, yet a man can still consider her defiled. Further let’s say a man avoids marriage with such a woman who’s committed no crime against him or her agreement to marry him, how is the adulterer any less defiled by having willful sex with someone they aren’t married to? You never answer that question. You’ll talk about how the woman who remarried is defiled, but not the defilement of the unrepentant adulterer. Why are you afraid to answer my questions? I suppose they are too difficult.
@@johnborland7865 the inability to provide a simple yes or no to this question reveals what is actually going on when it comes to the supposed remarriage after a divorce for the cause of adultery. I didn't ask you to do anything except answer this one question. Can you provide an answer to this question?
I love how people look at this and think if they follow this rule they can earn their way into heaven. What then was the point of the cross? Why did Jesus die, if anybody could earn their salvation this way?
justkeep'n itreal To be fair Jesus himself taught it’s better not to marry. “Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. But even Moses showed in the burning bush passage that the dead are raised, when he called the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.”” Luke 20:34-38 NKJV www.bible.com/bible/114/luk.20.34-38.nkjv
@@johnborland7865 Jesus is speaking in that text about Heaven not here on earth. Marriage is to avoid fornication. Not everyone has the gift to be a eunuch of the Mind. If you look upon a woman an lust after her you have committed adultery already. So it's better to marry than to burn in lust. God gives mercy when a person is in need. Read Matthew chp12. It's a sin to remarry but if that person can't contain and remarry to avoid the sin of fornication; remember marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled, God can give mercy and count the person guiltless 1cor 7:27-28
justkeep'n itreal lol no dude you’re good. I’m just pointing out these same people condemning remarriage, also condemn me for pointing this out. As if this part of Jesus teaching doesn’t apply or exist. Oh Jesus didn’t mean that! Really now who’s playing justification.
@@johnborland7865 yeah their conscience is seared. You ask them how to receive forgiveness for the sin of remarriage they say divorce. There is No scriptures stating nor suggesting divorce for the sin of remarriage.
Jesus not only told us to not divorce. He referred not to the law of Moses. He referred to the original intention from Genesis two. He also told us what to do should a divorce take place. It is repeated in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11
The divorce and remarriage for adultery doctrine is based solely on the supposed guilt of the wife in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. However, the wife, in the above scriptures, is clearly not guilty of fornication because the Jews (that Jesus was speaking to) were still living under the law, and if fornication was discovered, there was a moral obligation to report the offender according to Deuteronomy 22:13-24. The wife, who would have been found guilty of fornication, was subsequently stoned to death, according to the law, which had still governed the Jews up until Christ's death on the cross. The same for a woman caught in adultery, according to Leviticus 20:10. How could a wife, guilty of fornication, or adultery, under the law of Moses, be given a writing of divorcement and be caused to commit adultery with whosoever marries her, that is divorced? Jesus is clear, in these examples, that the wife is not guilty of fornication, but is still caused to commit adultery if she marries another man now that she is divorced. This is the only way that Matthew 5:31-32, and Matthew 19:9 keep harmony with Romans 7:2-3, and 1 Corinthians 7:39. Unlike the synoptic gospels of Mark and Luke, which were written to evangelize the Gentiles, Matthew was written to the Jews, and has of 24 characteristics that identify it as intended for the house of Israel. The ancient Jews called the betrothed (engaged) "husband" and "wife" according to Deuteronomy 22:23-24, Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage) was never for fornication or adultery. Allowing those guilty of fornication and adultery to remain living and become a prospect for remarriage was against the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22:13-24 and Leviticus 20:10, which commanded that those who were found guilty of fornication and adultery be put away from Israel, and stoned to death. The law of Moses was not given to the world, only to the Jews. From the exodus, to Christ's death on the cross, the law of Moses governed the Jewish people. Christ's death on the cross caused the Jews to become dead to the law of Moses, so they could be joined to Christ under a New Covenant. This is what Jesus's fulfillment of the law of Moses, including Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage), means. Paul gave several warnings to Christian believers against keeping the ordinances of law of Moses as justification, over following Christ and his commands under the New Covenant with Christ. Keeping the ordinances of the law is no longer possible, for Israel, and that is why Christ prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. These scriptures make it clear that if you choose the law over Christ, that you must keep the whole law: Romans 7:4, Galatians 3:1-9, Galatians 3:10-29, Galatians 4:1-7, Galatians 4:21-31, and Galatians 5:1-15. Being unequally yoked to unbelievers is not a cause for divorce, once two become one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, according to 1 Corinthians 7:12-14. Many one-flesh covenant marriages between unbelievers are recognized by God in the scriptures, most notably the marriage covenants between Herodias and King Herod's brother Philip, Potiphar and his wife, Ahab and Jezebel, and Ruth to her deceased husband Mahlon by Boaz when he took her to be his wife. Some are teaching that 1 Corinthians 7:15 implies that those who are abandoned, by an unbelieving spouse, are "no longer bound" in a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The reason this is in conflict is due to the way some translations word it, which gives it an entirely different meaning, and context. 1 Corinthians 7:15, says, "But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace." As you can see, the actual scripture says "not enslaved" which means that the husband or wife is not enslaved to sin with the unbelieving spouse, and is free to worship Christ in peace. Subsequent translations have changed the words to imply that they nullify the marriage covenant, which is not at all the case. The issue that this creates is with 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, which says, "10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife." As you can see, those who claim 1 Corinthians 7:15 shows the Apostle Paul giving those who are abandoned permission to remarry, do not understand the command that Christ gives is to an abandoned husband, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, and that he "must not divorce" his wife, and his wife is commanded to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" to her husband. The theory that 1 Corinthians 7:15 nullifies two as being one-flesh, due to one's unbelief, puts the Apostle Paul directly at odds with Christ, and himself, by implying that Paul has issued an opposing command to verses 10-14 in verse 15. Some also teach that 1 Corinthians 7:27-28 is referring to both divorced men and virgin women, and not exclusively to men and women (virgins) who have never been married. This has been falsely taught for some time in churches as referring to anyone who is not currently in a marriage, which, for them, also includes those who are divorced. This is a very false assumption, and puts these verses in a different context, that is at odds with both the teachings of Christ and the apostle Paul. We see Paul refer to virgins, which signifies the unmarried who have never before been wed, which is the proper context here. We see Paul saying clearly that it is good for virgins, which is also speaking to never before wed men here, "that it is good for a man so to be." He goes on to say, "Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife." Who is he referring to here? Men who, like himself, have never married. The word "bound", in these verses, is a clear reference to betrothal (engagement) and not to a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The ancient Jews were considered bound as husband and wife during the betrothal (espousal/engagement) before becoming one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, through consummation. This is affirmed by the context of the term "bound" seen in Numbers 30:14-16. The Jewish couples in ancient Israel, who were betrothed (engaged) were also bound together until death, either by execution for fornication, or by other causes. Then Paul says, "But and if thou marry, thou has not sinned", which is who? The men who had never married in the congregation at Corinth. So he begins with verses 25-26 speaking exclusively to men that have never married. Paul then says, "and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned", which is speaking directly in regard to virgin women who have never been married, within the congregation, not divorced women. Notice that verse 34 says, "There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband." Paul speaks plainly when he says "there is a difference between a wife and a virgin." Paul goes on to say, "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry." This is speaking of a virgin who has become of age to bear children when it says, "let them marry." This is a clear command, to a single man, who has taken a virgin to be his wife. Paul then says, "Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well." This is referring again to the single man who decides it is better not to marry, but to stay betrothed (engaged), under the present distress, by saying that he "hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin." Paul then says, "So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better", which again means single men, in the congregation, who have betrothed a wife, do well if they marry, and those who choose not to marry their virgin brides do better, under the current climate. For more proper context of the word "bound", let's look further down in this chapter to verse 39, which says, "39The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord" (1 Corinthians 7:39). For so long, these scriptures, between verses 25-38, have been twisted and used to enable divorce and remarriage, by wayward churches and teachers, and have caused many to stumble and to be trapped in unscriptural unions. The use of the woman at the well, in regard to marriage, falsely implies that Christ was endorsing remarriage after a divorce. This teaching is in defiance of Matthew 22:23-28, which shows a woman who had been widowed seven times, and entered into each subsequent marriage without any scriptural conflicts with God's law of marriage (one-flesh covenant) seen in Genesis 2:23-24. Mark 10:1-12 and Matthew 19:1-12 both record Christ's teaching that day beyond the Jordan. There is no mention of the words "fornication", "writing of divorcement", or "divorced" in Mark's Gospel because Mark was not written to the Jews (as Matthew's Gospel was), but to evangelize the Romans, and likewise Luke to evangelize the Greeks, who had no knowledge of the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22 or Deuteronomy 24. All of these facts draw a clear understanding that remarriage after a divorce, under the New Covenant with Christ, is a scripturally false and baseless teaching. Please use wisdom when living in any situation against what the scriptures command.
You could do the same thing with "Matthew 5:27-30 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell. " If this is permanently unforgivable sin as well, then literally nobody is going to heaven. Maybe he's trying to get a point across rather than condemning us with law. He came to forgive not to condemn. If it isn't possible for someone to have a fresh start after a difficult past, what was the point of Christ's sacrifice? I really think this sort of teaching tragically misses the point and may create more suffering in a world that is already suffering too much.
@@Calcium-mn9eq You don't know my story. My wife cheated on me 3 years ago. I was an asterisk Christian at best back then. I did find Matthew 19:9 and was like: okay, I am good to remarry. Fast forward to now, I find there is great division on the translation and interpretation of this exception clause. I definitely get the point that just divorcing someone because you're sick of them is compared to adultery cause it's just cause of lust or whatever. But I'm dealing solely with the exception and even there, there's great division on this. It's very difficult to truly find peace about it.
@@derekgeorgeandrews I am so sorry about what you've been through. In truth, the exception to divorce is sexual unfaithfulness; nevertheless, to remarry is adultery. What Jesus said according to the four gospels is made even clearer by Paul in 1Corinth 7:10-11 (...must remain unmarried or be reconciled to your original spouse). Some things happen in our lives that put us in a disadvantaged or seemingly disadvantaged position; it could be our own mistake or the mistake of another person. But we must deny ourselves and suffer for the sake of Christ and the kingdom of God. If I may ... have you tried to reconcile with your wife? Is she deeply sorry for her wrongdoing and willing to do right by you henceforth? I really understand you, and I pray with all the love in me that God will grant you the grace to accept His word and the peace that you need. I love you, Derek, and God loves you. I pray you know this. Be blessed.
Christendom is a total wreck especially where marriage is concerned. Let's say a secular or nominally christian person gets badly hurt by their first spouse and divorces. Then they turn their heart to Christ earnestly and fervently for the rest of their lives. They meet someone and wish to remarry, raise kids in the church and help pick up the pieces of our shattered culture. But there are some who would say: "Too bad, you have to be celibate forever." Is that a message of grace, renewal and healing, or a message of condemnation?
The Pharisees posed a legal question to Jesus (Matthew 19:3. Mark 10:2). Instead of getting caught up in the legal argument of that time, Jesus circumvented that argument by appealing to how it was suppose to be. He appealed to God’s creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6, 8b). Ideally and by God’s design marriage was to be lifelong, realistically (because of hard hearts) it was allowed to prematurely end. Accepting the tension that creates is part of understanding this issue. Jesus words were applicable to whom He was speaking. He was speaking to His covenant people Israel. When contextually understood He was conveying to them the inadvertent consequence of the divorce concession. This He did to dissuade them from putting away their wives. When Jesus speaks to divorce and remarriage He is speaking of them as effective events (as all biblical writers do). The answer Jesus gave to the Pharisees question (Matthew 19:3, Mark 10:2) was derived from God’s original creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6,8b), not the law of Moses. We should understand Moses and Jesus congruous, not as one opposed to the other. Jesus’ teaching on this issue is pointing out to His covenant people that allowing divorce was not without it’s casualty. Allowing marriages to end violates (in principle) God’s lifelong creative design. Moses allowed divorce primarily because of women caught up in domestic conflict, it was a mercy for them. Subsequently he didn’t force them into a life of singleness because they were put away, he allowed them to remarry. Having a husband allowed them to have the provisions they would need, so remarriage was a gracious concession also (Deut. 24:4). It’s imperative we understand that Jesus is not speaking negatively against divorce as a concession, but rather negatively about the reason divorce needed to be conceded. The concession itself was not a mistake on Moses part as some suggest. Jesus was not criticizing Moses, He was being critical of that which prompted the need for the concession. Jesus blatantly reveal to the Pharisees that the reason for the concession was an accommodation of Israel’s hard heart (Matthew 19:8). Hard hearts ultimately were the cause of marriages being terminated which in turn caused the exclusivity of the one-flesh union to be transgressed. This causes the adultery the way Jesus described. Always read God’s Word with the understanding that Moses didn’t contradict Jesus or Jesus didn’t contradict Paul. Read God’s Word with a congruous understanding of all who spoke to this issue. Both Jesus and Paul gave extenuating circumstances when they spoke to this issue. Jesus as He addressed His covenant people Israel told them “except for fornication” (Matthew 19:9) which is a comprehensive word for illicit sex. Paul speaking to the Church stated that a believer is not under bondage if the unbelieving spouse repudiates the marriage (1 Cor. 7:15). Paul addressed different circumstances throughout chapter 7. He didn’t give a one size fits all conclusion for every situation. Verses 10 and 11 address a believer married to a believer. Paul then has a change of address in verse 12 (something others conveniently leave out). There he speaks to a situation were a believer is or was married to an unbeliever. If an unbeliever repudiates the marriage, the believer is no longer under bondage. “no longer under bondage” is an explicit phrase the speaks of emancipation. They are free from former obligations. Don’t let anyone convince you that Paul gave a “one size fits all” conclusion in verses 10 and 11 when in fact he spoke to different situations.
@@fionamelissa2002 Grace to you Fiona I prefer not to give out my personal info on the internet. Do you have a question about divorce and remarriage? You can be hypothetical if you like. Blessings
@@nealdoster8556 Blessings Neal Reading John 5 46-47 affirms we should read scriptures in a congruous manner as you have stated many times. Those promoting DTR are actually making up their own laws rather than drawing from scripture. How many time have we heard Jesus over rode Moses in the New Testament. God is holy and immutable.
There are no legitimate reasons for divorce and remarriage. It is important to know the context of a Jewish marriage as you study. (Matthew 1:18-25) Remember Mary was espoused to Joseph and the engagement was so binding as to call her his wife. They had not taken their vows yet which is when the marriage is official. Joseph was going to put her away for what looked like fornication but was told to take her as his wife. Matthew 19:9 Jesus says except for the cause of fornication can a man put away his wife. Notice in the verse the words fornication and adultery. They are not the same thing. The word for fornication is porneia which means harlotry. This is sex outside of marriage. The word for adultery is moichao which is to commit adultery. For the cause of adultery you cannot put away your wife, but only for the cause of fornication in the engagement period. Many would ask well if I got married before I became a Christian does God honor that as a marriage? Yes. The Bible speaks in 1 Corinthians 7 about staying with the unbelieving spouse and if the unbelieving spouse wants to depart, then let them depart. 1 Corinthians 7:39 says the wife is bound by the law as long as her spouse is alive. Marriage is honorable even among the heathen. Hebrews 13:4 says marriage is honourable in all. If you took vows to marry someone being unsaved or saved then you are married to that person until death do you part. If you remarry and are not a widow then you are in adultery. 1 Corinthians 6:9 says that no adulterer will inherit eternal life. I used to have some wrong views about this topic but thanks be to God for leading me in the light of His Word. This teaching of divorce and remarriage is encouraging disobedience to God's Word and many will go to hell as adulterers. My sincere desire is for people to know God, walk in obedience to His Word, and make it to heaven.
Lorenzo Adamson moichao is the word for adultery. It is different than porneia which means harlotry. The Bible is very specific on the words used as It is all inspired. There is no broadness when not one jot or tittle will fail from the Word. When I think about broad I think about wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction.
Shane Jensen when I look up the definition of fornication it leads to the Greek word porneia which covers a wide range of sexual immorality acts including adultery so that's what I believe ...I dont know where your definitions come from but I have read multiple definitions
Lorenzo Adamson the definitions come from the Strong's Concordance. Did you look up the word used for adultery in Matthew 5:32, in the Strong's Concordance? Moichao=adultery
All Truths are parallel and sometimes truth hurts but it’s for our corrections etc Isn’t God good and full of Grace? Of course He is. Praise nd Glory be to His Name alone.
This guy drops the ball on the exception clause. Fornication in Mathew 5:32/19:9 is referring to the betrothal period. And a couple in a covenant marriage DO NOT commit Fornication when they cheat or remarry. They commit Adultery. 2 separate words with different meanings. That is why no exception is found in Luke 16:18, Mark 10:11-12, 1 Cor. 7, Romans 7:1-3
Awakened Won Amen... People refuse to study the word of God and they make elementary school children errors because those words are two different words
Prince Darius and company- You both are wrong. Porneia is the greek word for fornication = sexual inmorality in general. That include incest, bestiality, homosexuality and adultery. This crimes were punished by death by the Mosaic law. Same for the betrothal period. The jewish custome for marriage was like this: betrothal period (as a civil marriage) was a legally bonding law and the two were considered married except they didnt have sex until one year later when the second part of the ceremony was celebrate. 1) Was Jesus speaking of the betrothal period ONLY? As Matthew was written mostly for Jews? 2) Was Jesus talking about sexual inmorality in general? Including adultery, incest, bestuality and homosexuality as well? Those are the 2 views discussed on this topic. Do your homework!
@@raquelgutierrez1030 Well said! These people have to consider the ramifications of what they are saying. If what they are claiming were true, then a man who breaks off his engagement to his betrothed, when she has not committed porneia, somehow caused her to commit adultery, which is ludicrous!
THIS MAN I CALLED BY GOD.HE IS TEACHIMG SCRIPTURE & IS NOT ADDING TO IT OR TAKING AWAY FROM IT. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A PREACHER TO TEACH SCRIPTURE VERBATIM FROM THE BIBLE!
Scripture clearly teaches anyone who divorces and remarries while their covenant spouse is still living (with the exception of fornication) is an adulterer or adulteress (Matthew 5:31-32; Matthew 19:3-9; Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18; Romans 7:2-3; 1 Corinthians 7:10-15; 1 Corinthians 7:39). Additionally, scripture clearly teaches in order to receive God's mercy one must repent or they won't inherit the kingdom of Heaven (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Luke 13:3). God saves anyone who genuinely repents. Repentance has two elements: Confessing AND forsaking our sins. Proverbs 28:13, says: "He who covers his sins will not prosper, but whoever confesses AND forsakes them will have mercy." Remaining in an adulterous remarriage is not repentance. The liar has to repent and stop lying; the thief has to repent and stop stealing; the homosexuals have to repent and stop committing homosexual acts; and the adulterers and adulteresses (including those in adulterous remarriages) must repent and stop committing adultery. Sharing the scriptural truth about divorce and remarriage infuriates people who are supposed to be followers of Christ. Jesus's words regarding this issue anger his alleged followers like no other topic. Perhaps, it's time to obey Jesus Christ, and to begin believing He means what He says. Most importantly, ALL sins are unforgivable without repentance...including remaining in adulterous remarriages. According to the clear, easy to understand words of scripture: Jesus most definitely sends unrepentant adulterers and adulteresses to hell.
Im sure all the ppl in this thread claiming they have a "covenant" went to their state official and got a marriage governed my state law and not imagination. Please stop making things up. You cannot make up terms for a contract that you are not a party to...
Some are tying to say that fornication ("porneia" in greek) only applies to the unmarried, and that Jesus (Mat 5:32) was talking to those yet to be married. Here is why that is not true. The word for porneia in it's meaning (greek, as our new testament is translated) does not imply (a single, one, not married, or the like). Porneia covers homosexual, heterosexual, beastiality, incest, adultery, pedophilia, it is a generic word used for sexual misconduct. In Rev 2:20-22 Adultery falls under the category of sexual immorality "porneia". In 1 Cor 5:1 there is adultery but the bible uses "porneia". Just because adultery has it's own Greek definition does not mean it can't be included under fornication "porneia". That's like saying lust has it's own Greek definition but can't fall under the category of sin.
Christ was speaking to those still under the Law given to Moses, as the passage proves. 31 "The law of Moses says, ’If anyone wants to be rid of his wife, he can divorce her merely by giving her a letter of dismissal.’ 32 But I say that a man who divorces his wife, except for fornication, causes her to commit adultery if she marries again. And he who marries her commits adultery." Matthew 5:31-32 (TLB) Fornication was indeed sexual intercourse before marriage, ie, "FORNICATION". Which word not have included ADULTERY. For under the same law, ADULTERERS would have been STONED to death.
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 Under the same law those who were betrothed before marriage were also stoned as this was considered adultery as well. Thanks for proving my point.
Ok well Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you commit adultery in your heart and it would be titer to cut out your eye and end yer heaven named than hell whole. SO IF THATS THE CASE THEN IF A SPOUSE LOOKS AT A ANOTHER YOU CAN DIVOCE!? No makes no sense.
@@christopherjordan6237 Whether it is adultery in the heart or adultery in the flesh in each case we need to repent for lusting or having sex with another one's spouse. The passage of "lusting with the heart" is a message of repentance, cutting off (not literally) but repenting most definitely.
@@christopherjordan6237 Why are you shouting? When you take new testament scripture out of harmony with old testament it opens a world filled with supposition and misunderstanding. Take the time to read mark bullen concerning divorce and remarriage also Marcionian teaching. To those that refuse to even look, ignorance is bliss and if that is the case go be happy.
Thank you preacher for your wonderful sermon. You have brought out the truth as it is given in the Bible, however you have not touched on abandonment and abuse. These days spouses can work in different places,either abroad or even overseas. What happens when one spouse goes away and decides not to come back,both believers, both Christians, 1 year,2 years,5 years,10 years ,20 years....what should the remaining spouse do ? Apostle Paul said a wife must not depart from her husband,if she does,she must come back,what if she doesn't come back,is the husband still bound in such a marital relationship ? A spouse theatens you with death everytime you have misunderstandings, even to the extend of holding a knife at you ,must you wait until she stabs you ,for you to know that the relationship is untannable,that if one would have survived the incident.
Hi Fred While I don't agree with all of this pastors conclusions, I didn't get your point. He ask two hypothetical questions that definitely has relevance. They center around the existence of God. If God exist or not makes all the difference in the world. What term did he make up? What lie did he tell?
I believe there are no exception to remarry while your spouse lives math 19 verse 9 is talking about someone who finds out his wife was not a virgin he was not force to continue his engagement no where in scripture does it say remarry if you been cheated on it only talks about remarriage when your spouse dies
Be Ye HOLY I forgave her years ago before she got remarried and had children with her new husband. However it’s been years and I’m tired of waiting for her to die. God commanded the punishment for adultery was to put her to death. So I was waiting for God to end her life, but it’s been a decade and I’m tired of waiting I’ve been alone for a decade. I’m tired of waiting. I guess God’s plan according to this teaching is that she needs to die so I don’t become an adulterer like her. I just want to make sure that’s the teaching God commands according to you.
Philip Buckley so I have to wait on someone else to do it. Ok. Well whatever I’m probably better off alone. Hopefully God comes quickly, or at least ends my service soon. I tire of this life.
If you base your interpretations of Yeshua's and Rabbi Shaul's words from the NT alone, you are building on the wrong foundation. Everything those men taught came from the Torah, God's Instructions to His children on how to worship God, live, and treat each other AFTER coming into His Family. There is only ONE instruction on divorce and remarriage in Torah, Deut 24:1-4. THERE IS NO SIN OF DIVORCE. The sin, the abomination to God, is for a person to REMARRY the SAME person after being divorced from that person. Yeshua was clarifying how to walk out Torah in Matthew; He was speaking to the religious leaders who wanted to know if He subscribed to the school of Hillel or the school of Shammai who had different ideas of what an "indecency" was from the Deut. passage. (BTW, this canNOT be adultery as the punishment for adultery was death.) When you all quote Paul from Corinthians you are forgetting that's HIS ideas, NOT Torah, which he so CLEARLY delineates at the beginning of the passage! Those saying divorce is a sin and those saying you can't remarry are being just like the pharisees of Yeshua's day putting a non-Biblical burden on the people, ie the Traditions of Men Yeshua so vehemently fought against.
Those that are saying that a divorced person can marry another without committing adultery are in direct contradiction to Jesus, just as the lie the man in this video is teaching others.
@@LuxeprivaeMedia Teachings on Marriage 1Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.4The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.7For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. 10And unto the married I command, yetnot I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. (1 Corinthians 7:1-11)
@@ajlouviere202 @AJ Louviere Oddly enough a divorced person is.... wait for it....SINGLE,,,,,,, Therefore cannot by definition be committing adultery. You have already been told this several times yet keep parroting the same Nonsense. Repeating the same lie and ignoring the facts will not make them true.....
JESUS USES WORDS 'FORNICATION' AND 'ADULTERY' INTERCHANGEABLY Revelation 2:20-22, "Because you allow that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds." Fornication also means any and all 'sexual immorality' which a married person can be guilty of.
@@connectionmagazine320 not in the context of Mathew 19 it doesn't. There it's referring to the Jewish betrothal period before marriage. Mathew is written to Jews, which is why the so called "fornication clause" isn't repeated in Luke 16, or Mark 10, or 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, or Romans 7:1-3. They are all written to Gentiles so no betrothal period was practiced. So there is no fornication clause After you are married. Thus there are no grounds for divorce (That was Jesus's whole point) and certainly no grounds for remarriage after divorce.
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Jesus was answering a crowd of Jewish men regarding those who were "married" and getting divorced. He was not just addressing those betrothed.
Isaiah 53:5, he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, we just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in water for the removal of sins and filled with the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38! Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled and rising again from the dead and walking in the newness of life. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man, be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans. Our salvation has to match up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, And they continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. Don't get Titus 3:5 mixed up with James 2:14-26, about WORKS. One is a WORK of your OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS OR GOOD DEEDS and the other is a WORK OF FAITH. Titus 1:16, They profess that they know God; but in WORKS they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. God bless you.
Nobody ever wants to reconcile this teaching with the verse in Deuteronomy where it says that the husband cannot take back the first wife once she's been married again. If your interpretation of scripture does not agree with the whole Bible then you probably need to reconsider your interpretation. Everything he says about divorce is 100% correct but nowhere can you reconcile the teaching that you should leave your spouse that you were married to once you've been remarried. Once the sin has been committed you can't uncommit it. You can't unscramble eggs.
Only heretics say you cant unscramble eggs. Follow Jesus, not Moses and get some discernment. Do you keep all of Moses laws???? If not you are cursed...Cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree...See Mathew 19:8, Genesis 2:24, 2 Corinthians 3:13....In the real Bible....the KJV
Luke 16:14-18 14And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. 15And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. 16The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. 17And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. 18Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery
Billy (Goat) Graham is the one who coined the phrase "you can't unscramble eggs.".....He never preached the truth on this topic. He was a friend of the world and an enemy of God.
@@mustardseedist Jesus NEVER commanded someone to violate the Law of Moses, and if He had, He would have discredited Himself in front of the Pharisees, who would have loved nothing better than to paint Him out to be a liar.
I don’t understand the story about the woman meeting the man at the pool. It seems to me the second marriage is adulterous simply because she had been married before and her first husband was still living.
Stephen W. Wilcox in reference to Jesus in Matthew 5:31,32 says “He has in this passage of Scripture, abrogated the Moses allowance for divorce and remarriage, which allowed the woman to remarry after divorce if she wished to do so (Deut. 24:1-4).” The abrogation supposition imagines Moses as the villain for divorce by allowing it against God’s will. That’s why it’s referred to as “Moses allowance for divorce and remarriage.” Stephen imagines Jesus opposing and reversing this concession thereby abrogating it. Then in this make believe world divorce and remarriage becomes ineffective at that point. The imagination takes you any where you want to go with this issue, unlike scripture, it has no bounds. By claiming Jesus abrogated the divorce concession Stephen has positioned himself to believe other supposition. He believes that marriages no longer end. “Indissoluble marriage” advocates are so bent on defining the adultery of divorce and remarriage with their definition, they fail to see the simple reality that adultery can occur another way. For them Jesus is no longer describing an adultery that’s a result of divorce and remarriage but rather an adultery that results from the absence of these events. Do you see the difference? Can you see how the word of God can be altered by adding information to it? Can you see how Jesus’ teaching on divorce is changed by ignoring His very words? Words have meaning, when you mentally discard them as Stephen does you have changed “the means to an end.” You have altered the very factors that resulted in the conclusion Jesus made. Stephen’s propositional statement (above) contains an important fact that most views on this issue acknowledge, the divorced were allowed to remarry (Deut. 24:2). Both divorce and remarriage were legally binding. Thus they were not in violation to the law that governed Israel. This acknowledgement allows us to begin from a mutual understanding and biblical precedents. Remarriage was tolerated, had legitimacy, was a binding marriage and divorce actually dissolved the first marriage. These realities must be deconstructed in order to postulate the idea of “indissoluble marriage” Stephen propagates. Stephen’s way of doing that is by convincing us that Jesus “abrogated the Moses allowance for divorce and remarriage.” Abrogation is added to scripture and the sequence of events that result in the adultery Jesus described is altered. Divorce and remarriage from Stephen’s perspective are no longer real realities as Jesus spoke of them. Consequently Stephen is putting forth the belief that unlike in the Old Testament divorce and remarriage no longer occurs, is ineffective and therefore no longer changes the marital status of those involved. To affirm this let’s look at some propositional statements advocated by Stephen. Let’s look at where supposition leads. By contrast remember that Jesus’ teaching doesn’t advocate the following (below) convictions if understood within it’s original context. We would then have every reason to oppose the following illusions (below) masquerading as Truth. The “abrogation supposition” is the theory that Jesus abolished the Old Testament divorce concession which in turn made divorce impossible. Stephen Wilcox, a prominent pastor in the Permanence of Marriage Movement reiterates these propositional statements by believing the “abrogation” supposition. He is summarizing the position of some early Church leaders in his message, “Restoration of Christian Marriage”. So these propositions represents what he believes also. * “Death alone terminates the marriage covenant” * “Marriage survives remarriage and precludes it” * “Marriage is a lifelong covenant that will never be invalidated by God while both parties live” * “A marriage is for life. No matter what a spouse turns out to be, or how they may act, what they do or don’t do, or the sins they commit, the covenant remains fully in effect. A remarriage while a former spouse lives is not marriage at all, but sinful adultery. God does not divide the one flesh relationship except by physical death” * “It is necessary therefore to warn those who have remarried while a former spouse lives that they are in a continuing state of adultery according to the scriptures, and must repent of it by confessing that sin and vacating that relationship” While Stephen should be admired for defending the sacredness of marriage it is imperative that you understand the difference between what he is postulating and what Jesus actually said. Stephen is actually claiming the opposite of both Christ and scripture. All because he imagines Jesus doing something He didn’t do. It is imperative that you remain objective when interpreting scripture. There are ramifications for altering the words of Christ. Stephen’s conclusions will cause a conflict between Jesus and Moses, between Old Testament and New. This should be a hint that something is amiss. In contrast to Jesus, Stephen creates the illusion that the adultery of divorce and remarriage is not the adultery of divorce and remarriage, it’s that simple. He doesn’t differentiate between the adultery Jesus describes and the adultery of being unfaithful while married. If you actually end up concluding the opposite of what Jesus said, you pervert the text. If you believe Jesus abolished divorce, you thereby have been programmed to believe the conclusions advocated by Stephen above. It sets you on a trajectory of claiming all the propositions stated by Stephen as if they were true. The bottom line is, Stephen and all who think like him have came to their conclusions by adding to God’s Word. This is no different than the Pharisees who opposed Jesus. By adding their rules to the law of Moses, they made the law more stringent for others and more lenient for themselves. I writing this in hope the reader will gain an understanding of the issue of divorce and remarriage from it’s chronological unfolding. This way of interpreting this issue will be different from those who pick out a New Testament verse and builds a new starting point from it. The new starting point often causes the interpreter to dismiss relevant factors in biblical history that wouldn’t support their conclusion. This is why “abrogation” becomes necessary. If you’re going to make claims the bible doesn’t make you have to convince others that former factors found in the bible have changed. Simply put, a right interpretation must maintain biblical truth as it flowed from Moses to Jesus to Paul. To have an understanding of this issue as it historically unfolded is paramount. To understand Paul’s teaching on this issue we must properly understand Jesus who spoke before him. To understand Jesus we must maintain Old Testament truth set forth by Moses. Paul speaks to what Jesus spoke of and Jesus speaks to what Moses spoke of. We should never believe they contradicted each other. The right interpretation will maintain truth from Moses to Jesus to Paul. Conversely, some have concluded from Jesus’ teaching that “remarriage is adultery” and therefore must be repented of. How? By divorcing their present spouse. Their suppositions create a conflict with biblical precedents because Moses spoke of remarriage as the marriage to whom one was obligated. Therefore a harmonious interpretation of all the biblical writers on this issue cannot be achieved if one is allowed to add (false) suppositions to what Jesus said. These suppositions come from rewording the words of the Lord so that there is no difference between the adultery Jesus described and the adultery that was punished in the Old Testament. While adultery always speaks of infidelity, it does not always transpire the same way. Nor was the culpability for this transgression placed on the women who was divorced by their husband. Therefore you must be open to a view that defends what Jesus actually said over against false supposition. Please note... I’m not arguing against the fact that adultery ensues because of divorce and remarriage, although I do believe there are extenuating circumstances given by Jesus and Paul. I’m arguing for HOW Jesus describes the adultery and the PROPER response to it. I’m arguing for a congruous view of Old and New Testament, no need to make them contradict. No need to try to convince others that Old Testament truths are not relevant to New Testament understanding. I believe if you follow a chronological unfolding of this issue you will properly understand Paul’s New Testament instruction in 1 Corinthians 7. If you don’t, then others will tell you what Paul meant in the vacuum of biblical history and the introduction of extra-biblical suppositions. Most Christians don’t know why adultery follows divorce. It just doesn’t make sense because of their fixed definition for it. They believe adultery only occurs within marriage. That fixed definition doesn’t allow them to grasp that Jesus reveals that adultery entails more than being unfaithful while married. Therefore many of them have come up with theories such as “indissoluble marriage” or “still married in God’s eyes” or “a marriage covenant can’t be broken” or “the one-flesh union can’t be separated except by death” in order to explain the ensuing adultery. None of these theories follow the actual words of the Lord for He is describing the premature end of a marriage, the separating of the one-flesh union, and the consequence of covenant breaking, all which are true in God’s eyes. In God’s eyes scripture is true the way it reads. Don’t let anyone fool you by saying that scripture reads one way but “in God’s eyes” it’s another. (Continued in the reply thread).
The aforementioned theories are ways for some expositors to explain the ensuing adultery. It is imperative that you (the reader) realize that once you create a supposition, particularly a false one, that supposition will have deceptive ramifications. False suppositions change biblical perception and takes the mind into ideas that are a figment of the imagination. The whole conflict among Christians is an argument for or against figments of the imagination created by those (like Stephen) who believe Jesus did something He didn’t do. For example, if anyone can convince a divorced and remarried individual they are not actually divorce and remarried, their mind will automatically default to the idea of “indissoluble marriage”. This will create the illusion that they are still married to their first spouse and therefore they are “in God’s eyes” merely having an affair to which they should end. The first supposition produced the need for another and then postulates a suppositional remedy, one must “divorce to repent” (DTR) of the “affair.” All of this would be rational if the supposition is true. Get the picture? You may be one who follows that reasoning. If so, you need to understand the opposite view of believing that divorce and remarriage are effective events that actually change the marital status of those who experience it. You need to understand that Christ’s conclusions are based in a real and effective divorce and remarriage, conversely Stephen’s conclusions (above) are based in the belief that divorce and remarriage is ineffective, see the difference. One interpretation flows out of the Old Testament and is in harmony with it, and the other puts you on a collision course with the Old Testament. The DTR camp teaches that Jesus “abrogated/abolished” the Old Testament divorce concession in order to explain how adultery ensues from Jesus’ teaching. The irony is “abrogation” is a supposition itself. They interject abrogation into the text because they need someway to defend their belief that adultery only occurs within marriage (their fixed definition for adultery). Following that SUPPOSITION they teach that divorce is no longer possible (another supposition). Most of them will qualify that belief by saying “in God’s eyes” (another supposition) divorce is no longer possible. Consequently they have created the mental illusion that marriage is indissoluble or the idea of “indissoluble marriage”. But the truth is, that was not Jesus’ argument at all. Jesus specifically spoke of an adultery that was the result of divorce and remarriage, not the imaginary absence of those effective events. It is imperative that you realize the distinction between the views and HOW they drawn there conclusions. This post is to help you discriminate between the two. So the relevant question for you to consider is, does the adultery Jesus described happen because divorce and remarriage is now ineffective? DTR suppositions are actually changing the very facts in which Jesus describes this manner of adultery. They miss a very important detail in Christ debate with the Pharisees (Matt.19, Mark 10). In that dialogue Jesus makes a retrospective indictment against Israel for causing this manner of adultery. By insisting on the right to divorce Jesus reveals to His covenant people that they were transgressing God’s design for marriage. I will speak more on this later. If you overlook the fact that Israel had been committing this manner of adultery since their insistence on divorce, you will then see it as something new, as if Jesus caused it by something He did. You will miss the fact that this adultery was caused by hard hearts hundreds of years before the coming Christ. The theory of abrogation actually alters what Jesus revealed to Israel and it’s historic relevance to them. If you omit it’s historic relevance to Israel you will then try to explain it some other way. This is where suppositions arise, the expositor is not able to account for this adultery in the Old Testament. That oversight will then present the need for the expositor to explain the adultery, thus they formulate the aforementioned suppositions. Explaining the adultery other than Jesus’ description is the origin of the conflict in Church history. Don’t read any further until you process that. If you want to understand why Christians have multiple interpretations about the Lord’s teaching, you must understand what your conclusion would be with and without false suppositions. You must realize the difference “abrogation” makes. The relevant question for all is, is the adultery of divorce and remarriage (as described by Jesus) something new to the New Testament? If not, then all the theories that produces the “divorce to repent” supposition are deception. All the propositions reiterated by Stephen (above) is a figment of his and early church fathers imagination. The result of the mental deception exacerbates divorce and destroys established families. Therefore some Christians have produced a remedy for this adultery that is not only extra-biblical, it is anti-biblical. No one in all of scripture taught those remarried to repent of their marriage, no one. Let me pause to say that I know I’m not going to change the mind of the hard line legalist. But for those who are striving to objectively understand and explain this issue, seeing “indissoluble marriage” as false will eliminate the need to postulate other suppositions. Once false suppositions are exposed, there will be no reason to advocate that established families should be dissolved or the “divorce to repent” supposition itself. The best way to keep from following false suppositions is to realize that Jesus was addressing an age old problem. He reveal to His covenant people Israel that they caused this manner of adultery by insisting on the right to discard their wives. This manner of adultery is not something new, nor was there a new remedy issued by Christ or any other New Testament Author. There was no actual conflict between Jesus and Moses. These representatives of God should be interpreted congruously. In the dialogue between Jesus and the Pharisees, Jesus uses the phrase “from the beginning it was not so” to explain the WHY of the adultery He describes, it had nothing to do with the abolishment of divorce. It had everything to do with the reality of an effective divorce. In context Jesus was explaining to Israel that their hard hearts (by insisting on divorce) yielded this manner of adultery. Do you understand if you remove an effective divorce from Jesus’ description you are changing what He described? Are you seeing what supposition (if believed) does to this issue? In context Jesus used the phrase “from the beginning it was not so” (Matt. 19:8) to prove to the Pharisees that divorce is antithetical to God’s idea for marriage. The DTR camp instead claims that Jesus by using that phrase took us back to the time before divorce and then and there abolished it. From supposing on that phrase they claim Jesus abrogated the Old Testament divorce concession, a supposition itself. Do you (the reader) understand that false suppositions are figments of the imagination being defended as TRUTH? Do you understand that these suppositions are foundational to the “divorce to repent” deception? Do you understand there is no abrogation of the law of Moses in Jesus’ teaching? Jesus’ counter argument against those who were defending divorce for every reason (Matt. 19:3) was an appeal to their calloused conscience (harden heart). He revealed to them that divorce staged one to commit adultery by default, defaulting on God’s creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6,8b). Jesus explained that marriage sets forth the obligation to CLEAVE (v.5), therefore having an obligation of lifetime fidelity. In other words when a man and woman enter into marriage they are inherently obligated to a lifetime of fidelity to each the other. What would happen if they did not fulfill that obligation? (Continued in the reply thread).
The simple truth Jesus revealed to Israel was that the obligation inherent in marriage (exclusive intimacy) is violated by divorce and remarriage. The catch 22 is that divorce and remarriage transgresses the principle of exclusivity while forming another husband wife relationship, thereby causing the adultery in the manner Jesus described. Divorce and remarriage produces both a transgression and a transference of marital obligation. This is the dilemma it caused Israel then and the Church today. But the dilemma turns into an enigma when biblical precedents are dismissed by believing remarriage is no longer possible. Or to put it another way, by believing this adultery occurs because the first marriage “survived divorce”. In the Patriarchal society of Israel men were causing their wives to commit adultery by defaulting on the principle of cleaving as explained by Jesus and “the law of her husband” as explained by Paul (Romans 7:2b). These women inadvertently but consequently violated these obligations set forth in marriage. Jesus makes no indictment against the innocent party whatsoever. There was an innocent party and they inadvertently were defiled because of unloving husbands (Deut.24:4). Unlike DTR advocates, Jesus’ criticism focused on divorce not remarriage. Remarriage was graciously allowed for women put away by their husbands (Deut. 24:2). Unfortunately there is an unintentional consequence even for the innocent party. But we have every reason for practical purposes to discriminate between the innocent and guilty party!! That’s because Jesus does exactly that. Jesus indicts the men in Matthew 5:32 with the culpability of their former wives transgression. “causeth her to commit adultery” (KJV) or “makes her the victim of adultery” (NIV) is an indictment against the former husband. Instead of focusing on Christ criticism of divorce, DTR advocates instead choose to focus on remarriage causing the adultery, so therefore “remarriage is the adultery”. But the origin of the problem according to Jesus was hard hearts insisting on divorce (Matt.19:8) and according to the text divorce is what Jesus rebuke the Pharisees for (Matt.19:6). Conversely by adding their suppositions DTR has built a case against remarriage. There is no prohibition (another supposition) for remarriage in Jesus teachings. God’s covenant people were not required to remain companionless because of the consequent defilement and adultery. One must maintain the chronological facts in order to properly understand Paul’s divorce and remarriage restriction later (1 Cor. 7:10,11). While there is a New Testament circumstance where remarriage is prohibited, that restriction is proven unique and not uniform when understood within context as well as the biblical truth that remarriage had been graciously allowed (Deut. 24:2). Historically women, particularly Jewish women had little to no divorce rights but were not forced to endure life without a husband. If you do not start from the biblical base point that remarriage was allowed, 1 Cor. 7:11 will be understood as some uniform rule for every circumstance (even though Paul addresses different ones). Reading that verse void of biblical history and other textual factors will only produce an absolute prohibition not sustainable by knowing all the biblical facts. It is imperative that Christians do not overlook the fact that Jesus described an adultery specifically caused by divorce, not the imaginary absent of it. Do you understand if one omits the retrospective indictment against Israel for causing this manner of adultery, they will then account for the adultery some other way? The DTR camp does exactly that and consequently creates a whole new dimension (enigma) for this issue not even in the bible. Can you be convinced from supposition that repentance requires more for this adultery in the New Testament than it did in the Old? Do you understand that no one in scripture but Moses speaks to an “after remarriage” solution? Do you realize there is no New Testament instruction to “divorce to repent?” Do you now understand that the DTR supposition is predicated on false suppositions itself? The “divorce to repent” supposition is a deceptive lie predicated on deception itself. When we understand Moses and Jesus without these false suppositions we have every reason to believe that divorce and remarriage produced both a transgression and a transference of marital obligation. That would be the harmonious conclusion of believing both Jesus and Moses. Questions for the reader, * How do you account for this manner of adultery? * How do you explain the adultery caused by divorce and remarriage? Why are these two questions important? Because if your premise is false your conclusion will be also. If you do not understand that adultery is not limited to “infidelity within marriage” you will not differentiate and you will end up opposing the Lord on this issue. * Does your explanation affirm or deny the retrospective indictment against Israel? * Do you understand that Jesus was telling Israel they had been committing this manner of adultery ever since they insisted on divorce? Why are these questions relevant? Because if we understand that the adultery Jesus describes is not something new we have no ground to change biblical precedents. Precedents where remarriage was allowed even though it inadvertently caused a shameful consequence. Precedents where remarriage was a binding marriage. * Are you able to differentiate between this way of committing adultery from that of infidelity within marriage? * Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes what Jesus actually said? * Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes when this adultery began? * Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes how Jesus describes this adultery? * Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes why this adultery occurs? * Do you realize the abrogation/abolishment supposition is a deceptive lie (even if unintentional)? All Christians believe that divorce is nothing to be cavalier about it. But divorce is a reality in God’s eyes today just like it was for Moses, Jesus and Paul. We can not make up suppositions to explain it away or to fix it, we will only become more legalistic than Christ. Repentance will then require more in the new Testament than it did in the Old, we will then impose on others a repentance no one in scripture required. Any supposition can be defended from the bible if the text is isolated from biblical history. This is why you must maintain a chronological understanding of the facts as they unfolded. Anyone can refer to a passage of scripture to defend their supposition, but few people actually harmonize it with biblical precedents. “divorce to repent” fabricates a burden on the mind that exceeds the bible, that’s where and why I disagree with it. That conviction is built around false supposition and deductive reasoning as I’ve proved, not a chronological unfolding of biblical history and truth. “divorce to repent” exacerbates divorce and destroys families. Adding transgression to transgression is not the answer. We must maintain the biblical truth that once remarried, individuals are in a binding marriage in God’s eyes to which they should honor. Any supposition to the contrary is just that.
I have been faithful to explain God's Word as it historically unfolded. You on the other hand have embraced false suppositions and are calling me a heretic. God will judge between you and me!!!
My ex-husband and I divorced after 17 yrs. of marriage. I was his first wife; however, he was not my first husband. That was 23 years ago, and I have never remarried. He did go on to remarry, but to a woman who had two previous husbands. Is he committing adultry by being married to a previously divorced woman? I know she is, according to the Bible, but is he?
If his current spouse has a living ex-husband, then yes, he is in adultery with his new wife, for she has made him an adulterer when they entered into marriage.
@@Joy_M507 That's what I thought. She is definitely an adultress. He is also living in adultery by marrying her. This is why I have never remarried, nor sought to. (I also have no man in my life in any form). Thank God for His Grace!!!
@@pamelak.8064 It’s so refreshing to hear of your faith and obedience to God by remaining unmarried. Christ will truly reward you for your faithfulness. You are so loved by God and He is with you. Continue to pray for your ex-husband and pray God brings him and his new wife to the truth. God bless you!
Just a few noteworthy points to consider before coming to any conclusions. 1. Jesus never said marriage to another is adultery. His exact words are causes one to commit adultery. 2. Nowhere does Jesus or any disciple tell those married to another to divorce to repent. 3. Most important God is holy and immutable . This is important! 4. Divorce and marriage to another is addressed in deuteronomy24. 5. Jesus was the only one that could fulfill the law. 6. Jesus did not come to change the law not one jot or tittle. 7. Jesus is and was a Jew that adhered to the law. 8. When Jesus addressed divorce and marriage to another he explained the consequences of these actions to the pharisees. 9. The is no taking the law to a higher standard as God is holy and immutable. Not here to tell people what to do just to give perspectives that are left out of those that promote DTR.
The question is why did you and your husband divorce? If YOU filed for divorce, YOU left him, or YOU cheated... He was free to remarry. She was free to marry or remarry if she had legitimate KJV biblical grounds. But if either or both of you have become a true born again Christian since then, your past BEFORE CHRIST.... Is your past. A true vonvert becomes a completely different person.
The fundamental question here...does “put away” mean the same thing as “divorce”. Bastardized modern English translations of the Bible say it does. Scholars of the original Hebrew/Greek languages say the two terms are not equal. Put away (apoluo) means to simply send away without a bill of divorcement (apostacion), a practice that was common in ancient Jewish culture. Jewish men treated women like a piece of property they could toss to the curb. Jesus said to put away and remarry is adultery. He did not say to divorce and remarry is adultery. Before preaching hell, fire, and damnation these modern preachers need to study the meaning of the original language in greater detail.
Mike Arcuri Thanks brother, they just blatantly take word of God at face value without doing a proper study of the word using exegesis and etymology. All English version is a translation of the original text and are with some error of wording.
NO! That is not the fundamental question. The real issue is, when the man abandons his wife, and she has not committed adultery already, he is the one who is causing her to do so! If she committed porneia, that IS adultery, and he is not the one who caused her to do that!
Mike Arcuri 1 Corinthians 7:10 10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she Must Remain Unmarried OR else Be Reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. Romans 7:1 By law a married woman is Bound to her husband As Long As He Is Alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, She IS Called an Adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man Luke 16:18 “Jesus said: Whosoever/anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Greek present continuous tense or state of being)
Christopher Jordan You are quoting me the mistranslation that I alluded to in my post. Jesus never used the word divorce. He used the term put away, which is not the same.
Remarriage never was the adultery. Jesus was criticizing divorce and He did so by revealing what it caused for remarriage. God had not forced singleness on His covenant people even though they inadvertently committed this manner of adultery. Divorce is the primal cause because it prematurely ends a marriage therefore staging remarriage to violate the “faithfulness until death” responsibility. Jesus taught that divorce causes one to commit adultery when they remarry, not the marriage is the adultery. The focal point of criticism was on divorce. This manner of adultery is a two factor or two cause adultery, not one factor. Remarriage causes adultery because of divorce. That was the Lord’s point and that is why He admonished Israel to stop separating the one-flesh union (Matt. 19:6). That was His only instruction on this issue. Jesus did not teach that more divorce was the answer to this predicament. Neither did anyone else in scripture.
If you can prove that I have taught differently from God's Word, I will change my view. But the false teaching comes from those like you who adds to God's Word. Therefore you should realize that it will be you who is judge for false teaching. I challenge you to explain what I said that is not true according to scripture (without misrepresenting me). In other words, detail our differences so that they are fairly understood by any readership.
Neal Doster are you saying that adultery is only committed once in the wedding day and then in the morning everything is good and God now blesses that marriage? Or does the couple have to repent in the morning of their adultery the night before and then every day after that they are good?
Genuine question. In the scenario he’s describing about the couple, did I miss something? Why would they not be able to be married? She committed adultery against her husband by having an affair, but if they were already married prior to her doing that, can’t he just forgive her? I don’t understand how that makes their marriage not scriptural? Where was the divorce in the situation? Or did I miss some other context?
In his confusion he has conflated the word for fornication with the word for adultery. He rightly points out later, in 1 Cor 7, that the word for bonds (as in marriage) and bound (as in slavery) are different words, however in Matt 19:9/5:32 he conflates adultery and fornication. Modern teachers of the world subsume adultery under fornication but ignore when the two are listed together. If fornication covers adultery within itself as a charge then adultery need not be named because it is already covered/listed under fornication. But what is ignored is Matthew is the only book where the exception is given... it is also, in Matthew 1, the place where divorce of betrothal is accounted. Joseph being betrothed to Mary. Joseph being a just (just as in justice of law) man. It appeared to Joseph that Mary had been a fornicator (one who has sex outside of the bonds of marriage) was minded to divorce his betrothed, Mary. This is the one place this speaker misses; many people have been misled in this one mistake. Remember all commands are summed up in love; love God first and love your neighbor second. So, (1 Cor 13) is divorce patient, kind, not keeping a record of wrong...? No. Is remarriage hoping, believing and enduring all things for your lost spouse's sake? No. Then divorce and remarriage is not acting in love. When then is divorce allowed? Love- when it is us not insisting on our own way but allowing our spouse to depart. This is what God did with Israel in Jeremiah 3... but remember 8 verses after he granted Israel its certificate of divorce he said, "return to me for I AM MARRIED UNTO YOU." divorce did not end the covenant marriage only Jesus's giving of his life on the cross ended that covenant and allowed for a new covenant.
That story was confusing. It sounds like she had been married before and was divorced from that husband who had cheated on her. And she also had an affair during that marriage. But this pastor is wrong in his assessment of the situation IMO. It doesn’t matter who cheated on who. It’s just that she is not allowed to remarry while her first husband is living.
@@danieldeluca4936 I believe you are correct. If a woman leaves him he may remarry as long as he did not divorce her. But what if she repents and decides to comeback? What then? You can't have 2 wives in America. He cannot marry a woman with a living husband. Why are the rules laid out by God different for men and women? It has to do with Woman being taken from a mans rib and not via versa.Example: Michal left David and married another man.[adultery].David took another wife.[not adultery].Example 2 David knew he could not have Urriahs wife while he[Urriah] was alive. So david had Urriah killed. Murder and adultery.And WHEW!!! Did God make him pay!
Wow, someone could research this by researching where he has preached and eventually find out who this woman was. Geez, thanks for the confidentiality, preach!
I understand that you feel that you are being compassionate toward those who are in this situation, one that I was also in for 15 years, but you are not telling people what they need to hear when it comes to covenants with God and teaching falsely. The damage is being done by giving false hope for remarriage after a divorce which is a 500 year old false gospel that was not practiced in the first 1500 years within any church. Biblical grounds for remarriage after a divorce is a lie and total nonsense that is settng people up and keeping them from inheriting the kingdom of heaven. Two becomming one-flesh is more than an "intention" or "idea", but covenants with God are permanent until death. Ok...answer this...does Jesus not say in Matthew 5:32 "That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery?" What is so difficult for most people to understand about this scripture? The woman in this case is not guilty of fornication during Jewish betrothal (which is the Mosaic Law that is clearly outlined in Deuteronomy 22:13-21), but is in danger of comitting adultery with another man because she is now divorced . Any pastor or teacher should know that Matthew was written to the Jews (Romans 1:16), and is the first of the synoptic gospels with over 20 specific characteristics that speak directly to a Jewish audience. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees that were preaching like this video and who believe that hardness of hearts that caused divorce and remarriage was ok. Jesus reaffirms the one-flesh covenant when he says to the Pharisees "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so" (Matthew 19:4-8). More proof that this video is in error is by teaching from the Old Covenant Law regarding David when Jesus addresses the Pharisees in Luke 16 as seen here: "And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery" (Luke 16:14-18). Jesus clearly is telling the Pharisees that the Law and the prophets were until John the Baptist began preaching the coming of the kingdom. Preaching on divorce and remarriage from the Old Covenant is serious error because it denies the authority of Christ through the New Covenant. This video is mocking the scriptures and scoffing at those who are following the scriptures and not man's interpretation. To further prove this is teaching falsely is that it also takes 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 out of context in an attempt to apply it to divorce and remarriage when the entire chapter of 2 Corinthians 6 is about ministry from beginning to end. What is not being made clear is that Paul already dealt with the topic of divorce and remarriage in his first letter to the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 7 and would not have repeated this in a chapter about ministry. We need to divide the word and allow it to affirm other scriptures but some either do not yet know that 2 Corinthians 6 is speaking specifically about ministry or deliberately ignore it in order to justify remarriage after a divorce. It should be simple but we have teachers like in this video sowing confusion and preaching to itchy ears. Another proof that some are teaching falsely is by telling you that 1 Corinthians 7:15 disolves a one-flesh covenant but is not telling you that Jesus is speaking through Paul when he says "not I but the Lord" when he commands the departing spouse to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" just four scriptures above in 1 Corinthians 7:11. This is literally attempting to teach that Paul overruled Christ and says that the brother or sister is no longer "bound", but that is not what the actual scripture says. Here is the actual scripture, "But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace" (1 Corinthians 7:15). The phrase "not under bondage" means slavery to sin against God by force with an unbelieving spouse, not a release from the one-flesh covenant as this teaching suggests. The word bondage always refers to slavery not marriage. The Word is clear. Matthew is written to the Jews first and was speaking on the Jewish betrothal found in Deuteronomy 22:13-21, and clearly proves Luke 16:16 true in John 8:11 by forgiving the adulteress. By telling her to sin no more he is telling her to repent and return to her covenant husband just as God commanded Hosea to take back Gomer. The matter of being equally yoked in 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 is regarding ministry, not marriage. This is easily proven by 1 Corinthians 7:12-14 where the unbeliever accepts that the believing spouse has found faith in God but wishes to remain and not hinder their beliefs. Many also falsely use the woman at the well as an excuse to remarry but this is easily explained by Matthew 22:23-28, where Jesus is being told of a similar situation where a widow marries seven brothers, each after the previous brother dies. This both legitimizes and reaffirms the one-flesh covenant as well as the nature of Jesus's acknowledgement of the five husbands of the Samaritan woman, as well as the illegitimacy of the 6th man. If the five husbands of the woman at the well were not covenant husbands then Jesus would not have acknowledged that they were. This video is also teaching falsely when it comes to God's divorce with Israel. The reason some find it difficult to understand Jeremiah 3:1 is that they make two mistakes while reading the parable of Israel as the divorced wife. Many error by only reading half the parable. Let’s first examine this parable more closely. Jeremiah’s purpose in using this parable is two-fold. First, the prophet wishes to vividly illustrate Israel’s spiritual disloyalty to its Creator. Second, and most important, unlike the twice-estranged wife whose original husband cannot return to her, the prophet appeals to the Jewish people to repent and proclaims that it is their sacred mandate to be restored as God’s chosen people. What is impossible with the forsaken woman is the destiny for the children of Israel. Let’s look at the entire verse in context: They say, “If a man divorces his wife, and she goes from him and becomes another man’s, may he return to her again?” Would not that land be greatly polluted? But you have played the harlot with many lovers; “Yet return to Me,” says the Lord (Jeremiah 3:1). The central feature of the prophet’s exhortation that you overlooked appears at the very end of the verse, ” ‘Yet return to Me’, says the Lord.” Jeremiah makes this plea five times throughout the chapter. The message conveyed by prophet clear: The mercy and compassion of the Almighty is far beyond the scope of man’s comprehension. God has made it clear that Israel has been unfaithful but still his wife. Teaching that God has remarried the church (which is the bride of Christ, not God), who is only betrothed to Christ until the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, is uncatigorically false and presents a major conflict in scripture. By doing this you present God as a polygamist in an attempt to void all scriptures that pertain to the one-flesh covenant. Please seek the scriptures for confirmation and answers before entering into or remaining in a situation such as an adulterous marriage that requires total repentance. God bless.
No, ppl know simple facts and don't follow bullcrap like what ur saying. Facts such as a divorced person is SINGLE.......You don't understand basic information regarding people and Marital status. You don't know contract law. And you certainly don't know what it means to love,,,,
@@LuxeprivaeMedia your anger toward me is without cause. I am only talking about the clear scriptures in Jesus's words regarding the topic. I will be honest and say that the best medicine is the word itself.
@@ajlouviere202 Do you actually know how to read? Like seriously? Did you even read what I wrote? I addressed some things and you glossed right over it and went saying Im angry, lol Intellectually dishonest sir, that is what you are....
I am have great difficulty finding a church or pastor that believes and teaches this. So Many churches and pastors have fallen away. They are ashamed of the word of God. They will not preach the whole council of God.
Though we can not break marriage contract by ourselves , we can pray and God can break it himself, And it won't be sin. There are abusive partners, there are so and so partners.... Pray until God gives you guidance ore to break the contract.
Lol you guys really try to twist scripture and really believe you know how God works. The scripture says God Hates Divorce. You can divorce but cannot remarry. Please turn to your Bible and not your feelings.
God never said He will break the contract. Our vows were so serious that yes,we can seperate(abuse and more).. but we cannot re marry after divorce. Only death of our husband or wife. Took me years (God was patient).. to believe I couldn’t re marry. Now..I’m old and actually understand how serious my vows were. And I have the peace that passes all understanding. I’m no longer sad that I’m single. I love God so much more then I did as a young woman.
I would recommend fasting and prayer for one's self to truly ask God for the revelation of his word on this topic and bible scripture, these scriptures.are not milk but meat and must be discerned by the Holy Ghost thru faith in Jesus Christ. Because we all will give an account of our works before Jesus Christ.
Question - if the man who was put away for adultery (although you said fornication), and he would be committing adultery if he remarried, who is he committing adultery against, since you claim his wife is on longer married to him by biblical permission?
Truth is hard to swallow, but we are walking a very narrow road and thats it. There is only 2 roads BROAD AND NARROW.
....Married for 45yrs...Till death do us apart in Jesus name Amen 🙏🏾 🙌🏾 ❤️ 💖
Till death!
@@gennisparry4352 amen! Til deaf do us part. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
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Luke 16:18.
@@1951JULY Luke 16:18 KJV is not stand alone. It's not the only scripture on the subject.
Luke 16:18 is not speaking of putting away a wife who already has committed adultery, but one who hasn't. Let Matthew 19:9 harmonize with Luke 16:18 KJV only
The simple truth has already been provided to us by Jesus in his word, which says, "whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery, and if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”
I completely agree! I just don’t understand why people don’t see with their own eyes what Jesus clearly said in the scriptures. Lustful hearts will only see what they want to see. Instead of getting on their knees and fiercely praying for their marriage, they lustfully divorces and seek sexual pleasure elsewhere
And if you ask for forgiveness of adultery. You are forgiven..Jesus didn’t die on the cross for all sins with the exception of adultry.
@@JohnDoe-ib9gf Yes you will be forgiven for adultery and/ or any sin if you repent and leave that sin. The Holy Spirit has been given to all true believers to give us the awesome power and guidance to leave that sin. However you MUST repent and leave that sin! If you marry a married woman that has an adultery and until you leave that marriage you have fully repented. Example is a gay marriage. They can pray and seek forgiveness all they want but they MUST come out of that sinful circumstance.
@@JohnDoe-ib9gfI was an alcoholic when I came to Jesus, Jesus told me to repent and turn away and forsake alcoholism, that means I quit that sin of drinking. Jesus does not tell his people they can remain living in the life of practicing sin. His people will fall in moments in sin, like pride or bitterness, but if they do find themselves in sin they will be convicted of that sin (they have a free will but obeident children of God will obey) because the holy spirit will convict them with the law he wrote on their heart and forsake that sin. I also was the one who committed adultery in my marriage, Jesus commanded me to return home to my husband and my husband told me that Jesus was commanding him to forgive me. We reconciled, God has blessed our marriage immensely regardless of my past sin of adultery that I'm forgiven of, because I forsook it. Had I remained an adulterer I would be on my way to hell because God himself told me that I was on my way to hell if I didn't repent/forsake my adultery and go home to my husband. Jesus says if a spouse separates let them remain celibate single or to reconcile with their spouse. Jesus makes it very clear those who get divorced and remarried are living in the sinful act of adultery and he is calling them to forsake that wicked lifestyle sin, to remain single or reconcile. Marriage is for life between one man and one woman both whom have never been married before one another.
@@JohnDoe-ib9gf I was an alcoholic when I came to Jesus, Jesus told me to repent and turn away and forsake alcoholism, that means I quit that sin of drinking. Jesus does not tell his people they can remain living in the life of practicing sin. His people will fall in moments in sin, like pride or bitterness, but if they do find themselves in sin they will be convicted of that sin (they have a free will but obeident children of God will obey) because the holy spirit will convict them with the law he wrote on their heart and forsake that sin. I also was the one who committed adultery in my marriage, Jesus commanded me to return home to my husband and my husband told me that Jesus was commanding him to forgive me. We reconciled, God has blessed our marriage immensely regardless of my past sin of adultery that I'm forgiven of, because I forsook it. Had I remained an adulterer I would be on my way to hell because God himself told me that I was on my way to hell if I didn't repent/forsake my adultery and go home to my husband. Jesus says if a spouse separates let them remain celibate single or to reconcile with their spouse. Jesus makes it very clear those who get divorced and remarried are living in the sinful act of adultery and he is calling them to forsake that wicked lifestyle sin, to remain single or reconcile. Marriage is for life between one man and one woman both whom have never been married before one another.
This sermon was done some years ago, never would I have thought at that time that the years later it would be for me to hear from the Lord. Sadly, my pastor does not have the courage to correct people in our congregation and in his family regarding the sins that they do. I myself corrected a brother who was told by our pastor not to worry about it; and the it was that he was living in fornication with a long time girlfriend: I could not sit there as he told me what the pastor had said to him. It burned within my soul the scriptural truth and I told him how wrong it was and gave him scripture to read. Whether he did read it and whether he will obey the scriptures is on him. I appreciate this Pastor I have been listening to and that he also has the true version of the Bible to confer with and to declare the truth of what God truly says to mankind. I myself am going through a very emotional time as a born-again Christian, as my husband left me in July of 2021, to live with a woman he has been committing adultery with. She too is an adulterer as she is going through a divorce from her second husband. In the 7 months I have been dealing with this horrible sin, I have put a call in to a lawyer for a divorce. I have sought out many scriptures in the Bible concerning marriage and divorce, there are many. But I am a truth seeker, and I have asked God to lead me to all truth so I can make the right decision and not sin against God. I do believe the Lord has used this preacher today May 20th 2022, for me to hear as I will not he told all the truth from my church.
I praise God Almighty for this wonderful truth of his and for his word from his true Bible. I hope and pray that many others who are going through this sad tragic incident of divorce and broken marriages will find great consolation from the Lord God.
To add on to the comment I made about my broken marriage, I just want to add that my husband told me a couple years ago that it was late on his heart that he had "no repentance". I remember him getting angry at that conviction, but doing nothing about it. The woman he is with now knows he is married, and does not care that he is married, and she is unsaved. My so-called husband said he witnessed to her and she does not want to listen or believe. And I gave her a "tract" regarding salvation and the truth about God's law as she says she is now "into" Judaism.
Thank you for your testimony and stand for the truth.
For my entire life until this year, I’ve been attending a church where they don’t explain to you anything about what the Bible says & year after year you hear the same versus over & over they don’t touch anything like this, to me it’s a sound doctrine what they teach, so for that matter many of us have gone through sin and thinking that just by asking God for forgiveness we’re all good to go, as that’s how they make it seem, I’m a born again Christian and I do not repent one bit having left that church. I seek the truth of God and that’s all I need to live a godly life.
@@bornagain2890 have you heard of a preacher names Gino Jennings? He makes marriage and divorce and remarriage clearer then even this preacher. I met Gino in person and also sat under his preaching. You can look him up on you tube or go to his website under First church of our Lord Jesus Christ in Pennsylvania.
@@truthmatters4ever247 Gino calls people names and gets legalistic on topics. You don’t go around shouting you’re a hoe. That’s wrong. Also if a women is wearing a wig etc.. it’s not sin. My goodness there are women going through chemo losing their hair. It’s ok to wear a wig. Makeup is ok too. Just keep it subtle. The whole thing behind that is to not wear it to an extreme to make men look at you in lust. Be wise. I read he doesn’t believe in the trinity as well.
final word....let us never back, away, from what God says.....a big AMEN to this...
This is an excellent teaching. I tried several times to write to one of the commenter's below who doesn't understand what this pastor is teaching, but finally deleted my comments. Not because I don't feel they're important, but because I know that when someone wants to believe that marriage, divorce and remarriage without just cause, is okay by God, there is nothing that I could say to them that will change their minds. They would just take my words and throw them back at me saying "and who are you?" Hopefully, they will listen to this pastor.
Except for the part where he tries to make an issue out of Adam only having one wife. What about the fact that God gave David his master's wives into his bosom, or that Jehoida the priest brought two wives to King Joash?
@@danieldeluca4936 these questions get answered over and over....Acts 17.30 .King James Version
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
@@danieldeluca4936 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”
Beautiful truth being told. Jesus frees us to say the truth as it is (and forever will be).. In South Africa pastors are not talking that gospel anymore for fear of offending some people. And just to make everyone "comfortable" the guess. Thanks for this. I've shared it.
I wonder how many men in his congregation have never went out on their wife’s? I wonder how many have even thought about it. If so then they have committed this sin. Did you know that God was a divorcee. Yep, the Bible says that God is a divorcee. There is no sin unforgivable. Except Blasphemy and that can’t happen until the last days. I wonder how many of these people have read the Caucasian’s history which is the Old Testament. They even had Concubines. Have you ever read about Solomon? The Old Testament has not been done away with.
Always remember.... The married couple is bound and not free from the marriage until death . Regardless of what anyone says...
amen...
Amen!
That's right
God gives only one exception- Matt. 19:9...We must take all scripture and draw our conclusion...of course God hates divorce and his purpose for marriage is one man one woman forever...only exception is fornication
Fornication is sex before marriage. It was a Jewish custom back in Jesus time that couples will betrothed for an entire year before they were to marry. This betrothal was unbreakable except for fornication being committed by the soon to be bride. That is all this means. There are no exceptions in covenant marriage even if somebody cheats on their spouse.
Thanks brother. This is enlightening. This is not another version, it is the truth. God did not intend the truth about marriage, divorce and remarriage to be a mystery, rather men have been mischievous and could never have come to the simple truth. Thanks giving expression to my heart inclination concerning this subject.
Amen Brother! Thank you for standing on the Truth of the Word of God!!!!! This is how I believe the Word. I am divorced from fornication and I can not and will not date or marry again until my x husband dies. Everyone thinks I need to date or marry again. My purity, honor for our heavenly father is more important to me. He takes care of me and my only trust in Him. Amen!
@@danielonyango144 it was in another dispensation...
My wife left me , we were 27 , I raised our children , I filed and divorced her , she remarried , I did not , she died , I brought our children up in the church , and have 8 grand children., I've had a wonderful life growing up with my children , not an easy life but a Good one . At 60 now I would like a wife , am I ok to remarry ? I have struggled with this many years .
You are free to marry sir because the death of your ex-wife is terminated by death the only scriptural terminator of marriage. “Until death do us part”
@@TheJadefila so let me get this straight, if your wife leaves you for another man and then she divorces you because she wants to be with that man you're trying to say that you can't get remarried?
You were free to remarry when she remarried. God has a good wife for you
@@queenmotheralainasdiaspora2510 till death do we part , God's words . When she died I was free.
Just ask God for forgiveness about The divorce cause divorce is also sin.. But you are free
Find yourselves a pre 16th century Bible. Newer translations have all been compromised. Just by changing the meaning of words. It is my understanding the Bible can be revised legally. However there has to be a certain number of words changed to meet the criteria for revision. I myself have been able to see the truth in any version I pick up. Thank you lord! The truth is one man one woman one covenant with God. Its for life!
Amen...I agree with you an lm gonna say it I agree with Scripture an Pastor Gino Jennings...God Bless You...AMEN✝️
Amen
Clinton street greater bethlehem temple
My friend your wrong the plurality of wives is not a sin but because behavior of natural man it become A difficult thing. Read Isaiah chapter 4,
Actually the Old King James Bible was Translated from the Original Hebrew, Greek, and Chaldean. King James had 80 Translators working on it and Each Person of the 80 Translators had to Agree on every word Translated. Do You Realize how hard it is to get 5 people to Agree on any one thing ??? For studying I suggest a Mathew Henry Study Bible, Strongs Concordance, Wilson's for the Old Testament and a Vines for the New Testament
I been a single mother since I was 28 I am 37 and life some times are harder and I was praying to the Lord because many pastors and christian people that I reached out to me saying get married you still young but all the time that I pray God keep showing me the father of my girls with the one I do get married we still are married but he lives with another woman and I don't feel to sign the divorce because I feel fear for some reason and I truly believe that this the truth of my Lord and Savior and my faithful companion always and forever He have been taken care of us in many miracle ways
Hi
I read your comment
and I too walked away from my earthly husband who too was having an affair,and now still with her.I was torn apart and because we had built a large house and had three children,we came to an agreement children to stay there with him in that house which was to be the family home.
As I said I was torn apart went into the worldly ways ,went to another country.
And praise God in the middle of living with another man(adultery relationship),God called me by my name audibly
as I entered the family room one day when I came home from work.What an experience and the next day again audibly as I was lighting the fire.I seen all my sin before me and felt God's presence in the Room.
I repentance there and then accepted Christ as my saviour, lord and my Friend.
I had a real Damascus experience.And like you don't feel to be in a relationship with another man.moved out of that situation with that man I was then living with.
And now serving the Lord wherever he wants me to go or do.
You too stay close to The Lord he will watch over you always.he is always there.Felt led by the Holy Spirit to share this with you.to encourage you.
Let the Lord always lead and guide you.
We can be assured all his promises are by faith in Him that Miracles do happen .We his children.
Gal2.20; Ephes.2.19,20.
Hope this encourages you
But you can remarry because Jesus did say except for fornication. He committed adultery so that gives you ground for divorce. So anyone who marries you next wont be committing adultery with you. You can remarry. Read Deuteronomy 24
@@ryanmason760 fornication is not adultery....otherwise why have two terms....
@@ryanmason760Fornication and adultery are 2 diffrent meanings . Go study
Great Preaching always stick with the Word of God, never waver from the Truth no matter how much or who it hurts period. My Father who I love divorced my Mother after almost 30years of marriage, and remarried another woman. I pray for him all the time to be saved.
This world is not my home I'm just-a passing through. .... Not important.
Fornication only occurs between single people. Adultery happen between married people.
What are you saying? Polygomy?
@@LuxeprivaeMedia No. Fornication only defined as sex force single before one is married. Adultery is sex while one is married with one who is not the marital partner.
@@ghinso1967 They are both covered under sexual sin, some bibles say chastity. Whatever word you wanna use if u sexing up anyone other than your spouse and they didn't agree to it it is wrong and grounds for divorce and is a violation of their marriage and rights therin and the injured party has remedy. Let's not get caught up in the word hacking. I know a guy who said he didn't cheat on his wife because he only got head from the other woman....but I say to you whoever lusts upon has already committed sin in his or her heart. There is a principal here, which is the spirit of the law. When we wrong someone we are to make them whole. We make amends. We do NOT punish the innocent spouse...
fornication
noun
for·ni·ca·tion | \ ˌfȯr-nə-ˈkā-shən \
Definition of fornication
: consensual (see CONSENSUAL sense 2) sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other
What’s the difference between adultery and fornication?
In case you were wondering, the words adultery and adult are not etymologically related (in other words, adultery didn’t grow out of adult in the way that punditry grew out of pundit). Although both words come from Latin and share the same first five letters, adultery is from adulterāre (“to pollute, defile, commit adultery”), a word formed ultimately from the Latin elements ad- “to, near” and alter“other.” English adult comes from adultus, which is the past participle of the Latin word adolescere (“to grow up”).
In legal use there is a difference between adultery and fornication. Adultery is only used when at least one of the parties involved (either male or female) is married, whereas fornication may be used to describe two people who are unmarried (to each other or anyone else) engaging in consensual sexual intercourse.
adultery
noun
adul·tery | \ ə-ˈdəl-t(ə-)rē \
plural adulteries
Definition of adultery
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner
adultery
noun
adul·tery | \ ə-ˈdəl-tə-rē\
Legal Definition of adultery
: voluntary sexual activity (as sexual intercourse) between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband
(Source: Webster's Dictionary)
@@ajlouviere202 fairly certain nobody asked you as you are not credible on the subject...You duck and dodge better than OJ in his prime....
Praise God brother for your life because no one preaches that about divorce and marriage a lot of preachers don’t imposters don’t even talk about it🙏❤️🕊🔔
Gino Jennings
@@dawnstatis1 Yep, he does!
@@dawnstatis1Jennings was challenged by Johnny Robertson to come and debate him but Jennings refuses ua-cam.com/video/xeOBW3yKqb4/v-deo.htmlsi=xSYi-w7jwe9YkGqQ 4:51
try David Pawson....
As another poster has stated:
" It is simple. Divorce and remarriage is adultery. No adulterer will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
Which is quite true according to Bible teaching.
"Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality,
10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God."
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (AMPLIFIED BIBLE)
As Such Were Some of You, But You Have Been Washed , We Have Been Sanctified , We Have All Been In Those Situations, If We Remarry, Are We to Divorce Again?
Or Should We Be Faithful to My Now Wife
My First Marriage Was About Lust and Comfort, Not Love, I Was Young, But My New Wife of 12 Years is a Woman of God, And I Don't Know Where I Would be Without Her.
@@SD_Chosen
At what stage did you come to Christ and was baptized by immersion in water?
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 I Was Baptized Years After My Divorce, And I Am Just Beginning to Come to Full Knowledge of the Truth and Certain Scripture, My First Marriage I Was Just Out of Prison and Needed a Place to Stay, I Was Not Ready, I Make No Excuses, But I Don't Believe I Did it For Love...My Wife Now I Believe I Did it for Love, But I Have Had Issues Even Still Yet...Working on Bettering Myself.
@@SD_Chosen
Was your second wife a baptised believer by immersion in water, at the time she married you?
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 I Think So
I'm Not Sure, But I Know She Was Saved, A Believer.
Ooohhhweeeeeee!!! Someone standing on the word like this!!!!!!! Who is this Man???Preach on Brother,,,Preach on!!!
BJ Clarke
Great Teaching. Simply the BEST. May the Lord Bless You in Abundance, Preacher. 🎉😊
John the Baptist lost his head by telling Herod it was 'not lawful ' to have Herodias as they were committing adultery!
Which proves this marriage commandment applies to both the saved and unsaved, right? What about if a nonbeliever leaves a believer after the divorce, after “trying again”?
@@bailey1493 This happened to my friend although her unbelieving husband didn't try again. 1 Corinthians 7v12,13 . He couldn't stand to live with her once she got saved and issues arose so we are called to live 'in peace'. He left and got a divorce and has now re-married. All one can do is to keep praying for the unsaved, to come to repentance and God will work things out, this is how I understand it from what I have studied on the subject and in the Word.
It wasn't lawful because they were breaking the Levitical law of a man marrying his brother's wife whilst the brother was still alive. Herod and Phillip were Jews and should of known better. It had nothing to do with what Christ spoke of in the Gospels. The Bible hadn't been compiled when John confronted Herod. He was referring only to the Torah..
Excatly explain this to this false preacher
Keep.thinking that - not a popularity plan is it speaking God's word :)
Not every one that saith unto me 'Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that doeth the will of my Father in heaven.' We interpret the unclear, unobscure verses in light of the CLEAR, unbscure ones. 1 Cor 7 addressed to Christians. No divorce - separation only with view to reconciliation (must forgive) , if possible. Otherwise, stay as eunuch for the kingdom! The Lord laid it on my heart just after I became a Christian that my first legitimate spouse was my biblical one - not the second who I had already divorced from before salvation. There is so much worldliness in the church allowing the laws (man's) to define what is right/wrong, justified. We as God's children obey His commandments!
James 2:10 if you broken 1 point of the law, your guilty of all. If you've ever lusted your already committed adultery. Salvation is the cross,grace plus nothing. What sin is unforgiveable other than un-forgiveable, unbelief................
I’m glad some understand.
Thank you! God did not want me to live with an evil, demonic Narcissist.
Why not keep the Sabbath if that law still stands 😊😊😊😊😊
Dear Pastor, I'm a divorcee, I've struggled with this issue for years. why? my former pastor gave me scripture on divorce when I went to him on the matter because I wanted to remarry, however he remarried a member of the congregation who was a divorcee to a brother whose wife was dead. This leaves me questioning what the Bible says. Thanks, it's not easy to live with my present state but I'll have to rely on God's help.
Carmen, why did you divorce your first husband? I'm gonna try and help my friend
@Sabre that's the way I read it too
You're allowed to marry a widow or person who has not been divorced nor previously married.
If her husband is still alive. They are both committing adultery.
@@servandobaltazar3717 no she is not. She can’t remarry until her husband dies.
Well said n well done pastor Jim. God bless U for this message. U are completely right.
A catholic priest once preached. Those who are divorced n remarried must live as brother n sister. So tht they will not live in adultery.
The holy spirit will teach n help n comfort n give strength to obey.
Why would God give us the example of Hosea then? Gomer was an adulterer and yet Hosea remained faithful to her like Christ remains faithful to his people? Doesn’t forgiveness and loving one another do away with the law of Moses?
Excatly
No remarriage. Only if the Wife or Husband is dead. Mark 10 : 11-12 1 Corinthians 7: 10 - 12 makes it clear in the scriptures. I can not be married again until my first wife dies / be dead.
Thank you for this encouragement!!!
Me and my wife was married for 12 years, she committed adultery, and left me for the same man she committed adultery with, and then years later filed for a divorce, had no choice but to Grant her a divorce can't make her stay with me, now I remarried we're both Christians now and very happy, praise the Lord.
Reply other place,s need two hear this thankyou shalom Marie☝️🤗🕊️
Amen!
Personally I believe the past of any believer walking in spirit is simply the past! 2 Cor 5:17.. if we are to undo our pasts what will the murderer do, how about the child molester, or the rapist... once we have come to the knowledge of The Truth, The Word, that's when it brings light into us...and that light erases our past... it's simply gone, God has forgotten it..
According to this guy and many Christians beleive that if divorced can never be remarried
As a young convert raised in church but not raised in Christ and someone who was once married but now divorced. I cannot remarry according to Gods Word that's just the plain truth. No matter if God gave me 40 more years here with someone else by my side it wouldn't be worth eternity in a lake of fire. I couldn't do that to her or myself. I'd rather die a eunauch than die lost. Sure the church world is full of ppl who claim to be Christian but are in their second or more marriage. Its wrong.
He was partially right but there is NO EXCEPTION!!!! There is no divorce and remarriage unless your spouse dies death is the only thing that can free you to marry another!! The scripture he read about unless for fornication in Matthew he missed a key detail a married person cannot commit fornication a married person commits adultery so that scripture means basically if your engaged and your spouse commits fornication with another you’re free to leave
So basically really be engaged to this person and get to know them extremely well for a long time. Before you officially marry them, know this person thoroughly.
@@rooseveltdarbey9493 yes but we should also seek the kingdom of God first and all things will be added to us but that’s a great idea get to know that person very well and make sure they are what and who you want and also make sure they understand divorce isn’t an option
Not many see this. The Lord showed me too that there is NO ESCAPE clause in Marriage it is till death parts one another. In Mathew it is speaking specifically of the betrothal period before a Jewish wedding and if one or the other is found unfaithful in that betrothal period before marriage then this is the time, if unfaithfulness is found then that they then may walk away and not committ to marriage. So if we looked at today the "engagement" period if unfaithfulness is found then one may decide to release from the marital covenant.
I was married for 12 years to my first wife, she left me for another man, that she was having an affair with, 7 years later she filed for a divorce, and now I am happily married to my current wife and we are both Christians
@@marvinguigar3623 I’m sorry to hear that brethren but you and your ex wife are still living in adultery no matter if you’re Christian or not. If you are Christian that is to be Christ like! Christ has one wife the church so you must be like Christ and only take one wife unless the first spouse no longer lives you are bound to the law
God ALMIGHTY HIMSELF will really really really bless you for sharing this very BITTER TRUTH. I was so really blessed. HALLELUJAH TO THE LAMB OF GOD.
its not about happiness in this world but HOLINESS. Picking up your cross and following Jesus, Many do not want to count the cost. Who matters most - Jesus - or self! God's divine law..... from the BEGINNNING. Many don't want to accept it because their fleshly desires take precedence over the teaching of Jesus. . It's so true - many do not believe the truth of God's word. Divorce says I hate you, I don't want to live with you etc. Matthew 18 speaks about forgiveness. We need to follow God's heart loving our spouses, forgiving, having mercy, striving for reconciliation and restoration of one-flesh marriages
@Eddie1952 What if the marriage vows were insincere by both parties? What if before the “marriage” the man was gone all the time during the nights and seemed to be cheating? What if after legally married, the woman found a message from another woman and was kicked out because of saying something and asking for answers? What if 8 years later, she is saved, but he isn’t…. she tries again out of obligation to their son, tells the man he needs to repent, so he puts her out again. Also, during the “marriage” she was kicked out multiple times and officers were involved numerous times and told her to not come back.
@@bailey1493 So sorry to hear this. Marriage is a very serious matter as God loves the church, the Bride of Christ. We are told in the Word about the seriousness of making vows to God and not breaking them. So we need to be very careful who choose to marry. If an unbeliever, we do not have God's wisdom in the matter and go our own way, often to our detriment as many would testify. Once we come to Jesus we know what the Word says and in the situation you mention, we can pray the unsaved spouse will get saved even though we may have even divorced them (nothing is impossible with God as many can vouch for. But 1 Corinthians 7 clearly says, v10,11 if the spouse does depart, do not divorce but remain single . If the husband wants a divorce there's nothing one can do to stop him. v12 tells us about the saved spouse whose spouse decides/wishes to leave. One cannot stop them either and if they decide to divorce or go off, let them. We are called to 'peace'. One day, he/she may just come to repentance, salvation and in some circumstances have the legitimate first marriage restored. If this is you or someone else you know, sounds like you tried your utmost despite all the problems and treatment. God gives us the grace needed for whatever situation we are in as I can so very much testify, being divorced from my second husband for nearly 32 years now! This is what I believe from my understanding/study of the scripture and there is so much to understand on this hot topic of marriage/divorce etc.
Good preaching! Agreed! 🙏
Blessed are you, brother, for preaching the truth and forsaking many of this false teaching of divorce and remarriage which is fornication.
@@danielonyango144 You change God's grace into debauchery, you are in 2 Peter chapter 3 verse 16 part two you turn the scriptures to your mercy
@@danielonyango144 it was a different dispensation...
@@danielonyango144 Good luck on judgement day.
Thy Word 📖is a Lamp unto my feet and a Lamp unto my Path🙏🙏
Excellent!!! Thank you, Pastor!
Not really. He tried to make a big deal out of the fact that Adam only had one wife, yet God gave David multiple wives. I Sam 12:8.
@@danieldeluca4936 but David didn't divorce any of them. Neither did any other old testament patriarch
@@danieldeluca4936 this was not the plan, but, for some reason God overlooked this....
Salvation is a still a mystery. How many times you physically or how many wives you physically does not matter. What matters most is the spiritual marriage. God should be the centre of your love and adoration. Not his wife or wives. Jacob had two wifes and two more concubines. The 12 sons all came from 4 different women. And yet God pronounce Jacob as a of Godly heart. The truth about marriage is that there's no marriage in heaven. What matters is that all believers must marry in the spirit and not only in a physical sense. God is still a mystery and his salvation plan is also a mystery. Look at the thief on the cross, the life of Issac and Jacob. There's an underlying truth here. Yes what truth is revealed to us is for ouyr edification but those that is not revealed belongs to the of Mystery. Jacob married 4 wives .Define wifes and one night stands. Jacob never had prostitutes but legitimate wifes and Jacob is still counted righteous...what do say...marriage in the spirit is what matters most.
@@manevigene6220 Jacob, David and of them were from old testament and the law of Moses and stuff. Look at what Jesus said
Thank you for preaching this. God bless you.
Mervin
(1) By understanding this issue from a chronological perspective we can determine that it was many years after Christ teaching on this matter that the Apostle Paul (while addressing questions submitted to him by the church of Corinth / 1 Cor. 7:1) restricted remarriage for the first time and only under one of the circumstances he enumerates (v. 11). This is the only remarriage restriction following divorce and it proves that prohibiting remarriage is unique in God’s Word. That’s why it’s important to understand biblical facts chronologically (and NOT randomly). That way biblical precedents reveals that keeping people out of marriage was NOT God’s will either. Marriage is the right place for sexual expression and Paul reveals that those formerly married should remarry instead of burn with passion (1 Cor. 7:8, 9).
(2) Some Pastors have put the “horse before the cart” (so to speak) chronologically by reading Paul’s prohibition as if Jesus had already prohibited remarriage. Thus they are theorizing that “remarriage was prohibited” by Jesus when in fact it was not. Believing that rearranges the chronology about when and to what extent remarriage was actually prohibited in God’s Word. It subverts a persons perspective by exchanging the uniqueness of prohibiting remarriage with that of a uniform prohibition. In the New Testament we don’t actually have one exception for remarriage (as some suggest), we only have one exception for prohibiting remarriage.
(3) While the Church should be fully involved in preserving marriages, we should be very careful about coercing those divorced into a life of perpetual singleness. Formerly married Christians have their sexual struggles and 1 Cor 7:8,9 gives them instruction as to what to do. It is best to read those verses in light of the first 7 verses that precede it.
(4) It is worth noting that when Jesus’ teaching is paralleled with the writings of Moses neither men criticize remarriage or blame the innocent party of divorce for the adultery it causes them to commit. Jesus actually revealed that men who insisted on the right to put away their wives were culpable (Matthew 5:32 "causeth her to commit adultery"). The woman divorced in this case scenario was allowed to remarry and was NOT blamed for the ensuing adultery. Jesus uniquely revealed that this adultery was distinct from that of the law and that culpability did NOT reside with her (the one repudiated).
(5) In the Patriarchal society of Israel a man was not allowed to remarry his ex-wife if in the intervening time she remarried. That’s because he caused her to be defiled by releasing her with the right of remarriage (Deut. 24:2,4). The defilement that ensued (like the adultery of Jesus’ teaching) was the inadvertent consequence of violating an exclusive obligation established by the first marriage as God designed from the origin. This way of committing adultery was uniquely different from that which was punished.
(6) While most of Jesus' teaching centers around the fact that men in Israel's Patriarchal society controlled divorce, it is worth noting that He did give a case scenario in the event the wife does the divorcing (Mark 10:12). This scenario helps men repudiated by their wives (particularly in today's culture) understand that they are not always at fault for the divorce or culpable for violating sexual exclusivity when remarried. It is also note worthy that the Apostle Paul gives a New Testament circumstance where the believer is emancipated of all marital obligation. Thus there is NO residual obligations to violate.
(7) In 1 Cor.7:12-15 the Apostle Paul emancipates New Testament believers who are repudiated by unbelievers. This absolves believers from further obligations to the marriage. Christians experience absolution if they are repudiated by an unbeliever. This exemption did not previously exist under the Old Testament, thus causing one to commit adultery by violating an exclusive obligation intrinsic to marriage.
(8) Because my motive for defending marriage after divorce is often misunderstood, I’d like to affirm that believers should strive to honor first marriages. Love your spouse in difficult times and don’t let your own weaknesses be the reason your marriage fails. God did create marriage for life, so do all within your power to make that happen.
(9) In summary of Jesus' teaching on divorce, the question the Pharisees ask Jesus (Matt. 19:3) trivialized marriage and perceived divorce as inconsequential. Therefore Jesus revealed the consequence caused by the first marriage ending prematurely. If they had remained married this way of committing adultery would not occur (which was the point Jesus was making). Divorce causes the paradox Christians grapple with because it is antithetical to God’s creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6, 8b). From the concession of divorce onward the second marriage (which was graciously allowed under the law) inadvertently violated an exclusive obligation set forth by the former. Thus causing the adultery the way Jesus described. An inadvertent adultery caused by the first marriage not being sustained.
(10) It's necessary to understand Jesus and Moses in an agreeable fashion so that Christians don't make their teaching on this issue contradict. When we see the big picture of interpreting them in harmony we understand that divorce and remarriage in God's Word are real and effective events that changed marital status and obligations from the former spouse to the present. Pastors who teach that those remarried should divorce their present spouse has come to that conclusion by believing the "indissoluble marriage" theory, thus imagining that the first marriage survived divorce. That’s NOT what Jesus taught!!
Divorcing your current spouse causes sin, NOT repentance. You MUST believe what Jesus actually said within it's original CONTEXT so that you can rightly divide the Word of Truth. Blessing
@Adam Coles Grace to you Adam
rebellion? You don't agree with a CONTEXTUAL explanation of Jesus and Paul's teaching on this issue?
There seems to be an error in the interpretation "exception clause" as preached in this message.
Here is the best and accurate message on Divorce and Re-marriage - Listen Fully and be guided by it :
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@@nealdoster8556 There seems to be an error in the interpretation "exception clause" as preached in this message.
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why not cut to the chase.....do you think your many words will validate a false teaching....
@@philipbuckley759 Your suppositions are false for interpreting the Lord's teaching on this matter. Short enough?
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At around the 17-18 minute mark, he gets it wrong when he says there is one out- one exception for remarriage. Except for fornication is only for those who have an engagement to be married and the person cheats on you. Once a marriage is made with public vows, it is permanent until death. Divorce + remarriage + living spouse = ongoing adultery.
he did not define fornication....he just mentioned it....
Walking by the Spirit you are Absolutely right
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Hey brother. I have done so many videos on divorce and remarriage adultery, but I was thinking about doing another one just talking about all these false teachers, when you sent me a comment. Maybe it is God's will.
@@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways Go for it Sister. There's plenty of false teachers out there on this issue and not many people are aware. Its a shame really. Some guys like this BJ fellow get it ALMOST right, but then throw one false thing in at the end. John Piper and Voidie Baughman come to mind. They agree remarriage is adultery, but tell people to stay in the 2nd marriage anyway 🤦♂️.. Be blessed Sister, always praying for you. Us standers gotta stick together 🙏💙
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Amen. Thank you, and hopefully Jesus is about to come rapture us up to heaven for our perseverance- Revelation 3:10-11. God bless.
God forgives all of my sin All my iniquities past present and future. As I move forward in my spiritual walk.
it is a nice thought but not sure future sins are covered...
What an idiot shame ok go steal 2mrw you are forgiven what a stupid mind set🙉
BJ, what is this pastor's name and where is he located? I'd really like to get a transcript of this sermon. Thank you for uploading it! God bless you.
B. J. Clarke.
There seems to be an error in the interpretation "exception clause" as preached in this message.
Here is the best and accurate message on Divorce and Re-marriage - Listen Fully and be guided by it :
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@@rll1954 Could you please give me the email id or whatsApp no of Paster B. J. Clarke please. Is he on Facebook ?
His name is Bj Clarke
@@kim-marieseay511type BJ Clarke preacher, and up comes the information....
Remarriage IS adultery when one’s spouse is still living.
Luke 16:18
Mark 10:11-12
Romans 7:3
1 Cor. 6:9-10
The exception clause in Matt. 19:9 is regarding divorce only, NOT remarriage. The pharisees question was regarding divorce, not remarriage.
Further, Jesus was answering their question in response to Moses’s law, not God’s law. Moses made the law because of hard hearts. God never approved that, and it was not so from the beginning.
Mark and Luke specifically state remarriage is adultery. The apostle Paul confirms this in. 1 Corinthians 7:10-11.
Remarriage is the opposite of what God wanted in the case of the Israelites and Hosea and Gomer.
The church teaches that remarriage is justified after infidelity but that is not so. Remarriage is pursued in order to appease one’s own desires. Itching ears twist the scripture (Matt. 19:9) in order to serve self.
Paul was not speaking for himself when he stated that one is bound until death 1 Cor. 7:39.
Reconciliation is what God desires. That is what true forgiveness is.
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I am 64 years old, never lived with anyone, because I believe in God and in marriage. Plann on not married until Jesus brings that special someone. 🙏
I do not believe that Jesus would judge you to remarriage if your widowed.
Widows are permitted in scripture to remarry, for their covenant spouse is deceased.
Well spoken and agree. The Mathew exception many misunderstand and confuse fornication with adultery when they are not the same. Fornication here is for sexual sins while in the Jewish marriage betrothal period before the marriage day which equates to non Jewish engagement period for us. The Jews had the betrothal as a temporary legal marriage state before the wedding day and so any sexual sins in that period is called fornication (pornea) while once married is now called adultery (molchai).
Compare the Greek Septuagint to prove this as true - see Hosea 4:14: "And I will not visit upon your daughters when they shall commit fornication (πορνεύσωσι - pornea), nor your daughters-in-law when they shall commit adultery (μοιχεύσωσιν - molchai)".
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I been looking for his help clinic for those that follow his advice and scriptural understandings. So far nothing. To preach splitting families apart then just walking away is only half of the job. So get busy preacher and start helping those you advise. I know your just telling them what the bible say it's not really you. Never have I seen one of these preachers give a help line for those that follow their teachings. Here is the end result of this sermon, more broken families, newly divorced trying to break up their first spouses family, more blended homes (the children have to go somewhere ) right, possibly putting an abusive spouse back in a home, by the way where do the children go? Please preach a sermon on what would be the most correct way to handle that and take all possible scenarios into account (I'm sure you can find a bible verse for that). Does this sound harsh or just truthful. Remember his words I know this is hard. Really do you?
@Monica Merino
Are you telling me that you are a one eyed one handed sinner? Explain what you are saying.
what advice would you give to a same sex couple.....
@@philipbuckley759
I would tell them to seek qualified Christian counseling. If there are any further questions or comments or whatever it is you are doing, go to standing strong for marriages and read Neal Doster's replies to Isaac. I agree with Neal and he is much better at explaining than me and I have great respect for both of them. I know Neal has replied to your comments apparently to no avail and it is not my position to prove anyone wrong, rather show biblical facts and let the reader decide. Phillip I would recommend you seek counseling for whatever problems you are facing and learn to speak in complete sentences.
Thank you for your reply and I'm not going to answer a question that you already know the answer to.
Hence homosexuality is two people of the same sex and heterosexual is a man and a woman. See the difference? I hope this clears this dilemma up for you as I've seen you ask this question repeatedly.
Biblically God defines a marriage as a man and a woman which would be heterosexual. I'm glad again to help you with this and yet do not understand why you would compare the two totally different relationships that the bible speaks of in totally different ways.
Blessings phillip
Amen Tim
@@remsamhomestead
Blessings and thank you.
Amen!! Nothing but the truth of God!!!
Lose your soul because of remarriage?? The teaching was kinda good until that false statement. Why must Christians be so unbalanced! You don't go to hell for remarriage. Your bordering on cult like teaching
Do you agree with him
@@greggriffin3422 No! Do u?
@@bethr8756 No! I hope you're having a very wonderful day so far! If I may ask what do you think about what he said
@@greggriffin3422 My day is going well. How is yours? Well I'm going to listen again before I reply. What did you think?
@@bethr8756 Having a great day so far! Thanks for asking, Same here i will love to listen before I answer
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I agree with the preacher on everything never knew about Ezra 10, I know so many ppl who are living with the poor choice that they made, Ezra says they divorced the women and sent them and the children away
The phrase'except fornication or adultery" means that woman or man who has been cheated on by his or her marriage partner has the license to divorce and start a new relationship.
@@kasujjamathias8059 no. Even the innocent partner can't remarry.
Matthew 19:9 this commandment excludes those who have been cheated on by their partners.The person who is been cheated on is free to divorce his adulterous husband and remarry like the one whose spouse is dead.Also read 1Corinthians 7:15.
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@@kasujjamathias8059 there is no innocent party....
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I agree with much of what he said but the sermon lacks three key things, love, mercy, forgiveness.
Don't want to hear a sermon without it.
Without giving hope to the sinner these sermons do nothing but give medicine to the unsick.
I have a question, you get married before you become a believer of The Word. You divorce and later you re marry. In your second marriage you believe and confess The Lordship of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 5:17 says old things are gone.. what's the way forward here, because in the first marriage you never even believed in The Word..
I hope someone answers this. My question is somewhat similar 🙏
My first question to you would be do you really want to follow God's Word or do you want to be accepted by others, especially other "Christians"?
I seriously and not facetiously ask this question because sometimes the truth is difficult.
Jesus stated it is adultery to look at someone with lust. Jesus never stated the marital status of the person looking with lust. So even single people could be committing this form of adultery. Not the traditional thought of adultery but adultery none the less according to Jesus. So could we then securely say that adultery is any deviation of one man one woman for life? To anyone throwing stones refer to the above and see if you have met the criteria of adulterer. Did the stone suddenly get heavier? Now the term one flesh many assume it is upon consumation. How about if you are not married? Have you become one flesh, just committed adultery, fornicate, or possibly all of the above. How does a couple become one flesh? You make vows and suddenly you are one flesh? One flesh would certainly make it impossible to separate or could one flesh mean when the couple have children? Biology would certainly bear out the latter. Would it not be very possible an unmarried couple that has children are one flesh? If one were to state that all sexual contact constitutes one flesh would they not be then married to their first mate? What if they had more than one partner would they be polygamous and most certainly adulterous? No one says anything about never officially married that may fall into one of the one flesh categories and decides to get married. Must be okay to be an adulterer, fornicators, polygamous just so you didn't make it official. Now comes a person from a failed marriage and any chance of having another relationship is adultery and perpetual. They can't repent and move forward after their sins have been forgiven and must wait till their eggs are unscrambled. Interesting. Now a divorced person gets married again and is informed they are in a adulterous marriage. They choose to listen to possibly previous adulterers and get divorced again. Wait a minute some of them are possibly one flesh married and then got married making them adulterous polygamous and in judgement of someone who officially divorced. Interesting how complicated it gets when you can't repent and move on.
Is the wife in Matthew 5:31-32 guilty, or innocent of fornication?
AJ Louviere yes she is, if he is to properly divorce her.
@@johnborland7865 this is a very specific question regarding the wife, in Matthew 5:31-32, and her supposed guilt of the cause of fornication.
AJ Louviere fornication is an English word. If we’re going to split hairs we’re going to use the original language. So not fornication, but harlotry is the best translation is the word according to my concordance and is accurate to the Koine Greek, and Aramaic. You may not like it, but that’s the word. And yes if she is to be properly divorced it must be for sexual immorality, or harlotry, not adultery. Because if he’d inadvertently married a close kin, it might be incest for them to remain together, another way to say sexually immoral. Neither one is at fault necessarily, but it’s still sexually immoral. Thus requiring divorce. This occurred more often in the ancient world. Additionally if she was a harlot, he could put her away. My mother is a good example she’s been married 4 times, and slept around on every single one of them. 1 killed himself, 1 died, two she divorced. She could be considered a harlot. So yes she might be guilty of porniea, and she might not have willfully done anything wrong, if the husband made an accusation of incest. Both can be true at the same time.
Just as it’s true that even in your limited reasoning a woman can be defiled by her father raping her, or a man in my case. She is therefore no longer a virgin. She has done nothing committed no crime, yet a man can still consider her defiled.
Further let’s say a man avoids marriage with such a woman who’s committed no crime against him or her agreement to marry him, how is the adulterer any less defiled by having willful sex with someone they aren’t married to? You never answer that question. You’ll talk about how the woman who remarried is defiled, but not the defilement of the unrepentant adulterer. Why are you afraid to answer my questions? I suppose they are too difficult.
@@johnborland7865 the inability to provide a simple yes or no to this question reveals what is actually going on when it comes to the supposed remarriage after a divorce for the cause of adultery. I didn't ask you to do anything except answer this one question. Can you provide an answer to this question?
GOD bless you Pastor!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I love how people look at this and think if they follow this rule they can earn their way into heaven. What then was the point of the cross? Why did Jesus die, if anybody could earn their salvation this way?
Doctrine of devils 1tim 4:1-3 " forbidding to marry "
justkeep'n itreal To be fair Jesus himself taught it’s better not to marry. “Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. But even Moses showed in the burning bush passage that the dead are raised, when he called the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.””
Luke 20:34-38 NKJV www.bible.com/bible/114/luk.20.34-38.nkjv
@@johnborland7865 Jesus is speaking in that text about Heaven not here on earth. Marriage is to avoid fornication. Not everyone has the gift to be a eunuch of the Mind. If you look upon a woman an lust after her you have committed adultery already. So it's better to marry than to burn in lust. God gives mercy when a person is in need. Read Matthew chp12. It's a sin to remarry but if that person can't contain and remarry to avoid the sin of fornication; remember marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled, God can give mercy and count the person guiltless 1cor 7:27-28
justkeep'n itreal lol no dude you’re good. I’m just pointing out these same people condemning remarriage, also condemn me for pointing this out. As if this part of Jesus teaching doesn’t apply or exist. Oh Jesus didn’t mean that! Really now who’s playing justification.
@@johnborland7865 yeah their conscience is seared. You ask them how to receive forgiveness for the sin of remarriage they say divorce. There is No scriptures stating nor suggesting divorce for the sin of remarriage.
Jesus not only told us to not divorce. He referred not to the law of Moses. He referred to the original intention from Genesis two. He also told us what to do should a divorce take place. It is repeated in 1 Corinthians 7:10-11
The divorce and remarriage for adultery doctrine is based solely on the supposed guilt of the wife in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. However, the wife, in the above scriptures, is clearly not guilty of fornication because the Jews (that Jesus was speaking to) were still living under the law, and if fornication was discovered, there was a moral obligation to report the offender according to Deuteronomy 22:13-24. The wife, who would have been found guilty of fornication, was subsequently stoned to death, according to the law, which had still governed the Jews up until Christ's death on the cross. The same for a woman caught in adultery, according to Leviticus 20:10. How could a wife, guilty of fornication, or adultery, under the law of Moses, be given a writing of divorcement and be caused to commit adultery with whosoever marries her, that is divorced? Jesus is clear, in these examples, that the wife is not guilty of fornication, but is still caused to commit adultery if she marries another man now that she is divorced. This is the only way that Matthew 5:31-32, and Matthew 19:9 keep harmony with Romans 7:2-3, and 1 Corinthians 7:39.
Unlike the synoptic gospels of Mark and Luke, which were written to evangelize the Gentiles, Matthew was written to the Jews, and has of 24 characteristics that identify it as intended for the house of Israel.
The ancient Jews called the betrothed (engaged) "husband" and "wife" according to Deuteronomy 22:23-24, Matthew 1:18-25, and Luke 2:5-7.
Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage) was never for fornication or adultery. Allowing those guilty of fornication and adultery to remain living and become a prospect for remarriage was against the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22:13-24 and Leviticus 20:10, which commanded that those who were found guilty of fornication and adultery be put away from Israel, and stoned to death.
The law of Moses was not given to the world, only to the Jews. From the exodus, to Christ's death on the cross, the law of Moses governed the Jewish people. Christ's death on the cross caused the Jews to become dead to the law of Moses, so they could be joined to Christ under a New Covenant. This is what Jesus's fulfillment of the law of Moses, including Deuteronomy 24:1-4 (Moses's precept of divorce and remarriage), means. Paul gave several warnings to Christian believers against keeping the ordinances of law of Moses as justification, over following Christ and his commands under the New Covenant with Christ. Keeping the ordinances of the law is no longer possible, for Israel, and that is why Christ prophesied that the temple would be destroyed. These scriptures make it clear that if you choose the law over Christ, that you must keep the whole law: Romans 7:4, Galatians 3:1-9, Galatians 3:10-29, Galatians 4:1-7, Galatians 4:21-31, and Galatians 5:1-15.
Being unequally yoked to unbelievers is not a cause for divorce, once two become one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, according to 1 Corinthians 7:12-14. Many one-flesh covenant marriages between unbelievers are recognized by God in the scriptures, most notably the marriage covenants between Herodias and King Herod's brother Philip, Potiphar and his wife, Ahab and Jezebel, and Ruth to her deceased husband Mahlon by Boaz when he took her to be his wife.
Some are teaching that 1 Corinthians 7:15 implies that those who are abandoned, by an unbelieving spouse, are "no longer bound" in a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The reason this is in conflict is due to the way some translations word it, which gives it an entirely different meaning, and context. 1 Corinthians 7:15, says, "But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace." As you can see, the actual scripture says "not enslaved" which means that the husband or wife is not enslaved to sin with the unbelieving spouse, and is free to worship Christ in peace. Subsequent translations have changed the words to imply that they nullify the marriage covenant, which is not at all the case. The issue that this creates is with 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, which says, "10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife." As you can see, those who claim 1 Corinthians 7:15 shows the Apostle Paul giving those who are abandoned permission to remarry, do not understand the command that Christ gives is to an abandoned husband, in 1 Corinthians 7:11, and that he "must not divorce" his wife, and his wife is commanded to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" to her husband. The theory that 1 Corinthians 7:15 nullifies two as being one-flesh, due to one's unbelief, puts the Apostle Paul directly at odds with Christ, and himself, by implying that Paul has issued an opposing command to verses 10-14 in verse 15.
Some also teach that 1 Corinthians 7:27-28 is referring to both divorced men and virgin women, and not exclusively to men and women (virgins) who have never been married. This has been falsely taught for some time in churches as referring to anyone who is not currently in a marriage, which, for them, also includes those who are divorced. This is a very false assumption, and puts these verses in a different context, that is at odds with both the teachings of Christ and the apostle Paul. We see Paul refer to virgins, which signifies the unmarried who have never before been wed, which is the proper context here. We see Paul saying clearly that it is good for virgins, which is also speaking to never before wed men here, "that it is good for a man so to be." He goes on to say, "Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife." Who is he referring to here? Men who, like himself, have never married. The word "bound", in these verses, is a clear reference to betrothal (engagement) and not to a one-flesh covenant of marriage. The ancient Jews were considered bound as husband and wife during the betrothal (espousal/engagement) before becoming one-flesh in a covenant of marriage, through consummation. This is affirmed by the context of the term "bound" seen in Numbers 30:14-16.
The Jewish couples in ancient Israel, who were betrothed (engaged) were also bound together until death, either by execution for fornication, or by other causes. Then Paul says, "But and if thou marry, thou has not sinned", which is who? The men who had never married in the congregation at Corinth. So he begins with verses 25-26 speaking exclusively to men that have never married. Paul then says, "and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned", which is speaking directly in regard to virgin women who have never been married, within the congregation, not divorced women. Notice that verse 34 says, "There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband." Paul speaks plainly when he says "there is a difference between a wife and a virgin." Paul goes on to say, "But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry." This is speaking of a virgin who has become of age to bear children when it says, "let them marry." This is a clear command, to a single man, who has taken a virgin to be his wife. Paul then says, "Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well." This is referring again to the single man who decides it is better not to marry, but to stay betrothed (engaged), under the present distress, by saying that he "hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin." Paul then says, "So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better", which again means single men, in the congregation, who have betrothed a wife, do well if they marry, and those who choose not to marry their virgin brides do better, under the current climate. For more proper context of the word "bound", let's look further down in this chapter to verse 39, which says, "39The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord" (1 Corinthians 7:39). For so long, these scriptures, between verses 25-38, have been twisted and used to enable divorce and remarriage, by wayward churches and teachers, and have caused many to stumble and to be trapped in unscriptural unions.
The use of the woman at the well, in regard to marriage, falsely implies that Christ was endorsing remarriage after a divorce. This teaching is in defiance of Matthew 22:23-28, which shows a woman who had been widowed seven times, and entered into each subsequent marriage without any scriptural conflicts with God's law of marriage (one-flesh covenant) seen in Genesis 2:23-24.
Mark 10:1-12 and Matthew 19:1-12 both record Christ's teaching that day beyond the Jordan. There is no mention of the words "fornication", "writing of divorcement", or "divorced" in Mark's Gospel because Mark was not written to the Jews (as Matthew's Gospel was), but to evangelize the Romans, and likewise Luke to evangelize the Greeks, who had no knowledge of the law of Moses in Deuteronomy 22 or Deuteronomy 24. All of these facts draw a clear understanding that remarriage after a divorce, under the New Covenant with Christ, is a scripturally false and baseless teaching. Please use wisdom when living in any situation against what the scriptures command.
You could do the same thing with
"Matthew 5:27-30
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.
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If this is permanently unforgivable sin as well, then literally nobody is going to heaven.
Maybe he's trying to get a point across rather than condemning us with law. He came to forgive not to condemn.
If it isn't possible for someone to have a fresh start after a difficult past, what was the point of Christ's sacrifice? I really think this sort of teaching tragically misses the point and may create more suffering in a world that is already suffering too much.
I pray God helps you to accept His word and truth rather than seek a way to defy it.
@@Calcium-mn9eq Have you plucked your eye out or chopped your hand off yet?
May God help you to stop fighting His truth which is right in front of you.
@@Calcium-mn9eq You don't know my story. My wife cheated on me 3 years ago. I was an asterisk Christian at best back then. I did find Matthew 19:9 and was like: okay, I am good to remarry.
Fast forward to now, I find there is great division on the translation and interpretation of this exception clause.
I definitely get the point that just divorcing someone because you're sick of them is compared to adultery cause it's just cause of lust or whatever.
But I'm dealing solely with the exception and even there, there's great division on this.
It's very difficult to truly find peace about it.
@@derekgeorgeandrews I am so sorry about what you've been through.
In truth, the exception to divorce is sexual unfaithfulness; nevertheless, to remarry is adultery.
What Jesus said according to the four gospels is made even clearer by Paul in 1Corinth 7:10-11 (...must remain unmarried or be reconciled to your original spouse).
Some things happen in our lives that put us in a disadvantaged or seemingly disadvantaged position; it could be our own mistake or the mistake of another person. But we must deny ourselves and suffer for the sake of Christ and the kingdom of God.
If I may ... have you tried to reconcile with your wife? Is she deeply sorry for her wrongdoing and willing to do right by you henceforth?
I really understand you, and I pray with all the love in me that God will grant you the grace to accept His word and the peace that you need.
I love you, Derek, and God loves you. I pray you know this.
Be blessed.
Christendom is a total wreck especially where marriage is concerned.
Let's say a secular or nominally christian person gets badly hurt by their first spouse and divorces.
Then they turn their heart to Christ earnestly and fervently for the rest of their lives.
They meet someone and wish to remarry, raise kids in the church and help pick up the pieces of our shattered culture.
But there are some who would say: "Too bad, you have to be celibate forever."
Is that a message of grace, renewal and healing, or a message of condemnation?
Nope THAT IS JUST THE TRUTH..
HARD BUT TRUTH.
@@triciaperry2234 capital letters do not constitute an argument.
Do you believe someone has to be married in order to experience God's grace?
The Pharisees posed a legal question to Jesus (Matthew 19:3. Mark 10:2). Instead of getting caught up in the legal argument of that time, Jesus circumvented that argument by appealing to how it was suppose to be. He appealed to God’s creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6, 8b). Ideally and by God’s design marriage was to be lifelong, realistically (because of hard hearts) it was allowed to prematurely end. Accepting the tension that creates is part of understanding this issue.
Jesus words were applicable to whom He was speaking. He was speaking to His covenant people Israel. When contextually understood He was conveying to them the inadvertent consequence of the divorce concession. This He did to dissuade them from putting away their wives. When Jesus speaks to divorce and remarriage He is speaking of them as effective events (as all biblical writers do). The answer Jesus gave to the Pharisees question (Matthew 19:3, Mark 10:2) was derived from God’s original creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6,8b), not the law of Moses.
We should understand Moses and Jesus congruous, not as one opposed to the other. Jesus’ teaching on this issue is pointing out to His covenant people that allowing divorce was not without it’s casualty. Allowing marriages to end violates (in principle) God’s lifelong creative design. Moses allowed divorce primarily because of women caught up in domestic conflict, it was a mercy for them. Subsequently he didn’t force them into a life of singleness because they were put away, he allowed them to remarry. Having a husband allowed them to have the provisions they would need, so remarriage was a gracious concession also (Deut. 24:4).
It’s imperative we understand that Jesus is not speaking negatively against divorce as a concession, but rather negatively about the reason divorce needed to be conceded. The concession itself was not a mistake on Moses part as some suggest. Jesus was not criticizing Moses, He was being critical of that which prompted the need for the concession. Jesus blatantly reveal to the Pharisees that the reason for the concession was an accommodation of Israel’s hard heart (Matthew 19:8). Hard hearts ultimately were the cause of marriages being terminated which in turn caused the exclusivity of the one-flesh union to be transgressed. This causes the adultery the way Jesus described.
Always read God’s Word with the understanding that Moses didn’t contradict Jesus or Jesus didn’t contradict Paul. Read God’s Word with a congruous understanding of all who spoke to this issue. Both Jesus and Paul gave extenuating circumstances when they spoke to this issue. Jesus as He addressed His covenant people Israel told them “except for fornication” (Matthew 19:9) which is a comprehensive word for illicit sex. Paul speaking to the Church stated that a believer is not under bondage if the unbelieving spouse repudiates the marriage (1 Cor. 7:15). Paul addressed different circumstances throughout chapter 7. He didn’t give a one size fits all conclusion for every situation. Verses 10 and 11 address a believer married to a believer.
Paul then has a change of address in verse 12 (something others conveniently leave out). There he speaks to a situation were a believer is or was married to an unbeliever. If an unbeliever repudiates the marriage, the believer is no longer under bondage. “no longer under bondage” is an explicit phrase the speaks of emancipation. They are free from former obligations. Don’t let anyone convince you that Paul gave a “one size fits all” conclusion in verses 10 and 11 when in fact he spoke to different situations.
Can you share your email plz?
@@fionamelissa2002 Grace to you Fiona
I prefer not to give out my personal info on the internet. Do you have a question about divorce and remarriage?
You can be hypothetical if you like. Blessings
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Blessings Neal
Reading John 5 46-47 affirms we should read scriptures in a congruous manner as you have stated many times.
Those promoting DTR are actually making up their own laws rather than drawing from scripture. How many time have we heard Jesus over rode Moses in the New Testament. God is holy and immutable.
Ephesians 4:11
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
There are no legitimate reasons for divorce and remarriage. It is important to know the context of a Jewish marriage as you study. (Matthew 1:18-25) Remember Mary was espoused to Joseph and the engagement was so binding as to call her his wife. They had not taken their vows yet which is when the marriage is official. Joseph was going to put her away for what looked like fornication but was told to take her as his wife.
Matthew 19:9 Jesus says except for the cause of fornication can a man put away his wife. Notice in the verse the words fornication and adultery. They are not the same thing. The word for fornication is porneia which means harlotry. This is sex outside of marriage. The word for adultery is moichao which is to commit adultery. For the cause of adultery you cannot put away your wife, but only for the cause of fornication in the engagement period.
Many would ask well if I got married before I became a Christian does God honor that as a marriage? Yes. The Bible speaks in 1 Corinthians 7 about staying with the unbelieving spouse and if the unbelieving spouse wants to depart, then let them depart. 1 Corinthians 7:39 says the wife is bound by the law as long as her spouse is alive.
Marriage is honorable even among the heathen. Hebrews 13:4 says marriage is honourable in all. If you took vows to marry someone being unsaved or saved then you are married to that person until death do you part. If you remarry and are not a widow then you are in adultery. 1 Corinthians 6:9 says that no adulterer will inherit eternal life. I used to have some wrong views about this topic but thanks be to God for leading me in the light of His Word. This teaching of divorce and remarriage is encouraging disobedience to God's Word and many will go to hell as adulterers. My sincere desire is for people to know God, walk in obedience to His Word, and make it to heaven.
Shane Jensen porneia is a broad term word for all illicit sex including adultery therefore yeshua used it to cover all illicit sex acts while married
Lorenzo Adamson moichao is the word for adultery. It is different than porneia which means harlotry. The Bible is very specific on the words used as It is all inspired. There is no broadness when not one jot or tittle will fail from the Word. When I think about broad I think about wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction.
Shane Jensen when I look up the definition of fornication it leads to the Greek word porneia which covers a wide range of sexual immorality acts including adultery so that's what I believe ...I dont know where your definitions come from but I have read multiple definitions
Lorenzo Adamson the definitions come from the Strong's Concordance. Did you look up the word used for adultery in Matthew 5:32, in the Strong's Concordance? Moichao=adultery
Shane Jensen I understand that so let me ask you this...if you came home and found your mate having sex with a dog you have to stay in that marriage ?
All Truths are parallel and sometimes truth hurts but it’s for our corrections etc Isn’t God good and full of Grace? Of course He is. Praise nd Glory be to His Name alone.
This guy drops the ball on the exception clause. Fornication in Mathew 5:32/19:9 is referring to the betrothal period. And a couple in a covenant marriage DO NOT commit Fornication when they cheat or remarry. They commit Adultery. 2 separate words with different meanings. That is why no exception is found in Luke 16:18, Mark 10:11-12, 1 Cor. 7, Romans 7:1-3
Awakened Won Amen...
People refuse to study the word of God and they make elementary school children errors because those words are two different words
Wrong - that's an old fallacy long disproven from the word - how can they divorce if they weren't married.
Prince Darius and company- You both are wrong. Porneia is the greek word for fornication = sexual inmorality in general. That include incest, bestiality, homosexuality and adultery. This crimes were punished by death by the Mosaic law. Same for the betrothal period.
The jewish custome for marriage was like this: betrothal period (as a civil marriage) was a legally bonding law and the two were considered married except they didnt have sex until one year later when the second part of the ceremony was celebrate.
1) Was Jesus speaking of the betrothal period ONLY? As Matthew was written mostly for Jews?
2) Was Jesus talking about sexual inmorality in general? Including adultery, incest, bestuality and homosexuality as well?
Those are the 2 views discussed on this topic.
Do your homework!
Yes yes yes - exactly. So frustrating to hear this pastor not know the difference between formulation and adultery. So sad
@@raquelgutierrez1030 Well said! These people have to consider the ramifications of what they are saying. If what they are claiming were true, then a man who breaks off his engagement to his betrothed, when she has not committed porneia, somehow caused her to commit adultery, which is ludicrous!
THIS MAN I CALLED BY GOD.HE IS TEACHIMG SCRIPTURE & IS NOT ADDING TO IT OR TAKING AWAY FROM IT. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A PREACHER TO TEACH SCRIPTURE VERBATIM FROM THE BIBLE!
Scripture clearly teaches anyone who divorces and remarries while their covenant spouse is still living (with the exception of fornication) is an adulterer or adulteress (Matthew 5:31-32; Matthew 19:3-9; Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18; Romans 7:2-3; 1 Corinthians 7:10-15; 1 Corinthians 7:39).
Additionally, scripture clearly teaches in order to receive God's mercy one must repent or they won't inherit the kingdom of Heaven (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Luke 13:3).
God saves anyone who genuinely repents. Repentance has two elements: Confessing AND forsaking our sins.
Proverbs 28:13, says: "He who covers his sins will not prosper, but whoever confesses AND forsakes them will have mercy."
Remaining in an adulterous remarriage is not repentance.
The liar has to repent and stop lying; the thief has to repent and stop stealing; the homosexuals have to repent and stop committing homosexual acts; and the adulterers and adulteresses (including those in adulterous remarriages) must repent and stop committing adultery.
Sharing the scriptural truth about divorce and remarriage infuriates people who are supposed to be followers of Christ. Jesus's words regarding this issue anger his alleged followers like no other topic. Perhaps, it's time to obey Jesus Christ, and to begin believing He means what He says.
Most importantly, ALL sins are unforgivable without repentance...including remaining in adulterous remarriages. According to the clear, easy to understand words of scripture: Jesus most definitely sends unrepentant adulterers and adulteresses to hell.
Randy Nethery so one has to be sinless to be saved?
No! There are gender distinctions that you have clearly overlooked.
@@johnborland7865 if one were sinless one would not need a savior.....
Im sure all the ppl in this thread claiming they have a "covenant" went to their state official and got a marriage governed my state law and not imagination. Please stop making things up. You cannot make up terms for a contract that you are not a party to...
@@johnborland7865 that's not what he's saying. Read it again
Did Moses Prescribe Divorce ... Mt. 19:7 Courageous To Move ON . Amen 😘🙏
Some are tying to say that fornication ("porneia" in greek) only applies to the unmarried, and that Jesus (Mat 5:32) was talking to those yet to be married. Here is why that is not true.
The word for porneia in it's meaning (greek, as our new testament is translated) does not imply (a single, one, not married, or the like). Porneia covers homosexual, heterosexual, beastiality, incest, adultery, pedophilia, it is a generic word used for sexual misconduct. In Rev 2:20-22 Adultery falls under the category of sexual immorality "porneia". In 1 Cor 5:1 there is adultery but the bible uses "porneia". Just because adultery has it's own Greek definition does not mean it can't be included under fornication "porneia". That's like saying lust has it's own Greek definition but can't fall under the category of sin.
Christ was speaking to those still under the Law given to Moses, as the passage proves.
31 "The law of Moses says, ’If anyone wants to be rid of his wife, he can divorce her merely by giving her a letter of dismissal.’ 32 But I say that a man who divorces his wife, except for fornication, causes her to commit adultery if she marries again. And he who marries her commits adultery."
Matthew 5:31-32 (TLB)
Fornication was indeed sexual intercourse before marriage, ie, "FORNICATION". Which word not have included ADULTERY.
For under the same law, ADULTERERS would have been STONED to death.
@@earnestlycontendingforthef5332 Under the same law those who were betrothed before marriage were also stoned as this was considered adultery as well. Thanks for proving my point.
Ok well Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you commit adultery in your heart and it would be titer to cut out your eye and end yer heaven named than hell whole. SO IF THATS THE CASE THEN IF A SPOUSE LOOKS AT A ANOTHER YOU CAN DIVOCE!? No makes no sense.
@@christopherjordan6237 Whether it is adultery in the heart or adultery in the flesh in each case we need to repent for lusting or having sex with another one's spouse. The passage of "lusting with the heart" is a message of repentance, cutting off (not literally) but repenting most definitely.
@@christopherjordan6237
Why are you shouting? When you take new testament scripture out of harmony with old testament it opens a world filled with supposition and misunderstanding. Take the time to read mark bullen concerning divorce and remarriage also Marcionian teaching. To those that refuse to even look, ignorance is bliss and if that is the case go be happy.
Thank you preacher for your wonderful sermon. You have brought out the truth as it is given in the Bible, however you have not touched on abandonment and abuse. These days spouses can work in different places,either abroad or even overseas. What happens when one spouse goes away and decides not to come back,both believers, both Christians, 1 year,2 years,5 years,10 years ,20 years....what should the remaining spouse do ? Apostle Paul said a wife must not depart from her husband,if she does,she must come back,what if she doesn't come back,is the husband still bound in such a marital relationship ?
A spouse theatens you with death everytime you have misunderstandings, even to the extend of holding a knife at you ,must you wait until she stabs you ,for you to know that the relationship is untannable,that if one would have survived the incident.
Btw @:40 He attacks evolution by making up a term. Lying for Jesus isn't needed...
Hi Fred
While I don't agree with all of this pastors conclusions, I didn't get your point. He ask two hypothetical questions that definitely has relevance. They center around the existence of God. If God exist or not makes all the difference in the world.
What term did he make up?
What lie did he tell?
"THE BIBLE DOES NOT NEED MUCH EXPLAINING THAN MUCH BELIEVING" ❤🙏
amen to this....
I believe there are no exception to remarry while your spouse lives math 19 verse 9 is talking about someone who finds out his wife was not a virgin he was not force to continue his engagement no where in scripture does it say remarry if you been cheated on it only talks about remarriage when your spouse dies
The penalty for adultery is death. So to follow God’s law I should kill my remarried ex wife so I can remarry?
Be Ye HOLY Right, so since I can’t be a eunuch I should kill her pursuant to the law?
Be Ye HOLY I forgave her years ago before she got remarried and had children with her new husband. However it’s been years and I’m tired of waiting for her to die. God commanded the punishment for adultery was to put her to death. So I was waiting for God to end her life, but it’s been a decade and I’m tired of waiting I’ve been alone for a decade. I’m tired of waiting. I guess God’s plan according to this teaching is that she needs to die so I don’t become an adulterer like her.
I just want to make sure that’s the teaching God commands according to you.
@@johnborland7865 I think someone else would do the honor, for you....
Philip Buckley so I have to wait on someone else to do it. Ok. Well whatever I’m probably better off alone. Hopefully God comes quickly, or at least ends my service soon. I tire of this life.
I’m reminded of how David took his with, Saul’s daughter, from her second husband because she was still David’s wife.
If you base your interpretations of Yeshua's and Rabbi Shaul's words from the NT alone, you are building on the wrong foundation.
Everything those men taught came from the Torah, God's Instructions to His children on how to worship God, live, and treat each other AFTER coming into His Family.
There is only ONE instruction on divorce and remarriage in Torah, Deut 24:1-4. THERE IS NO SIN OF DIVORCE.
The sin, the abomination to God, is for a person to REMARRY the SAME person after being divorced from that person.
Yeshua was clarifying how to walk out Torah in Matthew; He was speaking to the religious leaders who wanted to know if He subscribed to the school of Hillel or the school of Shammai who had different ideas of what an "indecency" was from the Deut. passage. (BTW, this canNOT be adultery as the punishment for adultery was death.)
When you all quote Paul from Corinthians you are forgetting that's HIS ideas, NOT Torah, which he so CLEARLY delineates at the beginning of the passage!
Those saying divorce is a sin and those saying you can't remarry are being just like the pharisees of Yeshua's day putting a non-Biblical burden on the people, ie the Traditions of Men Yeshua so vehemently fought against.
Those that are saying that a divorced person can marry another without committing adultery are in direct contradiction to Jesus, just as the lie the man in this video is teaching others.
@@ajlouviere202 ,,,what are you going to do about it besides lie???? Thats all u have is a steep pile of nothing...
@@LuxeprivaeMedia
Teachings on Marriage
1Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.4The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 6But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.7For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
10And unto the married I command, yetnot I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. (1 Corinthians 7:1-11)
@@LuxeprivaeMedia do you have any scriptures that refute Jesus's definition of adultery?
@@ajlouviere202 @AJ Louviere Oddly enough a divorced person is.... wait for it....SINGLE,,,,,,, Therefore cannot by definition be committing adultery. You have already been told this several times yet keep parroting the same Nonsense. Repeating the same lie and ignoring the facts will not make them true.....
YOU CANNOT REMARRY IF YOUR SPOUSE IS STILL LIVING AND YOU ARE DIVORCED AND THEY ARE ALSO.ONLY IN DEATH! HEBREWS 13:4
Excatly
If you divorce them, they're not your spouse anymore.
Nowhere does Matthew 5 say you can divorce for fornication. It is talking about blame for adultery, not permission to divorce.
RobertMOdell what do you mean?
@@nathanyates5576 read the scripture....it says....causes her to commit adultery.....the idea is that she would remarry.....thus comitting adultery...
JESUS USES WORDS 'FORNICATION' AND 'ADULTERY' INTERCHANGEABLY
Revelation 2:20-22, "Because you allow that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds."
Fornication also means any and all 'sexual immorality' which a married person can be guilty of.
@@connectionmagazine320 not in the context of Mathew 19 it doesn't. There it's referring to the Jewish betrothal period before marriage. Mathew is written to Jews, which is why the so called "fornication clause" isn't repeated in Luke 16, or Mark 10, or 1 Corinthians 7:10-11, or Romans 7:1-3. They are all written to Gentiles so no betrothal period was practiced. So there is no fornication clause After you are married. Thus there are no grounds for divorce (That was Jesus's whole point) and certainly no grounds for remarriage after divorce.
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Jesus was answering a crowd of Jewish men regarding those who were "married" and getting divorced. He was not just addressing those betrothed.
Isaiah 53:5, he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, we just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in water for the removal of sins and filled with the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38! Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled and rising again from the dead and walking in the newness of life. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man, be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritans. Our salvation has to match up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, And they continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. Don't get Titus 3:5 mixed up with James 2:14-26, about WORKS. One is a WORK of your OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS OR GOOD DEEDS and the other is a WORK OF FAITH. Titus 1:16, They profess that they know God; but in WORKS they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. God bless you.
Nobody ever wants to reconcile this teaching with the verse in Deuteronomy where it says that the husband cannot take back the first wife once she's been married again. If your interpretation of scripture does not agree with the whole Bible then you probably need to reconsider your interpretation. Everything he says about divorce is 100% correct but nowhere can you reconcile the teaching that you should leave your spouse that you were married to once you've been remarried. Once the sin has been committed you can't uncommit it. You can't unscramble eggs.
Only heretics say you cant unscramble eggs. Follow Jesus, not Moses and get some discernment. Do you keep all of Moses laws???? If not you are cursed...Cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree...See Mathew 19:8, Genesis 2:24, 2 Corinthians 3:13....In the real Bible....the KJV
Luke 16:14-18
14And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
15And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
16The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
17And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
18Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery
Billy (Goat) Graham is the one who coined the phrase "you can't unscramble eggs.".....He never preached the truth on this topic. He was a friend of the world and an enemy of God.
AMEN!!!!!
@@mustardseedist Jesus NEVER commanded someone to violate the Law of Moses, and if He had, He would have discredited Himself in front of the Pharisees, who would have loved nothing better than to paint Him out to be a liar.
I don’t understand the story about the woman meeting the man at the pool. It seems to me the second marriage is adulterous simply because she had been married before and her first husband was still living.
Stephen W. Wilcox in reference to Jesus in Matthew 5:31,32 says “He has in this passage of Scripture, abrogated the Moses allowance for divorce and remarriage, which allowed the woman to remarry after divorce if she wished to do so (Deut. 24:1-4).”
The abrogation supposition imagines Moses as the villain for divorce by allowing it against God’s will. That’s why it’s referred to as “Moses allowance for divorce and remarriage.” Stephen imagines Jesus opposing and reversing this concession thereby abrogating it. Then in this make believe world divorce and remarriage becomes ineffective at that point. The imagination takes you any where you want to go with this issue, unlike scripture, it has no bounds. By claiming Jesus abrogated the divorce concession Stephen has positioned himself to believe other supposition. He believes that marriages no longer end.
“Indissoluble marriage” advocates are so bent on defining the adultery of divorce and remarriage with their definition, they fail to see the simple reality that adultery can occur another way. For them Jesus is no longer describing an adultery that’s a result of divorce and remarriage but rather an adultery that results from the absence of these events. Do you see the difference? Can you see how the word of God can be altered by adding information to it? Can you see how Jesus’ teaching on divorce is changed by ignoring His very words? Words have meaning, when you mentally discard them as Stephen does you have changed “the means to an end.” You have altered the very factors that resulted in the conclusion Jesus made.
Stephen’s propositional statement (above) contains an important fact that most views on this issue acknowledge, the divorced were allowed to remarry (Deut. 24:2). Both divorce and remarriage were legally binding. Thus they were not in violation to the law that governed Israel. This acknowledgement allows us to begin from a mutual understanding and biblical precedents. Remarriage was tolerated, had legitimacy, was a binding marriage and divorce actually dissolved the first marriage. These realities must be deconstructed in order to postulate the idea of “indissoluble marriage” Stephen propagates. Stephen’s way of doing that is by convincing us that Jesus “abrogated the Moses allowance for divorce and remarriage.” Abrogation is added to scripture and the sequence of events that result in the adultery Jesus described is altered. Divorce and remarriage from Stephen’s perspective are no longer real realities as Jesus spoke of them. Consequently Stephen is putting forth the belief that unlike in the Old Testament divorce and remarriage no longer occurs, is ineffective and therefore no longer changes the marital status of those involved.
To affirm this let’s look at some propositional statements advocated by Stephen. Let’s look at where supposition leads. By contrast remember that Jesus’ teaching doesn’t advocate the following (below) convictions if understood within it’s original context. We would then have every reason to oppose the following illusions (below) masquerading as Truth. The “abrogation supposition” is the theory that Jesus abolished the Old Testament divorce concession which in turn made divorce impossible.
Stephen Wilcox, a prominent pastor in the Permanence of Marriage Movement reiterates these propositional statements by believing the “abrogation” supposition. He is summarizing the position of some early Church leaders in his message, “Restoration of Christian Marriage”. So these propositions represents what he believes also.
* “Death alone terminates the marriage covenant”
* “Marriage survives remarriage and precludes it”
* “Marriage is a lifelong covenant that will never be invalidated by God while both parties live”
* “A marriage is for life. No matter what a spouse turns out to be, or how they may act, what they do or don’t do, or the sins they commit, the covenant remains fully in effect. A remarriage while a former spouse lives is not marriage at all, but sinful adultery. God does not divide the one flesh relationship except by physical death”
* “It is necessary therefore to warn those who have remarried while a former spouse lives that they are in a continuing state of adultery according to the scriptures, and must repent of it by confessing that sin and vacating that relationship”
While Stephen should be admired for defending the sacredness of marriage it is imperative that you understand the difference between what he is postulating and what Jesus actually said. Stephen is actually claiming the opposite of both Christ and scripture. All because he imagines Jesus doing something He didn’t do. It is imperative that you remain objective when interpreting scripture. There are ramifications for altering the words of Christ. Stephen’s conclusions will cause a conflict between Jesus and Moses, between Old Testament and New. This should be a hint that something is amiss.
In contrast to Jesus, Stephen creates the illusion that the adultery of divorce and remarriage is not the adultery of divorce and remarriage, it’s that simple. He doesn’t differentiate between the adultery Jesus describes and the adultery of being unfaithful while married. If you actually end up concluding the opposite of what Jesus said, you pervert the text. If you believe Jesus abolished divorce, you thereby have been programmed to believe the conclusions advocated by Stephen above. It sets you on a trajectory of claiming all the propositions stated by Stephen as if they were true. The bottom line is, Stephen and all who think like him have came to their conclusions by adding to God’s Word. This is no different than the Pharisees who opposed Jesus. By adding their rules to the law of Moses, they made the law more stringent for others and more lenient for themselves.
I writing this in hope the reader will gain an understanding of the issue of divorce and remarriage from it’s chronological unfolding. This way of interpreting this issue will be different from those who pick out a New Testament verse and builds a new starting point from it. The new starting point often causes the interpreter to dismiss relevant factors in biblical history that wouldn’t support their conclusion. This is why “abrogation” becomes necessary. If you’re going to make claims the bible doesn’t make you have to convince others that former factors found in the bible have changed. Simply put, a right interpretation must maintain biblical truth as it flowed from Moses to Jesus to Paul. To have an understanding of this issue as it historically unfolded is paramount. To understand Paul’s teaching on this issue we must properly understand Jesus who spoke before him. To understand Jesus we must maintain Old Testament truth set forth by Moses. Paul speaks to what Jesus spoke of and Jesus speaks to what Moses spoke of. We should never believe they contradicted each other. The right interpretation will maintain truth from Moses to Jesus to Paul.
Conversely, some have concluded from Jesus’ teaching that “remarriage is adultery” and therefore must be repented of. How? By divorcing their present spouse. Their suppositions create a conflict with biblical precedents because Moses spoke of remarriage as the marriage to whom one was obligated. Therefore a harmonious interpretation of all the biblical writers on this issue cannot be achieved if one is allowed to add (false) suppositions to what Jesus said. These suppositions come from rewording the words of the Lord so that there is no difference between the adultery Jesus described and the adultery that was punished in the Old Testament. While adultery always speaks of infidelity, it does not always transpire the same way. Nor was the culpability for this transgression placed on the women who was divorced by their husband. Therefore you must be open to a view that defends what Jesus actually said over against false supposition. Please note...
I’m not arguing against the fact that adultery ensues because of divorce and remarriage, although I do believe there are extenuating circumstances given by Jesus and Paul. I’m arguing for HOW Jesus describes the adultery and the PROPER response to it. I’m arguing for a congruous view of Old and New Testament, no need to make them contradict. No need to try to convince others that Old Testament truths are not relevant to New Testament understanding. I believe if you follow a chronological unfolding of this issue you will properly understand Paul’s New Testament instruction in 1 Corinthians 7. If you don’t, then others will tell you what Paul meant in the vacuum of biblical history and the introduction of extra-biblical suppositions.
Most Christians don’t know why adultery follows divorce. It just doesn’t make sense because of their fixed definition for it. They believe adultery only occurs within marriage. That fixed definition doesn’t allow them to grasp that Jesus reveals that adultery entails more than being unfaithful while married. Therefore many of them have come up with theories such as “indissoluble marriage” or “still married in God’s eyes” or “a marriage covenant can’t be broken” or “the one-flesh union can’t be separated except by death” in order to explain the ensuing adultery. None of these theories follow the actual words of the Lord for He is describing the premature end of a marriage, the separating of the one-flesh union, and the consequence of covenant breaking, all which are true in God’s eyes. In God’s eyes scripture is true the way it reads. Don’t let anyone fool you by saying that scripture reads one way but “in God’s eyes” it’s another.
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The aforementioned theories are ways for some expositors to explain the ensuing adultery. It is imperative that you (the reader) realize that once you create a supposition, particularly a false one, that supposition will have deceptive ramifications. False suppositions change biblical perception and takes the mind into ideas that are a figment of the imagination. The whole conflict among Christians is an argument for or against figments of the imagination created by those (like Stephen) who believe Jesus did something He didn’t do. For example, if anyone can convince a divorced and remarried individual they are not actually divorce and remarried, their mind will automatically default to the idea of “indissoluble marriage”. This will create the illusion that they are still married to their first spouse and therefore they are “in God’s eyes” merely having an affair to which they should end. The first supposition produced the need for another and then postulates a suppositional remedy, one must “divorce to repent” (DTR) of the “affair.” All of this would be rational if the supposition is true. Get the picture?
You may be one who follows that reasoning. If so, you need to understand the opposite view of believing that divorce and remarriage are effective events that actually change the marital status of those who experience it. You need to understand that Christ’s conclusions are based in a real and effective divorce and remarriage, conversely Stephen’s conclusions (above) are based in the belief that divorce and remarriage is ineffective, see the difference. One interpretation flows out of the Old Testament and is in harmony with it, and the other puts you on a collision course with the Old Testament.
The DTR camp teaches that Jesus “abrogated/abolished” the Old Testament divorce concession in order to explain how adultery ensues from Jesus’ teaching. The irony is “abrogation” is a supposition itself. They interject abrogation into the text because they need someway to defend their belief that adultery only occurs within marriage (their fixed definition for adultery). Following that SUPPOSITION they teach that divorce is no longer possible (another supposition). Most of them will qualify that belief by saying “in God’s eyes” (another supposition) divorce is no longer possible. Consequently they have created the mental illusion that marriage is indissoluble or the idea of “indissoluble marriage”.
But the truth is, that was not Jesus’ argument at all. Jesus specifically spoke of an adultery that was the result of divorce and remarriage, not the imaginary absence of those effective events. It is imperative that you realize the distinction between the views and HOW they drawn there conclusions. This post is to help you discriminate between the two. So the relevant question for you to consider is, does the adultery Jesus described happen because divorce and remarriage is now ineffective?
DTR suppositions are actually changing the very facts in which Jesus describes this manner of adultery. They miss a very important detail in Christ debate with the Pharisees (Matt.19, Mark 10). In that dialogue Jesus makes a retrospective indictment against Israel for causing this manner of adultery. By insisting on the right to divorce Jesus reveals to His covenant people that they were transgressing God’s design for marriage. I will speak more on this later.
If you overlook the fact that Israel had been committing this manner of adultery since their insistence on divorce, you will then see it as something new, as if Jesus caused it by something He did. You will miss the fact that this adultery was caused by hard hearts hundreds of years before the coming Christ. The theory of abrogation actually alters what Jesus revealed to Israel and it’s historic relevance to them. If you omit it’s historic relevance to Israel you will then try to explain it some other way. This is where suppositions arise, the expositor is not able to account for this adultery in the Old Testament. That oversight will then present the need for the expositor to explain the adultery, thus they formulate the aforementioned suppositions.
Explaining the adultery other than Jesus’ description is the origin of the conflict in Church history. Don’t read any further until you process that. If you want to understand why Christians have multiple interpretations about the Lord’s teaching, you must understand what your conclusion would be with and without false suppositions. You must realize the difference “abrogation” makes. The relevant question for all is, is the adultery of divorce and remarriage (as described by Jesus) something new to the New Testament? If not, then all the theories that produces the “divorce to repent” supposition are deception. All the propositions reiterated by Stephen (above) is a figment of his and early church fathers imagination. The result of the mental deception exacerbates divorce and destroys established families. Therefore some Christians have produced a remedy for this adultery that is not only extra-biblical, it is anti-biblical. No one in all of scripture taught those remarried to repent of their marriage, no one.
Let me pause to say that I know I’m not going to change the mind of the hard line legalist. But for those who are striving to objectively understand and explain this issue, seeing “indissoluble marriage” as false will eliminate the need to postulate other suppositions. Once false suppositions are exposed, there will be no reason to advocate that established families should be dissolved or the “divorce to repent” supposition itself. The best way to keep from following false suppositions is to realize that Jesus was addressing an age old problem. He reveal to His covenant people Israel that they caused this manner of adultery by insisting on the right to discard their wives. This manner of adultery is not something new, nor was there a new remedy issued by Christ or any other New Testament Author. There was no actual conflict between Jesus and Moses. These representatives of God should be interpreted congruously.
In the dialogue between Jesus and the Pharisees, Jesus uses the phrase “from the beginning it was not so” to explain the WHY of the adultery He describes, it had nothing to do with the abolishment of divorce. It had everything to do with the reality of an effective divorce. In context Jesus was explaining to Israel that their hard hearts (by insisting on divorce) yielded this manner of adultery. Do you understand if you remove an effective divorce from Jesus’ description you are changing what He described? Are you seeing what supposition (if believed) does to this issue?
In context Jesus used the phrase “from the beginning it was not so” (Matt. 19:8) to prove to the Pharisees that divorce is antithetical to God’s idea for marriage. The DTR camp instead claims that Jesus by using that phrase took us back to the time before divorce and then and there abolished it. From supposing on that phrase they claim Jesus abrogated the Old Testament divorce concession, a supposition itself. Do you (the reader) understand that false suppositions are figments of the imagination being defended as TRUTH? Do you understand that these suppositions are foundational to the “divorce to repent” deception? Do you understand there is no abrogation of the law of Moses in Jesus’ teaching?
Jesus’ counter argument against those who were defending divorce for every reason (Matt. 19:3) was an appeal to their calloused conscience (harden heart). He revealed to them that divorce staged one to commit adultery by default, defaulting on God’s creative design for marriage (Matthew 19:4-6,8b). Jesus explained that marriage sets forth the obligation to CLEAVE (v.5), therefore having an obligation of lifetime fidelity. In other words when a man and woman enter into marriage they are inherently obligated to a lifetime of fidelity to each the other. What would happen if they did not fulfill that obligation?
(Continued in the reply thread).
The simple truth Jesus revealed to Israel was that the obligation inherent in marriage (exclusive intimacy) is violated by divorce and remarriage. The catch 22 is that divorce and remarriage transgresses the principle of exclusivity while forming another husband wife relationship, thereby causing the adultery in the manner Jesus described. Divorce and remarriage produces both a transgression and a transference of marital obligation. This is the dilemma it caused Israel then and the Church today. But the dilemma turns into an enigma when biblical precedents are dismissed by believing remarriage is no longer possible. Or to put it another way, by believing this adultery occurs because the first marriage “survived divorce”.
In the Patriarchal society of Israel men were causing their wives to commit adultery by defaulting on the principle of cleaving as explained by Jesus and “the law of her husband” as explained by Paul (Romans 7:2b). These women inadvertently but consequently violated these obligations set forth in marriage. Jesus makes no indictment against the innocent party whatsoever. There was an innocent party and they inadvertently were defiled because of unloving husbands (Deut.24:4).
Unlike DTR advocates, Jesus’ criticism focused on divorce not remarriage. Remarriage was graciously allowed for women put away by their husbands (Deut. 24:2). Unfortunately there is an unintentional consequence even for the innocent party. But we have every reason for practical purposes to discriminate between the innocent and guilty party!! That’s because Jesus does exactly that. Jesus indicts the men in Matthew 5:32 with the culpability of their former wives transgression. “causeth her to commit adultery” (KJV) or “makes her the victim of adultery” (NIV) is an indictment against the former husband.
Instead of focusing on Christ criticism of divorce, DTR advocates instead choose to focus on remarriage causing the adultery, so therefore “remarriage is the adultery”. But the origin of the problem according to Jesus was hard hearts insisting on divorce (Matt.19:8) and according to the text divorce is what Jesus rebuke the Pharisees for (Matt.19:6). Conversely by adding their suppositions DTR has built a case against remarriage. There is no prohibition (another supposition) for remarriage in Jesus teachings. God’s covenant people were not required to remain companionless because of the consequent defilement and adultery. One must maintain the chronological facts in order to properly understand Paul’s divorce and remarriage restriction later (1 Cor. 7:10,11). While there is a New Testament circumstance where remarriage is prohibited, that restriction is proven unique and not uniform when understood within context as well as the biblical truth that remarriage had been graciously allowed (Deut. 24:2).
Historically women, particularly Jewish women had little to no divorce rights but were not forced to endure life without a husband. If you do not start from the biblical base point that remarriage was allowed, 1 Cor. 7:11 will be understood as some uniform rule for every circumstance (even though Paul addresses different ones). Reading that verse void of biblical history and other textual factors will only produce an absolute prohibition not sustainable by knowing all the biblical facts.
It is imperative that Christians do not overlook the fact that Jesus described an adultery specifically caused by divorce, not the imaginary absent of it. Do you understand if one omits the retrospective indictment against Israel for causing this manner of adultery, they will then account for the adultery some other way? The DTR camp does exactly that and consequently creates a whole new dimension (enigma) for this issue not even in the bible. Can you be convinced from supposition that repentance requires more for this adultery in the New Testament than it did in the Old? Do you understand that no one in scripture but Moses speaks to an “after remarriage” solution? Do you realize there is no New Testament instruction to “divorce to repent?” Do you now understand that the DTR supposition is predicated on false suppositions itself?
The “divorce to repent” supposition is a deceptive lie predicated on deception itself. When we understand Moses and Jesus without these false suppositions we have every reason to believe that divorce and remarriage produced both a transgression and a transference of marital obligation. That would be the harmonious conclusion of believing both Jesus and Moses.
Questions for the reader,
* How do you account for this manner of adultery?
* How do you explain the adultery caused by divorce and remarriage?
Why are these two questions important? Because if your premise is false your conclusion will be also. If you do not understand that adultery is not limited to “infidelity within marriage” you will not differentiate and you will end up opposing the Lord on this issue.
* Does your explanation affirm or deny the retrospective indictment against Israel?
* Do you understand that Jesus was telling Israel they had been committing this manner of adultery ever since they insisted on divorce?
Why are these questions relevant? Because if we understand that the adultery Jesus describes is not something new we have no ground to change biblical precedents. Precedents where remarriage was allowed even though it inadvertently caused a shameful consequence. Precedents where remarriage was a binding marriage.
* Are you able to differentiate between this way of committing adultery from that of infidelity within marriage?
* Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes what Jesus actually said?
* Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes when this adultery began?
* Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes how Jesus describes this adultery?
* Do you understand that the abrogation/abolishment supposition changes why this adultery occurs?
* Do you realize the abrogation/abolishment supposition is a deceptive lie (even if unintentional)?
All Christians believe that divorce is nothing to be cavalier about it. But divorce is a reality in God’s eyes today just like it was for Moses, Jesus and Paul. We can not make up suppositions to explain it away or to fix it, we will only become more legalistic than Christ. Repentance will then require more in the new Testament than it did in the Old, we will then impose on others a repentance no one in scripture required.
Any supposition can be defended from the bible if the text is isolated from biblical history. This is why you must maintain a chronological understanding of the facts as they unfolded. Anyone can refer to a passage of scripture to defend their supposition, but few people actually harmonize it with biblical precedents. “divorce to repent” fabricates a burden on the mind that exceeds the bible, that’s where and why I disagree with it. That conviction is built around false supposition and deductive reasoning as I’ve proved, not a chronological unfolding of biblical history and truth. “divorce to repent” exacerbates divorce and destroys families. Adding transgression to transgression is not the answer. We must maintain the biblical truth that once remarried, individuals are in a binding marriage in God’s eyes to which they should honor. Any supposition to the contrary is just that.
You are a heretic.
I have been faithful to explain God's Word as it historically unfolded. You on the other hand have embraced false suppositions and are calling me a heretic. God will judge between you and me!!!
@@nealdoster8556 God will judge you for teaching falsely.
My ex-husband and I divorced after 17 yrs. of marriage. I was his first wife; however, he was not my first husband. That was 23 years ago, and I have never remarried. He did go on to remarry, but to a woman who had two previous husbands. Is he committing adultry by being married to a previously divorced woman? I know she is, according to the Bible, but is he?
If his current spouse has a living ex-husband, then yes, he is in adultery with his new wife, for she has made him an adulterer when they entered into marriage.
@@Joy_M507 That's what I thought. She is definitely an adultress. He is also living in adultery by marrying her. This is why I have never
remarried, nor sought to. (I also have no man in my life in any form). Thank God for His Grace!!!
@@pamelak.8064 It’s so refreshing to hear of your faith and obedience to God by remaining unmarried. Christ will truly reward you for your faithfulness. You are so loved by God and He is with you. Continue to pray for your ex-husband and pray God brings him and his new wife to the truth. God bless you!
Just a few noteworthy points to consider before coming to any conclusions.
1. Jesus never said marriage to another is adultery. His exact words are causes one to commit adultery.
2. Nowhere does Jesus or any disciple tell those married to another to divorce to repent.
3. Most important God is holy and immutable . This is important!
4. Divorce and marriage to another is addressed in deuteronomy24.
5. Jesus was the only one that could fulfill the law.
6. Jesus did not come to change the law not one jot or tittle.
7. Jesus is and was a Jew that adhered to the law.
8. When Jesus addressed divorce and marriage to another he explained the consequences of these actions to the pharisees.
9. The is no taking the law to a higher standard as God is holy and immutable.
Not here to tell people what to do just to give perspectives that are left out of those that promote DTR.
The question is why did you and your husband divorce?
If YOU filed for divorce, YOU left him, or YOU cheated... He was free to remarry.
She was free to marry or remarry if she had legitimate KJV biblical grounds.
But if either or both of you have become a true born again Christian since then, your past BEFORE CHRIST....
Is your past. A true vonvert becomes a completely different person.
The fundamental question here...does “put away” mean the same thing as “divorce”. Bastardized modern English translations of the Bible say it does. Scholars of the original Hebrew/Greek languages say the two terms are not equal.
Put away (apoluo) means to simply send away without a bill of divorcement (apostacion), a practice that was common in ancient Jewish culture. Jewish men treated women like a piece of property they could toss to the curb. Jesus said to put away and remarry is adultery. He did not say to divorce and remarry is adultery. Before preaching hell, fire, and damnation these modern preachers need to study the meaning of the original language in greater detail.
Mike Arcuri Thanks brother, they just blatantly take word of God at face value without doing a proper study of the word using exegesis and etymology. All English version is a translation of the original text and are with some error of wording.
ABSOLUTELY 💯
NO! That is not the fundamental question. The real issue is, when the man abandons his wife, and she has not committed adultery already, he is the one who is causing her to do so! If she committed porneia, that IS adultery, and he is not the one who caused her to do that!
Mike Arcuri 1 Corinthians 7:10
10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she Must Remain Unmarried OR else Be Reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
Romans 7:1
By law a married woman is Bound to her husband As Long As He Is Alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, She IS Called an Adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man
Luke 16:18
“Jesus said: Whosoever/anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Greek present continuous tense or state of being)
Christopher Jordan You are quoting me the mistranslation that I alluded to in my post. Jesus never used the word divorce. He used the term put away, which is not the same.
Sweet biblical truth!
Remarriage never was the adultery. Jesus was criticizing divorce and He did so by revealing what it caused for remarriage. God had not forced singleness on His covenant people even though they inadvertently committed this manner of adultery. Divorce is the primal cause because it prematurely ends a marriage therefore staging remarriage to violate the “faithfulness until death” responsibility. Jesus taught that divorce causes one to commit adultery when they remarry, not the marriage is the adultery. The focal point of criticism was on divorce. This manner of adultery is a two factor or two cause adultery, not one factor. Remarriage causes adultery because of divorce. That was the Lord’s point and that is why He admonished Israel to stop separating the one-flesh union (Matt. 19:6). That was His only instruction on this issue. Jesus did not teach that more divorce was the answer to this predicament. Neither did anyone else in scripture.
Neal you will be judged for you false teaching.
If you can prove that I have taught differently from God's Word, I will change my view. But the false teaching comes from those like you who adds to God's Word. Therefore you should realize that it will be you who is judge for false teaching. I challenge you to explain what I said that is not true according to scripture (without misrepresenting me). In other words, detail our differences so that they are fairly understood by any readership.
Neal Doster are you saying that adultery is only committed once in the wedding day and then in the morning everything is good and God now blesses that marriage?
Or does the couple have to repent in the morning of their adultery the night before and then every day after that they are good?
You are pretty close to spot on, but you have to take into consideration the gender specific nouns and pronouns both Jesus and Paul used.
@@apilkey I think that is a fair assessment since according to the Law of Moses, she was not allowed to return to her husband.
Genuine question. In the scenario he’s describing about the couple, did I miss something? Why would they not be able to be married? She committed adultery against her husband by having an affair, but if they were already married prior to her doing that, can’t he just forgive her? I don’t understand how that makes their marriage not scriptural? Where was the divorce in the situation? Or did I miss some other context?
In his confusion he has conflated the word for fornication with the word for adultery. He rightly points out later, in 1 Cor 7, that the word for bonds (as in marriage) and bound (as in slavery) are different words, however in Matt 19:9/5:32 he conflates adultery and fornication. Modern teachers of the world subsume adultery under fornication but ignore when the two are listed together. If fornication covers adultery within itself as a charge then adultery need not be named because it is already covered/listed under fornication. But what is ignored is Matthew is the only book where the exception is given... it is also, in Matthew 1, the place where divorce of betrothal is accounted. Joseph being betrothed to Mary. Joseph being a just (just as in justice of law) man. It appeared to Joseph that Mary had been a fornicator (one who has sex outside of the bonds of marriage) was minded to divorce his betrothed, Mary. This is the one place this speaker misses; many people have been misled in this one mistake. Remember all commands are summed up in love; love God first and love your neighbor second. So, (1 Cor 13) is divorce patient, kind, not keeping a record of wrong...? No. Is remarriage hoping, believing and enduring all things for your lost spouse's sake? No. Then divorce and remarriage is not acting in love. When then is divorce allowed? Love- when it is us not insisting on our own way but allowing our spouse to depart. This is what God did with Israel in Jeremiah 3... but remember 8 verses after he granted Israel its certificate of divorce he said, "return to me for I AM MARRIED UNTO YOU." divorce did not end the covenant marriage only Jesus's giving of his life on the cross ended that covenant and allowed for a new covenant.
That story was confusing. It sounds like she had been married before and was divorced from that husband who had cheated on her. And she also had an affair during that marriage.
But this pastor is wrong in his assessment of the situation IMO. It doesn’t matter who cheated on who. It’s just that she is not allowed to remarry while her first husband is living.
Remarriage is adultery..This is compassion for innocent children and to not teach them evil things by example.
bob frost ; well said......
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That is ONLY true in the case of the WIFE who remarries WHILE HER HUSBAND is still alive.
@@danieldeluca4936 I believe you are correct. If a woman leaves him he may remarry as long as he did not divorce her. But what if she repents and decides to comeback? What then? You can't have 2 wives in America. He cannot marry a woman with a living husband. Why are the rules laid out by God different for men and women? It has to do with Woman being taken from a mans rib and not via versa.Example: Michal left David and married another man.[adultery].David took another wife.[not adultery].Example 2 David knew he could not have Urriahs wife while he[Urriah] was alive. So david had Urriah killed. Murder and adultery.And WHEW!!! Did God make him pay!
@@redletters7933 Don't need all that Matt 19 is clear enough. Jesus kept it short for a reason. No wiggle room for slick lawyers.
Wow, someone could research this by researching where he has preached and eventually find out who this woman was. Geez, thanks for the confidentiality, preach!
I understand that you feel that you are being compassionate toward those who are in this situation, one that I was also in for 15 years, but you are not telling people what they need to hear when it comes to covenants with God and teaching falsely. The damage is being done by giving false hope for remarriage after a divorce which is a 500 year old false gospel that was not practiced in the first 1500 years within any church. Biblical grounds for remarriage after a divorce is a lie and total nonsense that is settng people up and keeping them from inheriting the kingdom of heaven. Two becomming one-flesh is more than an "intention" or "idea", but covenants with God are permanent until death. Ok...answer this...does Jesus not say in Matthew 5:32 "That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery?" What is so difficult for most people to understand about this scripture? The woman in this case is not guilty of fornication during Jewish betrothal (which is the Mosaic Law that is clearly outlined in Deuteronomy 22:13-21), but is in danger of comitting adultery with another man because she is now divorced . Any pastor or teacher should know that Matthew was written to the Jews (Romans 1:16), and is the first of the synoptic gospels with over 20 specific characteristics that speak directly to a Jewish audience. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees that were preaching like this video and who believe that hardness of hearts that caused divorce and remarriage was ok. Jesus reaffirms the one-flesh covenant when he says to the Pharisees "Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so" (Matthew 19:4-8). More proof that this video is in error is by teaching from the Old Covenant Law regarding David when Jesus addresses the Pharisees in Luke 16 as seen here: "And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery" (Luke 16:14-18). Jesus clearly is telling the Pharisees that the Law and the prophets were until John the Baptist began preaching the coming of the kingdom. Preaching on divorce and remarriage from the Old Covenant is serious error because it denies the authority of Christ through the New Covenant. This video is mocking the scriptures and scoffing at those who are following the scriptures and not man's interpretation. To further prove this is teaching falsely is that it also takes 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 out of context in an attempt to apply it to divorce and remarriage when the entire chapter of 2 Corinthians 6 is about ministry from beginning to end. What is not being made clear is that Paul already dealt with the topic of divorce and remarriage in his first letter to the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 7 and would not have repeated this in a chapter about ministry. We need to divide the word and allow it to affirm other scriptures but some either do not yet know that 2 Corinthians 6 is speaking specifically about ministry or deliberately ignore it in order to justify remarriage after a divorce. It should be simple but we have teachers like in this video sowing confusion and preaching to itchy ears. Another proof that some are teaching falsely is by telling you that 1 Corinthians 7:15 disolves a one-flesh covenant but is not telling you that Jesus is speaking through Paul when he says "not I but the Lord" when he commands the departing spouse to "remain unmarried or else be reconciled" just four scriptures above in 1 Corinthians 7:11. This is literally attempting to teach that Paul overruled Christ and says that the brother or sister is no longer "bound", but that is not what the actual scripture says. Here is the actual scripture, "But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace" (1 Corinthians 7:15). The phrase "not under bondage" means slavery to sin against God by force with an unbelieving spouse, not a release from the one-flesh covenant as this teaching suggests. The word bondage always refers to slavery not marriage. The Word is clear. Matthew is written to the Jews first and was speaking on the Jewish betrothal found in Deuteronomy 22:13-21, and clearly proves Luke 16:16 true in John 8:11 by forgiving the adulteress. By telling her to sin no more he is telling her to repent and return to her covenant husband just as God commanded Hosea to take back Gomer. The matter of being equally yoked in 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 is regarding ministry, not marriage. This is easily proven by 1 Corinthians 7:12-14 where the unbeliever accepts that the believing spouse has found faith in God but wishes to remain and not hinder their beliefs. Many also falsely use the woman at the well as an excuse to remarry but this is easily explained by Matthew 22:23-28, where Jesus is being told of a similar situation where a widow marries seven brothers, each after the previous brother dies. This both legitimizes and reaffirms the one-flesh covenant as well as the nature of Jesus's acknowledgement of the five husbands of the Samaritan woman, as well as the illegitimacy of the 6th man. If the five husbands of the woman at the well were not covenant husbands then Jesus would not have acknowledged that they were. This video is also teaching falsely when it comes to God's divorce with Israel. The reason some find it difficult to understand Jeremiah 3:1 is that they make two mistakes while reading the parable of Israel as the divorced wife. Many error by only reading half the parable. Let’s first examine this parable more closely. Jeremiah’s purpose in using this parable is two-fold. First, the prophet wishes to vividly illustrate Israel’s spiritual disloyalty to its Creator. Second, and most important, unlike the twice-estranged wife whose original husband cannot return to her, the prophet appeals to the Jewish people to repent and proclaims that it is their sacred mandate to be restored as God’s chosen people. What is impossible with the forsaken woman is the destiny for the children of Israel. Let’s look at the entire verse in context: They say, “If a man divorces his wife, and she goes from him and becomes another man’s, may he return to her again?” Would not that land be greatly polluted? But you have played the harlot with many lovers; “Yet return to Me,” says the Lord (Jeremiah 3:1). The central feature of the prophet’s exhortation that you overlooked appears at the very end of the verse, ” ‘Yet return to Me’, says the Lord.” Jeremiah makes this plea five times throughout the chapter. The message conveyed by prophet clear: The mercy and compassion of the Almighty is far beyond the scope of man’s comprehension. God has made it clear that Israel has been unfaithful but still his wife. Teaching that God has remarried the church (which is the bride of Christ, not God), who is only betrothed to Christ until the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, is uncatigorically false and presents a major conflict in scripture. By doing this you present God as a polygamist in an attempt to void all scriptures that pertain to the one-flesh covenant. Please seek the scriptures for confirmation and answers before entering into or remaining in a situation such as an adulterous marriage that requires total repentance. God bless.
Take your meds,,,,
No, ppl know simple facts and don't follow bullcrap like what ur saying.
Facts such as a divorced person is SINGLE.......You don't understand basic information regarding people and Marital status.
You don't know contract law.
And you certainly don't know what it means to love,,,,
@@LuxeprivaeMedia your anger toward me is without cause. I am only talking about the clear scriptures in Jesus's words regarding the topic. I will be honest and say that the best medicine is the word itself.
@@ajlouviere202 see previous posts, you are clearly confused.
@@ajlouviere202 Do you actually know how to read? Like seriously? Did you even read what I wrote? I addressed some things and you glossed right over it and went saying Im angry, lol Intellectually dishonest sir, that is what you are....
I am have great difficulty finding a church or pastor that believes and teaches this. So Many churches and pastors have fallen away. They are ashamed of the word of God. They will not preach the whole council of God.
Pastor you are one brave pastor, and God wants more like you.
I’m married her husband was unfaithful and she divorced and I married her he said this is okay but it’s not what good wants
Does “fornication” include pornography?
Matthew was addressing the Jews who believed being betrothed was binding
What a phenomenal teaching.
Though we can not break marriage contract by ourselves , we can pray and God can break it himself, And it won't be sin.
There are abusive partners, there are so and so partners....
Pray until God gives you guidance ore to break the contract.
Lol you guys really try to twist scripture and really believe you know how God works. The scripture says God Hates Divorce. You can divorce but cannot remarry. Please turn to your Bible and not your feelings.
God never said He will break the contract. Our vows were so serious that yes,we can seperate(abuse and more).. but we cannot re marry after divorce. Only death of our husband or wife. Took me years (God was patient).. to believe I couldn’t re marry. Now..I’m old and actually understand how serious my vows were. And I have the peace that passes all understanding. I’m no longer sad that I’m single. I love God so much more then I did as a young woman.
I would recommend fasting and prayer for one's self to truly ask God for the revelation of his word on this topic and bible scripture, these scriptures.are not milk but meat and must be discerned by the Holy Ghost thru faith in Jesus Christ. Because we all will give an account of our works before Jesus Christ.
The word of God can't lie
What if someone married and God did not put us together , and we marry and my husband commits adultry . Is God saying I cannot marry again ?
Question - if the man who was put away for adultery (although you said fornication), and he would be committing adultery if he remarried, who is he committing adultery against, since you claim his wife is on longer married to him by biblical permission?
I don't know why there are pastors who cannot see this simple truth n advise couples wrongly