I love this. I play french horn. Everyone says saxophone sounds sexy but the french horn is sexy too. You have to play it right tho. French horn I'd challenging but its a beautiful instrument. So thank you Dave, for sharing your talent!!!!!!!!
What absolutely gorgeous playing! What an inspiration, and, for a young composer, an education: an exposition of what horns can and ought to sound like.
Absolutely beautiful. Wish I could play the high notes this well. I think I have a bad embouchure because my lips hurt when I play and get a puffy ring on them from the mouthpiece.I can only reach the high "G" (one octave above middle "G) about 1/3 of the time, but I can reach a low "G" 3 octaves below that with almost no problem. I almost think I should have been picked for tuba, but I was such a tiny little thing when I joined band the director probably thought I couldn't lift a tuba.
it's a Bb single horn, with an A+ stop valve, and natural F 5th rotor for the open F horn tones. there is only one valve cluster so it's not a double or descant horn, and the use of his thumb for the pedal F and extra tubing in the back is the natural F section.
I think the valve closest to the mouthpiece actually is a stopvalve, for when playing stopped notes. Since muting the horn with the hand raises the tone aboute a semitone or so (makes the horn "shorter"), some horns are fitted with a second thumbvalve to lower the note accordingly (making the horn "long enough" again).
+rodrigueskorn Medical bills, living expenses, and student debt. I got acute tonsillitis (and almost died from it) and failed out of college. I ended up selling pretty much everything I owned, which was fine. Except for my horn. In good news, my family pooled together and got me a decent intermediate horn for my birthday last year! I sound like a dying giraffe but I'm so freakin' happy to have a horn again.
Khiarhu , I understand. So sad you having to go through those problems. Fortunately, you own a horn again. I hope you're better today. It's really good to be happy, so stay happy and stay strong too. Keep the horn sounding loud and in a good tone! :)
Thank you for the explanation. I looked in almost a dozen dictionaries of musical terms but not one had it. 'Snarling' is exactly the word I would have chosen for the sound elicited from the instruments by this instruction!
I'm not a horn player, but I can answer your question. "Gest." is short for "gestopft", the German word for "stopped." This is the instruction for the horn player to stick his hand into the bell of the horn in a certain way to get a buzzy, snarling sound. It's used often by composers, and became prevalent as a tone color beginning in the second half of the 19th century. In english-speaking countries, it's usually called "hand-stopping".
Wow, just realized this comment of mine got so many likes 9 months after posting it. 10th grade horn player now. I have experimented in other instruments such as trumpet, baritone, tuba, and of course mellophone for marching season, and still find the horn to be the most enjoyable. The point you made about embouchure is very true, as the french horn embouchure is unique. I'm a little more mature now in my understanding of why the horn is actually harder, and anybody who wonders can ask me.
Another famous moment of hand-stopping is the very beginning of Mahler 9, where in the fourth bar, the second horn plays the beginning of its motive "stopped", and then in the second half of the fifth bar is immediately asked to play "naturally".
@melvinoffsky I don't think it is the horn that makes the player, but the player and his/her dedication to the music that can make a really great player. I had a professional Horn player tell me once that it doesn't matter what horn you have, to an extent, you will play any horn with your sound and make music.
@Thecrazykielbasa An A-stoop It is use'd to make it esyer, if you are going to play as neutral French Horn. Then you just press it down and then you dont have to worry about the change of your finger settings. But I would say that is is'nt esye to use. Best Regards Apoesk21
@ilovefrenchhorn35 I'm an oboist and I started by playing clarinet first which is pretty common. The embouchure is very different, and you'll have to learn new fingerings, but with practice it's not too bad. The most difficult thing about playing oboe is finding (or making) a good reed. Good luck!
This is possibly the hottest French horn player who ever lived....and he sounds better educated and better spoken than anyone in the royal family (as well as sharing a similar accent). The biggest bonus: he plays the BEST instrument a person could play: the French horn of course.
Question to horn players from flute player (i.e. someone who knows nothing about the horn): there's a passage near the beginning of Sibelius Symphony 4 when the term "gest." is written above the two horn parts. What does "gest." mean? Thanks for any enlightenment on this!
Getting the proper tone out of a naturally sharp instrument by using your hand to adjust pitch isn't always easy. The embouchure horn players use is different than other brass players. The mouthpiece is placed with 2/3 on the upper lip. With a single fingering a horn player can hit an amazing amount of notes. The horn also has one of the greatest pitch ranges of any instrument. I play horn and bassoon. Fingerings on basson are just as easy. Out of curiosity, what musical expierience do you have?
it looks like a double horn but in the close-up it looks like there are two triggers. i'm betting its a double horn because of the lack of tubing where the high f tubing should be
Thank you I am originally a woodwind but i got my French horn in May and it is tough. i got the F horn so I only has 3 valves and its hard, I can never get the high notes. I prefer my Flute because i am used to the notes
Thats kind of like saying that the trombone has no keys so its not a challenge. there are over 20 notes on the horn because it depends on how you blow.
I think it's the woodwind equivalent of the oboe (just my opinion since I've played both). The French horn is THE HARDEST of all, which is partly why there are so few who "grow to maturity." Keep on playing...and don't play other instruments if you can help it. Your embouchure must remain pure. (: If you have to play anything else, say for marching, make sure you get an adaptor and play on things like the Mellophone.
Cole Drinkwater My best guess is that it's a second 'trigger' valve, making it a triple horn. These have three sets of slides, tuned with the standard F and Bb, with the third usually in either Eb or soprano F. It is designed to give the players greater security in the higher registers, but at the expense of increased weight, a potentially compromised sound due to the mathematical proportions of the piping, and of course the fact that something like that pretty much is only available at the professional level and is priced accordingly.
French Horns are one of the hardest instruments to play. I would know, I'm in beginner band, and I play French Horn. There are 3 valves* and 1 trigger. There's only three valves because the rest of the notes-we have to move our aperture. You have to have fast air, correct posture, correct tonguing, and correct aperture. I would like to see you pick up a French Horn and master it. Go take a music class, thank you.
Agreed, even play for 5 minutes in a row is very challenging. French horn has a small mouthpiece making it hard to play. Advance French Horn players can play for very long but they have to build up muscle in their mouth. So what am saying is don't be trick on how many values it has. Is trumput any easier? Yes because of the mouthpiece but just because it has three values that doesn't make it an easy instrument
I don't understand how using a triple is cheating. He is a pro and his job depends on how well he can play, if you ask any other professionals in any field not just music if they could upgrade a tool to improve their job security I don't think any of them would say no.
I am a tenor sax players,our 3 french horns have not left the instrument room in a few years because no kid is brave enough to get it.I tried to play it and I sounded like a fucked up whalllllez
french horns is the hardest instrument im not just saying this because i play it it has been proven! the buttons are not the challenging part it the tuning and your hand and how your mouth sets on the mouthpiece and you have to press the right button IT IS THE MOST CHALLENGING INSTRUMENT!!!!
16 combinations to play a notes, alternative fingerings to each not to make it go in tune, and not to mention smallest mouthpiece in the brass section that also has the highest demand for range low and high. Why do you think it made its way into the guiness book of world records for hardest instrument
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I love this. I play french horn. Everyone says saxophone sounds sexy but the french horn is sexy too. You have to play it right tho. French horn I'd challenging but its a beautiful instrument. So thank you Dave, for sharing your talent!!!!!!!!
This guy does everything perfectly
What absolutely gorgeous playing! What an inspiration, and, for a young composer, an education: an exposition of what horns can and ought to sound like.
As a clarinet player, I still approve this message.
Awesome Musician! I was fortunate to be in amasterclass and recital by Mr. Pyatt
Absolutely beautiful. Wish I could play the high notes this well. I think I have a bad embouchure because my lips hurt when I play and get a puffy ring on them from the mouthpiece.I can only reach the high "G" (one octave above middle "G) about 1/3 of the time, but I can reach a low "G" 3 octaves below that with almost no problem. I almost think I should have been picked for tuba, but I was such a tiny little thing when I joined band the director probably thought I couldn't lift a tuba.
it's a Bb single horn, with an A+ stop valve, and natural F 5th rotor for the open F horn tones. there is only one valve cluster so it's not a double or descant horn, and the use of his thumb for the pedal F and extra tubing in the back is the natural F section.
Actually, french horn is (according to the Guinness Book of World Records) the most difficult instrument to play.
Take heart, French Horns are a vital part of any advanced band. Stick with it, and you'll most likely go places.
@Thecrazykielbasa - It is a Bb/F Horn with a A-stoop
I think the valve closest to the mouthpiece actually is a stopvalve, for when playing stopped notes. Since muting the horn with the hand raises the tone aboute a semitone or so (makes the horn "shorter"), some horns are fitted with a second thumbvalve to lower the note accordingly (making the horn "long enough" again).
I miss my horn so badly...having to sell it was the most heartbreaking.... you play beautifully, thank you for sharing.
My case is opposite. I might be getting a horn soon sooooooooooo happy!
@cole did you get it yet?!
+Jensen Goslyn Why would you sold it?
+rodrigueskorn Medical bills, living expenses, and student debt. I got acute tonsillitis (and almost died from it) and failed out of college. I ended up selling pretty much everything I owned, which was fine. Except for my horn. In good news, my family pooled together and got me a decent intermediate horn for my birthday last year! I sound like a dying giraffe but I'm so freakin' happy to have a horn again.
Khiarhu
, I understand. So sad you having to go through those problems. Fortunately, you own a horn again. I hope you're better today. It's really good to be happy, so stay happy and stay strong too. Keep the horn sounding loud and in a good tone! :)
Correction, it is a triple horn so it has 3 rotors, and 2 triggers, making a total of 5 valves.
2. There are actually 5, as this is a compensating double horn with a stopping valve (Paxman 33).
Thank you for the explanation. I looked in almost a dozen dictionaries of musical terms but not one had it. 'Snarling' is exactly the word I would have chosen for the sound elicited from the instruments by this instruction!
I'm not a horn player, but I can answer your question. "Gest." is short for "gestopft", the German word for "stopped." This is the instruction for the horn player to stick his hand into the bell of the horn in a certain way to get a buzzy, snarling sound. It's used often by composers, and became prevalent as a tone color beginning in the second half of the 19th century. In english-speaking countries, it's usually called "hand-stopping".
Wow, just realized this comment of mine got so many likes 9 months after posting it. 10th grade horn player now. I have experimented in other instruments such as trumpet, baritone, tuba, and of course mellophone for marching season, and still find the horn to be the most enjoyable. The point you made about embouchure is very true, as the french horn embouchure is unique. I'm a little more mature now in my understanding of why the horn is actually harder, and anybody who wonders can ask me.
Thanks for your time It was quite helpful indeed. All the best
Gran leccion sr. David, se nota mucho tu gran tecnica, asi como tu impresionante musicalidad. Enhorabuena
Among other things I like the stress he places on breathing correctly. Good video.
@jrwhorn2626 Yup, the 8D is the standard sound for American horns.
Another famous moment of hand-stopping is the very beginning of Mahler 9, where in the fourth bar, the second horn plays the beginning of its motive "stopped", and then in the second half of the fifth bar is immediately asked to play "naturally".
I play the French horn and love it so thanks for the tips
you are on your way my friend
just made my day
@melvinoffsky I don't think it is the horn that makes the player, but the player and his/her dedication to the music that can make a really great player. I had a professional Horn player tell me once that it doesn't matter what horn you have, to an extent, you will play any horn with your sound and make music.
Great playing, very musical and easy going
@Thecrazykielbasa An A-stoop It is use'd to make it esyer, if you are going to play as neutral French Horn. Then you just press it down and then you dont have to worry about the change of your finger settings. But I would say that is is'nt esye to use.
Best Regards
Apoesk21
Oh thanks! It wasn't too late, I was just curious, and I'm on youtube often enough
i know its a bit late, but @pizazzify let me know that there are five rotary valves, an indicative of a triple horn. hope it still helps
@ilovefrenchhorn35 I'm an oboist and I started by playing clarinet first which is pretty common. The embouchure is very different, and you'll have to learn new fingerings, but with practice it's not too bad. The most difficult thing about playing oboe is finding (or making) a good reed. Good luck!
Super helpful. Especially MSND. Thank you!
oh snap, i completely missed that. thanks for letting me know :)
This is very impressing considering the french horn is one of the hardest instrument in the orchestra.
This is possibly the hottest French horn player who ever lived....and he sounds better educated and better spoken than anyone in the royal family (as well as sharing a similar accent). The biggest bonus: he plays the BEST instrument a person could play: the French horn of course.
Question to horn players from flute player (i.e. someone who knows nothing about the horn): there's a passage near the beginning of Sibelius Symphony 4 when the term "gest." is written above the two horn parts. What does "gest." mean? Thanks for any enlightenment on this!
Getting the proper tone out of a naturally sharp instrument by using your hand to adjust pitch isn't always easy. The embouchure horn players use is different than other brass players. The mouthpiece is placed with 2/3 on the upper lip. With a single fingering a horn player can hit an amazing amount of notes. The horn also has one of the greatest pitch ranges of any instrument. I play horn and bassoon. Fingerings on basson are just as easy. Out of curiosity, what musical expierience do you have?
What a wonderful player David is,and thank god,unlike a professional football earning a million a month,,he can actually talk intelligently.
Looks to be a Paxman 45 descant in Bflat/Falto with 5 rotors (A stopping rotor I'm guessing)
I play French horn! :D F HORN RULES
Was the last note in the first movement an E flat? I didn't realize horn could go THAT low.
Looks like a compensating double descant, standing in Bb. That's one hell of a horn.
Depends on the horn....doubles have 4 (w/trigger) and F horns have just 3.
and the horn that this guy is using (descant horn) actually has FIVE valves (two thumb triggers).
I'm trying to play the Weber concertino for my Horn and I've played for a few years
I'm supposed to play it next year
Looks like a Paxman model 33 compensating F/Bb double horn with A-+ valve, standing in F.
I wish I could play a wind instrument. I love the french horn.
it looks like a double horn but in the close-up it looks like there are two triggers. i'm betting its a double horn because of the lack of tubing where the high f tubing should be
@apoesk21 What is an a-stoop?
Thank you I am originally a woodwind but i got my French horn in May and it is tough. i got the F horn so I only has 3 valves and its hard, I can never get the high notes. I prefer my Flute because i am used to the notes
@StealthyCarrot999 dont get cocky. For every pep/jazz/concert/school band in the world there is someone just as talented if not more than you.
@melvinoffsky what does that mean? That conn 8D's are "basically not even real horns anyways"? Just curious. I'm testing out a conn 8D at the moment.
Why do you have four rotors? What kind of horn do you have?
Thanks :)
they also have to know the partial of each note they play or it will not come out the way you want it
how can i get rid of to wat it sounds like a bird chirping wen i play my horn?
TRRRRRRRRRRRRAaaaaaaaaaaa.
i can could bearly get clear notes
JC Ayala embouchre
Thats kind of like saying that the trombone has no keys so its not a challenge. there are over 20 notes on the horn because it depends on how you blow.
I think it's the woodwind equivalent of the oboe (just my opinion since I've played both). The French horn is THE HARDEST of all, which is partly why there are so few who "grow to maturity."
Keep on playing...and don't play other instruments if you can help it. Your embouchure must remain pure. (: If you have to play anything else, say for marching, make sure you get an adaptor and play on things like the Mellophone.
@TyrantRave0 ?
omg you can click and drag the subtitles
@melvinoffsky Pyatt is amazing, one of the best in the world. Still, don't bash the 8D. Lots of fantastic horn players still use them.
What kind of horn is he playing?
What does the fifth rotary valve do?
Cole Drinkwater My best guess is that it's a second 'trigger' valve, making it a triple horn. These have three sets of slides, tuned with the standard F and Bb, with the third usually in either Eb or soprano F. It is designed to give the players greater security in the higher registers, but at the expense of increased weight, a potentially compromised sound due to the mathematical proportions of the piping, and of course the fact that something like that pretty much is only available at the professional level and is priced accordingly.
+Nick Hadfield It looks like a compensating triple.
Its not because of how many notes you can hit out of the harmonic series of the Horn.
Thnx for the tips XD it actually helped
Wow, come on man. We all love the horn, there's no point in bickering.
This is epic. I'm lead French horn in my hs band
I believe is playing a compensating triple horn.
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French horn forever!
also i play well but im still learning have u even played it cause if u havent then step off!!
@Agomongo1235 Yeah some just call hit "Horn" because it's no French, but it doesn't really matter :p
@Starbuckluva44 Read the title of the video...
Is that a Double or Triple horn?
Me too
ive just got my grade 3 french and learnt some vital tips on breathing and timing so thanks very. btw i got 115 out of 150
French Horns are one of the hardest instruments to play. I would know, I'm in beginner band, and I play French Horn. There are 3 valves* and 1 trigger. There's only three valves because the rest of the notes-we have to move our aperture. You have to have fast air, correct posture, correct tonguing, and correct aperture. I would like to see you pick up a French Horn and master it. Go take a music class, thank you.
He sounds quite muffled, I wish the mic setup could be a bit better for that. It’s upsetting for his wonderful sound to be corrupted like that
You could hear that too?
Agreed,
even play for 5 minutes in a row is very challenging. French horn has a small mouthpiece making it hard to play. Advance French Horn players can play for very long but they have to build up muscle in their mouth. So what am saying is don't be trick on how many values it has. Is trumput any easier? Yes because of the mouthpiece but just because it has three values that doesn't make it an easy instrument
I don't understand how using a triple is cheating. He is a pro and his job depends on how well he can play, if you ask any other professionals in any field not just music if they could upgrade a tool to improve their job security I don't think any of them would say no.
Jacob Kadan I would personally use a triple if I could, but I don't have any idea how to use it haha
wow
What kind of Horn is that
@mlongpre17 I'm sure he's keenly interested in your views.
YEAH!! YEAH!! YEAH!! notice the Horns!
Omg what kind of horn is that?? It has like five rotary 'coins'!!
@theiceman259 I think so!!!
I am a tenor sax players,our 3 french horns have not left the instrument room in a few years because no kid is brave enough to get it.I tried to play it and I sounded like a fucked up whalllllez
french horns is the hardest instrument im not just saying this because i play it it has been proven! the buttons are not the challenging part it the tuning and your hand and how your mouth sets on the mouthpiece and you have to press the right button IT IS THE MOST CHALLENGING INSTRUMENT!!!!
16 combinations to play a notes, alternative fingerings to each not to make it go in tune, and not to mention smallest mouthpiece in the brass section that also has the highest demand for range low and high. Why do you think it made its way into the guiness book of world records for hardest instrument
Also, correct embouchure.
why isn't there a vocal masterclass....
cool! i play flute too
Lets see you play French Horn and see how well you can do. If it's easy, you should be able to play the most challenging of excerpts.
ya
five valves?!
there are five rotors though
sorry.....thought you just said there are more then 20 note to a horn
the miking means that you can hear his valves which can get a bit annoying :( but great video!
I am in last chair in band. I play Fhorn and i am in 7th grade and i dont even know my note i just hear the trumpets play so i copy them