darktennisball ...13% of 50%? ... My assumption is that you are speaking of the subatomic structure of the majority of the known elements! i.e the atom , it's cloud of electrons and the nucleus - where science has led us to believe that the majority of the mass of each atom is made up of 99.94% attributed to the nucleus! That is of course apart from the Hydrogen - 1 atom, which has no nucleus, and not to mention the Hydron Ion which has no electron. God alone knows why! 🎩
Don’t be so fast to judge. Ricky makes some good points, but that doesn’t mean he disproved anything. I’m not saying I believe in the afterlife, but I’m also not saying I don’t believe in it
There's no way you can guarantee she (and the people you talk to who react similarly) missed the point and didn't understand the other viewpoint. It could just be that they disagree and feel like there's no point in arguing further since on some subjects some people are unlikely to reach common ground
I don’t think that’s what’s happening. My interpretation is that she knows there’s no rebuttal there so she gave herself an out by directing the conversation somewhere else, and he lets her. Both displayed emotional intelligence at the end.
I think Ricky just made this character, so he can adress all people that (propably) constantly questions atheism, without having to constantly come with the same responses.
@@mart_en I dont remember. I cant view the original comment that responded to mine. I think it had something to do with Techvis text looking a bit aggressive.
@@Johnsilver813 would you say the same about the renouned scientists or philosophers? I take it that most of them weren't atheists but all of them were seekers right?
@@Johnsilver813 My dear friend, logic and science tells us to think rationally. Don't take just about anything at face value. You have to judge and look into the matter in order to get something out of it. If you have nothing in your hands, you got to start with something as meager as yourself. If you don't even believe in yourself, not one bit it's really unfortunate. But even in that scenario you have to consider that this world or this universe is not a small room. So the chance of you being an absolute loner in some scenario would always tend to zero. And Nietzsche also acknowledged that surviving is finding the truth why you suffered right? You got to find and fight before you give up. If you be a pacifist ok, a nihilistic you're still in the game. But if you become an escapist it's most unfortunate.
@@Johnsilver813 Man is a rational animal. We have brains to think. So why should we give up before meeting the end of line, before looking at the abyss? It's exactly what Richie said here. You can be an antheist and still have your ethics, morals, ideals, do-s and don'ts in your every day life. You have to keep looking at it, keep seeking the truth. You know Buddha was skeptical/ Agnostical to God's existence but he firmly believed in the afterlife. Existence is not a lie. Matter and energy reciprocally creates each other in a proportionate way, says the freaking theory of relativity. 👍
If you do good things only because you’re afraid of going to hell, then you’re a shitty person. Do you only love your parents because a book told you you’re going to hell if you do? Besides, by your logic, it wouldn’t make sense to not believe in afterlife and do what you want, everyone should do what they want for 1/4 of their life and spend the rest asking for forgiveness anyway.
I agree. I mean even as someone who does believe in heaven and hell. I don't think that was ever the point. It is about being good to people. Being a good person to everyone around you regardless of what they may do or say to you because that's how you make a better world.
Just don't overthink. All that matters is now and today. Go play your favourite sport, go out on a date, go play your favourite video game or whatever it is that brings you joy and meaning. Our time on earth is short but don't think about death, think about living your life!
@@blitheixgaming1289 "Go play your favourite sport, go out on a date, go play your favourite video game or whatever it is that brings you joy and meaning" - HAHAHAHAHAHA, there is nothing more pathetic. Egoinsm and mere low bottom pleasure? Really?))) What if someone doesn't have a girlfriend? And he can't just get her? What if you are poor, you want a good PC, but ain't got one? What now? I don't need answers like "just get it", you know there are people who just don't have what you mentioned. So your position is just based on living in developed rich coutry today, wich is not in war condition, while not being born poor - is that all what you base your thinking? What makes that guy thinks that there ever going to be last meal, what if he's wrong? That is the quesiton he didn't adressed nor did he answered it. So why he talks like he is 100% on truth side, what makes him thnk that? His bias? Or he is just in comfort zone, same as you? Face it - atheism doesn't answer questions, no matter if i am as christian right or wrong, it doesn't. It does "no you" thing and blindly follows it's own narrative, not proving it's point. You know why atheism doesn't bother to give answers and give points? Becuase it cannot. So then what is the basis for accepting it if there is none? Faith? That's why i'm not an atheistm and any smart person should too, christian or not, it's stupid, heavilly biased/pre-just and self-righteous. I know, that's why i ain't one anymore. No any sort of crysis after that, or i can have possibility that i'll go to Heaven (if i truly follow it and help other to as well), or: 1. blank nothingness, no reason, no furute, 2. hell. Chose well, mate.
Think deeply about your life and what happaned to you, why it happened, who is guilty for it, it is not you, I assure you, but they will try to convince that the evil that other people do to you is your fault and they will tell you not to think about it.
Seeing this comment section full of people getting mad about him “winning an argument he made up in the shower” or “making atheists look smart and theists look dumb” makes me confused. Neither of those things were the point of this scene at all. The scene was about only living once and spending your time as best you can. About appreciating every little thing about life because you won’t be able to forever. I don’t see how these characters simply having a discussion about life could be taken as an insult to anyone.
People these days are chosing to get offended just so they can create some sort of reason to desagree and/or discuss with other people. They aren't really ofended, they just want a "good" reason to yell at others. It is a way to make them feel better about themselves and worse about those who they desagree with. Dark times.
@@quantinum2141 Or i just like to discuss with people who have different opinions,if they're reasonable it can be eye opening, if they're stupid you can laugh at them,bot possibilities end up with me feeling better than before the discussion
@@lad4830 you missed the point. I'm not talking about you, because you clearly won't get offended just because I disagree with you. You actually want to listen to others, I'm talking about those that just wanna feel like they are right and the opposite opinion is wrong. Clearly, not your case.
Yeah this wasn't really an "argument" at all. It was just a dude calmly and respectfully explaining his worldview. I see how the girl's initially brash behavior can be somewhat interpreted as an insult to religious people, but considering she calmed down immediately when he was done explaining she wasn't painted in a remotely bad light at the end of the day.
But when your arguing with believe you have to remember the point of views are different for example your right the scene is said well but for a Christian like me that does not bother me because there is an afterlife and according to the Bible it’s is a new earth and the things we love will be there are long as they are good and not evil things so the scene would not apply to believers because we don’t only live once according to God and atheist will continue seeing things just not in a good position there but with believers is that there is life after death it’s actually sad to hear atheist speak that way from our point of view we don’t want them to have to be in a position where for them that is the only life they get to enjoy when there is more of course even that has to different point of views there are atheist who hate life and don’t believe in God simply cause they suffered which is understandable but they missed the point on what God states cause they want God to be there way of thinking and therefore life is horrible and they prefer being dead to end there suffering so even among atheist they fight each other’s way of thinking
@@thedeathmonkey3891 I'd say he's agnostic. He frequently quotes the bible but is skeptical. He can't wrap his head around the fact that we're nothing and our lives don't matter.
@@lad4830 I have had theists confront me about my atheism before. I would say Theists do get angrier when an atheist confronts them but they really have come at me with some anger of their own before.
Plenty. And if u don't believe me, just Google scientists who believe in God/creator. I don't think you ever heard of Sir Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein or many others. Do you live under a rock ? Is that rock called atheism ?
@@BrightRomeo Dude you got defensive really fast. You can search atheist scientists on Google too. I am saying have you got any stats to back up that statement of yours?
Funny that some people that do believe in heaven or hell still go around raping and murdering as much as they want. The promise of an afterlife is meaningless in truth.
Well the main difference is that theists who go around raping and murdering are logically inconsistent while atheists who do the same thing follow the path to its logical ends, I hope u get it, well I think u do and u r just strawmanning the theistic narrative.
@Scott Scotty if you are to follow the path of atheism to its logical ends = there will be no inherent meaning in life, no good, no bad, no right no wrong, ''it's just DNA and we dance on its music" as Dawkins wrote in his book. As such, morality will surely become arbitrary and will be just a personal taste. that's why you cannot compare between a religious person who murders (in which case they won't be consistent with their worldview) and an atheist who murders (in which case they will be consistent with their worldview).
I watched God's Not Dead, i like Kevin Sorbo, but it's nothing more than a Christian Propaganda Film, in the end, Sorbo goes to a christian concert because he is an atheist, and on the way he gets hit by a car and is dying and a priest comes out from nowhere and asks him to believe in god and he will guide him blag blag blag, anyway, it was good until the end, then you could purely see it was nothing more than pointless drivel. Kevin Sorbo is a hardcore christian by the way.
If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. -Marcus Aurelius
That's life. Everything is business. We work to earn money. Why? So we can live, but food, and pay our expenses. Why? So we can live do the things we want. Nothing in life is free. It seems like everything is a trade off or a transaction. Including kindness and decency.
@@theintrovertedaspie9095 In many instances for sure. And for some love is only transactional, maybe all love is transactional but don't think so. If I could die to see more around me succeed in life I would, more than happily. I love most of the time becuase I want to see other people's lives better whether it benefits me or not.
Ahhh how he's got a point. As a religious man, cherishing the years we have here is very important, even if and when we go to the other side, everything we do here counts. Because we never will come back here, and one day we'll be somewhere else. Cherish those you have here and you love, one day, they wont be here, and the day's without them will seem like centuries. God bless you all lads and lasses
@Akshay 004 what were you before this life then? And why educate yourself and work for a living. Just live your life with ignorance, you can never escape your fate, everything is predestined. You die you live again. If you want moksha, Buddhism is your best bet. Primitive beliefs
But that is contrary to what the Bible puts on the table. The bible promises you eternal life after this one, and tells you that this one is only to praise god and worship at his feet. Christianity makes life into a dirty carpet for you to rub the dirt off of your shoes before entering the limitless house of god. What are 80 years compared to infinity? Its a stupid wager where you give the gift you have in your hands for a better one you "might" get.
@@indrajithak47 Ummmm.....from your statement it looks like you really don't understand the concept of karma too well. And Hinduism has the concept of moksha too which predates Buddhism.
Makes you think don't it? If this is it?!How much more beautiful is life.!? Maybe we would love more! Care more!! Be more!! Live more!! If this is it!!!
I've never heard of this show until I saw this clip. I just binged the whole first season and I couldn't recommend it more highly. Brilliant look at depression, suicidal inclinations, and perseverance with a purpose.
I hope we appreciate this man enough when he's alive. He's got a beautiful heart, and a real knowledge of the human condition. The master of bittersweet comedy.
@@Praying_Light_ForceEven if buddisim is real the you as you are will not return. But the secret door can only be opened when it's time. Maybe we can come back as long as there is life, maybe not. Maybe our actions matter, maybe not. But as long as we can think, we can appreciate life now
@@jimmythemadostrich8947 So I guess this was the first thing from him you've ever seen then? Maybe if you weren't so busy rewatching Ride Along 2 . . .
Sarcasm Never seen him look quite so smugly pleased with himself as he does at about 1:37. As for Ride Along 2, never heard of it until you mentioned it. Wondering what Ricky's problem is with Kevin Hart, though? ....if you can throw some light.....
That’s true, no one can prove what certainly happens after we die. We will all find out soon enough though. I believe because I was nonexistent for billions of years then came into existence, I can come into existence again after I die, possibly as a different organism. Even if it takes millions or trillions of years. If there’s a multiverse...
You can believe in an afterlife and still fear death, I'm an atheist, I don't think death is the end, but I do believe it will be bigger than any change I've ever experienced and change is naturally scary, also my family will fall to pieces and I don't want that to happen. Plus the only thing we know about death is that it is one way, that is terrifying, what if the afterlife doesn't have fish fingers?
No, that's silly. You're relying on the logic argument that you can't prove a negative. I can't prove there's no afterlife. I also can't prove there are no unicorns, but believing in them just because I can't prove they don't exist is silly, just like believing in an afterlife. Here's another "educated guess" - before we're born our souls exist as angels that swim around inside the sun. Since you can't prove that's not true, it must be true. See what I mean?
@@kilroy2517 Um, that's not what I'm doing and I don't believe I wrote my comment like that? I take it like this, the reason we think death is the end is that our grossly overestimated intuition tells us so, because well, it turns out if you get mauled by an animal you stop moving and never move again. Or, at some point in your old age your heart stops beating because reasons (Scars are at fault most of the time). Yeah there are an infinite amount of things that can happen after our brain decides to turn off, and if you just stick with "That's it for everyone" it's unlikely to be true when stacked against (Potential) infinity. But besides probabilities, we just lack info. I'd like some.
@dylan t nothing inherently narcissistic in atheism, and a sense of the world not revolving around yourself and caring about others isnt exclusive to belief in a deity.
@dylan t Yes, it is so much more narcissistic than believing that there is an all-powerful deity that takes a vested interest in your every day life and created the universe just for you😑
(If it matters) Coming from a catholic, Ricky could not be more right. In the end, hundreds of thousands of years from now, no ones gonna care what you believed, who you believed, what your daily routine was or what you did for a living. Life is precious. Live it to the fullest extent because no matter what we all die and only you can decide how you live it.
About two years back after I got off of work one night, I went to fill up my gas tank at an arco down the street from my house. As I was filling up my car, a young blonde lady probably in her early thirties asked if I had some spare change to help get her out of town. I looked over at her truck and saw it was filled with random things she probably took out of her house as if she was moving out. I told her after I finished filling my car up I’d fill her truck up no problem. She said thank you and we got to talking about her life and this guy she was with and how he mistreated her and she was trying to get away from him and this and that and we ended up having a real heart-to-heart conversation about life and such. She asked me if I was religious and I told her that I wasn’t and she asked if I believed in heaven and hell and all of that and I told her I didn’t. I told her that without the idea of heaven or hell being real places we go when we die, it’s really helped motivate me to be a better person for the people around me and the people I hold close and dear to my heart. It’s really changed my outlook on life and made me realize there are no redos and we don’t get any other chances - this is all there is so we need to make the most out of it. That’s why I don’t ever take anything to granted anymore and I really try and make every day count and let the people in my life know that I love them very much because any time I see them could be my last. She said I was really kind and she appreciated what I did for her. She asked for my phone number and I had given it to her and that was that. She drove off and I never talked to or saw her again. It was a really humbling experience.
@YamiYami17 objective moral truth is not necessarily linked to God tho. Just because one is able to act with certain morals in mind is not proof that God exists.
@YamiYami17 I can't. That's the point of freedom. Everyone is free to choose how they act, and while I would disagree with said persons morals, I wouldn't be able to objectively say that he is wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own choices. Either way he would be reprimanded for any of those acts since there is a basic set of morals that is accepted within the majority of societies. Really, it comes down to the fact that we follow what we were taught as children and now take it as fact, but someone could have easily been told something else at a young age causing a difference in morals. The other person is wrong in my eyes and I am wrong in his.
Ironically in the Christain mythology, suicide isn't actually a sin, it was added later because this, you actually had the opposite happen, Christains wouldn't see a reason to live if the afterlife in heaven was just a confession and suicide away.
it was always a sin as it was taking a life- your own. A christian can still commit suicide and go to heaven but just like anyone who commits suicide you’re going to miss so much that would lay ahead of you if you stayed on earth. Suicides never the option no matter what the situation.
@@sirweebs2914 nah i was just making clear that in the bible it never says that if you commit suicide you’ll go to hell if you are truly born again. Then i was saying that suicide isn’t good to do. No contradictions it was a pretty easy to understand paragraph i wrote.
Even if not stated directly, one of the ten commandments is that one should not kill. If you commit suicide, then that means that the last thing you did while on earth was kill someone i.e. you, which is a sin, for which you have no time to redeem.
This program, After Life, is a multilevel work of art. I don’t know how anyone could create this story with these characters without experiencing the death of their spouse first hand.
I like how the lady is a little bit convinced by his words. When she said she watched the movie 5 times, he states that she *didn't* waste her time and that just makes it special.
All of the side characters in this show are so relatable! Ricky really nailed this show, writing arguments and therefore controlling both sides of the debate takes a certain touch of genius.
I believe that something always goes somewhere when it's time in a specific existence has come to an end, not exactly heaven or hell but just somewhere else in this endless universe
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” ― Marcus Aurelius
@@shunakiyama6275 Napoleon lived in different times chief, in his times people were killing however they wanted,because it was really easy to get away with it,now it's like 99% chance to get captured in first 2 weeks
@@CactusCowboyDan Dawkins is a physicist with no business in philosphy who barely has something new or worth bringing to the table, Jesus was a carpenter who managed but heads with the highest ranks of the Temple, and managed to cause the collapse of an entire civilisation that put him to death. Until Dawkins quits acting like a a newly atheist teen and more like a Mark Twain he always will be a wannabe.
That's What Theists Do, They Believe Every Single Thing They Do In Life Matters Infinitely And Eternally And That They Have Only So Little Time Before Their Life Ends And They Are Judged For It.
Hope that everyone here is okay. Please know that people care about you, even if it may not feel like it at times. If you are feeling troubled, maybe professional help is the answer, or talking to a trusted friend about what you are going through. Wish you all the best.
What I love about this show, is that Ricky's Character is slowly starting to find things he loves again. He said about how you never know when its gonna be your last so do everything with passion, and you can see in this video when he talks to Kath the passion behind his words and the smile at the end. He has fun making jokes and talking to her, she's his comic relief and she doesn't even know it. Sometimes even small things can be so important.
That line is fucking genius. “Why don’t you just go around raping and murdering as much as you want.” “I do. I do go around raping and murdering as much as I want, which is none at all.” Gervais is such a good writer. Very insightful guy.
I’d argue that someone who doesn’t think this world truly matters, or that if they just feel bad every once in a while about being a shitbag then theyre forgiven by the only one who does matter, they are intrinsically a much more dangerous person because of their perceived ez forgiveness pass. Its like someone saying “its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission”
@@PokemonDude880 well yes but the idea is an atheist is a good person because they want to be and a relgious person is a good person because they feel like they have to
@@exxodia13 that’s all just your “bet”. The idea of a “good person” isn’t universal. Atheists who think killing religious people is “good” isn’t a universal idea in everyone
I believe in God and Heaven/Hell, but I love Ricky’s line. And I’d like to add to it from the other side. If you’re watching a movie, and you know there’s a sequel to it that you know will be incredible, should you cut the first movie off early to get to the sequel faster? Or should you enjoy the first one as much as possible, knowing you’ll never be able to watch it again once you get to the sequel?
@Scott Scotty Partner, I think Frederico meant that living with depression is the Hell. No need to jump into the old talking points without a deeper reading.
I believe there is "something" and I am not an atheist yet I agree with him as far as do life. Tell that person you love them because you one day that opportunity may not be there. Hug them, love them, make sure they know they matter to you now. When you do that, life becomes more meaningful.
Yep, this is why I'm agnostic. Religion is kinda irrelevant to me. There's plenty of reasons to do good and avoid bad that have nothing to do with religion. But I'm not against religious ppl since any day it could turn out that they were right, or any day we might learn that atheists were right. It doesn't matter much to me though. Believe in whatever you want to believe in, it's probably just another name for humanity anyway.
@Heracles N Hmmm... Sorry if I misunderstood you, but I think I might agree. I mean, many ways in which you can find relief, either by believing in Heaven or by simply thinking that you helped someone and did the right thing. I know that saying religion is completely irrelevant is a bit of an exaggeration. My point was that I try not to dwell too much on it, since it's kind of an uncertainty, which makes me uncomfortable with putting most of my judgements on it. Again, sry if I missed your point.
i sometimes thought religions are created by humans to make a socially stable environment back then. Think about it, without the absence of religions from the start, ppl would have no fear of doing something wrong and cruel to others and themself, other than the consequences from the law. But now, i think religions are getting out of hands with their strict rules. Sure some religion are flexible and can change its rules as time goes by, but some of them.... My eyes observed that the only target now is money and power that will keep a religion going. Ppl sell their beliefs and benefit them as if they own them. It was supposed to straighten humanity, but now it is used to straighten their cashflow. Thats what i don't like about it. this is just my opinion i don't hate on other because i know that we will never know what journey awaits us at the end.
I've been questioning live lately, especially the "afterlife". (Never believed in any religion btw) I really needed this clip tbh. Gonna watch the whole show tomorrow.
A lot of people miss the point of this common topic. The point is that morals have a subconscious religious motivation even for so called "atheists". They just dont understand it. She was right that logically there is no reason not to harm others for your own well being if you won't get caught(it happens all the time btw) but most people don't do it because they have conscience like he said. BUT they never stop and think what that actually is. Conscience is the deep rooted fear that if you do something bad, that you will be judged for it by SOMETHING. That thought is ingrained in our minds because thats how we think it SHOULD BE. If we are not judged what is the point of anything? You could say "yeah I am judging myself" but it doesnt explain why you feel bad about it or why you feel like you SHOULD feel bad about it. He kinda indirectly points to the fact that life derives its meaning from you trying to live it in the best way possible and you imposing certain rules on yourself. If you disregard them it feels almost like you would lose your meaning of life. Judgement gives our life meaning. Breaking your morals that for basically equals to losing your life. This is a lot closer to bible teachings than he realizes. Morals(the word of god) in the example of the bible are personified by Jesus. Doing that is basically the definition of believing in Jesus (thats something a lot of christians don't get either). If you reject them you lose your (eternal) life. This theme of "rightousness = life" and "sin = death" goes back even to the old testament were the afterlife wasnt explicitly refered to but only hinted at. Even if you think its all rubbish you could at least acknowledge the philosophy behind it.
It's quite telling when (in real life) religious people say stuff like, "Well, if God doesn't exist, then everything is permissible." Gives you an insight into how they might desire to be if, in their minds, a sky daddy wasn't watching.
The interesting thing is the major catastrophes that the world has seen has been ninety five percent due to religion.. the other 5% is women and land/ food
“The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again.” -Achilleus
Atheist, or spiritual person, I think we can all benefit from viewing the “meaning of life” as LIFE itself rather than some ulterior purpose that has no substance of itself. If you are on the side of LIFE as an atheist I have no qualms against you. It’s the nihilists, those who deny life of its meaning in any form, that I can’t quite understand. Even then we are each on our own journey through this endless journey of LIFE and if being nihilist or an atheist is the game you want to play then go and live it, and learn the lessons that THIS life has to teach you.
Learn the lessons? For what? There's no exams later. Once you learn something everything else has changed, the same things never repeat themselves. And if they do repeat, it's like going through a triller film with all the spoilers in your head, and the movie starts to suck. It's always a choice between suffering or boredom, while perpetually chasing delusions for the sake of a memory, of momentary happiness. Okay, I don't know much of what I'm saying, but I think life is too absurd to learn anything we can try, 'cause why not what other options do we have... But inherently there's no lessons or purpose or meaning at all to any of it. In defense of nihilism, on the grounds of where everything rests.
If that’s what you want to believe...Nihilism can give solace for a time to those who either choose to not think about the deeper meaning of things or even those who have just given up the search, but in time such a philosophy only degrades the soul, trades our individual destiny for momentary pleasure and petty mundanity. LIFE is dual in its manifestation, you wouldn’t have the perception of “ nothing” if it wasn’t for the SOMETHING all around you. And even in theses intervals of “empty” space there is still SOMETHING. What that is only YOU can know and discover for yourself.
Interesting conversation. As an agnostic, I have always looked upon nihilism as a transitory state towards finding your own way to make life meaningful. Ironically, after some years of reflection I've found out that one of the most meaningful parts of life is to find meaning in life. Or all these reflections are just another stage in my midlife crisis, lol
The logical conclusion of atheism is abject nihilism though. Every single argument in favour of atheism at the present moment leads one into being forced to conclude that we live in a world that exists to no significance and which is ultimately going to end in the heat death of the universe which will condemn every facet of reality as we know it to fade into an eternity of nonexistence from which it will never re-emerge. It puts a question mark on the entire landscape of human civilisation and accomplishment as it strips us of any value as well as anything we do in life as everything we cherish and wish to preserve is all ultimately doomed to destruction at the end. I honestly think that atheists like gervais realise this and so have to construct scenes like this to try to present a perspective that shows atheism in a positive light, which in light of what following atheistic arguments down to the ground leaves you with comes off as a weak attempt to resist the undeniably depressing and borderline unliveable mindset that being an atheist leaves you with. If you’re courageous enough to try to fully embrace nihilism and not live as a living contradiction as gervais does when he says he disbelieves in free will but lives as though it exists due to not being able to face up to living as if he doesn’t
@@patrickmcardle952 That doesn't sound like nihilism or atheism. The end result of nihilsm is highlighting or exploiting flaws to end a flawed system and bring about something new. To accept that there isn't a grand creator of the universe doesn't mean you need to replace it with something else.
I would probably scream in despair if I discovered that life just goes on and on forever and ever, round and round for all eternity. On the other hand, I do wish life was longer. That's what we should be focusing on. How can we use our understanding of various scientific fields to create longer, healthier, happier, productive lives while sustaining a healthy planet?
JohnLondon1990 ...of course something needs to be done about overpopulation before we start talking about happier healthier & more full-filled lives. There's quite simply too many people having too many people ! Since the 1950's the world's human population has almost quadrupled!! Absolute insanity! ...Nevertheless I agree with your wish that life was longer. If this were the case then perhaps Clint Eastwood would be around for many more decades making movies, and The Rolling Stones would have quite a while to go until they're stepping out on stage with zimmer-frames!! 🎩
@@sirbarnabyst.johntoffingto9017 the only birthrates that have declined since the 1950s have been the white birth rates. I'm sure you have no problem with that, good luck trying to convince China to "depopulate". Disgusting idea in the first place.
Try working in a hospital and say life is too short. It's too long - we just end up old, forgotten and demented, being kept alive unnaturally with medicine and machines. We'd be better off dying 20 years earlier.
Yet the honest and accurate analogy would be, "would you watch a movie and completely have it forever erased from your memory immediately afterwards?". I believe the answer could be either yes or no - but it most certainly matters nothing.
Two way street, some could be living with depression or had a bad deal in life based on where they were born and what family they were brought up in. Someone can be living high and dry in a rich family or be poor and starving or have abusive parents, physical or mental illness etc etc. Life can be great, but it can also be hell for some and as bad as it may sound, I can understand why some opt for suicide. Sure you'll be dead, but any pain you had is gone.
I believe in the idea of living vicariously through others. Suicide is NEVER the option if you have loved ones or people that care greatly about you. You will ruin so many lives if you end your own.
John DiMaggio that’s not taking into consideration the life of the person considering suicide. They’re the victim here, of mental agony. Not “the loved ones.” It’s not up to others to tell someone not to kill themselves if that’s all they wanna do. Wanting to keep someone around because YOU love them and care about them is egoistic.
I think the girl who is quiet during these interactions is by far one of the best characters. She adds a dimension to these scenes. It almost plays out like a podcast.
FriendlyMan join the club. This is what 's annoying about all this "live your life as if it's your last day" shit!, a lot of us are introverted, self-conscious , cursed with shyness or whatever...we can't all go out there and be what we'd love to be.
@@jimmythemadostrich8947 You shouldn't live your life as if its your last day, you'd just be doing something fun and life is about being miserable and not having fun.
The latest season had me in tears when he sits and watches the videos of his late wife, like he does, but in this one they they talk about who will die first. He sits there in tears and raises her a glass of red whine. Absolute sadness. Ifyouknowyouknow
As an atheist, I can confirm this has never happened to me. Usually their only response is: "Ah, okay. Cool." I don't know why TV shows and movies make a big deal about a character being an atheist. People generally don't make a big deal of it.
It does happen to me often. That is why I rarely speak about my atheism. It's annoying. Maybe because I'm Mexican and Mexico is still a very religious country.
I refrain from telling people I'm athiest until we're friends because I've had a few experiences (not many, but still) where people began grilling me about my beliefs after they found out I don't share their faith (whatever faith that may be). I found it very annoying. Especially as a 20 year old just chilling with friends on campus when one of them asked me what religion I am during a bit of causal conversation. She was taken aback and said "I can't believe you're one of THOSE athiests" when I told her. She spent the rest of lunch trying to convince me I'm agnostic, not athiest. As if that would have been a victory for her. Faith (or the lack of) shouldn't be a competition, but some folks definitely like to treat it that way... including some atheists I know. Wierd.
My answer would be: You're right. This is the best your life is gonna get. You will have to make the best of it. After all, after you die you will spend an eternity in hell, no chance of happiness, peace, joy or without pain. It's a meaningless chase of the wind.... Trust in Jesus and you won't need this nonsense of grief with your own futility. There is life after death and this life is worth living. You are loved. God can strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees.
Exactly. It irritates me, this clip, because of the awful portrayal of Theism asking questions which shouldn't be asked, rather than asking the intellectual alternative which Gervais couldn't answer to.
Contrived is right. Imagine Ricky sitting in his £20million Hampstead mansion, or possibly in his plush apartment overlooking central park, writing this feeling pleased with himself .
The problem that’s inherent in trying to prove there is a God is that you have free will and can believe what you want. If I believe and I do there is one true God, and his great charter is to spread the good news that death is not final you can and will have eternal life, and peace only through his son Jesus. I and everyone else should take that as something to consider or not consider I will have to answer for how I choose to believe and live as will all of you. On a different note I do like the conversation in these clips because it isn’t yelling and talking over each other.
Some day you'll host the golden globes for the last time
That'll be a sad day for us all.
"Shut up, shut up, I don't care"
Not because Ricky Gervais committed suicide.
@@JackAzz212 "I'm Kidding, i never did!"
@@adrianoliani4701 unlike Jeffery Epstein
At one point he says "Id rather be nowhere with her, than somewhere without her". This show has some beautiful dialogue
Except nowhere isn't somewhere anyone can be.
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Sir Barnaby St.John Toffington you obviously haven't seen the bedsit/shithole I've been living in for five long soul-less years!
Sir Barnaby St.John Toffington ok libtard. Answer me this, they make up 13% of 50% bitch
darktennisball
...13% of 50%? ... My assumption is that you are speaking of the subatomic structure of the majority of the known elements!
i.e the atom , it's cloud of electrons and the nucleus - where science has led us to believe that the majority of the mass of each atom is made up of 99.94% attributed to the nucleus! That is of course apart from the Hydrogen - 1 atom, which has no nucleus, and not to mention the Hydron Ion which has no electron. God alone knows why!
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It’s just dialogue. Not dialogs. This isn’t two logs, its conversation
The way she completely misses the point, answers with something stupid, and thinks she's right, is WAY too accurate.
Seems to Happen every time when you talk to a Woke Liberal regarding Logic and Reasoning
Don’t be so fast to judge. Ricky makes some good points, but that doesn’t mean he disproved anything. I’m not saying I believe in the afterlife, but I’m also not saying I don’t believe in it
There's no way you can guarantee she (and the people you talk to who react similarly) missed the point and didn't understand the other viewpoint. It could just be that they disagree and feel like there's no point in arguing further since on some subjects some people are unlikely to reach common ground
@@shauryakumar1423 only the likes of Ben Shapiro can handle the power of facts and logic
I don’t think that’s what’s happening. My interpretation is that she knows there’s no rebuttal there so she gave herself an out by directing the conversation somewhere else, and he lets her. Both displayed emotional intelligence at the end.
I think Ricky just made this character, so he can adress all people that (propably) constantly questions atheism, without having to constantly come with the same responses.
@@Techvi what about on twitter? He has mentioned that he argues with people on twitter about various subjects.
And you sound very angry :P
@@91rumpnisse Where does he sound angry ?
@@mart_en I dont remember. I cant view the original comment that responded to mine. I think it had something to do with Techvis text looking a bit aggressive.
Nah, you think?
At end of the day no one knows what happens when we die. There are many possibilites. No can say for sure that there is or isn't an after life.
Just because someone doesn't believe in afterlife doesn't mean they will go around hurting people and do bad things
Neros Ego he can. But will he?
@@Johnsilver813 would you say the same about the renouned scientists or philosophers? I take it that most of them weren't atheists but all of them were seekers right?
@@Johnsilver813 My dear friend, logic and science tells us to think rationally. Don't take just about anything at face value. You have to judge and look into the matter in order to get something out of it. If you have nothing in your hands, you got to start with something as meager as yourself. If you don't even believe in yourself, not one bit it's really unfortunate. But even in that scenario you have to consider that this world or this universe is not a small room. So the chance of you being an absolute loner in some scenario would always tend to zero. And Nietzsche also acknowledged that surviving is finding the truth why you suffered right? You got to find and fight before you give up. If you be a pacifist ok, a nihilistic you're still in the game. But if you become an escapist it's most unfortunate.
@@Johnsilver813 Man is a rational animal. We have brains to think. So why should we give up before meeting the end of line, before looking at the abyss? It's exactly what Richie said here. You can be an antheist and still have your ethics, morals, ideals, do-s and don'ts in your every day life. You have to keep looking at it, keep seeking the truth. You know Buddha was skeptical/ Agnostical to God's existence but he firmly believed in the afterlife. Existence is not a lie. Matter and energy reciprocally creates each other in a proportionate way, says the freaking theory of relativity. 👍
If you do good things only because you’re afraid of going to hell, then you’re a shitty person. Do you only love your parents because a book told you you’re going to hell if you do? Besides, by your logic, it wouldn’t make sense to not believe in afterlife and do what you want, everyone should do what they want for 1/4 of their life and spend the rest asking for forgiveness anyway.
As a man of much faith, I've never seen someone describe and explain atheism so beautifully.
You could describe life the same way with a faith based perspective...
I agree. I mean even as someone who does believe in heaven and hell. I don't think that was ever the point. It is about being good to people. Being a good person to everyone around you regardless of what they may do or say to you because that's how you make a better world.
I'm atheist when someone talks about god, when it's about afterlife i do believe there is otherwise what's the point?
@@lad4830 I'm pretty sure that comes under being agnostic, but I'm not sure.
I’ve never seen a man of much faith talk about atheism so beautifully, respect to you my friend! 🤙🏼
I'm literally having an existential crisis and this appeared
Just don't overthink. All that matters is now and today. Go play your favourite sport, go out on a date, go play your favourite video game or whatever it is that brings you joy and meaning. Our time on earth is short but don't think about death, think about living your life!
@@blitheixgaming1289 "Go play your favourite sport, go out on a date, go play your favourite video game or whatever it is that brings you joy and meaning" - HAHAHAHAHAHA, there is nothing more pathetic. Egoinsm and mere low bottom pleasure? Really?))) What if someone doesn't have a girlfriend? And he can't just get her? What if you are poor, you want a good PC, but ain't got one? What now? I don't need answers like "just get it", you know there are people who just don't have what you mentioned.
So your position is just based on living in developed rich coutry today, wich is not in war condition, while not being born poor - is that all what you base your thinking? What makes that guy thinks that there ever going to be last meal, what if he's wrong?
That is the quesiton he didn't adressed nor did he answered it. So why he talks like he is 100% on truth side, what makes him thnk that? His bias? Or he is just in comfort zone, same as you? Face it - atheism doesn't answer questions, no matter if i am as christian right or wrong, it doesn't. It does "no you" thing and blindly follows it's own narrative, not proving it's point.
You know why atheism doesn't bother to give answers and give points? Becuase it cannot. So then what is the basis for accepting it if there is none? Faith? That's why i'm not an atheistm and any smart person should too, christian or not, it's stupid, heavilly biased/pre-just and self-righteous.
I know, that's why i ain't one anymore. No any sort of crysis after that, or i can have possibility that i'll go to Heaven (if i truly follow it and help other to as well), or: 1. blank nothingness, no reason, no furute, 2. hell. Chose well, mate.
@@sgorgardr227 Alright buddy. U do you.
Think deeply about your life and what happaned to you, why it happened, who is guilty for it, it is not you, I assure you, but they will try to convince that the evil that other people do to you is your fault and they will tell you not to think about it.
@@sgorgardr227 bro,do a tl;dr.
i lost my wife, she was 39. i miss her every day. this program is so me.
I hope you are doing better. Hugs from norway
No One can understand your pain... But don't be afraid to be sad and cry.
@Eda I hope not.
@@quotesandstuf how do you delete someone elses comment
@@taylorw9138 You wanna delete mine ?
Seeing this comment section full of people getting mad about him “winning an argument he made up in the shower” or “making atheists look smart and theists look dumb” makes me confused. Neither of those things were the point of this scene at all. The scene was about only living once and spending your time as best you can. About appreciating every little thing about life because you won’t be able to forever. I don’t see how these characters simply having a discussion about life could be taken as an insult to anyone.
People these days are chosing to get offended just so they can create some sort of reason to desagree and/or discuss with other people. They aren't really ofended, they just want a "good" reason to yell at others. It is a way to make them feel better about themselves and worse about those who they desagree with. Dark times.
@@quantinum2141 Or i just like to discuss with people who have different opinions,if they're reasonable it can be eye opening, if they're stupid you can laugh at them,bot possibilities end up with me feeling better than before the discussion
@@lad4830 you missed the point. I'm not talking about you, because you clearly won't get offended just because I disagree with you. You actually want to listen to others, I'm talking about those that just wanna feel like they are right and the opposite opinion is wrong. Clearly, not your case.
Yeah this wasn't really an "argument" at all. It was just a dude calmly and respectfully explaining his worldview. I see how the girl's initially brash behavior can be somewhat interpreted as an insult to religious people, but considering she calmed down immediately when he was done explaining she wasn't painted in a remotely bad light at the end of the day.
But when your arguing with believe you have to remember the point of views are different for example your right the scene is said well but for a Christian like me that does not bother me because there is an afterlife and according to the Bible it’s is a new earth and the things we love will be there are long as they are good and not evil things so the scene would not apply to believers because we don’t only live once according to God and atheist will continue seeing things just not in a good position there but with believers is that there is life after death it’s actually sad to hear atheist speak that way from our point of view we don’t want them to have to be in a position where for them that is the only life they get to enjoy when there is more of course even that has to different point of views there are atheist who hate life and don’t believe in God simply cause they suffered which is understandable but they missed the point on what God states cause they want God to be there way of thinking and therefore life is horrible and they prefer being dead to end there suffering so even among atheist they fight each other’s way of thinking
She plays the role of Karl Pilkington if it wasn’t obvious.
Crippycooke id say she and his mate were both extensions of Pilks
Crippycooke Karl’s soulmate
Isn’t Karl an atheist but he just talks about heaven like it’s real
@@thedeathmonkey3891 I'd say he's agnostic. He frequently quotes the bible but is skeptical. He can't wrap his head around the fact that we're nothing and our lives don't matter.
@Ice Hockey is Pretty Pretty Good His Mum said "don't tell anyone that you're not anything" ... something about witches...
I want to appreciate just how calm this conversation is.
I will add the fact that it is “unrealistically calm” based on personal experience 😂
@@ccf3294 No it's not, if theist confronts atheist it's always like that, it gets heated when it's the other way around
@@lad4830 I have had theists confront me about my atheism before. I would say Theists do get angrier when an atheist confronts them but they really have come at me with some anger of their own before.
@@ccf3294 Of Course The Theist Will Get Angry, THEY'RE HAVING DEVASTATING DESPAIR SHOVED DOWN THEIR THROATS.
@@Praying_Light_Force And I’ll shove it down their throats some more hahahhaha
Ricky: Pseudo-philosopher
Karlpilkybois : True philosopher
Even more fascinating that that is that most scientists that ever walked this earth believed in a creator/God.
@@BrightRomeo Have you got any stats on that?
Plenty. And if u don't believe me, just Google scientists who believe in God/creator. I don't think you ever heard of Sir Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein or many others. Do you live under a rock ? Is that rock called atheism ?
@@BrightRomeo Dude you got defensive really fast. You can search atheist scientists on Google too. I am saying have you got any stats to back up that statement of yours?
~ Bright Romeo ~ I draw lewd art of Jesus for a living x
Funny that some people that do believe in heaven or hell still go around raping and murdering as much as they want. The promise of an afterlife is meaningless in truth.
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i’ve never someone capturing what i wanted to say in such a wise way!
Well the main difference is that theists who go around raping and murdering are logically inconsistent while atheists who do the same thing follow the path to its logical ends, I hope u get it, well I think u do and u r just strawmanning the theistic narrative.
@@osamaesmael1260 TF are you talking about ?
@Scott Scotty if you are to follow the path of atheism to its logical ends = there will be no inherent meaning in life, no good, no bad, no right no wrong, ''it's just DNA and we dance on its music" as Dawkins wrote in his book. As such, morality will surely become arbitrary and will be just a personal taste.
that's why you cannot compare between a religious person who murders (in which case they won't be consistent with their worldview) and an atheist who murders (in which case they will be consistent with their worldview).
I have so much respect for RG now... I have never seen anyone do that in a movie or TV show
You need to watch more film and TV.
Watch God's Not Dead it's so epic
@@mayflower2370 jesus fucking christ
@@lukess.s He really did it?
I watched God's Not Dead, i like Kevin Sorbo, but it's nothing more than a Christian Propaganda Film, in the end, Sorbo goes to a christian concert because he is an atheist, and on the way he gets hit by a car and is dying and a priest comes out from nowhere and asks him to believe in god and he will guide him blag blag blag, anyway, it was good until the end, then you could purely see it was nothing more than pointless drivel.
Kevin Sorbo is a hardcore christian by the way.
Usually in other typical movies they'd argue the F Out about this sort of topic, but this one is so chill and lovely. I love it. No hard feelings.
If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
-Marcus Aurelius
Absolutely love Diane Morgan, she's brilliant.
4 yrs later but thank you for saying who she is…I’ve spent far too long this morning trying to figure it out. Cheers! :)
“If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of shit” - “Rust”, True Detective
That's life. Everything is business. We work to earn money. Why? So we can live, but food, and pay our expenses. Why? So we can live do the things we want. Nothing in life is free. It seems like everything is a trade off or a transaction. Including kindness and decency.
@@theintrovertedaspie9095 In many instances for sure. And for some love is only transactional, maybe all love is transactional but don't think so. If I could die to see more around me succeed in life I would, more than happily. I love most of the time becuase I want to see other people's lives better whether it benefits me or not.
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No, you're self-reporting as a trash person. Morality doesn't leave wiggle room for your bottom line.
Ahhh how he's got a point. As a religious man, cherishing the years we have here is very important, even if and when we go to the other side, everything we do here counts. Because we never will come back here, and one day we'll be somewhere else. Cherish those you have here and you love, one day, they wont be here, and the day's without them will seem like centuries. God bless you all lads and lasses
So in an afterlife u dont get to meet family or loved one?
@@The_Lost_One Why it is my belief that in heaven you'll meet those you care for most!
@Akshay 004 what were you before this life then? And why educate yourself and work for a living. Just live your life with ignorance, you can never escape your fate, everything is predestined. You die you live again. If you want moksha, Buddhism is your best bet. Primitive beliefs
But that is contrary to what the Bible puts on the table. The bible promises you eternal life after this one, and tells you that this one is only to praise god and worship at his feet.
Christianity makes life into a dirty carpet for you to rub the dirt off of your shoes before entering the limitless house of god.
What are 80 years compared to infinity?
Its a stupid wager where you give the gift you have in your hands for a better one you "might" get.
@@indrajithak47 Ummmm.....from your statement it looks like you really don't understand the concept of karma too well. And Hinduism has the concept of moksha too which predates Buddhism.
Ngl, the busty redhead secretary really does it for me
Down bad
Damn you horny on main
She’s an hilarious comedian - search philomena crunk for some of her content
@@josharnold3450 thanks bro! 😄
Bonk
Makes you think don't it? If this is it?!How much more beautiful is life.!? Maybe we would love more! Care more!! Be more!! Live more!! If this is it!!!
I've never heard of this show until I saw this clip. I just binged the whole first season and I couldn't recommend it more highly. Brilliant look at depression, suicidal inclinations, and perseverance with a purpose.
I hope we appreciate this man enough when he's alive. He's got a beautiful heart, and a real knowledge of the human condition. The master of bittersweet comedy.
I'll remember u rememberg him
Oh dear lord yoy guys would believe anything if the actor was charming enough
one of the best scenes in an amazing series
In wich episode was this scenes ?
I lost my mum a few weeks back and did that speech at her funeral, it caused a very positive reaction.
@John Mercer ,and for yours .
It Didn't Cause Devastating Despair?
@@Praying_Light_ForceEven if buddisim is real the you as you are will not return. But the secret door can only be opened when it's time. Maybe we can come back as long as there is life, maybe not. Maybe our actions matter, maybe not. But as long as we can think, we can appreciate life now
I've never thought about life like this until now.
I didn't think Ricky Gervais was quite so smug and self - satisfied until now.
@@jimmythemadostrich8947 So I guess this was the first thing from him you've ever seen then?
Maybe if you weren't so busy rewatching Ride Along 2 . . .
@@jimmythemadostrich8947 I'm sorry but maybe you should watch films that you can understand. Umm.. maybe.. like Ride Along 2? I think it fits you.
Sarcasm Never seen him look quite so smugly pleased with himself as he does at about 1:37.
As for Ride Along 2, never heard of it until you mentioned it. Wondering what Ricky's problem is with Kevin Hart, though?
....if you can throw some light.....
SAMET ..I refer the honourable gentlemen to the answer I gave to Sarcasm.
But really, that death is the end is an educated guess. I'm slowly outgrowing my existential fear of death and moving into "I don't know" territory.
That’s true, no one can prove what certainly happens after we die. We will all find out soon enough though. I believe because I was nonexistent for billions of years then came into existence, I can come into existence again after I die, possibly as a different organism. Even if it takes millions or trillions of years. If there’s a multiverse...
You can believe in an afterlife and still fear death, I'm an atheist, I don't think death is the end, but I do believe it will be bigger than any change I've ever experienced and change is naturally scary, also my family will fall to pieces and I don't want that to happen. Plus the only thing we know about death is that it is one way, that is terrifying, what if the afterlife doesn't have fish fingers?
No, that's silly. You're relying on the logic argument that you can't prove a negative. I can't prove there's no afterlife. I also can't prove there are no unicorns, but believing in them just because I can't prove they don't exist is silly, just like believing in an afterlife. Here's another "educated guess" - before we're born our souls exist as angels that swim around inside the sun. Since you can't prove that's not true, it must be true. See what I mean?
@@kilroy2517 Um, that's not what I'm doing and I don't believe I wrote my comment like that? I take it like this, the reason we think death is the end is that our grossly overestimated intuition tells us so, because well, it turns out if you get mauled by an animal you stop moving and never move again. Or, at some point in your old age your heart stops beating because reasons (Scars are at fault most of the time).
Yeah there are an infinite amount of things that can happen after our brain decides to turn off, and if you just stick with "That's it for everyone" it's unlikely to be true when stacked against (Potential) infinity.
But besides probabilities, we just lack info. I'd like some.
@@BygoneT Well, the sad part for me is that if I'm right, I'll never get to say "I told you so"
holy shit, that's very insightful.
@dylan t lmao
@dylan t not really
@dylan t nothing inherently narcissistic in atheism, and a sense of the world not revolving around yourself and caring about others isnt exclusive to belief in a deity.
@dylan t Yes, it is so much more narcissistic than believing that there is an all-powerful deity that takes a vested interest in your every day life and created the universe just for you😑
@dylan t buddy do u even know the definition of narcissism? doesnt sound like it.
(If it matters) Coming from a catholic, Ricky could not be more right. In the end, hundreds of thousands of years from now, no ones gonna care what you believed, who you believed, what your daily routine was or what you did for a living. Life is precious. Live it to the fullest extent because no matter what we all die and only you can decide how you live it.
About two years back after I got off of work one night, I went to fill up my gas tank at an arco down the street from my house.
As I was filling up my car, a young blonde lady probably in her early thirties asked if I had some spare change to help get her out of town. I looked over at her truck and saw it was filled with random things she probably took out of her house as if she was moving out. I told her after I finished filling my car up I’d fill her truck up no problem. She said thank you and we got to talking about her life and this guy she was with and how he mistreated her and she was trying to get away from him and this and that and we ended up having a real heart-to-heart conversation about life and such. She asked me if I was religious and I told her that I wasn’t and she asked if I believed in heaven and hell and all of that and I told her I didn’t. I told her that without the idea of heaven or hell being real places we go when we die, it’s really helped motivate me to be a better person for the people around me and the people I hold close and dear to my heart. It’s really changed my outlook on life and made me realize there are no redos and we don’t get any other chances - this is all there is so we need to make the most out of it. That’s why I don’t ever take anything to granted anymore and I really try and make every day count and let the people in my life know that I love them very much because any time I see them could be my last.
She said I was really kind and she appreciated what I did for her. She asked for my phone number and I had given it to her and that was that. She drove off and I never talked to or saw her again.
It was a really humbling experience.
@YamiYami17 just because one doesn't believe there is a God, doesn't mean they can't tell the difference between good and bad.
@YamiYami17 objective moral truth is not necessarily linked to God tho. Just because one is able to act with certain morals in mind is not proof that God exists.
@YamiYami17 I can't. That's the point of freedom. Everyone is free to choose how they act, and while I would disagree with said persons morals, I wouldn't be able to objectively say that he is wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own choices. Either way he would be reprimanded for any of those acts since there is a basic set of morals that is accepted within the majority of societies. Really, it comes down to the fact that we follow what we were taught as children and now take it as fact, but someone could have easily been told something else at a young age causing a difference in morals. The other person is wrong in my eyes and I am wrong in his.
This was surprisingly beautiful. Ricky made me feel something other than just laughter? Wild
Ironically in the Christain mythology, suicide isn't actually a sin, it was added later because this, you actually had the opposite happen, Christains wouldn't see a reason to live if the afterlife in heaven was just a confession and suicide away.
I have a hard time believing this.
That said, religion isn't exactly my number one topic of discussion.
it was always a sin as it was taking a life- your own. A christian can still commit suicide and go to heaven but just like anyone who commits suicide you’re going to miss so much that would lay ahead of you if you stayed on earth. Suicides never the option no matter what the situation.
@@citrus4419 are you trying to contradict yourself as much as possible?
My brother you just wrote about 7 sentences without saying anything.
@@sirweebs2914 nah i was just making clear that in the bible it never says that if you commit suicide you’ll go to hell if you are truly born again. Then i was saying that suicide isn’t good to do. No contradictions it was a pretty easy to understand paragraph i wrote.
Even if not stated directly, one of the ten commandments is that one should not kill. If you commit suicide, then that means that the last thing you did while on earth was kill someone i.e. you, which is a sin, for which you have no time to redeem.
This program, After Life, is a multilevel work of art. I don’t know how anyone could create this story with these characters without experiencing the death of their spouse first hand.
I like how the lady is a little bit convinced by his words. When she said she watched the movie 5 times, he states that she *didn't* waste her time and that just makes it special.
i think that bit was sarcastic. Not sure though.
@@jathinkotian5885That's the british accent
This show saved my life
All of the side characters in this show are so relatable! Ricky really nailed this show, writing arguments and therefore controlling both sides of the debate takes a certain touch of genius.
Some people hate their life to that extent that their greatest reward is an afterlife
I believe that something always goes somewhere when it's time in a specific existence has come to an end, not exactly heaven or hell but just somewhere else in this endless universe
When you do not desire anyone’s God, treasure , or people, you find the answer to life.
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
― Marcus Aurelius
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
Napoleon Bonaparte
Bullshit, pepole have manners, i don't belive in gid, pretty struggeling with money right now, and i still won't kill the rich
@@shunakiyama6275 Napoleon lived in different times chief, in his times people were killing however they wanted,because it was really easy to get away with it,now it's like 99% chance to get captured in first 2 weeks
@@shunakiyama6275 sus
Tell that to ISIS
“Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain and presumptuous desire for a second one” - Richard Dawkins
Dawkins is a wannabe
@@appleonion5830 So was Jesus.
@@CactusCowboyDan Not in the slightest
@@appleonion5830 Actaully yes. More then slight.
@@CactusCowboyDan Dawkins is a physicist with no business in philosphy who barely has something new or worth bringing to the table, Jesus was a carpenter who managed but heads with the highest ranks of the Temple, and managed to cause the collapse of an entire civilisation that put him to death.
Until Dawkins quits acting like a a newly atheist teen and more like a Mark Twain he always will be a wannabe.
Love the way he explains life and treasuring every moment of life
That's What Theists Do, They Believe Every Single Thing They Do In Life Matters Infinitely And Eternally And That They Have Only So Little Time Before Their Life Ends And They Are Judged For It.
0:59 That and, also, we only live this day. That's a subtlety not many of us would grasp. We got zero control if we would ever wake up the next day.
This was a amazing show. Ricky is outstanding.
Hope that everyone here is okay. Please know that people care about you, even if it may not feel like it at times. If you are feeling troubled, maybe professional help is the answer, or talking to a trusted friend about what you are going through. Wish you all the best.
This has definitely been on Ricky’s mind for a long time.
What I love about this show, is that Ricky's Character is slowly starting to find things he loves again. He said about how you never know when its gonna be your last so do everything with passion, and you can see in this video when he talks to Kath the passion behind his words and the smile at the end. He has fun making jokes and talking to her, she's his comic relief and she doesn't even know it. Sometimes even small things can be so important.
i have no idea what i’m watching or who these people are but this man speaking straight facts
That line is fucking genius.
“Why don’t you just go around raping and murdering as much as you want.”
“I do. I do go around raping and murdering as much as I want, which is none at all.”
Gervais is such a good writer. Very insightful guy.
Speak louder Gervis can't hear you wax his tank from there
That line was first said by Penn Jillet
I liked how Ricky Smiled at the end like in his own way he still had respect for her to hold her own in a debate without acting out.
I’d argue that someone who doesn’t think this world truly matters, or that if they just feel bad every once in a while about being a shitbag then theyre forgiven by the only one who does matter, they are intrinsically a much more dangerous person because of their perceived ez forgiveness pass. Its like someone saying “its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission”
In religions like Islam, you have to truly regret your action to be forgiven. U can’t kill someone and then say forgive me god and ur forgiven
@@PokemonDude880 well yes but the idea is an atheist is a good person because they want to be and a relgious person is a good person because they feel like they have to
@@exxodia13 everyone’s idea of a “good person” is different though. A rapist would think raping is good for example
@@PokemonDude880 nah i bet they dont think its good i bet they know its bad and either dont care or think they can get away with it
@@exxodia13 that’s all just your “bet”. The idea of a “good person” isn’t universal. Atheists who think killing religious people is “good” isn’t a universal idea in everyone
I believe in God and Heaven/Hell, but I love Ricky’s line. And I’d like to add to it from the other side. If you’re watching a movie, and you know there’s a sequel to it that you know will be incredible, should you cut the first movie off early to get to the sequel faster? Or should you enjoy the first one as much as possible, knowing you’ll never be able to watch it again once you get to the sequel?
@YamiYami17 People who kill themselves are already in hell. Depression is no joke.
@Scott Scotty Partner, I think Frederico meant that living with depression is the Hell.
No need to jump into the old talking points without a deeper reading.
What he said..teaches me something..and im glad i loved everyone that comes into my life the best i could.
I’m only 14 but I’m already having an existential crisis, but hearing this helped a bit
You're not alone,my friend.Never been.
I used to have the same thing at your age, my tip for you is to not think about it too much and enjoy your childhood
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This show helped me so much when my husband passed..
“I have everything to live for, I just have nothing to die for.”
Wow, that’s a genius response and the best part about it is that it’s true.
Perfect explanation as to way life has meaning. Enjoy it while you can.😀
I believe there is "something" and I am not an atheist yet I agree with him as far as do life. Tell that person you love them because you one day that opportunity may not be there. Hug them, love them, make sure they know they matter to you now. When you do that, life becomes more meaningful.
How does it become more meaningful?
"You can believe in an afterlife, if that makes you feel better. It doesn't mean it's true." Exactly this.
Yep, this is why I'm agnostic. Religion is kinda irrelevant to me. There's plenty of reasons to do good and avoid bad that have nothing to do with religion. But I'm not against religious ppl since any day it could turn out that they were right, or any day we might learn that atheists were right. It doesn't matter much to me though. Believe in whatever you want to believe in, it's probably just another name for humanity anyway.
@Heracles N Hmmm... Sorry if I misunderstood you, but I think I might agree. I mean, many ways in which you can find relief, either by believing in Heaven or by simply thinking that you helped someone and did the right thing. I know that saying religion is completely irrelevant is a bit of an exaggeration. My point was that I try not to dwell too much on it, since it's kind of an uncertainty, which makes me uncomfortable with putting most of my judgements on it.
Again, sry if I missed your point.
i sometimes thought religions are created by humans to make a socially stable environment back then. Think about it, without the absence of religions from the start, ppl would have no fear of doing something wrong and cruel to others and themself, other than the consequences from the law.
But now, i think religions are getting out of hands with their strict rules. Sure some religion are flexible and can change its rules as time goes by, but some of them.... My eyes observed that the only target now is money and power that will keep a religion going. Ppl sell their beliefs and benefit them as if they own them. It was supposed to straighten humanity, but now it is used to straighten their cashflow. Thats what i don't like about it.
this is just my opinion i don't hate on other because i know that we will never know what journey awaits us at the end.
Your morality is subjective. God’s isn’t.
@@theskinman1948 But then again, what if God isn't real? What do we do then?
@@mascotwithadinosaur9353 Then let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.
Rewatching a movie will never be as good as seeing it the first time
I've been questioning live lately, especially the "afterlife". (Never believed in any religion btw) I really needed this clip tbh. Gonna watch the whole show tomorrow.
A lot of people miss the point of this common topic. The point is that morals have a subconscious religious motivation even for so called "atheists". They just dont understand it. She was right that logically there is no reason not to harm others for your own well being if you won't get caught(it happens all the time btw) but most people don't do it because they have conscience like he said. BUT they never stop and think what that actually is. Conscience is the deep rooted fear that if you do something bad, that you will be judged for it by SOMETHING. That thought is ingrained in our minds because thats how we think it SHOULD BE. If we are not judged what is the point of anything? You could say "yeah I am judging myself" but it doesnt explain why you feel bad about it or why you feel like you SHOULD feel bad about it. He kinda indirectly points to the fact that life derives its meaning from you trying to live it in the best way possible and you imposing certain rules on yourself. If you disregard them it feels almost like you would lose your meaning of life. Judgement gives our life meaning. Breaking your morals that for basically equals to losing your life. This is a lot closer to bible teachings than he realizes. Morals(the word of god) in the example of the bible are personified by Jesus. Doing that is basically the definition of believing in Jesus (thats something a lot of christians don't get either). If you reject them you lose your (eternal) life. This theme of "rightousness = life" and "sin = death" goes back even to the old testament were the afterlife wasnt explicitly refered to but only hinted at. Even if you think its all rubbish you could at least acknowledge the philosophy behind it.
It's probably just me but I find her to be really beautiful.
Ricky is a hero to all us logical types
It's quite telling when (in real life) religious people say stuff like, "Well, if God doesn't exist, then everything is permissible." Gives you an insight into how they might desire to be if, in their minds, a sky daddy wasn't watching.
The interesting thing is the major catastrophes that the world has seen has been ninety five percent due to religion.. the other 5% is women and land/ food
“The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again.”
-Achilleus
Atheist, or spiritual person, I think we can all benefit from viewing the “meaning of life” as LIFE itself rather than some ulterior purpose that has no substance of itself. If you are on the side of LIFE as an atheist I have no qualms against you. It’s the nihilists, those who deny life of its meaning in any form, that I can’t quite understand. Even then we are each on our own journey through this endless journey of LIFE and if being nihilist or an atheist is the game you want to play then go and live it, and learn the lessons that THIS life has to teach you.
Learn the lessons? For what? There's no exams later. Once you learn something everything else has changed, the same things never repeat themselves. And if they do repeat, it's like going through a triller film with all the spoilers in your head, and the movie starts to suck. It's always a choice between suffering or boredom, while perpetually chasing delusions for the sake of a memory, of momentary happiness. Okay, I don't know much of what I'm saying, but I think life is too absurd to learn anything we can try, 'cause why not what other options do we have... But inherently there's no lessons or purpose or meaning at all to any of it. In defense of nihilism, on the grounds of where everything rests.
If that’s what you want to believe...Nihilism can give solace for a time to those who either choose to not think about the deeper meaning of things or even those who have just given up the search, but in time such a philosophy only degrades the soul, trades our individual destiny for momentary pleasure and petty mundanity. LIFE is dual in its manifestation, you wouldn’t have the perception of “ nothing” if it wasn’t for the SOMETHING all around you. And even in theses intervals of “empty” space there is still SOMETHING. What that is only YOU can know and discover for yourself.
Interesting conversation. As an agnostic, I have always looked upon nihilism as a transitory state towards finding your own way to make life meaningful. Ironically, after some years of reflection I've found out that one of the most meaningful parts of life is to find meaning in life. Or all these reflections are just another stage in my midlife crisis, lol
The logical conclusion of atheism is abject nihilism though. Every single argument in favour of atheism at the present moment leads one into being forced to conclude that we live in a world that exists to no significance and which is ultimately going to end in the heat death of the universe which will condemn every facet of reality as we know it to fade into an eternity of nonexistence from which it will never re-emerge. It puts a question mark on the entire landscape of human civilisation and accomplishment as it strips us of any value as well as anything we do in life as everything we cherish and wish to preserve is all ultimately doomed to destruction at the end. I honestly think that atheists like gervais realise this and so have to construct scenes like this to try to present a perspective that shows atheism in a positive light, which in light of what following atheistic arguments down to the ground leaves you with comes off as a weak attempt to resist the undeniably depressing and borderline unliveable mindset that being an atheist leaves you with. If you’re courageous enough to try to fully embrace nihilism and not live as a living contradiction as gervais does when he says he disbelieves in free will but lives as though it exists due to not being able to face up to living as if he doesn’t
@@patrickmcardle952 That doesn't sound like nihilism or atheism. The end result of nihilsm is highlighting or exploiting flaws to end a flawed system and bring about something new. To accept that there isn't a grand creator of the universe doesn't mean you need to replace it with something else.
I would probably scream in despair if I discovered that life just goes on and on forever and ever, round and round for all eternity. On the other hand, I do wish life was longer. That's what we should be focusing on. How can we use our understanding of various scientific fields to create longer, healthier, happier, productive lives while sustaining a healthy planet?
John London...that's a great comment. 👍
Remember John, you're here forever. The ride never ends.
JohnLondon1990
...of course something needs to be done about overpopulation before we start talking about happier healthier & more full-filled lives. There's quite simply too many people having too many people ! Since the 1950's the world's human population has almost quadrupled!! Absolute insanity!
...Nevertheless I agree with your wish that life was longer. If this were the case then perhaps Clint Eastwood would be around for many more decades making movies, and The Rolling Stones would have quite a while to go until they're stepping out on stage with zimmer-frames!!
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@@sirbarnabyst.johntoffingto9017 the only birthrates that have declined since the 1950s have been the white birth rates. I'm sure you have no problem with that, good luck trying to convince China to "depopulate". Disgusting idea in the first place.
Try working in a hospital and say life is too short. It's too long - we just end up old, forgotten and demented, being kept alive unnaturally with medicine and machines. We'd be better off dying 20 years earlier.
That was actually surprisingly gentle for a Ricky Gervais scene lmao
Hello sam harris fans
End cultural Marxism.
I am here from Ricky Gervais retweeting Sam !
Who?
@@iim4xii129 Donald Trump
@@frazerduncan356 whenever someone uses that term, you know they're an idiot.
This is a great conversation.
Yet the honest and accurate analogy would be, "would you watch a movie and completely have it forever erased from your memory immediately afterwards?". I believe the answer could be either yes or no - but it most certainly matters nothing.
Superb, enough said
Two way street, some could be living with depression or had a bad deal in life based on where they were born and what family they were brought up in.
Someone can be living high and dry in a rich family or be poor and starving or have abusive parents, physical or mental illness etc etc.
Life can be great, but it can also be hell for some and as bad as it may sound, I can understand why some opt for suicide. Sure you'll be dead, but any pain you had is gone.
I believe in the idea of living vicariously through others. Suicide is NEVER the option if you have loved ones or people that care greatly about you. You will ruin so many lives if you end your own.
John DiMaggio that’s not taking into consideration the life of the person considering suicide. They’re the victim here, of mental agony. Not “the loved ones.” It’s not up to others to tell someone not to kill themselves if that’s all they wanna do. Wanting to keep someone around because YOU love them and care about them is egoistic.
I think the girl who is quiet during these interactions is by far one of the best characters. She adds a dimension to these scenes. It almost plays out like a podcast.
People really do confuse atheists with nihilists .
Probably because Atheism forces nihilistic thoughts if you’re smart enough, and any other type of thought if you were not.
@@mohamedalahmadani5174 there's nothing smart about nihilism. Don't compare it to atheism.
@@akhilnair1137
Nihilists are basically children.
This scene made me tear up
It's how he quickly responds "I am" and "I don't" that gets me😂😂😂
I'd guess that the most probable afterlife is identical to our pre-life. Which we have all experienced. The state of not existing before birth.
Even though he's basically right, and I tell myself this all the time, I still can't motivate myself to do or achieve anything at all
Sure. You shouldn't pressure.
FriendlyMan join the club. This is what 's annoying about all this "live your life as if it's your last day" shit!, a lot of us are introverted, self-conscious , cursed with shyness or whatever...we can't all go out there and be what we'd love to be.
You getting enough vitamins?
@@jimmythemadostrich8947 You shouldn't live your life as if its your last day, you'd just be doing something fun and life is about being miserable and not having fun.
The latest season had me in tears when he sits and watches the videos of his late wife, like he does, but in this one they they talk about who will die first.
He sits there in tears and raises her a glass of red whine. Absolute sadness.
Ifyouknowyouknow
As an atheist, I can confirm this has never happened to me. Usually their only response is: "Ah, okay. Cool." I don't know why TV shows and movies make a big deal about a character being an atheist. People generally don't make a big deal of it.
It does happen to me often. That is why I rarely speak about my atheism. It's annoying. Maybe because I'm Mexican and Mexico is still a very religious country.
@@silencio00 Oh shit. I'm Mexican too. What up, primo?
pretty much depends where you live
I refrain from telling people I'm athiest until we're friends because I've had a few experiences (not many, but still) where people began grilling me about my beliefs after they found out I don't share their faith (whatever faith that may be).
I found it very annoying. Especially as a 20 year old just chilling with friends on campus when one of them asked me what religion I am during a bit of causal conversation. She was taken aback and said "I can't believe you're one of THOSE athiests" when I told her.
She spent the rest of lunch trying to convince me I'm agnostic, not athiest. As if that would have been a victory for her.
Faith (or the lack of) shouldn't be a competition, but some folks definitely like to treat it that way... including some atheists I know.
Wierd.
@@Kishan_Baijnath I actually kinda enjoy it. Like... if they're respectful about it. If they're assholes, then I just leave and cut them out.
Goddamn perfectly put:) Bravo.
This one particular clip made more sense than 1000 hrs. Of UA-cam time on the "meaning of life"
Thanks a lot
Masterpiece!
Show name
*_"Everything you love, with passion"_*
*_Hitler: aight np_*
There’s absolutely a force that created all this
Yeah physics
@@Prizrak0415 Consciousness cannot be created by unconscious nothingness
@@buzznfrog6702 so where did your god come from, nothing? Where?
@@Prizrak0415 We are no built to understand it. That’s why people kill each other over it.
My answer would be: You're right. This is the best your life is gonna get. You will have to make the best of it. After all, after you die you will spend an eternity in hell, no chance of happiness, peace, joy or without pain. It's a meaningless chase of the wind.... Trust in Jesus and you won't need this nonsense of grief with your own futility. There is life after death and this life is worth living. You are loved. God can strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees.
Exactly. It irritates me, this clip, because of the awful portrayal of Theism asking questions which shouldn't be asked, rather than asking the intellectual alternative which Gervais couldn't answer to.
"God is gay" - Kurt Cobain
Amen
Technically. God is all genders (including attack helicopter)
And where is he now.
We get it you're an atheist you don't have to be so rude about it
“And Kurt Cobain is dead” - God
You're free to believe whatever you want, but this life, we can only experience it once, treasure it
Brilliant series.
I love this show
Having another life after death basically means you can correct your mistakes later
Having a singular existence means you can only get it right once
Wonderful scene
Rather a contrived scene if you ask me.
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Contrived is right. Imagine Ricky sitting in his £20million Hampstead mansion, or possibly in his plush apartment overlooking central park, writing this feeling pleased with himself .
That was actually really beautiful
Did you not notice the overly obvious strawman?
And she doesnt even acknowledge the point he makes
Just like a real christian
True Christian!
God bless her. Ramen.
Hold the fort, they're coming!
The problem that’s inherent in trying to prove there is a God is that you have free will and can believe what you want. If I believe and I do there is one true God, and his great charter is to spread the good news that death is not final you can and will have eternal life, and peace only through his son Jesus. I and everyone else should take that as something to consider or not consider I will have to answer for how I choose to believe and live as will all of you. On a different note I do like the conversation in these clips because it isn’t yelling and talking over each other.
@@oodestro25 it's the "only through Jesus/*inserts your imaginary friend*" part that's the problem.
@@MKTheGreat depends on what you think that means.
That's why I think most religious people do good things because they expect a reward, not because they understand it is the right thing to do.
100% truth, especially those that always claim to be Christian. Like what do you want a cookie?