Right on, he's using physics, trigonometry and atmospheric awareness, not to mention how to apply it all within his range of motion (kinesiology ), in real time and under life and death pressure.
In Endgame, when Hulk snapped his finger one of the first indicators that it worked was the appearance of birds outside the window so my opinion is that it's safe to say the other half of animal life returned. Not factual but just a thought.
That seems to be the most logical conclusion. the forest in wakanda also became eerily quiet after thanos snapped - but note none of the trees surrounding them disappeared. I think that is as close to definitive as we can be on animals vs plants vs "intelligent beings" being snapped away
What I would say is cap came in saying whales were in the Hudson. Is that because of lack of food in open ocean or lack of ships or whatever causes them to not be there.
Also, in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. they go to the future and The Earth has been destroyed but was being held together by the metal gravatonium and they do turn off the gravity in that as well.
The problem with Captain America's shield is that vibranium is supposed to absorb all vibrations. That's why when Agent Carter fired those rounds at him in the first movie, they drop straight down and he wasn't hit with any recoil. Because of this, his shield should not bounce off of anything. It should simply hit something and fall.
its because it hit the shield face on that it deflects/stops the bullets making the shield absorb the hits due to the shield not moving but if he chucks it sideways and hits something with a single edge it bounces back before the edge can absorb the hit due to the shields size and speed it is chucked at. Its would work in real life if you could chuck it fast enough and hit the right type of angle.
@@kyunbataun5191 This is not about angles. Either the bullets should bounce off or the bullets should just drop after hitting the shield. That's a plot hole.
The writers have also connected the two universes. In one of their first crossover comics, Teen Titans/X-Men established that the Marvel Universe is on the other side of DC's source wall. They've also shown that both exist in each others multiverse as well as having several shared Earths that have hosted other crossover comics.
@@BaithNa I do like that one better. The connection I saw more specifically was: Stan Lee/Kevin Smith (Captain Marvel/Mallrats), Stan/Kevin/Neil (TBBT), Neil (Batman v. Superman).
That was my first thought when they mentioned Avatar. Loved The Core even though it got low ratings from critics. I don't listen to them anyway. We all have different likes and opinions .
The problem with 'We only need Captain Marvel.' is, there's only one. She doesn't have the ability to split herself into infinite versions so she can be wherever she's needed. Remember the line "There's a lot of worlds out there that don't have Avengers..." (or something like that.)
Yeah that's the inaccuracy, as a quantum being that's able to break those limitations to be able to travel through space the way she does she "should" have the ability to be in lack of other words: everyone, everywhere all at once... practically God :L
13:35 This isn't true, in the first Guardians movie Rocket turned off the artificial gravity system in the prison as part of his escape plan. So it is just understood that all of the ships also have similar systems.
The problem is movies like these uses the sci fi jargon trope that gravity is an energy like electricity that can be stored & utilised when necessary. Plus the problem of how the gravity is being isolated to operate within the confines of the ship & not radiate outwards causing things to get pulled towards the ship. Fantasy movies only apply sciencey stuff & converts it into hi-tech magic show.
on Civil War when fighting Spidey, he threw the shield without bouncing back to him but still came back to him to which Spidey commented "that doesn't obey the law of physics at all" I wished Neil could talk about that
Exactly it doesn't make sense that his shield returned after throwing it to cut spidey's web swing but when Spidey went for his legs and drops his shield he has to run to it to pick it up.
14:45 I think it was in Age of Ultron they followed the comic plot point where Stark modified the shield so it was magnetic and there was a device on Steve’s wrist to recall it. MOST of the time what you see is the shield bouncing though. That’s still weird because a property they give it is kinetic absorption which I imagine means it can’t bounce. This property is how Steve can block massive attacks and strikes from Mjolnir and stuff.
@@Zolgeist I don’t think that makes sense. The same shield exhibits entirely opposite properties. We aren’t just comparing one material to another. Thor, who can go toe to toe with the Hulk slammed down on a non superhuman and with the shield he was totally fine. If it was super bouncy both the shield and the hammer would have pushed off each other with tremendous force. For the sake of the story the shield does whatever is needed in a given scene.
Maybe the shield was made in a way that all stored vibrations and kinetic energy that are absorbed in the middle side of the shield is realised from the round edge sides of the shield...you know,that shield side which cap mostly use as a offensive weapon and for bouncing it...
@@tonuahmed4227 that’s creative. I like the way you think. I’m not sure that would work. Imagine the outside behaves like a bouncy ball. Imagine the inside absorbs kinetic energy. The outside would be touching the inside. The inside would be draining the kinetic energy from the outside. I think (I don’t know) that would work like if the outside was super hot and the inside was super cold. They would each make the other less effective. From what I’ve read about the shield it’s all the same material. Not effectively different materials in different places. I do like your idea though. Maybe a layer of super bouncy crap. A layer of kinetic insulation. And then mostly a shield design for kinetic absorption. I don’t know enough about physics to have any idea how that middle layer would work.
@@zero11010 In the comics they justify that properties by explaining the shield has vibranium core with an adamantium border. So that makes it bounce/cut when hit on borders and absorb energy on the center.
I love that no other metal objects are affected when he turns on the magnet 🤣, and that things got to be pretty powerful too! Also I hope cap keeps that thing away from his credit cards In falcon and winter soldier they don't have the magnet so I guess it's all trigonometry...
So, in the 1st GOTG movie they did address local gravity generators on a ship when the team escaped from the prison ship. It's not explained in the movies, but the super soldier serum also sharpened Steve Rogers' cognitive abilities to the point where he could instantly figure out where to throw his shield to make it ricochet back to him, even off of multiple objects.
4:23 They made it abundantly clear that plant life is not dusted (except Groot). The Snap happened in a forest in Wakanda, and we didn't see any blades of grass dusting. Wakanda's army would've choked to death otherwise.
I know right! I miss the old episodes where they were in the same room! I doubt they will go back to that though...It makes it much harder for them to get guests on the show
This video was just released today, and I’m no expert, but the discussion about the Avengers seems to be about a recent movie. Or is that he movie they’re talking about one that came out a few years ago? I’m pretty Avenger illiterate, so be kind. Lol
@@IanForsythWestCoast This is just clips from an old episode...I actually watched this episode when it first aired, you should go back and find the full episode because it was a really good one!
Not sure if comments already addresses this since Neil mentions not knowing how comics handled I believe the reasoning behind Thanos' actions - it was very different in the "Infinity Gauntlet" comic where basically Thanos is insanely in love at the time with the manifestation of the entity "Mistress Death" and culled the life of half the universe as a tribute to her (she wasn't particularly impressed).
That wasn't interesting enough for the movie. Making Thanos a mentally insane environmental extremist had more character and love sick wacko that wants to impress Mistress Death by killing half the population of the universe. Thanos being an environmentalist at least has us thinking about our behavior and exploitation of our world. Maybe there is a Thanos out there watching and ready to "balance" things if we let things get out of balance.
To be fair, there’s good reason to believe (at least within the comics) that Black Widow had been given small amounts of the super soldier serum when she was very young. This would be the same serum that was used with Steve Rogers, giving us Captain America.
Black widows did get a version of a super soldier serum it just want any way near as potent as caps. But it let's you know why she survived that fall. She is better than peak human
For Caps shield throw he does some very quick environmental physics to determine the best ricochet trajectory to have the shield return to him. Would love to here Neil talk about that one. The same with Spiderman's web swinging. The mentioned the same in the comics and the game.
The thing is, for me, that Caps shield is made of Vibranium, known for its ability to absorb impacts (ie Avengers when Thor “puts the hammer down”). How then would it be able to “bounce” back if it should in theory just absorb the hit and simply fall to the ground?
@@6stringvillain they are to different types of metals that come out of stars i guess thors hammers forged in the heart of a dying star and vibranium came from a meteorite
He doesn't actually "do" physics in his head. He's a super human, so he has super intuition. He just intuits with perfect accuracy where he needs to throw the shield to get the result he wants. Do you think a snake is doing physics in its head to strike a target perfectly? Do you do physics in your head to throw a ball at a target?
@@serious.business That’s kind of beyond the point of the statement I was trying to make lol. Cap for sure makes impeccable and instinctive throws, but I was curious as to why it didn’t just fall to the ground as soon as it hit an object.
The problem with cap Shield being made of vibranium is that vibranium is supposed to absorb vibrations. That's why the bullets that Hayley Atwells character fired at him dropped in the original Captain America movie. Because of this, his shield should not bounce off of anything. It should simply hit something and then drop.
In the scene after hulk clicks his fingers, it focuses on the signing of birds and animal life. ( I guess that symbolises that thanos wiped out half animal life as well ). Sorry if some one beat me to this.
13:45 Actually, in the first guardians of the galaxy movie, there is artificial gravity in the Kyln prison and Rocket deactivates it, so we can assume that the same tech is available for the starships.
I want to point out that the fictional element unobtanium was first used in The Core (2003) six years before Avatar (2009). Though the idea of unobtanium was actually "invented" by professor, lexicographer and editor Woodford Agee Heflin in 1958.
I was literally about to say that. And i think maybe they just never seen thay movie or just forgot about it. But that movie would be a better reference for their talk because in the movie they talk about thay material more in depth
A couple nerd things: 1) Banner isn't an MD, he's a physicist 2) that periodic table of fictional elements lists Adamantium as an element when it's an alloy
5:17 well after hulks snaps life back, suddenly there are more nature sounds outside the facility. so it perhaps did affect animal life, but we don't know to which degree.
It was stated several times in the movies that Thanos would destroy half of ALL life in the Universe. The problem was that it was only specified as being random and so it isn't clear whether it's exactly half of each species of life or just half of life in general. This would matter greatly as it could mean that only 20% of Human life was blipped but 95% of all cows were too which would of course leave a huge food shortage for the 5 Billion Humans that remained.
the cap question got me thinking, could he technically create enough rotational velocity to reverse direction of the force and have it come back to him? kind of like adding enough spin on a ball or hula-hoop for it to spin back to you at a point.
That is essentially boomerangs some of them use general shape of objects and aerodynamics to rotate the boomerang to a point where it comes back to you
The Cap shield throwing. It has been explained that his mind (altered with the super serum) calculates the bounce (high level math) so that it comes back to where he is, or where he plans to be.
It would only be polite to answer the question "I am Groot?" in the same language that it was asked. Therefore the answer would of course be "I am Groot!"
Quantum Tunnelling is not how Captain Marvel's powers operate, though there are many other characters in the Marvel multiverse that do travel this way. She must still fly to wherever she wants to be, though in Binary form she essentially becomes a light wave in flight. But she cannot teleport as does Nightcrawler or Pixie or Wiccan. I want to also note that many characters must access a scientific or magic outlet to teleport such as Doctor Strange. (He uses mystic energy to create a hole in timespace = portal.) Scarlet Witch must conjur specific magic to portal to a different location. Nightcrawler can teleport at will as that is his inate mutant ability.
So in the movie captain marvel explained why the world needs the avengers when she said it’s a lot of people in the universe but unfortunately they don’t have you guys
Good lord this was entertaining and informative. These guys are a perfect match. I am always astounded at how quickly Chuck comes up with his own analogies for the concepts they are discussing, which show not only that he's perfectly understanding Neil's explanations, but also extrapolating to another concept, AND makes it funny. (see: "Captain America is good at pool".)
Its stated that Caps shield absorbs all the energy of things that hit it so bullets should be dropping at his feet (without any sound, just heating it up) and so should his shield if it hits something after being thrown.
I’d argue the gravity generator is implied through showing weightlessness in space till they are pulled in by ravagers or quill landing on the ship in the first one. That’s what I thought at least or remember 🤷 now I got to go back and watch all the guardians again lol
@@deitrichpettus5452 yes, thats the original storyline of Infinity Saga in comics. Ao glad that they changed a hugely improvised script for the movies.
Something fascinating that I found out a while back is you can have a pretty sophisticated language with just the words I am and Groot. It all comes down to how it's said and like variations of how they say I, am, and Groot.
appreciate your respect for the Marvel universe standard of basing things in science. one item to note; Black Widow is hinted as having received some of the same super soldier serum as Capt America and Hawkeye has an uncanny gift of accuracy that is suggested to be a mutation of sorts. So they both are supposed to be extra normal.
The Cap shield coming back actually was explained in comics i think, he has extraordinary spacial awareness. Which means he knows how to angle the throw to bounce off of things so that it will always fly back to where he wants it to. The shield being vibranium helps as it looses no energy while flying or bouncing so it can bounce on forever, which, by right iinw, shouldn't be damaging at all towards anything it bounces off of as no energy was transferred. Being hit by a vibranium freesbee should have felt even less than having a cotton ball land on you
This was the most entertaining episode I've ever watched!! I loved all the clips, memes, humor, etc. Great job and thank you for brightening my evening!! I love intelligent people.
The big thing about the thanos snap what the mcu either didn't do or specify was that his snap of half of all life only applied to all sentient life specifically. At least thats how it worked in the comics.
While I like learning things, I click for Chuck's wit and your banter. Wanted to give him due credit for enhancing the experience; well-chosen sidekick (tho a philosopher might ask who's the sidekick here).
Neil generally refers to Chuck as his co-host rather than a sidekick, which I think is fair because Chuck is just as participatory as Neil, he doesn't necessarily _answer_ as many questions, but he asks great questions from a layman's POV so whatever subject they're discussing is made even more digestible and accessible to those of us without such an extensive background in science.
'Why does the shield come back to Captain America?' The same way Xena's chakram returns to her hand. It bounces. The chakram is a known weapon of old that really works like shown in Xena the warrior princess.
The problem is in the MCU not all of the Species are Animal based life forms (for example Groot), so removing half of them must include non animals also. The comic version of Infinity wars is very different ( the story is infinity Gauntlet and a sequel story the infinity war) and includes many more Higher beings in the marvel universe
Sentience is key. Plant life like Groot got snapped because it is a sentient humanoid with a soul Lower life forms (like grass, SOME insects, and other lower life that is used as resources) are not sentient (mind) nor do they have a soul
Hi Neil & Chuck, good insight on the MCU! I initially become attracted in astronomy and astrophysics after watching The Expanse series. Hopefully you can cover about them too in the future. Cheers
In the comics, Thanos is killing planets in order to woo an anthropomorphic personification of death. But not entirely, because no more life would mean no more death.
I always enjoy your content!! I watched Star Trek yesterday and I could almost hear Dr Tyson commenting on accuracies of silence in space. Keep up the great work guys!! And thank you for the laughter and knowledge!
They reference artificial gravity twice actually. Once in Guardians 1 during the prison escape, and the second is in Captain Marvel when Maria is flying into space and for a few seconds they are all weightless (including Goose that Fury reaches out for)
With the Thanos snap and ecology- wouldn’t that affect plant life because pollinators like bees and butterflies would also be cut in half. And depending on how picky you want to be when defining life, would bacteria be affected? I can’t imagine humans or other mammals would be doing well if half of our gut bacteria disappeared instantly.
concerning gut bacteria....if half of humans disappeared then half of human gut bacteria disappear with them, therefore 100% of surviving humans gut bacteria would remain intact
This was absolutely enjoyable! We appreciate the superior video editing, large carnivore guest speaker was cool, great humor between you and chuck, and lastly… even though I may need to go back a couple times to understand the gems y’all give out, it never fails y’all always manage to keep my fleeting attention span. So thank you 🙏🏽 😅
you need the other heroes because Captain Marvel protects other galaxies and their planets too so she's only around v during cosmic level events happening like Thanos plot
Its just how the guardians of the galaxies use Thor as a last resort. Nobody can beat him during their adventures if they need help they call Thor who then kills the enemy by himself effortlessly.
They did actually make it clear animals were gone too cause the first thing they noticed after hulk snapped was Hawkeye seeing the birds going crazy and flying around like they were greeting each-other
depends on what sword you would want because adamantium can cut through virtually anything but vibranium can't, it is also much more durable than vibranium and is denser whilst vibranium isn't , but vibranium is very much lighter than adamantium and also has less wind resistance so it would be able to be swung faster than a adamantium sword. there are also different types of vibrainium and adamantium as well.
Great video. Thank you. As an aside, I've always been of the opinion myself, that if there was any avenger who made the others pointless, then it was Iron Man. Because he could just design an assembly line for his suits, and have one of his many AI operate them 24/7. Captain Marvel, on the other hand, is, while very powerful, still just one person.
I still wonder how Captain Marvel is so powerful after exposure to one Infinity Stone, how does that stand up to being in possession of multiple stones?
@George Tasie Yes he would make them pointless but in battle the ai will lose esp with a battle like that of thanks Let me explain No matter how advanced an ai is they still have a pattern (reference start trek discovery season 2 final episode) and thanos is an advanced war lord so to say. He has seen all and will find a loophole to exploit My take on that
Hey Neil! Just thinking.. If the cap's shield is made of vibranium, and that supposely is a material that absorbs all kinetic energy. Shouldn't the shield just stop when it hits something like a piece of foam? I know it would make a boring movie but in my mind it looks strange to see it ricochet of stuff when it is imposed to be an absobing material.
If you extend that hypothesis, Cap cannot hurt anyone with the shield. The moment he hit someone with the shield, the shield will absorb all the energy. If there is no energy transfer, the other person wouldn’t feel a thing.😅
An issue I have with Infinity War and Endgame is the planet Vormir. Vormir’s proximity to a black would’ve created time dilation (Interstellar, anyone?). In essence, Thano’s time on Vormir would equate to decades on earth.
Great job Neil that was well done! Lol Groot, he does know who he is! While we don’t know what Thanos was really thinking, reducing the population by half is a direct attack on the Eternals, according to MCU lore. That’s also where most people are going to get lost..
Maybe his rage is so powerful it's able to pull actual matter from the ground and atmosphere around him, which is then converted to extra mass which makes him larger because.... pseudoscience?
There's a "theory"/propositional that nearly/about 85 (ish)% of apparent mass is energy? One branch theory (rabbit hole) is these are quantum derivative effects? Basically, if I understood the articles (likely not... LOL 😂) it would be like varying planes of existence? Not my theory (ain't near smart enough for that..😂) but it does raise interesting considerations. I would have looked up the paper to read the "source", but I've found I usually get lost in the equations...(calculus and above...)..
Well more simple explanation would be, if you ever trained, how you get larger !? You get 'larger' when new thicker and more fibers form from breaking them down. And because he was already injected with some kind of experimental super soldier serum, radiation triggered that genetic mutation so he is able to reverse genetical engineering where instead for Cortisol (stress hormone) backwards him in progress it makes him stronger. If we are going for more grounded 'realistic' explanation :)
Animal waste also fertilizes the ground for plants. Bees carry pollens and animals often carry seeds of plants. When animal finishes eating apples, pears and other fruit seeds fall on the ground in more locations.
The issue with the captain American shield is it it’s made out of Vibranium and it’s meant to absorb energy at which point it wouldn’t bounce it would just stop
Imagine Neil deGrasse Tyson is Captain Marvel of science educators. I think he would agree that there are large need for less capable science educators also, like e.g. science teachers. Neil can't do it all. So that is why there are need for lesser Avengers too, someone who shoots arrows etc.
Neil De Grasse Tyson as a Theoretical Physicist not an astrophysicist good job at the Hayden Planetarium mathematics was essential when I did my thesis on the Unified Field Theory especially the Reiman manifold or differential geometry and Ricci tensor and Maxwells Equations and lets not forget Gauss Laws what comics really teach the children of today about thought experiments Prof. M.J. Clark graduated from your high school class of 1968
Neil seems like one of the few people on earth who is happy and at peace , if you told him tomorrow was his last day I don't think it would change a thing for him . I don't know the man but his energy is always the same even in stressful situations .
As for the "magic frisbee" I've always assumed its because vibranium releases kinetic energy when it's stored enough in it. Hence the Vibr in Vibranium.
There's science with Hawkeye. If he needs to shoot a far target, he has to shoot upwards to compensate for gravity.
Haha
Right on, he's using physics, trigonometry and atmospheric awareness, not to mention how to apply it all within his range of motion (kinesiology ), in real time and under life and death pressure.
@@r.l.watkins1976 Was about to say the Same!!
He's very very accurate. Kinda OP in my opinion.
@@r.l.watkins1976 with infallible speed, accuracy and efficiency
In Endgame, when Hulk snapped his finger one of the first indicators that it worked was the appearance of birds outside the window so my opinion is that it's safe to say the other half of animal life returned. Not factual but just a thought.
That seems to be the most logical conclusion. the forest in wakanda also became eerily quiet after thanos snapped - but note none of the trees surrounding them disappeared. I think that is as close to definitive as we can be on animals vs plants vs "intelligent beings" being snapped away
Yep, agreed. The return of the birds as a sign shows that the animals were included. So what about carnivores plants? What happened to them?
What I would say is cap came in saying whales were in the Hudson. Is that because of lack of food in open ocean or lack of ships or whatever causes them to not be there.
imagine a bunch of crocodiles appear when zebras are crossing river
Definitely agree ✅
They do reference artificial gravity in the first Guardians movie. When they are escaping the prison they turn off the gravity so all the guards float
Which would therefore imply that all ships are built with artificial gravity systems
@@nggyunglyd2374 well it would imply that ship has artificial gravity
Yeah and it was the very first movie! :)
Also, in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. they go to the future and The Earth has been destroyed but was being held together by the metal gravatonium and they do turn off the gravity in that as well.
The problem with Captain America's shield is that vibranium is supposed to absorb all vibrations. That's why when Agent Carter fired those rounds at him in the first movie, they drop straight down and he wasn't hit with any recoil. Because of this, his shield should not bounce off of anything. It should simply hit something and fall.
its because it hit the shield face on that it deflects/stops the bullets making the shield absorb the hits due to the shield not moving but if he chucks it sideways and hits something with a single edge it bounces back before the edge can absorb the hit due to the shields size and speed it is chucked at. Its would work in real life if you could chuck it fast enough and hit the right type of angle.
That's just another plot hole. In other cases, Cap is able to use the shield to deflect machine gun bullets back at the shooter.
@@FirehawkTT depends on the angle of the trajectory
@@kyunbataun5191 This is not about angles. Either the bullets should bounce off or the bullets should just drop after hitting the shield. That's a plot hole.
@@FirehawkTT if the angle is straight on ..... The bullets with just drop .... If the angle is anything but straight on the bullets will deflect
Tony's AI during End Game was Friday, not Jarvis.
Most important thing to mentioned in the comments😂
Even if he got it correct, it wouldn't affect the point of the discussion lol
@@UnL1m1t3D38 It does. It reveals his unfamiliarity with the characters.
@@matanglawinXwe’re talking about science bro. you’re gonna be okay if there’s a slight error in an insignificant detail
As long as people gets what he's saying, there's no problem there. That's just a tiny pointless detail@@matanglawinX
Neil is one of the few that actually connects the MCU with DCEU.
Neil is officially IN the DCEU.
Apart from the millions of fans worldwide
The writers have also connected the two universes.
In one of their first crossover comics, Teen Titans/X-Men established that the Marvel Universe is on the other side of DC's source wall.
They've also shown that both exist in each others multiverse as well as having several shared Earths that have hosted other crossover comics.
@@BaithNa I do like that one better. The connection I saw more specifically was: Stan Lee/Kevin Smith (Captain Marvel/Mallrats), Stan/Kevin/Neil (TBBT), Neil (Batman v. Superman).
The M-She-U you mean
Neil always seems to be in a hurry and has no time. Love this guy
I've always felt that too!like he's always in a rushed state of mind and eyeing the clock!but he's a good dude
Maybe because he’s afraid of people finding out he’s actually a fraud unable to do solid philosophy - an armchair sophist.
@@kurtgodel6075 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why ? Guy is a patological lier.
@@kurtgodel6075 and this is based on your youtube and google knowledge?
Unobtanium was first mentioned in The Core (2003) movie long before Avatar (2009).
That was my first thought when they mentioned Avatar. Loved The Core even though it got low ratings from critics. I don't listen to them anyway. We all have different likes and opinions .
The term dates back to the 1950s.
I enjoy core movie
I actually just watched the core last night and was thinking the same thing
No wayy I had no idea, great movie though
The problem with 'We only need Captain Marvel.' is, there's only one. She doesn't have the ability to split herself into infinite versions so she can be wherever she's needed. Remember the line "There's a lot of worlds out there that don't have Avengers..." (or something like that.)
Yeah that's the inaccuracy, as a quantum being that's able to break those limitations to be able to travel through space the way she does she "should" have the ability to be in lack of other words: everyone, everywhere all at once... practically God :L
Neil is the only person that can make sounding like a nerd sound so cool that you want to be a nerd. Neil makes the word “nerd” a positive one
Nerds takin over now.
without nerds, we'll still be caveman 😁
Nerd isn't negative. People make it negative. Being a nerd is one of the most positive things that exists.
13:35 This isn't true, in the first Guardians movie Rocket turned off the artificial gravity system in the prison as part of his escape plan. So it is just understood that all of the ships also have similar systems.
wordup
Quill uses it in his ship at the start as well
The problem is movies like these uses the sci fi jargon trope that gravity is an energy like electricity that can be stored & utilised when necessary. Plus the problem of how the gravity is being isolated to operate within the confines of the ship & not radiate outwards causing things to get pulled towards the ship. Fantasy movies only apply sciencey stuff & converts it into hi-tech magic show.
@@changsangma1915 NOICE!
Yup
on Civil War when fighting Spidey, he threw the shield without bouncing back to him but still came back to him to which Spidey commented "that doesn't obey the law of physics at all" I wished Neil could talk about that
Probably because the earth is round (
@@JFLEEC NO WAYY😱
@@JFLEEC i thought it was tetrahedron
tetrahedron - best terra
Exactly it doesn't make sense that his shield returned after throwing it to cut spidey's web swing but when Spidey went for his legs and drops his shield he has to run to it to pick it up.
Wtf dk none of you know anything about the past cartoons and comics?
14:45 I think it was in Age of Ultron they followed the comic plot point where Stark modified the shield so it was magnetic and there was a device on Steve’s wrist to recall it. MOST of the time what you see is the shield bouncing though. That’s still weird because a property they give it is kinetic absorption which I imagine means it can’t bounce. This property is how Steve can block massive attacks and strikes from Mjolnir and stuff.
@@Zolgeist I don’t think that makes sense. The same shield exhibits entirely opposite properties. We aren’t just comparing one material to another.
Thor, who can go toe to toe with the Hulk slammed down on a non superhuman and with the shield he was totally fine.
If it was super bouncy both the shield and the hammer would have pushed off each other with tremendous force.
For the sake of the story the shield does whatever is needed in a given scene.
Maybe the shield was made in a way that all stored vibrations and kinetic energy that are absorbed in the middle side of the shield is realised from the round edge sides of the shield...you know,that shield side which cap mostly use as a offensive weapon and for bouncing it...
@@tonuahmed4227 that’s creative. I like the way you think. I’m not sure that would work. Imagine the outside behaves like a bouncy ball. Imagine the inside absorbs kinetic energy. The outside would be touching the inside. The inside would be draining the kinetic energy from the outside.
I think (I don’t know) that would work like if the outside was super hot and the inside was super cold. They would each make the other less effective.
From what I’ve read about the shield it’s all the same material. Not effectively different materials in different places. I do like your idea though.
Maybe a layer of super bouncy crap. A layer of kinetic insulation. And then mostly a shield design for kinetic absorption. I don’t know enough about physics to have any idea how that middle layer would work.
@@zero11010 In the comics they justify that properties by explaining the shield has vibranium core with an adamantium border. So that makes it bounce/cut when hit on borders and absorb energy on the center.
I love that no other metal objects are affected when he turns on the magnet 🤣, and that things got to be pretty powerful too! Also I hope cap keeps that thing away from his credit cards
In falcon and winter soldier they don't have the magnet so I guess it's all trigonometry...
So, in the 1st GOTG movie they did address local gravity generators on a ship when the team escaped from the prison ship.
It's not explained in the movies, but the super soldier serum also sharpened Steve Rogers' cognitive abilities to the point where he could instantly figure out where to throw his shield to make it ricochet back to him, even off of multiple objects.
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4:23 They made it abundantly clear that plant life is not dusted (except Groot). The Snap happened in a forest in Wakanda, and we didn't see any blades of grass dusting. Wakanda's army would've choked to death otherwise.
It's not animals vs plants. It's half of sentient life. Groot's species is sentient.
Obviously an older video. Interesting and I like it because Neil & Chuck are together in the room rather than on separate screens. 👍👍
I know right! I miss the old episodes where they were in the same room! I doubt they will go back to that though...It makes it much harder for them to get guests on the show
This video was just released today, and I’m no expert, but the discussion about the Avengers seems to be about a recent movie. Or is that he movie they’re talking about one that came out a few years ago?
I’m pretty Avenger illiterate, so be kind. Lol
@@IanForsythWestCoast Endgame is like... 2 or 3 years old at this point? Yeah 3 years old at this point.
@@IanForsythWestCoast The description says "We revisit our episode on Avengers: Endgame" and that movie came out in 2019.
@@IanForsythWestCoast This is just clips from an old episode...I actually watched this episode when it first aired, you should go back and find the full episode because it was a really good one!
Neil is really one of the most intellectual and fun guy...always love him to watch...and chuck is at his best as always...love this pair...
Not sure if comments already addresses this since Neil mentions not knowing how comics handled I believe the reasoning behind Thanos' actions - it was very different in the "Infinity Gauntlet" comic where basically Thanos is insanely in love at the time with the manifestation of the entity "Mistress Death" and culled the life of half the universe as a tribute to her (she wasn't particularly impressed).
That's the canon.. they changed a lot to translate to the screen and younger audience
That wasn't interesting enough for the movie. Making Thanos a mentally insane environmental extremist had more character and love sick wacko that wants to impress Mistress Death by killing half the population of the universe.
Thanos being an environmentalist at least has us thinking about our behavior and exploitation of our world. Maybe there is a Thanos out there watching and ready to "balance" things if we let things get out of balance.
she's never been impressed by Thanos.. but is always intrigued by DeadPool because he escapes death with his 4th wall breakdown
Yeah because she was hot for Deadpool
So basically the equivalent to Van Gogh gifting his ear to the lady he was courting.
11:08 - It's Mobin' Time!
13:12 Ooooo. So that's why the symbol for Infinity looks the way it looks. Love this channel so much.
To be fair, there’s good reason to believe (at least within the comics) that Black Widow had been given small amounts of the super soldier serum when she was very young. This would be the same serum that was used with Steve Rogers, giving us Captain America.
Black widows did get a version of a super soldier serum it just want any way near as potent as caps. But it let's you know why she survived that fall. She is better than peak human
What about captain universe?
She also has unlimited stamina.
For Caps shield throw he does some very quick environmental physics to determine the best ricochet trajectory to have the shield return to him. Would love to here Neil talk about that one.
The same with Spiderman's web swinging. The mentioned the same in the comics and the game.
The thing is, for me, that Caps shield is made of Vibranium, known for its ability to absorb impacts (ie Avengers when Thor “puts the hammer down”). How then would it be able to “bounce” back if it should in theory just absorb the hit and simply fall to the ground?
@@6stringvillain they are to different types of metals that come out of stars i guess thors hammers forged in the heart of a dying star and vibranium came from a meteorite
He doesn't actually "do" physics in his head. He's a super human, so he has super intuition. He just intuits with perfect accuracy where he needs to throw the shield to get the result he wants. Do you think a snake is doing physics in its head to strike a target perfectly? Do you do physics in your head to throw a ball at a target?
@@serious.business That’s kind of beyond the point of the statement I was trying to make lol. Cap for sure makes impeccable and instinctive throws, but I was curious as to why it didn’t just fall to the ground as soon as it hit an object.
The problem with cap Shield being made of vibranium is that vibranium is supposed to absorb vibrations. That's why the bullets that Hayley Atwells character fired at him dropped in the original Captain America movie. Because of this, his shield should not bounce off of anything. It should simply hit something and then drop.
In the scene after hulk clicks his fingers, it focuses on the signing of birds and animal life. ( I guess that symbolises that thanos wiped out half animal life as well ).
Sorry if some one beat me to this.
I would like to point out that in Guardians of the Galaxy in the prison escape scene they referenced turning the gravity on and off
13:45 Actually, in the first guardians of the galaxy movie, there is artificial gravity in the Kyln prison and Rocket deactivates it, so we can assume that the same tech is available for the starships.
I want to point out that the fictional element unobtanium was first used in The Core (2003) six years before Avatar (2009).
Though the idea of unobtanium was actually "invented" by professor, lexicographer and editor Woodford Agee Heflin in 1958.
And you’re correct in that movie fact!!!💯💯💯
I was literally about to say that. And i think maybe they just never seen thay movie or just forgot about it. But that movie would be a better reference for their talk because in the movie they talk about thay material more in depth
(Inserts fictional award for fictional element discovery)
@@purvue Totally agree
Thank you, that's amazing! I'm sure the writers knew this, but I sure didn't
A couple nerd things:
1) Banner isn't an MD, he's a physicist
2) that periodic table of fictional elements lists Adamantium as an element when it's an alloy
Just wow 🙌🏾
Banner has multiple doctorates including an MD.
Dork
Seven phds 😂
@@WildlifeWarrior-cr1kkbut you here to watch this video and find this comment.
5:17 well after hulks snaps life back, suddenly there are more nature sounds outside the facility. so it perhaps did affect animal life, but we don't know to which degree.
It was stated several times in the movies that Thanos would destroy half of ALL life in the Universe. The problem was that it was only specified as being random and so it isn't clear whether it's exactly half of each species of life or just half of life in general. This would matter greatly as it could mean that only 20% of Human life was blipped but 95% of all cows were too which would of course leave a huge food shortage for the 5 Billion Humans that remained.
1:11 yup that’s completely the reason we like watching black widow 👀
7:38 because on that impressive list of powers Captain Marvel has, none of them is being everywhere at once.
the cap question got me thinking, could he technically create enough rotational velocity to reverse direction of the force and have it come back to him? kind of like adding enough spin on a ball or hula-hoop for it to spin back to you at a point.
That is essentially boomerangs some of them use general shape of objects and aerodynamics to rotate the boomerang to a point where it comes back to you
Even for a ball, it reverses course only after hitting the ground or some surface, which isn’t very different from what he said.
The Cap shield throwing. It has been explained that his mind (altered with the super serum) calculates the bounce (high level math) so that it comes back to where he is, or where he plans to be.
The new season explains it
When the falcon was learning how to fit the spot for it to bounce back
Loved that last question that chuck threw at the end, "I am Groot?". Amazing show as always, with a lot of effects this time!
It would only be polite to answer the question "I am Groot?" in the same language that it was asked. Therefore the answer would of course be "I am Groot!"
Quantum Tunnelling is not how Captain Marvel's powers operate, though there are many other characters in the Marvel multiverse that do travel this way. She must still fly to wherever she wants to be, though in Binary form she essentially becomes a light wave in flight. But she cannot teleport as does Nightcrawler or Pixie or Wiccan. I want to also note that many characters must access a scientific or magic outlet to teleport such as Doctor Strange. (He uses mystic energy to create a hole in timespace = portal.) Scarlet Witch must conjur specific magic to portal to a different location. Nightcrawler can teleport at will as that is his inate mutant ability.
Unobtanium is from the movie, “The Core”
Taken from an episode we did on Avengers: Endgame. Watch the full podcast! ua-cam.com/video/wwEW08VDSTU/v-deo.html
thanks Neil
So in the movie captain marvel explained why the world needs the avengers when she said it’s a lot of people in the universe but unfortunately they don’t have you guys
Pretty sure Captain Marvel's outfit is the space suit she got from the Cree.
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They addressed the gravity issue in the first guardian movie
Good lord this was entertaining and informative. These guys are a perfect match. I am always astounded at how quickly Chuck comes up with his own analogies for the concepts they are discussing, which show not only that he's perfectly understanding Neil's explanations, but also extrapolating to another concept, AND makes it funny. (see: "Captain America is good at pool".)
This was an awesome discuss!! 🤯 Please do a bigger podcast type version where you deep dive into the Marvel universe... Wud love to hear more!!
You need more than one hero because they can’t be everywhere at once and not all threats are on the same level.
14:35 Captain America also had an electro magnet on his wrist that made his shield come back
Only in age of Ultron
Otherwise he throws in so accurately so it bounces back to him
Its stated that Caps shield absorbs all the energy of things that hit it so bullets should be dropping at his feet (without any sound, just heating it up) and so should his shield if it hits something after being thrown.
Caps shield is TYPICALLY an alloy
It can’t be “boingy”.
Sound is what Vibranium converts kinetic energy into and that has to be on the right part of the shape.
5:45 - Neil & Chuck: “THATS WHAT HE SAID! THATS WHAT THANOS SAID!!!”
Love it 😂😂
if Thanos watched this, he would smile.
After watching this, I feel like writing a physics paper - Curious about Quantum Physics😅👍
Fantastic show! Side note: Unobtanium was also in The Core
Unobtainium was also from "The Core".
I’d argue the gravity generator is implied through showing weightlessness in space till they are pulled in by ravagers or quill landing on the ship in the first one. That’s what I thought at least or remember 🤷 now I got to go back and watch all the guardians again lol
I can do it 🌬️🌎⛅🛡️
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Actually Hawkeye does use science. He creates the unique arrowheads that he uses on his arrows.🤔
In the comics, Thanos kills half of all life for the approval of a woman he was in love with.
It's not a woman it's the embodiment of death
She is death herself
TY someone who read he was in love with death
@@deitrichpettus5452 yes, thats the original storyline of Infinity Saga in comics. Ao glad that they changed a hugely improvised script for the movies.
The Take Away: Women are the Cause of All Destruction and Wars. And this is True according to History in Our Time also.
Really like the way he explains science.. very easy examples for people at any level to grasp at least the concepts.
It’s so refreshing to see Chuck back in the same room as Neil
Please could you do part 2? A continuum from this video.
I love how Neil's description of Einstein is "and Einstein is Einstein" 15:25
Something fascinating that I found out a while back is you can have a pretty sophisticated language with just the words I am and Groot. It all comes down to how it's said and like variations of how they say I, am, and Groot.
appreciate your respect for the Marvel universe standard of basing things in science. one item to note; Black Widow is hinted as having received some of the same super soldier serum as Capt America and Hawkeye has an uncanny gift of accuracy that is suggested to be a mutation of sorts. So they both are supposed to be extra normal.
The Cap shield coming back actually was explained in comics i think, he has extraordinary spacial awareness. Which means he knows how to angle the throw to bounce off of things so that it will always fly back to where he wants it to. The shield being vibranium helps as it looses no energy while flying or bouncing so it can bounce on forever, which, by right iinw, shouldn't be damaging at all towards anything it bounces off of as no energy was transferred. Being hit by a vibranium freesbee should have felt even less than having a cotton ball land on you
If no energy being transferred, then how did those villain get hurt or knock out from the hit?
@@evaniakbar read the part where I mentioned it. I find that strange as well.
This was the most entertaining episode I've ever watched!! I loved all the clips, memes, humor, etc.
Great job and thank you for brightening my evening!! I love intelligent people.
God I love this man! I wish all science teachers were like Niel, then everyone would love science!
Yes😂
The big thing about the thanos snap what the mcu either didn't do or specify was that his snap of half of all life only applied to all sentient life specifically. At least thats how it worked in the comics.
Do an episode on the new Avatar: Way of water, Neil! ASAP👀
the whole vibe of this was so fun and wholesome! loved it!
I miss watching them sitting together side by side 🥹
While I like learning things, I click for Chuck's wit and your banter. Wanted to give him due credit for enhancing the experience; well-chosen sidekick (tho a philosopher might ask who's the sidekick here).
Neil generally refers to Chuck as his co-host rather than a sidekick, which I think is fair because Chuck is just as participatory as Neil, he doesn't necessarily _answer_ as many questions, but he asks great questions from a layman's POV so whatever subject they're discussing is made even more digestible and accessible to those of us without such an extensive background in science.
Why do I need any other Avenger if Dr Strange can time travel? 8:00
'Why does the shield come back to Captain America?' The same way Xena's chakram returns to her hand. It bounces. The chakram is a known weapon of old that really works like shown in Xena the warrior princess.
Ah yes the good old days when people met in person before everything became remote and virtual
Loved it. Do more often this face to face interview/podcast.
The problem is in the MCU not all of the Species are Animal based life forms (for example Groot), so removing half of them must include non animals also. The comic version of Infinity wars is very different ( the story is infinity Gauntlet and a sequel story the infinity war) and includes many more Higher beings in the marvel universe
Sentience is key. Plant life like Groot got snapped because it is a sentient humanoid with a soul
Lower life forms (like grass, SOME insects, and other lower life that is used as resources) are not sentient (mind) nor do they have a soul
As a very, very long time Marvel fan and a scientist by upbringing and education, I enjoyed every second of this. Thanks.
Captain Marvel is the Superman of Marvel
I'm not even a DC fan and that is an insult 😂
I clicked this without question 👁
One must!
You shall not pass Neil talking about superhero movies
Hi Neil & Chuck, good insight on the MCU! I initially become attracted in astronomy and astrophysics after watching The Expanse series. Hopefully you can cover about them too in the future. Cheers
I'd like to see that too. I know Dr. Becky's covered it, but I'd love to hear Neil's ideas on it.
In the comics, Thanos is killing planets in order to woo an anthropomorphic personification of death. But not entirely, because no more life would mean no more death.
For Cap's shield you might have forgotten that Spider-Man says "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all"
The way he answered the very last question was awesome
This was so much fun! tip of the cap to you both 🙂
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We all know why Neil enjoys watching Black Widow 😉(1:28)
I always enjoy your content!! I watched Star Trek yesterday and I could almost hear Dr Tyson commenting on accuracies of silence in space. Keep up the great work guys!! And thank you for the laughter and knowledge!
Neil I'd a big Trekkie he really likes Star Trek TOS.
They reference artificial gravity twice actually. Once in Guardians 1 during the prison escape, and the second is in Captain Marvel when Maria is flying into space and for a few seconds they are all weightless (including Goose that Fury reaches out for)
With the Thanos snap and ecology- wouldn’t that affect plant life because pollinators like bees and butterflies would also be cut in half. And depending on how picky you want to be when defining life, would bacteria be affected? I can’t imagine humans or other mammals would be doing well if half of our gut bacteria disappeared instantly.
I believe the directors said it was only intelligent life
concerning gut bacteria....if half of humans disappeared then half of human gut bacteria disappear with them, therefore 100% of surviving humans gut bacteria would remain intact
This was absolutely enjoyable! We appreciate the superior video editing, large carnivore guest speaker was cool, great humor between you and chuck, and lastly… even though I may need to go back a couple times to understand the gems y’all give out, it never fails y’all always manage to keep my fleeting attention span. So thank you 🙏🏽 😅
Neil should absolutely consult on all things Marvel!
you need the other heroes because Captain Marvel protects other galaxies and their planets too so she's only around v during cosmic level events happening like Thanos plot
He means when she is around why would you need any other Avengers. Discussing her physiology he’s right why would you need the others.
Its just how the guardians of the galaxies use Thor as a last resort. Nobody can beat him during their adventures if they need help they call Thor who then kills the enemy by himself effortlessly.
@@IGetMoney08FreeKo She can still be injured from magic, such as Thanos's power stone.
@@toshtao1 she wasn’t injured tho lol
@@toshtao1 in real science the other avengers are useless
I’m freaking out how much I’m excited about this video! ❤
They did actually make it clear animals were gone too cause the first thing they noticed after hulk snapped was Hawkeye seeing the birds going crazy and flying around like they were greeting each-other
I keep wondering whether Adamantium or Vibranium would make a better sword.
depends on what sword you would want because adamantium can cut through virtually anything but vibranium can't, it is also much more durable than vibranium and is denser whilst vibranium isn't , but vibranium is very much lighter than adamantium and also has less wind resistance so it would be able to be swung faster than a adamantium sword. there are also different types of vibrainium and adamantium as well.
@@Mewtwo349vibranium can also be infused with technology to make for a pretty sweet weapon.
Great video. Thank you.
As an aside, I've always been of the opinion myself, that if there was any avenger who made the others pointless, then it was Iron Man. Because he could just design an assembly line for his suits, and have one of his many AI operate them 24/7.
Captain Marvel, on the other hand, is, while very powerful, still just one person.
I still wonder how Captain Marvel is so powerful after exposure to one Infinity Stone, how does that stand up to being in possession of multiple stones?
@@kwrzesien17 She's a hack simple as that, and she glows
@George Tasie
Yes he would make them pointless but in battle the ai will lose esp with a battle like that of thanks
Let me explain
No matter how advanced an ai is they still have a pattern (reference start trek discovery season 2 final episode) and thanos is an advanced war lord so to say. He has seen all and will find a loophole to exploit
My take on that
Hey Neil! Just thinking.. If the cap's shield is made of vibranium, and that supposely is a material that absorbs all kinetic energy. Shouldn't the shield just stop when it hits something like a piece of foam? I know it would make a boring movie but in my mind it looks strange to see it ricochet of stuff when it is imposed to be an absobing material.
If you extend that hypothesis, Cap cannot hurt anyone with the shield. The moment he hit someone with the shield, the shield will absorb all the energy. If there is no energy transfer, the other person wouldn’t feel a thing.😅
Most people in life never really know who they are. So, that really at the end of day. We should deeply respectful of Groot.
Because, I'm Am Groot.
An issue I have with Infinity War and Endgame is the planet Vormir. Vormir’s proximity to a black would’ve created time dilation (Interstellar, anyone?). In essence, Thano’s time on Vormir would equate to decades on earth.
Great job Neil that was well done! Lol Groot, he does know who he is!
While we don’t know what Thanos was really thinking, reducing the population by half is a direct attack on the Eternals, according to MCU lore. That’s also where most people are going to get lost..
I’ve always wondered where the Hulk’s extra mass comes from when he transforms? 🤔
That is a very interesting thought that never occurred to me! His body would have to perform fission from the molecules in the atmosphere! lol
Maybe his rage is so powerful it's able to pull actual matter from the ground and atmosphere around him, which is then converted to extra mass which makes him larger because.... pseudoscience?
There's a "theory"/propositional that nearly/about 85 (ish)% of apparent mass is energy? One branch theory (rabbit hole) is these are quantum derivative effects? Basically, if I understood the articles (likely not... LOL 😂) it would be like varying planes of existence?
Not my theory (ain't near smart enough for that..😂) but it does raise interesting considerations. I would have looked up the paper to read the "source", but I've found I usually get lost in the equations...(calculus and above...)..
Well more simple explanation would be, if you ever trained, how you get larger !? You get 'larger' when new thicker and more fibers form from breaking them down. And because he was already injected with some kind of experimental super soldier serum, radiation triggered that genetic mutation so he is able to reverse genetical engineering where instead for Cortisol (stress hormone) backwards him in progress it makes him stronger. If we are going for more grounded 'realistic' explanation :)
I have a simpler explanation… he’s on heavy steroids 😅…
1:01 he know good & well he not watching black widow for the martial arts
Animal waste also fertilizes the ground for plants. Bees carry pollens and animals often carry seeds of plants. When animal finishes eating apples, pears and other fruit seeds fall on the ground in more locations.
The issue with the captain American shield is it it’s made out of Vibranium and it’s meant to absorb energy at which point it wouldn’t bounce it would just stop
Imagine Neil deGrasse Tyson is Captain Marvel of science educators. I think he would agree that there are large need for less capable science educators also, like e.g. science teachers. Neil can't do it all. So that is why there are need for lesser Avengers too, someone who shoots arrows etc.
Neil De Grasse Tyson as a Theoretical Physicist not an astrophysicist good job at the Hayden Planetarium mathematics was essential when I did my thesis on the Unified Field Theory especially the Reiman manifold or differential geometry and Ricci tensor and Maxwells Equations and lets not forget Gauss Laws what comics really teach the children of today about thought experiments Prof. M.J. Clark graduated from your high school class of 1968
I think Thanos right and averages villain not heroes
Neil seems like one of the few people on earth who is happy and at peace , if you told him tomorrow was his last day I don't think it would change a thing for him . I don't know the man but his energy is always the same even in stressful situations .
As for the "magic frisbee" I've always assumed its because vibranium releases kinetic energy when it's stored enough in it. Hence the Vibr in Vibranium.