He's talking about Ernest Becker. That society/culture exists to cover over the idea that we die and that's the absolute end. Anyone who's interested read his book " Denial of Death". That book forever changed my thinking about what culture is really about and about who we are as human beings.
Why is it evidence that just because we can't remember before being born we will also experience the same after life? Nobody knows shit about life and death, we all pretend to though. Latch on to our truth so we are not afraid or to just add a belief to add to our persona to give us some kind of meaning. The only thing we do know is we experience both.
Can you be knocked unconscious? Perhaps by general anesthesia in surgery. Or a car wreck. I think if damage or drugs to the brain can shut your consciousness off, then what if that brain was just crushed under a bulldozer? What if your entire head was liquefied by a .12 gauge blast? I think at least it would knock you unconscious! I'll let you decide how you would wake back up...
i agree with this notion. from a purely intellectual point of view, the state of affairs of a person's experience before and after death can not be determined with certainty. i think all humans instinctively know this, hence tendency of most to believe in the supernatural. also humans instinctively sense a supernatural interference or interaction in their day to day activities, hence the existence of religions, sharmans, witchcraft, occultism etc which are well documented and practiced across diverse cultures and ethnicities.
He did so in Plato's "Phaedo", but became less idealistic in Plato's "Apology" when death was much closer and he was in his jail cell awaiting execution. He discussed the possibilities of an afterlife with Crito and two Pythagoreans. He concluded there must be two alternatives. A dreamless sleep or going to Hades, but he expressed much doubt in the latter and seemed to be more convinced of a dreamless sleep. All his beliefs in the soul were related to the Forms. He believed that mathematical truths, such as the Pythagorean Theorem, existed in the realm of the forms and were discovered, not invented, by the mind of man. And because it required a mind to discover these eternal forms, then he thought the mind itself must also be immortal. So his belief in an eternal soul was directly linked to math. That may seem appealing at first, but as death approaches such idealism can be lost in the contemplation of one's own mortality.
He's talking about Ernest Becker. That society/culture exists to cover over the idea that we die and that's the absolute end. Anyone who's interested read his book " Denial of Death". That book forever changed my thinking about what culture is really about and about who we are as human beings.
that ending. wow.
Why is it evidence that just because we can't remember before being born we will also experience the same after life? Nobody knows shit about life and death, we all pretend to though. Latch on to our truth so we are not afraid or to just add a belief to add to our persona to give us some kind of meaning. The only thing we do know is we experience both.
I know the truth about life and death.
Can you be knocked unconscious? Perhaps by general anesthesia in surgery. Or a car wreck. I think if damage or drugs to the brain can shut your consciousness off, then what if that brain was just crushed under a bulldozer? What if your entire head was liquefied by a .12 gauge blast? I think at least it would knock you unconscious! I'll let you decide how you would wake back up...
listen to Scott.. he does know
i agree with this notion. from a purely intellectual point of view, the state of affairs of a person's experience before and after death can not be determined with certainty. i think all humans instinctively know this, hence tendency of most to believe in the supernatural. also humans instinctively sense a supernatural interference or interaction in their day to day activities, hence the existence of religions, sharmans, witchcraft, occultism etc which are well documented and practiced across diverse cultures and ethnicities.
What? Socrates didn't believe it was the end? He believed and argued for the souls existence after death.
He did so in Plato's "Phaedo", but became less idealistic in Plato's "Apology" when death was much closer and he was in his jail cell awaiting execution. He discussed the possibilities of an afterlife with Crito and two Pythagoreans. He concluded there must be two alternatives. A dreamless sleep or going to Hades, but he expressed much doubt in the latter and seemed to be more convinced of a dreamless sleep. All his beliefs in the soul were related to the Forms. He believed that mathematical truths, such as the Pythagorean Theorem, existed in the realm of the forms and were discovered, not invented, by the mind of man. And because it required a mind to discover these eternal forms, then he thought the mind itself must also be immortal. So his belief in an eternal soul was directly linked to math. That may seem appealing at first, but as death approaches such idealism can be lost in the contemplation of one's own mortality.
What do you mean with "the jurors who acquitted Socrates"? No, they didn't acquit him... That's the point of the story!
I think he was talking about his friends and students who did not vote against him.
he only lost the case by a few votes, is what I believe the sentiment was behind the jurors who acquitted him
The vote to convict him wasn’t close to unanimous- many jurors voted to acquit.